BOD "Admiral Vinogradov" will return to combat duty in a new capacity and, probably, with hypersonic missiles "Zirkon"

A large anti-submarine ship (BPK) of project 1155 "Admiral Vinogradov" served in the Soviet Union. The ship was launched in June 1987, and in May 1989 was commissioned into the Pacific fleet THE USSR.

BOD "Admiral Vinogradov" spent a lot of time in sea voyages and took part in many combat and training operations.

In 2021, the ship was sent for repair and modernization to Vladivostok.

As transmits TASS, citing sources in the military-industrial complex, "Admiral Vinogradov" will return to service as a frigate with increased strike capabilities. The return of the ship to the fleet is planned for 2024-2025.

Sources of the publication also said that the Admiral Vinogradov will be equipped with Caliber-NK cruise missiles and, probably, Zircon hypersonic missiles.

It is also planned to equip the vessel with Onyx supersonic anti-ship missiles and Uran subsonic small-sized missiles.

Before the repair and modernization, Admiral Vinogradov was armed with Rastrub torpedo missiles, Kinzhal air defense systems, 53-65K and SET-65 torpedoes, and more.

It is also reported that the modernization of the Project 1155 (M) BOD into frigates will continue. And there are five more ships in line. Recall that the frigate Marshal Shaposhnikov has already gone through this process.

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[Battle Toads]

The Special Military Operation showed how timely the President's move was in stepping up efforts to develop hypersonic weapons.

Thanks to this move, the maximum that NATO is now capable of is to watch everything from the outside, pouring mercenaries and weapons into the Ukrainian cauldron for the sake of decency.

[WILL]

[quote = BattleToads] The Special Military Operation showed how timely the President's move was in stepping up efforts to develop hypersonic weapons.
On the second "Chechnya" I believed the President that somehow they gathered fifty thousand Fighters (from the world by thread ... army, navy, sobry, riot police, Fsinovtsy). Then he believed that the army and navy were very seriously modernized. I've seen it since February. Now what to believe? Rockets are amazing! Maybe it's time to upgrade the command?

[poquello]

Quote: ANIMAL

On the second "Chechnya" I believed the President that somehow they gathered fifty thousand Fighters (from the world by thread ... army, naval, sobry, riot police, Fsinovtsy

did he tell you in secret?

[Lykases1]

Sorry to interrupt, but he seemed to be saying something on the show. Everyone. That they decided to bring in 60 from a million-strong army, but there was no one to bring in.

[poquello]

Quote: Lykases1

Sorry to interrupt, but he seemed to be saying something on the show.

like, somewhere, somehow, in what program? and about that? "somehow they collected it from the world by a thread" how is it?
Shamanov was given Fsinovtsy in the Airborne Forces? or Troshev riot police?

[Lykases1]

Did you live in those years? Have you heard about the united grouping of troops in the North Caucasus? And when Troshev was in command, he commanded, including OMON. Like Baranov and Moltenskoy. And at the expense of the transfer - it was also about what was needed. If interested - Yandex to help. I've seen her before, I'm not interested. I just read the comment and remembered that I saw such a program. Something like this

[poquello]

Quote: Lykases1

Have you heard about the united grouping of troops in the North Caucasus? And when Troshev was in command, he commanded, including OMON.

) there were three groups, one of them was commanded by Troshev, the OMON of the Ministry of Internal Affairs went there on business trips, and VV held the border

Quote: Lykases1

she was about what you need. If interested - Yandex to help.

well, I'll go look) "about what you need", should I type it in Yandex like that?

