The first suspect appeared in the Oboronservis case

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The first suspect appeared in the Oboronservis case

In the scandalous case of the Oboronservis holding, whose officials are accused of embezzling state property, the first and so far the only suspect has appeared. They became the general director of the commercial firm Expert Legal Support Center LLC Ekaterina Smetanova. Operatives of the Main Directorate for Economic Security and Anti-Corruption (GUEBiPK) of the RF Ministry of the Interior detained her on suspicion of complicity.

Gazeta.Ru, citing a source close to the investigation, reports that the company, headed by Smetanova, collaborated with Oboronservis, ensuring the realization of the released assets of the Ministry of Defense. In the following days, the investigators will petition the court for the arrest of the detained Smetanova. There is no official announcement yet.

Initially, Smetanova was involved in the case as a witness, in this status of October 31 she came to the investigator for questioning. After the interrogation, she was detained. Smetanova refused to cooperate with the investigation, taking advantage of the Constitution’s 51 article, which gives her the right not to testify against herself and her loved ones.

Earlier, Smetanov had been detained on suspicion of fraud with the Ministry of Defense property. She entered into contracts for sale at low prices and received for it "kickbacks" from the amount of the transaction. 8 February in the office of a large Moscow bank, police officers detained one of the suspects while receiving 18 million rubles for a positive decision to sell four Voentorg stores in Samara with a total value of 147 million rubles. Then, with a controlled transfer of 6, millions of rubles in the office was detained red-handed by Smetanov. However, she did not stay in prison for long: she was released, possibly because of friendly relations with high-ranking officials.

The Main Military Investigation Department of the RF IC has opened five criminal cases on the facts of fraud in the sale of real estate, land and shares owned by Oboronservice, which is controlled by the Russian Defense Ministry. Preliminary damage from the sale of only eight real estate objects amounted to more than three billion rubles. Several employees of the holding were searched. Thus, investigators seized 3 a million rubles, documents, a large number of antiques, paintings and jewelry from the former employee of the Ministry of Defense Yevgenia Vasilyeva.
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  1. +2
    1 November 2012 14: 56
    They drip under Serdyukov laughing
    1. +15
      1 November 2012 15: 06
      Without reading the article he conjectures "The first suspect has appeared in the defense service business - SERDYUKOV"
      1. +15
        1 November 2012 15: 28
        investigators found the second suspect during a search in the apartment of the first suspect wassat
        1. +1
          1 November 2012 15: 36
          No, well, I couldn’t know anything about the deeds in my department !!! and if you didn’t know then it’s somehow strange.
          1. 0
            1 November 2012 20: 58
            If you didn’t know, then you need to drive him with a filthy broom with shame, but, if you did, then hang him for something, until he dries and show to everyone in a dried form and frighten, so that others with sticky hands would not be comfortable.
          2. +2
            1 November 2012 21: 01
            I just read the news about 10 minutes ago, maybe a duck, but in short, 3 case with jewelry was seized from this aunt and so on and Serdyukov himself opened the door for some reason, who for some reason ended up in the suspect’s 13 room apartment early in the morning in family underpants.
        2. +2
          1 November 2012 18: 04
          And where did you think Serdyukov was fed? Therefore, I did not notice and did not want to know.
        3. VAF
          VAF
          +5
          1 November 2012 20: 53
          Quote: strannik595
          investigators found the second suspect during a search in the apartment of the first suspect


          +! drinks

          And already "cinema" about this .... "nuance" lol removed! I invite you to view !!! drinks

      2. Gorchakov
        0
        1 November 2012 16: 34
        Quote: klimpopov
        Without reading the article he conjectures "The first suspect has appeared in the defense service business - SERDYUKOV"

