The symbolism of the SS division "Galicia" was recognized by the court in Ukraine as not subject to the law on the prohibition of Nazi ideology

Apparently, the nazification of Ukraine is moving to the next level. If earlier the Kyiv authorities turned a blind eye to various torchlight processions and chevrons with Nazi symbols in some military units, now, apparently, they decided to start recognizing fascism officially.

Yesterday, the Supreme Court of Ukraine confirmed the legitimacy of an earlier ruling by the Institute of National Memory of Ukraine that the symbols of the SS division "Galicia" are not subject to the law prohibiting the communist and Nazi ideology of symbols.

As Ukrainian lawyer Vyacheslav Yakubenko explained, the above standard, as well as other resolutions of the organization, were declared illegal in 2020. Now, the Supreme Court has overturned a two-year-old verdict handed down by the trial court.

Consequently, the resolutions of the Institute of National Memory of Ukraine regained legal force.

Recall that the activities of the UINP are coordinated by the government of Ukraine. The organization is the central executive body, whose activities are aimed at preserving and restoring the national memory of the country.

The decision of the Supreme Court of Ukraine was commented on by people's deputy Maxim Buzhansky, who in 2020 was the initiator of a lawsuit against the UINP. According to the politician, it now allows the institute to make any, literally, “even crazy” conclusions regarding stories.

In particular, the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada noted that, when issuing a scandalous decree regarding the symbols of the SS "Galicia", the UINP did not bother to tell what this military formation was doing and who it served.

The decision of the Ukrainian court is clearly related to the fact that if the law on the prohibition of Nazi ideology is applied to the SS division “Galicia” (“Galicia”), then all textbooks on the history of modern Ukraine will have to be banned, the entire program and the very ideology of this state will have to be reviewed. But the sponsors of the Kyiv regime would definitely not be satisfied with such a scenario today. Yes, and the Kyiv regime itself, which has long grown together with the ideology of Nazism.

For reference: the SS division "Galicia" is an armed formation as part of the Nazi troops. Banned in the Russian Federation as Nazi. It consisted of Ukrainian nationalists who fought allegiance to Hitler and Nazi Germany.

Comments

[rocket757]

The symbolism of the SS division "Galicia" was recognized by the court in Ukraine as not subject to the law on the prohibition of Nazi ideology

Yes, demons, evil spirits, they are not human!
They were created like that, and now they are allowed to do whatever they want ...
It will be hard, bloody, scary ... a lot of work to eradicate this infection!

[Tatyana]

The symbolism of the SS division "Galicia" was recognized by the court in Ukraine as not subject to the law on the prohibition of Nazi ideology

Who will ban themselves in Ukroreikh?! There is no one in power anymore.
Moreover, Ukronazism in Ukroreikh under the Zelensky regime is on financial and nuclear suction from the United States!

[Alexga]

It seems to me that this nonsense is explained by these words from the article: “The decision of the Ukrainian court is clearly related to the fact that if the law prohibiting Nazi ideology is applied to the SS division “Galicia” (“Galicia”), then all textbooks on the history of modern Ukraine will have to be banned , to revise the entire program and the very ideology of this state."

[zloybond]

So we still have not officially recognized the Nazis and terrorists as a terrorist Nazi regime. And Geyropa, who helps them, formally helps the poor people to defend themselves. Maybe it's time for Russia to put an end to ...
Or so we will mumble in words ..... in fact, they never recognized it.

[North Caucasus]

Maybe it's time for Russia to put an end to ...

It was long overdue. It was necessary to start with the opening of the mausoleum, with the recognition of the merits of Lenin and Stalin. It was necessary to place the emblem of the USSR and the emblems of the union republics on May 9. The parade had to be taken under the flag of the USSR and under the portrait of Stalin. That would be the answer to Nazism on the outskirts. And so it turns out that in the 90s we cheated on those years, but it’s like we forbid Kyiv to harass. What is this double standard on our part? From their side, the symbols of Nazism, and from our side there should be the symbols of communism! Moreover, from the high stands we stutter about Russia as a welfare state. So let's get back to the precepts of Christ and communism! What or someone is stopping us today? If they interfere, remove them! Why not? Why not? Are the ideas of communism and socialism equal to the ideas of Nazism? So yes or no?