[poquello]

Quote: Lykases1

And at the expense of the transfer - it was also about what was needed. If interested - Yandex to help. I've seen her before, I'm not interested.

don’t tryndit, because it’s not located along such muddy landmarks, well, to the heap
"as of December 1, 1999, the strength of the federal forces, taking into account the internal troops and the police, was approaching 150 thousand"
Roy Medvedev "Vladimir Putin"

[Denis812]

Not entirely true, Kazantsev was in command, and then Troshev. All these explosives and riot police of the Ministry of Internal Affairs were also in the wings, although formally others had hands.
Personally, I participated from the operas of Vorkuta under the flag of the Syktyvkar OMON, and performed tasks with everyone in a row, where they were assigned. For example, from 33 armored. Which, by the way, explosives, and according to your words, the type held the border. Well, maybe she did, if the border was in the Minutka area.

[ilya.muromczev2013]

... "I believed that the army and navy were modernized" .... And why did you "disbelieve" so much? Before Putin, we had neither an army nor a navy AT ALL. Only in the last 10 years (after the war with Georgia) the army began to revive. Have you by any chance forgotten that the Russian army is not only guns, tanks, machine guns, but also a nuclear component, which takes the lion's share of the money allocated for the military budget? Now we have quite a second army in the world. Maybe , stop whining already, to the delight of the Maidan horses, and their owners? A) ...

[2 Level Advisor]

And in the Chechen ones - didn’t the army-militia win? yes, according to your manual, Russia generally rests on Putin .. but in view of the fact that the design is unreliable, it will die anyway, you can’t trample against nature, but you’re not young anymore .. so .. have you outlined a relocation plan? after all, without GDP, the end of Russia in your opinion? obsequiously stand up or fall on your face - when is it shown on TV? The Russian Federation is armed with 90% weapons produced or developed back in the USSR .. but it has passed .. oh .. 30 years since then .. it’s like the army of the USSR would have been armed in the 80s with weapons of the 50s ..

[Lech from Android.]

Now an anti-submarine ship is jamming enemy submarines with Zircons ... with such a strike weapon, it will already perform other functions, however.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Probably, it will still be, I think that the UKKS are mostly under rocket-torpedoes. Calibers / zircons - as extra. option.

[22 dmdc]

If you read carefully, you will notice that the Admiral Vinogradov BOD is being modernized according to the frigate project and, accordingly, will move from anti-submarine to a subclass of missile and artillery ships.

[bayard]

Quote: 22 dmdc

BOD "Admiral Vinogradov" is being modernized according to the frigate project and, accordingly, will move from anti-submarine to a subclass of missile and artillery ships.

And what are the functions of a frigate?
Convoy, reconnaissance and, of course, anti-submarine.
Or will "Polynomial" be removed from him? But this is his main weapon, like a BOD. Instead of "Trumpet" or "Waterfall" there will be PLUR "Answer".
Moreover, at Vinogradov they plan to install not two, but 4 UKKS for 32 cells. So there is enough space for the PLUR, and for the Caliber CRBD and for the Zircons (or Onyxes). And for less priority purposes, there are 4 more launchers for 4 X-35 anti-ship missiles. And two anti-submarine helicopters.
And the conversion of the ship to the category of "frigates" ... well, that's the fashion now. Moreover, the ship ceases to be a highly specialized anti-submarine and acquires universal abilities.

[Sergey39]

You are so smart!
Tell us how the Zircons will jam the submarines?

[Geniy ​​yev]

But a couple of such ships can easily nullify a US Navy aircraft carrier strike group, and they won’t blink an eye.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Geniy ​​Yev

But a couple of such ships can easily reset the US Navy aircraft carrier strike group

Why so many? One "Rook" is more than enough

[Sergey39]

And why Rook, you can throw stones from a six-oared yal.

[Vadim Zhivov]

There is nothing about air defense in the article
And how to do without it

[Beregovic_1]

Most likely the same "dagger" will remain. Possibly upgraded. "Polyment with a redoubt" will not be installed, because the CICS will also need to be changed, and the mast too. Under the "calm" you need to arrange the nuts, that is, strongly redesign. So the air defense is unchanged.

