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British edition: Ukrainian Armed Forces lost about 10 thousand troops near Bakhmut due to Zelensky's political ambitions

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British edition: Ukrainian Armed Forces lost about 10 thousand troops near Bakhmut due to Zelensky's political ambitions

The losses of the Ukrainian army near Bakhmut exceeded 10 troops, which was caused by the unwillingness of Ukrainian President Zelensky to surrender this city, writes The Daily Telegraph.


The Armed Forces of Ukraine lost about 10 soldiers near Bakhmut because of Zelensky’s ambitions and calls not to surrender this city. The political decision of Kyiv has cost the lives of many Ukrainian soldiers, and daily losses exceed 200 people killed and wounded. At the same time, the Ukrainian command often abandons its units, which are then broken up by the Russian army.

For Zelensky's political calls not to surrender Bakhmut (Artemovsk), Ukraine is paying with thousands of destroyed fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The number of irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the "Bakhmut meat grinder" clearly exceeds 10 fighters

- writes the British edition.

Kiev admits that the situation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of ​​Bakhmut and Soledar is very deplorable, and Zelensky even recorded a video message on this subject, in which he promised that everything would change soon. Meanwhile, according to our intelligence, on some days the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine literally roll over, reaching up to 500 people killed and wounded. Hospitals and morgues in Bakhmut (Artemovsk) are full, a very large number of the wounded, who are not always taken out of the battlefield, thereby increasing the number of "two hundredths".

In PMC "Wagner", whose assault units play the first violin in this direction, they call everything that happens the "Bakhmut Overture" and promise to play it to the end. Now the fighting is going on on the outskirts of Bakhmut (Artemovsk), but as the "musicians" themselves say, until Experienced is taken, there will be no full-fledged assault on the city. Now the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is forced to transfer part of the reserves to the Soledar area, after ours took Yakovlevka. There are rumors that Zaluzhny wants to surrender both cities in order to save his personnel, but the clown has other plans, he needs sacrifices to show the owners from Washington that the money invested in him is not in vain.
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  1. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 11 December 2022 20: 28
    +16
    The executioner (Zelensky) is out for blood. And it doesn’t matter to him whose blood it is, either his slave conscripts, or his “enemies” - the troops of the Russian Federation and the detachments of the LPR and DPR. For him, the war in the Donbass is his lucrative slaughterhouse.
    1. Myths
      Myths 11 December 2022 20: 33
      +8
      Yes, he didn’t want to hand it over, the curators from above told him no, no, otherwise we’ll chop off the loot.
      1. carpenter
        carpenter 11 December 2022 23: 03
        +4
        Quote from Mitos
        Yes, he didn’t want to hand it over, the curators from above told him no, no, otherwise we’ll chop off the loot.

        A brigade of Dutch "black transplantologists" arrived in the Artemovsk region, where the Ukrainian army is now suffering heavy losses. They are engaged in the removal of the internal organs of the dead and mortally wounded soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        As reported by the People's Militia of Lugansk, the notorious Elizabeth Debru arrived as part of the American PMC "Mozart".
        1. 41 REGION
          41 REGION 12 December 2022 03: 13
          +1
          Quote: carpenter
          notorious Elizabeth Debru arrived as part of the American PMC "Mozart".

          It’s bad that they didn’t lose all the geese of luck
          1. Sith
            Sith 13 December 2022 13: 20
            0
            How much and where the United States lost geese of luck ... it never clearly advertised ... if even everyone is lost here, it’s unlikely that anyone will know)
      2. Peter1First
        Peter1First 12 December 2022 00: 20
        -3
        The curators just won't give orders, so it makes sense to keep Bakhmut! Still, it seems that they are accumulating forces and weapons somewhere for a new offensive, and Bakhmut at this time fetters our most combat-ready units! I think they will trample on Melitopol-Mariupol ...
    2. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 11 December 2022 20: 39
      +6
      He has a team from the Anglo-Saxons not to surrender the city and demonstrate new successes at any cost.
      . The losses of the Ukrainian army near Bakhmut exceeded 10 troops, which was caused by the unwillingness of Ukrainian President Zelensky to surrender this city, writes The Daily Telegraph.