        And it doesn’t matter how many suspects ... The main thing is to whom the accusation is read ... !!!
      3. +4
        1 November 2012 19: 27
        Interestingly, BB will smear his protege again? In light of what has already been officially covered, it will be difficult for Serdyukov to deny his involvement, because at least at one of the objects in question he regularly appeared personally and the people in the Temryuk District call the complex "Serdyukov's dacha". The situation is such that if Mr. Taburetkin by some miracle turns out to be unaware, then the conclusion suggests itself that he does not correspond to his position, and if he is aware (which is confirmed by the facts) then he is an accomplice (if not the organizer). In both cases, the government, the president, the duma (I just do not know who really rules) are OBLIGED to conduct a full check of Serdyukov's activities as the Ministry of Defense and very closely consider the contracts to which Serdyukov was involved, and doubly closely to those contracts and decisions that caused a public outcry ... (Mistral, Lynx, etc.)
      4. pribolt
        0
        1 November 2012 23: 54
        The second defendant in the case of "Oboronservis", suspected of two episodes of fraud
        http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2012/11/01/n_2598657.shtml
      5. +1
        2 November 2012 11: 10
        Quote: klimpopov
        Without reading the article he conjectures "The first suspect has appeared in the defense service business - SERDYUKOV"


        Why was the investigation not afraid to compromise an influential minister? Among the important detractors of Mr. Serdyukov these days, rumor referred, for example, to the previous head of the defense department, S. Ivanov. There was even a rumor that the ex-prime minister and former head of Rosfinmonitoring gave the move to the rich texture accumulated by the managers from the Ministry of Defense and Oboronservis, and Mr. Serdyukov’s father-in-law V. Zubkov ... allegedly explained this early visit of the investigation team to Vasilyeva’s apartment, where Serdyukov ended up in shorts and slippers at this early time laughing




        There are two points of view regarding the future fate of Serdyukov.
        First one. Emergency resignation
        “The majority of military leaders in the Armed Forces, the top of the military-industrial complex, are dissatisfied with the current Minister of Defense,“ At the end of November, the country's military-political leadership usually sums up the results of combat training and transformations in the Armed Forces. It is possible that on the eve of the upcoming collegium of the Ministry of Defense or immediately after it, V. Putin will sign the corresponding decree. ”

        Vitaly Tsymbal, vice president of the Academy of Military Economics and Finance

        Second. Serdyukov again get out

        “As part of the reform of the Armed Forces, Serdyukov has three tasks. This is the improvement of the new organizational and staff structure - it is still working in an “experimental mode”. These are social problems - fulfillment of housing obligations has “gone” for 2013-2014. This is the "adjustment" of relations between the ministry and the defense industry. I think Serdyukov will be allowed to bring the task to its logical conclusion, then it will be possible to "demobilize"

        Konstantin Makienko, Deputy Director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies:

        We will actually have to wait for the final Board of the Ministry of Defense, where distribution is usually carried out elephants or gingerbread. As well as the completion of the investigation. Judging by everything, the main defendants will again be switchmen - performers (such as Smetanova) and the untouchables, as always, will remain afloat and will transfer to other chairs.
    2. SSR
      +4
      1 November 2012 16: 00
      Quote: Sith Lord
      They drip under Serdyukov

      here Komrad sent a link to an employee’s blog from Izhmash .. here are excerpts.
      1. Kuzyuk M. V. At first we had hopes associated with him, but quickly realized that this was an empty person, not independent in decision-making. This is a doll. In reality, the plant is managed by Igor Nikolayevich Zavyalov, deputy. General Technologies Technologies for Financeand his wife, chief accountant of Rosoboronexport. In 2010, Zavyalov, during the redistribution of property, got himself Izhmash and put his man there. Zavyalov is familiar with Kuzyuk through Sergei Kulikov, head of the Russian Technologies staff. Kulikov studied with Kuzyuk. Kulikov is a very close friend of Zavyalov (there is even a rumor that he is very, very close in the bad sense of the word, but I don’t want to retell the rumors). Kulikov and dragged his classmate.