[Laki_Rusyn]

But nothing is stronger than Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ, no matter how those demon scum are trying, they will ultimately fail!

[Tatyana]

Quote from: Laki_Rusyn

But nothing is stronger than Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ, no matter how those demon scum are trying, they will ultimately fail!

Translation from English.

Quote from: Laki_Rusyn

But there is nothing stronger than Our Dear Lord Jesus Christno matter how hard these demonic scum try, eventually they will fail!

And yet: "Trust in God, but don't make a mistake yourself!", - said the Generalissimo of the Russian army A. V. Suvorov!
Translation into English.
And yet: "Hope in God, but don't be bad yourself!", - said the generalissimo of the Russian army AV Suvorov!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: rocket757

It will be hard, bloody, scary ... a lot of work to eradicate this infection!

My father taught me not to be afraid of blood in my late childhood. I won’t talk about the methods, otherwise they will be banned for promoting violence. but there are ways.
For the rest, he remembered his father’s words and taught his son:

“Blood is not water. If you let it out, you won’t pour it back in. But don’t be afraid to pour it, the same body fluid as everyone else. The main thing is to be afraid to pour it in vain. You will sleep badly later.”

I sleep well so far. Despite all his biography.
So it probably wasn't a waste.

And Bandera blood should not be afraid. They want blood, they get it. I inherited my Afghan finca, a tradition. But my hiking and hunting custom-made, under the owner, the knife is almost always at my fingertips. Cut sausage, lemon for cognac ... But you never know what ...
They, Banderonazis, are no different for me from rabid foxes. If I happen to spill "not water" - and I will continue to sleep without dreams. Because for business.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

They were created like that, and now they are allowed to do whatever they want.

[Sergio_7]

Yesterday, the Supreme Court of Ukraine confirmed the validity of an earlier ruling by the Institute of National Memory of Ukraine that the symbols of the SS division "Galicia" are not subject to the law prohibiting the communist and Nazi ideology of symbols.

This decision of the Nazi country was not at all surprised!

[voice of reason]

Q.E.D. C.T.D. Nazism in Ukraine is not Nazism, SS men are not SS men, and punishers are not punishers. They put everyone in their place and threw a bridge to their spiritual predecessors. Now Ukraine officially supports Nazi symbols and war criminals. The masks are off, evil creeps out in all its disgusting ugliness

[Two]

There Scholz sang about the revival of Germany! "Drang nah Osten - 2"! not otherwise! This is just the beginning...

[Gardamir]

Well, Vlasov symbols are also not prohibited.

[VORON538]

For example, which one? And you don’t need to drag the flag of the Russian Federation here right away. Which is 300 years old. What will you do with the flag of the USSR, if God forbid some terrorist organization appropriates it? Well, as a symbol. Throw it away? The question of symbolism is who and why he appropriates it for himself. In this case, the ideological heirs of the accomplices of the Nazis took the symbols of one of the fascist divisions. Moreover, they clearly follow the cause of their distant ancestors. If you know the story, you will understand what I mean. they pursued the same goals as their current followers. Of course, I'm sorry, but your comment in this case smells bad.

[solar]

Which is 300 years old.

Let's just say the argument is unconvincing. A lot of what the Germans used was used long before them.
The swastika has been in use since the 7th century BC. In Russia and the USSR it was also used
The lion has been a symbol of Lviv since the 14th century. It was a symbol of Lviv both under the Poles before the war, and under the USSR after the war.

[VORON538]

What were the purposes of use, how did the "users" differ from each other? You need to read more carefully. Do not try to justify them, the current followers of the Nazis.

[solar]

It's also a controversial argument. Read the Prague Manifesto of the Vlasovites. As written off from the present time.

[VORON538]

You apparently grabbed too much of Ukrainian history textbooks. Here you have them "warriors of the world", and I have just Natsiks. However, your pro-Ukrainian position has long been known to me.

