Russian intelligence in the NVO zone is actively using Tachyon drones

The reconnaissance units of the Ground Forces participating in the special military operation in Ukraine are actively using the Tachyon drone, which makes it possible to open even heavily camouflaged positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This was reported by a source in law enforcement agencies.

The Tachyon reconnaissance UAV is equipped not only with cameras, but also with a thermal imager, which makes it possible to identify the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and aim artillery or artillery at them. Aviation. Initially, the drone was developed for operations in the Arctic conditions and was supposed to enter service with the Northern fleet, but later this decision was changed.

The Russian military to conduct aerial reconnaissance of positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine use Drones "Tachyon". The devices are equipped with a thermal imager, a photo and video camera, with the help of which even well-camouflaged enemy targets were detected, including at night.

- leads TASS source words.

As the troops explained, the Tachyon is a very reliable drone designed for use in harsh climatic conditions, which is why intelligence chose it as the main one.

The Tachyon unmanned aerial vehicle entered service with the Ministry of Defense in 2015. The UAV is made according to the "flying wing" scheme, with a take-off weight of 7 kg, the wingspan is 2 meters. An electric motor is installed, it can stay in the air for up to 120 minutes without recharging, the range is 40 km. Speed ​​- up to 100 km / h. Launched from a catapult, landing by parachute.

Comments

[dmi.pris1]

It was not the difficult climatic conditions that prompted it, but the banal shortage of such UAVs. Life has shown the urgent need for this equipment, but the problem of components has not yet gone away.

[AUL]

I would like to know (at least approximately) how many of these products work in Ukraine.

[mitrich]

Yes, probably a few dozen, maximum. What was riveted for the north. Like everything we have with UAVs, piece production.

[businessv]

Quote: mitrich

Like everything we have with UAVs, piece production.

Yes, unfortunately, all this has been true since the 90s, when the red-haired permanent nanoleader invented the motto: what will be lacking - we will buy it!

[mitrich]

Yes, not only he, the entire Kremlin and imperious camarilla thought so. It still burns as I remember the bald fat thief Luzhkov, with honor and billions sent over the hill. At one of the festivities of the day of the city of Moscow time, they interview this horseradish against the background of dozens of Mercedes-Benz special equipment. And the correspondent asks the freak: when, they say, we will produce it. And this thick snout, grinning, utters: why do we need it? We have oil ho-ho-ho-ho! It is necessary, and we will not buy this! Well, isn't it a hoot?

[AC130 Gunship]

For a flight of 2 hours (and in reality, perhaps less), it is enough to buy a quadcopter on the Internet. And it’s cheaper every 20, and you don’t need to cut the state. loot for R&D

[Evgeny_Sviridenko]

At least 2 more years before the completion of the construction of a plant in Zelenograd for the production of processors using 28nm technology. So yes, there are problems with the electronics now. In Turkey, in the meantime, the modern jet drone Bayraktar Kizilelma has already been tested. UAV "Hunter" promised to start producing during 2023. To be honest, I'm already tired of being in the role of catching up. There is such a good Soviet film "The Limits of the Possible". I think many of our officials did not even see him, mired in their petty-bourgeois little world.

[KCA]

Skated? He just took off for the first time, a couple more years they will bring at least a series

[Mavrikiy]

with a takeoff weight of 7 kg, the wingspan is 2 meters. An electric motor is installed, it can stay in the air for up to 120 minutes without recharging, the range is 40 km. Speed ​​- up to 100 km / h. Launched from a catapult, landing by parachute.

Frontline. I wonder how much they cost. I assume that he does not enter the zone of operation of serious air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Only works on the front line. And there, MANPADS are not often at hand ...

[Nicholas C.]

The article looks like an advertisement. From a fighter fighting in the NWO as a drone operator, the worst reviews are about Tachyon. "You can't see anything in them." Has something changed?

[mitrich]

They squeeze positive information out of everything. Even from where it is not. It is necessary to please the people with the "successes" of StrangeVO, but there are no reasons for joy. So they are cast out in all the media, incl. and on VO.

[Horon]

MANPADS do not capture such drones - there is not enough heat contrast.

[Botanologist]

Quote: Mavrikiy

MANPADS are not often at hand ...

MANPADS do not take such. Heat practically does not radiate.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

The Tachyon reconnaissance UAV is equipped not only with cameras, but also with a thermal imager, which allows you to identify the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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- "We can see everything from above - you know it!" ...
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[PN]

And what for the Red Banner Northern Fleet has a drone with a range of 40 km?

[Sergey250455]

This is for the Marine Corps. And it suits them for sure.

[tralflot1832]

Something like this now in our districts, the Northern Fleet, it turns out not only the fleet.

[Lech from Android.]

