The head of the Servant of the People faction, David Arakhamia, called the conditions for the resumption of negotiations with Russia

Ukraine will not enter into negotiations with Russia, even with the pressure exerted on it by some Western countries. Evidence of this is the recent statements by representatives of the regime regarding possible negotiations. The "conditions" for the resumption of negotiations were named by the head of the Servant of the People faction in the Verkhovna Rada, David Arakhamia.

According to the Ukrainian MP, in order for Ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table with Russia, only four things need to be done. First, withdraw all troops from Ukrainian territory, then pay reparations, punish all war criminals, and voluntarily surrender nuclear weapon. After fulfilling all these points, Kyiv will be ready to discuss the further fate of Russia and is even ready to provide it with "security guarantees."

After that, we are ready to sit down at the negotiating table and talk about security guarantees.

Arakhamiya said.

Citing these "conditions", Kyiv understands that Russia will not agree to them under any circumstances, and accordingly there will be no negotiations. And this is done for one thing - to show the West that Ukraine is ready for a dialogue with Moscow and even puts forward conditions, but the Russian authorities do not intend to make contact. In the West, no one will look that the conditions are unrealistic, the very fact of readiness for negotiations is important.

In Moscow, in turn, they said that today there is nothing to talk about with Ukraine, in Kyiv they are not ready for negotiations, hoping for continued assistance from the West. In addition, the Zelensky regime is a puppet and is not capable of making independent decisions. Washington does not see the possibility of dialogue with Russia, and this opportunity will appear only after the situation in Ukraine changes dramatically and the Russian army launches an offensive. That's when Kyiv will forget about all their conditions and start looking for ways to negotiate with Russia.

Comments

[Nikolay310]

our government is not tired of these mumbles about diplomacy, let's talk and other blah blah? hit them well "from all trunks" and let them think ... stop living in the interests of the Mazepins, Deripaskas and other trash

[Godzila]

Let them roll up their lips .. Soon they will sing differently, chattering their teeth from the cold and the stench from the toilets

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote from godzila

Let them roll up their lips .. Soon they will sing differently, chattering their teeth from the cold and the stench from the toilets

I'm surprised at your naivete. What does the authorities of the Outskirts care about the freezing people? And do not hope that the people of the Outskirts will rise up against this government. The people are divided according to social, ideological, territorial, etc. position. And the people have no organizing power, no leader.
Therefore, it is not worth hoping that the people will put pressure on the authorities. Our attacks on the electric power industry of the Outskirts, except for the increased hatred of the common people of the Outskirts towards us, have no significance for reducing the combat capability of the enemy troops. And the increased hatred of the people will come back to haunt us. I don't understand what is the purpose of this?

[rotfuks]

Your strikes on the power industry of Ukraine at least destroy the logistics of delivering troops and weapons to the front line. As for the disunity of the Ukrainian people. How to run to the Maidan and overthrow the legally chosen government, they immediately have a commonality. Very flexible Ukrainian people. When it is beneficial for them, they are divided, when you pay them, they are very united.

[Timur_kz]

Who ran to the Maidan? Kharkov, Odessa? Then they didn’t dare to come to the rescue, for 8 years they killed all the pro-Russians, the Ukrainian authorities raised the young to protect territorial integrity, and now “here you fucking Ukrainians” ... sit without light, heat. I have recently experienced in my own skin what it is like to sit without heat at minus 30 with burst batteries and burned out transformers (Kazakhstan, Ekibastuz, an accident at a thermal power plant).

At the front, this does not affect the elites, even more so. The civilian population suffers first of all, and the most unprotected layers. Want to disrupt logistics? Blow up bridges, railway junctions, locomotives, etc. In the meantime, it looks like impotent anger for the "regroupings" and "multiple moves" at the front. Minus as much as you like, but the Kyiv Bandera junta was nurtured by the Kremlin with its indecisive, inept policy and endemic corruption.

[rotfuks]

I don’t know about the Odessans on the Maidan, but during the burning of people in the Odessa House of Trade Unions, the Odessans briskly poured gasoline into bottles for Bandera. Have you seen these footage? And about rampant corruption, have you heard enough of Navalny or what?

