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Video of the surrender of the crew of the Ukrainian T-72 tank with welded hatches appeared on the Web

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Video of the surrender of the crew of the Ukrainian T-72 tank with welded hatches appeared on the Web

Reports about the appearance on the battlefield of Ukrainian tanks with welded hatches turned out to be not fakes at all, as they repeatedly stated in Kyiv, accusing Russia of propaganda, but the truth. A video of the surrender of the tankers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who had to be taken out of the tank because of the welded hatches, appeared on the Web.


To win at any cost, despite the losses and prevent the surrender of personnel into captivity - these are the main tasks of the Bandera command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. By welding the hatches of the tanks, the crews are essentially made suicide bombers, who, in the event of the same defeat of the vehicle, will not be able to leave it.

For the first time, Alexander Khodakovsky, battalion commander of the Vostok battalion, spoke about the Ukrainian T-72 with welded hatches in September. According to him, during one of the attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a Ukrainian tank came out to the positions of the battalion, which behaved inappropriately, i.e. lifting the gun up, rotated the tower from side to side. As it turned out, the hatches of the tank were welded, and the crew was simply walled up in it, like in a tin can.

Not everyone believed Khodakovsky's story. Someone called it a soldier's tale, someone just a fake, and in Kiev they accused Russia of propaganda, adding that "Ukrainian heroes" do not need to weld hatches, they will defeat the Russian army so soon.

We will not argue with anyone, we will not give any arguments either, but we will simply show a small video that appeared on the Web the day before. Where and when the video was filmed is not known, as the driver of the Ukrainian tank said, the hatches were welded so that "the boys could not get out and surrender." Apparently, the command of the unit to which this tank belonged "trusts" its fighters so much that they are afraid of their surrender.

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  1. voice of reason
    voice of reason 11 December 2022 10: 50
    +67
    Well, right there, a whole sect is "it is impossible to brew hatches." What arguments did they give, how did they prove that there was no such thing and could not be. It makes no sense and is technically impossible. so what now? admit that eyewitnesses from the front know better? or will they go to the fact that the picture is not like a cinema, which means "unreadable"?
    1. Vasia
      Vasia 11 December 2022 10: 56
      +57
      They do not understand, apparently, that it is impossible to consider what is happening in Ukraine from the point of view of common sense. Through the efforts of the owners, common sense left this country for a long time and for a long time.
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 11 December 2022 11: 01
        +3
        No comments!
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        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 11 December 2022 14: 46
          +9
          All hatches must be welded - on the tower, driver, spare in the bottom.
          It is interesting that it is necessary to brew immediately before the battle (well, do not sit in a brewed tank for weeks, that way it’s not just to give up, but they themselves will go on the attack, and it doesn’t matter who).
          However, I am sure that they will soon cut out the footage with two white stripes and will show it in the Kyiv news: "Russians are sealing the hatches in the tank"
          1. AlekSstST1958
            AlekSstST1958 11 December 2022 20: 44
            +2
            I agree about the two white stripes.
            Video from 2014x so the Armed Forces of Ukraine marked their equipment ...
            Why make fools of yourself again with the crucified boy
          2. ROSS_51
            ROSS_51 11 December 2022 23: 05
            +1
            However, I am sure that they will soon cut out the footage with two white stripes and will show it in the Kyiv news: "Russians are sealing the hatches in the tank"

            What gives you such confidence? Dressed in a Ukrainian “figure” with a Ukrainian chevron, a tanker getting out of the hatch?
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 12 December 2022 02: 13
              +5
              Quote: ROSS_51
              What gives you such confidence? Dressed in a Ukrainian “figure” with a Ukrainian chevron, a tanker getting out of the hatch?

              Confidence instills a video of "brutal murders in Bucha", where in the mirror one could see how the dead rose after a passing car.
              Although they can then cut out the tanker.
            2. stankow
              stankow 12 December 2022 02: 18
              -13
              And the other two, where are they? Wasn't it enough to shoot "films"? Where is the submachine gunner, how is the surrender of the enemy accepted? Where are the teams, silently surrendering, with full mutual understanding and without words? Did the locksmith accept the change? Three doomed?
              1. ROSS_51
                ROSS_51 12 December 2022 07: 35
                +6
                Quote: stankow
                And the other two, where are they? Wasn't it enough to shoot "films"? Where is the submachine gunner, how is the surrender of the enemy accepted? Where are the teams, silently surrendering, with full mutual understanding and without words? Did the locksmith accept the change? Three doomed?


                Yes, fuck all your Wishlist. Would you like to invite Bondarchuk for filming? The video, by the way, is taken from your TG channels. Wipe yourself!
                1. Leonid67
                  Leonid67 12 December 2022 09: 35
                  -8
                  And what about Bondarchuk? Well, really, why is the video not from the beginning, so short and intermittent? It looks more like an element of information warfare only from our side. I'm not saying that you need to believe their fakes, but you don't want to be deceived by forgery on our part!
                2. stankow
                  stankow 12 December 2022 12: 54
                  -2
                  I want nothing but the truth. Stupid history, true or not, does not add any dignity or shame. Neither the Armed Forces of Ukraine, nor the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Here the military officers and tiktokers are ashamed of lies and half-truths.
              2. Reader 47
                Reader 47 12 December 2022 07: 37
                -4
                I remember an old Soviet film where a child asked the question "Uncle Petya, are you?"
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    2. RGB
      RGB 11 December 2022 11: 01
      -67
      What about admitting it? This video in this quality with a jumping picture proves little!
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 11 December 2022 11: 27
        +34
        Quote from RVA
        What about admitting it? This video in this quality with a jumping picture proves little!

        Naturally staged videos of various "white helmets" are inferior, 150 kg of bombs on the beds are not there, like washing powder on their hands !!! Yes, and apparently an untrained operator shoots the video (the phone is held vertically, which is a sign of a neophyte),laughing
        Namely, blunders and quality "below the plinth" proves the reality of the video.
        1. Oleg Ogorod
          Oleg Ogorod 11 December 2022 11: 34
          -48
          Are the RA fighters at war with cell phones? Where is the command looking?
          Cellular operator Russian or Ukrainian (however, one horse-radish is American)?
          1. Myths
            Myths 11 December 2022 11: 50
            +32
            I'll tell you a secret, the phone shoots video in flight mode, and you can turn it on for a short time to shoot ...
            1. Oleg Ogorod
              Oleg Ogorod 11 December 2022 15: 31
              -14
              Do soldiers hold phones to shoot?
              Well, they can give out on the air, declassify a part. Phones and video filming are PROHIBITED in the army operating there. Only military correspondents can give a picture verified by anyone. Well, the Chechens were still allowed. Actually, they couldn't ban it.
              1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Kote Pan Kokhanka 11 December 2022 17: 26
                +3
                Quote: Oleg Ogorod
                Do soldiers hold phones to shoot?
                Well, they can give out on the air, declassify a part. Phones and video filming are PROHIBITED in the army operating there. Only military correspondents can give a picture verified by anyone. Well, the Chechens were still allowed. Actually, they couldn't ban it.

                Why did it bother you so much? Something broke in the worldview or some personal problems.
                If you think soberly, a fighter using a cell phone on the line of clashes put himself and his comrades under attack. On the other hand, what soldier did not go AWOL. He himself was a cadet and personally climbed over the fence, then as an officer he personally caught and tore those who had gone astray “for beer of the soul”. I think he has already raked his own from the commanders, that's enough.
                On the other hand, a video that is quite inconvenient for a part of the audience. After all, curators can cut rations.
                1. valera75
                  valera75 12 December 2022 12: 03
                  +3
                  Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                  On the other hand, what soldier did not go AWOL. He himself was a cadet and personally climbed over the fence, then as an officer he personally caught and tore those who had gone astray “for beer of the soul”. I think he already raked his own from the commanders, that's enough
                  he could shoot a video without a SIM card with a phone, the quality of the video is just like that of a push-button mobile. And already being in the rear, throw it to someone on a smart phone and then upload it to the channel in a cart
      2. maiman61
        maiman61 11 December 2022 13: 32
        +12
        Well, of course, they don’t shoot in a film studio! And in the war!
      3. maxim1987
        maxim1987 11 December 2022 13: 47
        +9
        Quote from RVA
        What about admitting it? This video in this quality with a jumping picture proves little!

        and that it (the tank) had to be delivered to a television studio in Moscow first? Just to fart
    3. svp67
      svp67 11 December 2022 11: 03
      +24
      Quote: voice of reason
      Well, right there, a whole sect is "it is impossible to brew hatches."