A drone should hover over enemy positions for days and not 120 minutes.
To hang a batch over drones with a flight duration of 24 hours a day, that would be the case.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Drone over enemy positions must hang for days not 120 minutes.

I am for". But "hang" will not allow air defense. And height doesn't help.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Mavrikiy

"hang" will not allow air defense

Not exactly...there are different differences! The UAV can control the selected "area" in the air from a considerable distance! The Armed Forces of Ukraine may not have enough long-range air defense systems in this "area"! In addition, the UAV loitering space should be covered by air defense systems! Also, the issue of equipping manned and unmanned aircraft with anti-missiles is becoming increasingly relevant! It's becoming a "trend"! If not today, then "tomorrow morning" it will not be "fashionable" to send an aircraft on a mission without anti-missiles!

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

In addition, the UAV loitering space must be covered by air defense systems!

Well, it's a room... It's like in an air battle, to hit from all air defense barrels.

Quote: Nikolaevich I

and unmanned aircraft with anti-missiles

And this is Jules with Verne....

[mitrich]

We do not have such, only "precocious" with a flight of 40-120 minutes. And a radius of several tens of kilometers.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: Lech from Android.

A drone should hover over enemy positions for days and not 120 minutes.
To hang a batch over drones with a flight duration of 24 hours a day, that would be the case.

I also wanted to write this.

[Suslin]

UAVs for reconnaissance are certainly good, even very good, but strike UAVs with a flight range of up to 500 km. just very much in short supply. And they are needed to fight 777 howitzers and HIMARS in the depths of the defense of the Khokhlobanderites. Probably the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Industry and Trade should think about ways to involve individuals and organizations in the manufacture of at least a glider without stuffing. Something like this.

[fiberboard]

And why not involve private traders in the design and production of UAVs? Now it doesn’t matter who will do it, the main thing is quality and quickly. Unfortunately, our industry is very inert, and in design bureaus there are often people who got there not by talent, but by pull. A private trader cannot afford this and is interested in the result of labor, unlike the state design bureau, which, in principle, does not care. For example, a private trader develops and produces sniper rifles, but where is the State Design Bureau?

[Askold65]

Here is the material from the editor-in-chief of the weekly "Arguments of the Week" Andrey Uglanov.
"About Belov's heavy drones that can change the course of the war."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QotZcLpqCqw

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Askold65

"About Belov's heavy drones that can change the course of the war."

A person is doing a useful thing, but it seems no one needs it. The shabby walls of the shooting room speak of a complete lack of interest in his products. This is our reality .... At the front, different drones are needed like air, but .... !!!

[mitrich]

There is no such device, a prodigy, capable of changing the course of the war at once. Yes, and UAVs, like other types of weapons, will be hundreds and thousands for a long time. By models.

[Askold65]

Quote: mitrich

There is no such device, a prodigy, capable of changing the course of the war at once. Yes, and UAVs, like other types of weapons, will be hundreds and thousands for a long time. By models.

It's understandable. This is just a "red word" to attract users to view. But the content is about the people of our country creating UAVs and talking about the capabilities of their products. Very informative video to broaden your horizons.

[Sergey Drozdov]

A private trader is not interested in the results of labor, but in profit, and thinking about profit, it is not possible to win a war. The worst thing about capitalism is profit. During the Second World War, no one thought how much he would cut the dough.

[fiberboard]

And profit is not the result of labor? You can formulate terms of reference and an acceptable price.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Sergey Drozdov

The private owner is not interested in the results of labor, but in profit,

We have guys in Novoross who rivet mini-stoves for heating in the field. Both simple and with a heat exchanger. So, their stove price is 2,5 times cheaper than that of large and small trading regional organizations. So there is a difference between a private trader and a private trader, there are grabbers, and there are manufacturers.
By the way, they have sent their products to the front more than once. We also took 13 pieces from them for the same purpose.

[ROSS_51]

Attract? Yes, private traders themselves addressed such an offer!
As a result...
https://ria.ru/amp/20190402/1552305098.html

[petroglyph]

In general, the approach to supplying troops needs to be radically changed. Especially for private traders, it is necessary to create a platform on which an order for a certain type of product and the volume of deliveries for the next month or more is posted. An indicative price is given. Any private trader can choose for himself the volume and deadlines and send an application. Prices will be many times less than those that sometimes get out now. Even now people are self-organizing for the production of stoves, cats, the prices themselves determine acceptable ones. Many do it for free, but not everyone has the opportunity. And then I did it, put it, get it. Bypassing all the freeloaders and bureaucrats

[Andy_nsk]

And why not involve private traders in the design and production of UAVs? Now it doesn’t matter who will do it, the main thing is quality and quickly. Unfortunately, our industry is very inert, and in design bureaus there are often people who got there not by talent, but by pull. A private trader cannot afford this and is interested in the result of labor, unlike the state design bureau, which, in principle, does not care.

