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The President of the Russian Federation made it clear that he supports the idea of ​​paying reparations by Ukraine for the damage caused to new regions of the country

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The President of the Russian Federation made it clear that he supports the idea of ​​paying reparations by Ukraine for the damage caused to new regions of the country

The Russian President commented on the scale of the destruction that the Kyiv regime inflicted on the Donbass.


During the meeting of the Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights, the figures of the approximate financial damage caused by the troops of Ukraine to the DPR and LPR were announced. Elena Shishkina, representing the Free Donbass public movement, noted that since 2014, more than 10 claims against Ukraine for compensation for such damage have been filed with the ECHR in connection with the actions of Ukrainian troops to cause damage from the Donbass republics. None of these claims was considered by the court on the merits, not to mention the satisfaction of appeals.

The total damage caused by Ukraine to Donbas since 2014 exceeds 1,3 trillion rubles.

Commenting on this information, Vladimir Putin spoke in favor of raising the issue of reparations for the deeds of Kyiv. The President noted that compensation for damage by Ukraine would definitely not be superfluous, including in relation to other new Russian regions. At the same time, the head of state focused on the following: there is no point in waiting for payments from Kyiv now, and therefore it is necessary to deal with the provision of assistance and support to people, including those who were left homeless as a result of shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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  1. voice of reason
    voice of reason 7 December 2022 21: 11
    -1
    Yes, that's how it is. Do not count your chickens before they are hatched. Jumped jumped west supporting the bloody parsley, and look how everything turns. First, Little Russia will pay reparations, and then it will probably come to those who supported it and pumped it up with weapons. Whose shells were flying across the Donbass? Whose missiles? please fix everything as it was and pay compensation for the dead. All involved. All eurokodla!
    1. Canep
      Canep 7 December 2022 21: 18
      +8
      Reparations is one of the results of a peace treaty or a surrender treaty, these documents also prescribe the border, the return of prisoners, the return of refugees, and much more. The essence of it all is CONTRACT. With whom on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR can you negotiate? Are two minks not enough?
      1. Nikolay310
        Nikolay310 7 December 2022 21: 37
        -14
        I want to remind you that it was not Hitler who signed the act of unconditional surrender of Germany ... but Soviet Russia and the allies pushed for the signing of this act by active actions on the fronts. and not the opening of turkey farms and reductions in the limits for legionnaires in hockey ... Nanogeny does anything, but not the front ... and the rest of his plywood is nothing at all ... they don’t let you play biathlon, and nothing else is interesting
      2. Graz
        Graz 7 December 2022 21: 38
        +6
        why negotiate? Those territories that the country's leadership is not going to invite into the Russian Federation should be completely deindustrialized, that is, all production, all construction and other equipment should be removed from them, they should live in the 18th century
      3. Barberry25
        Barberry25 7 December 2022 21: 48
        -3
        Well, the idea has been floating around for a long time that Ukraine will eventually be 4 regions .. and the rest will be sorted out by others
        1. neworange88
          neworange88 7 December 2022 22: 07
          +13
          The whole joke is that Ukraine thinks about Russia the same way you think about Ukraine, and unfortunately we ourselves gave reasons for her to think so. And they don’t share the skin of an unkilled bear, just as they don’t say gop until they jump over. There are a lot of ideas floating around.
          1. skeptick2
            skeptick2 7 December 2022 22: 49
            -2
            Quote from: neworange88
            Here the main question is who will outlive whom, he will embody ideas

            If it’s true what they tell us today from every iron (namely: that Russia is at war with the whole NATO bloc, then the question is who will survive whom (more precisely, who will be the winner in the end) - Russia or the entire NATO blocmay turn out to be rhetorical.
          2. Barberry25
            Barberry25 8 December 2022 00: 03
            +2
            1) there, even without our actions, they are constantly trying to divide us .. what kind of wild love to feel sorry for yourself and cry about how bad we are?
          3. YOUR
            YOUR 8 December 2022 03: 42
            +1
            Putin said that the cost of the SVO can be a lengthy process

            https://ok.ru/video/4166723963520

            https://ok.ru/video/4166723897984
        2. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 7 December 2022 22: 14
          -2
          Reparations... Hm. In the country of unicorns, fairies and fluttering pink elephants, they continued to dream of "victories" and "reparations" ... They write correctly here: "they count chickens in the fall." It is still unknown who and to whom "reparations" will pay. And will he pay at all ... maybe there will be no one to pay ... request
          1. neworange88
            neworange88 7 December 2022 22: 27
            +1
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            Reparations... Hm. In the country of unicorns, fairies and fluttering pink elephants, they continued to dream of "victories" and "reparations" ... They write correctly here: "they count chickens in the fall." It is still unknown who and to whom "reparations" will pay. And will he pay at all ... maybe there will be no one to pay ... request


