President of the Russian Federation: If we are talking about a disarming strike, the concept of which the United States has, then we can think about it

During the press conference of the President of Russia, who is on a visit to the capital of Kyrgyzstan, the issue of the nuclear doctrine of the Russian Federation was raised. Recall that at the moment the nuclear doctrine provides for the presence of nuclear weapons, in fact, exclusively as a deterrent. The use of a nuclear arsenal prescribed in the doctrine is as a response action, including as a response to such enemy actions that aim to make the use of nuclear weapons itself impossible.

Answering a question from one of the journalists, Vladimir Putin noted that the concept of a preventive, disarming nuclear strike could also be considered.

According to the Russian president, this option is clearly spelled out in the American doctrine, and therefore nothing prevents Russia from "taking the achievements of American partners and using their ideas to ensure their own security."

Vladimir Putin:

We think about it. After all, no one is embarrassed when they spoke about it aloud in previous years.

In the Western press, this was immediately interpreted as "a signal from Putin to change the Russian nuclear doctrine." Even more excitement was caused by the statements of the head of the Russian state in Ukraine, where representatives of the Kyiv regime have already called the words of the Russian president “threatening” and traditionally called on the “international community” to respond. React to what? To the words about the readiness to think about what has already been implemented in the United States? Or is it only the United States that can have a doctrine in which the country's security is based on the possibility of delivering a disarming nuclear strike?

Comments

[Damir Shamaev]

Thanks to Putin, he reassured me, like we can launch a nuclear strike only in response, which means we will certainly get a nuclear warhead, but we will answer uuuuuuhhh.
It turns out that if they don’t throw a nuclear bomb on us, then we can’t even use it. Here I calmed down so calmed down.

[Godzila]

Quote: Damir Shamaev

It turns out that if they don’t throw a nuclear bomb on us, then we can’t even use it. So calmed down so calmed down

You didn’t understand anything in the sarcasm of our GDP ...
Watch "Putin's cartoons" and you will understand a lot in the current situation .. Russia does not threaten, but takes its historical property and the predatory world order (after the collapse of the USSR) We will change and have already changed.
And everything else is trifles!
Without Russia, there will be no peace Understand this at last and it is very dangerous to make us angry, for all the townsfolk and other Western mongrels.
It's only the beginning !

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

In your opinion, Russia is the most excitable state in history.

The US chose to draw the Korean War to a bloody draw and ignominiously lose Vietnam rather than use atomic weapons (which the generals begged for). The USSR preferred to lose in Afghanistan, but not to use atomic weapons (although there just a few atomic bombs could change, if not the course, then the nature of the war with a minimum of civilian casualties). China chose to bashfully retreat from all the same Vietnam, but not to use atomic weapons. Britain chose to risk the entire fleet, but not to use atomic weapons. Israel in 1973 threw the last reserves into battle, and everything hung in the balance, but it did not use atomic weapons either. South Africa generally went to the self-destruction of the regime, but did not use atomic weapons. And only the Russian Federation has such hot blood that a military failure inevitably leads to "the whole world is in ruins."

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel

The United States chose to draw the war in Korea to a bloody draw and shamefully lose Vietnam,

Well, why pretend to be a log, because already a big boy then. The US wars in Korea and Vietnam, and the USSR in Afghanistan and further down the list ..... these are not wars for the existence of countries in this world. NWO is a war with NATO on the territory of Ukraine, for the existence of Russia. Do we understand the difference or will we ....... pretend to be?

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Moreover, NATO itself declares that HIMARS were specially redesigned so that they could not fire at the territory of Russia even by chance. In response, Russia declares that the appearance of NATO 180 km from St. Petersburg does not threaten it in any way. It's a fight not for life but for death.

[poquello]

Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel

In your opinion, Russia is the most excitable state in history.

Why are you stupid, such bourgeois children, does the phrase "Sarmatian went on combat duty" mean anything to you? No one will turn off the early warning system for the sake of this SVO, and as soon as it considers a dozen missiles on the territory of the Russian Federation, neither the United States nor NATO will be a missile attack

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

No one will turn off the early warning system for the sake of this SVO, and as soon as it considers a dozen missiles on the territory of the Russian Federation, neither the United States nor NATO will be a missile attack

No, those Cold War spells don't work. Our strategic bombers take to the air every Monday and launch missiles in a westerly direction. During the Cold War, that alone would have been enough to push a button.

[poquello]

Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel

No one will turn off the early warning system for the sake of this SVO, and as soon as it considers a dozen missiles on the territory of the Russian Federation, neither the United States nor NATO will be a missile attack

No, those Cold War spells don't work. Our strategic bombers take to the air every Monday and launch missiles in a westerly direction. During the Cold War, that alone would have been enough to push a button.

people are sitting on the button, and no one will explain to the automation that it is "like dill rockets flying across the territory of the Russian Federation"

[andrey682006]

B-2 and B-1b did not fight in Yugoslavia, Iraq and Afghanistan?
Yes, that was after the Cold War. Well, our strategists attack the Armed Forces of Ukraine after the Cold War.

