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Russian President after Merkel's words: Special military operation should probably have started earlier

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Russian President after Merkel's words: Special military operation should probably have started earlier

Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is visiting Bishkek, commented on the recent statement by ex-Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel. Recall that Merkel, giving an assessment of the Minsk agreements, said literally the following: “With their help, we gave Ukraine time. We allowed Ukraine to strengthen and become stronger.” By the word "we" Merkel meant the collective West in general and Germany and France in particular. It was they who acted as guarantors of the fulfillment by Kyiv of its obligations. As you know, Kyiv did not fulfill any obligations, and was not going to fulfill it, which Merkel, in fact, confirmed.


Vladimir Putin, commenting on the words of Angela Merkel, expressed his disappointment. According to the Russian leader, this statement makes it clear that the West was not going to do anything to ensure that what was written in these agreements was implemented.

President of the Russian Federation:

It turns out that they (Ukraine) were not going to fulfill all these Minsk agreements. The point was only to pump up Ukraine weaponsprepare for combat.

The President pointed out that in connection with this, a special military operation should probably have been launched earlier.

Vladimir Putin:

We thought that we could agree on everything within the framework of the Minsk agreements.

As the president emphasized, after such a revelation from the former federal chancellor, the question once again arises: is it possible to negotiate anything with the West at all. At the same time, the head of state added that "in any case, we will have to negotiate." But already with real mutual guarantees.
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    1. Himalayan
      Himalayan 9 December 2022 18: 05
      +17
      Yes, it turns out ... But maybe they will come to their senses? Should we return the children to Russia, sell real estate and businesses ...
      1. Maz
        Maz 10 December 2022 17: 17
        +1
        Wow - I saw the obvious, we would have gone into 2014 and half of Ukraine would have been ours without words, we would have been greeted with flowers all the way to Lviv. Mariupol would have been taken without destruction and casualties, there the people were ready to cut the raguli in the doorways with knives. And NATO simply would not have had time to react, and now there is a war from all over NATO and cowardice to use powerful weapons, the same high-power vacuum bombs of 40 tons of explosives in the equivalent .... well, we eat what we eat, Stalin would immediately shoot half of the rear, for the fact that the army is equipped with voluntary donations, and not the rear of the Moscow Region with thermal imagers and drones. even body armor, not to mention tubes for machine guns and other sights, art reconnaissance equipment, anti-battery stations, electronic warfare, modern tanks. And plus our generals, lazy, fat and well-fed, no matter how something happened at their dachas and country palaces. NWO had to start earlier in the rear. And right now, it’s just a shame, a shame again for the state and a disgrace to the whole world, as in 1941 after June 22. And God forbid, before May 9, 23, all this is at least somehow corrected. and Peskov has already said that the goal of the NWO is to free only the Donetsk People's Republic, LPR, KhNR, ZNR and that's all. I don't even know what to say after that. The boys at the front of life put, and ask to bring what is missing, but in general - to hold up the ammunition! Yes, someone's hand has risen - right now there is a cold, slush and cold in the trench - they will quickly correct the bureaucrats. At least don't read the news. It was necessary to do as in Israel - to seize the territory right up to Uzhgorod, not to pander with resistance, and then to shoot statements from the rostrum
    2. dorz
      dorz 9 December 2022 18: 05
      +4
      You can't step into the same river twice...probably. sad
    3. AAK
      AAK 9 December 2022 18: 51
      +19
      ... ah, it's not difficult to deceive me, I myself am glad to be deceived ... and in general, a smart thought comes after
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 9 December 2022 19: 33
        +2
        Vladimir Putin, commenting on the words of Angela Merkel, expressed his disappointment.
        - It turns out that they (Ukraine) were not going to fulfill all these Minsk agreements.

        Hmmm, is that all? It remains only to fart into the sky and answer for mistakes in decision-making. Thanks to Grandma Merkel for opening someone's eyes.
        1. nickname7
          nickname7 10 December 2022 10: 03
          +3
          If you call a spade a spade, then the Kremlin in 14 went over to the side of NATO. And these excuses "oh I didn't know, I was deceived" in favor of the poor.
          1. bayard
            bayard 11 December 2022 08: 41
            +1
            Quote: nickname7
            If you call a spade a spade, then the Kremlin in 14 went over to the side of NATO.

