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Western edition: Ukraine demilitarized by the Russian army and now completely dependent on outside military support

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Western edition: Ukraine demilitarized by the Russian army and now completely dependent on outside military support

In the material of the Western magazine Newsweek, an article was published in which observers write about the situation in Ukraine. The article of this publication notes that one can talk a lot about the fact that the situation is uncertain, that the Russian army is “demoralized”, but in fact the circumstances are such that it was the Russian army that did everything to demilitarize Ukraine. And now Ukraine no longer depends on itself.


The authors of the material, David Rundell and Michael Gfeller, note that the demilitarization of Ukraine, in the form in which it was at the time of the start of the Russian special operation, has indeed been carried out. By now, Kyiv is completely dependent on military and military-technical support from outside.

The Newsweek article notes that Ukraine has practically exhausted its own arsenals.

From the article:

Russia both possessed and continues to possess the most modern weapons, and the Russian army is far from demoralization, despite all the statements of a number of Western sources.

The authors, referring to the statements of the head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, write that "Ukraine has done everything possible", adding that now it's time to do the main thing - to stop the suffering of our own people.

From the article:

It is time to end the suffering of the Ukrainian people in a conflict that Ukraine is unlikely to win without risking the lives of Americans. Therefore, a truly moral act would be to end the war right now by negotiations.

The authors directly say that the more active the escalation of the Ukrainian conflict, the higher the risks for the United States itself.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 8 December 2022 06: 10
    -2
    the more active the escalation of the Ukrainian conflict, the higher the risks for the United States itself.
    According to the saying: two fight, the third does not interfere, otherwise you will get a sopatka from both! (Ideally!)
    1. KAV
      KAV 8 December 2022 07: 48
      +3
      Negotiations again? No, when these vile and deceitful non-partners start talking about negotiations, then wait for another deception! If the advantage was on their side - a fig with two, they would talk about negotiations!
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 8 December 2022 08: 41
        +5
        It's time to end the suffering of the Ukrainian people... no risk to American lives

        This is the KEY phrase
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 December 2022 06: 17
    +6
    Newsweek
    Russia both possessed and continues to possess the most modern weapons, and the Russian army is far from demoralization, despite all the statements of a number of Western sources.
    The time is coming when the Western media, plucking up the courage, begin to write about the real state of affairs, and not repeat after some politicians the victorious slogans about "Ukraine's victory on the battlefield." And the number of such articles will only grow, regardless of the claims against them and the statements of the Ukrainian side.
    1. B-15
      B-15 8 December 2022 06: 27
      +10
      This is not an epiphany.
      This is an attempt to fix the current territorial status quo.
      The puppeteer sees that by spring the situation will be completely different. Russia will own several more regions.
      Here they are in a hurry.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 8 December 2022 06: 34
        +2
        This is not an epiphany.
        And I did not write about "epiphany". This is just a statement of facts, forced under certain conditions, which was practically impossible a couple of months ago.
        1. dmi.pris1
          dmi.pris1 8 December 2022 06: 44
          +5
          The demilitarization of Ukraine is now the execution of sentences for war criminals in Kyiv.
          1. Russian Patriot
            Russian Patriot 8 December 2022 06: 53
            -11
            For Putin, they are partners. Already several times it was possible to hit Zelensky with a rocket while he was in Izyum, Kherson, Slavyansk.
            Have you forgotten what they did with the captured mercenaries and Azov people? We had real Nazi criminals in our hands. Some of them killed our people on camera. Nothing to be ashamed of. And what?
            Everyone was sent home.
            1. Stepan
              Stepan 8 December 2022 08: 47
              -2
              Are you angry, almost like an opposing side?
          2. Sith
            Sith 8 December 2022 07: 56
            -2
            Even the trendsetters on invasions and coups, the Americans ... did not beat any leader and his residences)
            There is something about the issue of geopolitics ... in the Second World War too ... the Reichstag was stormed ... and not bombed ... although the sky was already controlled by the allied forces
            1. topol717
              topol717 8 December 2022 21: 25
              0
              Quote from Sith
              Even the trendsetters on invasions and coups, the Americans ... did not beat any leader and his residences)

              Well, well, what about the recent statement by the United States that their super drone cut into pieces someone there, either in Afghanistan or in Iraq.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 8 December 2022 06: 19
    +4
    "Ukraine has done everything possible," adding that now it's time to do the main thing - to stop the suffering of its own people.
    Newsweek journalists offer Ukrainian authorities to surrender.
    1. Kotofeich
      Kotofeich 8 December 2022 08: 52
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      Newsweek journalists offer Ukrainian authorities to surrender.