I completely agree, small firms work much more efficiently than state-owned companies. And really no one will keep stupid people in a private office (I have forty years of experience as a development engineer and head of design bureau). But I smiled about the designers working through connections - I have never met such people.

[Horon]

UAV, with a flight range of up to 500 km.

The trouble is that at long distances it is necessary to increase the power of the control station, and this is a high probability of being covered in case of operation of the rer. Here we need work via satellite, but we either don’t have them, or we don’t have enough

[Suslin]

And why is it impossible to program the movement of shock UAVs to the place of work without constant monitoring and control? And upon arrival, so to speak, at the place of work, correct the point of impact via a communications satellite?

[Johnson Smithson]

And upon arrival, so to speak, at the place of work, correct the point of impact via a communications satellite?

this requires satellite communications, and we are bad with this, bad with satellites that support high-speed communications and with small-sized satellite communication kits for drones

this is so far only in the form of prototypes, not yet mass-produced

[Johnson Smithson]

Power will not help, because of the radio horizon, high-frequency communications only work for a few tens of kilometers, then only via satellite.

[Horon]

high-frequency communication only works for a few tens of kilometers, then only via satellite

...Or using another UAV as a repeater.

[Johnson Smithson]

If the connection is 500 km, then it will need too many repeaters, it is unreliable.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

The best strike UAV is cruise missiles. Their speed is higher, and the warhead is powerful enough, and the chance to overcome air defense is quite large.
As for flying lawn mowers, with their speed, the reaction time is prohibitive, and there are no chances for air defense to overcome, and even the combat load is simply ridiculous.
Yes, and an example of the same bayraktar, how his advertising fame quickly broke into reality.

[Arkadich]

Each weapon has its own purpose.
The UAV is needed as a constant irritant to the enemy. With a product, conditionally for a couple of thousand dollars, you have to fight with a serious air defense line, and there are always gaps in it. So it turns out such a "moped" is flying, shot down, spent at least one expensive missile, revealed positions, flew in and caused damage, maybe mom don't cry, the psychological state of a soldier, and even more so a civilian, for such arrivals.
And if the air defense was knocked out, then Karabakh is an example of how UAVs can frolic in the wild.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

The UAV is needed as a constant irritant to the enemy.

As practice has shown, MLRS is enough for this.

With a product, conditionally for a couple of thousand dollars, you have to fight with a serious air defense line,

It is not true, short-range military systems cope with such products.

and there are always holes in it.

Wrong, properly built air defense has no gaps.

So it turns out such a "moped" is flying, shot down, spent at least one expensive missile, revealed positions, flew in and caused damage, maybe mom don't cry too, the psychological state of a soldier, and even more so a civilian, for such arrivals.

They will spend on such a moped cheaper than himself, the same anti-aircraft projectile.
Air defense cannot be opened by such UAVs, the damage from it is scanty.

And if the air defense was knocked out, then Karabakh is an example of how UAVs can frolic in the wild.

If the air defense was knocked out, then manned aircraft will cause damage by an order of magnitude more in several times less time. Coming here UAV?

[Arkadich]

Every weapon used at the right time in the right place in the right hands is an irritant. Accordingly, the more and more diverse it is, the better.
MLRS is not subordinate to the infantry, but only interacts accordingly time. UAV is at hand. Even civilians with a couple of grenades seem to "nightmare" the enemy.
Short-range military systems do not always cope with such products, they are too inconspicuous, and not so often MANPADS are available.
No matter how you build air defense all at once, you won’t close the line of defense. Close point and echelon depending on the importance of the object or some directions.
To open it to find a position, the "moped" has little chance of destroying an anti-aircraft installation, although Syria, Karabakh, Ukraine have shown it, and it works out something more serious from the discovered position.
The plane will cause more damage, I do not argue, but will the plane chase a lone car, a group of soldiers? or a transformer? The plane flew in, flew away, the next one will arrive very soon, and the UAV can constantly hang. Imagine that with every buzz you will fall face down into the mud.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

Every weapon used at the right time in the right place in the right hands is an irritant. Accordingly, the more and more diverse it is, the better.
MLRS is not subordinate to the infantry, but only interacts accordingly time. UAV is at hand. Even civilians with a couple of grenades seem to "nightmare" the enemy.
Short-range military systems do not always cope with such products, they are too inconspicuous, and not so often MANPADS are available.

So, all the same Bayraktar TB2,
Unit cost ≈ 69 million USD for a complex consisting of 6 drones, 2 control stations, 200 units. ammunition and auxiliary equipment.
And now try to figure out how many such complexes, and even operators, will be needed to ensure coverage of the front line, given that the cruising speed, which just ensures the duration of the flight, is only 130 km / h. And also to fly to reload due to the meager ammunition.
This is without taking into account the opposition.