      2. Kuzyuk's successor MV They say that Zavyalov has already decided on Kuzyuk's successor. Recently, Aleksandr Aleksandrovich Kosov was appointed director of production at Izhmash. Zavyalov wants to make him a new director - in fact, a scapegoat for everything that Kuzyuk and his team have done.
      They say about Kosovo that he is a protege of Perm bandits. Do not be surprised, but this is a real scheme. Back in 2009, they tried to bend the entire sports hunt for themselves, but they were not allowed to. But in 2010, Zavyalov was able to overthrow the previous leadership.

      http://kwas-1972.livejournal.com/246002.html
      In general, it's just stsuko they have a family business.
    3. +1
      1 November 2012 16: 11
      Right on target!
    4. +1
      1 November 2012 21: 01
      Quote: Sith Lord
      They drip under Serdyukov

      Drip usually ON, and UNDER - Dig laughing
  2. +8
    1 November 2012 14: 57
    They threw a trawl, and a gudgeon was caught. Well, laughter
    1. +2
      1 November 2012 15: 13
      Everything is as usual - steal a bun-sit for two years, steal 6 lyam - immediately released.
      Apparently this time, its amount turned out to be a "roll" ...
  3. Brother Sarych
    +2
    1 November 2012 15: 03
    We must understand that we were exposed to a goat ... no, a scapegoat? She was probably the cleanest of that company? Have you started touching the rest?
    1. Igor
      +4
      1 November 2012 15: 27
      Earlier, Smetanov had been detained on suspicion of fraud with the Ministry of Defense property. She entered into contracts for sale at low prices and received for it "kickbacks" from the amount of the transaction. 8 February in the office of a large Moscow bank, police officers detained one of the suspects while receiving 18 million rubles for a positive decision to sell four Voentorg stores in Samara with a total value of 147 million rubles. Then, with a controlled transfer of 6, millions of rubles in the office was detained red-handed by Smetanov. However, she did not stay in prison for long: she was released, possibly because of friendly relations with high-ranking officials.


      So it’s not a fact that she will become this goat laughing
      1. Mikado
        +4
        1 November 2012 16: 33
        This is generally chaos. I stole it once, took it in the act, not only did I release it, I also left it at the same place of work. Indeed, only mass executions will save the motherland
  4. ryadovoi
    +6
    1 November 2012 15: 04
    Some kind of furniture store, not Oboronservis.
    1. +1
      1 November 2012 19: 24
      potato and stool factory
  5. I-16M
    +4
    1 November 2012 15: 07
    It's a shame from predictability.
    When the "Serdyukovskaya" sale of the Moscow Region's property began, any sane person realized that this was an understated cost + kickback. The fact that an investigation, and possibly a court, has been added to this simple scheme cannot but rejoice.
  6. ZeF
    +2
    1 November 2012 15: 15
    Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov may soon be interrogated in a case of fraud at Oboronservis, the Kommersant newspaper reported on November 1. According to the newspaper, the investigation will bring the minister to this case as a witness. The Ministry of Defense declined to comment on this information to Kommersant.

    On the initiation of a criminal case under part 4 of article 159 (fraud), clause “c” of part 3 of article 286 (abuse of power), part 3 of article 285 (abuse of authority) and part 2 of article 201 (abuse of authority) of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation became known 25 October. According to the investigation, a number of Defense Ministry officials sold property belonging to the department at low prices. The amount of damage exceeded three billion rubles.

    On October 25, searches were conducted at Oboronservis and at the former head of the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense, member of the board of directors of the company Evgenia Vasilyeva. During the search, jewelry and antiques were seized from Vasilyeva, who lives in the same house as Serdyukov. A former Defense Ministry official denies allegations of fraud.

    On the evening of October 31, it became known about the first detention before the Oboronservis case: according to media reports, the director general of the commercial company Center for Legal Support Expert LLC, Ekaterina Smetanova, was detained. Kommersant calls her "close friend" Vasilyeva.