[Normann]

In this case, there will be no us, and no one else. (

[poquello]

Quote: Normann

In this case, there will be no us, and no one else. (

so the nuclear deterrence factor is based on this

[Pavel57]

Israel was ready to use nuclear weapons,
if he lost the war. The regime in South Africa was eliminated from the outside.

[Incvizitor]

The Russian people will not tolerate a terrorist pseudo-state such as ISIS at hand, Ukraine will not have this formation in any case, with or without Putin.
And after the occupation of the already officially Russian cities, the Russian authorities have the full moral and legal right to use tyao.

[KCA]

What generals dissuaded, can you name them by name? Montgomery, although he was not present there, offered to launch a nuclear strike on North Korea, and strike with cobalt bombs along the entire border with the PRC and the USSR in order to completely cut off the supply of North Korea for 60 years, during the Vietnam War he said - give me 30 atomic bombs and I will grind Vietnam to dust

[stankow]

Maybe you mean gen. Army MacArthur, not Field Marshal Montgomery?

[KCA]

I could have confused it, I wrote from memory, I didn’t go into the search, but the very fact of calling the US Army General for all-out nuclear bombing was the same, but they didn’t pull the president by the scruff of the button

[stankow]

Yes, gen. MacArthur asked the President to launch nuclear strikes on Korea.

[stankow]

In the 73rd, there were no nuclear weapons in Israel yet. And in general, not a single nuclear doctrine of the nuclear countries foresees application if there is no "danger to the existence" of the state. So it is in Russian. What threatened the US and the World Bank if the war was lost thousands of miles from their native shores?

[meandr51]

Ukraine is a quasi-state on the territory of Russia, in which there is a war to destroy Russia and its people. You can only compare with South Africa. But there the government was changed not because of the war. Israel has always had an advantage over its neighbors and the support of the United States, and therefore did not use nuclear weapons. If I were left alone, I would apply without hesitation. If Russia in the war against NATO is supported by the troops of the DPRK and China, then it will not use nuclear weapons either.

[Mwg]

"We'll definitely die; the whole world is in ruins, but then ..."
DMB

[opuonmed]

“The war in Ukraine may get out of control and escalate into a big war between NATO and Russia – but I am sure that we will avoid this” - NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg.

He also added that there is no doubt that a full-scale war is possible.


The United States no longer insists that the Armed Forces of Ukraine not strike at Russian territory, as they are less afraid of an escalation from Moscow, the British newspaper The Times reported.

"We don't tell Kiev, 'Don't hit the Russians [in Russia, specifically in Crimea].' We can't tell them what to do. How they use their weapons is up to them, but when they use weapons provided by us, we only insist that the Ukrainian military follow the international laws of war and abide by the Geneva Conventions,” said the source of the publication in the American defense department. “This is the only restriction, but it implies that Russian families and attempts to eliminate there should also be no specific individuals. As far as we know, Ukraine complies with these conditions."

[meandr51]

The mass shelling of the center of Donetsk does not count.

[Dimgnag]

Russian missiles will reach America faster even after the launch of American ones.

[28st region]

Don't quite understand what's wrong? Explain.
If something global starts, the answer will be in any case. From nuclear submarines, from the remaining ground or underground launchers. But you, me and everyone else will no longer care, like most on the other side.
And it seems to me that this is just paper, the official loud but paper. Under certain circumstances, no one will pay attention to her.

[Battle Toads]

Quote: Damir Shamaev

Thanks to Putin, he reassured me, like we can launch a nuclear strike only in response, which means we will certainly get a nuclear warhead, but we will answer uuuuuuhhh.
It turns out that if they don’t throw a nuclear bomb on us, then we can’t even use it. Here I calmed down so calmed down.

If you reassure every housewife, no Putin will be enough

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from BattleToads

If you reassure every housewife, no Putin will be enough

Indistinct ~ "we were once again deceived, but we will again believe. Hope and wait, wait" will not calm a single housewife. And she's smart enough to understand that it's "nothing".

[Silver99]

Yes, all this chatter (((there is not enough courage to deliver a preemptive strike, all these are words to the public.

[Guran33 Sergey]

Can you explain why the Russian Federation has a nuclear strike on the states? So far, all the "nuclear noise" is being created by journalists, and the can is quietly sitting in the oval office .., That's when the "extra" generals fade out of Europe and the Pentagon is empty, the children of our powers that be "students" will stop communicating there, then the nuclear threat becomes very real

[bk0010]

Quote: Guran33 Sergey

Can you explain why the Russian Federation has a nuclear strike on the states?