      Arestovich will surely say that The Daily Telegraph was mistaken after Ursula Von Der Lein.
      1. Andy_nsk
        Andy_nsk 11 December 2022 21: 35
        +5
        He has a team from the Anglo-Saxons not to surrender the city and demonstrate new successes at any cost.

        I am not a great strategist, but even I do not understand why it is emphasized everywhere that the retention of Bakhmut is based only on political calculations? If the non-brothers surrender Bakhmut, Soledar, Avdeevka, and then Slavyansk and Liman, will this not mean the collapse of the entire Donbass front? Where can they then catch on, on the right bank of the Dnieper?
        1. Damir Shamaev
          Damir Shamaev 11 December 2022 21: 49
          -13
          Well, ours would have done this, they would have surrendered Soledar and Artemovsk as soon as someone approached them. On the one hand, it’s good for the fighters, otherwise they will be used as meat to keep, but from a political point of view, it’s bad as hell, this affects the spirit of the army as a whole and the population of the country, they will grieve, work poorly, for example. So they decide why we should surrender cities, when they can send lads, maybe they will keep them. Pure chess. If they win, they will be justified, if they lose, they will already run away or kill, there will be no one to answer. They work logically for me. The SBU works well, propaganda works well, as long as the scheme is working.
          1. Babermetis
            Babermetis 11 December 2022 23: 14
            +2
            Quote: Damir Shamaev
            Well, ours would have done this, they would have surrendered Soledar and Artemovsk as soon as someone approached them. On the one hand, it’s good for the fighters, otherwise they will be used as meat to keep, but from a political point of view, it’s bad as hell, this affects the spirit of the army as a whole and the population of the country, they will grieve, work poorly, for example. So they decide why we should surrender cities, when they can send lads, maybe they will keep them. Pure chess. If they win, they will be justified, if they lose, they will already run away or kill, there will be no one to answer. They work logically for me. The SBU works well, propaganda works well, as long as the scheme is working.


            Let me continue your thought. The boys are over. Who will work? Who will think, dream and do about the future?
            Will the SBU stand behind the machines? Roads and houses to build?!?
            1. Pavel_Sh
              Pavel_Sh 12 December 2022 02: 15
              +5
              Well, I suppose the calculation here is extremely simple - during the war, and so the money will be allocated as much as is necessary to maintain life in the country (at a minimum level). After the war - although the grass does not grow, it will be a problem for Ukrainians. The main thing is to prevent breakthroughs and successes of the Russian Federation.
              As for the “finiteness” of the lads as a resource, it is still too early to talk about this at the moment. Mob. the resource in "country 404" is still very far from being exhausted. BUT! The very fact that even Western sources seem to hint at unacceptable losses in battles for ... not the most important object already suggests thoughts - "so what do these sources want to convey to their Western readers."
          2. ch28k38
            ch28k38 11 December 2022 23: 21
            +1
            If we use the old principle "women give birth to new ones", then let's remember Comrade Stalin "Not a step back!" Only the times and conditions are not the same.
        2. alexoff
          alexoff 11 December 2022 21: 53
          0
          All other places. I remember they also talked a lot about Popasnaya, but somehow it didn’t work out
        3. Orange Bigg
          Orange Bigg 11 December 2022 22: 09
          +3
          Bakhmut can undermine the illusion of the victory of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and, as a result, undermine their morale. The fall of Bakhmut will become not only an image, but also a political defeat. new reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
          . Where can they then catch on, on the right bank of the Dnieper?


          Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye at least.
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 11 December 2022 23: 53
            -7
            Quote from Orange Bigg
            not only an image, but also a political defeat

            And the imposing losses in the war are cheats for take? Image is nothing, thirst is everything. Turn on the water and get drunk from the tap
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          2. Andy_nsk
            Andy_nsk 12 December 2022 05: 03
            +2
            Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye at least.

            Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhye are just on the Dnieper, Kharkov is much north of Bakhmut. If it is possible to recapture Bakhmut and the nearby cities, and then Slavyansk and the entire agglomeration, and then introduce reserves (if any), then this will be a real breakthrough of the front, before they can stop on the Dnieper, which, I think, is what the non-brothers are afraid of, and the image and political consequences are already arising from this military defeat in essence. This is exactly what I wanted to highlight in my post.
        4. ism_ek
          ism_ek 11 December 2022 23: 12
          +3
          Bakhmut is in the lowlands. The heights behind Bakhmut are of key importance, and Wagner is now rushing towards them. Fights go for Kleshchevka. If the Ukrainians leave Bakhmut, he will be in a gray zone. Wagner will not go there until he clears the heights beyond Bakhmut from artillery gunners, because. he himself will be under fire from enemy artillery.
        5. isv000
          isv000 12 December 2022 13: 21
          -1
          Quote from Andy_nsk
          If the non-brothers surrender Bakhmut, Soledar, Avdeevka, and then Slavyansk and Liman, will this not mean the collapse of the entire Donbass front? Where can they then catch on, on the right bank of the Dnieper?

          The Donbass front will end with the liberation of Slavyansk. Further ssy ... horses will be driven to a watering place, to the Dnipro!
    3. Aag
      Aag 11 December 2022 20: 43
      +10
      Quote: Evgenijus
      The executioner (Zelensky) is out for blood. And it doesn’t matter to him whose blood it is, either his slave conscripts, or his “enemies” - the troops of the Russian Federation and the detachments of the LPR and DPR. For him, the war in the Donbass is his lucrative slaughterhouse.

      IMHO: He does not "thrive" for anything, - he only "serves a number", - there are "deciders" higher, more abruptly ...
      No matter how it was decided, - Good luck, health to our guys !!
      With others, it seems that soon they will also have to decide ...
    4. carpenter
      carpenter 11 December 2022 22: 32
      +1
      Quote: Evgenijus
      The executioner (Zelensky) is out for blood.

      "Bloody dwarf" can not do without blood and "coke".
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 11 December 2022 23: 53
        +4
        Bloody dwarf" can not do without blood

        Be careful with the word "dwarf"
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 12 December 2022 11: 04
          +1
          Quote: Santa Fe
          Be careful with the word "dwarf"

          "Dwarf" is putting it mildly, or rather "cigarette butt", or "bloody plane tree".
          1. isv000
            isv000 12 December 2022 13: 24
            +1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            "Dwarf" is putting it mildly, or rather "cigarette butt", or "bloody plane tree".

            The plane tree has long had one thought - how to lie down in depth, under the side of Pani Olena, and so that no one would find him, but ...
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 12 December 2022 13: 43
              +1
              Quote: isv000
              to pani Olena under the side, and that no one would find him, but ...

              But Mrs. Olena, has long been under the "hood".
              1. isv000
                isv000 12 December 2022 14: 00
                0
                Quote: tihonmarine
                But Mrs. Olena, has long been under the "hood".

                Yes, the run-in passed, even though it looks like nothing ...
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 12 December 2022 14: 08
                  0
                  Quote: isv000
                  Yes, the run-in passed, even though it looks like nothing ...

                  Although the inside is also rotten.
  2. antivirus
    antivirus 11 December 2022 20: 30
    +4
    Ze is right. Disposal of Bandera is a long process. Time modet and not enough to surrender.
    The Brits will command and be late slots. It’s hard to play against a foolish one, he will be in the next presidential elections the main ones to blame for defeat
    1. Sanya Terek
      Sanya Terek 11 December 2022 20: 58
      +4
      Quote: antivirus
      ... It’s hard to play against a foolish one, he will be the main culprit in the defeats in the next persedent elections.