[solar]

If you want to learn something about history, never read school textbooks. None. The truth in them can only be random.
https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Пражский_манифест

[VORON538]

Your trouble is that I studied according to Soviet textbooks, and you, according to new Ukrainian-Soros textbooks. Here is the result. Fascism is not quite fascism for you, propaganda clearly brainwashed you.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: Gardamir

Well, Vlasov symbols are also not prohibited.

Peter the Great would have been very surprised if he had been told that he had established the "Vlasov flag".
By the way, on the chevrons of the ROA there was an oblique St. Andrew's cross.

[solar]

Tricolor ROA also used, there are photos and videos on this subject.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote from solar

Tricolor ROA also used, there are photos and videos on this subject.

Used, I saw. But it was amateur performance, which was quickly covered up.
As for me, probably so that analogies do not arise, it would be possible to modify the banner.
For example, take the presidential standard as an analogy. With an eagle on the background of the tricolor. As an option.

[solar]

Used, I saw. But it was amateur performance, which was quickly covered up.

Used until the end of the war
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Флаг_РОА_(12.1944).jpg?uselang=ru

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Gardamir

Well, Vlasov symbols are also not prohibited.

St. Andrew's flag is a historical symbol of the Russian Navy. As you know, it is a white cloth with the St. Andrew's Cross - two diagonal stripes of blue, forming an inclined cross. Back in 1699, Peter I approved the Andreevsky flag as the banner of the Russian fleet.
And if Vlasov clings to this flag, then this does not make it prohibited.

[Gardamir]

A typical example of double standards and "this is different" .. So you can say that the swastika is a thousand-year-old symbol, and if Hitler stuck himself ... By the way, he told me. 80s. The port is visible from the auditorium. A dry cargo ship comes in with a swastika on a false pipe ..
I didn’t say anything about flags and other things, it’s just that the traitors pretended to be ideological fighters with the Soviet regime and took the royal symbols for themselves .. The fighters of the Soviet Union staged a coup d’état in 1991-93 also took the royal symbols for themselves

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Gardamir

it’s just that the traitors pretended to be ideological fighters with the Soviet regime and took the royal symbols for themselves ..

All sorts of shit, considers themselves "warriors of light" and takes symbols that do not befit their status. And in fact, they are all frostbitten and non-humans in human form ...

[Incvizitor]

Isn't she banned?
The Nazis have been using this white-blue-white rag for a long time, they are chasing them, but they won’t ban it?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Gardamir

Well, Vlasov symbols are also not prohibited.

And how can you ban it, if the chevron, with which my grandfather did not take prisoner, now we have the State Banner ...
At this rate, in five years Europe (I am deliberately not talking about Ukraine as an independent unit of politics) will be proud of Hitler, just like France is proud of Napoleon today. And in 50 years, with our toothless domestic policy, and lack of ideas, prescribed in the Constitution, we will find "admirers". I won’t live to see and I won’t see - and thank God. As my grandfather, I consider myself happy that he died without seeing "perestroika" and "democracy." And to my son, among other things, I will bequeath my knife, and the son promised me a grandson - I will bring him up as it should, as my father raised me.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoldat_A

chevron, with which my grandfather did not take prisoners, now we have the State Banner

Indeed? Fuckasebe! I did not know that the St. Andrew's Cross became the State Flag (and not the banner) of Russia. I thought that he was only on the flag of the Russian Navy - since Peter I, by the way, with a short break ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote from: nik-mazur

I did not know that the St. Andrew's Cross became the State Flag (and not the banner) of Russia.

The flag has nothing to do with it, when unworthy people tried it on, but simply traitors, covering their betrayal with the great symbols of the Russian people. But punishment overtook them all.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: tihonmarine

The flag has nothing to do with it

You don’t explain it to me, but to those who confuse the flag with the banner, but the Russian tricolor with the St. Andrew’s cross and believe that everything that unclean hands have touched should be disgustedly thrown into the trash. And according to the logic of such irreconcilable fighters, the Soviet banners, probably, should also be branded with Nazi rags, since the German Nazis also had the main color of the flag red.