To level their military-technical, industrial and mobilization superiority.

[shikin]

And ours too. Or do you think there is no one to "push the button"? There were always enough people who wanted to.
And how do you level all this superiority of a country with a population of 145 million against a bloc with a population of 750 million? And with the corresponding industrial superiority.

[stankow]

And this "bloc", is it burning with the desire to die for the interests of the United States?

[bk0010]

Quote from shikin

And ours too.

It's acceptable

Quote from shikin

And how do you level all this superiority of a country with a population of 145 million against a bloc with a population of 750 million? And with the appropriate industrial excellence

Massive nuclear strikes on military bases, industrial centers, large cities and critical infrastructure.

[Akuzenka]

Just the opposite. The kids stopped getting in touch, "uncles with good intentions" will get in touch and offer to hand over a vigorous arsenal. They will hand over. And they will present it as a discharge. Remember, do not be mentioned MSG by night. As soon as détente began, the country was betrayed and surrendered.

[AAK]

It’s somehow better when there are fewer all sorts of performances, here you need to do the job, because wherever you look, there is a gluteus maximus everywhere ...

[man]

Yes, all this chatter (((there is not enough courage to deliver a preemptive strike, all these are words to the public.
preventive, okay ... I’m afraid that the United States would not understand that they don’t have enough courage even to respond ...

[Al manah]

Of course not enough, no one has the courage to strike at their children / grandchildren / villas that are there.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from Silver99

Yes, all this chatter (((there is not enough courage to deliver a preemptive strike, all these are words to the public.

The public is different. These words are clearly addressed to a specific, target audience, and in the West, which will be hysterical tomorrow from all screens and on all resources.
You need to take a pencil with a piece of paper and simply write down in the morning all those countries that will be among the first to assess the said GDP. They will just be the audience that, in turn, will convey what has been said, in one interpretation or another, to the controlled public.

[meandr51]

Drinking a couple of glasses is enough.

[Battle Toads]

Quote from Silver99

Yes, all this chatter (((there is not enough courage to deliver a preemptive strike, all these are words to the public.

In a previous post I already wrote that it's great that the nuclear suitcase is in the possession of seasoned and responsible people and not in different psychos

[tralflot1832]

Yes, today he managed to troll the United States if they try to deliver a preventive disarming strike. Our early warning system detects missile launches in our direction, hundreds of our missiles immediately take off. Yes, they will arrive a little later, but the result is good for everyone. "START".

[AlexTires]

Our early warning system could not track the launches of two drones from the last century, the nurses were able to until they crashed on the target ...

[tralflot1832]

The early warning system has a completely different detection horizon, learn the materiel. For early warning systems, the earth is not flat, but round.

[lwxx]

Quote: tralflot1832

The early warning system has a completely different detection horizon, learn the materiel. For early warning systems, the earth is not flat, but round.

Never argue with idiots. You will sink to their level, where they will crush you with their experience. Mark Twain

[meandr51]

the Americans did not notice a whole swarm in Saudi Arabia. So, who is the bigger gouging, this is another question.

[solar]

Our early warning system detects missile launches in our direction, hundreds of our missiles immediately take off.

"Immediately" is a loose concept. Do you know the flight time of SLBMs?

[Dimgnag]

They will arrive earlier. For hypersonic.

[former soldier]

and therefore nothing prevents Russia from “taking the achievements of American partners and using their ideas

And here again. "American partners". I have never read that the American State Department wrote "Russian partners".

[petroglyph]

And what's the problem with reading the word partners correctly? I think our president correctly calls them p(artne)rams. P (artne) ry they are the real ones

[Plate]

If he called them "American colleagues", "American pigs", etc., the actual content would not change in any way. So what's the difference?

[NG inform]

The Russian authorities stubbornly refuse to play clowns, which is good news.
On the other hand, they also do not know how to explain the current situation, which is a shame.
And zadolbali with the word "Russophobes" in relation to the Nazis.

[Boa kaa]

We have not been the Soviet Union for a long time ... Therefore, it is not worth dressing up in the old doctrines. It was the USSR that could afford a "retaliatory" nuclear strike against the aggressor. He had a "pink security belt" from the countries of the social community. And in modern Russia, NATO troops are already standing in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. And BSRD launchers in Poland and Romania under the guise of Aegis installations have already been deployed. Therefore, the enemy is so arrogant and does not hide his cannibalistic intentions. With his superiority in conventional weapons, he can no longer resort to nuclear weapons in order to deprive us of the system of state and military administration, to disable up to 70% (their estimates!) of the enemy's strategic nuclear weapons (and not "partners" - how we talk all the time! ). And after all this, we continue to pose "innocence" when we have already been fucked in perverted positions several times in the simulation of all the first operations of the SAC US Armed Forces!
Therefore, it's time to change the leavened peacefulness for a real look at the problem of the initial period of hostilities with the NATO bloc. We will have time to "glazed" them first - we will live. We will not have time - the eternal memory of the heroes. There is no third. The third is to calm especially nervous, exalted ladies from a brothel.
IMHO.