[Vadim Zhivov]

Thank you. I'm not a sailor but I'm one of those who are very interested. Thanks again

[Sergey39]

It is unlikely that Poliment or Poliment-Redoubt will be installed.
At best, a modernized Shtil1.
And, can strike weapons be shuffled, unlike Shaposhnikov?
Everyone writes in the comments about Zircons, UKKS 3S14 is universal and different CDs fit into it!

[bayard]

Quote: Sergey39

It is unlikely that Poliment or Poliment-Redoubt will be installed.
At best, a modernized Shtil1.

On the factory stand \ poster "Calm" is indicated, but with the preservation of part of the "Dagger" launcher.

[Andy_nsk]

Yes, the short-range air defense system (up to 12 km) - the marine analogue of the "Tor" for a ship of this class - looks rather weak, it will not prevent him from driving submarines, but he is practically defenseless against aviation or missile attack.

[39GB]

Quote: Geniy ​​Yev

But a couple of such ships can easily nullify a US Navy aircraft carrier strike group, and they won’t blink an eye.

So far, they have reset "Moscow" and "Saratov".

[Sergey39]

What did you mean? About your competence or "love" for the Motherland?

[rusmor55]

A great achievement is to "zero out" the BDK pr.1171, converted from a timber carrier and having a 57mm fly swatter and "Moskva" on board, according to its air defense characteristics of a ship of the 80s !.

[Osipov9391]

"Baton" with "Granites" will do this faster if its crew is able to quietly approach the AUG at a distance of 150-200 km.
Unless, of course, as carefully as possible and do not stumble upon security submarines.
If a salvo of 35-40 missiles is immediately fired by a couple of submarines, even better.
It is more likely that at least a few missiles will break through the defenses and hit the aircraft carrier.

All other carriers are not considered even theoretically - Hawkeye will detect them.
They will raise a squadron of "Hornets" and fire any surface ship with "Harpoons".
Even such cruisers as "Orlan" are unrealistic to fight back.

[Sergey39]

You are a real strategist!
Yes, it’s not necessary to graduate from the General Staff Academy !!!

[KCA]

I don’t know how to draw a whole post, and I’m too lazy, I just read that the Yak-52 jumped on the take-off with the APD-500 engine, this is from the Aurus project, which some liberals believe is a Porsche, although it was developed by US and Porsche was called to do it in hardware, they did it, and left, but in the program of aircraft engines, as far as I read, from 500 to 2600 HP, the first one jumped, we are waiting for heavy UAVs with it

[TermNachTer]

I hope that the volume of upgrades on it will be greater than on the Shapka, with a corresponding increase in combat capabilities.

[Monster_Fat]

Strike capabilities will increase ... But this, as it were, is not the main thing. As the SVO showed, air defense and anti-aircraft defense come to the fore. And with this, the carablic is completely sad - at the level of the 80s of the last century. Now it is necessary to build not so many ships of the classical type, but combat platforms with a displacement of at least 20000-25000 tons, saturated with drones, air defense, anti-aircraft defense of various types for different lines of defense. And with a reservation, of course. The classic fleet is outdated.

[TermNachTer]

The issues of development and construction, both of the armed forces as a whole and of the fleet, are a complex and lengthy process. Yes, the air defense at Project 1155 is weak, but they were designed and built that way. However, thanks to modern missiles and radars, its air defense can also be "pulled up" to a completely acceptable level.

[bayard]

Quote: TermNachTER

its air defense can also be "pulled up" to a completely acceptable level.

And they will pull it up - launchers of the "Shtil" air defense system will appear on the waist, and the "Dagger" launchers will remain in the nose. The number of cells in 4 UKKS will already be 32 pcs. , which will balance the composition of weapons - shock and anti-submarine. The number of Kh-35 anti-ship missile launchers will also double - up to 4 launchers, 4 missiles each. It is possible that the old TAs will also be changed to the new "Package-NK".