      Yes, everything is possible, the question is different, what idiot did it? There are electro-impact bushings in the charges and any induced spark could cause a trigger, and the tank was completely loaded with ammunition, which means this is an explosion and demolition of the tower, along with those who brewed,
      Further, I didn’t notice that the OPVT hatch was welded, why it wasn’t opened, at least for communication. And most importantly, the mechanic has "hatch-heroes" in the bottom, they welded it the same way, I would see how they did it ... why didn't they use it?
      And now the funniest thing. This is a T-72B, a characteristic wind sensor, isn’t it from captured ones, it also has a hatch for ejecting spent pallets, it cannot be brewed, otherwise the tank will not be able to shoot from a cannon, what’s wrong with it?
      1. saigon
        saigon 11 December 2022 11: 14
        +36
        Weld the lower hatch of problems zero or zero any non-permissive weld welds ceiling seams.
        The armor is welded by arc welding, what is the problem?
        1. Silver99
          Silver99 11 December 2022 11: 23
          -35
          the problem is that armor welding requires equipment from the manufacturer, it is unlikely that a vocational school welder in the field will do this.
          1. adma
            adma 11 December 2022 12: 32
            +23
            Only special electrodes are needed. Which in the tank unit, as a rule, in bulk.
            1. ZAV69
              ZAV69 11 December 2022 13: 26
              +19
              Lord, yes, it’s just n.a.s.r.a.n.o if it was torn off with a crowbar and a hammer. What special electrodes?
              1. poquello
                poquello 11 December 2022 13: 57
                +12
                Quote: ZAV69
                Lord, yes, it’s just n.a.s.r.a.n.o if it was torn off with a crowbar and a hammer. What special electrodes?

                but it doesn't matter, the hatch is still blocking
          2. Skif
            Skif 11 December 2022 12: 41
            +32
            Steel is like steel. It cooks like any other. Yes, and, judging by the video, collected on pot holders. This is enough to not open the hatch from the inside.
        2. svp67
          svp67 11 December 2022 11: 26
          +9
          Quote: saigon
          Weld the lower hatch of problems zero or zero any non-permissive weld welds ceiling seams.

          It’s a double hatch there ... Then, try to get in there, under the bottom, there’s a maintenance hatch, then unscrew it, you’ll suffer
          1. sifgame
            sifgame 11 December 2022 11: 49
            +19
            Do you consider the option of brewing from a pit?
            1. Illanatol
              Illanatol 11 December 2022 13: 47
              +10
              Then from the trench. I put the tank over the trench and cook quietly.
            2. svp67
              svp67 11 December 2022 14: 00
              +6
              Quote: sifgame
              Do you consider the option of brewing from a pit?

              Yes, everything is considered, only so much work, and the output is ZERO whole, zero tenths of efficiency
          2. adma
            adma 11 December 2022 12: 30
            +9
            To be honest, getting out through even an unwelded drape hatch in 72-ke is still a headache. And if the mechanic has some minimal chance, then the commander with the gunner is unlikely.
            1. maiman61
              maiman61 11 December 2022 13: 35
              +11
              He studied at OVTIU, looked at the emergency lower hatch and realized that there was no chance, you would only die sweating!
          3. gurzuf
            gurzuf 11 December 2022 13: 27
            +5
            Purely out of interest, but is it a problem to brew it from inside the tank?
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 11 December 2022 18: 45
              +2
              Quote: gurzuf
              Purely out of interest, but is it a problem to brew it from inside the tank?

              Counter question - Why? what
              1. gurzuf
                gurzuf 12 December 2022 18: 14
                0
                Another counter question - have you read the article? hi
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 12 December 2022 22: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: gurzuf
                  Another counter question - have you read the article? hi

                  I read it, just like you asked out of interest - Why? Why drag the machine and welding cables inside, if it’s easier to make a couple of tacks on the outside, and it’s easier to tear them back than to mess around with a mount later. hi
          4. saigon
            saigon 11 December 2022 15: 21
            0
            Well, what's the point that he will crawl through a double person? It will crawl through, and if a person climbs through, then there are no problems to brew.
        3. Stas157
          Stas157 11 December 2022 11: 37
          +15
          Quote: saigon
          Bronyazhka is welded by arc welding what is the problem ?

          Why so much fuss?
          Zero meaning.
          But the crew still gave up.
          1. Roma 1977
            Roma 1977 11 December 2022 11: 41
            +35
            In Ukraine, in general, a lot of things are done with zero meaning. Starting with the Maidan for "lace panties".
            1. jdiver
              jdiver 13 December 2022 02: 42
              +3
              from the very beginning of the Maidan jumping, they had to weld the roof in their head with welding so that they would not leave. but they were late. now on tank hatches they recoup
          2. Myths
            Myths 11 December 2022 11: 52
            +8
            And why chain to a pole with a gun and a machine gun?! He might as well give up...
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 11 December 2022 12: 22
              +4
              Quote from Mitos
              And why chain to a pole with a gun and a machine gun?! He might as well give up...

              Quite right. With Japanese machine gunners in WWII, this is what Japanese officers did ...
          3. Illanatol
            Illanatol 11 December 2022 13: 50
            +3
            Quote: Stas157
            Why so much fuss?
            Zero meaning.


            There's a meaning. Punishment for the edification of others. Perhaps these unfortunate warriors have already tried to desert before. So they decided to punish them in such a way that it would be disrespectful to others.
            But they were lucky that they saved their lives.
        4. VicktorVR
          VicktorVR 11 December 2022 18: 19
          -2
          The problem is that every couch warrior is also a couch welder.

          A question for real welders: wasn’t it easier to weld with gas? And you don't need an elvo...
          1. saigon
            saigon 11 December 2022 18: 48
            +4
            It’s easier and more reliable semi-automatically in an argon environment, the question is different, why the hell is this?
            1. VicktorVR
              VicktorVR 12 December 2022 05: 17
              -2
              I'm interested in the purely practical part :)
              Electric welding requires electricity, and any generator will not work, you need from 5 kW, in a shielding gas environment - the device itself is not the simplest and a cylinder or even two with gas.

              And with gas welding, everything is somehow simpler - two cylinders with gearboxes, hoses and a burner.
              How is armor cooked with gas?

              Yes, and gas is convenient for a marauder, blow off the lock there, or loops ...
              1. kpd
                kpd 12 December 2022 11: 13
                0
                It is badly boiled with gas, and it’s bad not because of the armor, it’s just difficult to heat thick metal until it melts. Electric welding still heats in a very limited volume and at a much higher temperature.
      2. KCA
        KCA 11 December 2022 11: 19
        +15
        Maybe after such an appeal to themselves, the crew decided that, well, they should run somewhere and fuck it all,
        Should this war be ended radically? Move to Russia, go through a filtration, work out as a prisoner of war, then get settled and, perhaps, apply for citizenship?
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 11 December 2022 14: 44
          +2
          Quote: KCA
          Move to Russia, go through a filtration, work out as a prisoner of war, then get settled and, perhaps, apply for citizenship?

          The video is for adults. mature men. Everyone has a family. children, parents, wife. And everything is in the power of the Svidobanderites.
      3. adma
        adma 11 December 2022 12: 38
        +12
        You can’t get out through the hatch for ejecting pallets, as well as through the hatch for the OPVT pipe. It's not a 62. This is a hatch for ejection of shells like a gate)
        1. svp67
          svp67 11 December 2022 15: 26
          +1
          Quote: adma
          You can’t get out through the hatch for ejecting pallets, as well as through the hatch for the OPVT pipe. It's not a 62. This is a hatch for ejection of shells like a gate)

          And I, what did I suggest where to do this? I generally suggested using them for communication, with the crew. Through them it was possible to pick up personal weapons
          1. adma
            adma 11 December 2022 17: 50
            +3
            There in the tank there is such a thing called a radio station. And outside the hull there is another thing - a TPU socket for connecting the crew with the landing force. Chat at least day and night.
            1. svp67
              svp67 11 December 2022 18: 03
              +2
              Quote: adma
              There in the tank there is such a thing called a radio station

              Yeah ... there is. There, on their tanks, they now have a digital radio station "Lybid (Swan) K-2RB", aka Motorola DM-4600, it has a frequency range
              VHF: 146-174, 300-308*, 336-344* MHz; UHF: 403-410, 417-422, 433-450, 469-470 MHz, have you already agreed on what frequency you will talk to them on? If yes, when and where?
              Quote: adma
              And outside the hull there is another thing - a TPU socket for connecting the crew with the landing force.