            Well, after Kherson and gestures of goodwill, they will definitely pay reparations. Keep your pocket wide.
            1. Pantsuy
              Pantsuy 8 December 2022 06: 05
              +1
              Our commander-in-chief is too optimistic. In order to demand some kind of reparations, it is necessary to win the war, and not broadcast fairy tales from the rostrum. In the meantime, judging by the situation, Ukraine is much closer to these requirements than we are.
              1. Yaroslavl
                Yaroslavl 9 December 2022 09: 57
                0
                He is not optimistic, he reminds me of Panikovsky with weights, he understood everything a long time ago, but he said saw Shura, saw ... unfortunately I don’t see anything good, what kind of economy, such is the army ... irremovability of power always leads to distortion of information to the dictator
          2. poquello
            poquello 7 December 2022 23: 19
            -1
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            Reparations... Hm. In the country of unicorns, fairies and fluttering pink elephants, they continued to dream of "victories" and "reparations" ... They write correctly here: "they count chickens in the fall." It is still unknown who and to whom "reparations" will pay. And will he pay at all ... maybe there will be no one to pay ... request

            Well, the answer lies on the surface, either the West will pay reparations, etc., or there will be no West, if something, as the Supreme said, we won’t wave a razor in vain
            1. Ivan Ivanov
              Ivan Ivanov 8 December 2022 09: 53
              0
              The Supreme Commander spoke about a retaliatory counter strike and unwillingness to deliver a preventive one. So he agrees to wait for departures and inevitably - private arrivals? But the return of the death penalty is not ready to discuss. A strange feeling from his performances.
              1. poquello
                poquello 8 December 2022 12: 52
                0
                Quote: IvanIvanov
                The Supreme Commander spoke about a retaliatory counterattack and the unwillingness to deliver a preventive one. So I agree to wait for departures

                what? smoke the word "counter"
      4. Amper
        Amper 7 December 2022 22: 02
        -1
        The conditions are dictated by the winner. The point is small, win or participate in the signing. While the ball is on the side of the dill, they play with long passes. what
        1. neworange88
          neworange88 7 December 2022 22: 09
          +9
          Let's be honest, it still doesn't look like we're winning.
          1. poquello
            poquello 7 December 2022 23: 23
            -4
            Quote from: neworange88
            Let's be honest, it still doesn't look like we're winning.

            we cannot fail to win by condition, and then let them scratch their turnips - where did they bring all this, because it will only get worse for the bourgeois
    2. tun5t
      tun5t 7 December 2022 23: 27
      +1
      what reparations? Yes, even from Europeans! :SUP: laughing
      in Rus' there is always a proverb - do not share the skin of an unkilled bear
      We still have a lot of things to do, not to mention the tests, besides, it will be a little better only after 2028 in Rus'.
    3. Stas157
      Stas157 8 December 2022 02: 17
      0
      I don't know if it will work
      before the payment of reparations, but he clarified one point for sure. Ukraine is not going to be included in the native harbor, and completely conquer.
      1. Bratkov Oleg
        Bratkov Oleg 8 December 2022 08: 54
        +1
        Quote: Stas157
        I don't know if it will work
        before the payment of reparations, but he clarified one point for sure. Ukraine is not going to be included in the native harbor, and completely conquer.

        Nevertheless, all built, under construction, and promising early warning radars for missile launches are built in such a way that there is no NATO in Ukraine, and it is not going to attack Russia, even in a nightmare. And the radar construction program is designed for decades ...
    4. Vend
      Vend 8 December 2022 10: 35
      0
      Quote: voice of reason
      Yes, that's how it is. Do not count your chickens before they are hatched. Jumped jumped west supporting the bloody parsley, and look how everything turns. First, Little Russia will pay reparations, and then it will probably come to those who supported it and pumped it up with weapons. Whose shells were flying across the Donbass? Whose missiles? please fix everything as it was and pay compensation for the dead. All involved. All eurokodla!

      And Ukraine will not be able to pay reparations, take the territory good
  2. Reindeer
    Reindeer 7 December 2022 21: 11
    +2
    Hmm, well, in general, a rather optimistic statement :)
    Although it still brings some clarity to the situation, which is good.
    1. Rustic
      Rustic 7 December 2022 21: 25
      +10
      And I think, on the contrary, they will pay / not pay, but the presentation must be thrown. They have been doing this for a long time, and we are changing something. And what the result will be - God sees. But hope in God, but don't make a mistake yourself.
      1. Nikolay310
        Nikolay310 7 December 2022 21: 34
        -11
        and there is nothing more to do than to shake the air ??? maybe finally figure out with plywood and its mums why the second something existed only on photo reports and tank biathlons? about 1,5 million kits to solve the question where are they? No? is it better to continue to soar in the world of pink ponies ???
    2. krops777
      krops777 8 December 2022 04: 02
      -1
      Hmm, well, in general, a rather optimistic statement :)
      Although it still brings some clarity to the situation, which is good.


