The Ukrainian regime made unsuccessful attempts to attack the Belbek airfield in Crimea

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The Ukrainian regime made unsuccessful attempts to attack the Belbek airfield in Crimea

The air defense forces of the Russian Armed Forces repelled an attempt by Ukrainian troops to attack the Belbek airfield in Crimea.

As it became known, the Kyiv regime attempted another provocation by making several unsuccessful attempts to attack the Belbek airfield located in Sevastopol. However, the effective work of the air defense forces did not allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to achieve their goals. All Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were shot down while approaching the airfield.



Meanwhile, the growing activity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in terms of attacks on Russian airfields, including those located in the depths of Russian territory, makes us think both about the effectiveness of air defense systems and about intelligence that could report such attack plans from the Ukrainian regime.

If in Crimea the air defense forces worked at a height, then it is not very clear how the Ukrainian drones managed to fly through large Russian territories to airfields in the Ryazan and Saratov regions. There is no doubt that the work of the air defense forces needs to be strengthened, and not only in the regions of the Russian Federation bordering the combat zone, but also in other subjects of the Russian Federation.

This is a security issue not only for military installations, but also for government bodies and civilians of the Russian Federation. It requires an early resolution, as well as appropriate, maximally harsh response measures against the Ukrainian regime, and not only consisting in the destruction of energy infrastructure facilities or military factories.
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  1. -12
    6 December 2022 11: 36
    The main purpose of these attacks is information throwing in order to sow notes of distrust among Russians towards the country's leadership and the Russian Defense Ministry. But they will not succeed, the destruction of infrastructure will continue as planned, the personnel, weapons and equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be destroyed both in the concentration areas and on the lines of contact.
    1. +30
      6 December 2022 11: 39
      An attack on a strategic aviation airfield, information stuffing? What are you talking about? One forum member yesterday accused me of ukrovbros about Engels, saying that there was a gas explosion in the apartment ..... Nobody argues about the destruction of infrastructure.
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      2. +7
        6 December 2022 11: 49
        It requires an early resolution, ... the most severe retaliatory measures against the Ukrainian regime, ... in the destruction of energy infrastructure or military plants.

        So far, this is only at the level of blah blah, but what is being done is clearly not enough. It's time to use not only expensive missiles, but also DRGs (partisans) behind enemy lines, up to the borders with the EU, and tear up the entire infrastructure with defense plants.
        1. +2
          6 December 2022 18: 37
          For starters, you can simply stop warning the Americans about the departure of our strategists, as we did earlier.
      3. +23
        6 December 2022 11: 50
        It is not entirely clear with this, with the attack on the a / b in Engels. The range for the Tu-141 is limiting. This is if he flies at the optimal height, and even exceptionally straight and at cruising speed. If our RTV did not see this ... I have no words. It can not be. The height of 6000 m is optimal not only for its flight, but also for detection. Unclear.
        But from our authorities in a row you will not expect sane explanations. Everyone has already forgotten about the Moscow cruiser, Saratov, too, and these explosions will be forgotten about.
        1. +2
          6 December 2022 18: 39
          There was a current article about the cruiser Moscow, these are not anti-ship missiles, for example, Kerch burned out in peacetime, I saw it on the cut.
      4. -6
        6 December 2022 12: 08
        In the lists of the enemy's priority goals - to sow in the Russian audience distrust in the command of the Special Military Operation. For this, military actions are organized, which have a purely informational effect more than a military one.
        From the point of view of direct losses, a missed strike on an airfield is a trifle. However, to sow a wave of distrust in the command, to sow disbelief in the Victory - this is already a strategically important task. There is something to think about. Including the fact that military censorship was not invented for fun.
        1. +3
          6 December 2022 12: 23
          As the army language is called a strike on the base of strategists, it’s softly aerial, but in fact it’s about and at the end.
          In simple terms, prosiplanes or whatever.
          Moreover, trust or not trust, I just believe one general and a lieutenant like a prophet.
        2. +5
          6 December 2022 13: 22
          Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19
          In the lists of priority targets of the enemy - to sow in the Russian audience distrust in the command of the Special Military Operation