      It would be nice if the authors of the articles gave links to the source. And then I "ran" through yesterday's issue of Newsweek and did not find anything like that. request
      1. igork735
        igork735 8 December 2022 12: 26
        0
        Newsweek.
        Lessons From the US Civil War Show Why Ukraine Can't Win | Opinion
        MICHAEL GFOELLER AND DAVID H. RUNDELL
        ON 12/6/22 AT 9:30 AM EST
        The article is so-so. An essay on a free topic.
        1. igork735
          igork735 8 December 2022 12: 54
          0
          Newsweek.
          Lessons From the US Civil War Show Why Ukraine Can't Win | Opinion

          MICHAEL GFOELLER AND DAVID H. RUNDELL
          ON 12/6/22 AT 9:30 AM EST
        2. Kotofeich
          Kotofeich 8 December 2022 13: 58
          0
          Quote from igork735
          The article is so-so. An essay on a free topic.

          It is clear that this is an essay and the private opinion of individuals, but common sense seems to be there.
          “Some have presented this conflict as a moral game between good and evil, but the reality is more complex. Ukraine is not a thriving democracy. It is an impoverished, corrupt, one-party state with extensive censorship, where opposition newspapers and political parties were shut down. Before the war, far-right Ukrainian nationalist groups such as the Azov Brigade have been strongly condemned by the U.S. Congress. Kyiv's determined campaign against the Russian language is similar to the Canadian government's efforts to ban the French language in Quebec. Ukrainian shells have killed hundreds of civilians in the Donbas, and reports of Ukrainian war crimes are emerging. True The moral course of action would be to end this war through negotiations, not to prolong the suffering of the Ukrainian people in a conflict they are unlikely to win without risking American lives."
  4. Comrade
    Comrade 8 December 2022 06: 27
    +2
    Ukraine demilitarized by the Russian army and now completely dependent on outside military support

    It's time for the "popular decision" to start tearing down the bridges over which Western weapons flow like a river to left-bank Ukraine.
    NATO experience in Yugoslavia to help Surovikin.
    1. Cheshire
      Cheshire 8 December 2022 06: 38
      -2
      Right now it is no longer necessary. By spring, the situation will change radically, and bridges will be needed for throws to the right bank. It will be problematic to liberate Kherson and Zaporozhye without bridges. hi
      1. FoBoss_VM
        FoBoss_VM 8 December 2022 06: 54
        -10
        Do you think that they will release something?
        1. Stepan
          Stepan 8 December 2022 08: 50
          +1
          Do you think not--?
          1. FoBoss_VM
            FoBoss_VM 8 December 2022 13: 14
            0
            Russia has a lot of work to do to liberate the occupied lands. This was stated by the press secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov, whose words are quoted by TASS.

            In addition, the Kremlin spokesman noted that there is no talk of annexing any new territories during a special operation in Ukraine.

            This is a quote from Peskov
      2. Zefr
        Zefr 8 December 2022 09: 12
        +2
        bridges will be needed for throws to the right bank

        All the same, the retreating will not leave them. so what to expect?
        1. Cheshire
          Cheshire 8 December 2022 09: 14
          -2
          Quote: Zefr
          All the same, the retreating will not leave them. so what to expect?

          Well, I think no one canceled the landing.
        2. Alex Nevs
          Alex Nevs 8 December 2022 17: 21
          0
          And who said that there will be retreating? They pour into their ears about victories .. they put a rod on the rampage, and there they were quietly dumped (demilitarized). As everything is over, there will be no one to retreat .. and undermine too. HPP is not for you.
      3. PAUL 7
        PAUL 7 8 December 2022 17: 36
        0
        When we approach the bridges --- the Armed Forces of Ukraine will blow them up themselves! And while they carry.
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 8 December 2022 06: 29
    +1
    Ukraine has done everything possible,” adding that now it’s time to do the main thing – to end the suffering of our own people.

    Isn't it time to surrender to the Ukronazi regime in Kyiv... there are three months of cold weather ahead without electricity, water, heat, sewerage.
    1. Cheshire
      Cheshire 8 December 2022 06: 40
      +3
      Only the goyim sit without benefits, it's too early to give up.
  6. DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 8 December 2022 06: 37
    +7
    Ukraine demilitarized by the Russian army and now completely dependent on outside military support

    By association: Ukraine will be denazified when it is completely dependent on the supply of Nazis from outside.
  7. evgen1221
    evgen1221 8 December 2022 06: 43
    0
    Well, in principle, he is right, the further the worse for the states, because their loss is there, a lot of things will pull for this and gigimonize the hotz. And this will be possible subject to their conditions, i.e. the withdrawal of our troops and reparations to urine,
  8. YOUR
    YOUR 8 December 2022 06: 44
    +8
    It is time to end the suffering of the Ukrainian people in a conflict that Ukraine is unlikely to win without risking the lives of Americans. Therefore, a truly moral act would be to end the war right now by negotiations.

    The authors directly say that the more active the escalation of the Ukrainian conflict, the higher the risks for the United States itself.

    In general, Katz offers to surrender. And surprisingly, this time he is surprisingly right.
  9. Russian Patriot
    Russian Patriot 8 December 2022 06: 46
    +4
    I read some bullshit.
    And when was Ukraine independent of supplies from outside?
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 8 December 2022 07: 18
      +2
      Quote: RussianPatriot
      And when was Ukraine independent of supplies from outside?