      The first round of the next Banderstan presidential election is due on March 31, 2024. We cannot afford the luxury of forcing these (unprinted) people to denazification, demilitarization and other goals designated by the Supreme High Command for more than 15 months.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 11 December 2022 21: 11
        +18
        You don't know the people of Banderstan very well. They are still jumping for the GDP will run to vote. Painfully dodgy, deceitful and two-faced ..
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 11 December 2022 22: 16
          +6
          You don't know the people of Banderstan very well. They are still jumping for the GDP will run to vote. Painfully dodgy, deceitful and two-faced ..

          Very well said! They will always support a strong hand. Maidan opened my eyes to many things. They thought to sit on the sidelines that it would not affect them, but that was not the case. Supported the Nazis or remained silent, and that's the result.
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 11 December 2022 22: 27
            -1
            Exhaustively exactly what you said! Definitely a plus from me.
        2. Sanya Terek
          Sanya Terek 11 December 2022 23: 30
          +4
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          You don't know the people of Banderstan very well. They are still jumping for the GDP will run to vote. Painfully dodgy, deceitful and two-faced ..

          Andrei Nikolaevich, they will run to vote for the GDP, for the LIB, for the IVS, even for the LPB, only when our army is standing, at least on the outskirts of Lvov.
        3. isv000
          isv000 12 December 2022 14: 03
          0
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          You don't know the people of Banderstan very well. They are still jumping for the GDP will run to vote. Painfully dodgy, deceitful and two-faced ..

          That is why now it is necessary to extinguish the infrastructure purposefully, squeezing out the "foam" to the West - let it sip in full measure what they have welded ...
      2. Plate
        Plate 11 December 2022 21: 48
        0
        Quote: Sanya Tersky
        We cannot afford the luxury of forcing these (unprinted) people to denazification, demilitarization and other goals designated by the Supreme High Command for more than 15 months.

        We've been doing this for over 9 months now. The consequences for the economy, apart from a deficit budget (which, in fact, is quite an ordinary phenomenon, and, I believe, they did not save money in vain), are still unnoticed. Although this is subjective, of course.
        PS Withdrawing 300 people from the economy is, of course, not good. But, again, I did not notice any serious consequences for the economy as a whole. I must say that from the stores I visit most often the grocery store.
        1. Denis812
          Denis812 12 December 2022 11: 56
          0
          On the one hand, for a country of 150 million, 300 thousand is not so much.
          On the other hand, it would be better if they called for a million, but they would do it before the start of the NWO, so that there would not be such a strange distortion of resources.
        2. Barabashka
          Barabashka 12 December 2022 14: 20
          +1
          Count up to a million young people who left
          1. Plate
            Plate 12 December 2022 14: 56
            0
            Well yes. As well as the damage of sanctions, by the way. But I wrote about the damage specifically from the conduct of the CBO.
    2. isv000
      isv000 12 December 2022 13: 28
      +1
      Quote: antivirus
      Disposal of Bandera is a long process. Time modet and not enough to surrender.

      It's time to help Pan Ataman - finally turn off the light, communications and sheep pumping. Trains abroad - green light, from there - derailed ...
  3. Pharmacist
    Pharmacist 11 December 2022 20: 31
    +18
    It's good that our guys are engaged in Bakhmut and Soledar without rush work, the cities will still be ours. And the big losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are more important than their immediate capture. No matter what anyone says, but the human resources of the ukroreich are not endless, a rotten tree will collapse sooner or later.
  4. Pulkovo1942
    Pulkovo1942 11 December 2022 20: 34
    +6
    because of Zelensky's ambitions and calls not to surrender this city

    Well, judging by the information campaign, their population is slowly being prepared for the surrender of Artyomovsk under the auspices of saving the lives of the Vushniks. Today, a railway bridge was blown up on the northern outskirts of the city.
    1. Damir Shamaev
      Damir Shamaev 11 December 2022 21: 34
      -2
      And how did you know about the bridge, those TV channels that I watch reported this 20 minutes ago?
      1. isv000
        isv000 12 December 2022 13: 31
        0
        Quote: Damir Shamaev
        And how did you know about the bridge, those TV channels that I watch reported this 20 minutes ago?