            In fact, this happened when he persuaded Yanukovych to withdraw the troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs from Kyiv and give the city to the Nazis. It was he who persuaded him, promising that the "western partners" would give him guarantees.
            And then he refused to help suppress the fascist putsch when he publicly asked Russia and him personally for help on camera.
            And for 8 years, the constant desire to merge the Donbass with fascist Ukraine.
            Deceived, deceived or ....... ?
      2. zloybond
        zloybond 9 December 2022 20: 49
        +13
        Yes, they all knew. And about the set-up with Minsk, and about foreign exchange reserves that cannot be stored abroad in such a volume, and about Chubais stealing quietly for himself, and about the grain deal ... but nothing was done.
    4. Romanovski
      Romanovski 9 December 2022 19: 07
      -6
      But there is no need to idealize Stalin ... Soviet intelligence officers from different countries (the same R. Sorge from Japan ...) also reported to Stalin about the impending attack on the USSR, and even the exact day and time were reported in encryption as much as 1 month before 22.06.1941. 23 .... But he did not believe, but believed the Non-Aggression Pact between the USSR and Germany (dated August 1939, XNUMX, when the USSR and Germany signed the famous Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which guaranteed non-aggression of the parties against each other if one of them will be involved in hostilities ....).
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 9 December 2022 19: 32
        +14
        Quote from Romanovski
        But he did not believe, but believed the Treaty ...

        Stalin did not trust anyone. And he was right.
        To believe in big politics, and surrounded by such neighbors, and less than two decades after the civil war, and revanchists raising their heads inside the country, was simply criminal.
  2. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 9 December 2022 17: 58
    +41
    It turns out that they (Ukraine) were not going to fulfill all these Minsk agreements.

    It finally came, it should have been done in 2014!
    #DEPARTMENTDECEIVED
    1. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 9 December 2022 18: 16
      +18
      It turns out that light elves with wings behind their backs can deceive. This has never happened before, and here it is again.

      As the president emphasized, after such a revelation from the former federal chancellor, the question once again arises: is it possible to negotiate anything with the West at all.


      Is it about surrender and a warm cell in The Hague. But of course it’s not. Yes, and what kind of mania is such an agreement, albeit at any cost, but to negotiate? Here it is necessary to defend the interests of the country, strengthen it and not agree in the middle, trading the interests of the country in favor of the West. As an example, the situation in our civil aviation industry, which was once sacrificed in the interests of joining the WTO. As a result, they still didn’t achieve what they wanted under the WTO, and then chaos with sanctions began. They even banned the sale of Boeings and, as a result, they began to recall their civil aircraft industry, which they neglected at the time.
    2. Paradox00
      Paradox00 9 December 2022 18: 25
      -7
      I think that in 2014 we were also not ready for a big batch. Since then, the military-industrial complex has been intensively raised, and as soon as they prepared, the GDP in December 2021 rolled out an ultimatum from NATO. So everything is thought out.
      1. alekseykabanets
        alekseykabanets 9 December 2022 18: 59
        +12
        Quote from Paradox00
        Since then, the military-industrial complex has been intensively raised

        And how is the progress? Drones are baked like hot cakes, Su - 57 with a second stage engine in the troops, Armata in the series? Import substitution, industrial production raised, assets withdrawn from the west?
        Quote from Paradox00
        So everything is thought out.