      Optimistic? Are you seriously? With these words, the GDP just killed me, which means that the Ukraine project will not be closed, well, then calculate the consequences, I hope that he said this without thinking, to the public.
      1. Reindeer
        Reindeer 8 December 2022 11: 28
        0
        Optimism is generally to admit the idea that 404 can pay something to someone. This is straight wild, reckless optimism :)
  3. Alien From
    Alien From 7 December 2022 21: 14
    +4
    With such a policy, it seems that it will be the other way around. belay
    1. Godzila
      Godzila 7 December 2022 21: 34
      -1
      Quote: Alien From
      With such a policy, it seems that it will be the other way around. belay

      Well, the concept of reparations is different for everyone .. The annexation of the same Crimea, it paid off for Russia All these sanctions taken together.
      And new territories, this is just the beginning.
      Everything will be different with the outskirts, they betrayed us too harshly for EVERYTHING ..
      It was in auls and villages that we broke into and began to build dogrogs, tunnels, hospitals, schools, etc.
      And with the outskirts, everything will be the other way around .. Let there be a "buffer" and no shipyards, aircraft factories, tank and other metallurgical, space and aviation industries ..
      Only farms and agriculture, how many workers do you need in Poland?
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 7 December 2022 21: 42
        +2
        Rose-colored glasses will fall off sooner or later. But that's my personal opinion hi
  4. Andobor
    Andobor 7 December 2022 21: 15
    0
    Yes, other regions will pay.
    - There is nothing else.
    1. voice of reason
      voice of reason 7 December 2022 21: 17
      -6
      Well, sometimes it happens with kept women. You have to pay in kind. So after all itself such path chose. Lacy shorts they are that ... determine the consciousness.
    2. sergey32
      sergey32 7 December 2022 21: 37
      +1
      From the bankrupt country only if the skin is torn off. To be liquidated.
  5. on it
    on it 7 December 2022 21: 15
    -3
    Your comment is too short
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  7. Mother Theresa
    Mother Theresa 7 December 2022 21: 16
    -3
    If everything goes as it goes, then rather Russia will burn reparations, and so that the people do not resent, they will call it investment.
    1. Andobor
      Andobor 7 December 2022 21: 23
      +2
      Quote: Mother Teresa
      If everything goes as it goes, then rather Russia will shoot reparations

      Russia has already squeezed out four regions, not counting the Crimea, it needs to be cleaned up, and this is just the beginning.
      1. Mother Theresa
        Mother Theresa 7 December 2022 21: 29
        -8
        Yes, who is against it. But until the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are 10 thousand per day, the situation will not change, a positional dead end. The term pressed the bad better returned.
        1. Andobor
          Andobor 7 December 2022 21: 39
          -10
          Quote: Mother Teresa
          The term pressed the bad better returned.

          Where you returned it - you don’t need to deceive yourself - it is very expensive.
          Of course, you can return it, but then Poland and Finland will have to be returned,
          and there it definitely won’t do without a vigorous loaf.
          1. Epaulettes
            Epaulettes 7 December 2022 21: 42
            -7
            You decided to discredit our President? At the beginning of the NWO, it was stated that Russia would not occupy anything. Are you saying we were lied to?
            So returned or squeezed out, think before you answer.
            1. tun5t
              tun5t 7 December 2022 23: 38
              -6
              Already wrung out ... sorry, they introduced Khersonskaya into the Russian Federation and added something else like (they got it in the teeth and the guys died, we hope not in vain) well, at least he stopped tryndet that he didn’t lose anything and
              didn’t even start at all ... mdaaa ... and thanks for that
          2. Mother Theresa
            Mother Theresa 7 December 2022 21: 44
            -8
            Bandit jargon, well, to each his own.
            1. Amper
              Amper 7 December 2022 22: 07
              -4
              This is OUR jargon, it has power! We will wet in the toilets, as the guarantor said!
      2. Nikolay310
        Nikolay310 7 December 2022 21: 32
        +3
        4 regions? Well, if in the Kharkiv region we occupy a village with 2 houses, then we can assume that we control Kharkov? cool what...

        for reference, the largest cities of the Zaporozhye region and Kherson are, respectively, Zaporozhye and Kherson ... and not Melitopol and Genichesk ... and half of the DPR, as it were, is still under Ukrainians
        1. Andobor
          Andobor 7 December 2022 21: 50
          -11
          Quote: Nikolay310
          and if in the Kharkov region we occupy a village with 2 houses, then we can assume that we control Kharkov? cool what...

