German armored vehicles ATF Dingo for Ukraine

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German armored vehicles ATF Dingo for Ukraine
ATF Dingo of the ground forces of the Bundeswehr


In the order of military-technical assistance, Germany is transferring various armored vehicles to Ukraine. So, the latest packages included fifty multi-purpose ATF Dingo vehicles. Ukrainian formations have already mastered such equipment, and its deliveries have already been completed or are nearing completion. It is assumed that German armored cars will cover part of the needs of the recipient, but other results cannot be expected.



Used armored cars


The possibility of sending armored vehicles from the presence of the Bundeswehr to Ukraine has been discussed almost since the spring, but real measures of this kind were taken only recently. In mid-September, the German Ministry of Defense officially announced its intention to transfer 50 Dingo multi-purpose armored vehicles to the Kyiv regime. It was noted that the decommissioning of such a quantity of equipment would not have a negative impact on the state of the German army.

Until the end of September, the Bundeswehr was supposed to start training Ukrainian crews. It was also necessary to find the required amount of equipment and prepare it for shipment. At the same time, the exact dates for the transfer of armored cars were not called - mainly because of secrecy.

In early October, it became known that the Ukrainian military was being trained at the Wildflecken training center (Bavaria). New technology masters 100 people. - one driver and commander-gunner for each armored car. Over the next few weeks, they were supposed to complete their training and return to Ukraine along with new foreign equipment.

Armored cars were divided into several batches. So, the first 30 cars came to Ukraine in October-November. For the first time, such equipment was seen in the Ukrainian troops on November 21, during the festive events on the occasion of the day of the airborne assault troops. Several German armored cars were shown along with other equipment of this type of troops.


The German Ministry of Defense regularly publishes up-to-date information on military-technical assistance for Ukraine. According to the latest data released on December 7, the remaining 20 Dingo armored vehicles were recently handed over to the Kyiv regime. Thus, the delivery of fifty cars is completed. Whether Germany will allocate new armored vehicles has not yet been reported.

It is known that imported vehicles have already ended up in Ukrainian formations and, at a minimum, they are preparing to work in the combat zone. The destruction of such equipment has not yet been reported. Nevertheless, it is obvious that attempts to use it will be accompanied by losses. At the same time, due to a sufficiently large number of Dingos, they will regularly get into reports.

protected vehicle


The future Dingo armored car was developed by Krauss-Maffei Wegmann in the first half of the nineties by order of the Bundeswehr. The army wanted to get a protected vehicle for transporting people or goods, as well as a platform for placing weapons or special equipment. The main requirements for the future armored car were reflected in the official designation Allschutz-Transport-Fahrzeug (ATF).

The first prototypes of the new armored car were tested in 1995. Over the next few years, KMW worked out and improved the design, and also prepared production. In 2000, the Dingo armored car was adopted by the Bundeswehr, and at the same time, deliveries of serial vehicles began. Over the next few years, approx. 150 of these armored cars.

Having completed work on the first version of Dingo, the development company took up the modernization project. Updated Dingo 2 armored car in 2003-2004 passed the necessary tests, and soon got into the troops. In production, it replaced its predecessor. This time, larger orders came in; in total, several hundred Dingo-2s were assembled.


The main customer of the armored cars of the Dingo series were the German armed forces and law enforcement agencies. For them, armored vehicles were built in the original transport configuration, as well as command and staff vehicles, reconnaissance vehicles, ambulances, radar carriers and communications equipment, etc. Eight more foreign countries bought equipment of individual modifications or received it from Germany in order to help.

According to The Military Balance 2022, until recently, there were less than 250 Dingo 2 armored vehicles in the Bundeswehr units. More than 200 vehicles of this type were registered with the Joint Support Forces. It is also known that the Federal Police has at least 120-150 armored cars. As a result of decisions on assistance to Ukraine, the fleet of the armed forces will be reduced by 50 units.

Technical features


The armored car ATF Dingo is a two-axle all-wheel drive protected vehicle capable of transporting people or operating as a platform for special equipment. The length of the vehicle, depending on the modification, is 5,4 or 6,1 m. The combat weight is from 8,8 to 12 tons.