        So questions are put in the SBU ... You need to be careful ...
  5. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 11 December 2022 20: 41
    +7
    Well, that's just "meat" Ukroreich does not regret at all. With this Makar, they can keep Bakhmut for another year, business. Our command needs to come up with something, except for a stupid frontal attack on the fortified area. Our guys need to be protected - for example, the long-displayed AVBPM would have come in here.
  6. Bingo
    Bingo 11 December 2022 20: 46
    +3
    Well, it’s clear, they just multiply dill by zero in suitable conditions for this. Just a competent demilitarization
  7. Nikolay310
    Nikolay310 11 December 2022 20: 52
    +15
    maybe that’s enough about the clown ... otherwise you’ll have to remind the character who for 8 years believed that the Minsk agreements “dear European partners” would try to fulfill, and then it turned out that Frau Merkel was a liar ... well, who is the clown here ???

    clowns for 8 years strengthened the army as best they could, while non-clowns lived in the world of pink ponies

    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 11 December 2022 21: 07
      +6
      I don’t want to,, express an expert opinion from the couch, But if our army goes to the PMR, it will be clear that Merkel is a loshka ...
      1. Zakirov Damir
        Zakirov Damir 11 December 2022 21: 48
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        I don’t want to,, express an expert opinion from the couch, but if our army goes to the PMR, it will be nice that Merkel is a loshka ...

        8 years of preparation, almost reached the finish line - the return of the LDNR and the Crimea - and such a bummer!
        All the "guarantors" have a fart - Merkel, Steinmeier, Macron! All the "guarantors" have already hissed with anger about this!
        1. carpenter
          carpenter 11 December 2022 22: 38
          +2
          Quote: Damir Zakirov
          All the "guarantors" have a fart - Merkel, Steinmeier, Macron! All the "guarantors" have already hissed with anger about this!

          Therefore, they piss with boiling water from anger.
      2. isv000
        isv000 12 December 2022 13: 36
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        I don’t want to,, express an expert opinion from the couch, But if our army goes to the PMR, it will be clear that Merkel is a loshka ...

        Our army will definitely come out to the PMR and Iasi-Chisinau again ...
    2. agoran
      agoran 11 December 2022 21: 11
      -4
      Well, actually, a clown runs around the world with outstretched hand: who will give what.
      And for 8 years, the Russian army has changed. Your military-industrial complex, Poseidon, hypersound.
      So, do not you gundet.
      1. Zakirov Damir
        Zakirov Damir 12 December 2022 00: 34
        -2
        Quote: agoran
        Well, actually, a clown runs around the world with outstretched hand: who will give what.

        They may not file - they may "insert"! An outstretched hand to the West doesn't mean you don't have to cover your ass.
  8. agoran
    agoran 11 December 2022 20: 56
    -1
    The topic of grinding the Sumerians is working. We have a short shoulder in terms of logistics, but the Sumerians really fell for it. The loss of Artemovsk is not the loss of 10 thousand l / s. As in the old Odessa joke: Sarah, 10 thousand is, but 10 thousand
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 11 December 2022 23: 51
      +4
      The topic of grinding the Sumerians is working. We have a short shoulder in terms of logistics, but the Sumerians really fell for it. The loss of Artemovsk is not the loss of 10 thousand l / s. As in the old Odessa joke: Sarah, 10 thousand is, but 10 thousand

      What agoran wanted to say is not clear

      Looks like he's completely out of his mind
  9. RED_ICE
    RED_ICE 11 December 2022 20: 57
    -2
    Prigozhin would have made an excellent Minister of Defense!
    1. isv000
      isv000 12 December 2022 13: 38
      -1
      Quote: RED_ICE
      Prigozhin would have made an excellent Minister of Defense!