          The DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions are the territory of Russia and they will have to be liberated in any case, up to the use of nuclear weapons, which is spelled out in the doctrine for use. And Kharkov will pay reparations.
          1. tun5t
            tun5t 8 December 2022 00: 10
            -7
            in general, it sounds great, but this is as long as the Europithecus are afraid to fight with their troops, our result of the 104-year rule of the atheists in the Kremlin is that there are three times fewer people in comparison with Europe and two times with America (it was under the tsars, on the contrary, there were more times), here only a vigorous loaf saves us, well, or almost saves us, whoever survives will have to flee to Siberia - people are talking about this out of this world.
            1. single-n
              single-n 8 December 2022 09: 13
              0
              Religious people have been sitting in the Kremlin for 30 years. Thousands were opened by temples alone. And they adopted laws to protect the "wretched". What's the point? The Russian Orthodox Church is on the rise, and the people are dying out with terrible force. 500 thousand per year. But all this shobla with candles is standing and everyone is so spiritual, as much as there is nowhere to put a sample.
              Under the godless communists, the population grew.
      3. Yaroslav Tekkel
        Yaroslav Tekkel 8 December 2022 03: 38
        -4
        Where do you come from... Obviously not from Kherson and Zaporozhye.
  8. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 7 December 2022 21: 20
    -3
    Quote: Mother Teresa
    If everything goes as it goes, then rather Russia will burn reparations, and so that the people do not resent, they will call it investment.


    Ruled out. Former Ukrainians will restore Donbass under Russian supervision
    1. Mother Theresa
      Mother Theresa 7 December 2022 21: 25
      -14
      Yes, who is against it. But until the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are 10 thousand per day, the situation will not change, a positional dead end.
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    1. Andobor
      Andobor 7 December 2022 21: 55
      -5
      Quote from aporierti
      I just can't imagine how all these Putin's promises can translate into real action?

      Russia is the only country in the world that can destroy the United States completely,
      and Americans don't want to die. - This is where it all began - the United States climbed into Ukraine, this will all end.
    2. Amper
      Amper 7 December 2022 22: 11
      -1
      And it's not HIS business to embody! No. HE made a promise, let others fulfill or fail. belay Such politeness! hi And after all, he has been at the helm for a long time! So the scheme is working! bully
      1. tun5t
        tun5t 8 December 2022 00: 18
        -2
        Quote: Amper
        And it's not HIS business to embody! No. HE made a promise, let others fulfill or fail. belay Such politeness! hi And after all, he has been at the helm for a long time! So the scheme is working! bully

        and if they drop the archers, they come and throw them out, so the scheme does not work? how do we find out? and when?
        people don’t even watch TV anymore, so as not to see it, most of them are
        1. Amper
          Amper 8 December 2022 14: 28
          0
          The scheme, thank the devil, worked for 30 years. This is a whole generation from 0-la! People watch TV, up to 600 channels, only the buttons flicker. He doesn’t want to think, and probably can’t, he just baptizes earnestly. He is not going to rebel, there is no need, there is no alternative to the talker. Perhaps it will pass! (It will surely carry! Bloody ... belay ). Probably, the DESERVED one will go on vacation himself, the vineyards will already enter into force. bully And the grateful successor will continue, if there is something ... fellow
  10. samarin1969
    samarin1969 7 December 2022 21: 28
    +1
    At the same time, the head of state focused on the following: there is no point in waiting for payments from Kyiv now, and therefore it is necessary to deal with the provision of assistance and support to people, including those who were left homeless as a result of shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


    To whom is this "themselves" addressed?? ... The level of problems there is federal. There is now frost and a Stalingrad landscape. And the order can only be given to yourself and "persons especially close" ...
    1. Carat
      Carat 8 December 2022 00: 26
      0
      Quote: samarin1969
      To whom is this "themselves" addressed?? ... The level of problems there is federal. There is now frost and a Stalingrad landscape. And the order can only be given to yourself and "persons especially close" ...

      And who is Putin? President of Russian Federation. Those. saying "sami" means Russia.
  11. Nikolay310
    Nikolay310 7 December 2022 21: 29
    +3
    someone explain to him that they began to talk about German reparations not near Moscow, but when the Red Army approached Berlin ...

    how did this world get pink ponies ..
    1. Andobor
      Andobor 7 December 2022 21: 59
      -9
      Quote: Nikolay310
      someone explain to him that they began to talk about German reparations not near Moscow, but when the Red Army approached Berlin ...

      Russia has already squeezed out 4 regions, not counting the Crimea, and this will definitely not end.
      1. Carat
        Carat 8 December 2022 00: 30
        -4
        At least the entire left-bank Ukraine.
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  13. kamakama
    kamakama 7 December 2022 21: 33
    +11
    The bear has not only not been killed yet, but it has not been fully understood where it is. But the skin has already begun to be divided
    1. Carat
      Carat 8 December 2022 00: 34
      -9
      Do you doubt the victory of the Russian Federation? In vain. Russia is fighting so far with a limited contingent, unlike Ukraine. But that's just for now.
      1. kamakama
        kamakama 8 December 2022 08: 16
        0
        As soon as it is formulated - what is victory - then we'll talk
      2. Epaulettes
        Epaulettes 8 December 2022 09: 43
        0
        And what is victory?
        Or do you naively believe that if the RF Armed Forces reach the border with Poland and Ukraine joins Russia, everything will end immediately and peace and tranquility will come?
      3. Amper
        Amper 8 December 2022 14: 37
        -1
        Pralno! fellow We haven’t started yet, not at full strength, we take care of fascist geeks, our people will endure everything, there is a lot of time, they have been deliberately slowed down, they are open for negotiations, mobilization is no longer required ... unlike Ukraine belay
  14. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 7 December 2022 21: 34
    -1
    Quote: Nikolay310
    someone explain to him that they began to talk about German reparations not near Moscow, but when the Red Army approached Berlin ...

    how did this world get pink ponies ..