          So this mistrust has not only been sown, but has already sprouted. And where, let me know, can there be trust in the command of our army, if for many years we have been told that the country's nuclear facilities are under the most perfect protection, under strict surveillance and impenetrable air defense. But in reality it turned out that all this is just a fairy tale, that some small country (not NATO, mind you) is calmly destroying our nuclear forces. It turns out that our nuclear "triad" can very easily be turned into a "twoad". Can you imagine what could happen to our entire strategic aviation - the carrier of nuclear weapons, if NATO with all its might were in the place of Ukraine?
          The weakness of our army is simply amazing ... How hard it is to realize this and see the collapse of illusions.
        3. +1
          6 December 2022 15: 49
          and to disable a bomber that has not taken off, is this just an informational effect?
        4. 0
          7 December 2022 21: 39
          At four in the morning they shot down over the sea. I slept without even hearing the shots .. Well done guys, they are doing a decent job. In Sevastopol and the Crimea, after the punctures, they put things in order. Now they are serving with dignity. And with Engels and Ryazan ... So ours could not even think about such blows. We, far away, the war is where there, virtually, on the Internet .. And then bam and gave in the ear .. They don’t give anything for one beaten two not beaten. The main thing now is to understand that any city in Russia, any base of the Russian army must be ready for terrorist acts ... Watch and serve, and not play dominoes and shesh besh.
      5. +1
        6 December 2022 12: 12
        Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19
        In the lists of the enemy's priority goals - to sow in the Russian audience distrust in the command of the Special Military Operation. For this, military actions are organized, which have a purely informational effect more than a military one.
        From the point of view of direct losses, a missed strike on an airfield is a trifle. However, to sow a wave of distrust in the command, to sow disbelief in the Victory - this is already a strategically important task. There is something to think about. Including the fact that military censorship was not invented for fun.

        it's about "throwing a fan" for some "comrades" here
    2. Hog
      +17
      6 December 2022 12: 06
      Discrimination of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is best dealt with by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation itself, with its childish attempts to hide something or leave something out / embellish. All these comrades who are trying to deceive in this way, both ordinary citizens and the supreme one, are long overdue for retirement (at best).
    3. +8
      6 December 2022 12: 15
      Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19
      informational throws in order to sow notes of mistrust

      "Sow notes"? I heard that they sow reasonable, good eternal. But for notes... Knowing what notes are, I refuse to imagine such a crop rotation!
      Let the "leaders of the country and the Defense Ministry" take care of destroying the information attacks. By the way, it was reported that the head of the General Staff of the Russian Federation allegedly even defended his dissertation on the topic "how to win in a hybrid war."
    4. +8
      6 December 2022 12: 32
      As our warriors once again disgraced. Failed to protect strategic airfields from an ancient drone in the amount of 1 (one) piece. to the object. Can you imagine what will happen if the Americans launch tomahawks, and not just one, but a hundred at once in the event of a real war? And if they deliver them to the Ukrainians, and this is not a fantastic option. Thus, they can freely destroy all military installations to a depth of 2,5 thousand km. How is that in general? A complete mess in air defense. Or is it only Moscow that is guarded in our country? In general, the Americans drew their conclusions from this incident and established themselves in the idea of ​​a lightning-fast disarming strike. Shame on the sunflower and his faithful fireman.
      Putin has recently been engaged only in his PR. He hangs noodles at some kind of youth congresses, rides a Mercedes on the Crimean bridge and does other nonsense, instead of actually dealing with the war and the security of Russia.
      1. -4
        6 December 2022 13: 00
        Quote: GOR_XVII
        And if they supply them to the Ukrainians, and this is not a fantastic option. Thus, they can freely destroy all military installations to a depth of 2,5 thousand km

        You are here something strongly dispersed in your angry accusations. I would like to remind you that the non-proliferation treaties do not allow the transfer of missiles with a range of more than 300 km to other countries. And no one has violated these agreements so far, because it's like opening a "Pandora's box".
      2. +2
        6 December 2022 13: 28
        Quote: GOR_XVII
        A complete mess in air defense. Or is it only Moscow that is guarded in our country?