              Do you have a connection cord to it and a tank headset with you?
              Quote: adma
              Chat at least day and night.

              Well, yes, but first spend a couple of days on matching frequencies and searching for a cord and headset
              1. adma
                adma 11 December 2022 18: 35
                -3
                Quote: svp67
                Have you already agreed on what frequency you will talk to them? If yes, when and where?

                Of course agreed! In the smoking room before brewing. So he said - the frequency for communication with you is 469 025.
                Quote: svp67
                Do you have a connection cord to it and a tank headset with you?

                Yes. I wear it all the time in overalls. And I have a helmet instead of a cap.
                Quote: svp67
                Well, yes, but first spend a couple of days on matching frequencies and searching for a cord and headset

                And before that, three days to search for an extra tank and an unnecessary crew. laughing So we will continue to practice wit and sucking problems out of our fingers?
      4. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 11 December 2022 12: 59
        +13
        Quote: svp67
        And most importantly, the mechanic has "hatch-heroes" in the bottom, they welded it the same way, I would like to see how they did it

        Doesn't it bother you that the upper hatches were welded on with tacks? So the lower one for a couple of "snots" is not a problem to plant at all.
        Quote: svp67
        And now the funniest thing. This is a T-72, it also has a hatch for ejecting spent pallets, you can’t weld it, otherwise the tank will not be able to shoot from a cannon, what’s wrong with it?
        Really funny! Who can get out of this hatch, cat?
        1. svp67
          svp67 11 December 2022 15: 27
          0
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Who can get out of this hatch, cat?

          Is it possible to establish voice contact with the crew? Take personal weapons from the crew? Hang RDG-5 so that they are not naughty ... is it possible?
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 11 December 2022 16: 22
            +1
            Quote: svp67
            Is it possible to establish voice contact with the crew? Take personal weapons from the crew? Hang RDG-5 so that they are not naughty ... is it possible?

            I didn’t understand, it’s not a fact that you yourself understood ... The crew that is brewed under the threat of destruction from ATGM / RPG is unlikely to be equipped with weapons, and it makes no sense to threaten the RGD. And to the "receiving"))) side, communication can be established after the signals of a clear surrender and not through the hatch.
            1. svp67
              svp67 11 December 2022 16: 41
              +2
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              I did not understand, not the fact that you yourself understood ...

              I understand that, since one must always take into account the deceit of the enemy
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              The crew that is brewed under the threat of destruction from ATGM / RPG is unlikely to be equipped with weapons, and it makes no sense to threaten the RGD.

              That is, you completely trust them ... Somehow, during the "Desert Storm", one of the Iraqi tank units pretended to surrender, turned the guns back and approached the American unit, after which it turned the towers to a normal position and inflicted a serious damage to the Americans.
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 11 December 2022 16: 55
                0
                Quote: svp67
                I understand that, since one must always take into account the deceit of the enemy

                Well, okay, what prevents you from throwing the same RGD-5 through the hatch instead of a voice message or a machine gun? BUT?

                Quote: svp67
                That means you have full confidence in them.
                Pfft, where does this conclusion come from? What prevents the same to target those who surrender?

                Quote: svp67
                Like during "Desert Storm"
                I read this tale. But firstly, it’s not about a loner, secondly, the Americans were a tank unit, not infantry, and the Iraqis allegedly got close to the Abrams for this business and used the speed, maneuverability and high speed of the turret drives. With the infantry, everything will turn out exactly the opposite, I think it’s clear why.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 11 December 2022 17: 02
                  +2
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Well, okay, what prevents you from throwing the same RGD-5 through the hatch instead of a voice message or a machine gun? BUT?

                  Nothing, but in this case, I would also spin the turret on the "drive" at maximum transfer speed, simultaneously firing from all types of weapons.
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Pfft, where does this conclusion come from? What prevents the same to target those who surrender?

                  Who knows, under the influence of what "dope" they may be at this moment ...
                  There were cases when the crews of Ukrainian tanks, being surrounded, blew themselves up, along with the tank
                  1. Vladimir_2U
                    Vladimir_2U 11 December 2022 17: 16
                    +1
                    Quote: svp67
                    I would spin the tower on the "drive" at the maximum estimated speed, simultaneously firing from all types of weapons.

                    In short, brewing a cartridge case ejection hatch is outright nonsense.
                    Quote: svp67
                    There were cases when the crews of Ukrainian tanks, being surrounded, blew themselves up, along with the tank
                    For the first time I hear, well, the combustion of charges will occur much earlier than the detonation of the BC. The infantry is not particularly scary. hi
                    P / S Not shells, pallets of course.
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 11 December 2022 17: 26
                      +2
                      Quote: Vladimir_2U
                      For the first time I hear, well, the combustion of charges will occur much earlier than the detonation of the BC. The infantry is not particularly scary.

                      With hatches closed, this is a guaranteed separation of the tower
        2. seal78
          seal78 11 December 2022 18: 58
          +1
          Really funny! Who can get out of this hatch, cat?

          The cat can, yes)
      5. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 11 December 2022 14: 26
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        In the charges, there were electro-impact bushings and any induced spark could cause a trigger,

        And what? You can not replace electric welding with gas welding? what
        Quote: svp67
        the mechanic has a "hatch-heroes" in the bottom, they welded it the same way, I would see how they did it ...

        What? Can't brew inside? what
        Quote: svp67
        This is a T-72, it also has a hatch for ejecting spent pallets, it cannot be brewed, otherwise the tank will not be able to shoot from a cannon,

        What? Is this hatch connected by a "lever" to the gun breech? belay Isn't it possible to make several shots by dropping pallets "on the floor"? (All the same, they won’t let you shoot the entire ammunition load (or half a set ...)!) what
        1. svp67
          svp67 11 December 2022 15: 28
          +3
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Can't brew inside?

          Can't be knocked down from the inside? Meaning?
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 11 December 2022 18: 09
            0
            Quote: svp67
            Can't brew inside?

            Can't be knocked down from the inside? Meaning?

            Too bad I can't give you a "try"! Oh, I would see how you will count thrushes ... thrushes! (Although ... if you have encountered hack welders in your work, then you probably have the right to such an opinion! wink ) ...
            1. svp67
              svp67 11 December 2022 18: 15
              +1
              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              Oh, I would see how you will count thrushes ... thrushes

              Armor, when welding, it is necessary to warm it up well and use special electrodes, and you can immediately see what was done in haste, so there is a chance to knock down
      6. Reader 47
        Reader 47 12 December 2022 07: 42
        +1
        Well, yes, and when they brewed a plug for me without removing it from the car, there was such an explosion that the whole HUNDRED was blown up. And the car is in tatters. And so he went to shreds. Then he sold these shreds. The buyer is satisfied.
    4. Yves762
      Yves762 11 December 2022 11: 04
      -29
      what
      All believers (!) Should light up the story of "The War of the Worlds" - a radio show of the eponymous novel by H. G. Wells, which was broadcast on the CBS station on October 30, 1938 ... wink
    5. Argon
      Argon 11 December 2022 11: 30
      -7
      It's all funny. You can brew in a cage or a barrel, but you can brew it into a combat vehicle ?! What's the point? They can also be "offended" with all the consequences! And filming is not a problem. You can do it all with a trophy. So the logic is not clear. The only way I can explain this is that they are ordered not to go with open hatches, because grenades are thrown there, and the tankers do not obey.
      1. ZAV69
        ZAV69 11 December 2022 13: 30
        0
        The video was released on the Ukrainian channel.
    6. Sibguest
      Sibguest 11 December 2022 11: 57
      +7
      Yes, to these (sectarians) as in the saying: even pissing in the eyes is all God's dew.
      Now they will say that this video is staged.
      The Finns did the same: they chained snipers to something heavy (you can’t lift a person) with a minimum ration and a couple of clips. The Nazis did the same - they chained the penalty box to machine guns. Civilized nations...YET!
    7. carpenter
      carpenter 11 December 2022 12: 24
      -5
      Quote: voice of reason
      Well, right there, a whole sect is "it is impossible to brew hatches." What arguments did they give, how did they prove that there was no such thing and could not be.

