Have Angela Merkel's revelations about Russia and the Minsk agreements become revelations for someone?

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Have Angela Merkel's revelations about Russia and the Minsk agreements become revelations for someone?

Angela Merkel's revelations about Russia and the Minsk agreements became revelations, perhaps, exclusively for those who really continued to live in rose-colored glasses, through which the collective West is a “dear partner”, and all European and North American politicians are honest and respectable ladies and gentlemen.

Behind the words of the ex-Chancellor of Germany that the Minsk agreements were composed and signed by the Western side only in order to give Ukraine the opportunity to gain time and gain strength, her other words turned out to be less noticed. And they should pay at least no less attention. These are Merkel's words that she was worried about such a moment as the actual absence of the end of the Cold War. According to Merkel, in the 1990s, the West did not finish what it had begun earlier, "without pacifying Russia."



Merkel:

In principle, Russia has never been pacified.

Did the rose-colored glasses of "our" Westerners fly off about their idol - the Western system of values ​​- after such words of the former chancellor? After all, Merkel actually fit all these values ​​in one sentence, which says that the goal of the West is the complete, total "pacification" of Russia - in fact, the subordination of Russia to itself.

But Merkel is still disingenuous. After all, since the end of the 80s, the West has managed to form a whole layer (and a very fat one at that) of Russian elites and institutions under its control. And until now, representatives of this layer are busy everyday defending Western "values" and interests, even in today's conditions. The most dangerous thing is that some of the elites of individuals are still busy shaping the meanings, public opinion, enter into elite circles and are free to give advice to top management.

Mikhail Leontiev speaks about Merkel's statements in the Odnako program:

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    1. +19
      11 December 2022 19: 15
      Merkel just made it clear to the whole world that Russia was right by starting a Special Military Operation!
      Thank you Aunt Merkel! drinks
      1. +12
        11 December 2022 19: 55
        Quite right. The agreement was signed, Russia is the guarantor of fulfillment, Ukraine does not fulfill its obligations, Russia, as a guarantor, forces Ukraine to fulfill it. Here is SVO. What questions, all honestly and nobly!
        1. +10
          11 December 2022 20: 35
          Have Angela Merkel's revelations about Russia and the Minsk agreements become revelations for someone?
          for someone it may have become, for me personally, from the first day, deception was felt. the chief curator covered himself with French and Germans who happily promised anything.
          1. +2
            12 December 2022 02: 51
            But I just can’t understand why Merkel suddenly opened up so openly?
            She may have been a Russophobic bitch, but she has always been a SMART bitch.
            It seems that she realized that things are really moving towards the Last War, where only radioactive ashes will remain from Germany. And she hoped that the truth would save the Germans from entering the war.
            Well, either the doctors told her about inoperable cancer, and so she decided to confess ...
            1. +1
              13 December 2022 18: 02
              Have Angela Merkel's revelations about Russia and the Minsk agreements become revelations for someone?

              For me, definitely not!
              Germany and France acted in one team, driven by Washington!
              I talked about it all the time.
            2. 0
              13 December 2022 18: 14
              I just can’t understand why Merkel suddenly became so open