[tihonmarine]

Quote from: nik-mazur

And according to the logic of such irreconcilable fighters, the Soviet banners, probably, should also be branded with Nazi rags

But there are such people and they live not in the West, but in Russia.

[nik-mazur]

[quote = tihonmarine] [quote = nik-mazur] there are such and they live not in the west, but in Russia. [/ Quote] Here again you speak as if such people live only in Russia and as if we have the majority of them directly . Naturally, in a country with a population of 150 million, there is enough good stuff, but more solid grounds are needed for generalizations.

[tihonmarine]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Here with

So I wrote that - "there are such", and those who live beyond the cordon, let them talk about what they want, that's why he is the West.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Fuckasebe!

My great-grandfathers, grandfathers, my father, I - only eleven people from my family who fought in different wars, did not fight under the tricolor. And I did not take the Oath with this banner. The son is fighting now - so where to go? They don't choose their homeland.

And further.
The country has the national flag.
The soldier has a Battle Banner.
And I took the Oath, kissing not the Flag, but the Banner. And, since the conversation is about enemies and about the war, the use of the word "Banner" looks quite justified.
This is for the lovers burdock cling to words.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoldat_A

The country has the national flag.

I just wrote that there is no such thing as a state banner, right? Moreover, even the Navy has a flag, not a banner. Although, according to the Charter: "The naval ensign hoisted on a ship of the Navy is the Battle Color of the ship."

Quote: Zoldat_A

eleven people from my family who fought in different wars did not fight under the tricolor. And I did not take the oath with this banner

A similar situation was after November 1917, when several million people fought under the red banner, although they took the oath under a different flag. Nothing, survived. And you will survive.
Moreover, the tricolor on the chevrons you showed was not a symbol of the ROA, but of the Russland battalion, which was staffed mainly by emigrants and practically did not participate in hostilities. So, your grandfather is unlikely to have taken prisoners with just such chevrons.
...
By the way, I don’t understand what we will do with the St. Andrew’s cross on the flag of the Navy? Will we brand it with a Nazi rag and a sign of betrayal, or will we remember that this symbol of the Russian fleet dates back to Peter the Great? What is more important, Peter I, who created the Russian fleet, Nakhimov and Ushakov, who won under the banner of St. Andrew, or collaborators who appropriated this symbol?
I am already silent for the fact that the main party of Nazi Germany was called the Nationalsocialist working party. After all, you won’t, on this basis, equate the Soviet Union and the Third Reich, following the example of any Baltic limitrophes, and / or disdain derivatives of the word socialism?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And to my son, among other things, I will bequeath my knife, and the son promised me a grandson - I will bring him up as it should, as my father raised me.

You are right, I am also raising my own, as my father and great-grandfather raised me.

[Paul Siebert]

History is made twice.
The first time - in the form of a tragedy, the second - in the form of a farce ...

[Laki_Rusyn]

Galicians/Galicintzi are disease. Long Live Russia and Putin!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Paul Siebert

The first time - in the form of a tragedy, the second - in the form of a farce ...

The protracted farce, sooner or later, will turn into a tragedy. The Fuhrer Clown and "his neighborhood" are trying to turn a political farce into a divine comedy.

[APASUS]

Quote: tihonmarine

The protracted farce, sooner or later, will turn into a tragedy.

This is only the beginning, only the first call. Then the EU will have to extend this to itself or condemn Ukraine, there is no other way.
And something tells me that they will not condemn Ukraine.

[rotmistr60]

"A raven will not peck out a crow's eye." Therefore, they took the path of almost official recognition of fascism as their national ideology. And Europe, itself mired in this evil, will naturally modestly cover its eyes and, at worst, spread its arms - what to take from "small, not intelligent children."

[Boniface]

Ghouls!
And what will the NSDAP allow now? A nightmare!
NO TO NAZISM!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Boniface

And what will the NSDAP allow now?

But was it once a ban in Ukraine?