      Why not? But is it necessary - the person is in his place, things are getting along well ...
  10. Zolotse
    Zolotse 11 December 2022 20: 57
    +3
    The entire existence of the power of Ze rests on the military agenda, everything can be written off under this mute, and the Ukrainians have long been decommissioned material for the OP. It is possible that he does not consider Ukrainians to be his people, he will lead to the slaughter to the last! It's hard to say what can stop him. The task of our command is to protect everyone !!!!
  11. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 11 December 2022 21: 03
    +7
    For whom they voted, for that they are obliged to die. Of course, it was much more comfortable for them to ride on the Maidan. No pity. I only feel sorry for my soldiers.
  12. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 11 December 2022 21: 17
    +7
    I think they have more losses.
    It will be a disaster if this continues. Zelensky doesn’t give a damn about the Ukrainians; he clearly has no intention of living in Ukraine.
    Only Trotsky found an ice ax in Mexico.
    1. isv000
      isv000 12 December 2022 13: 48
      +1
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      I think they have more losses.
      It will be a disaster if this continues.

      The snow will come down - a lot of things will come out ...
      1. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 12 December 2022 14: 08
        0
        Quote: isv000
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        I think they have more losses.
        It will be a disaster if this continues.

        The snow will come down - a lot of things will come out ...

        Exactly, ... "snowdrops".
  13. Aag
    Aag 11 December 2022 21: 19
    +4
    Hmmm ... Sorry, without begging for the merits of "Wagner" ... (judging by the news reports, they almost play the first violin!) ...
    But!!! And MO? Excuse me: it turns out - it’s worth driving a part of the population into the category of “prisoners”, then, conditionally “pardon” ahead of schedule (by the way, on the basis of what laws, acts?) .... Only so that some part of fellow citizens continue to “hang out ", did not fall out of the usual pace of life, did not tense up? (And, little by little, would continue to strain the rest of fellow citizens-workers who have not yet fallen under mobilization?).
    Once again, I apologize for, perhaps, some confusion of my post, - simply: in the last couple of days I had a chance to observe the life of certain segments of the population of the city (Irkutsk).
    Starting with the "security" service of the railway. station (not a single policeman, Russian guard! The most "vigilant" are grannies of retirement age, and, the peasants, it seems, are former security officers, but already in different conditions ... like me ... And, - the young people, inflated, confident in impunity .).
    ... The second part of the "Marleson Ballet" is managers and bank employees in a certain car dealership of the mentioned city ...
    BREAKERS!!
    Well true!! I can’t imagine any Production Enterprise (private, even state-owned ...) for such a crowd of people to “steam” there! (about ten sellers, and, one and a half times more bank employees ... And, these are only those in plain sight! ... The main tricks began to come out in detail ...).
    From observations (I didn’t buy anything, I didn’t intend to, I just wanted to help ... I actively counteracted in the end ...)))): it seems that no one bought anything there that day!
    But such a horde, with such rings, watches, etc., cannot exist for a penny!!
    And they tell us about the military-industrial complex in four shifts ...
    I have no doubt - someone is working hard! (Yeah! one of these fell for advertising - he decided to change his VAZ-21063 of the 85th production ......).
    Sadly ....
    Sad and TERRIBLE for the future of our children. hi
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 11 December 2022 22: 21
      +1
      A.A.G, I agree with you. Regarding the breeding from car dealerships and other outlets, I can share my personal experience: I somehow went into the salon of a German automaker. Well, just look. We don’t live in poverty with my family, but I personally don’t have money to buy a good new car, it’s a pity. All my cars have been pobeg. My wife dresses me well and when he saw me, one such nimble manager ran up and let's bow and talk about my “wonderful choice”) I only had enough for a minute of his verbal diarrhea. (I can’t stand obsession in people) I told him very politely “you couldn would you shut up?" And he seemed to evaporate. I always do this. It helps a lot. You can calmly study and think everything yourself. And if there are questions, also politely turn to managers for advice.)
    2. Al manah
      Al manah 11 December 2022 22: 48
      -1
      So it is necessary to determine our children in divorce.
  14. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 11 December 2022 21: 41
    0
    And in the statements of Arestovich, the opposite is true
  15. Architect
    Architect 11 December 2022 21: 42
    -7
    !0 000 are killed and wounded.
    And it is not clear what ratio can be 500 killed and 9500 wounded.
    The wounded can get back into line.
    1. alexoff
      alexoff 11 December 2022 21: 55
      +4
      There are 9000 scratched heels and hoarse from drinking the anthem of Ukraine, they are such irretrievable losses
  16. Prisoner
    Prisoner 11 December 2022 21: 48
    +1
    The British began to translate arrows. They say it's not our fault that Ze is so stupid. We have no less strategists than English scientists, only they don’t listen to Bandera’s “politicians” of our smart advice.
    1. Yang yangov
      Yang yangov 11 December 2022 23: 08
      +2
      Well, note that they are doing it right. Ze fucked up, and we are not to blame)
      1. fetus
        fetus 11 December 2022 23: 11
        +1
        About how many wonderful discoveries we have.
        Zelebobkin is preparing it..
  17. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 11 December 2022 21: 49
    -1
    Maybe the zelibobik has such a task - to dispose of as many schenevmerliks ​​as possible and free up territory for psheks and other gay Europeans? And we scold him.
  18. alexoff
    alexoff 11 December 2022 21: 54
    0
    Arestovich will say that these are total losses, 15 people died, a hundred were injured, and the rest caught a cold or went home on a visit
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 11 December 2022 23: 05
      +2
      The Ukrainians admit that the losses near Bakhmut are large,
      but they claim that the Russians attacking the firing points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
      lose even more from their mortar and machine gun fire.
      1. alexoff
        alexoff 11 December 2022 23: 40
        0
        Of course, 8 times more, because the firing points are not shelled by anything, and it is always more profitable to defend yourself, the Yassko-Kishinev operation and the Brusilov breakthrough will confirm
      2. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 11 December 2022 23: 59
        0
        but they claim that the Russians attacking the firing points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
        lose even more from their mortar and machine gun fire.