    Smetanova was already accused of fraud in February 2012: the investigation suspected her of trying to buy a low-cost military building in Samara. However, the case against the businesswoman was dismissed due to insufficient evidence.

    “Legal Support Center 'Expert'”, according to “Kommersant”, in December 2011, was looking for a buyer of OJSC “31st State Design Institute of Special Construction” (GII). This institute, which has branches in St. Petersburg, Khabarovsk, Kaliningrad and Balashikha, in 2009 became a subsidiary of Oboronservis, and in 2011 it was recognized as a non-core asset of the Ministry of Defense. As a result, Vita Project, wholly owned by Expert, acquired 70 percent of the shares of the 31st NDEP - at a price that was half the market price, for 145 million rubles. Then the shares were resold.
    http://telegrafist.org/2012/11/01/15441/
    1. +4
      1 November 2012 18: 08
      Quote: ZeF
      Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov may be interrogated in the near future on fraud case

      You may not even dream to get out and remain mo. The Russian proverb says: Shit * oh does not sink "
      1. ZeF
        0
        1 November 2012 20: 46
        If the head of the Ministry of Defense is dragged to court, even a witness, then this is a bell at his door. Of course I would like the door to be opened from my feet, but .... wait and see
  7. +3
    1 November 2012 15: 19
    I don’t think that they’ll get to the bottom of Lavochkin. If you would like, would have long been demoted.
    This is something else. Most likely the "Stool" itself changes the frames for itself.
    I have no doubt that just those who are not involved in these acts, or did not want to share, will fly their heads.
    But as they say by the hand, we did not catch anyone, so we'll see what happens next.
    1. I-16M
      +7
      1 November 2012 15: 26
      So you wrote Lavochkin, and at first I thought about the aircraft designer. Not worthy of the Minister of Defense of this nickname, not mature wink
      1. +4
        1 November 2012 19: 26
        then a bench! for on the stool the muzzle has become wider!
  8. 0
    1 November 2012 15: 26
    ... If you want to win, beat in the very heart (Taburetkin) of the enemy. (c) Clausewitz. Who is fighting the investigative committee and the prosecutor's office? .... smoke screen, nothing more.
  9. +5
    1 November 2012 15: 34
    A serious result of the serious work of a serious organization in a serious matter during the week. The mountain gave birth to a mouse. We’ll see what happens next - apparently from the mouse they will go to flies, however nanotechnology (((
  10. +2
    1 November 2012 16: 00
    As Winnie the Pooh used to say: "It seems to me that the bees suspect something ..."
    The investigation department employs those who really love this cartoon. Do not suspect, but already need to plant. Everything is there, in plain sight, without any frills, rubbing and rubbing! Here are just some blind and deaf around! Well at least they saw something, poor fellows!
  11. +4
    1 November 2012 16: 02
    Yes, under Stalin they would be shot all, and now they will be given 4 years each, and even then conditionally. Yes
    1. Mikado
      +4
      1 November 2012 16: 31
      I want to add that under Stalin all of their property would be confiscated, their family would be sent to camps.
    2. 0
      1 November 2012 18: 11
      Quote: Simon
      Yes, under Stalin they would be shot all, and now they will be given 4 years each, and then conditionally
      Are you dreaming of judging the "most honest" people - the mind, honor and conscience of Russian democracy? You that henbane overeat, only for these thoughts it is time for you to be tribunal! angry
  12. +2
    1 November 2012 16: 16
    Indeed, the mountain gave birth to a mouse !!! What was the beginning, what were the attempts, but everything ended in a banal: "PUK"! Found a switchman.
  13. +4
    1 November 2012 16: 16
    As comrade Zhiglov said - "A thief must be in prison" ...
    1. +4
      1 November 2012 18: 14
      Quote: UzRus
      As comrade Zheglov said - "A thief should sit in prison" ...
      Unfortunately, he said that in the days of the USSR, and now we have "democracy", and "respected people" should not sit in prison - only in the armchair of an official.
  14. +5
    1 November 2012 16: 24
    Well, so the "switchman" has been appointed ... All the rest, including the unforgettable minister, of course, are crystal clear people ...
    What kind of state is this ....!?
    1. Owl
      +8
      1 November 2012 16: 35
      Everyone remembers perfectly well the one who appointed Serdyuk to the post, this "citizen" is again in the post of president, VVP knows perfectly well the whole situation with the collapse of the army and turning it into a feeding trough, but so far Serdyuk has not climbed (into an impudent one without taking warnings from his father-in-law) in the "neighbor's vagina" there were no "assaults" on the "near-commercial" "army" and no "manager from defense" was promoted. Seeing such a reaction of the "power", this is how you feel about this "new-old power".
    2. s1н7т
      +2
      1 November 2012 21: 16
      Quote: vadimN
      What kind of state is this ....!?