[Battle Toads]

[/quote] now what to believe? Rockets are amazing! Maybe it's time to upgrade the command? [/ Quote]


And this is not a religion to believe or not to believe, It is enough to study the materiel. As for the modernization of the command, it’s up to the leadership to decide

[WILL]

Quote from BattleToads

And this is not a religion to believe or not to believe, It is enough to study the materiel. As for the modernization of the command, it’s up to the leadership to decide

Yes, it’s clear, but there are no innocent people in the war? Who designed the operations? Who is responsible for the losses? Why didn't they take volunteers and suddenly announced a partial mobilization in eight months? What about our videoconferencing? What about the Cruiser native (Moscow) Yes, a lot of questions to be honest.

[lucul]

What about our videoconferencing? What about Cruiser native (Moscow) Yes, a lot of questions to be honest.

You, in everyday life, have solved all the problems that you cannot live, how is it necessary to demand an answer from the Supreme?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: lucul

What about our videoconferencing? What about Cruiser native (Moscow) Yes, a lot of questions to be honest.

You, in everyday life, have solved all the problems that you cannot live, how is it necessary to demand an answer from the Supreme?

Greetings . Unfortunately, in everyday life, many problems arise due to various political events. And now many people have problems. And in everyday life too ... It is clear the war .. Someone has children in the war, husbands. grandchildren. friends . Much has changed in our lives. Many are on the wrong side. And yes, everyone is on edge. are experiencing. While victorious messages are not enough. People are worried. They express their opinions. This is normal. And they have the right to demand correct actions from the government from their point of view. There will be no Russia without Victory .. Maybe such a small one around Moscow will survive ... flawed .. So we need Victory! .

[lucul]

This is fine . And they have the right to demand correct actions from the government from their point of view. There will be no Russia without Victory .. Maybe such a small one around Moscow will survive ... flawed .. So we need Victory!

No, I understand everything, but their "crying of Yaroslavna" is akin to crying, as if ours, after Operation Bagration in 1944, would begin to moan and howl about the losses of 1941, they say they surrendered Minsk in a couple of days and so on ...., questions to ask Stalin about 1941, and not continue to push the enemy.

[Dingo]

Yes, a lot of questions to be honest.

And you don't have one. "Moskva" ... an attack on the airfield in Novofedorovka ... an attack on headquarters ... an attack on the port ... Lose several ships without engaging in hostilities ... How much more this "commander" had to mow in order to "kicked"? And - it is not known whether they kicked? There are no answers.

[Amateur]

The return of the ship to the fleet is planned for 2024-2025.

Old Soviet joke:

The object will be put into operation ahead of schedule by December 29. We will clarify the five-year plan in working order

[tralflot1832]

It is a pity that over time they will go to the needles of the BOD. Its silhouette on the horizon cannot be confused with anyone. You can immediately see our whole silhouette showed speed and power. Now the time has come for others.

[Battle Toads]

Quote: ANIMAL

Quote from BattleToads

And this is not a religion to believe or not to believe, It is enough to study the materiel. As for the modernization of the command, it’s up to the leadership to decide

Yes, it’s clear, but there are no innocent people in the war? Who designed the operations? Who is responsible for the losses? Why didn't they take volunteers and suddenly announced a partial mobilization in eight months? What about our videoconferencing? Yes, a lot of questions to be honest.

No questions, just suggestions! It's much more efficient

[Normann]

much more efficient

this is when these proposals are listened to.

[Beregovic_1]

People work. The whole cuisine is not known to the general public, but if you delve into the subject, you can see a lot. And the theory of the use of weapons is being developed (I read periodically), and R & D, R & D are being carried out. Weapon testing again. In the industry, import substitution is underway. They change equipment suppliers, the machine park is changed to domestic. Domestic analogues are being developed. There are also changes in the legislation: billions were fined for the failure of the defense order before, and now you can sit down for 8 years. There is still a lot of gouging, but to say that everything is lost is also impossible.

[rusmor55]

Good news, but we still have 3-4 BPCs in line. Only Note: "in 2021 the SHIP was sent for repairs" ... just don't call the SHIP a ship, the ear hurts a lot. If you are already writing about the fleet, use the rules adopted in the Navy: a ship is a military one, a ship is a civilian one!