[Boniface]

NSDAP, abbr. Translated - NSNRP or NSRPG) - an ultra-nationalist extremist political party in Germany that existed from 1920 to 1945, ...

* Banned in Russia

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Boniface

* Banned in Russia

But in Ukraine it is not prohibited. But with whom their grandfathers and fathers fought in the Red Army, they somehow quickly forgot, the same Zelensky forgot his grandfather, he probably already turned over 6 times in his grave.

[VORON538]

The Nazis in court issued a verdict that they are not Nazis! Masterpiece! It's all the same if the killer judges himself! And the impudent Saxons will support, because they are the main sponsors of the Nazis now and in the past.

[Damir Shamaev]

Well, what, for now we recognize the Nazi state, give them Nazi symbols from captivity, zero sabotage work with their leaders. And what do you want now, that the Nazis died of shame or something? and not from a missile strike, an ice pick strike.

[Pavel57]

And in which countries this symbolism is prohibited, otherwise the liberals come up with a lot of things in this regard.

[Ivanov IV]

"And who are the judges?"
What did you expect?
Maybe it's enough to smear the snot on the cheeks. Maybe it's finally time to Beat?

[tihonmarine]

Consequently, the resolutions of the Institute of National Memory of Ukraine regained legal force.

There is no national memory in Ukraine, except for Bandera and the 14th Division Grenadiere der Waffen-SS "Galizien". The rest of the 1000 year history is thrown into the trash -“A people who do not know their past have no future” /Mikhail Lomonosov/

[Bodipancher]

If Bandera, Petlyura and the SS Galicia division are removed from the history of Ukraine, only the Russian Empire and the Soviet period will remain.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Bodypuncher

If Bandera, Petlyura and the SS Galicia division are removed from the history of Ukraine, only the Russian Empire and the Soviet period will remain.

It is so, only these times on the Ruin were marred, there is de-communization and de-Russification. Well, they don’t want to admit that they came out of 1000 years old Rus', but they came out of Europe, although Europe does not recognize this, a slave cannot be a native of Europe.

[Bodipancher]

Such decisions only confirm the correctness of the decision to start the NWO. Nazism flourishes there at all levels.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Bodypuncher

Nazism flourishes there at all levels.

He especially flourished under the Jewish president, no matter how insulting it is to write, but it is so.

[APASUS]

It would be logical to revoke Ukraine's recognition of the results of Nuremberg. Otherwise, fascist organizations are in their honor, but they are banned in the world.
It is interesting to hear now the main democracy, how they will justify fascism in Ukraine ................

[Incvizitor]

They will close their eyes and will ignore like Israel.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: APASUS

It is interesting to listen now to the main democracy, how they will justify fascism in Ukraine ....

Well, Zeev Zelensky, Mykhailo Podolyak and Lyusya Arestovich will tell about this.

[Amateur]

The Jew Zelensky at the head of the anti-Semitic Bandera is such a SUR that J. Orwell, if he were alive, would have strangled himself with envy.

In life you can't imagine
(popular wisdom)

[katarsafebox.com]

In fact, the Jews are rabid Nazis since the time of the Exodus, or even earlier

[wandlitz]

A raven will not peck out an eye... Such an opinion is formed about the court.

[Ulan.1812]

Nothing surprising. They confidently went for it.
The final touch has been put, Ukraine has officially recognized itself as a fascist state.
As long as they are allowed to do so by their Western masters, this will be so.
Also nothing surprising, the Nazis support the Nazis.
This means only one thing - you can’t stop in the DPR and LPR and Kherson, Zaporozhye regions.
The task of denazification of ALL Ukraine must be completed. Otherwise, it will repeat itself over and over again.