      For which they voted, they received laughing
  15. Gorchakov
    +1
    1 November 2012 16: 30
    I think that this is only the beginning of the end of the protector of this scheme .... I think that this is the weakest link in the chain so far ... We will look further ....
  16. akbarr
    +2
    1 November 2012 16: 37
    Well, they’ll plant these fools now, and they will threaten Serdyukov with a finger, right? He, as always, had nothing to do with it, he didn’t know ....
  17. +2
    1 November 2012 16: 42
    The only suspect is "suspected of ASSISTANCE"
    Will she find a consequence to whom she collaborated? .. what
  18. +1
    1 November 2012 17: 36
    Found switchman !!! And the main ones will pay off, unfortunately!
  19. +1
    1 November 2012 17: 37
    Lord investigators cannot convict a person. This can only be done. court and no one else. Investigators do only part of the work, then the prosecutor’s office does this.
    You think such things just happen. It will be a beautiful revealing whipping. Another in turn is Slavyanka. And there no less than a dope spinning.
  20. +2
    1 November 2012 17: 52
    "Earlier, Smetanova was already detained on suspicion of fraud with the property of the Ministry of Defense." However, she remained in her place (apparently an irreplaceable worker), but the commander of the Swifts was fired only on suspicion. Well, sho YOU ​​want "democracy" ?.
    In the Russian Federation, those who stole millions of rubles from the state are awarded, and those who honestly gave their health and the best years to serving this state are spread rot - and this is just a paradox.
    The product of M. T. Kalashnikov is without work, and it is time to start !.
  21. +4
    1 November 2012 18: 09
    Catch on in the fall, we’ll see how this whole gimmick ends:

    Attention! You do not have permission to view hidden text.


    Released due to "friendly" (read genital) ties, but released the same, maybe now "will work" overtime and the entire evidence base will be eaten by a virus or mouse.
  22. +1
    1 November 2012 18: 11
    The first suspect has appeared in the Oboronservis case "
    "It was Ekaterina Smetanova, General Director of the commercial firm" Expert Legal Support Center "LLC. Operatives of the Main Directorate of Economic Security and Anti-Corruption (GUEBiPK) of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation detained her on suspicion of complicity."
    The accomplice, (i.e. the assistant), was detained, but where are the main defendants, and what are they doing at this time? Have they been given the opportunity to cover their tracks?
  23. +2
    1 November 2012 19: 10
    The country residence, which residents of the Krasnodar Territory call nothing other than "Serdyukov's dacha" or "Serdyukov's villa", has been under arrest for some time.

    Serdyukov's dacha "or" Serdyukov's villa "is a land plot of 3 hectares on the coast of the Azov Sea in the Temryuk region of the Krasnodar Territory, where the country complex" Ellada "is located. The complex has several luxurious buildings with a conference hall, a swimming pool and a park Also, a helipad and a pier for boats were equipped.
    Recall, in total, more than 300 million rubles were allocated from the state budget for the construction of the boarding house. And the land left with buildings for only 92 million rubles.
    In total, the investigation shows interest in documents for the sale of more than 150 real estate objects, writes RBC daily.