        Until recently, it was believed that Russian air defense is the best in the world. Now this myth has collapsed like the house of Nif-Nif. And Nuf Nuf's house is our coolest electronic warfare
        1. +1
          6 December 2022 18: 46
          You can swear, namesake, but I live in the front-line region, and I don’t see any problems in violating peaceful life. For example, when they attacked the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet a couple of times. I then drove past him and nothing is visible. And it was blows from within. Do you understand this? Well, think about how they hit Engels, and here the question is rather not for the Moscow Region, but for the FSB. What do they sit on and sleep on?
    5. +1
      6 December 2022 13: 56
      The main purpose of these attacks is information throwing in order to sow notes of distrust among Russians towards the country's leadership and the Russian Defense Ministry.

      Again, everything so that the Russians would shake the boat a little, but slander the great helmsman?
  2. -4
    6 December 2022 11: 36
    Well, after all, we can? What are the problems in Engels, Kursk? Shoulder straps are too tight?
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    2. +5
      6 December 2022 11: 41
      They can, because at first they had the same situation as yesterday in Engels and Diaghilev.
      It's not about shoulder straps, until you see it, you won't understand. No one will send combat experience in boxes. You have to come by yourself.
      1. 0
        7 December 2022 21: 45
        Quote: fighter angel
        It's not about shoulder straps, until you see it, you won't understand. No one will send combat experience in boxes. You have to come by yourself.

        For the beaten seven unbeaten give
    3. -17
      6 December 2022 11: 41
      Alarmists and advisers do not go to this thread. The decision maker may have an opinion, while the rest have only a judgment about the event.
      1. -7
        6 December 2022 12: 35
        a lot of them just gathered here - "military experts" who know a lot about geopolitical situations and want to draw arrows on the map ... laughing
    4. -2
      6 December 2022 12: 26
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Well, after all, we can? What are the problems in Engels, Kursk? Shoulder straps are too tight?

      probably like with Proust, while this garbage was flying, they wondered what to do with it and how, in this case, so as not to light up our air defense for a bunch of observing NATO aircraft
      1. +2
        6 December 2022 13: 30
        Quote: poquello
        probably like with Proust, while this garbage was flying, they wondered what to do with it and how, in this case, so as not to light up our air defense for a bunch of observing NATO aircraft

        I think that it was still better with Proust - at least they saw him there ...
        1. 0
          6 December 2022 15: 14
          Quote: Pantsuy
          Quote: poquello
          probably like with Proust, while this garbage was flying, they wondered what to do with it and how, in this case, so as not to light up our air defense for a bunch of observing NATO aircraft

          I think that it was still better with Proust - at least they saw him there ...

          you should not pass off the chewed up facts as mental activity, when Proust sat down on the square, the information that he was led from all the cracks did not fall, and similar questions arose
          1. kaa
            +1
            7 December 2022 05: 02
            Lol, the French modernist did not fly to Moscow.
            1. +1
              7 December 2022 11: 17
              Quote from kaa
              Lol, the French modernist did not fly to Moscow.

              "I don't know who Chilya is and who Junta is, but if these two women don't let Louis go from the carnival, I won't go to work tomorrow", Rust, Crunch, Proust, who will sort out these guardians
  3. +13
    6 December 2022 11: 37
    If the air defense forces worked at high altitude in Crimea, it is not very clear how Ukrainian drones managed to fly through large Russian territories to airfields in the Ryazan and Saratov regions.

    Sloppiness on the ground! It's time to wake up - we've been fighting for the 10th month!
    1. -5
      6 December 2022 11: 43
      Quote: Sergio_7
      If the air defense forces worked at high altitude in Crimea, it is not very clear how Ukrainian drones managed to fly through large Russian territories to airfields in the Ryazan and Saratov regions.

      Sloppiness on the ground! It's time to wake up - we've been fighting for the 10th month!