        Never mind, it's your turn to shed the chosen blood
        fellow
  19. Barberry25
    Barberry25 11 December 2022 21: 57
    0
    the most important feature is that now we are advancing and the enemy is suffering very painful losses
  20. guest
    guest 11 December 2022 22: 13
    +1
    Ukrainian Armed Forces lost about 10 servicemen near Bakhmut due to Zelensky's political ambitions

    I hope they lose at least as much there.
  21. Bingo
    Bingo 11 December 2022 22: 16
    +8
    European integration on the sly

    Well, it was in the 14th year
  22. Kurva18
    Kurva18 11 December 2022 22: 16
    +4
    We understand that Ze is disgusting, but its inhabitants still adore it.
  23. Nord11
    Nord11 11 December 2022 22: 26
    0
    Everything is going according to plans. The future agricultural power does not need an excess population, and Europe needs extra mouths. So the disposal is on schedule.
    1. isv000
      isv000 12 December 2022 13: 57
      0
      Quote: Nord11
      Everything is going according to plans. The future agricultural power does not need an excess population, and Europe needs extra mouths. So the disposal is on schedule.

      What Europe are you talking about here? Blacks and Arabs will not plow ... And what kind of superpower ?! So you will agree before the victory of the country ...
  24. Alexy
    Alexy 11 December 2022 22: 33
    +3
    Hmm, how many of ours died there? Our media love American eulogies. How long do we take Bakhmut in the forehead? Avdiivka was never taken, but every day there are reports of shelling of Donetsk from there. Negotiator in everything.
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  26. Boris Ivanov
    Boris Ivanov 11 December 2022 23: 02
    +2
    Zelensky lost touch with the reality of the passing ..
  27. 1razvgod
    1razvgod 11 December 2022 23: 09
    -1
    They said that zaluzhny and before that he wanted to hand over a lot of things, and as a result, Kharkov, Kherson ... It's high time to stop these hats, then turning into hat-eating
    1. agoran
      agoran 11 December 2022 23: 16
      0
      I don’t know who Zaluzhny is, and I don’t care. But my friends from Kirovograd say that they were fools and did not leave like you.
  28. Father of papa carlo
    Father of papa carlo 11 December 2022 23: 17
    0
    good news hi st ! good news hi st ! good news hi st !
  29. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 12 December 2022 00: 18
    +2
    Armed Forces of Ukraine lost about 10 thousand soldiers near Bakhmut