[filibuster]

No middle ground.

Still, as given, to build a normal state with a strong economy, replaced by power, a low level of corruption.

[Boa kaa]

Quote from: filibuster

to build a normal state with a strong economy, changeable government, and a low level of corruption.

Yes, it's the best thing ever! Who is against something??? Here is just one mistake: BABA YAGA - AGAINST!!!
Yes, she also connected the “permanent” KOSHCHEY to the man-made mess on the territory of the BERENDEV kingdom-state, not to mention all sorts of kikimors and swamp creatures (local bottling!) stir up the Orthodox and other citizens of the Berendey kingdom ... and no one is even going to deprive them of their citizenship ... Not beautiful, this is somehow in the opinion of the near boyars ....
In short, not life, but a fairy tale! But the doctrine of the "Trojan horse" Baba Yaga is not going to cancel. And in it, as you know, the main emphasis is on the 5th column and the WTO, and not on the nuclear weapons. Therefore, they can (well, they really hope!) bleed and turn over. And then divide and sell cheaply to the copper mines the remnants of the population.
And our nuclear weapons will never be needed, because. no one has ever done anything like this for us...
Here is such a "fabulous" plan matured in the kingdom of KOSHCHEY ...
And we don't want to tell him that we can "SPUTTER WITH DUST" all his poisonous fly agarics even before he reaches for them...
AHA.

[filibuster]

Yes, it's the best thing ever! Who is against something??? Here is just one mistake: BABA YAGA - AGAINST!!! wassat

Yes, it seems that it is specifically known who rewrote the constitution, who built the vertical, who spread corruption, and we all had it inside Russia.

[Akuzenka]

Sorry, of course, but it was painfully violent you have a fantasy. This does not even come across in alternatives!

[poquello]

Quote: AKuzenka

Sorry, of course, but it was painfully violent you have a fantasy. This does not even come across in alternatives!

Well, how would it be easier to explain to you, a bulk and so forth comes out and says like - we will

Quote from: filibuster

to build a normal state with a strong economy, changeable government, and a low level of corruption.

,
well, is it beautiful? it is necessary that people reach for beauty

[filibuster]

By the way, Navalny, after all, said that Chemezov does not build any "armats", but takes money to foreign accounts, and now it turns out that there is really no "armat", there is no KAZ, there is no UAV and there is no money either.

[poquello]

Quote from: filibuster

By the way, Navalny, after all, said that Chemezov does not build any "armats", but takes money to foreign accounts, and now it turns out that there is really no "armat", there is no KAZ, there is no UAV and there is no money either.

and at the front we have three mobiles with shovels, there are no bullets either

[Akuzenka]

well, is it beautiful? it is necessary that people reach for beauty

Handsomely. Just not feasible. If the oligarchs and capitalists needed a state with a well-fed and motivated population, it would already exist. It is a matter of the survival of the nation. The Russian Federation has everything for this.

[sergo1914]

Quote from: filibuster

No middle ground.

Still, as given, to build a normal state with a strong economy, replaced by power, a low level of corruption.

That's honest. I'm waiting for this New Year "I'm tired, I'm leaving." For it is really clear that he is tired and does not take out. Why cling to the throne like that?

[solar]

And the BSRD launchers in Poland and Romania under the guise of Aegis installations have already been deployed.

Can you name the type of these "BSRD"?

[Disant]

Can you name the type of these "BSRD"?

MK41 launchers allow, in addition to missile defense missiles, to place Tomahawk cruise missiles.

[Boa kaa]

Quote from solar

Can you name the type of these "BSRD"?

Lockheed Martin received an order to develop a full-fledged MRBM project. The work has been carried out since 2020 under the code MRC. The ground launcher was built on the basis of the Mk 41 shipborne firing system. The fire control system uses the hardware and software of the Aegis shipborne information and control system. For the first time this was done in Redzikowo (Poland). The Ax was launched from it, however, only 240 km away.
Among other things, the SM-6 has been modified for a range of up to 1000 km.

[meandr51]

Correctly. As soon as their strategic nuclear forces begin to be put on alert or the troops move up for "exercises", our missiles should already be in orbit. And don't be afraid of them. They must be beaten and beaten to death. Only then will there be a chance to survive. Otherwise they will bite.