    But does Ukraine have a different version of the development of events? The only question is time, the outcome of the Kyiv regime is already destined, all smart people understand this good
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      1. Plate
        Plate 7 December 2022 22: 00
        +4
        Quote from aporierti
        I only see one picture - if in the near future there is no cardinal change at the front in favor of Russia, then a bubble of internal dissatisfaction with this war will gradually begin to inflate, the goals of which, as Strelkov already said, are not even clear to the generals themselves.

        Rather, everyone will become do not care. Discontent rises from price increases in stores and gas stations, and not from the war itself. If the government manages to keep this growth within the limits already familiar to us, then it will be able to fight for at least 10 years without any "discontent" there.
        1. Epaulettes
          Epaulettes 7 December 2022 22: 09
          +1
          It would be, if not for mobilization.
          Going to die forcibly, when the final goals are not announced and the pests that plundered the budget of the army are not planted, will be less and less without resistance.
          And how did you want? People are forced to go to war, with which there is a high probability of not returning, and then, due to the mediocrity of another military leader, they have to declare gestures of goodwill. The military leader will remain in his place, but no one will return health or life.
          1. Plate
            Plate 7 December 2022 22: 20
            +1
            Quote: Shoulder straps
            It would be, if not for mobilization.

            It's true. Mobilization reduces the likelihood of such a scenario, which is why I consider it a mistake. A contract army could wage a conflict for as long as you like.
            Quote: Shoulder straps
            with a high probability of not returning

            So, where did you get the probability of returning to confidently evaluate it there?
            1. kamakama
              kamakama 8 December 2022 11: 15
              0
              The contract army is not intended for a protracted war. Subject to the REAL probability of death during the year, there simply will not be anyone who wants to, for any money. In any case, no one will run to the machine gun. And this is the experience of the same Vietnam War
              1. Plate
                Plate 8 December 2022 11: 55
                0
                Quote: kamakama
                The contract army is not intended for a protracted war.

                Even as intended. She is different in that she will never get tired of fighting, because she can always say something like: "You get a salary - work." And any conflicts can be resolved with bonuses and salary increases. And the compactness of the army allows the economy to supply the army for a long, long time, without straining.
                Quote: kamakama
                Subject to the REAL probability of death during the year, there simply will not be anyone who wants to, for any money. In any case, no one will run to the machine gun.

                And rightly so - there is nothing to run on a machine gun. First you need to destroy it.
                Quote: kamakama
                And this is the experience of the same Vietnam War

                In Vietnam, conscripts, among other things, fought.
                1. everfreen
                  everfreen 8 December 2022 14: 42
                  0
                  In Vietnam, conscripts, among other things, fought.


                  Yes, and this greatly undermined the credibility of the authorities, the war had to be ended under strong public pressure. Rallies and marches were dispersed by reservists and military men already armed with military weapons.

                  But in that situation it was even more difficult to explain why the soldiers die. They literally captured some kind of peak, held it for 2 days, and then left it to the Viet Cong.

                  At the same time, the government of South Vietnam was absolutely incompetent and created some kind of chaos. The mask "Yes, they are good guys" did not stretch at all and was torn at the seams.
                2. kamakama
                  kamakama 8 December 2022 16: 01
                  0
                  Quote: Plate
                  Even as intended. She is different in that she will never get tired of fighting, because she can always say something like: "You get a salary - work." And any conflicts can be resolved with bonuses and salary increases. And the compactness of the army allows the economy to supply the army for a long, long time, without straining.