      But sleep is so sweet. So someone needs a good kick from the boss to wake them up.
      1. +2
        6 December 2022 13: 39
        But sleep is so sweet. So someone needs a good kick from the boss to wake them up.
        Or maybe first you need a good kick to the top leader himself, but there’s no one to do it. How many times do I remember Zhirinovsky. I think now he would not be silent. Sometimes we begin to respect some great politicians only after their death and after the passage of time. And now one Kremlin swamp.
    2. +14
      6 December 2022 11: 45
      Quote: Sergio_7
      10th month we are at war!

      Until the Kremlin tower is knocked down, there will be a game of silence .... And the dill got excited - delight and screams!
      1. +1
        6 December 2022 14: 29
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: Sergio_7
        10th month we are at war!

        Until the Kremlin tower is knocked down, there will be a game of silence .... And the dill got excited - delight and screams!

        Strange, but I was instructed for the same minuses. On the invasion of inadequate?
  4. +5
    6 December 2022 11: 37
    The operation was developed, definitely not by panheads, but by their owners, the "Anglo-Saxons".
    Of course, Sevastopol, as a strategic object in the database zone, is saturated with air defense systems, and it is not possible to saturate the entire border with a single-level air defense system.
    1. +6
      6 December 2022 12: 11
      So it is true, but doesn’t the airfield on which strategic aviation is based deserve to be covered by air defense? That's it.
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  6. +12
    6 December 2022 11: 40
    "If the air defense forces in Crimea worked at height, then it is not very clear how Ukrainian drones managed to fly through large Russian territories to airfields in the Ryazan and Saratov regions."

    Yes, what is not clear here. We have not a war, but a "special operation". In areas not adjacent to ukroreyhu, they believe that all this does not apply to them, they live a full peaceful life: discos, restaurants, fireworks. At military facilities, security is through the railroad, and that's the result.
    1. 0
      6 December 2022 18: 50
      The United States also had its last war with Korea at a certain time. In the meantime, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are attacking in Artyomovsk. The dog barks, and the wind wears.
      You yourself do not observe that you are hooked on a swing called zrada-peremoga?
  7. -2
    6 December 2022 11: 40
    The air defense of Crimea has a lot of combat experience. They are kept in suspense every day, they don’t let them relax. Yes, and the presence of air defense forces, where the Flights flew yesterday raises the question, there are enough of them. NATO probably sees our holes. Yes, and the flight to Croatia "Reisa "played with new colors - tests? So they passed successfully with NATO then, flew where they needed to.
  8. -6
    6 December 2022 11: 43
    What are drones?
    Here are British medium-range missiles launched by NATO specialists at targets chosen by NATO specialists using NATO reconnaissance satellites masquerading as civilians.
    Maybe it's time to call a spade a spade?
    And our air defense worked out not bad at all, as some smart people try to imagine
  9. +2
    6 December 2022 11: 44
    Well, it means that it is necessary to strengthen the strikes on Ukraine and on those targets that have been voiced for a long time, but which for some reason have not yet been touched.
    1. +2
      6 December 2022 11: 53
      Well, yesterday there were strikes on objects on the outskirts, what was their result? this "shooting" resembles a TV show, there is a picture - but there is no result ... and the "shooting" has been going on for 2 months
    2. +2
      6 December 2022 13: 34
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      Well, it means that it is necessary to strengthen the strikes on Ukraine and on those targets that have been voiced for a long time, but which for some reason have not yet been touched.

      After the attack on our nuclear weapons base, the government quarter in Kyiv should be nothing more than a smoking pit. But our commander-in-chief will again wipe himself off from a savory spit and will smile sweetly at the screen
      1. 0
        6 December 2022 18: 53
        Have you seen this government quarter? I really was not inside, but the buildings are inspiring. Reminds you of the Brest Fortress? This is a construction of the 19th century, which could not be unwound in the 20th century. I was there too and saw it with my own eyes. Think what you say.
  10. +4
    6 December 2022 11: 45
    unsuccessful attempts to attack Belbek airfield

    So this object is guarded better than Engels.
    1. +2
      6 December 2022 12: 10
      Quote from Egeni
      unsuccessful attempts to attack Belbek airfield

      So this object is guarded better than Engels.