[Igor Borisov_2]

But in general, the SSV is a military communications ship

[Dmitry Tsarevich]

A handsome ship, I hope after modernization it will still serve its Motherland and its people.

[Vladimir80]

if they write the term 24-25, then really not earlier than 26-27. - and there, as in a fairy tale "either the donkey dies, or the padishah ..." - in the sense of whether these modernizations will be relevant in 5 years, even if they are completed ...

[Sergey39]

Any ship or boat that gets up to mordenize has problems after a bowel movement and a shift to the right is a common practice!
We gained experience on Shapka, it will be easier to finish the whole series !!!

[solar]

The return of the ship to the fleet is planned for 2024-2025.

Feel free to add +5.
The question arises - what will really be the possibilities at that time for an anti-submarine ship, the project of which was developed 50 years ago and built 40 years ago, with symbolic air defense?

[Introvert]

Well, what ... Approximately almost like in a song: Suddenly a magician in a blue F-16 will fly in and SUDDENLY (for the crew) will give 2 LRASMs (well, or other modern stealths) on board. With such air defense on board, most likely the missiles will be detected either at the minimum distance available for attack or upon arrival. Moreover, the same attacking aircraft may also remain undetected by both the 4th generation and the F-35. Given the range of the air defense system, they can generally dunk in shit by throwing off a few planning ABs and gaining altitude to take a couple of beautiful pictures for themselves.

[Sergey39]

You, a pessimist who does not know AMD, ships rarely go on a single trip.
There is a KUG, depending on its tasks and the composition of the group. Plus they cover the submarine.

[Introvert]

Quote: Sergey39

You, a pessimist who does not know AMD, ships rarely go on a single trip.
There is a KUG, depending on its tasks and the composition of the group. Plus they cover the submarine.

I am a realist))) who knows what ships and WHAT age are in service))) So even the KUG is practically defenseless, especially NEW ships. The only adequate project 22350 is available in the amount of 2 pieces, and those are at the stage of testing systems, and even the number of missiles that they have on board is only enough for self-defense and not for performing the function of a missile defense / air defense ship. I neighed from the submarines, enlighten me, maybe I missed something and they have already screwed the radar and launchers of air defense systems?))) So excuse me, it's better to be a pessimist than to catch anti-ship missiles with nets with cries of cheers.)))

[Dingo]

with symbolic air defense?

Apparently, the fate of “Moscow” has not taught anything.
"Running on a rake" - what is this, entertainment? And further. from the next branch. "The Russian fleet is the only fleet in the world that does not have UAVs on board its ships ...".

[D-Master]

What Soviet BODs are beautiful. The contours are swift, the forms are chopped - you can’t take your eyes off.

[Egeny]

The return of the ship to the fleet is planned for 2024-2025.

This makes me happy. But I wonder if "Moscow" will be raised and restored?
Has she been forgotten? A beautiful cruiser ... a pity.

[Osipov9391]

They have long wanted to write it off and make a museum in Sevastopol.
No one will lift it - it broke into pieces during flooding.

And here is another such new but not completed one was at the shipyard in Nikolaev.

[Sergey39]

Moscow yesterday!
According to plans, frigates 22350 Kapitanets and Vysotsky will leave for the Black Sea Fleet in the second half of this decade, if they do not change plans.
Building a fleet is an expensive and lengthy program.

[oldman.]

It is also planned to equip the vessel...

Well, another victim of the Unified State Examination began to write something about warships.
Interestingly, the moderators of "VO" are also from the USE clan, since they miss this?

[Egeny]

Quote: Osipov9391

And here is another such new but not completed one was at the shipyard in Nikolaev.

Hello. must be taken.)

[Egeny]

Quote from Egeni

Has she been forgotten?

Well, what is so offensive in my comment? ... there was one, minus, enemy.