                  Well, start with yourself. For what money are you personally - yes, you personally - ready to die? Not "maybe someday", but in the foreseeable future - a month, a quarter, a year. We will pay you money (the value of money is determined conditionally, inflation, everything), but you will have to die. So what's the amount? After all, this is dry arithmetic: we take the term, take the losses, take the total number of troops and calculate the average life time of a fighter in a combat situation. Say, for Stalingrad, it averaged about 2 weeks, if my memory serves me right. There's more here, but still
                  Something is wrong with the contractors. Individuals can be found, such as Wagner. But in piece quantities, and this is not enough. And if you take into account all the 500s, then no economy will be enough to pay that kind of money for a mass army
                  1. Plate
                    Plate 8 December 2022 17: 26
                    0
                    Heh, here you are driving me morality here, only this one is not specifically applicable to contract soldiers. Contractor CAM signs the contract. I haven't signed it yet. In general, 200 per month, subject to free and good feeding and indexing, sounds attractive. So to say, it is quite an option if you suddenly need money. You can stand at the post in the database zone :) But only after preparation, of course. Now I have a stupid physio is not the same.
                    Quote: kamakama
                    And if you take into account all the 500s, then no economy will be enough to pay that kind of money for a mass army

                    So that's why no one in the world has yet made a mass contract army of the level of those that were in WWII or WWII. Even the States, although they have quite a lot of people there.
                    Can you describe in more detail the arithmetic by which you calculated the average lifetime?
                    1. kamakama
                      kamakama 8 December 2022 17: 48
                      0
                      So, again, theorist. That is, 200 thousand is good money, but I personally will not go, this is for professionals. So - the life of a person is priceless for him)) With very rare exceptions. And it will be very difficult to recruit at least one assault battalion if there are daily funerals in every regional center. There are no fools. No one will sign a contract on such terms, and the signatory will terminate
                      Arithmetic? Well, for example - We take 10 thousand people in a particular area, 2 thousand died in 1 month. This means that 10 thousand (100%) will die in 5 months. Here is your life time. Although in practice the probability of 50% is already very high, with losses of 30%, the unit is considered incapable of combat, that is, the rotation in this scenario is monthly. In such a scheme, the price of life is 1 million. Ready? Not even enough for a one-room apartment. Although depending on where, maybe enough. But anyway, not at that price.
                      1. Plate
                        Plate 8 December 2022 19: 49
                        0
                        Quote: kamakama
                        That is, 200 thousand is good money, but I personally will not go, this is for professionals.

                        Well, yes. Someone heals, someone cripples, someone repairs sewer pipes. Everyone has their own challenges. But no one tells you, go try to treat or fix the pipes.
                        Quote: kamakama
                        Not even enough for a one-room apartment.

                        Yes, even for a house in the village enough.
                        And the arithmetic is somehow too linear. There are no coefficients, some degrees? It seems to me that linear conclusions can be more or less confidently drawn only over small intervals. At least that's what the analysis suggests.
                      2. kamakama
                        kamakama 8 December 2022 20: 12
                        0
                        Odds? Yes, please - walking in a trench passes life by 20%, wearing a helmet - by 10% and so on. Only it will not help in each case.
                        What's the point of having a house if you won't be living in it anymore?
                      3. Plate
                        Plate 8 December 2022 20: 43
                        0
                        I hope to survive, then the house. What's difficult? There are also plenty of examples of those who have returned, but you just paint everything as if death is guaranteed to everyone.
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          1. Plate
            Plate 7 December 2022 22: 25
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            During the First World War, RIA had a bunch of other problems that, at least from a conditional sofa, are not observed. There was a shortage of shells, a lag in technology, by the February revolution there were (I don’t know when they began) interruptions in domestic food supplies, it seems. I think that if everything is fine in the stores, and the tummies are full, then with the tacit consent of the majority of the population, possible riots will be vigorously suppressed. Yes, rallies and other la-la are possible, but, as you know, only those who have nothing to lose go to serious measures. They will disperse, and everyone will disperse.
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              1. Plate
                Plate 7 December 2022 22: 56
                -4
                If everything is more or less calm in the rear, and there are enough shells, equipment and people, then you will not lose the war, do not worry. Well, only if you don't want to. Despite the failure of the military policy of the state, expressed by mobilization, I believe that the situation is very far from critical.
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                  1. Plate
                    Plate 7 December 2022 23: 37
                    -1
                    Quote from aporierti
                    Calmly? They almost unraveled a part of Russia's nuclear triad deep in the rear .... It's good that they acted in a small group, otherwise they could have left Russia without strategic aviation at all.

                    In order to leave Russia without strategic aviation, it is necessary to completely dismantle more than one air base. COMPLETELY, I draw your attention. And not to fly one UAV to it. Yes, and I'm not talking about it. I'm talking about the streets. They are calm, there are no strikes and strikes, there are no rallies.
                    Quote from aporierti
                    In current wars, it is not the number of machine gunners that matters, but the availability of space reconnaissance and accurate missiles. With this we are completely seams.

                    With missiles full of seams? Excuse me, but Arestovich started talking about "seams" with missiles back in March, but "seams" have not yet occurred. Something, but Russia definitely has more missiles than Ukraine, despite deliveries.
                    Quote from aporierti
                    And how to convince the mobilized to go to war for some unknown purpose? And even more so to die for no reason ....