    Author: RBC Real Estate
    1. 0
      2 November 2012 19: 02
      Please inform me when this type will be in the country. He violates the basic law of Russian business.
  24. 0
    1 November 2012 19: 13
    And the name "Expert" Legal Support Center should be added to embezzle public funds. Now they say two. priceless.
  25. +3
    1 November 2012 19: 18
    The SKR employees are interested in how among the property sold by the Ministry there was a unique and highly profitable 31 State Special Design Institute (GPISS), which reconstructed cosmodromes, designed silo launchers of the Strategic Missile Forces, nuclear submarines and aerospace defense facilities. Until recently, the company was headed by E. Vasilieva.

    In April, 2009, when it was a question of privatizing the institute, employees of the GPISS addressed a letter to A. Serdyukov, opposing the inclusion of Oboronservis into the holding. However, the institute was transformed into a joint stock company, and soon it turned out to be on the list of non-core assets of the Ministry of Defense.

    In December, 70% of the institute's shares were sold to Vita Project LLC, 29,9% to Sosnovoborelektromontazh OJSC, the state, represented by the Minister of Defense, had one share. A. Serdyukov could receive a golden share, which allowed him to influence the fate of the enterprise on behalf of the state, but the official preferred to limit himself to the ordinary one.


    Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/01/11/2012/822889.shtml?autoplay
    1. +1
      1 November 2012 21: 05
      Thank you very much for the information, is it really not enough to hide this "honest democrat and reformer of the RF Armed Forces" for 10 years, with the confiscation of property stolen from the Motherland! am
  26. -1
    1 November 2012 19: 38
    Guys, honestly - I'm paying. Here I sit, read and - cry.
    I want good weapons and good ammunition. All.
    We can’t even do this?
  27. +3
    1 November 2012 19: 44
    Has anyone heard something about this ???

    “Please dismiss me of my own free will,” the words of the statement filed yesterday by Sergey Stepashin to President Vladimir Putin began with just these words. Together with Sergei Vadimovich, the Accounting Chamber can leave Valery Goreglyad, Deputy Stepashina, as well as twelve people from the department’s auditors - all of them also filed for their own dismissal.

    http://news.mail.ru/politics/10796292/comments/?thread=107717
    1. VAF
      VAF
      +8
      1 November 2012 21: 05
      Quote: mark021105
      Has anyone heard something about this ???


      Arthur, the entire Moscow Internet "exaggerates" this news since Monday! +! recourse

      On Monday, October 29, Chairman of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation Sergei Stepashin submitted a resignation letter to the president.

      “Please dismiss me of my own free will,” the words of the statement filed yesterday by Sergey Stepashin to President Vladimir Putin began with just these words. Together with Sergei Vadimovich, the Accounting Chamber can leave Valery Goreglyad, Deputy Stepashina, as well as twelve people from the department’s auditors - all of them also filed for their own dismissal.

      A little later, on the same day, Sergey Stepashin gave our agency an exclusive interview in which he talked about the reasons for his decision and what was really happening in the highest echelons of power in Russia.

      “The last straw that overwhelmed my patience and encouraged me to write a letter of resignation was the last month’s planned audit of the Moscow enterprise Tekhmashoboron OJSC, controlled by the Ministry of Defense. We have uncovered facts of embezzlement of state funds in the amount of 3 billion rubles. The audit materials were transferred by us to the General Prosecutor's Office, which once again refused to initiate criminal proceedings.

      And at that moment I finally ceased to understand - why does our department exist? For 10 months of this year, we uncovered theft of 37 trillion rubles from the state budget. Just think about this number! Only a little more than 19 trillion rubles will be spent on the purchase of new weapons, equipment and the modernization of units in service, salaries for servicemen and pensions for retired soldiers, from 2011 to 2020. And here, in just 10 months, the country’s budget was stolen and withdrawn abroad, through various offshore companies, almost twice the budget of the Ministry of Defense for a decade!