      Apparently they did not expect that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the ability to strike at such a range.
      Again miscalculated.
      1. +6
        6 December 2022 13: 37
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        Apparently they did not expect that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the ability to strike at such a range

        In general, this air base should be designed for the possibility of striking from the most modern NATO means.
        1. 0
          6 December 2022 14: 06
          Quote: Pantsuy
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          Apparently they did not expect that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the ability to strike at such a range

          In general, this air base should be designed for the possibility of striking from the most modern NATO means.

          So am I about it. Must.
  11. +4
    6 December 2022 11: 47
    The Ukrainian regime made unsuccessful attempts to attack the Belbek airfield in Crimea
    Two tasks ... reflect, for now, and then push back beyond reach, ideally, to the borders ...
    1. -2
      6 December 2022 12: 04
      ideally, to the borders with Poland, Romania and Hungary, and then "we'll see"
      1. +2
        6 December 2022 12: 36
        We don’t need someone else’s, but don’t touch OURS !!!
        And foreigners, let them sleep peacefully, if they can, of course ...
        1. -3
          6 December 2022 12: 39
          So our everything is just up to the borders of Poland, Romania and Hungary, I think everything will come to this, all this land is saturated with Russian blood, all this land is ours ..
          1. +3
            6 December 2022 12: 55
            Over the hill they bay and are afraid that Russia will begin to collect the lands of the Russian Empire, the USSR.
            So let them be afraid ... we have our own affairs, our own tasks, and we will not ask anyone for permission and other things ...
            1. -1
              6 December 2022 13: 00
              The fact is that Russia has already begun to take its lands, but so far the Soviet Union on the rights of succession. I believe that our leadership will succeed. The Ukrainian People's Republic will remain with the capital in Lvov and will be part of the union state of Russia and Belarus, and the rest will have to be returned to Russia.
              1. +3
                6 December 2022 13: 20
                Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19
                The fact is that Russia has already begun to take its lands,

                Everything is very vague, indistinct, until ... we will see how it goes further.
                1. 0
                  6 December 2022 13: 37
                  There is a proverb like this - "Moscow was not built right away", I think no one is driving here yet, as long as they just harnessed it and that's good. And all this information about "agreements" and "behind-the-scenes agreements" is poured into space by our "non-brothers" and they succeed, well, their teachers are the ancestors of Hollywood. Victory will be ours, everything will work out for us, but it’s hard somewhere, but somewhere with some shortcomings and mistakes, but we draw conclusions and move forward.
  12. +2
    6 December 2022 11: 49
    Quote: JonnyT
    did not work well