              She was accused of being almost an agent of the GDP, she admitted that it was a military trick spreading misinformation.
            3. 0
              14 December 2022 13: 02
              Still, she was not a rabid Russophobe. But with her speech, she recognized the legality of the NWO. She played into the hands of Russia and knocked out the trump cards from the paws of the piddos and the piddosniks with liberoids.
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        1. 0
          11 December 2022 21: 42
          Nobody believed them. It's just that we were much more dependent on them then. Neither the financial nor food security of Russia was ensured. Yes, and our military-industrial complex has not scratched the navel for these eight years. This is somewhat reminiscent of 1939.
          1. +7
            11 December 2022 23: 07
            I strongly doubt that in 2014 the Armed Forces of Ukraine could shell Russia, sink the Moskva cruiser and force our troops to retreat. Now the Armed Forces of Ukraine in terms of personal uniforms are even better equipped than the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, so they waited.
            1. 0
              12 December 2022 06: 55
              The West killed the USSR without any uniforms. We just bought bread for petrodollars. The price of oil dropped and we were left without bread. They would do the same to us in 2014. They would also paralyze the entire financial system. And we also had too few modern weapons. It was the same in 1939. They say that it was not necessary, they say, to conclude a pact with the Germans in 1939, they would have been crushed in no time. With what? With T-26, BT-7, SB and I-16? Against Pz-III, Pz-IV, Bf-109, He-111? After all, there was still neither the T-34, nor the KV, nor the BM-13, nor the PPSh, nor the Il-2, nor the Yak-1, nor the LaGG-3 (the future La-5), nor much of what will be called later Weapon of Victory. In 2014, the situation was similar. The army has just begun to be re-equipped with modern weapons, including the KR and hypersonic.
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              2. 0
                13 December 2022 18: 31
                The West killed the USSR without any uniforms

                It was the lie of the USSR that killed the nomenklatura who wanted to seize the people's property for themselves.
                We just bought bread for petrodollars. The price of oil dropped and we were left without bread.

                And where did bread go in the USSR if bread was grown in fields to the horizon?
                And now they’ve just got off the oil needle?
                1939. They say they didn’t need to conclude a pact with the Germans in 1939, they would have ground them in no time. With what?

                In your opinion, it was better to let your airfields with hundreds of aircraft and several divisions be destroyed than to hit the Germans, in your opinion is it better to let the enemy capture a quarter of the country? Strange logic.
                The situation was the same in 2014

                You need to eat more fish, otherwise there is not enough phosphorus, in the year 14 in the Criminal Code there was a Maidan that broke state administration, the most combat-ready fell into the boilers, the Criminal Code at 14 would have fallen like a ripe fruit.

                The army has just begun to re-equip itself with modern weapons,

                What kind of Russian Federation is this that the army for 30 years is so weak that it will only be re-equipped?
                Or are you writing from a distant galaxy?
          2. +3
            12 December 2022 00: 55
            Quote: Pavel73
            Nobody believed them. It's just that we were much more dependent on them then. Neither the financial nor food security of Russia was ensured. Yes, and our military-industrial complex has not scratched the navel for these eight years. This is somewhat reminiscent of 1939.

            In 2014, the ukrovermacht was of the 1939 model, not 1941. It was possible to strangle in two slams!

            It’s just that Vova Putin at that time was flying with geese, hugging tigers, and he didn’t need Donbass as part of Russia for nothing! Why is there a region in Russia where people held weapons in their hands? They, if they go against the oligarchs, as part of the Russian Federation, they can stir up the whole of Russia! We needed people who were "obedient" and "not people with initiative."

            Donbass for the Kremlin was a suitcase without a handle! It’s hard to carry, but it’s dangerous to leave - the people of the Russian Federation would not understand! If Kyiv had not hinted about nuclear weapons and a direct threat to the Kremlin, things would still be there!
      3. +2
        11 December 2022 22: 36
        Aunt Merkel had a different thought - she had to justify herself for cooperation with Russia. Here it is in hindsight and gets out.
      4. 0
        13 December 2022 13: 37
        Merkel just made it clear to the whole world that no one was going to negotiate with Russia even then, and even more so now. And it was this message that caused such confusion in our upper circles.
      5. 0
        13 December 2022 18: 09
        Russia turned out to be right by launching a Special Military Operation!

        The fact that it’s right is for sure, but starting so late will it be possible to finish the NWO and with what sacrifices and how many cities will be erased? And all because of the fact that the head of 140 million has no right to be dupes.
    2. +5
      11 December 2022 19: 21
      Have Angela Merkel's revelations about Russia and the Minsk agreements become revelations for someone?