    So what? They have a mobile reserve of several million (not counting foreign mercenaries). 10 thousand there, 10 thousand here. Within the error of calculating mobresource.
    1. terms
      terms 12 December 2022 01: 27
      +3
      You guys are confusing reality. You named the physical reserve. Wars are usually not fought until the physical exhaustion of all human reserves. Even in WWII, how many died? About 20, it seems, millions, despite the record brutality of the war - it was less than 10% of the population of the USSR. So with the current population of Ukraine in the region of 20 million people, it is enough to lose 5 percent for the population to notice strongly that a bunch of friends and relatives did not start and it seems they will not return, and they thought about a lot and began to either demolish Zelya or greatly speed up the dumping of countries from such a moron at the helm.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 12 December 2022 03: 08
        +2
        Even in WWII, how many died? About 20, it seems, millions,
        when it seems that one should be baptized ... 12.5 million died directly in the battles, including prisoners of the USSR Armed Forces /, the rest are civilians ... now let's move on to the population of the outside ... the last census of the population of the outside was during the Yanyk in 2008 ... the indicator was 37 million .... after the 14th year, minus the Crimea-2 million, minus the DPR 4 million /, minus the LPR 4 million, .. 27 million remained .. but about 5 million of the able-bodied population emigrated to the Russian Federation, plus about 10 million for west .... now count how much is left ... so take a calculator if
      2. laws70
        laws70 12 December 2022 06: 39
        0
        it’s enough to lose 5 percent so that the population strongly notices that a bunch of friends and relatives didn’t start and it doesn’t seem like they will return, and they thought about a lot and began to either demolish Zelya or greatly speed up dumping them out of the country

        They now decorate the main cemetery festively, and not go to the Maidan.
  30. terms
    terms 12 December 2022 01: 20
    +1
    So why should he bathe - not at his own expense a banquet, pff ...
  31. Hindu
    Hindu 12 December 2022 06: 23
    0
    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
    I don’t want to,, express an expert opinion from the couch, But if our army goes to the PMR, it will be clear that Merkel is a loshka ...


    As the Spartans answered: "if."
  32. Zulugami
    Zulugami 12 December 2022 07: 45
    0
    One thing I wonder is why the Western media write about this freely, thus handing over Zeliboba himself ?!
  33. pleschakovai
    pleschakovai 12 December 2022 09: 48
    -1
    Butchery, though! What do you, Slavs, tolerate this drug addict, how long??? Western Outskirts, this is not all of Ukraine! My friends, wake up, wake up, what are they doing to you??? Mothers, fathers, don't you see anything??? Forgive me Lord!!!
  34. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 12 December 2022 10: 24
    +1
    Quote from termos
    You guys are confusing reality. You named the physical reserve. Wars are usually not fought until the physical exhaustion of all human reserves.

    I don't confuse anything. In Germany, in 1944, a Volksturm was formed from men aged 16-60 who were not subject to conscription, 4 million heads. In 1945, old people without age restrictions and the Hitler Youth from the age of 12 rowed to the front. All this is already outside the reserve.
    Quote from termos

    so that the population will strongly notice that a bunch of friends and relatives did not start and it seems they will not return, and think about many things

    Well, the population in Germany noticed that there are already not enough many, and children and the elderly are already rowing to the front. And what, dared Hitler? As Dostoevsky said, "A scoundrel gets used to everything."
  35. Sergei N 58912062
    Sergei N 58912062 17 December 2022 19: 48
    0
    That's where they go! Bandera has been waiting for them there for a long time.