                    And how does the state force everyone to do what they do not want? That's right, a club. And he also gives a bun for obedience, so that they do not snap back. Sweet bun - rather big salary. Money is a good motivator for absolutely everything.
    2. Amper
      Amper 8 December 2022 14: 39
      0
      The strong and the wicked will rule, most understand this hi
  15. Blue fox
    Blue fox 7 December 2022 21: 35
    0
    The President made it clear to the HRC…. And then HRCs are completely autistic or what? Don't they understand? Such "to make it clear" are good from the rostrum of the UN. And for those who are especially slow-witted, you can also use your heel on the podium. Then they will hear. Maybe…
  16. digger
    digger 7 December 2022 21: 42
    +1
    The great Leopold dared to support and think about some kind of reparations there .... some kind of disgrace.
  17. Godzila
    Godzila 7 December 2022 21: 44
    -9
    Donbass in Kyiv, Lviv, etc., he will figure out what and how much and for what. Our business is to cover them! Oh, how many claims there are, and especially to Ze and Valtsman
    And us for Shaw? It won’t work anymore .. You will have to keep the answer in full
    And then to the main "hornet's nest" of the world, who provoked all this
  18. Bingo
    Bingo 7 December 2022 21: 53
    -12
    Oh, they will have a template break. Reparations - Urrryaaaaa! - Yes, with us! - Ganbaaaaa! But reparations! - Urryaaaa!
    wassat
  19. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 7 December 2022 21: 54
    -5
    Quote from aporierti
    Quote from BattleToads
    But does Ukraine have a different version of the development of events? The only question is time, the outcome of the Kyiv regime is already destined, all smart people understand this


    I definitely do not belong to the category of smart people. I only see one picture - if in the near future there is no cardinal change at the front in favor of Russia, then a bubble of internal discontent with this war will gradually begin to inflate, the goals of which, as Strelkov already said, are not even clear to the generals themselves.

    And I personally do not see the slightest risk for the Kyiv regime, but our margin of safety is already running out, and if this war is not ended soon, the same thing may begin with the Russian army, which already happened in 1916-17, when in fact the entire army turned out to be demoralized and decomposed, refusing to obey the generals and senior officers, because of which Lenin urgently had to conclude the catastrophic peace of Brest-Litovsk.


    As Comrade Woland said in the famous novel ,, M&M ,, ,, I assure you, but it’s true, drinks
  20. dementor873
    dementor873 7 December 2022 21: 59
    +1
    If only Peskov didn’t blurt out later: these words of the president were taken out of context blah blah blah ...
  21. Third district
    Third district 7 December 2022 22: 06
    +1
    The President of the Russian Federation made it clear that he supports the idea of ​​paying reparations by Ukraine for the damage caused to new regions of the country

    At the beginning, when I briefly read the title, I was horrified. belay I thought that it was written not the payment of reparations by Ukraine, but the payment of reparations to Ukraine. lol
  22. Fangaro
    Fangaro 7 December 2022 22: 19
    +2
    There are already auditors of the reparation committee. And SVO is not finished yet. You need to kick these! To the neck!
    The State Duma and the Federation Council have not yet made a single decision on who to drive. Auditors or those who started publishing news about it in the media.
  23. iouris
    iouris 7 December 2022 22: 34
    +6
    I generally stopped understanding the dramaturgy of the question: is this already a tragedy or a comedy?
    1. certero
      certero 7 December 2022 23: 12
      +3
      Quote: iouris
      I generally stopped understanding the dramaturgy of the question: is this already a tragedy or a comedy?

      This is already a farce.
  24. Yves762
    Yves762 7 December 2022 22: 57
    0
    Quote: voice of reason
    The President of the Russian Federation made it clear that he supports the idea of ​​paying reparations by Ukraine for the damage caused to new regions of the country

    what
    As there somewhere: "... We already soaked him; let's rob him again.!." wassat
  25. certero
    certero 7 December 2022 23: 10
    +3
    “We are working calmly, the troops are moving, reaching the lines that are set as tasks. Everything is going according to plan,” Mr. Putin said.

    I would like to see this plan. Well, at least briefly.
  26. certero
    certero 7 December 2022 23: 17
    +3
    Quote: Plate
    During the First World War, RIA had a bunch of other problems that, at least from a conditional sofa, are not observed. There was a shortage of shells, a lag in technology, by the February revolution there were (I don’t know when they began) interruptions in domestic food supplies, it seems.