      Everything did not fit in, I'll try to connect after sending!
      1. VAF
        VAF
        +7
        1 November 2012 21: 14
        Quote: vaf
        Everything did not fit in, I'll try to connect after sending!


        "..... Did you know that the depreciation of fixed assets in all industries today reaches 90%, while the dynamics of their renewal does not exceed 2%? Compared to 1970, the average age of equipment in the domestic industry has increased by almost seven times. In 1970, 70,8% of the capacity was under five years old, and now it is only 9,6%. Did you know that half of the equipment just needs to be thrown into the trash - it is dangerous for the lives of workers and cannot be used in production?

        And we know all this - this is our work.

        Now, what do you think, how many criminal cases have been opened by the prosecutor’s office based on the materials of our inspections provided to her? Five! Yes, yes, there are only five criminal cases, the most extreme of which is the Oboronservis case. Now tell me, how many people have been prosecuted? Not a single one! And if today I am asked: “What is the meaning of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation?”, I will not be able to answer this question. I do not feel fit. In this regard, I submitted a letter of resignation addressed to President Vladimir Putin. And now let him have a choice: “Does Russia need the Accounts Chamber at all or not?” And I, and my subordinates, made my choice - we no longer intend to consume money from taxpayers of the Russian Federation aimlessly. ”

        At present, it is not known whether Vladimir Putin accepted the resignation of the Accounts Chamber staff. Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov, answering journalists' questions, replied that the president will consider the resignation and make a final decision after a personal meeting with Sergei Stepashin, which is scheduled for the last day of October.


        Source: http://fognews.ru/sergej-stepashin-...v-otstavku.html
        1. +6
          1 November 2012 22: 31
          Stepashin's revelations are a shock (at least for me). I am beginning to understand those who are with Bolotnaya .... They at least honestly say that they are liberals and work off the money of the State Department, and these mra3i hide behind patriotism and care for the Motherland. I don’t believe that dear VV doesn’t know what’s going on and on what scale, and not only in defense, but if you don’t know, then why should he be so smart? Any program of state financing is primarily sharpened for cutting even at the stage of approval. Only the stupid one did not understand that the purchase of Rysya and Mistrals is purely corrupt transactions. Well, for the life of me, there are no such technologies in them that our industry would not have created and mastered with commensurate funding. Only a dumb one does not understand that Medvedev's "libirization of the defense industry," that is, the elimination of the state from the defense industry, is the worst thing that can happen to the defense complex. The new wave of privatization will end with the complete destruction of the Russian defense industry. And they openly piss us in the eye, calling another betrayal a blessing.
          A big polar fox came to my country. I would love to join a real opposition party, only there are no clowns, or the same militants, but not at the feeding trough. If another military coup happens in this country, I WILL stand up under his banner.
          1. +5
            1 November 2012 22: 53
            Quote: avdkrd
            If another military coup happens in this country, I WILL stand up under his banner.
            I, too, I think other officers for whom the Motherland with a capital letter will support me.
      2. +5
        1 November 2012 21: 21
        Of course, this is not L. Rokhlin, but an act worthy of respect. It was necessary to bring the official to the GDP in such a way that even he refused to participate in the plunder of the Motherland!
        I wonder what kind of reaction the GDP will have, for all these events.
        There will not be an adequate reaction, it's time for the barricades.
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +3
          1 November 2012 21: 52
          Quote: d.gksueyjd
          It was so necessary to bring the official GDP


          Here, any sane person who comes into contact with this group of "celestials" can easily take down the roof!
          well, there will be no reaction ... it will be as always ... she drowned or something like that! +! soldier Unfortunately.... crying
          1. +2
            1 November 2012 22: 14
            Quote: d.gksueyjd
            I wonder what kind of reaction the GDP will have, for all these events. There will not be an adequate reaction, it's time for the barricades.