[Timur_kz]

What conclusion should I draw from these frames? That the entire population of Odessa is Bandera? There were a lot of visitors there, mostly football ultras, which in other cities became the basis for the national corps. Is it clear why the protest failed, no one wants to be burned alive, or do you blame them for this? It’s not for us to draw such conclusions for sure (both for me and for you), we only do at home that we tolerate the arbitrariness of our own authorities. Why didn't Russia come to the aid of the inhabitants of Odessa then? After all, they were waiting for her, they thought how it would be in the Crimea. Because the Russian World was originally a media project, designed exclusively for the domestic agenda, and when the need arose to truly build and protect the Russian World, they screwed up.

[rotfuks]

………….Why didn’t Russia then come to the aid of the inhabitants of Odessa? After all, they were waiting for her, thinking how it would be in Crimea……….. questions “why” can be asked endlessly. Why did Kazakhstan not come to the aid of Alma-Ata when the city was burned and destroyed by unknown beggars? After all, the Alamaatins were waiting for the help of the authorities. But when it became necessary to simply protect their people, the Kazakh army and special services simply fought back and could not put up a combat-ready battalion to protect their citizens. I suspect that if it were not for the Russian World, then the last three juzes would have long ago repeated the fate of other juzes.

[Alex_mech]

In principle, everything is correct, only the people demand that both Ukrainians and Europeans "freeze". The people like it. So they put on a show for the people. So this is not malice, this is to calm their own. Panem et Circenses (Bread and circuses!)

[Alex_mech]

I don’t understand, don’t diesel “steam locomotives” go anywhere without electricity? It's been more than a month now and there's nothing wrong.

[Godzila]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I'm surprised at your naivety. What does the authorities of the Outskirts care about the freezing people?

No .. War to the last Svidomo .. This is their goal with the State Department and the world usurious kahal
By the way, they staged a famine in Russia .. Demanding grain for technology and other supplies of Gold, platinum, etc. did not take bastards!
During the Second World War, they demanded gold for supplies and cheated fabulous prices ..

[ABC-schutze]

Now, if Russia allocates some individual "negotiation place" to the Kyiv Natsiks, then not "for", but under the negotiating table ...

[Alf]

Quote from godzila

During the Second World War they demanded gold for supplies

Recall the conditions of Lend-Lease? Or maybe at least take a look at Vika?

[Alf]

Quote from godzila

By the way, they staged a famine in Russia ..T

It is when ???

[Konnick]

By the way, they staged a famine in Russia

In Russia, in the early 30s, there was no Holodomor. The Holodomor was in Ukraine, where the cunning people slaughtered their cattle before joining the collective farm and dragged the meat to the market, like "let the neighbor bring his bull", and the neighbor turned out to be even more cunning, he not only slaughtered the bull with the cow, he also rotted the grain in the pit. ..

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I don't understand what is the purpose of this?

And you think carefully, and don’t sculpt about the hatred of the "people" of Ukraine for the Russian people .. Here's a subject for analytics for you ... Well, you didn't serve in the army .... There is an old army saying - "does not reach, over your head, will reach, through the legs ... ". That is, if you want to live in warmth and with light in your apartments, if you want to go to a normal toilet, have water in your apartments, Change your Jewish Bandera power. They are catching men in eastern, central Ukraine ... The task of the Jew Bandera is to destroy the more or less sane Russian-speaking population .. To liquidate the ancient Orthodox Russian Church, which is currently the only connecting link with the Russian world ... The last charismatic leaders have been purged. They killed Oles Buzina and a number of other people. They bent over the exponentially wealthy Medvedchuk , dragged his face through the shit . The rest are afraid to blink the wrong way ... Obviously, here is a miscalculation of our intelligence, they did not create a base, did not prepare centers of the underground, resistance to the Jewish Bandera .. They overestimated the capabilities of the pro-Russian political elite of Ukraine. But, nothing ... the svidoukry are trainable ... So, let them march in the dark and cold, without sewage, water, and normal delivery of products to cities and towns .. It doesn’t reach, according to normal, it will reach through # o @ u - punishment .