      I think that A. Merkel's revelations did not become news to anyone, it's just that some people tried rose-colored glasses not only on themselves.
    3. +2
      11 December 2022 19: 22
      About pink pants: will we pull the fanatics out of Poland or Canada?
      Or will we also declare notes and "treble" clefs, like 1135 Chinese warnings?
    4. +11
      11 December 2022 19: 26
      Leontiev himself "Flesh from flesh, blood from blood" of those "democrats" who ruined the USSR, convinced everyone that we are "scoops". It was about such "Leontievs" that they said "fluctuated along with the party line"
    5. +5
      11 December 2022 19: 28
      Merkel voiced only what many guessed and now strengthened in the belief that the West is completely deceitful and believe it does not respect itself.
      1. +5
        11 December 2022 19: 43
        Merkel voiced only what many guessed and now strengthened in the belief that the West is completely deceitful and believe it does not respect itself.
        So it was clear from the very beginning, a couple of months after they were adopted. Accepting the Minsk agreements and not demanding their implementation is nonsense. And Russian propaganda presented them as the greatest breakthrough in diplomacy! CBO - the greatest achievement! Well, at least they would say - we were deceived, because we are glad to be deceived! And that would be clearer and more logical.
    6. 0
      11 December 2022 19: 31
      Again, looking for the culprit.
      Russia is being destroyed not by the West, but by the non-people's choice of the President of the Russian Federation
      1. +4
        11 December 2022 22: 17
        Quote: ximkim
        Russia is not destroyed by the West

        Oh, this white and fluffy West... "The legend is fresh, but hard to believe." More precisely, I don't believe it at all.
    7. +2
      11 December 2022 19: 32
      The most dangerous thing is that some of the elites of individuals are still busy shaping the meanings, public opinion, enter into elite circles and are free to give advice to top management.
      And who can forbid them, form meanings, public opinion? Close the door to elite circles? And especially to give advice to senior management?
    8. +1
      11 December 2022 19: 35
      Who would doubt it. The confrontation of the Rus with the Germanic group of tribes, this also includes the Gauls with the Angles, Britons and Scots, has been going on for about 5 thousand years. Nothing new here, Western Europeans representing the R1b haplogroup are in constant antagonism with the Slavs with their dominant R1a haplogroup. The Westerners need territories, they will put pressure on us, they can only be stopped by economic and military defeat. There is no other way, they are a predatory subspecies of humanity. The predator is stopped only by a strong blow to the teeth. We will have to fight with them again.
      1. +2
        11 December 2022 21: 34
        Wow, 5k. some Russians lived years ago? Are you seriously?
        1. +1
          12 December 2022 01: 13
          Wow, 5k. some Russians lived years ago? Are you seriously?

          Slavic tribes lived on the Central Russian upland, in eastern and southern Europe. The author wants to call them Russians, let him call them. This fact cannot be denied or confirmed.
        2. 0
          12 December 2022 07: 29
          Read books on this subject by the same Petukhov. There were no Slavs then, but there were tribes that modern authors call Boreal Rus. What they called themselves, we do not know. In the same way, it is not known how the same Neanderthals, Denisovans and other archanthropes identified themselves. It is clear that history, as a discipline, does not belong to your interests.
    9. +1
      11 December 2022 19: 35
      Merkel is now being scolded to the fullest because she got Germany hooked on Russian gas and contributed in every possible way to the development of economic relations with Russia, including the supply of Siemens turbines to the Crimea, so now it’s natural for her to say now that she went all the time with a fig in her pocket .
      But in fact, the Minsk agreements gave exactly the same odds to Russia and the LDNR, who prevented serious preparations.
      1. +6
        11 December 2022 19: 59
        What a head start the Minsk agreements gave to the residents of the LPR and DPR. They were simply abandoned and forgotten for 8 years, and Russia had no time for them, the separatists in a word. Putin admitted that he saw these unrecognized republics as part of Ukraine with a certain autonomy, that's the whole story .I'm just surprised at the stamina of the spirit of these guys, how they were able to hold out for 8 years. In a word, heroes.
        1. +5
          11 December 2022 20: 03
          They were simply abandoned and forgotten for 8 years, and Russia was not up to them, separatists in a word.