    There is one tiny nuance - people are different now. And if the peasants in the RIA could endure for years, then modern man is more intolerant and quickly understands, having got to the front, that the purpose of the war is not clear at all. And without this, an army, even with technical superiority, cannot fight and win.
    But this is not 1917. Bye. And I really do not want to go through another collapse of the country.
  27. opuonmed
    opuonmed 7 December 2022 23: 44
    +3
    Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel in an interview (https://www.zeit.de/2022/51/angela-merkel-russland-fluechtlingskrise-bundeskanzler/komplettansicht) to the German edition of "Die Zeit":

    "The 2014 Minsk Agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time. They used this time to become stronger, which can be seen today. Ukraine of the 2014/15 model is not today's Ukraine. As we could see during the fighting in the Debaltseve region in 2015 "Russia could have easily won then. And I doubt very much that the NATO countries could then have done as much as they are doing now to help Ukraine. It was clear to all of us that this is a frozen conflict, that the problem has not been solved, but that's exactly what and gave Ukraine precious time."
  28. Maks1995
    Maks1995 8 December 2022 00: 21
    +1
    Empty chatter.
    Russia has not recognized the LDNR since the age of 14, i.e. has nothing to do with it.
    And since she didn’t recognize it, she de facto considered it to be Ukrainian territories. pensions there. trade, coal, gas, buses....
    Compared to the separatist Grozny, ground into gray dust - PR, for NVO and hasty joining

    Also, for example, the chatter was about a tribunal about mercenaries - and where is this tribunal and mercenaries????
  29. Kim_Gde_Kogda
    Kim_Gde_Kogda 8 December 2022 01: 50
    0
    Let's not forget the other two regions of Russia. Zaporozhye and Kherson region. Bandera Ukraine will pay for everything!
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  31. Luminman
    Luminman 8 December 2022 03: 52
    -6
    Skakuas must be squeezed like a lemon! I am for reparations!
  32. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 8 December 2022 04: 08
    -2
    Putin could not make a reservation, not in his style. So there will be a treaty or capitulation.
    1. Yaroslav Tekkel
      Yaroslav Tekkel 9 December 2022 21: 01
      0
      Putin could not make a reservation, not in his style. This means that there will be no changes to the Constitution, no increase in the retirement age, and no mobilization. Wait though...
  33. Egeny
    Egeny 8 December 2022 07: 44
    -2
    Quote: voice of reason
    All involved. All eurokodla!

    Yes, "voice_of reason", that's right, only half of the natives have already given up ... well, I said that the vodka is over.) You're right, "in the fall", only the autumn has passed, are we waiting for the next one?
  34. Egeny
    Egeny 8 December 2022 07: 47
    -2
    Quote: tolmachiev51
    treaty or surrender.

    There will be a capitulation of the outskirts, and then we will talk with the West.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 8 December 2022 08: 38
      -1
      There will be a capitulation of the outskirts, and then we will talk with the West.


      Find a better job.
      How do you like this plan?
  35. Egeny
    Egeny 8 December 2022 07: 51
    -3
    Quote: certero
    I would like to see this plan.

    Who's stopping you: Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin, the General Staff... well, if you get there, of course.)
  36. marc75
    marc75 8 December 2022 08: 16
    -1
    Judging by the comments, electricity is partially available in Ukraine, nothing, it will be fixed by NG
  37. Arkady007
    Arkady007 8 December 2022 08: 30
    -1
    Such statements should have been made in 2014.
    It was necessary to learn from the Balts how to whine alms from everyone and for everything.
  38. AdAstra
    AdAstra 8 December 2022 09: 14
    -1
    Of course, there are reporations "karosho", but maybe for the time being we will stop gas / oil / ammonia there to drive everyone through its territory and pay them for it, otherwise we seem to be talking with them, huh? recourse
  39. Egeny
    Egeny 8 December 2022 10: 50
    -2
    Quote: Olezhek
    Find a better job.

    So I'm at work, buddy.)
    It’s you and your friends who are practicing literature ... they would have taught the materiel, otherwise you wipe your pants in the morning.)
    Plus you for the impudence.)
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 9 December 2022 08: 36
      +1
      So I'm at work, buddy.)


      wassat

      well, yes ...
  40. Egeny
    Egeny 8 December 2022 10: 52
    -2
    Quote: marc75
    partially available

    well, not all at once ... you have to let it suffer ...
    and the enemies came running at me again.)
  41. Egeny
    Egeny 8 December 2022 10: 57
    -2
    Quote: Third District
    payment of reparations to Ukraine

    What difference does it make, we still have to restore the outskirts.)
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  43. staer-62
    staer-62 9 December 2022 10: 39
    +1
    Bad news. This means that Ukraine remains and remains hostile to Russia. Ukraine should not remain at all as a state, which means there will be no reparations. Reparations must be exacted from the West. Putin is increasingly out of touch with reality. Here's a recent statement about Bandera has no historical truth, you need to carefully prepare for speeches, Putin's statements are followed to the bottom of every letter and then poked at every occasion.
  44. Egeny
    Egeny 9 December 2022 11: 44
    0
    Quote: Olezhek
    well, yes ...

    c'est la vie.)
    Let's live together.)
  45. Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev
    Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev 9 December 2022 11: 57
    0
    For a very, very long time, Russia has been harnessing the organization of lawsuits against Ukraine, the United States and NATO countries for the murder of thousands of Russian civilians and causing material damage to settlements in the Donbass, Kherson region and Zaporozhye. It is high time to create an international commission and an international tribunal to investigate the crimes of Bandera.