Ukrainian schismatics offer to re-baptize in the OCU all those previously baptized in the UOC

The Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU) has decided to conduct a “repeated” baptism in order to “cancel” the earlier baptismal rites in Ukrainian Orthodox churches under the patronage of the Moscow Patriarchate.

Dear parishioners!
In connection with the latest events, all baptismal rites conducted by the priests of the UOC are abolished. You can sign up for re-baptism at the OCU with the priest

- the announcement of the OCU says.

It should be noted that recently the Kyiv regime has been exerting more and more serious pressure on the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which, by the way, according to the charter of the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC), is still on the rights of broad autonomy within the ROC. And just a few days ago, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky announced measures aimed at banning the activities of the UOC in the country. Representatives of various religious organizations, allegedly close to the religious organizations of Russia, fell under these restrictions. All this, according to the Ukrainian president, is aimed at gaining the spiritual "independence" of Ukraine. That is, Orthodoxy, faith, according to Zelensky, should not be single, common, but everyone has their own - “independent”.

According to the parishioners, by their encroachments on the Orthodox faith in the form of "repeated baptismal rites", the schismatics [of the OCU] are looking for new ways of material enrichment.

Recall that the initiator of the creation of the OCU, as well as the transfer of a number of parish churches of the UOC under its control, was the then President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko. The establishment of the OCU became possible due to the unification of the clergy of the self-proclaimed UOC of the Kyiv Patriarchate and the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church in Ukraine. The non-canonical tomos was received from Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople, who obviously had no right to such a transfer without the consent of other Orthodox hierarchs.

In itself, re-baptism in Orthodoxy is something out of the ordinary. It violates the very principles of the Christian faith and religion.

Comments

[Uprun]

The deep meaning of the word - cross yourself!

[marchcat]

looking for new ways of material enrichment.

Yes, it's simple - real Satanism, and not just enrichment.

[lis-ik]

Quote: marchcat

looking for new ways of material enrichment.

Yes, it's simple - real Satanism, and not just enrichment.

Baptism, like the oath, is not performed twice and is not given.

[iouris]

Quote from uprun

the meaning of the word is cross!

The true meaning of the word - get baptized!

[businessv]

Quote from uprun

The deep meaning of the word - cross yourself!

I would say, a newly acquired and unexpected meaning with clownish, purely Zionist irony and a mockery of Orthodoxy!

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Yes, all this is normal, if God allows this, then so be it.

[APASUS]

When politicians interfere in the affairs of religion, it turns out a religious war. Zeliboba is not just the executioner of the people of Ukraine, he is also a schismatic. Although if he is a Jew, he doesn’t care what happens to Christians

[Galleon]

Quote: APASUS

When politicians interfere in the affairs of religion, it turns out a religious war. Although if he is a Jew, he doesn’t care what happens to Christians

Not all Jews care about what happens to Christians. Only in the opposite direction: the worse ... But in this case, the demand for re-baptism is already a splash of hatred and chauvinism, as if to some kind of subhuman.

[businessv]

Quote: APASUS

Although if he is a Jew

I would even say - a Zionist! I don't believe you doubt it!

[Trapp1st]

The UOC discredits the Christian faith in principle, by its actions.

[iouris]

Quote: Trapp1st

The UOC discredits the Christian faith in principle

"Christian faith" and even "in principle" to discredit anyone is not possible. So don't worry about it. Saving the soul is a personal matter for everyone. Although in Rus' they believed that it was possible to "be saved" only as part of a community, only together. Hence follows the role of the sovereign - the "servant of God" - leading his people to salvation.
But one must also believe that the Last Judgment is ahead (this is not the judgment, the centenary of which was celebrated a few days ago).

[Daishi]

It feels like all the rest of the planet are now in Ukraine

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

Ukrainian schismatics offer to re-baptize in the OCU all those previously baptized in the UOC

***
- And that the Dnieper has not yet frozen? ...
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[Uncle lee]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

And that the Dnieper has not yet frozen? .

And invite Gerasim!

[kor1vet1974]

Like a drum, all these schisms, by and large, are a church that is acquisitive in essence .. whatever it is .. Honest taking, money from the population and no deception ..

[Kaufman]

You are not in church! You will not be deceived.
O. Bender

[kor1vet1974]

You are not in church! You will not be deceived.

Yeah, from time immemorial, an instrument of state policy ..

[rocket757]

Ukrainian schismatics offer to re-baptize in the OCU all those previously baptized in the UOC

. I, from religion .... aside, but this does not interfere with KNOWING the history, what such muddles lead to ....
Those who started this .... yes, to / Z / ly they are enemies, demons. There is nothing more to say.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

..... I, from religion .... aside, but this does not interfere with KNOWING the history, what such ......