        Not a modest question, are you even paid for such comments?
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 9 December 2022 21: 32
          +3
          Tanks with sane heats, turntables with protection against MANPADS at least.
        2. stankow
          stankow 10 December 2022 16: 50
          0
          Yesterday, Ukraine rolled Slovak T-55s onto the battlefield. And Russia in response to the T-14? Yes, you would like laughing
        3. Paradox00
          Paradox00 10 December 2022 23: 25
          -3
          Counterquestion. Does tsipso pay you in hryvnias or dollars? Do not settle for hryvnia.
      2. Dmitry Rigov
        Dmitry Rigov 9 December 2022 19: 16
        +12
        Then, rather, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were not ready, the Ukrainian army was plundered and NATO standards had not yet been implemented. Moreover, our command seems to have forgotten that it was after the “cauldrons” that the Ukrainian government willingly entered into negotiations, and now remember how many times there were “cauldrons” during these 9+ months of the NWO? But then the population of Ukraine was also pro-Russian, in the same Kharkov, a crowd with Russian flags captured the Regional State Administration, but then they were thrown out by special forces from western Ukraine. And now they wonder why our troops were not greeted "with flowers" when, after 8 years, a bunch of people from the most Russian-speaking regions fought in the Donbass, and those same national battalions consist entirely of people from Mariupol, Kharkov, Odessa, etc.
      3. nickname7
        nickname7 10 December 2022 10: 16
        +1
        that in 2014 we were also not ready for a big batch

        Aren't you tired of lying? In the 14th, a big batch would not have worked out because it was necessary to consider the balance of power, and not some mythical unpreparedness, the ratio was 1:200 in our favor, given the collapse of the state power of the Criminal Code after the Maidan, in 14 the Kiev junta would have been expelled easily, like two fingers on sfalt, without the destruction of cities and victims in 100K. And now it seems like cities will have to be turned into ruins and millions will die. Here's your unpreparedness.
    3. sak1969
      sak1969 9 December 2022 19: 10
      +2
      Quote: Trapp1st
      It turns out that they (Ukraine) were not going to fulfill all these Minsk agreements.

      It finally came, it should have been done in 2014!
      #DEPARTMENTDECEIVED

      The President is lying. It was just a plan to build a gas pipeline. To turn the west on a gas needle like a propeller. And the DPR and LPR interfered so much. So I wanted to leave them in Ukraine but as part of the autonomy.
      1. Zamira
        Zamira 9 December 2022 21: 07
        +7
        Quote: sak1969
        The President is lying. It was just a plan to build a gas pipeline. To turn the west on a gas needle like a propeller. And the DPR and LPR interfered so much. So I wanted to leave them in Ukraine but as part of the autonomy.

        Yes, this is very close to the truth. Otherwise, it is impossible to explain in any way that after they burned people alive in Odessa, Russia expressed only its notorious "concerns." NO WAY!!! IMPOSSIBLE!!! EXPLAIN!!! Well, at least it is absolutely incomprehensible to me personally why what is being done now was not done in 2014.
      2. nickname7
        nickname7 10 December 2022 10: 20
        0
        The President is cunning

        In tweezers, it doesn't matter what causes the mistake, which is worse than a crime, but for this you should retire or impeach.
  3. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 9 December 2022 17: 58
    +13
    A special military operation should probably have started earlier

    ***
    - In 2014 ...
    ***
  4. dmi.pris1
    dmi.pris1 9 December 2022 17: 59
    +17
    It's time to admit mistakes .. Hmm .. The price is a thousand lives
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 9 December 2022 18: 23
      +17
      It is not enough to admit mistakes - it is necessary for someone else to answer for them. And - aren't there too many mistakes? Something their number is already really off scale.
    2. Pilot
      Pilot 9 December 2022 18: 34
      +4
      And he didn't screw up alone. Those who voted for him and rustled around also participated in this. Only now completely different people are responsible for other people's mistakes, with their lives and health at the forefront. And it is not known how long this will last, how long
      more good people will answer for the sins of others ..
    3. nickname7
      nickname7 10 December 2022 10: 24
      -1
      Hmm .. The price is a thousand lives

      Millions of refugees can't get off with a thousand, and it looks like there will be millions of lives too.
      It is not clear how Kyiv will be taken, in general, the Russian Federation, which is looking after the oligarchs, has driven into a monstrous trap.
  5. strannik1985
    strannik1985 9 December 2022 17: 59
    +9
    The President pointed out that in connection with this, a special military operation should probably have been launched earlier.