      This is either an independent TsIPSO, or collaborators. If these footage gets to the west, and despite all the propaganda of the Ruin as a democratic country, even the wild west will not understand this.
      1. laws70
        laws70 11 December 2022 13: 11
        +7
        Even the wild west won't understand this.

        They'll say it's a Russian tank and that's it. We are barbarians, what to take from us ..
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 11 December 2022 14: 50
        +5
        Quote: carpenter
        If these footage gets to the west, and despite all the propaganda of the Ruin as a democratic country, even the wild west will not understand this.

        I beg of you ! We and the inhabitants of the current Bandera are not people for them, it seems worse than the Japanese and Vietnamese .. Why would they understand something that is not beneficial to them. Now, if the Jews were brewed in a tank, and even the Russians did it, then yes ... The stink for the whole universe ..
        1. carpenter
          carpenter 11 December 2022 16: 03
          +6
          Quote: 30 vis
          Now, if the Jews were brewed in a tank, and even the Russians did it, then yes ... The stink of the whole universe


          And if the Jews were brewed in a tank, then everyone would remain silent, and if the LGBT, and even an African-American woman, then Biden himself would lead the howl.
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 11 December 2022 17: 19
            +1
            Quote: carpenter
            LGBT, and even an African-American woman, then Biden himself will lead the howl.

            Yes, even without such a reason, he seems to howl not a fool! laughing
        2. Argon
          Argon 11 December 2022 16: 13
          +5
          You can't speak about the Jews here. Banned! Whether the administrators of Jewish nationality or wives))). From here, explanations begin to appear why there are such navosts on VO, how strange.
    8. Dmitry Tsarevich
      Dmitry Tsarevich 11 December 2022 23: 29
      -4
      There is one sofa here, he says Khodakovsky must be trusted divided by 10, it would be interesting to see how he would say it to his face, strategist Mamkin. And yes, even the article was that this is impossible. Expert, with explosions of farts and expert grenades
    9. Kriso Sborshik
      Kriso Sborshik 12 December 2022 09: 52
      0
      And how many times did stuff like this turn out to be fakes?
      Either the publicized Taira ate babies for breakfast, and then it turned out that it was all fiction and she was released, then the tribunal was prepared for the dungeon workers and sent to Erdogan to rest, and these are only the brightest moments that I remembered. Estessna now, without photo-video proofs, bringing our (as well as any other) media to zero
    10. Cottodraton
      Cottodraton 12 December 2022 11: 54
      0
      So even an article dashed off a whole about this ...
    11. aglet
      aglet 12 December 2022 12: 10
      +1
      "Well, right there, a whole sect has" hatches impossible to brew ""
      and who said it? hatches are not difficult to weld, or lightly grab, as in the video, because armored steel and ordinary iron do not adhere well to each other, and are held only on the electrode material. The question was quite different - why? what, so to speak, is the sacred meaning of this action? after all, this is a guaranteed loss of the tank. if you need to punish the crew, shoot him near this tank, a dozen rounds are dust compared to the price of the tank. if you want to punish the tank, then this is a psychiatrist
      "Do you admit that eyewitnesses from the front know better?"
      they lie, like all eyewitnesses, this is also said about them, in addition, they still shoot bullshit video, of their own production. as recent events have shown, there are much fewer fools in the APU than they write about it in public. and even if you become like you and take it for the truth, another question arises - is it that hatches are welded in all xoxlyatsky tanks, or is it only welded in one? and what can one tank decide, even with welded hatches?
      PS with your avatar, you obviously got excited
      1. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 12 December 2022 15: 22
        0
        There's even an entire article about it!
      2. Vladimir Pashchenko
        Vladimir Pashchenko 13 December 2022 03: 24
        0
        I think welding the hatch with the main electrode is not a problem at all, everything will seize there. Why do it, I don't understand
    12. zenion
      zenion 12 December 2022 18: 48
      0
      voice of mind Why brew if you can insert and tighten the bolt into the hatch eyes, or not tighten it. Never open without a key 17 to 19.
  2. dmi.pris1
    dmi.pris1 11 December 2022 10: 56
    +10
    Now the substance will rush through the sewer pipes .. laughingYou can brew anything. Even tea, but a spoon is expensive for dinner. And the video is so-so. Well, they brewed and brewed. Maybe so that no stranger would climb
    1. skeptick2
      skeptick2 11 December 2022 11: 06
      +4
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Well brewed and brewed

      The whole question is who brewed?
      И when?
      И why?
      1. dmi.pris1
        dmi.pris1 11 December 2022 11: 11
        +12
        And where is the crew saved from imminent death? There are a lot of questions about this video.
      2. stankow
        stankow 12 December 2022 02: 32
        +1
        "Science is silent" wink
        ..................
      3. aglet
        aglet 12 December 2022 12: 18
        0
        "The whole question is, who brewed it?
        And when?
        And why?"
        I’ll answer the question when, just before shooting, there are, you know, characteristic traces
        to the question of who, I don’t know, but a welder is a common specialty.
        why, to create evidence, as in the photo with rusty machine guns. was it not one hand that took them off?
    2. 2112vda
      2112vda 11 December 2022 12: 06
      +11
      Everything is correct. Do not forget that in (in) Ukraine there are excellent welders, it was they who cooked the gas pipelines to the West, including. With me, one welder, on a dare, welded a full bottle of vodka to the middle of a metal sheet. Nothing happened to the bottle, the mufflers were calmly brewed with the three electrodes while the engine was running. To weld any hatch on the tacks to a qualified welder is generally like two fingers on the asphalt. The seams are not welded so that it is impossible to open from the outside, but so that they do not crawl out from the inside. For any hatch, 2 or XNUMX tacks are enough and try to open it from inside. All this is elementary. After all, there are no requirements for the weld, the usual "kinematic" closure.
      1. edmed
        edmed 11 December 2022 12: 31
        +7
        Quote: 2112vda
        For any hatch, 2 or XNUMX tacks are enough and try to open it from inside.

        One "snot" is enough, and try to open the hatch in a covered wagon, and even sitting in a tower ... wassat
      2. Alexey Koshkarov
        Alexey Koshkarov 11 December 2022 15: 08
        +1
        I knew a welder, I brewed a tin can for a bet
    3. Hypertension
      Hypertension 11 December 2022 12: 30
      -14
      Quote: dmi.pris
      And so is the video.

      I also remember that there was a video with the sale of equipment by the Ukrainian military. Now, when both sides have uniforms, equipment, and enemy prisoners in bulk, you can at least shoot serials.
      The sensible part of the public laughed at this stupid product of propaganda, and even began to forget. But it wasn't there... We decided to "prove". As a result, they will again get ridicule. Although the stubborn victims of propaganda, on the contrary, are a balm for the soul. Critical thinking is not brought.
      1. lucul
        lucul 11 December 2022 13: 43
        -2
        As a result, they will again get ridicule. Although the stubborn victims of propaganda, on the contrary, are a balm for the soul. Critical thinking is not brought.

        And there is . You can’t beat Zionism in any way, it’s at the level of religion, they will deny any facts and evidence that they see with their own eyes, but do not fit into the picture of Zionism. Until their gurus let them. Here even fanaticism rests.
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 11 December 2022 14: 31
          0
          Quote: lucul
          You can't beat Zionism

          What is Zionism to do with it? fool
          1. aglet
            aglet 12 December 2022 12: 23
            +2
            What does Zionism have to do with it?
            Well Duc ... if there is no faucet .. and who else is to blame?
      2. runway-1
        runway-1 11 December 2022 22: 15
        +3
        I completely agree! The main thing is clear: the ridiculous video, which "confirms" previous reports, caused a wave of joyful comments from the trolls and those who are deprived of common sense ... winked
  3. Roman Efremov
    Roman Efremov 11 December 2022 10: 57
    -7
    The lower hatch will remain in any way - they are unlikely to brew there.
    1. Esso
      Esso 11 December 2022 11: 12
      +1
      Quote: Roman Efremov
      The lower hatch will remain in any way - they are unlikely to brew there.