[Penzyak]

On the part of Russia, the requirements for the conditions for negotiations are simpler: complete and unconditional surrender, the exit of all Bandera, led by Coconut Greens with their hands up and walking to the Siberian camps to await a tribunal, the surrender of all weapons, taking control of the entire border with neighboring countries, departure anywhere of all those who disagree to live and work for Russians from the territory previously mistakenly called Ukraine, the ban on the Ukrainian language and the mention in the press, the Internet and in conversation of the words "Ukraine", "Ukrainian" and their derivatives. the transfer of all property in that territory to the ownership of the Russian Federation with a ban on privatization and the presence of private property until the craving for freebies, envy and arrogance disappear from the consciousness of that people, a ban on three generations from occupying positions higher than a janitor and a sewer, and they should know and pronounce only two expressions "Yes, my lord" and "I beg your pardon, my master."

[Dartik]

Quote: Penzyak

On the part of Russia, the requirements for the conditions for negotiations are simpler: complete and unconditional surrender, the exit of all Bandera, led by Coconut Greens with their hands up and walking to the Siberian camps to await a tribunal, the surrender of all weapons, taking control of the entire border with neighboring countries, departure anywhere of all those who disagree to live and work for Russians from the territory previously mistakenly called Ukraine, the ban on the Ukrainian language and the mention in the press, the Internet and in conversation of the words "Ukraine", "Ukrainian" and their derivatives. the transfer of all property in that territory to the ownership of the Russian Federation with a ban on privatization and the presence of private property until the craving for freebies, envy and arrogance disappear from the consciousness of that people, a ban on three generations from occupying positions higher than a janitor and a sewer, and they should know and pronounce only two expressions "Yes, my lord" and "I beg your pardon, my master."

Yes, but if you write this about Russia? Will it be a manifestation of fascism? What if it's the other way around?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Nikolay310

our government is not tired of these mumbles about diplomacy, let's talk and other blah blah?

Well, what are you, this is an important component of our policy ..... According to politicians!

[Barberry25]

Well, for the sake of justice, it is worth noting that ours are mostly silent about diplomacy ... there is only one thesis - we are ready to negotiate .. but the strikes continue

[AAK]

Dear colleague "Nikolay310", the M and D you mentioned, as well as others, incl. nearby representatives of the so-called. The "patriotic bourgeoisie" are (at least legally) major taxpayers, as well as the organizers of significant economic power, the providers of a significant number of jobs, and also (due to various circumstances) sponsors of various very, very very significant groups where-where-needed. .. their interests are closely related to the interests of our economy and the type of structures that control its development ... in short, who will cut the meat so as not to get eggs in their personal basket? ...

[Alex_mech]

So this is "of all trunks." There is just a slight difference between reality and imagination.

[rotmistr60]

withdraw all troops from Ukrainian territory, then pay reparations, punish all war criminals and voluntarily surrender nuclear weapons

I forgot to add one more point - to voluntarily become a Ukrainian colony. Ek, how they were all scattered there, no matter how they burst from their "significance and greatness." With the increase in the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the requests of Ukrainian politicians and the impudence with which they put forward demands are only growing. In order to bring down this militant fervor and bring these "politicians" to their senses, attacks on the Ukrainian infrastructure and the Armed Forces of Ukraine should be continued on the rise. Drive them into the ground, for which they were preparing in the words of Klitschko.

[evgen1221]

Adik probably also thought and would have made similar demands if he had been given this, but when the troops reached the bunker, he began to look at things more realistically.

[Metallurg_2]

And he made the right decision.

[Andrey Moskvin]

And each villager has four Russian serfs. Plus a couple of hectares near Moscow.

[Godzila]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

And each villager has four Russian serfs. Plus a couple of hectares near Moscow.

By the way, laughter with laughter, but that's exactly what they dream about .. Become pans Damn it
The Poles dragged them for the forelocks, the Anglo-Saxons saw it for them and promised. They "served well" faithfully to Hitler ..