    In 2014, maximum in 2016, when the Ukrainian DRG staged a shootout in the Crimea...
    Integrity is perceived as a weakness negative
    1. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 9 December 2022 18: 34
      +12
      If they had started in 2014 or, at the very least, 2016, then Ukrainians from the east and south of Ukraine would not have fought against us. And the Westerners, the warriors are so-so, we remember how they fled in 14-15 years.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 10 December 2022 00: 13
      +3
      Quote: strannik1985
      Integrity is perceived as a weakness

      Integrity is nothing.
      Weakness and lack of will are taken for weakness.
      1. nickname7
        nickname7 10 December 2022 10: 30
        0
        Here is an analogy that the Kremlin played cards and thought they were cunning, and in the meantime the cards were marked, and the partners were cheaters. They threw the Kremlin on all counts.
        Merkel smiled at GDP, while she twisted the fig. laughing
  6. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 9 December 2022 18: 00
    -16
    But our conscience is clear Vladimir Vladimirovich! good

    Whatever it is, the Kyiv regime will end with the destruction of itself, and we, the Russians, support you! drinks
    1. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 9 December 2022 18: 04
      +10
      Isn't the reputation price too high?
      And one ruined fate would be too much
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  8. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 9 December 2022 18: 02
    -13
    Quote: dmi.pris
    It's time to admit mistakes .. Hmm .. The price is a thousand lives


    Well, let's dig even further! To Yanukovych for example! lol
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 9 December 2022 18: 14
      +11
      Let's dig Yanukovych too. Let's give him to the people in the Donbass .. Why the hell did he get under the wing here? Let him answer .. And yes, I don’t understand your giggle. West in the Kremlin?
  9. Shamil88
    Shamil88 9 December 2022 18: 04
    +23
    I woke up, everyone who had a head on their shoulders, and not billions in accounts in European banks, shouted about this, that the Minsk agreements were a betrayal of the militia, we must end with Ukraine now, absolutely everything was done the other way around, to please the oligarchs, then they chose shame, they got war and shame today, and there is no end in sight to all this, how the last vine was bred, and everyone who spoke about it was called whiners and all-prossers, they fed all the HPP, and Strelkov, who predicted this back in 14, became almost a traitor. But they still beg for negotiations, the leadership seems to already have schizophrenia
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 9 December 2022 18: 11
      +13
      But they still beg for negotiations, the leadership seems to already have schizophrenia
      And now they are begging, they just had to answer something to Merkel’s words, she showed herself painfully in the media. And fools are those who think that he repented of something or that something will change.
  10. Roust
    Roust 9 December 2022 18: 04
    +12
    They blew the ruin .. Now we are reaping ... It's a pity for the guys and their families .. Strategy - Zero !!! ...
  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 9 December 2022 18: 04
    +2
    Compromise with the West, they consider it weakness. Partners, partners. Well, let them clear it up now. Only there are no more compromises. lol
    1. Xenofont
      Xenofont 9 December 2022 18: 32
      +13
      Eh, you think that it is not we who will disentangle? The authorities will shake off the shame and go to steer further. And no one knows what awaits the people in the near future.
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 9 December 2022 20: 45
      +9
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Just no more compromises.