To simplify production, armored cars were made on finished chassis. So, the first version of the Dingo was based on the chassis of the Unimog S5000 truck, and the upgraded one was built on the more advanced Unimog U5000. Such chassis are equipped with 215-235 hp diesel engines. and transmission with the issuance of power to all wheels. A maximum speed of more than 90 km / h is provided with a cruising range of at least 1000 km.

Both variants of the Dingo have a welded armored bonneted hull with a protected cockpit and a partially armored cargo platform in the stern. The armor corresponds to class 3 of the NATO standard - the case protects against 7,62-mm rifle bullets or undermining 8 kg of TNT.


In the basic configuration of the vehicle, the Dingo is equipped with a remote-controlled turret with a normal caliber machine gun. It is possible to mount a heavy machine gun, grenade launcher or missile system. Some of the German armored vehicles have been upgraded and received more modern remote-controlled combat modules.

The crew of the armored car includes two people, a driver and a commander. The cabin also accommodates four paratroopers. Access to the inside of the machine is provided by side doors. In the cockpit and on the aft platform, the Dingo can carry a total of up to 3-4 tons of payload.

Typical target


In general, the German Dingo 1/2 armored car is a typical representative of its class and has all the characteristic features of such equipment created in recent decades. It is capable of transporting people and cargo, protects them from some threats and can support them with fire. In addition, the Bundeswehr actively used the potential of the car as a platform.

It is obvious that the Ukrainian formations will use the received Dingos as armored personnel carriers and use them directly on the front line. The vehicles will have to transport and accompany the infantry, protect it and support it with machine-gun fire. Such an application is associated with known risks, and in general does not bode well for armored cars.

"Dingo" of both modifications are protected only from rifle bullets and shrapnel. Large-caliber rifle weapon or small-caliber artillery are capable of penetrating existing armor and damaging vital units, as well as causing damage to the crew. The situation is similar with the shelling from anti-tank systems. The armored car has mine protection and is able to save the crew in case of explosion, but at the same time it receives fatal damage.


Thus, practically any meeting of Ukrainian Dingos with Russian armored vehicles on the battlefield will have a predictable result. The machine guns and cannons of our armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, not to mention more powerful systems, will be able to disable or destroy enemy armored vehicles without much difficulty. Accordingly, the enemy infantry will be left without cover and support.

It should also be taken into account that enemy armored vehicles are detected and knocked out not only on the front line, but also in the rear. A certain number of "Dingos" will add to the list of enemy armored vehicles destroyed by rocket and artillery strikes in parking lots, on the march, etc.

Destroying all 50 delivered Dingo ATFs actually becomes a matter of time. The speed and duration of this process depends on the intensity of Ukrainian counter-offensive attempts and on the work of our intelligence to identify targets in the rear. But the overall result is quite clear.

familiar script


Thus, once again a long-familiar scenario is observed. Germany is providing the Kyiv regime with a limited amount of military equipment, which will not be enough to make up for losses and increase combat capability. Even now it is not difficult to determine the potential of such assistance and to imagine the prospects for the supplied machines.

It should be noted that this time the Bundeswehr did not provide Ukraine with outdated equipment, but a completely modern model that generally meets current requirements. However, relative novelty in itself is not able to outweigh the existing negative factors and risks. It will not change the overall situation, and the future of the delivered armored cars remains unenviable.
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  1. KCA
    +5
    12 December 2022 06: 29
    Shaw? Can withstand an 8 kg TNT explosion? Well, nihrenase, in an anti-tank mine 2.5, and then the belly turns into rags, after undermining 8kg of a shell-free non-directional IED, these 12 tons will play grasshopper
    1. +5
      12 December 2022 10: 54
      Quote: KCA
      Withstands blasting 8 kg of TNT?

      Yes. This is a general requirement for machines of this class.
      Quote: KCA
      anti-tank mine 2.5

      2,5 kg is the charge of the worlds TM-72, which should pierce the bottom of the car with a cumulative jet. TM-57 is designed for high-explosive action, for example, and there is 6,5 kg of TNT.
      1. KCA
        -1
        12 December 2022 11: 02
        But not eight, anti-tank, but here is BA
        1. +2
          12 December 2022 11: 39
          American M19, there are even more.