          Well, this is a question for Putin where he has been all these eight years. I have an opinion about the NWO that Putin needed it as a means of gaining political points, but he simply underestimated the capabilities of Ukraine and the West and overestimated his own capabilities.
          1. +5
            11 December 2022 20: 36
            Leontiev says - "We were fools" ... Why were they? Judging by the words of the disappointed President Merkel, who said "We are ready for further negotiations .." - the status quo remains!
        2. +1
          11 December 2022 21: 40
          Quote from: odisey3000
          What a head start the Minsk agreements gave the residents of the LPR and DPR. They were simply abandoned and forgotten for 8 years, and Russia had no time for them, separatists in a word. Putin admitted that he saw these unrecognized republics as part of Ukraine with a certain autonomy, that's the whole story .

          Or maybe even easier. It's no secret that initially in Donetsk they talked about socialist people's republic. Because there were so many volunteers from all sides. Just now capitalist Russia, such an example was not needed. Therefore, they went to an agreement with the West under a "beautiful" name.
    10. +4
      11 December 2022 19: 35
      It's just ridiculous. Look, it was clear to all sane people, no deductive methods were needed to understand this. And even if for the upper (his) it was inaccessible in the presence of a thuja huch of all sorts of special and not very services, super-analytical departments, etc. etc. ... Well, I don't know then. Then drive everyone with pissing rags to where Makar did not drive calves! It's not a crime, it's a mistake! So, it seems, a well-known expression sounds. There are no words, only emotions.
    11. +3
      11 December 2022 19: 36
      Have Angela Merkel's revelations about Russia and the Minsk agreements become revelations for someone?

      How for whom? for the guarantor. He himself said in an interview. bully
      1. +1
        12 December 2022 22: 41
        +100500 good "" ""
    12. Eug
      +3
      11 December 2022 19: 40
      As far as I remember, in 2014 the President of Austria flew to Moscow, after his visit Putin became very sad and the situation on the annexation of some regions of Ukraine to Russia abruptly "curled up". Further - some attempts at agreements, very helpless on the part of Russia.
      1. +6
        11 December 2022 19: 56
        The President of Switzerland came. We are now waiting for the revelations of the Swiss, I wonder what the "guards" will sing in this case, even I feel sorry for the Zaputins
    13. +2
      11 December 2022 19: 48
      It would be funny if it were not so sad. Yanukovych signed an agreement with Germany, France, Poland, which the West did not give a damn about the next day. Now Merkel has confessed. then, does anyone, whatever, ever, think when agreements are made with the "geltmen"?
    14. 0
      11 December 2022 19: 54
      Have Angela Merkel's revelations about Russia and the Minsk agreements become revelations for someone?
      . Many copies have been broken around the Minsk agreements ... you can still break a little, but what's the point???
    15. +5
      11 December 2022 19: 58
      The motto of "zeroed" should be: "Yes, it's not difficult to deceive me, I myself am glad to be deceived!" It was clear right away, in 2014. Hmm, we really miss Stalin now.
    16. +5
      11 December 2022 20: 01
      As far as I understand, the problem is somewhat more serious - any signed agreements cease to work in general. That is, diplomacy is everything... In principle, the UN can already be dissolved.
      1. +3
        11 December 2022 22: 23
        Quote from Reindeer
        As far as I understand, the problem is somewhat more serious - any signed agreements cease to work at all