[Andrey Moskvin]

Yes, without laughing, I voiced their dreams, read their plans

[guest]

And on the iPhone from Abramovich, they are still guaranteed.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: rotmistr60

In order to bring down this militant fervor and bring these "politicians" to their senses, attacks on the Ukrainian infrastructure and the Armed Forces of Ukraine should be continued on the rise. Drive them into the ground, for which they were preparing in the words of Klitschko.

And you exactly "THE POLITICS" want to drive into the ground? Will it work? You can drive the people into the ground, but those who set such conditions, drive into the ground with you, with all your and our efforts, will not work from the word at all.
Forget the phrase - the people and the government are one. This is not the case in any other country in the world.

[Amateur]

First, withdraw all troops from Ukrainian territory, then pay reparations, punish all war criminals, and voluntarily surrender nuclear weapons.

A Key to the room where the money is

not needed?
ps A striking example of what negotiations with presidential aide Vladimir Medinsky can lead to.

[svp67]

Quote: Amateur

ps A striking example of what negotiations with presidential aide Vladimir Medinsky can lead to.

No, this is a vivid example of the fact that, de facto, Mr. Abramovich became the Minister of Foreign Affairs ...
It is already clear that both sides have chosen a strategy of war of attrition.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Yeah. With all due respect to Medinsky, as a historian, he is no negotiator.

[svp67]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Yeah. With all due respect to Medinsky, as a historian, he is no negotiator.

And why did you personally draw such a conclusion?

[Metallurg_2]

By the way, his historian is also mediocre.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Amateur

ps A striking example of what negotiations with presidential aide Vladimir Medinsky can lead to.

No, gentlemen, comrades, Medinsky has nothing to do with it. Even if instead of Medinsky, Lavrov, Shoigu or even SAM were conducting negotiations.
Knowingly unacceptable conditions, bordering on impudence, are set when they do not want any negotiations. Or someone (do not guess who?) does not allow them to lead.
Say - we agree to negotiations, but Russia does not want. The excuse is of course rotten, but still - an excuse.

[voice of reason]

diplomatic casuistry. "- We are ready for negotiations. - No, we are ready, but they are not ready. - No, we are more ready, and the enemy is not at all ready ...." All negotiations in this conflict are possible only in the format of unconditional surrender. While the guns are talking, there is no work for diplomats.

[Chaikovsky]

Still living in the realm of magical unicorns? They have only four conditions. Chapiteau continues to tour, but it's not funny anymore.

[N3onMiami]

And how do you want?
They felt their strength and our weakness. "Regroupings" and "gestures of good will" only spur them on and increase their confidence that Russia is weak and can be dictated to.
They themselves are to blame. 8 years made fun of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and now what?

[evgen1221]

Well, as it should be proved, in a madhouse, patients do not have and can not be of a single opinion on any issue. The nurses continue their treatment.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Only "wise" citizens of Ukraine could choose such power and such officials in baseball caps.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Only "wise" citizens of Ukraine could choose such power and such officials in baseball caps.

You, at one time, also chose Borya the drunk.

[Sergey39]

Borya, like all pot-headed leaders, was chosen by the CIA!
And who did you choose?

[Pantsuy]

All these statements, conversations, articles, and so on, concerning some kind of negotiations, cause gag reflexes in the vast majority of Russians. Maybe we shouldn't talk about it anymore?

[withoutreverse]

The trouble is that..Putin has no team of like-minded people. He has an environment, these are his business partners. And they are all concerned about the fate of their assets. And not the fate of our country. And this is sad.

[N3onMiami]

We chose it ourselves. Now we have to disentangle.

[N3onMiami]

What is it? Why cons?
Or do you deny that you yourself chose and endured all these years?

[Alf]

Quote: withoutreverse

Putin does not have a team of like-minded people.

And who chooses the boyars? Isn't it a king?

[Vasyan1971]

Kyiv will be ready to discuss the further fate of Russia and is even ready to provide it with "security guarantees."