      And if you need a godfather to help out? Or help some kind of Abramovich in business?
  12. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 9 December 2022 18: 06
    +14
    And I initially publicly advocated the accession of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions to Russia after their referendum. Perhaps at the same time it was possible to attach Kharkovskaya, if ...
    The reasoning was simple: in any case, the West will not recognize the annexation of Crimea alone.
    But someone had their own stupid opinion, which can be briefly described as "neither fish nor meat."
    I'm not talking about the fact that the West has been preparing for a war in Ukraine for 8 years, and our helmsmen only sawed the loot on the "newest" and "unparalleled in the world."
    The result is natural, and Merkel confirmed this. And Putin's remark looks like a pathetic attempt at justification.
  13. spirit
    spirit 9 December 2022 18: 14
    +25
    And this man was called the genius of foreign policy! Grandmaster! multi-move! The veil of reality is slowly breaking through tons of PR and propaganda on TV that fed us about the uniqueness of our great "Leaders"
    1. Ghost1
      Ghost1 9 December 2022 18: 49
      0
      Propaganda, urapatriots saw hpp and multi-move in every action, but in reality it is human nature to make mistakes, make wrong decisions, which we see as the result of today's events.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 9 December 2022 19: 22
        +3
        Yes, human nature. But when this person has a whole staff of other people to analyze the situation before making decisions, and they are all wrong as one? Come on, what the hell, the whole country was seething from the Minsks and said that they would throw it. But the man continued to listen to the devil. And it smells oochen strongly and otnyut roses.
    2. igork735
      igork735 10 December 2022 08: 56
      0
      "It's not the personalities that are brilliant, but the positions."
      Shebarshin - Soviet lieutenant general, head of foreign intelligence of the USSR,
  14. g_ae
    g_ae 9 December 2022 18: 15
    +10
    Who would have thought? Or maybe she was joking? Well, partners can't do that! It is necessary, probably, to jump on a rake, maybe the result will be different.
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 9 December 2022 18: 16
      +8
      We should probably still ride on the rake
      It will, no doubt.
  15. Alf
    Alf 9 December 2022 18: 16
    +17
    The President pointed out that in connection with this, a special military operation should probably have been launched earlier.

    And he does not want to name the one who made this mistake? Again, the enemies are to blame? For the only time, both the Duma and the People became united, but "someone" after the visit of the president of the country of watches, cheeses and BANKS suddenly "turned on the back" ...
  16. Vashek
    Vashek 9 December 2022 18: 17
    +11
    It would be worth not listening to Surkov in 2014. Mariupol would be intact. It was only necessary to give a pendal to Yanukovych in Kharkov and get a citizen on UA.
  17. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 9 December 2022 18: 17
    -11
    Quote: spirit
    And this man was called the genius of foreign policy! Grandmaster! multi-move! The veil of reality is slowly breaking through tons of PR and propaganda on TV that fed us about the uniqueness of our great "Leaders"


    Let's just get along without the detonation of your superintelligent brain with a couple of convolutions, ok? good
    1. nickname7
      nickname7 10 December 2022 11: 02
      +1
      Why is this comment wrong? I remember after reports of the beginning of the capture of Mariupol by the militias in 14, there was inspiration and suddenly, like a tub of mud, shed when the command came to stop the attack on Bandorostan, to surrender Mariupol. The junta headed by Yarosh and Turchinov is recognized as the government of Banderostan. Then came the terrible realization that we are ruled by traitors. The patriots were demoralized, who drank themselves who went over to the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
  18. Tagan
    Tagan 9 December 2022 18: 20
    +1
    It seems that Vladimir Vladimirovich was cunning. In general, no one believed in the implementation of the Minsk agreements. Rather, this statement was aimed at pricking the grandmother and the West in her face. Like, that's the kind of poop you are.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 9 December 2022 19: 17
      +2
      So what? Did they just repent and start farting rainbows the next day? They've always been like that, petty, greedy, hypocritical. It was we, the whole society, who fell for the beautiful advertisement of the Western consumer society, and they used us. We will continue to believe in fairy tales from the Bois de Boulogne, or even wake up and start doing with them as they deserve.
  19. Sasha Koblov
    Sasha Koblov 9 December 2022 18: 21
    +4
    The GDP said as if someone had not given the opportunity to do this before.
    Apparently, the Alegarchs were more concerned about the safety of their capital in Western banks. It took time to pick up or reissue deposits.
  20. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 9 December 2022 18: 21
    -16
    Quote: Tagan
    It seems that Vladimir Vladimirovich was cunning. In general, no one believed in the implementation of the Minsk agreements. Rather, this statement was aimed at pricking the grandmother and the West in her face. Like, that's the kind of poop you are.