    Do not "take away", learn the materiel, Johnny.
    I haven’t seen half a thousand kilometers, but you are “not bad”, the adverb, by the way, is literate.
    1. 0
      6 December 2022 18: 56
      I have a friend who is a teacher of the Russian language, and so she sometimes asks her husband how this or that word is spelled. When she reads a bunch of mistakes from students, she herself begins to doubt. Do we have an exam in Russian here? Do you understand the message, what to do?
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  14. +6
    6 December 2022 11: 55
    The fourth attempt (three flew) in two days. When a Latvian recently called on the Americans to give permission to Ukraine to strike at Russian airfields, it means that he already knew something. Is the airport in Kyiv still functioning properly? A lot has already been said today about the security and protection of important facilities.
  15. +3
    6 December 2022 12: 03
    If the air defense forces worked at high altitude in Crimea, it is not very clear how Ukrainian drones managed to fly through large Russian territories to airfields in the Ryazan and Saratov regions.
    Who doesn't understand very well? Why shouldn't they fly? Without information, you can guess for as long as you like. If, for example, the glider and the Strizh engine (made in Ukraine) allow you to fly, then why not fly? What's the surprise here? Who are we fighting? With Ukraine? If initially they planned to fight only with Ukraine, then it would be time to sober up after so many blows with a rake. By the way, where is Rogozin with his tweets about having no analogues in the world? The patriot is silent. And how many snot was?
    It requires an early resolution, as well as appropriate, maximally harsh response measures against the Ukrainian regime, and not only consisting in the destruction of energy infrastructure facilities or military plants.
    And what kind of retaliatory measures are "the most severe"? Is the whole world in turmoil? The barn burned down - burn the hut too? These are already signs of panic. And this is not good.
  16. +3
    6 December 2022 12: 14
    Campaign shooting is on Sheremetyevo and this is not sarcasm.
  17. +1
    6 December 2022 12: 18
    Kiev decision centers must be wiped out as well as Lviv
  18. -4
    6 December 2022 12: 19
    Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19
    In the lists of the enemy's priority goals - to sow in the Russian audience distrust in the command of the Special Military Operation. For this, military actions are organized, which have a purely informational effect more than a military one.
    From the point of view of direct losses, a missed strike on an airfield is a trifle. However, to sow a wave of distrust in the command, to sow disbelief in the Victory - this is already a strategically important task. There is something to think about. Including the fact that military censorship was not invented for fun.
    I perfectly understand who can put minuses on such comments, these are precisely those comrades who like to discuss the political situation in the country, disperse a wave of panic and distrust, catch a hype on criticizing the General Staff, the leadership of the NWO or the leadership of my country. Hypozhory, tsipsota and alarmists, you can continue to howl about "everything is lost", but in the end, all the same, victory will be for Russia.
    1. -3
      6 December 2022 13: 05
      Oleg, do not waste the strength of these "experts", it is not realistic not to convince, not to argue. Everything is always bad with them, without even understanding the essence of what is happening, and how they like to hang labels. With chagrin I observe what a swamp the review turns into and the strength of the articles and the level of comments. The story is just interesting to read.
      1. -5
        6 December 2022 13: 12
        it’s really a “swamp”, at first, when I registered here, I looked at the domain, it’s not some kind of left one, everything seems to be normal, well, the admins should somehow regulate all these issues, especially the “all-weapons”, well, after all, there’s not a hole in the brain, but they are all in the same place with "a cloth snout, but in a kalashny row" and all with some kind of general phrases designed for a "herd effect". And I will waste my time, let them give me minuses, I don’t give a damn, there are many who simply misunderstand all the subtleties and twists and turns of the current situation.
        1. 0
          6 December 2022 13: 22
          Well, good luck! I can only support +, although I treat this system of titles as a child's game.
          1. 0
            6 December 2022 13: 39
            Similarly, the "colonel" of the reserve himself, commanded the regiment, resigned from the post of deputy brigade commander. Thank you. hi
            1. 0
              6 December 2022 19: 12
              Even for this completely normal post you got a minus, do you understand who is doing this?
    2. 0
      6 December 2022 19: 10
      That's right, I myself watch how you are actively minus, and I'm not sure that the direct participants in the discussion are just tsipso. We are in the media, well, like how to show that your opinion does not deserve attention. Think about it, what if they start listening to him?
      Hysteria is being whipped up, and there are well-wishers. who openly support it. Yes, there was a failure, but I have. as I said earlier, more questions are not for the Moscow Region but for the FSB, but something else, I, like you, know little.
      The fact that the missile carriers suffered is extremely unpleasant and painful. But I personally see in this that Ukraine is fizzling out. Damage to a pair of missile carriers is a blow, but it will not force the withdrawal of troops from Artyomovsk, for example, which could affect the course of the war.
      See for yourself, privateering, and then submarines, was a weapon that was successfully used by the weakest naval states. The French with privateering ignited in the Napoleonic wars, the Germans. in two world wars and the result?
      What they used in Engels is a clear sign that they are losing, they would win, they would prove it at the front, and here the desire to pump up the population, these clowns are still doing holy harm that it is possible to rock our state.
  19. +2
    6 December 2022 12: 28
    Today, at about 6 am, the fuel storage of the airfield in Kursk was attacked. According to the regional governor, no one was hurt. The attack was carried out by unmanned aircraft!
  20. +1
    6 December 2022 13: 36
    Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19
    In the lists of the enemy's priority goals - to sow in the Russian audience distrust in the command of the Special Military Operation. For this, military actions are organized, which have a purely informational effect more than a military one.
    From the point of view of direct losses, a missed strike on an airfield is a trifle. However, to sow a wave of distrust in the command, to sow disbelief in the Victory - this is already a strategically important task. There is something to think about. Including the fact that military censorship was not invented for fun.