[EFIM LYUBIN]

Another blah blah blah on the topic - "we can do this", but we don't want to do it and we won't!! In the Pentagon, everyone ran out of fear to change diapers! The Kremlin will never order a preventive nuclear strike. And in NATO, knowing this very well, they will become impudent more and more! In an old song about the Motherland there are such words - "But we will frown our eyebrows severely, If the enemy wants to break us ..."! Apparently, this is the formidable answer to the West!

[meandr51]

It's fine. So, the preemptive strike will be unexpected.

[Battle Toads]

Quote: EFIM LYUBIN

Another blah blah blah on the topic - "we can do this", but we don't want to do it and we won't!! In the Pentagon, everyone ran out of fear to change diapers! The Kremlin will never order a preventive nuclear strike. And in NATO, knowing this very well, they will become impudent more and more! In an old song about the Motherland there are such words - "But we will frown our eyebrows severely, If the enemy wants to break us ..."! Apparently, this is the formidable answer to the West!

You would be on an armored car with these slogans

[opuonmed]

Quote from BattleToads

Quote: EFIM LYUBIN

Another blah blah blah on the topic - "we can do this", but we don't want to do it and we won't!! In the Pentagon, everyone ran out of fear to change diapers! The Kremlin will never order a preventive nuclear strike. And in NATO, knowing this very well, they will become impudent more and more! In an old song about the Motherland there are such words - "But we will frown our eyebrows severely, If the enemy wants to break us ..."! Apparently, this is the formidable answer to the West!

You would be on an armored car with these slogans

“The war in Ukraine may get out of control and escalate into a big war between NATO and Russia – but I am sure that we will avoid this” - NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg.

He also added that there is no doubt that a full-scale war is possible.


The United States no longer insists that the Armed Forces of Ukraine not strike at Russian territory, as they are less afraid of an escalation from Moscow, the British newspaper The Times reported.

"We don't tell Kiev, 'Don't hit the Russians [in Russia, specifically in Crimea].' We can't tell them what to do. How they use their weapons is up to them, but when they use weapons provided by us, we only insist that the Ukrainian military follow the international laws of war and abide by the Geneva Conventions,” said the source of the publication in the American defense department. “This is the only restriction, but it implies that Russian families and attempts to eliminate there should also be no specific individuals. As far as we know, Ukraine complies with these conditions."

[Fangaro]

A preemptive disarming strike, is it like hitting everyone you meet if they can be dangerous?
The United States once again writes its rules in a way that suits them. If they want, they will hold a Flower Revolution. If they want, they will burn the villages with napalm along with the people. If they want, they will launch rockets with whatever they see fit.
Why, then, in the states after the murder of an African American, many of the elect apologized for their pale skin?

[Michael]

Everything goes back to those ancient times when the US wanted to disarm with the first strike, and the USSR relied on a retaliatory strike. Since then, the Americans have been a permanent leader in high-precision weapons, and the notorious "Dead Hand" is guaranteed not to disarm. And nothing is possible to oppose to the technologies of the second half of the 20th century until teleportation is invented. Or they will not send a "donkey loaded with gold."
"Dead hand" - these are thermonuclear-pumped EMP generators, undermined in near space, it is impossible to shoot them down, because. they don’t fly anywhere, they explode right above the mine. The ionic layer of the stratosphere comes into a chaotically excited state, radio communication is impossible and radars do not see anything. And rockets with inertial guidance take off, with a CEP of 3 kilometers, which, with a power of 20-30 megatons, is completely unimportant.

[Maks1995]

They just accustom the milestones to the idea that we can gobble up nuclear weapons. From annoyance.
They are in heaven, and we ...

[meandr51]

They have nothing to do in paradise. We'll get them out of there.

[t-12]

In the old Soviet times, people knew how to follow the language. And now they have forgotten. Both politicians and propagandists. Instead of clear and precise statements - some kind of boyish show-off.

The Western media will, of course, seize the opportunity and come out with headlines: "Russia is preparing to deliver the first nuclear strike."

[Andobor]

Quote: t-12

The Western media will, of course, seize the opportunity and come out with headlines: "Russia is preparing to launch a first nuclear strike"

It's high time, only they should whine, and not we directly threaten.

[t-12]

It's time

Is it time for a nuclear war? Where are you now in New Zealand?

[Andobor]

Quote: t-12

Is it time for a nuclear war?

Put a "gun" to the temple of a bandit, and he will crawl away - they are squishy Americans - they respect strength. Or do you offer to shoot right away?

[meandr51]

Wonderful. The more afraid, the better.

[Bingo]

And by the way, the US nuclear triad is not at all retaliated for a retaliatory strike - for example, the mines are practically not protected, not like ours

[cash]

they don’t think that a blow to their mines can be in principle, read about the dropshot plan

[Karabin]

President of the Russian Federation: If we are talking about a disarming strike, the concept of which the United States has, then we can think about it

It’s somehow not serious to hear this from a person whom dear partners regularly throw.