      and the lower ones are welded. Already checked.
      1. skeptick2
        skeptick2 11 December 2022 11: 34
        +4
        Post a link, please. For this check.
        And if it doesn't make it difficult, to negotiate with the tank crew. He, as far as I understand, inside? Or is it not there?
        And the tank itself was shot incomprehensibly where and incomprehensibly when?
        The only thing that is clear is why.
        1. Esso
          Esso 11 December 2022 21: 42
          -2
          Ride there without any, but prove it to me. As a volunteer, for example, after talking with the military, everything will immediately fall into place. The second video is not complete, cut off, I think the full one will be uploaded later. The logic of the Nationalists is difficult to understand. The logic of the Anglo-Saxons is easy to understand, they don’t need people here, moreover, Russian-speaking .... They drive everyone to the slaughter, and there are few people from the West. Zapadentsy or Punishers themselves or in the Rear are sitting ...
          1. aglet
            aglet 12 December 2022 12: 32
            -2
            "Skate there without any, but prove it to me."
            there is such a folk saying, just for you - do not tell me what I should do, and I will not tell you where you need to go
            "the video is not complete, cut off, I think the full one will be uploaded later"
            yep, they're taking it down now
            1. Esso
              Esso 12 December 2022 14: 46
              0
              Quote: aglet
              "Skate there without any, but prove it to me."
              there is such a folk saying, just for you - do not tell me what I should do, and I will not tell you where you need to go
              "the video is not complete, cut off, I think the full one will be uploaded later"
              yep, they're taking it down now

              There is another saying, Talk, do not roll bags. If you have nothing to say, then shut up. I get information from other sources, from those who are there, and not from Sofas like you. Prove the opposite about the video. I have already seen a video with cutting off something to someone, partial. And then after a while, I saw the full. So that yours is filmed, it doesn’t roll. As one Marine, one of the MP brigades, said, tell these clowns, let them come, we will teach them how to shoot and fight, there will be no time to talk too much.
              1. aglet
                aglet 12 December 2022 15: 14
                -1
                "As one Marine said, one of the MP brigades, tell these clowns, let them come, we will teach them how to shoot and fight"
                who would have taught them, warriors ... these are not the marines who complained to the governor that they were being forced to fight?
                "Prove the opposite about the video"
                I have no doubt that the brewed hatch of the tank was removed. that the same hatch was removed, I don’t believe it, and you can’t prove it with anything
                "I get information from other sources, from those who are there"
                did they send this bullshit video?
                1. Esso
                  Esso 14 December 2022 18: 18
                  +1
                  Quote: aglet
                  "As one Marine said, one of the MP brigades, tell these clowns, let them come, we will teach them how to shoot and fight"
                  who would have taught them, warriors ... these are not the marines who complained to the governor that they were being forced to fight?
                  "Prove the opposite about the video"
                  I have no doubt that the brewed hatch of the tank was removed. that the same hatch was removed, I don’t believe it, and you can’t prove it with anything
                  "I get information from other sources, from those who are there"
                  did they send this bullshit video?

                  These are not marines, but the mobiles that were brought in, poorly trained. Already understood. Nobody will prove anything to you personally, do not believe. Roll up, make sure you don't want to, shut up. If you are Thomas sofa, your problems.!
                  1. aglet
                    aglet 17 December 2022 14: 58
                    0
                    "Skate, make sure you don't want to, keep quiet. If you are Foma sofa, your problems.!"
                    Well, why don’t you ride, but believe all the nonsense that these soldiers send you? and, for the future, in the armed forces of the Russian Federation there is no such kind of troops - mobiles. although I had my doubts. how to name a soldier who does not know how to use his standard weapon, does not know how to attack enemy positions, at the slightest threat of the enemy, and even without threats, take flight, complain to mothers, wives, governors that they are forced to fight, well, for sure, mobiles. and what, they can tell me something and show me what I don’t know? yes, I forgot more than they know and can do. I was mistaken again - I have never heard of tanks with welded hatches, but they weld them themselves, and they even make a movie about it
      2. aglet
        aglet 12 December 2022 12: 24
        0
        "and the lower ones are welded. Already checked."
        did you personally check?
        1. Esso
          Esso 12 December 2022 14: 48
          -2
          Quote: aglet
          "and the lower ones are welded. Already checked."
          did you personally check?

          well, they probably asked the tankers why they didn’t get out through the bottom one and didn’t look themselves. Once again you don’t believe me, roll up and see for yourself, if you don’t want to, then keep quiet.
          1. aglet
            aglet 12 December 2022 15: 08
            0
            "Once again you don't believe me, roll up and see for yourself, if you don't want to, then keep quiet."
            again - do not tell me what to do, and I will not tell you where to go. and yet, do not spread stupidity in the wind
            1. Esso
              Esso 14 December 2022 18: 21
              0
              Well, you are talking nonsense, it turns out you are a balabol, if you don’t understand something, don’t blame others. Roll up and immediately see the light, if you don’t want to, well, keep quiet and no one will tell you anything.
              1. aglet
                aglet 17 December 2022 14: 43
                0
                "Skate and immediately see the light, do not want to"
                did you ski? and immediately see the light? in this case, it would be scary to see your blindness before "enlightenment"
  4. Leshak
    Leshak 11 December 2022 10: 59
    +18
    Honestly, I myself was skeptical about these stories and not because it was not possible, but simply - why?! But dill again proves that they have nothing sacred and human life is not valued at all. Such cases are beyond the understanding of a normal person.
    1. voice of reason
      voice of reason 11 December 2022 11: 05
      +10
      because they started to crumble. They no longer expect that this tank will return from the battle. Commanders deliberately send it one way. And they don’t feel sorry for the Russian-speaking mechanical drivers; they suspect them of sympathy for the “Russian world.” But they don’t have their own tractor drivers. Not the kind of profession for a Westerner. So they are driving free tanks with mobilized crews. Logic and meaning here are not in the field of tactics. It’s just that the commander needs to report that there was an attack and it bogged down. This will allow him to personally save his own skin. How many Slovak tanks will burn down and how many mobilized "left-bankers" will die at the same time, the top authorities do not care. This is how they fight. "attack" but every day, what if they push through? did it work in Kharkov? and like in Kherson? they firmly believe in it.
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 12 December 2022 09: 18
        -2
        did it work in Kharkov?


        No, it didn't work.
      2. aglet
        aglet 12 December 2022 12: 37
        -3
        "They no longer expect this tank to return from the battle. The commanders deliberately send it one way."
        they have these tanks, well, apparently, invisible. and especially tank crews. the only thing they have few foolish commanders
      3. aglet
        aglet 12 December 2022 12: 42
        -2
        "It seems to have worked in Kharkov? And it seems to have worked in Kherson?"
        no, there were gestures of goodwill from our armageddon commanders, running ahead of their own screeching
      4. Esso
        Esso 12 December 2022 15: 08
        -1
        Quote: voice of reason
        because they started to crumble. They no longer expect that this tank will return from the battle. Commanders deliberately send it one way. And they don’t feel sorry for the Russian-speaking mechanical drivers; they suspect them of sympathy for the “Russian world.” But they don’t have their own tractor drivers. Not the kind of profession for a Westerner. So they are driving free tanks with mobilized crews. Logic and meaning here are not in the field of tactics. It’s just that the commander needs to report that there was an attack and it bogged down. This will allow him to personally save his own skin. How many Slovak tanks will burn down and how many mobilized "left-bankers" will die at the same time, the top authorities do not care. This is how they fight. "attack" but every day, what if they push through? did it work in Kharkov? and like in Kherson? they firmly believe in it.

        You are right, but it is difficult to prove it to everyone. People think in a stereotyped way, as one military man told me, this war has nothing to do with what we have seen before in history. But we have a bunch of couch generals!
    2. Hagen
      Hagen 11 December 2022 11: 16
      +15
      Quote: Leshak
      Honestly, I myself was skeptical about these stories and not because it was not possible, but simply - why?!

      But I did not and do not relate to these stories, and to this video. Because the level of attitude of the commanding staff to their own mobilized, and in general to the citizens whom they consider their own (I'm not talking about us), from numerous reports, filming, including their own, is such that there is nowhere lower. No additional characterizing information is needed. And arguing for the sake of arguing on this occasion is not interesting. When for the first time in 2014 information passed, as a helicopter pilot, having the opportunity to save a wounded pilot, he nevertheless abandoned him, but taking his personal weapon, I was somewhat surprised. But the ensuing 8 years of war against their own population convinced me that everything degraded there, except for the thirst for money and the primary basic needs of the lower level (according to Maslow).
      1. sent26
        sent26 11 December 2022 12: 34
        +3
        The worst thing is that with a successful ending of the NWO, we will need to live together with these, as it were, people. Re-educate their children.
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 11 December 2022 12: 52
          +1
          Quote from sent26
          The worst thing is that with a successful ending of the NWO, we will need to live together with these, as it were, people. Re-educate their children.