          Once again. Yes, the BA must withstand the explosion of an anti-tank mine. To do this, its creators are not weakly confused. The muzzle will be torn off along with the engine, but the crew capsule should remain relatively intact.
    2. 0
      13 December 2022 15: 11
      hull problem .. tracked vehicles have a flat hull + rollers, as a result, the whole explosion goes up, and MCIs have a V-shaped bottom, which reduces the impact of the blast wave
  2. -10
    12 December 2022 06: 50
    The author rightly said - they dispose of miscarriages of fashion for MRAPS, suitable only to guard caravans with oil rubbed by the owner, sometimes being blown up on land mines by bearded men in slippers. It is all the more unsuitable for war either in Europe or in Ukraine. Well, bezrybe and they will become cancer
    1. +10
      12 December 2022 12: 03
      Quote from Bingo
      The author rightly said - they dispose of miscarriages of fashion for MRAPS, suitable only to guard caravans with oil rubbed by the owner, sometimes being blown up on land mines by bearded men in slippers. It is all the more unsuitable for war either in Europe or in Ukraine. Well, bezrybe and they will become cancer

      How is it worse than your Tiger, which is actively used by intelligence and MTR units?
      1. -2
        12 December 2022 14: 32
        The fact that it is given out to Ukrainians as an armored car, moreover, an ersatz armored personnel carrier, and a tiger -
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        used by intelligence units and MTRs

        Moreover, all MRAPs are passed off as armored vehicles, although even as BRDMs they are only suitable in the desert or on the road, where ours use them, and the dimensions and maneuverability of an armored CAR are an order of magnitude more adapted to a real war than a shed on wheels
        1. 0
          18 December 2022 12: 18
          Russian DShVs are used by Tigers and even imagine UAZs, Ukrainian DShVs are photographed with Dingo, so what is the problem with NATO MCIs and their use in Ukraine?
    2. -2
      13 December 2022 15: 11
      well, Dingo is a good car, and they deliver exactly what they can .. they scrape the bottom of the barrel
  3. Eug
    +4
    12 December 2022 07: 16
    As for me, it is a close to ideal car for a DRG, especially if it is sufficiently "quiet".
    1. +3
      12 December 2022 07: 35
      The same comments "bad", "tachanka", etc. not long ago wrote and talked about the equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the result is sad. "Dingo" is a well-designed armored car based on a well-known civilian car and is well suited for use in Ukraine. As for the tactics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the use of DRGs on cars, now during the construction of a defense line on our side (ditches, ditches, fortified areas) makes the actions of the DRGs impossible. Or limitedly possible when breaking through our defenses.
      1. +4
        12 December 2022 10: 56
        Quote: Mikhail Maslov
        the use of DRGs on vehicles, now during the construction of a defense line on our part (nags, ditches, fortified areas) makes the actions of the DRGs impossible

        )))
        Do you really think that all 2 kilometers were dug up by this line nedomazhino?
        1. -1
          12 December 2022 12: 53
          I will not paint, construction is underway and the pace is serious, understand we simply have no choice in the literal sense.
        2. 0
          12 December 2022 13: 32
          And there you don’t need 2 km. In the Ukrainian mud, even tracked vehicles feel bad. Wheeled two-axle, there is nothing to do at all. Not to mention the fact that for wheeled vehicles any ditch a couple of meters wide and the same depth is an insurmountable obstacle.
      2. -2
        13 December 2022 15: 13
        it turned out to be enough to saturate the front line with troops and carefully watch ... and you can teach like in the film "9th company" (UG film, but the moment with the sentry is indicative) and that's all .. sharp tackles cannot be done .. the DShK / ATGM / RPG triptych is very difficult snipe at the enemy..
  4. +3
    12 December 2022 11: 10
    .Obviously, the Ukrainian formations will use the received Dingos as armored personnel carriers and use them directly on the front line. The vehicles will have to transport and accompany the infantry, protect it and support it with machine-gun fire.

    )))
    For which I love Russian strategists, and not only couch ones - in plans, the enemy always acts in the way that is more convenient for them. Even if it's absolute madness.