Greetings Victor word re, in this case means that they consider the first baptism to be invalid! They, therefore, have a different baptism .

demons to be baptized differently

And according to Orthodox tradition --- the second baptism is impossible

[rocket757]

Hi Dmitry
It’s clear that the matter is dark ...
The dark forces have already swept into Ukraine and they will not stop until their horns are kicked.
And only we can do it! And we call everyone to our ranks.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

.....Dark forces have already swept into Ukraine and they will not stop......

according to the Western scenario, ethnic Russians ----- Russian Orthodox Slavs are being destroyed. In this case, they want to destroy the Slavs spiritually, morally. Reformat Create the same Satanists as themselves

[rocket757]

All one to the other...
The methods are the same, but they work, alas.
Not everywhere, of course, but the weak link was found this time as well.

[Reptiloid]

Understand that, Victor! All these Ukrainian oppressions of Orthodox Russians should, in my opinion, be considered together with the latest statements of the Pope (about the cruelties of our other peoples), and with his other deeds in recent years. And the picture is very clear. Medieval hatred of the Slavs has not gone away, and as you know, it will never disappear anywhere. Especially if there is such a desire to kindle it, spread it. They hope to get more benefits from this hatred than now, when they are in charge in Ukraine. .....
AND---- have a nice day

[rocket757]

Dmitri ... dad NAFG, he is NOBODY for us and there is NO way to call him ...
There is ONE CONDUCTOR of this process!!! he, of course, is a team figure, but in total, quite significant, for very many, and in the first place, he leads all politicians, governments of countries ... those countries that we call crazy countries of the Western world, foreign ...
I propose to finish the philosophy, because we know ... or rather, we don’t know anything, just guesses, scraps and other OBS!

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

.... I propose to finish the philosophy, because we know ... or rather, we don’t know anything, just guesses, scraps and other OBS!

A little more, Victor! Dad is a spiritual leader, both in Europe and in LA! And relatively recently, the Pope gave rarities of GDP and there were also symbols of the defeat of that Ukraine

[rocket757]

Hi Dmitry
Shaw there is the Vatican, sho to take from that pope ... cynicism, lies and everything else!
Do we need it? We have enough of our own.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Reptiloid

And according to Orthodox tradition --- the second baptism is impossible

Ukraine has proven that it is possible. At this rate, we will come to the conclusion that God can be re-elected. And in Christianity. However, we are seeing this, Satanism rules.

[Reptiloid]

We don't have anything like it, in my opinion. Religions in Russia are traditional.

[orionvitt]

Traditional, but not so much. For example, the so-called "Nikon reform", the church schism in Russia in the XNUMXth century and where the Old Believers came from. Today's Orthodoxy is not quite what it was originally. Or rather, not at all.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

A repeated oath, a repeated baptism, a story that repeats itself in the form of a farce ... Isn't there too much repetition for a single country?

[Murmur 55]

That is, they offer people to betray their faith?! Or how?

[for]

Quote: Murmur 55

That is, they offer people to betray their faith?! Or how?

But they baptized Rus' into Orthodoxy, they didn’t force them to betray the faith, but the Old Believers?

[Murmur 55]

for , the topic is very subtle, you can discuss here for hours, but the transition from paganism to Orthodoxy (in some places very violent) did not happen one or two centuries ago, can the modern descendants of those people be considered apostates ?!

[Novik225]

as well as the re-wedding of the newlyweds and the re-burial of the deceased - the presence of the wedding and the presence of the funeral at the service is a must!

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Novik225

...... repeated funeral of the dead ......

Actually, this is not news. The Mormon sect, in the late 1980s, announced the baptism of all mankind in history. They believe that All Humanity is 5 or 6 thousand years old! Astronomical and geological data do not count.
That's it.

[tihonmarine]

Dear parishioners!
In connection with the latest events, all baptismal rites conducted by the priests of the UOC are abolished. You can sign up for re-baptism at the OCU with the priest

In Christianity, being rebaptized into another faith is the biggest sin.
Moreover, the OCU is not a Christian church, but a sect.

[Reserve officer]

Zelensky's next step - appointing his own Ukrainian God by presidential decree from among his close clowns in the 95th quarter? And the Verkhovna Rada will immediately approve it.
But seriously, all these games perfectly show that for this so-called president there is nothing sacred at all.

[Metallurg_2]

You take it small: on the next pinch of white Ze, he may well proclaim himself G-d.

[for]

Quote: tihonmarine

In Christianity, being rebaptized into another faith is the biggest sin.

But what about freedom of religion?
What if we are in a secular state?

[Egor53]

The Creed says: "I confess one baptism for the remission of sins."
The requirement for re-baptism means that the OCU is not a Christian church.

[Rustic]

Again, Jewish Judas are trying to destroy the Orthodox. But when will these Judas finally be wiped off the face of the earth.

[t-12]

re-baptism in Orthodoxy is something out of the ordinary

Well, generally speaking, there have been many transitions between branches of Christianity (for example, between Catholicism and Orthodoxy) in history (wives of Russian tsars, princes, boyars).