Frostbitten in life, what is there ...

and voluntarily surrender nuclear weapons.

To whom to hand over, Zelensky? Arachamia?

[DDR]

Quote: Vasyan1971

surrender nuclear weapons.

Put him on the Topol, let him fly!

[notingem]

Better on a barrel of gunpowder. This has already been tested

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: DDR

Quote: Vasyan1971

surrender nuclear weapons.

Put him on the Topol, let him fly!

Quote: notingem

Better on a barrel of gunpowder. This has already been tested

Do not spend folk funds on a bastard. He dug a hole for himself, lay down himself, and digs in the green, and the green is ermak, and so on in turn .. Do we have shovels? If that let them dig with their hands.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: DDR

Put him on the Topol, let him fly!

Expensive, not worth it.

Quote: notingem

Better on a barrel of gunpowder. This has already been tested

Or just for a stake - cheap and cheerful!

[YOUR]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing less than surrendering nuclear weapons, the question is to whom? And sit and wait until Ukraine decides whether to be Russia or not.
It’s not like they really believe in this, or is it just ordinary parliamentary chatter, a game for the public.

[Tagan]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Yeah. With all due respect to Medinsky, as a historian, he is no negotiator.

And no one demanded much from him. From the very beginning it was clear that there was nothing special to talk about. Negotiations for show.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

And no one demanded much from him.

I do not understand why all the claims in the negotiations to Medinsky. it's just a "talking head" that voiced the position of Moscow at that time. This is a non-self-contained unit.

[notingem]

Did you also try to screw the board to Mannerheim as a dependent unit? Or like a talking head? Enough already to justify the completely conscious actions of bureaucrats

[tatarin1972]

Isn't it time for the guarantor to explain what our state is doing and where it is going? Are we destroying banderlogs or are we seeking negotiations? And then they kick "all sorts" with their knees.

[Nikolay-Nikolaevich]

And why was this monkey photographed without a cap?

[Metallurg_2]

It seems that, along with Field Marshal Ze, he lets him in the nostril. And it pins him sourly.

[seamen2]

Not really. just reproduces other people's Wishlist. like a voice recorder. that's all its function. remember and transmit.

[Tagan]

Quote: Mikhail Sidorov

And no one demanded much from him.

I do not understand why all the claims in the negotiations to Medinsky. it's just a "talking head" that voiced the position of Moscow at that time. This is a non-self-contained unit.

The world community insisted on a "peaceful settlement" - we held negotiations. They did everything they asked. We wash our hands))

[bandabas]

Will this asshole ever start following the dress code? Or will it remain at the level of Black Sea diggers with Georgian roots?

[your vsr 66-67]

Quote: bandabas

Will this asshole ever start following the dress code? Or will it remain at the level of Black Sea diggers with Georgian roots?

With Georgians? Yes, there are roots from the promised land!

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: bandabas

Will this asshole ever start following the dress code?

Yes, what is the dress code for these gopniks from the district (sorry, from the quarter).
Podolyak constantly walks in a drawstring shirt, Kuleba - in pants four sizes smaller, Zelensky - in an unwashed T-shirt, performs at the GA OO ... what kind of dress code are you talking about with these patients?

[wandlitz]

in order for Ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table with Russia, it is necessary to do only four things.
Dreamer. Under no circumstances will there be negotiations with you....

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

First, withdraw all troops from Ukrainian territory, then pay reparations, punish all war criminals, and voluntarily surrender nuclear weapons.

and on the back do not pee, what would the smell of the sea?!

[Hindu]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Only "wise" citizens of Ukraine could choose such power and such officials in baseball caps.

And in the Russian Federation, Edro wins all elections

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Hindu

And in the Russian Federation, Edro wins all elections

And who is needed? THX? Apple? Civil force Titov? Civil initiative Sobchak?
Yes, fortunately, these ghouls are not allowed to come close to governing the country ... they will sell Russia within a week - piece by piece! Passed already in the 90s the unconditional dominion of the ATP in the country!