    No, MCIs are not designed for front line combat. Their task is transportation in the near rear (and initially it was generally a technique of the occupying forces in a low-intensity conflict). Maximum DRG transportation.
    1. +1
      12 December 2022 17: 12
      Such MCIs are ideal for the favored Ukrainian "roaming mortar" tactic. The Unimog platform is a cross-country ability like a tractor. There is a body - that means we load mines, hook up a 120mm mortar and take a drone to adjust the fire.
      1. +4
        12 December 2022 18: 47
        Quote: Torvlobnor IV
        then we load mines, we hook up a 120mm mortar

        There, 105mm howitzers also appeared in the "little, late, useless" cycle.
      2. 0
        13 December 2022 23: 32
        But these elephants weigh from eight to 12 tons, which Unimag weighs at least half?
    2. 0
      13 December 2022 13: 38
      Well, actually, among the Ukrainians, MCIs quite go on the attack along with tanks and infantry fighting vehicles.
    3. -2
      13 December 2022 15: 15
      maybe they are intended, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to play swoops throughout the second half of the summer and the beginning of autumn.
      1. 0
        13 December 2022 15: 23
        Quote: Barberry25
        throughout the second half of the summer and the beginning of autumn, they tried to play swoops.

        Are you talking about the Kharkiv region and Kherson? These were not attacks, but seepage in small groups. By the way, hummers were used for this, which are much weaker in terms of protection.
        1. -2
          13 December 2022 15: 54
          from the point of view that the mrap, that the armored hummer is somewhere nearby, and even now the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the lack of full-fledged armored vehicles use MCIs when trying to "reconnaissance in force" and their "frog jumps" ..
          1. 0
            13 December 2022 18: 29
            So reconnaissance in combat does not imply an oncoming tank battle, as the author would like
            1. -2
              13 December 2022 19: 00
              well, it seems not about an oncoming tank, but about a meeting with an infantry fighting vehicle / armored personnel carrier .. and there is already a caliber from 14,5. In fact, this is an ordinary mrap, from an interesting combat module and that's it
  5. +4
    12 December 2022 11: 51
    "But the overall result is quite understandable" - the author, the overall result was clear to you back in February. Well, how is it after almost 10 months with the results then?
    1. -4
      12 December 2022 12: 42
      The overall result was clear then and even more so now. Only if at the beginning there was hope that Ukraine would somehow exist. Now these hopes have practically disappeared.
      1. -3
        12 December 2022 19: 32
        Very interesting point of view, yes. Well, when will this happen? Probably after you personally arrive at the trenches along Bakhmut?)
        1. +1
          12 December 2022 22: 53
          Ohh the style of internet warriors. It would seem that what I and Bakhmut have to do with it. Hello cspo).
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  6. -2
    12 December 2022 13: 27
    The Germans apparently forgot what Russian (Ukrainian) dirt is, although a lot has been written about it. Even an armored personnel carrier - 80 gets stuck in the Ukrainian mud, on four leading bridges. Two-axle vehicles have nothing to do there at all, a maximum of 20 meters from the asphalt, so that later they can be pulled out.
    1. 0
      12 December 2022 16: 20
      And what, dirt right 12 months a year? I just looked at Yandex weather, so January-February there is a steady minus, and then from the end of April +18. I mean, maybe a third of the year Dingo will really be unusable, but the remaining 2/3 of the year is very usable
      PS. And yet, in terms of cross-country ability, Dingo is not inferior to our Tiger. Does this mean that the Tiger is not a good car?
      1. +1
        12 December 2022 22: 16
        A two-axle vehicle, by definition, cannot be an all-terrain vehicle, and if you compare it with an infantry fighting vehicle or MTLB, then it remains only to hug and cry this "dingu". Have you ever tried to push the ZIL-131 out of the mud "up to your knees"? Practice, then tell. The "Tiger" is a specific vehicle, for specific tasks, and we are talking about simple infantry. If you plan military operations on the basis of solid ground today, then we are at war, tomorrow mud means we are resting, it is better not to start a war at all. You can read Guderian.
  7. 0
    12 December 2022 21: 47
    German pedantry comes up against...
  8. +1
    13 December 2022 07: 20
    We ourselves would do well to saturate the army with something bigger than the Tiger and well protected. Why only the Akhmat battalion receives Akhmat. The car was created in record time, and the Ministry of Defense titi crumples. To hell with your Typhoons! Build what you need now and quickly!
    1. 0
      13 December 2022 15: 16
      well, mraps go to the troops, it’s just that the deployment of massive production takes time .. but the same Shot with a 30 mm combat module is very good
  9. 0
    24 February 2023 11: 04
    They show that a bunch of such armored vehicles and MRAPs are sent to Ukraine. And on the video of the fighting by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, civilian pickups and vans often appear as tow trucks and equipment carriers.

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