[Chem1st]

Quote: mann

I’m afraid that in the United States they don’t understand that they don’t have enough courage even to respond ...

In vain you are afraid, they have understood it for a long time. Otherwise they wouldn't have behaved so arrogantly.

[Evgenijus]

The military doctrine of Russia must be changed to a tougher one in relation to today's enemy. The world has changed, and not in favor of Russia's security. Why can't we take North Korea or Iran as an example? These countries are not afraid of threats against them from America. And we have all hugs with "partners" and empty hints to them about Sarmat in the mine. One must speak with the enemy not with diplomacy, but with the language of force. Only the strong are respected by the enemy, while the weak are torn up by gas pipelines, they steal gas, oil, currency from him, they grab citizens all over the world and behind bars. For eight years we watched how Ukraine was preparing for war, but in our country everything was overgrown with diplomacy.

[cash]

if they say we’ll think, then the strategy has already been developed, and the plan has been approved, then the GDP will come out to tell another tale about a watch and a dagger, and a hypersound hoba, only here it will be with yao

[alexoff]

Were they afraid to enforce the court decision on Nazi criminals from the basements of Azov, but will they not be afraid to bang with a nuclear club with the death of a bunch of residents of the Holy West living nearby?

[Michael]

Quote from alexoff

Were they afraid to enforce the court decision on Nazi criminals from the basements of Azov, but will they not be afraid to bang with a nuclear club with the death of a bunch of residents of the Holy West living nearby?

"at 100 percent he violates all human laws, at 300 percent there is no such crime that he would not risk, at least under pain of the gallows." Do you remember? It is counterproductive to use a nuclear club, but what analysts and top managers think is not for us to judge, we are not admitted to state secrets)))).

[alexoff]

Well, by the way, a disarming nuclear strike is probably 3000% of the profits, but for this, the special services and the government must jump above their heads in order to cover all the storage sites for nuclear weapons and all NATO submarines at once. Purely quantitatively, it is quite possible, there are fewer placements than we have bombs. But not with our number of traitors at the top

[Michael]

Quote from alexoff

Well, by the way, a disarming nuclear strike is probably 3000% of the profits, but for this, the special services and the government must jump above their heads in order to cover all the storage sites for nuclear weapons and all NATO submarines at once. Purely quantitatively, it is quite possible, there are fewer placements than we have bombs. But not with our number of traitors at the top

Therefore, a disarming strike has always been the sweet dream of the capitalists. The Soviet Union relied on a guaranteed retaliatory strike, so there is the notorious "Perimeter" and thermonuclear land mines with cobalt lining under the Ural Range.

[alexoff]

Well, we also have capitalism. Maybe bang? Why pity them, busurman, they wouldn’t pity us

[Michael]

Quote from alexoff

Well, we also have capitalism. Maybe bang? Why pity them, busurman, they wouldn’t pity us

It would be something to bang - bang. But, I repeat, the United States is many times ahead of the Russian Federation in terms of high-precision weapons. And capitalism calculates not only the possible profit, but also the risks. 300 under "fear"))) gallows - there is a chance to go to the scaffold, but you can play it safe.
3000% - guaranteed the bottom of the pond or an unmarked grave in the deep forest.

[alexoff]

What does nothing mean? If you hit first, then one bomb destroys the ammunition depot, one nuclear submarine sinks one nuclear submarine, one tactical charge demolishes the airfield. The question is how to shoot down a dofig of guided missiles that will be released by thirty American bombers? The answer is a few bomb clusters before they take off, a cluster iskander, a tactical charge. Somehow this good should be enough, but the main thing in this matter is a monolithic leadership that will prepare such a plan in full disguise, which cannot be done when a traitor is sitting on a traitor and driving a foreign agent. Yes, and if tomorrow a magician suddenly arrives, waves a magic wand and all the weapons in NATO turn into dust, ours will not even have a clue what to do next, how to live, whom to pray for and blame all the problems, it’s like living on our own, building a new one ourselves wonderful world? Their fantasy has never spread beyond Courchevel and offshore!

[meandr51]

Question: how did the United States with all its agents not know about the return of Crimea? And also about the beginning of SVO?