      +++ They always milked someone smile
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 8 December 2022 07: 14
    +2
    Western edition: Ukraine demilitarized by the Russian army and now completely dependent on outside military support
    What does "demilitarized" mean? they pulled on old stocks, still of Soviet times, and, by and large, they themselves did nothing, although they tried to repair some things ... but this is minuscule, it did not affect combat effectiveness in any way!
    Okay, repair enterprises, the power industry was finished off, but weapons were supplied to them from the outside before and nothing, in principle, has changed ...
    They are armed, motivated and dangerous!!!
    There is a lot of work ahead and it won't be easy, that's all.
    1. dnestr74
      dnestr74 8 December 2022 07: 42
      -3
      Strugna, Neptune, Bucephalus riveted on the knee? Stop making idiots out of the enemy!!!!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 December 2022 07: 46
        0
        The above could not fundamentally affect anything, for objective reasons ...
  11. New-pechkin
    New-pechkin 8 December 2022 07: 30
    +4
    Russia both possessed and continues to possess the most modern weapons, and the Russian army is far from demoralization, despite all the statements of a number of Western sources.
    The original is written like this, it seems similar, but there is a nuance: “Now Russia has transferred its economy to a war footing, called up reserves and gathered hundreds of thousands of military personnel, including both conscripts and volunteers. This army is equipped with the most modern Russian weapons and, contrary to numerous reports from the West , far from demoralization" And the comments there, of course, are still the same.
    1. solar
      solar 8 December 2022 12: 09
      -2
      And can you give a link? You can't wait from VO ...
      1. New-pechkin
        New-pechkin 8 December 2022 13: 10
        0
        Easy, here: https://www.newsweek.com/lessons-us-civil-war-show-why-ukraine-cant-win-opinion-1764992
  12. alexey_444
    alexey_444 8 December 2022 07: 31
    -1
    Putin said, Putin did, and some began to laugh about the goals of the operation, demilitarization passed, denazification too (when the Nazis pretend to be ordinary soldiers, this is already denazification in the brains, and those who are to the end ... the end of them is coming. And most importantly, now Ukraine is supported the west and not us. Belarus is enough for us.
  13. Bingo
    Bingo 8 December 2022 07: 32
    0
    This was what was discussed - as a military machine, theft ceased to exist. From now on and forever it's just an ordinary gang. What is noticeably better - when choosing between an inadequate army near its borders, which can easily stun a Point around the city or a Beech on a liner, and a Wild Field with gangs of nomads - nomads are easier. They just regularly write out trendsets and drive them away from the border.
  14. Uprun
    Uprun 8 December 2022 07: 54
    0
    The insight came that the GDP today is talking on the outskirts of "Geraniums", then for a dialogue with the striped ones only the Sarmatians, and this is something else.
  15. Epaulettes
    Epaulettes 8 December 2022 07: 55
    -4
    I do not know.
    Strelkov returned directly from the scene. And he has a different opinion about the prospects for Ukraine in the conflict.
  16. VLAD-96
    VLAD-96 8 December 2022 08: 29
    +1
    Quote: Cheshire
    bridges will be needed for throws to the right bank

    Do you think they will not destroy them during the retreat? What's the point of keeping them?
    It is necessary to destroy all the bridges along which reinforcements are coming for them!
    1. Cheshire
      Cheshire 8 December 2022 09: 17
      0
      Refresher your memory of how ours captured the Antonov bridge in Kherson in February. hi
  17. Arkady007
    Arkady007 8 December 2022 08: 38
    0
    This means that the next phase of the NWO on the demilitarization of NATO is coming.
  18. Boniface
    Boniface 8 December 2022 09: 15
    +1
    Excellent! good
    The first part of the Marlezon ballet is over!
    Now tasks for the future:
    - Cut off the Pig Reich from the supply of weapons from the outside;
    - Carry out denazification.
    soldier
  19. fa2998
    fa2998 8 December 2022 09: 19
    +1
    Quote: B-15
    . Russia will own several more regions.

    So far, not a single region has been completely liberated in Russia. It is too early to draw hasty conclusions. hi
  20. T800-101
    T800-101 8 December 2022 09: 44
    +2
    Quote from Sith
    Even the trendsetters on invasions and coups, the Americans ... did not beat any leader and his residences)

    Tell that to Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi.
  21. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 8 December 2022 13: 24
    0
    Do not create any laudatory or contrary propaganda aimed at undermining the morale of the Russian side. Get to work. 1 Complete destruction of the Ukrainian energy system. 2 Complete the training and equipping of the reserve squad. 3 Make inexpensive drones like Geran-2 and buy more, as a priority, missiles capable of overcoming Ukrainian air defense, which will undoubtedly be strengthened. 4 Put the army in a defensive position with strong fortifications in favorable areas to bleed the enemy