          Yeah. This will be another task ... Although it must be admitted that Zelensky, unwittingly, but with each new case of outrage against the civilian population, each new bombardment of his former civilian fellow citizens, conducts invaluable political and educational work among his population smile .... In general, Ukrainianism, as a mental sign stuck in their heads over the past 30 years, will evoke the expression "Great and Mighty" for a long time to come.
        2. jdiver
          jdiver 13 December 2022 03: 07
          0
          this SVO is the cure. and people on both sides. On the other hand, those who chose lace panties and 30 pieces of silver on visas by selling their yesterday's brothers, on the other hand, it's the same for those who measured the value of life by the brand of iPhone in their pocket and the number of bucks in their wallet. and all this will last for a long time until the survivors on the other side forget what it is lace underpants, and on this side what are iPhones and bucks. and instead of these values, human values ​​will appear instead of those brought to us and to them by Western "partners" and for decades sold into the brain, what to them what to us. and until this understanding heals the consciousness of the once united people, all this bacchanalia of behind-the-scenes dances on the blood of all sorts of Abramovichs, arm in arm with the Kalomoiskys and others, will continue
      2. your vsr 66-67
        your vsr 66-67 11 December 2022 14: 00
        0
        except for the thirst for money and the primary basic needs of the lower level (according to Maslow).
        Money for ukrofpshists is everything! They will betray their mother and father for money! I know what I'm talking about! The meanest nation, on the same level with God's chosen ones.
    3. Leonidych
      Leonidych 11 December 2022 11: 29
      -1
      They are fascists, they are not human. By this, he shows that they will not win, they do not believe in victory and in their soldiers. And we believe in our wars and we will win because we are PEOPLE, and they are geeks.
    4. aglet
      aglet 12 December 2022 12: 34
      0
      "But the dill proves again"
      What is your evidence?
  5. RGB
    RGB 11 December 2022 11: 00
    +3
    Well, I'll tell you - the video is so-so! It's hard to tell anything from him.
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 11 December 2022 12: 18
      +1
      How much, in the eyes of all God's dew! (((
    2. maksbazhin
      maksbazhin 11 December 2022 14: 01
      0
      The key thing about this video is that it was filmed a long time ago, even before the srach...
      1. aglet
        aglet 12 December 2022 12: 45
        +2
        "The key thing about this video is that it was filmed a long time ago, even before the srach..."
        are you sure? is there a release date?
        1. maksbazhin
          maksbazhin 12 December 2022 14: 37
          0
          summer weather bully
          The text of the comment is too short, but in my opinion it is enough.
          1. aglet
            aglet 12 December 2022 14: 44
            +1
            "summer weather"
            we have now too.+9. and we are very close to Donetsk
  6. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 11 December 2022 11: 06
    +2
    From an ideological point of view, complete nonsense ... since yours is already considered a traitor (for example, hatches are brewed) ... initially they don’t trust ... then you are no longer YOURS for them ... there are no moral obligations, and well, everyone went to the country Х##
    There is no code. Honor the samurai of the country of Sumeria ... like let the enemy in and hump the BC)))
  7. seamen2
    seamen2 11 December 2022 11: 07
    +10
    As they wrote here more than once - why don’t the crews of such tanks smash the executioners who brew them into the trash.
    I can imagine a picture of a crowd with RPGs around the tank (as in * purgatory *) while welding is in progress.
    1. Vasia
      Vasia 11 December 2022 11: 17
      -3
      Quote from seamen2
      I can imagine a picture of a crowd with RPGs around the tank (as in * purgatory *) while welding is in progress.

      It is enough to calculate (two) anti-tank systems.
    2. seal78
      seal78 11 December 2022 19: 05
      +2
      why don’t the crews of such tanks smash the executioners who brew them into the trash.

      Probably because they are not completely idiots. In this situation, they are guaranteed to die, and there is a chance to give up and stay alive
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 11 December 2022 11: 10
    -2
    Video of the surrender of the crew of the Ukrainian T-72 tank with welded hatches appeared on the Web
    . There are different "sects" on the site, and not only on this site ...
    The documented facts do not convince everyone that this is / can be.
    And so, maybe anything, life is a complicated thing, in general, and when such extreme things happen, the unimaginable can happen !!!
    And yet, such facts must be officially documented and filed into a common cause ... it is not small anyway, but will become even larger.
  9. Turtle
    Turtle 11 December 2022 11: 10
    +1
    Everything is stable at the zoo. Rampant humanism and universal values. My congratulations to the relatives of Ukrainian servicemen!
  10. vlad2000
    vlad2000 11 December 2022 11: 11
    -2
    I can’t laugh. I was especially pleased with the phrase that where, by whom and when the video was filmed is unknown))) and it was filmed so beautifully that it’s not clear whose tank and in what area. Six months have passed since this bike appeared and finally they bungled the proof))) such welded tanks can be riveted into a division.
  11. Bingo
    Bingo 11 December 2022 11: 11
    +3
    To be honest, I didn’t believe it either ... I saw different things from dill, including those that didn’t fit into the cuckoo at all, but I thought that even for bydlo this was too much ...
    Is there some kind of bottom that they are not able to break through?!!!
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 11 December 2022 11: 48
      +1
      And even now, I don't really believe it. But it’s stupid to do this, and it’s stupid to do such a fake, so it’s even incomprehensible.

      The main doubt is that the tank is a scarce thing, and such a measure reduces its value. It would be logical to immediately mine it from the outside, so that they would not be taken prisoner, then.
      1. Bingo
        Bingo 11 December 2022 14: 40
        -4
        Quote: Sancho_SP
        The main doubt is that the tank is a scarce thing

        Ushatan in the trash and patched up on snot - such a city is as many as you like in any army, even in peacetime. Remind you how they drove all Chernobyl equipment to the front back in 15th? She has a resource after standing without conservation - km 100 of the course from strength.
      2. aglet
        aglet 12 December 2022 12: 48
        0
        "But it's stupid to do this, and it's stupid to do such a fake, so it's even incomprehensible."
        for stupid, for beer, that's it!
  12. Godzila
    Godzila 11 December 2022 11: 14
    -4
    Soon we will see chained cuckoos ..
    War to the last Ukrainian, do not let the Russians to the border with Poland, etc.
  13. Sol R
    Sol R 11 December 2022 11: 18
    +1
    Staging for lovers of the Russian world.
  14. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 11 December 2022 11: 18
    +1
    Well ... you can (!) If you really want to! You can provide video evidence, not just "blah blah blah"! good
    1. aglet
      aglet 12 December 2022 12: 50
      0
      "Well ... you can (!) If you really want to! You can provide video evidence, and not just "blah blah blah" "
      you forgot to put quotes, the word has video evidence
  15. Silver99
    Silver99 11 December 2022 11: 21
    0
    A muddy story, looks more like propaganda, of course, you can weld the hatches and tie the trunk in a knot, but WHY ???? There are many other ways for the penalized to show "heroism", didn't the welders understand that these would not be heroes, besides, as already noted, no one canceled the emergency hatch in the bottom and it is very problematic to weld it.
  16. Maks1995
    Maks1995 11 December 2022 11: 22
    +6
    Wah!
    They just started discussing on the network - is it not fake semi-annual news about welded hatches, not a single confirmation for six months - and there you are.
    Hatch video. One hatch, though, and the poor quality of the video, and carefully tucked away information - where, when, and who ...