[alexoff]

Perhaps because it was decided to return the Crimea in a very short time, besides, the moment of Yanukovoshch's flight was not too obvious to them, and we don't know exactly what plans the Americans had, maybe they expected that there would be a proxy war, where all the east will fight against the entire west, and not that the most pro-Russian regions will go to Russia, and the rest will be left to be eaten. They normally predicted NWO, they began to shout and threaten for a long time. I still remember that journalists wrote that Xi asked Putin to wait until the end of the Olympics, it just ended on Sunday, and on Monday they announced the recognition of the LDNR. I still remember everyone was surprised that the Ukrainians were talking about the mythical downed Il-76s, which they even boasted about in the White House, which, as it turned out, were at the airfields, but never flew anywhere. The manual was ready, they did not have time to update it. So with intelligence they are all right. But what ours is doing - I do not understand. They say shells are being brought from Kazakhstan to Ukrainians, why not put trackers in boxes, so that later they can work quietly in storage places? Yes, or just make sure that every tenth shell in the barrel explodes. But nothing of the kind is being done, not even a single Ukrainian official was hurt, not a single general, not a single talking head. Probably because there is no mass export of relatives of our officials from behind the hillock, probably this says something

[cash]

because Kazakhstan has not been an ally for a long time and all its independence is in the hands of the British? he also drives fuel to pigs, I’ll say more, Uzbekistan supplies pigs with equipment, Azerbaijanis supply planes and ammunition

[alexoff]

Well, even if in such a country our intelligence cannot do anything, is not capable of recruiting anyone, then they should be sent home, and the money saved should be given to Prigozhin, let him organize private intelligence

[alexoff]

Where infa did not know? About the beginning of the NWO, as I understand it, all the facts I wrote were ignored? About Crimea, too, will you just ask again and ignore?

[meandr51]

And what do you have to do with it? Or are you from Langley getting paid to suck your thumb? If the Americans knew the start date and the action plan, they would simply bring in the Polish-Baltic "peacekeeping" contingent in advance, block the roads, and the Russian Federation would not be able to capture a third of the country on the move. So their intelligence is no better and also "couldn't recruit anyone needed." Even hundreds of satellites and AWACS did not help.
In the Russian Federation, they announced that they had seized documents saying that the Armed Forces of Ukraine planned to launch an offensive in early March. Very similar to the truth. Because the blow was completely unexpected for them. They were sure that the Russian Federation would not dare to invade. And this is intelligence? And they always had enough manuals for all occasions. Which one do you use?

[alexoff]

So there was a British-American contingent, which was withdrawn in a couple of weeks in order to avoid, they could have been placed along the roads and ours, of course, would have been scared to death. And the transport workers were already landing in Poland, not a single one was stuck in Kyiv. I am 95% sure that during the negotiations, Putin directly threatened to bring in troops and extradite people, without any intelligence. Well, considering how many corrupt officials we have in the army (and they definitely don’t hide money in the savings bank), one should not be surprised at the awareness of, for example, the location of all the Rogozins and many other generals who came under fire.

[cash]

the problem is that amers have 2/3 syas - submarines, the world's oceans are hefty large, you can't track everything, let's count 24 (missiles) x 12 (heads in trident-2) x 475kT = 137mT, how many submarines they have, carrying yaos?

[meandr51]

Half of them will be drowned directly in the ports by Poseidons, which will first be laid to the bottom within walking distance. The rest will be allowed to shoot only once. Heads will be intercepted.
The trouble is that Amer's nuclear submarines cannot fire in volleys, like ours. Even 2 missiles in a row cannot be fired. After 1 start-up, they go for a month to be repaired.

[Xenofont]

The whole world is frozen! "Chapai thinks!" Gentlemen, empirialists, do not worry, our thoughts usually go on for years, or even decades.

[cniza]

The use of the nuclear arsenal prescribed in the doctrine is as a response action, including as a response to such enemy actions that aim to make the use of nuclear weapons itself impossible.

Here is one way to insure against provocations ..

[Horon]

President of the Russian Federation: If we are talking about a disarming strike, the concept of which the United States has, then we can think about it

Think Vladimir Vladimirovich, think. But behind your words there is a constant emptiness, you are our "deceived".
"If I was deceived once, then shame on the head of the one who did it. If I was deceived a second time, then shame on my head!"
Eastern proverb.

[Mavrikiy]

We think about it. After all, no one is embarrassed when they spoke about it aloud in previous years.

What do you think, what do not think ...... but you need to beat.

[Yves762]

If there is still a maze, they will choke preventively and so on. If not, then every scribbled haloymes will not do.
Behind this, such speeches are only a log in the furnace of bourgeois propagandists: "Look, the dictator is again brandishing a vigorous bonboy!" -, something like that...

[CirclePit]

It must be clearly understood that inflicting an initial nuclear strike will be regarded as a defeat - for in such a war there are no and will not be winners, no matter how the turbopatriots scream about it.

[meandr51]

You are simply repeating the catchphrase from the American training manual for the Russian Federation. Whoever strikes first wins.