[igorra]

It's time to liquidate this entire Jewish Kyiv Kahal, and the Russians will figure it out among themselves.

[your vsr 66-67]

voluntarily surrender nuclear weapons.

...... for some reason?

[TermNachTer]

Arakhamia is nobody and there is no way to call him, in Kuev they will do everything that the Washington Reich Chancellery orders.

[Mint Gingerbread]

The point is to negotiate with the current regime. Zelensky and his retinue must be removed without negotiations. Only then look at the situation.

[Mixweb]

What are they smoking there? Maybe even the right of the first night to give them?

[Vasilyevich Pensioner]

First, withdraw all troops from Ukrainian territory, then pay reparations, punish all war criminals, and voluntarily surrender nuclear weapons.

Cross out the first, cross out the second, cross out the third, cross out the fourth. The last one remains. Oh, I crossed everything out, but the last thing still remains - the elimination of Western henchmen and the enforcement of good neighborliness.

[Million]

When they bury him, let them not forget to put a baseball cap on his head.

[yuriy55]

Washington...West...Ukraine...Kyiv...
Are there men in Moscow who can say that complete and unconditional surrender can be a condition for negotiations?!
What kind of mockery of the civilian population of Russia is this?! Why is he stuffed with some defeatist ideas?

[Dartik]

Quote: yuriy55

Washington...West...Ukraine...Kyiv...
Are there men in Moscow who can say that complete and unconditional surrender can be a condition for negotiations?!
What kind of mockery of the civilian population of Russia is this?! Why is he stuffed with some defeatist ideas?

Because not everything is good at the front, they went from attack to defense. Here is the answer.

[iouris]

Citing these "conditions", Kyiv understands that Russia will not agree to them under any circumstances, and accordingly there will be no negotiations.

If this were so, then the discussion of this "news" would not take place.
So why publish such "information"?

[fa2998]

What else to write about? Why such articles? Some kind of negotiations, but with preconditions that already look like an ultimatum. NOBODY in Russia and Ukraine will go to such negotiations. The fate of the war is on the battlefield!

[Petr_Koldunov]

According to the Ukrainian MP, in order for Ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table with Russia, only four things need to be done.

What he is told to do, he does. What do you want from him - an ordinary clockwork monkey, who, in addition, also rubbed his brain with a baseball cap ...
The whole world has long known that in order for Ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table with Russia, not four things are needed, but only two:
1. So that not some incomprehensible "certain countries" put pressure, but from the United States they simply told Zelensky over the phone that they should sit down at the negotiating table.
2. To somehow persuade Russia to enter into these negotiations.

[Wbond]

....!...even there are no words to comment, some kind of surrealism!!...what are they smoking there!!!

[Alexander Rasmukhambetov]

Really smoking ..........................................

[Alf]

head of the Servant of the People faction in the Verkhovna Rada David Arakhamia.

True Arie...Ukrainian...

[BMP-2]

A Ukrainian is such a new dead-end branch in the evolution of ancient Ukrainians!

[Seryoga Nemuslim]

The gasket wants to deprive Russia of nuclear weapons, but it can’t, the little hands are short.

[shurik-063]

Why is he smoking so heavily? He writes lies!

[Nikolay-Nikolaevich]

And if Arakhamia is married to Jean-Pierre from the White House, it will turn out quite funny ... Two monkeys - not one!

[Prisoner]

Let him shove his conditions where the khinkali he ate come from.

[BMP-2]

You're right, damn it!
1) if Ukraine withdraws all troops from Ukrainian territory, this will mean its complete demilitarization;
2) if Ukraine pays reparations to all Russians, whom it has humiliated and oppressed in every possible way for 30 years, this will mean its partial denazification;
3) if Ukraine punishes all war criminals, this will mean its complete denazification;
4) if Ukraine forgets about its idea of ​​​​a fix with a "dirty bomb" and voluntarily surrenders the developments available in this plan, this will mean its final demilitarization and a change of course.
Of course, under such conditions there will be no obstacles to negotiations.
But there is one "but": but Ukraine is not going to do any of this...