        Quite right. Any agreement with the West (through the efforts of the West) is now cheaper than the paper on which it is printed. As well as any tête-à-tête talks may now be available to journalists on the same day. And this is also becoming commonplace. Those. Western powers turn world politics into a clownery. And it can't end well.
        1. 0
          11 December 2022 23: 54
          By the way, I’m thinking about how this can affect international law :) The conclusions are also disappointing -_-
    17. +3
      11 December 2022 20: 06
      Something recently, gentlemen, official propagandists have been heaping on topvar. That besogon appeared now Leontiev.
      These gentlemen will praise any garbage just to please the authorities.
      Let's do without them to understand who is who
    18. +7
      11 December 2022 20: 08
      It is only in the Kremlin that they believe the fairy tales of their "partners" and fulfill their demands like circus monkeys. In general, it is not clear what is going on in their heads, every step they take is a Spanish shame. And only thanks to the heroism of our guys, Ukrainians are not yet in Moscow.
    19. +1
      11 December 2022 20: 08
      Quote: 2112vda
      Who would doubt it. The confrontation of the Rus with the Germanic group of tribes, this also includes the Gauls with the Angles, Britons and Scots, has been going on for about 5 thousand years.

      Stop dragging this kind of bullshit in here. If only because 5.000 years ago there were no Ruses exactly like the Britons with the Scots
    20. +1
      11 December 2022 20: 09
      It is strange to think that the real causes are officially declared and the real consequences are covered.

      There is a kind of shadow game, which is lazily covered from above by some kind of officialdom.
    21. +2
      11 December 2022 20: 17
      But what about our "grandmaster" Putin - he was deceived for 8 years, but he did not understand?! Y-yes, under Stalin there was no such garbage!
    22. +4
      11 December 2022 20: 24
      Again, some unnamed "strata of the political elite controlled by the West." Who appointed these layers for 22 years, or have they been sitting like that since the Yeltsin era? So why haven't they been removed yet? And if they are "under the control of the West," then what are the Russian special services doing? The fact that the Western guarantors were not going to fulfill the "Minsk agreements" to our "guarantor" should have become obvious from the moment Yanukovych was expelled. If not, then either we have simplicity, which is worse than theft, or something more serious.
    23. 0
      11 December 2022 20: 50
      Will there be conclusions with live real and very fast actions from all revelations
    24. -2
      11 December 2022 21: 03
      Quote: fiberboard
      Hmm, we really miss Stalin now.

      Prigogine, right?
    25. +3
      11 December 2022 21: 08
      Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
      But what about our "grandmaster" Putin - he was deceived for 8 years, but he did not understand?!

      Come on! The first person of the state, an over-informed person just by position, a huge bunch of special services and analytical groups - and he was deceived?! Nonsense. I don't believe in this for the rest of my life. To sit for a decade and a half (by the 14th year) at the pinnacle of power and remain naive, like a first grader? It doesn't happen in principle.
    26. +1
      11 December 2022 21: 23
      She is standing in a blouse, pretending to be cold, against the background of the EU flag, which means that she is for the EU against Russia, and a round table - for negotiations or something. And on the wall there is some kind of picture with faces, apparently expressing the population of Germany, which is so stupid that it does not understand all the benefits of sanctions against itself, in the name of the victory of the terrorist Zelensky. She is bored in retirement, she wants to become a pioneer back, to walk with a drum, to blow into a pipe - and you can bulge back only by committing this crime, calling the peace treaties a forgery on her part. She won't get anything for it. This is some kind of desperate attempt by a pensioner of all-Union significance to return to power. Did she seriously think this when the Minsk agreements were written - nevertheless, she made a confession to the crime, on behalf of the FRG, be that as it may, something needs to be done about it. This actually means that it is necessary to bomb and not talk - the agreements that they sign are worth nothing, this is a lie and a forgery. So Hitler liked to "negotiate" - Mrs. Merkel apparently finally moved to the extreme right camp of politics, to the Nazis. After such statements, there is nothing to talk about - either you will kill them or they will kill you - as in any war with the Nazis.
    27. 0
      11 December 2022 21: 37
      Quote from Chem1st
      Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
      But what about our "grandmaster" Putin - he was deceived for 8 years, but he did not understand?!