[CirclePit]

How can the winner be the one who has at least one carrier of the enemy can reach the goal?
Given the relative parity and the fact that our air defense is overcome by the mythical modifications of the Swifts, it is hard to believe that our country will repel all carrier attacks.
Too big risks that are difficult to probe and even more so to take at least some responsibility for them.

[meandr51]

And all is not necessary. Enough to neutralize 90%, then to dictate their will to the whole world. Well, there will be no Moscow. Do you think who in the Russian Federation will be upset?

[CirclePit]

I recently moved to Moscow and conditionally you say "the fact that you are gone is not a great loss" - to me and several million more citizens of the Russian Federation. For what ? Imperial ambitions for ?

[meandr51]

For others to live. I am also from the Moscow suburbs. The alternative is to die. If the country's desire to live is imperial ambitions, then yes, for their sake. The constant pushing up of the red lines is incompatible with the life of the people of the Russian Federation. If we do not use active protection of the territory, then we will be divided, set against each other and against China. This previously confidential project has already been openly voiced in the West.

[CirclePit]

I believe that the categorical judgments regarding the alternative will not allow you to answer one question - what is considered life in a nuclear wasteland? Brawling over the resources of local enclaves, whose leadership has enough will and means to knock out those who remained in the conditions of a shortage of absolutely everything? It's a good life, don't say anything.

[Vicontas]

And this is said by a man who, at the request of the Americans, did not allow Yanukovych to disperse the Maidan. This is said by an intelligence officer who was bred for eight years as a sucker with the Minsk agreements, in which he was disappointed only after Merkel admitted that it was a scam for his beloved. About the grain deal, in which Russia was thrown again, you can not mention it at all .. M..yes, you can watch three things for an infinitely long time - how water flows, how fire burns, and the empty speeches of the President of Russia!

[alexoff]

But what a beautiful Ferris wheel!

[meandr51]

Do you always take the president's words at face value?

[Vicontas]

If deceptions become a habit, no one will believe him! From the word NEVER! By the way, according to a recent closed poll by the All-Russian Public Opinion Research Center (VTsIOM), confidence in the president has fallen to 37%. Here they are grain deals, retreats from Kharkov, Kherson Raisins! Plus, the exchange of hundreds of murderers of "Azov" for one godfather of Medvedchuk!

[Mouse]

Make the "world-military" community crow and apply it clearly in Kyiv. Well, you can see it when you get tired of competing on the steppes of Ukraine in a submarine. And declare it all Novorossia.

[Egeny]

Quote: Damir Shamaev

Here I calmed down so calmed down.

Hello. I have a feeling that no one heard Putin's speech about a "preemptive strike", where he talks about our "hundreds, hundreds of missiles ..." - I like this and the warhead of enemy missiles, but this one is not very.
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/470185250715364480
My question is: why "...inevitably"?

[Mitia68]

All the same, we will all go to heaven in the coming years!

[Incvizitor]

Banderlog burned a prodigy.

[jdiver]

and nothing prevents Russia from "taking the achievements of American partners and using their ideas to ensure their own security."

Well, the Christmas trees are green ... And there is no way without import substitution ...

[Hindu]

After such frightening words, in theory, America should tense up. But for some reason, the Voronezh residents tensed up.

[Hindu]

Quote from: filibuster

No middle ground.

Still, as given, to build a normal state with a strong economy, replaced by power, a low level of corruption.

"What are you, this is fantastic" ©

[Vlvl]

First you need to think, then make an appropriate decision, and only then speak, and not vice versa.

[Yaro Polk]

it is necessary to prescribe in the Doctrine .. that Russia .. at any convenient moment .. can and should .. launch a nuclear strike on Fashington.

[meandr51]

And immediately classify this doctrine. And publish the exact opposite.

[bratchanin]

How would we all not be late with this, slow-witted you are our peace-loving. When he was young, he was able to think more quickly!

[the same doctor]

The President, as always, is talking nonsense and choosing the most inefficient option of all possible.
Political aside, there can be only one purely military response to BSU. Increase the number of targets for the BGU so that the amers do not have enough missiles for all their missiles. Those. the mass of light monoblock missiles, today about 6-10 thousand, located in camouflaged positions. Some of them with non-nuclear warheads, up to half of the dummies ... So that after the BGU there is enough left for a retaliatory strike on the States.
Today, electronics are cheap and light, an ICBM with one warhead can easily fit into 15-20 tons. Those. You can carry them in ordinary trucks and hide them in any hangar.
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All that is needed is to withdraw from the SALT treaties. If politicians and diplomats were patriots in the Kremlin, all issues would be solved by the mere threat of a transition to such a strategy. Under the current president, in order to encourage the amers to a constructive dialogue, this program will have to be fully implemented.

[meandr51]

The idea is very good. The only question is political will.

[cash]

there is strength, there is will, there is no willpower