    Is it just right to joyfully believe in such a timely fitted misunderstanding?
  17. Comandor777
    Comandor777 11 December 2022 11: 24
    -1
    They have fun there and interesting contests ...
  18. Nikolay310
    Nikolay310 11 December 2022 11: 25
    0
    what is the meaning of such brewing of hatches ??? in my opinion, this is stupidity on the part of the Ukrainians and a clear message that the tankers simply surrender. in the event of a tank defeat, the guys simply do not leave a chance for life ... and the only way out is to just go and give up. there is no point in dying for SUCH. this is not Ukraine, these are saddists
  19. Comandor777
    Comandor777 11 December 2022 11: 25
    -6
    What are they fighting for? For democratic values? Thank you, pissed off.
  20. kan123
    kan123 11 December 2022 11: 26
    -2
    Ukraine does not want to believe, and is not going to win, and they are leading these "lads" to the slaughter, just to pump out more money from the West. All one bloody fake, because the tank is a piece of iron, the main thing is the crew, and the task is to save the crew. To jump out of the tank on time is the main task of the tankers - they will be given a new tank and that's it. And when hatches are welded, this is an imitation of a war in order to report and beg for more money, and this must be a certain scum - for dollars, to exchange people's lives. Ruining people - who knows this nation, is not surprised by these magics.
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  22. Keer
    Keer 11 December 2022 11: 28
    +4
    And why is it not known where and when it was filmed? This would have been the main argument laughing
  23. navigator777
    navigator777 11 December 2022 11: 33
    -8
    And some, foaming at the mouth, prove that Khokhls are super-motivated and ready to die in batches for their land, but if they hadn’t been driven to slaughter, it would have been over a long time ago
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 11 December 2022 11: 55
      +2
      It’s more interesting here that they didn’t suppress their own. Although, perhaps, this is something like a punishment for cowardice.

      But here, too, it seems that there are more tanks than crews, and crews must be driven into free tanks by force? This is also strange, because tanks are definitely in short supply.
  24. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 11 December 2022 11: 40
    -5
    Anyone who does not believe in this has not served in the army. Everything is possible in the army.
  25. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 11 December 2022 11: 45
    0
    Some kind of game.
    The question remains unanswered why “their” caterpillars were not crushed for such a joke.
    1. Sochi
      Sochi 11 December 2022 12: 12
      0
      They wanted to live ... They would have been burned there, but the guys decided to go out to ours and surrender. So the chances of survival are higher. We took a risk and won a ticket with the inscription LIFE.
    2. VicktorVR
      VicktorVR 12 December 2022 05: 19
      +1
      Perhaps they were sent into battle at gunpoint with a grenade launcher? Even though this is kind of crazy...
  26. musorg
    musorg 11 December 2022 12: 00
    0
    However, they considered it safer to hand over both the crew and the tank!
  27. Raccoon Raccoon
    Raccoon Raccoon 11 December 2022 12: 02
    +4
    Of course, I am not an expert in the analysis of video materials, but the abrupt transition from picking out welded brackets to evacuating a crew member through the hatch looks very suspicious. Why wouldn't the cameraman step back and carefully film the very "pulp"? And it would be nice to look at the metadata of the source code...
  28. Vitaly Grezin
    Vitaly Grezin 11 December 2022 12: 07
    0
    Who said that the hatch in the tank cannot be welded due to its large thickness? It doesn't have to be full thickness. And if you boil it to its full thickness, then no grenade will help. The detonation of ammunition will help. If the crew is after, this will survive.
    1. aglet
      aglet 12 December 2022 13: 19
      +1
      "Who said that a hatch in a tank cannot be welded because of its great thickness?"
      it's not about that. it's not about the thickness, armored, alloyed steel is poorly cooked by simple electric welding, not connecting in the melt with the electrode material. what appears to be welded can fall off on its own without any load
  29. Oleg Ogorod
    Oleg Ogorod 11 December 2022 12: 10
    -6
    1. Khodakovsky did not see it himself, he honestly said that he had heard such a bike somewhere.
    2. What is the point of brewing? If the tank leaves and can calmly surrender? Maybe go to a village where there are neither whites nor reds, and there the local blacksmith will forge them?
    3. As already mentioned, welding a hatch at the bottom in a field is simply not realistic, and in the field you also need equipment for welding.
    4. Tankers will sit dutifully in a tank filled with fuel and full ammunition, and watch how they are brewed? Push and push, turn the turret and shoot. Or they didn’t even load shells, and they didn’t fill it with fuel, and in general they welded the tower so that they wouldn’t shoot at the sides, and they pushed the gag into the cannon.
    5. I remember how long they talked about the crucified boy on the main channels of the country, and then it finally turned out that this was a dream of a not quite sane woman.
    Why is our propaganda better than Ukrainian?
    In 2014, a talking helmet stuck out on Ukrainian TVs and talked about the victories of the Ukrainian troops and how many Russian paratrooper divisions they put in the Donbass. Now we have talking glasses. And the Department of Defense holds the Minister of Defense's working meeting like a festive concert, with a screen on a huge wall, with a palisade of festive banners, carefully decorated, in comfortable chairs from the stage at a huge table. Just sur...
    And if you remember the recent show-exhibition "Support Donbass"... they showed it on TV, and then they themselves were frightened by what they saw... from PR during the plague. And they didn't show it again.
    1. Sergey3
      Sergey3 11 December 2022 13: 43
      +7
      You know, during the fighting it is difficult to surrender on a tank, first they will bang him from a howitzer or a grenade launcher, and then they will start to figure out what he was doing here.
      1. Oleg Ogorod
        Oleg Ogorod 11 December 2022 15: 16
        +1
        I drove into a ravine, buried my cannon in the ground. And wait until you are taken prisoner.
        1. Sancho_SP
          Sancho_SP 11 December 2022 19: 41
          -1
          You can stand for a long time, but in a tank, the main thing is you know what ...
  30. Dmitry Pavlov_2
    Dmitry Pavlov_2 11 December 2022 12: 12
    0
    Well, they saved him - he will get fat and trample against us again.
  31. belost79
    belost79 11 December 2022 12: 22
    +9
    And why welded only hatches? It was also necessary to weld the cannon so that they would not take it into their heads to shoot at their own. And smash the viewing devices so that they would not be crushed by their caterpillars. Oh, those propagandists sitting in warm offices
    1. alexey alexeyev_2
      alexey alexeyev_2 11 December 2022 12: 32
      +2
      And why didn’t they show how the lower hatch was brewed
  32. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 11 December 2022 12: 31
    -12
    Kizdёsh!!! You can’t just open the metal of the tower when welding. And then with a crowbar and a sledgehammer.
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 11 December 2022 19: 43
      +2
      What's embarrassing? When talking about the difficulty of welding armor, we usually talk about the difficulty of obtaining a seam of the strength of the armor itself. And “to give a shit so that it doesn’t fall” is fashionable and fittings for cast iron, there would be a desire.
  33. Tank destroyerSU-100
    Tank destroyerSU-100 11 December 2022 12: 40
    0
    Now khokhlobots will run into all channels and start squealing that this is a lie.
  34. Tank destroyerSU-100
    Tank destroyerSU-100 11 December 2022 12: 43
    0
    Quote: alexey alexeyev_2
    Kizdёsh!!! You can’t just open the metal of the tower when welding. And then with a crowbar and a sledgehammer.

    I haven’t read the comments yet when I wrote my comment, and already the Hohlobot galloped up and splattered with feces in a rage that this couldn’t be.
    Squeal-squeal. The further, the more such videos will appear.
  35. Roman Efremov
    Roman Efremov 11 December 2022 12: 56
    +1
    Quote: Esso
    Quote: Roman Efremov
    The lower hatch will remain in any way - they are unlikely to brew there.

    and the lower ones are welded. Already checked.

    On this view, I did not see that the bottom was checked.
  36. Anton Limonov
    Anton Limonov 11 December 2022 12: 56
    +8
    They would record a video for an hour, with negotiations before, with a full display of the entire crew and their faces at the time of surrender, interrogation after about how they were forced. In fact, for 2 seconds, a body without a face crawls out in complete silence. It is sad to look at such a level of fakes and your reaction here, they have fallen to the level of Ukrainians, what will happen next
    1. The collective farm is voluntary.
      The collective farm is voluntary. 11 December 2022 13: 35
      +2
      Strongly patriotism beats in the head, like hormones to dogs during the period of "dog weddings." Ready to believe complete nonsense.
      Further, only versions about kamikaze pilots in Tochki-U, specially cut off legs so as not to give out felt boots, and of course, cannibalism.
  37. tralmaster
    tralmaster 11 December 2022 13: 21
    0
    As I understand it, sheds, it is fashionable to weld all sorts of gratings on top and sides, but for some reason the hatch cannot be welded. Based on the video, wai l is generally an ignoramus.
  38. Alexander Vorontsov
    Alexander Vorontsov 11 December 2022 13: 38
    -2
    I have no words...
    I caught myself thinking that there was a familiar but forgotten feeling, like in childhood after watching the introductory video for a new series of X-Files, and then there should be an intro...