    And I think I did. In this crazy hypocritical world, at least one sane leader must remain. And this is our President good
    1. AUL
      AUL 9 December 2022 18: 52
      -2
      Quote from BattleToads
      Let's just get along without the detonation of your superintelligent brain with a couple of convolutions, ok?
    2. nickname7
      nickname7 10 December 2022 11: 06
      +1
      And I think I believed

      The leader is not to believe but to know.
      sane leader

      You need to judge sanity by deeds, the victims have already exceeded 100K, these victims are on the advice of GDP.
  21. Boris Sergeev
    Boris Sergeev 9 December 2022 18: 22
    +14
    Putin has publicly admitted to being a sucker. However, it is simply impossible to believe that the Russian leadership did not know about the true intentions of the Western "partners" who pushed through the "Minsk" agreements. Moreover, it is precisely about the desire for a new "Minsk" that Lavrov's department and Peskov himself regularly report.
  22. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 9 December 2022 18: 23
    -8
    Quote: Sasha Koblov
    The GDP said as if someone had not given the opportunity to do this before.
    Apparently, the Alegarchs were more concerned about the safety of their capital in Western banks. It took time to pick up or reissue deposits.


    Clearly not a genius of thought. Set of template chants and slogans drinks
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    1. nickname7
      nickname7 10 December 2022 11: 09
      +1
      Olginets?
      You try badly, + 15 you will not earn.
  24. Xenofont
    Xenofont 9 December 2022 18: 25
    +15
    Well, how much can you be convinced of your own "naivety"? How many years I have been hearing: those "partners" deceived, and then others and third ones ... Maybe it's not naivety and gullibility, but a subconscious desire to catch the last chance to be included in the "Society of Nobly Handshakes"?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 December 2022 18: 33
      +6
      Well, how much can you be convinced of your own "naivety"?
      "I am naive, I am gullible. I am easily deceived!" (c) mf "Santa Claus and the Gray Wolf"
  25. parusnik
    parusnik 9 December 2022 18: 26
    +2
    "We'll have to negotiate anyway." But already with real mutual guarantees.
    Like in childhood: whoever comes running last is a monkey.
  26. opuonmed
    opuonmed 9 December 2022 18: 27
    +2
    nudk RF for the West only barbarians who are not a sin to deceive!
  27. Boris Sergeev
    Boris Sergeev 9 December 2022 18: 27
    +9
    "We'll have to negotiate anyway." What to negotiate with those who surrender their regional centers without a fight and divert strategic aviation beyond the Urals?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 9 December 2022 18: 30
      +2
      Key phrase "mutual guarantees" laughing
  28. Boniface
    Boniface 9 December 2022 18: 31
    +7
    They deceived the fool into four fists - that's what the people say in our country. Everything has to be put on paper.


    so in the summer of 2021, V. Putin commented on NATO’s violation of the promise not to expand, which was given to Gorbachev.

    And Frau Merkel explained that fixing it on paper is also not a guarantee. negative
  29. GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 9 December 2022 18: 36
    +9
    Oh, again, divorced, what a surprise.
    This happens if you live in a bunker and just jump into the bushes.
  30. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 9 December 2022 18: 41
    +1
    At the same time, the head of state added that "in any case, we will have to negotiate." But already with real mutual guarantees.

    Guarantees can give an insurance policy but not the West. They promised a lot of things, like that there would be no eastward expansion of NATO.
    And what lies, like my yard dog, to all the women, so Colin Powell lied from the podium of the "Big Bell Tower".
  31. digger
    digger 9 December 2022 18: 51
    -8
    Is it really that Putin turned out to be a naive fool here ...... no ... he understood everything .... only he could not start earlier - the country was not ready.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 9 December 2022 19: 11
      +2
      What I’m not ready for, after the shots from Odessa, I was very ready to tear up the ducks.
    2. Amper
      Amper 9 December 2022 19: 26
      +3
      Right! Ukraine was ready to become Russian (2/3), but there was no place for it in the heart of the khan. crying Spotsmen more stirred up the wounded soul. love
  32. horror
    horror 9 December 2022 18: 52
    +4
    I don’t understand why our country’s leaders expose themselves in the international arena as f*cks. Starting with Gorbachev, nothing else comes to mind except on purpose.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 10 December 2022 00: 32
      +1
      Quote: horror
      I don’t understand why our country’s leaders expose themselves in the international arena as f*cks. Starting with Gorbachev, nothing else comes to mind except on purpose.