No matter how you build air defense all at once, you won’t close the line of defense. Close point and echelon depending on the importance of the object or some directions.

Is that how it seems to you? The reality is different, air defense is lined up in zones, and even with overlap, plus attracted forces.

To open it to find a position, the "moped" has little chance of destroying an anti-aircraft installation, although Syria, Karabakh, Ukraine have shown it, and it works out something more serious from the discovered position.

Open air defense, is it to detect positions? How everything is started however.

The plane will cause more damage, I do not argue, but will the plane chase a lone car, a group of soldiers? or a transformer? The plane flew in, flew away, the next one will arrive very soon, and the UAV can constantly hang. Imagine that with every buzz you will fall face down into the mud.

And what for to tear off a bunch of resources, which will be enough to buy four light attack aircraft to chase lone soldiers? Moreover, the "window" in air defense is already being closed.

[Arkadich]

At first I wanted to write a detailed answer, then I decided why to prove the obvious to a person. At least the fact that the whole world is moving towards UAVs of air, on / under water, ground. The wars in Syria, Karabakh, Ukraine clearly show this.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

The whole world is marching towards same-sex love, will you go there too?

[Andy_nsk]

UAVs for reconnaissance are certainly good, even very good, but strike UAVs with a flight range of up to 500 km. just very much in short supply. And they are needed to fight 777 howitzers and HIMARS in the depths of the defense of the Khokhlobanderites

I agree that attack drones with the ability to target small targets will definitely not be superfluous. It is not clear why 500 km? I think hundreds of them. And with a long range and a small EPR, scouts are needed.

[shikin]

How will you ensure the detection of moving targets over 500 km? How to provide guidance? GOS - at such a range it is not clear what will capture, or it should be very smart and expensive. Remote control - the farther from the front line, the easier it is to jam. It is impossible to do without additional reconnaissance of moving targets in the affected area. Using an expensive high-altitude reconnaissance drone behind the front lines with a high probability of loss - is it worth it to chase every howitzer?

[Suslin]

The combination of a video channel with an infrared channel has proven its effectiveness, in my opinion it is necessary to digitize the signatures of the necessary targets and supply them to UAV processors. The use of AI capabilities has not yet been fully explored and used. Something like this.

[shikin]

This works in the frontline zone. Communication via a video channel (TV guidance), as I see it, in the depths of the operational zone will be difficult due to various countermeasures. And again - "smart" GMN (recognition and selection of targets, AI) - isn't it too bold for one howitzer or MLRS? It will be much more expensive than the target being destroyed, which means that it will be possible to forget about mass character.

[Suslin]

In my opinion, using AI for signature selection is the way to minimize the equipment on the UAV, the control controller is not so expensive. Its software is much more expensive. Therefore, the digitization of video and infrared images plays a crucial role.

[Illanatol]

Quote: Mavrikiy

I assume that he does not enter the zone of operation of serious air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Only works on the front line. And there, MANPADS are not often at hand ...

And what is serious air defense to him? Will play the role of LC. How much does this "model" cost, and how much is a rocket from Buk?
And MANPADS are useless against such drones. The IR-GOS simply will not capture it (even on Geranium with an internal combustion engine it is poorly induced, but here there is no thermal trace at all).

[ibragim]

It has long been necessary to apply, these are needed in every unit.

[APASUS]

Reconnaissance should be carried out within a perimeter of 120 - 200 km. This is the near rear, weapons depots, fuel and lubricants, repair boxes, and a cluster of equipment. All this must be destroyed on the spot, first of all.

[valera75]

Quote: Lech from Android.

A drone should hover over enemy positions for days and not 120 minutes.
To hang a batch over drones with a flight duration of 24 hours a day, that would be the case.

And in winter, in frosts, this time will still be reduced by half.

[Vadim Topal Pasha]

"not even a year has passed" (C) - they wrote under the article, which also refers to the more frequent use of UAVs, only another, an Israeli clone, "Forpost" (?)

[Vadim Topal Pasha]

Quote: valera75

Quote: Lech from Android.

A drone should hover over enemy positions for days and not 120 minutes.
To hang a batch over drones with a flight duration of 24 hours a day, that would be the case.

And in winter, in frosts, this time will still be reduced by half.

And why? The efficiency of internal combustion engines increases at low temperatures. And who does not have an internal combustion engine, but only electricity? So maybe, well, what the hell are they?

[swan49]

I don’t know about the north, but for four years now it has been used in Syria. But, of course, not massively.

[Alexey G]

I hope they have done a lot since 2015 ... Of course we need them