      Come on! The first person of the state, an over-informed person just by position, a huge bunch of special services and analytical groups - and he was deceived?! Nonsense. I don't believe in this for the rest of my life. To sit for a decade and a half (by the 14th year) at the pinnacle of power and remain naive, like a first grader? It doesn't happen in principle.


      And where should Vladimir Vladimirovich go? Everyone who knows how to run the state is already working as taxi drivers and sticking out at ,, VO ,, drinks
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    29. 0
      11 December 2022 21: 42
      Quote: fiberboard
      The motto of "zeroed" should be: "Yes, it's not difficult to deceive me, I myself am glad to be deceived!" It was clear right away, in 2014. Hmm, we really miss Stalin now.


      Very lacking! He would have shot the alarmists and all-propalshikov in the first place! good
    30. +3
      11 December 2022 21: 52
      Peremoga ....
      And noodles on the ears.
      Any agreements are signed for some benefit:
      Russia: according to the Goblin, from the age of 14, she began preparing for the SVO. Everyone remembers the Russian military FSB officer Girkin in the role of the Minister of Defense of the republics?
      Ukraine: stop the mess, so that no more republics are chopped off. Bring some order.
      That is, the Minsks were beneficial to them too
      Even more so for the West. Ukraine is in order - here you have grain, and coal, and metal, and fertilizers, and gas ... and a buffer zone, and the market ... The whole Maidan is because of the desire to join the EEC, somehow it’s not fashionable to remember ...

      Someone thinks that Minsk could be taken so that someone weakens there? Of course not.
      What we see now.

      Well, then Putin gave Merkel flowers. Like a partner. Such are the partners of the Kremlin.
      Either the pilot will be killed, then the terrorists will be supported, then they will not recognize anything, then they will send nafig at all ...
    31. +2
      11 December 2022 21: 56
      The behavior of Merkel and the leaders of France has always raised questions.
      France and Germany, like Russia, are guarantors of the Minsk agreements.
      But the leaders of these countries constantly ranted that it was Russia that did not comply with the Minsk agreements.
      Did they not read the text?
      Of course they read and knew perfectly well that the performers were the republics of Donbass and Ukraine.
      So they just blatantly lied and cheated.
      It was obvious.
      Paris and Berlin could easily put pressure on Kyiv and force them to carry out Minsk-2.
      But they dragged on, doing nothing to end the conflict.
      But no one pulled Merkel's tongue, she could have remained silent, and not dumped her dirty laundry for everyone to see.
      I think the Kremlin saw and understood everything perfectly, but to the last they did not want to be drawn into the war.
      All the same, this is the death of our soldiers. It's hard to make such decisions.
      But Putin admitted that apparently it was still necessary to annex the republics back in 2014. But as folk wisdom says, he would have known where to fall, he would have laid straws.
    32. +2
      11 December 2022 22: 12
      I read the comments and am amazed. Everyone writes - yes, it was obvious, but we all did not believe, but they are all lying anyway, but where was the president looking? Well, let's try to figure it out (I'll tell you right away, I'm not an expert, I express my opinion, you can throw tomatoes later). And so the 14 year Minsk agreements, it is already clear that bullshit, what happens next: since 15, Russia has been updating short-range and medium-range missiles, creating high-precision strike systems, demonstrating the diversity of its weapons and capabilities, updating tanks, armored personnel carriers and so on. At the same time, in 2016-2020, the number of weapons supplied abroad is reduced by 22%. A reorientation is being made in partners (if India used to buy weapons, now China, Algeria and Egypt). Next - the world-famous 2020 (pandemic - a control check of the army's performance and the ability to quickly build hospitals. Checking the ENTIRE medical complex for readiness to receive the wounded in large volumes). And now the question is - Putin was not ready? They were preparing - the process was on the face, they did not have time, they did not succeed, their own corrupt generals stole from three boxes, now the caps are flying to the right and left of all those responsible. For us ordinary people, there is an understanding only now, when the puzzle is being put together. I do not believe that hundreds of options for what could have been done were not calculated, but we were definitely preparing for war. And one more thing - for everyone who writes that it was necessary to immediately shy away, bomb everything - I have a question for you - I hope you write from the trenches, stand at the forefront defending your convictions, because if you look at the situation directly, you get the following - the scope of our actions is equal to the volume of counteractions. The stronger the attack from the Russian Federation, the more fierce the response will be. Clearly, numerous victims are not beneficial to the state, and as long as there is an opportunity to stand on their positions, reflecting attempts to break through the line of contact, systematically destroying infrastructure, manpower, equipment, air defense and other newfangled things donated by the West, like beads to natives, Ukraine, they need to be destroyed and eliminated while incurring fewer losses.
      Proofs: you drive in Yandex the statistics of arms sales by year, the volume of investments in the medical sector, the years and dates of the creation of various types of weapons and the volume of weapons supplied to the RF Armed Forces. It’s a pity that only now it became clear who did what and why (Well, for me personally, unfortunately)