    And then Fox Mulder and Danna Scully will have to solve the riddle... who... how... and why...
    It turns out that the entire crew remembers the last thing - how they ate dinner at home with their families. And then the bases .. and now they are already in the field inside the tank.
    And the mechanic driver is generally rooted into the body ...
  39. Illanatol
    Illanatol 11 December 2022 13: 40
    -4
    Quote: svp67
    This is a T-72, it also has a hatch for ejecting spent pallets, you can’t weld it, otherwise the tank will not be able to shoot from a cannon, what’s wrong with it?



    So, the penalty boxers were put into the tank ("the demons walled up!") and sent to the front line. And they are there, like partisans, fighting alone? No control over their actions? An attempt to get out of the tank, even if it is possible, will not be stopped?
    In order to leave the tank, you must at least stop it. Or is it possible to get out of the hatches while moving, and even under possible enemy fire? And the stop of the tank (in order to leave) - can you fix it? And punish the crew by dropping the "present" from the drone, for example?
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 11 December 2022 19: 51
      -1
      Actually, it's quite difficult. It's not World of Tanks.
  40. Illanatol
    Illanatol 11 December 2022 13: 44
    -3
    Quote: belost79
    And why welded only hatches? It was also necessary to weld the cannon so that they would not take it into their heads to shoot at their own. And smash the viewing devices so that they would not be crushed by their caterpillars. Oh, those propagandists sitting in warm offices


    But didn’t it occur to you that these tankers might have relatives in the rear? Maybe life is not dear to the tankers themselves, but what would the SBU do with the relatives of the rebels after this?
    The history of penalty boxes did not start yesterday. But do you know many cases of riots by penal units?
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 11 December 2022 19: 51
      +1
      And then why would it be something to brew?
      1. Illanatol
        Illanatol 12 December 2022 09: 00
        -3
        And not to give up at the first opportunity.
        How to make it clear to the enemy that you want to surrender if you are immured in a tank?
        So - stopped the tank, got out, raised his hands - everything is clear with you.
        What if you can't? On the radio? What if they don't believe? Like, the Ukrainians are going for a trick, they want to get closer, and then fire a shell ...

        Well, the fathers-commanders argue in their own way: "Did you want to surrender to the Muscovites? But let the Muscovites themselves bang you. A lesson to the rest."
        Quite fluffy.
  41. km-21
    km-21 11 December 2022 14: 00
    +1
    Welding hatches in no way contributes to increasing the morale of the crew and its combat capability. This only contributes to the death of the crew in situations that leave hope for salvation. Therefore, I would not try to accuse the enemy of excessive idiocy. Still, the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the moment have proven their ability to fight more or less adequately. So why should we deceive ourselves?

    In addition, the brewing procedure is not entirely clear. Imagine a tank unit ready to attack. The commander collects the crews and sets the task. Then the car team. And then the technical team should go around the starting position and search with a welding arc in order to completely unmask the impending attack. Especially at night (and the days are short now) under the supervision of enemy quadcopters. This is fine?

    The procedure for opening such a tank is even more incomprehensible. You can't fool her on the battlefield under fire. This means that the enemy tank should drive into the depths of our position, where it will be quieter. And if no one knows the real intentions of this tank, then who will let it through there?
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 11 December 2022 19: 54
      -2
      Well, logically, all hatches are welded except for one or two, and the ears of the barn lock are welded onto the rest.
      1. aglet
        aglet 12 December 2022 13: 27
        0
        "Well, logically they are brewed"
        your logic is somehow ... perverted
  42. Reindeer
    Reindeer 11 December 2022 14: 10
    -1
    Was initially skeptical about the welded hatches story; this video adds a lot to her credibility. Although it may also turn out to be a fake, at the moment I am inclined to believe it (history) :)
  43. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 11 December 2022 14: 45
    +1
    I don’t understand anything, either lies, or Ukrainians are even dumber than I think about them. How can you weld something to the rhone in the field? Which one will fight for those who send him to his death?
    1. Yaroslav Tekkel
      Yaroslav Tekkel 12 December 2022 20: 15
      +1
      Do you think they are very stupid? Let me remind you that we have been fighting with them for nine months and are surrendering cities, mobilization was needed. If we mess around with stupid people for so long, maybe we ourselves are not very smart? Well, except for you. You need to go to the General Staff.
  44. Vic111
    Vic111 11 December 2022 14: 48
    -2
    I suggest that all those who have doubts personally apply first to the SBU, then to the RF Ministry of Defense and request documentary evidence. Success guaranteed!!!
    For people with critical thinking, I suggest stocking up on Omeprazole to avoid heartburn.
    PS Doctor Komarovsky can clean up the brain. Expensive!
  45. Vic111
    Vic111 11 December 2022 14: 55
    +3
    By the way, in one of the discussion threads about non-brewing tea, I also came across a very interesting knowledge of the history of the Berlin operation. As a memento, "The Nazis drowned the inhabitants and handed out grenades to children." Yes, the metro was flooded, but its level in Berlin is like underground passages in Moscow. And about German grenades, I want to ask: Son, did you hold a German grenade in your hands? Do you know her weight? Did he at least throw the RGD-shku?
    In short - PNH.
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 11 December 2022 19: 59
      -2
      What's wrong with these stories? You can also drown the crossing if the exits are blocked. Yes, and grenades all weigh about half a kilo, both ours and theirs. Can a child throw half a kilo? Maybe. And the fact that it is not far is a question of how close it will be necessary to approach. Actually, in this issue lies the cannibalistic nuance.

      So here. Can the hatch be sealed? Can. But will there be a result and what is the question.
  46. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 11 December 2022 15: 05
    0
    Quote from RVA
    What about admitting it? This video in this quality with a jumping picture proves little!

    without confirming the record and without refuting it .... I'll ask - what quality of vidos from the DB line do you expect))) BluRay or HD ????
    1. seal78
      seal78 11 December 2022 19: 13
      -1
      What a blur, hd, this is the century before last. A minimum of 8K is necessary so that the welds can be properly seen)
  47. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 11 December 2022 15: 08
    -3
    What kind of sheep you need to be in order to fight for those who welded hatches for you and not against them.
  48. solar
    solar 11 December 2022 15: 14
    +3
    Those who brewed - people are very tactful, they arched the jumper on the hatch strictly to the dimensions of the mount. They would have had to suffer, but it easily crawled up.
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 11 December 2022 20: 01
      0
      Well, in general, the very fact of the presence of a jumper suggests the possibility of its easy removal, regardless of who welded it.
      1. solar
        solar 11 December 2022 22: 50
        -5
        the very fact of the presence of a jumper suggests the possibility of its easy removal

        and how did you come to that conclusion?
        1. Sancho_SP
          Sancho_SP 12 December 2022 02: 08
          +3
          Because it is easy to remove. Tightly, I would immediately foul the joint at maximum current, so as not to look for the jumper.
          1. solar
            solar 12 December 2022 09: 55
            -2
            Because it is easy to remove.

            Here I am about the same
            Those who brewed - people are very tactful, they arched the jumper on the hatch strictly to the dimensions of the mount. They would have had to suffer, but it easily crawled up.
            1. Sancho_SP
              Sancho_SP 12 December 2022 10: 58
              0
              Well, I say that they did it on purpose, because they planned to open it later. Which is quite logical if it was filmed as a fake so as not to spoil the tank, and if the forelocks were really brewed (again, so as not to spoil the tank).
            2. Ovsigovets
              Ovsigovets 13 December 2022 00: 04
              0
              this suggests that a return after shooting the BC in battle is possible and no more .... not quite suicide bombers))) just so that they don’t drape through the hatches ... motivation to survive in battle
  49. Oleg Ogorod
    Oleg Ogorod 11 December 2022 15: 45
    0
    How can the Ukrainians-Bandera be defeated here, when there are such propagandists in the country? Sofa warriors for a certain bribe. They will not go to the front unequivocally, the officials will smear them off, they say we need such people on the ideological front. Their own boys.
    Coming up with moronic stories is not a modern weapon to create. And don't fight. And don't work.
    The site has become a dumping ground for stupid and lazy propagandists.
  50. Mint Gingerbread
    Mint Gingerbread 11 December 2022 16: 02
    0
    It is possible to assume that somewhere in some kind of regiment there is some mentally ill person who welded the hatch. But this does not mean that hatches are being welded for everyone en masse. laughing
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 11 December 2022 20: 02
      0
      Well, this is one example, that's right. But we are discussing here the fundamental question of truth)