    Failures in the organization of air defense and missile defense of important military, as well as infrastructure facilities, are evident, the topic of today's meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation confirms this, which, however, does not exclude those enemy goals that you write about in your comment. sad
  21. 0
    6 December 2022 14: 41
    maybe it's time to destroy the center of Kiev kreshatik banking, etc., etc., and watered the power and the banking system ??? and then let's play it!
  22. -2
    6 December 2022 14: 50
    ... what if NATO with all its might were in place of Ukraine?
    The weakness of our army is simply amazing ... How hard it is to realize this and see the collapse of illusions. [/ Quote]


    Wow, but they gave me strong potreots of minuses when I wrote that the Russian Federation is not at war with NATO.
  23. 0
    6 December 2022 15: 56
    Quote: Pantsuy
    should be calculated

    That's the thing, it should. Now we are stocking up on popcorn and waiting for a reshuffle in the Air Force.
    Today, the colonel (Khodarenok) was sad at Skabeeva's that the production line of these Tu-95s was in an abandoned state, then why not restore production? This car is praised at all levels, but there is no production.
    1. 0
      6 December 2022 19: 17
      This is a problem, and you ask why the Europeans, for example, created the Eurofighter, didn’t they themselves? Yes, sir. they didn’t pull it, although they separately produced aircraft in the 20th century, everything in a row. And the F-35, there are generally a lot of countries involved. We do not have such resources as the United States, which is why we relied on submarine missile carriers and Yars.
      Yes, and the Tu-95, by the way, is not a very new aircraft, I understand that you could listen to someone there, Khodaryonok is definitely not, but you should always look in: how are they?
      1. kaa
        0
        7 December 2022 05: 23
        They have B-52 and B-1b production lines in a similar condition, the reasons are the same, expensive and technology changes. Efficient aircraft in constant repair and modernization. In a good way, it is necessary to design a modern replacement in the niche of the main strategic bomber. But we know that it happened in 91, and they had Spirit gobbled up all the money in the world.
  24. 0
    6 December 2022 16: 03
    Quote from christian revuelta
    must be wiped

    Decisions are made in the Pentagon, and not in the Kiev center, especially not in Lviv.
    Pentagon Too?
  25. 0
    6 December 2022 16: 12
    Quote: Ulan.1812
    So am I about it. Must.

    Not only you about this, 500 to one object, 700 km to another, half an hour of flight ... And they didn’t notice.
  26. 0
    6 December 2022 16: 13
    Quote: Arkadich
    I can only support +

    Me too.)
  27. 0
    6 December 2022 16: 17
    Quote: Ulan.1812
    On the invasion of inadequate?

    No, the "inadequate" drink vodka all day.)
  28. +1
    6 December 2022 19: 08
    Swift / Reis as a target has the characteristics of an aircraft, not a drone. Most likely they saw, but they were afraid of "their own, with the failure of the transponder" by mistake to fill up. Well, if you haven’t seen them, you need to send them to Kherson or Melitopol for training.
  29. 0
    6 December 2022 22: 22
    Quote: Alexander Salenko
    Tu-95 by the way is not a very new aircraft

    Alex, good evening. I know that the car is 1952, but the performance characteristics are not bad and will last another 7-8 years.
    Again, all his own, another thing is that the engineering staff has grown old.)
  30. 0
    6 December 2022 22: 25
    Quote: Comrad
    send to Kherson or Melitopol for training.

    It's high time.) Maybe the transponders are normal, but the fuckers stole the passwords?
  31. 0
    7 December 2022 21: 38
    When Rust landed in Moscow in 1986, about 20 generals alone flew off, plus Defense Minister Sokolov.

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