      PS: Registered just to comment. I won't be back!
      1. -1
        13 December 2022 18: 51
        Since 15, Russia has been updating short-range and medium-range missiles, creating high-precision strike systems

        My friend, tie a hunchback to sculpt, what kind of complexes of precision strikes did you have in 14, if the Crimea was taken without a single shot? In 14, neither zircons with Iskanders nor Poseidons with space fighters were needed, it would be enough to return a couple of BTGs to Kyiv to disperse the Maidan and Yanukovych.
        but we were definitely preparing for war

        And why, in this case, were they not taken out 300 yards and they were arrested?


        What kind of incoherent text do you have, no snacks?
    33. -1
      11 December 2022 22: 17
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      The behavior of Merkel and the leaders of France has always raised questions.
      France and Germany, like Russia, are guarantors of the Minsk agreements.
      But the leaders of these countries constantly ranted that it was Russia that did not comply with the Minsk agreements.
      Did they not read the text?
      Of course they read and knew perfectly well that the performers were the republics of Donbass and Ukraine.
      So they just blatantly lied and cheated.
      It was obvious.
      Paris and Berlin could easily put pressure on Kyiv and force them to carry out Minsk-2.
      But they dragged on, doing nothing to end the conflict.
      But no one pulled Merkel's tongue, she could have remained silent, and not dumped her dirty laundry for everyone to see.
      I think the Kremlin saw and understood everything perfectly, but to the last they did not want to be drawn into the war.
      All the same, this is the death of our soldiers. It's hard to make such decisions.
      But Putin admitted that apparently it was still necessary to annex the republics back in 2014. But as folk wisdom says, he would have known where to fall, he would have laid straws.


      Bravo! Full understanding of the topic! good

      I will add that since 2014, Russia, trying to return Ukraine to a peaceful course, nevertheless began preparations for the NWO and focused its efforts on the production of strategic weapons, so that NATO would not go to war with Russia, knowing that in the event of a clash, the NATO contingent would be destroyed almost instantly. The president made an absolutely right move good
    34. 0
      11 December 2022 22: 55
      According to Merkel, in the 1990s, the West did not finish what it had begun earlier, "without pacifying Russia."

      Merkel:

      In principle, Russia has never been pacified.