      To replenish the purse.
  33. VLR
    VLR 9 December 2022 18: 59
    +13
    The former GDR pioneer easily deceived the former KGB officer. Apparently, the KGB greatly degraded under the liberal Andropov. That is why the USSR fell, because the once formidable special service degenerated, became toothless and calmly watched how traitors and d ... crayfish destroy a great country.
    As for Putin, he had a unique chance to go down in history with the epithet Great. Unfortunately, he didn't use it. All of Ukraine, with the exception of three Western regions, fell at his feet, he chose not the Russian Spring, but negotiations with "partners", who, quite expectedly, turned out to be professional cheats.
  34. Chief Officer Lom
    Chief Officer Lom 9 December 2022 19: 03
    +7
    The mania to believe that in politics a signed paper guarantees the fulfillment of the signed paper will not lead to good. A paper is just proof that the contract has been concluded, but not a guarantee that the signed will be fulfilled. A guarantee is when there is someone or something that can and will definitely inflict damage on the breacher of the contract that greatly exceeds the benefit of breaching the contract. Yanukovych won, was given written guarantees by the most "respected" and "democratic" countries of Europe, and even under television cameras with broadcast to the entire planet. The very next day, those guarantees turned into toilet paper.
  35. evgen1221
    evgen1221 9 December 2022 19: 08
    +12
    That's the whole grandmaster, he played and played in the ending, sorry, the boys deceived us. the main liberal still believes that it is possible and necessary to negotiate with them and they will not throw him in. Rainbow unicorns are crying.
    1. Amper
      Amper 9 December 2022 19: 21
      +6
      Nah, there will be no more Minsk ones, the dad will send. fool There will be Istanbul. hi Janissaries never cheat, so they said! fellow
    2. nickname7
      nickname7 10 December 2022 11: 13
      +1
      sorry guys lied to us

      In theory, for this, a real man should shoot himself.
      And in Japan, such things are called loss of face, which can be washed off with the help of hara-kiri.
  36. Amper
    Amper 9 December 2022 19: 18
    +4
    It starts to reach the most inhibited. lol.... is it possible to negotiate something with the West at all. what At the same time, the head of state added that "in any case, we will have to negotiate." belay But already with real mutual guarantees......!!!!!!????? belay belay belay fool But the amazing mind of a resident of the country of the Republic of Poland makes you look for yesterday's rake. wassat
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  38. Fangaro
    Fangaro 9 December 2022 19: 34
    -2
    It would probably be worth asking, at least with an honorable retirement. If not reported.
  39. Unknown
    Unknown 9 December 2022 19: 38
    +2
    Yes, there are no words. And how was it, Putin ...
    They also touched upon the state of affairs in Ukraine.
    According to mutual opinion, the Minsk agreements remain the basis for a settlement with no alternative.
    And we, of course, will continue to work together within the framework of the Normandy Format, to promote the effective work of the Contact Group in Minsk.
    More Merkel...
    Of course, we talked a lot about Ukraine in our conversation, and I know that the Minsk agreements exist. The Minsk agreements are the only basis on which we can conduct our work. Unfortunately, there have been serious violations of the ceasefire tonight. So the thought of the UN mission - we need to keep thinking about it.

    We are coordinating our actions, the foreign ministers should continue to work here. And this would be a good success in terms of stabilizing the situation, in order to take some political steps agreed in Minsk.

    We also talked about the role of gas transit for Ukraine. And we are convinced on the part of Germany, and Peter Altmaier, our Minister of Economy, also negotiated this week, that even after the construction of Nord Stream 2, the role of Ukraine as a transit country should be preserved, this is of strategic importance.
    As one famous figure once said, it never happened, and here again
  40. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 9 December 2022 19: 42
    -10
    Quote: evgen1221
    That's the whole grandmaster, he played and played in the ending, sorry, the boys deceived us. the main liberal still believes that it is possible and necessary to negotiate with them and they will not throw him in. Rainbow unicorns are crying.