[Nexcom]

There, the transition from Catholicism to Orthodoxy for the future wife of the king was a state necessity. Although everyone was accepted into Orthodoxy without restrictions - and Jews too (they were given Orthodox names at baptism and were called baptized from Judaism). And the Tungus-Eskimos were also baptized - from there they went to the Tungus, Evenks, .... Russian Orthodox names.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: t-12

Well, generally speaking, transitions between branches of Christianity (for example, between Catholicism and Orthodoxy)

The branches of Christianity are the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, the Armenian Church and the Coptic Church, all other Evangelical Protestant, Uniate and others, these are considered sects in Christianity. The transition between branches is possible, but not in a sect.

[t-12]

Well, it's a matter of word usage. "Branches", "sects" or whatever you want to call it. Why are Protestants worse than, for example, Old Believers?

[I dare to_notice_]

Well... for those who understand...
1. This action will be devoid of grace.
2. Now let's see how many believers actually are (those who understand what they believe in) and those who simply enjoy "getting drunk on paska".
The times are... Everyone has to pick a side.
And then... answer for your choice.

[rotmistr60]

The latest thing is when they want to "reforge" believers for themselves. Transfer everyone to the Roman Catholic Church at once, so as not to return to this later. And it looks like it will eventually come to this.

[Egor53]

The OCU is the ugly church of Ukraine.

[NSV]

There’s no need for CBO here !!!! Just leave a walk-field here !!!!! Burn out all this ugliness !!! If you swung at the dogmas of Orthodoxy .... !!! There are no ... brothers, if someone said so!

[U-58]

What will Father Kirill say about this?
And then after the loss to the Istanbul patriarch, he is not seen or heard.

[Sergey39]

Under-state, under-church - the theater of the absurd continues! (((

[iouris]

This is some kind of rites, not Orthodoxy. Let them cross themselves and cross themselves with their left hand ... And sho would not be suspected of zrada.

[Bingo]

Uniates are Uniates. Only now they are in vain, just such a trump card ours are simply obliged to play - even in the USA they will not understand this at all, and it is the Yankees who will not understand it. Liberota will gobble up, but the Yankees will just go nuts

[decimalegio]

Where are the Orthodox Catholics???? These are your fellow believers. Read below, Orthodox baptism is valid in the Catholic Church. So if one day you decide to become a Catholic, don't worry, you won't need to bathe again. This is different for confirmation.

[Bingo]

Uniates are not "Orthodox Catholics". Everything is much deeper and worse.

[decimalegio]

For me, the term Uniate (or even Greek Catholic) churches means the churches of Eastern Europe that follow the Byzantine rite, the same as the Orthodox, but are in communion with the Pope. So they are Catholics. If by "unity" you mean something else, I don't understand it.

[Bingo]

The Uniates are a Polish church, created in Poland as a counterweight to the Russian one, which the Poles did not allow in Poland before serving Around the 17th century, I don't remember exactly. So with the Orthodox Church, which is called the Ortodox Church in the West - nothing to do - a strictly political, Polonized pocket Polish version. Actually, from the very beginning it was engaged in the seizure of Orthodox churches, somewhere in the 19th century it was liquidated, then it arose again - first in WWI, then under Hitler, and now for the third time. The whole point is the fight against the Orthodox, classical schismatics, and not ideological, but political

[lestad]

OCU - Poroshenko Church of Ukraine (that's more correct)

[opposite28]

Dear parishioners!
In connection with the latest events, all baptismal rites conducted by the priests of the UOC are abolished. You can sign up for re-baptism at the OCU with the priest, the OCU announcement says.

Candidates for the re-baptized have been approved by the SBU...

[decimalegio]

This seems like real idiocy to me. An Orthodox Christian who wishes to become a Catholic, given the close communion between the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Churches, should not be re-baptized. Orthodox baptism is also valid in the Catholic Church. So this request for a new baptism within the same orthodoxy seems to me just an evasion of the truth.

[gsev]

Quote: Decimalegio

This seems like real idiocy to me.

The SBU will receive lists of those who have not been baptized - they will have lists of unreliable ones. In the conditions of the omnipotence of the secret services in Ukraine, Russian propaganda should call on its supporters for covert sabotage against nationalists in Ukraine and the West.

[decimalegio]

If I'm kidding, I have a solution to the problem......... just become a Catholic and they won't need to be baptized. Removed lists or blacklists.

[know]

Such a denazification of Ukraine according to Putin's recipes. However. this word has now disappeared from circulation - apparently, how a mockery already sounds.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Interesting country. Worldly power in the form of a president decides who and with whom should be Ukrainian believers. And it forbids to believe contrary to how it is in the form of "the only correct faith" appointed by the current presidential power ...

Well, why be surprised? At the head of a quasi-country is a quasi-president: a wretched satanic heretic Jew.

[Evgenijus]

Based on the decisions being made in Ukraine, it turns out that the dead and buried Orthodox need to be dug up and baptized. Exactly, Satanism and nothing else, there is no other word. Here it is, the seal of Satan in action. Zelensky is Mr. Woland, professor of magic. And his black cats are schismatic priests. Read Bulgakov, even I. Stalin respected him.

[Su-25]

Here is another fact that the Ukrainians themselves went against God, they hate Christianity. As they say: Demons are afraid of the cross!