[Laki_Rusyn]

That's exactly the same thing i explained to some people from Western countries, but they called me a "liar" and "Putin's boyfriend" It's funny how some of these westerners i talked to claim to be "neutral" and that they don't " trust American government neither" but they still yell and scream at Putin and calling Russian Anti-Terrorist Military Operation "unjustified" and "illegal" "indefensible" "aggression" I even argued with an guy from Ukraine over current situation. He told me "they Ukrainians considered Russians their cloesest ally all way until 2014" and then i may ask him to remind what has changed EXACT in that year, but no he is either ignorant or liar. He doesn't understand that exact that year 2014 was the reason why Putin had to react like he did. It's a year when Nazis started literally burning people in Crimea and Russia and Putin couldn't tolerate it. But they call me a "liar" for spreading the truth. It's a sad truth that to some people is totally invain to explain them the truth, because they can't be proven to anything.

One thing is for sure. After all terrorist attacks Kiev regime performed in both inside and outside of Ukrainian territory, this fascist fake country really have no right to exist. After all It's time for Russia to reclaim it's rightful historical lands and protect the people who were being genocided unfairly for 8 years. Slava Russia!

[Incvizitor]

This fascist terrorist pseudo-state has no right to exist like ISIS.

[Frank Muller]

At first glance, the emblem is really harmless. What is Nazi in it? Another thing is when the political essence of those who operated under this coat of arms during WWII and what war crimes they committed while collaborating with the Nazis of the Third Reich, hiding behind a blue shield with a lion standing on its hind legs, is known. It is not surprising that the Ukrainian court, in every possible way defending the "fighters against Stalinist and Soviet tyranny", preferred the acquittal against the lawsuit: to recognize the fascist emblem of "Galicia" means to recognize its criminal nature! In the context of the newly rewritten Ukrainian history and modern Ukrainian politics, this is by no means unacceptable. Therefore, the arguments of the defense were accepted as irresistibly - justifying. The symbol of the division is the symbol of Lviv, but does the coat of arms of Lviv have a fascist content? A lion standing on its hind legs is on the coat of arms of the Czech Republic, Bulgaria. Do not accuse these countries of adherence to Nazi ideology? And the soldiers of "Galicia" did not wear the SS "thunder and lightning" in the right buttonhole, did not give the Nazi salute, which, by the way, was forbidden to them. Did you obey the fascist command? But they fought against their Soviet oppressors, and this is justified. Committed war crimes? And we have no proof of this! There could not be another court decision in a country where monuments to the heroes of the Great Patriotic War are decisively demolished, mercilessly erasing from history the names of Soviet heroes who gave their lives for the liberation of Ukraine from fascist invaders.

[Uprun]

I won’t be surprised if by the New Year the green bean will release “My struggle” in the author’s translation.

[Chronos]

Quote from uprun

I won’t be surprised if by the New Year the green bean will release “My struggle” in the author’s translation.

Already. "My struggle" is a collection of Zelensky's speeches, published two or three months ago. It remains to be translated into German and sold there, so that the burghers get sick.

[Chronos]

The funny thing is that the Khkhkhlyatsky historiography mixed the commander of "Galicia" (a German SS man) with slops, because in a report to Berlin he wrote that such "cowardly and bastard soldiers" (this is a quote) than this time they gave him under command, he haven't met yet. In other reports, the Germans complained that there were problems with the withdrawal of equipment from the boiler, because the roads were clogged with wagons full of loot.
And on the subject - nothing surprising. Today, the "warrior of light" with a patch was generally lit up. The patch has two zippers and an inscription in German - "Einsatzkommando".

[evgen1221]

Pearls from Ukraine in the soul are especially touching and variations, such as we protect the country from aggression, and how our grandfather reached Berlin, so we will reach Moscow))))

[iouris]

Is it a sensation? This is the promotion of Nazism to Europe. Referring to the decision of this "independent court", everything will be quickly explained to the Germans.
The war against Nazism is fought under the red banner with the hammer and sickle. Only.

[katarsafebox.com]

"There is no Nazism in Ukraine! Sieg heil!"

[Yarik]

I have no words!!! And with these geeks, our Russian alligarchs continue their undercover deeds!!! But they are practically all Jews, how will they now sit at the same negotiating table with outright fascists ???

[Miragor B]

Quote: Gardamir

Well, Vlasov symbols are also not prohibited.

what do you mean by "Vlasov symbolism"?