    Reading such comments, you understand how cool it is that in this world the nuclear suitcase is in the possession of seasoned and responsible people and not in different psychos drinks
    1. Boris Sergeev
      Boris Sergeev 9 December 2022 19: 48
      +6
      Responsible people don't put thousands of soldiers in order to give back what they've won as a "goodwill gesture."
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 9 December 2022 21: 08
      +5
      Quote from BattleToads
      how cool that in this world the nuclear suitcase is in the possession of seasoned and responsible people and not in different psychos

      And who are these people?
    3. igork735
      igork735 10 December 2022 09: 05
      0
      BattleToadsYesterday, 19:42
      "...the nuclear briefcase is at..."

      You repeat, it has already happened. The crisis of the genre?
  41. Tagan
    Tagan 9 December 2022 19: 43
    0
    Quote: evgen1221
    So what? Did they just repent and start farting rainbows the next day? They always were, petty greedy hypocritical

    Reminding them publicly that they are crap isn't out of place anyway.
  42. thepuppeteer
    thepuppeteer 9 December 2022 19: 55
    0
    France, Germany... EU.. In the grip of the world economic forum.
    THE NATO, VN... Is death!
    The world economic forum data is power
  43. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 9 December 2022 19: 56
    -10
    Quote: Boris Sergeev
    Responsible people don't put thousands of soldiers in order to give back what they've won as a "goodwill gesture."


    Did he offer to bury our entire Kherson group there? fool another sofa specialist for the defense of Kherson? drinks
  44. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 9 December 2022 20: 08
    -5
    Quote: dmi.pris
    It's time to admit mistakes .. Hmm .. The price is a thousand lives


    Mistakes should be recognized by the Kyiv regime ... Hmm ... The price is hundreds of thousands of lives ,,
  45. aleks.29ru
    aleks.29ru 9 December 2022 20: 34
    +2
    So that's what you are, and he gave flowers .... Bastard Merkel pidmanula ..., divorced ...
  46. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 9 December 2022 20: 59
    +4
    It should have started in 2014. Then the whole southeast would fall into our hands without much difficulty.
  47. Karabin
    Karabin 9 December 2022 21: 06
    +5
    President of the Russian Federation:

    It turns out that they (Ukraine) were not going to fulfill all these Minsk agreements. The point was only to pump up Ukraine with weapons, to prepare for hostilities.

    The President pointed out that in connection with this, a special military operation should probably have been launched earlier.

    Vladimir Putin:

    We thought that we could agree on everything within the framework of the Minsk agreements.


    After these words, Putin is a simpleton. Either he wants to appear so that questions about the betrayal of the interests of the state and the Russian population are not asked.
    1. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 9 December 2022 21: 20
      +1
      I think that you yourself perfectly understand which of the two options you proposed is correct. It is enough to recall the events of the current year.
  48. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 9 December 2022 21: 17
    -7
    Quote: Karabin
    President of the Russian Federation:

    It turns out that they (Ukraine) were not going to fulfill all these Minsk agreements. The point was only to pump up Ukraine with weapons, to prepare for hostilities.

    The President pointed out that in connection with this, a special military operation should probably have been launched earlier.

    Vladimir Putin:

    We thought that we could agree on everything within the framework of the Minsk agreements.


    After these words, Putin is a simpleton. Either he wants to appear so that questions about the betrayal of the interests of the state and the Russian population are not asked.


    A smart person differs from an idiot in that a smart person has suggestions and an idiot has questions! drinks
  49. My name
    My name 9 December 2022 21: 28
    +1
    One would like to ask a question to all our diplomats and officials who have been saying for 8 years that this crisis has only a diplomatic solution. But all the common people knew that this crisis had only a military solution.
  50. Godzila
    Godzila 9 December 2022 22: 21
    -3
    Merkel betrayed both Kolya and Putin .. That witch is "the former head of the Friendship with the USSR organization in the GDR
    These are the most dangerous .. Before death, everyone began to say what and how.
    So guys, we wet the Ukronatsiks to the fullest, there’s no other way.