      So our fathers and grandfathers of the Nazis did not finish off. It was necessary to scatter them all over the world so that the "incubator" where Nazism breeds would disappear forever.
    35. +4
      11 December 2022 23: 02
      What is the deception? The fact that they outplayed partners? Someone was glad to be deceived, thinking that it was more cunning. A cool thing, the politician screwed up, but the serfs will still be pulled out .... The big country will pull out ...
    36. +3
      11 December 2022 23: 03
      And in our upper circles, everyone wants to become their own for the West, so that they are friends with us, and therefore they go to all these agreements in the hope that all of a sudden now they will give a ride and the "partners" will not deceive.
    37. +4
      11 December 2022 23: 13
      It is strange that everyone was led by "what was said", instead of looking carefully at the one "who said".
      Angela Merkel is, firstly, a woman, one year younger than me, and secondly, a well-known politician in Germany in the past. Olaf Scholz - firstly, a man, five years younger than me, and secondly, a little-known current figure in Germany. These are the initial data.
      I can't imagine how Angela Merkel almost coped with a purely male job and why Olaf Scholz can't cope with his job? Are strong men with political flair and practical skills transferred to Germany? In Germany, slender persons with indefinite gender characteristics rule the ball?
      There is no reason to be surprised at Germany's apparent political and business failure. It remains only to listen to the "arias" of former and current politicians, who are in limbo, but with pretensions for the future.
    38. 0
      11 December 2022 23: 31
      Quote from: 1razvgod
      What is the deception? The fact that they outplayed partners? Someone was glad to be deceived, thinking that it was more cunning. A cool thing, the politician screwed up, but the serfs will still be pulled out .... The big country will pull out ...


      According to your own logic, if a fraudster deceives you, then he is handsome because you are a loshara! Bravo!!! Logic top! drinks
    39. +1
      12 December 2022 01: 05
      Have Angela Merkel's revelations about Russia and the Minsk agreements become revelations for someone?

      Steel, for me. It’s one thing when everyone already knew the truth, but Western politicians publicly lied and whoever wanted to hawal this lie, it’s another thing to start talking to a person of such a high position who directly took part in those events ...
    40. 0
      12 December 2022 12: 48
      She is simply trying to sway the doubters to the side of the West. Something like "we have a plan and we follow it, so while there is time, choose our side."
    41. 0
      12 December 2022 14: 06
      Such revelations are no longer surprising. It would be nice if our special services also reported that they were prevented from seeing these actions for 8 years.
    42. +1
      12 December 2022 19: 21
      The question is posed incorrectly. Merkel's statement struck at the foreign policy of the Russian Federation, aimed at rapprochement with "Europe" (actually with Germany). The purpose of this policy proved to be misguided. And mistakes in politics are worse than political crimes (the classic said so). Russia suffered huge losses.
      And who is shaping our foreign policy? Correctly.
      And with whom is a similar “rapprochement” happening now? It looks like with Turkey. How will this policy end?
      I have no answer. You have to live long in the Russian Federation, then you will live to see everything.
      Minister Murashko predicts you many years to come.
    43. 0
      12 December 2022 22: 47
      "Have Angela Merkel's revelations about Russia and the Minsk agreements become revelations for someone?"
      Judging by the fact that we have the last 10 months, then for our rulers.
    44. +1
      12 December 2022 23: 24
      The questions are not for the EU guarantors of the Minsk agreements, who led our diplomacy by the nose.
      The question to our diplomacy, who danced Kalinka / Lezginka and made faces, grinning.
      The result of antics, clowning and ... political impotence was that
      that now they are raking those who do not know how to dance and giggle, but to fight and die.
    45. 0
      13 December 2022 18: 59
      Merkel's gesture in the picture does not correspond to the situation; she needs to show figs.
    46. 0
      13 December 2022 19: 13
      Merkel's statement was a revelation for Putin. For most of our citizens, most likely not.
    47. 0
      14 December 2022 03: 26
      Quite similarly, this was done with Croatia and the Serbs. Not without reason, this example inspired tarasiks for all eight years. Even their future operation against the Donbass was called "Storm" in Croatian.
    48. 0
      6 February 2023 08: 38
      "A fool doesn't need a knife,
      you will lie to him from three boxes and
      do what you want with him!!!!
      And what, Putin was assigned the role of "Pinocchio" ...

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