            Otherwise it will be too late, as with Gorbachev and Yeltsin
  28. +5
    1 November 2012 20: 09
    Millions of dollars seized from subordinate Serdyukov


    Officers of the Investigative Committee during the search 13-room apartment ex-officials of the Ministry of Defense Evgenia Vasilyeva - defendants in the criminal case of real estate fraud departments - security officials seized one and a half thousand jewelry worth several million dollars, reports Life News.

    As Izvestia wrote, the security forces came to Vasilyeva’s apartment on the morning of October 25. Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov was also there at that time. Later it turned out that active investigative actions took place in the military department and structures of Serdyukov for more than one day.

    According to the investigation, a number of senior military officials in 2009-2010 engaged in scams in the sale of real estate, land and shares owned by the state holding OJSC Oboronservis (registered capital - 190,9 billion rubles). At this time, the head of the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense was just Evgeny Vasya
    Where have you been ????? !!!! and how many more such assistants, and the minister himself ????????????????????????
  29. doctor3006
    +8
    1 November 2012 20: 45
    And where are all admirers of Putin, such as Yesaul, they do not even comment on the successes of Putin’s defense minister and his harem. Nothing to say?
    1. +1
      1 November 2012 21: 26
      I confess, I did not understand, I hoped that VVP would understand that it was time for thieves to replace their chairs with a saw "friendship 2", but "the humpbacked grave would fix it."
      L. Rokhlin was killed, the communists had already prosra * and the country, Zhirinovsky was odd, Shamanov did not nominate himself, so it turned out that there were no options except for the GDP. Offer a decent candidate?
      1. doctor3006
        0
        12 February 2013 16: 06
        Easy. Kvachkov.
        1. 0
          12 February 2013 16: 41
          Already planted
  30. patriot2
    +4
    1 November 2012 21: 30
    VAF,
    You are as right as ever. It will only turn out that all those suspected and guilty of this rampant plunder of Russia are "incurably ill" and will again evade responsibility in VIP hospitals or simply hide behind a hillock on a previously prepared airfield. What is Russia to them? - this is not their homeland. Bloodsucking bugs have a homeland where you can drink blood. As long as the bugs are in power, Russia will be an impoverished country despite all its rich resources.
    1. VAF
      VAF
      +4
      1 November 2012 21: 55
      Quote: patriot2
      While bedbugs are in power, Russia will be a poor country, despite all its rich resources.


      As M. Zakharov once said, although this is not a dogma and I belong to him ... not very, but the idea is very sound ... every nation deserves to have such rulers who later have the same people ... they have! request +! drinks
  31. s1н7т
    +4
    1 November 2012 21: 40
    Well, it was clear from the "face" of this representative of Putin's cohort that sooner or later he would be caught. And then there's the divorce from Zubkov's daughter. He, of course, is furious, because not only the divorce, but also the money was taken to the left, not to the family ... This will not be imprisoned, probably. Dangerously. Car accident? Too obvious. But they will not be left for long. Maybe they will compensate for the losses, and then - as an ambassador to Papua New Guinea ... Although, knowing what kind of type, it is better - a car accident.

    And if you look "shirsh" - here it is, the face and engine of the reform of the Armed Forces, declared by Putin. I am waiting for the reaction of the "patriots", which compared to 1913 ... laughing
    1. VAF
      VAF
      +2
      1 November 2012 22: 06
      Quote: c1n7
      And if you look "shirsh" - here it is, the face and engine of the reform of the Armed Forces, declared by Putin


      And if you look not "shirshe", but "wider". +! wink it will generally become so dreary that ...... I don’t even want to talk.
      And we here "care" for the revival of the "power and might" of the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Federation and Russia as a whole ... we dream, but if only ... yes ... and then ... our own wedding ... tender grandmother -canars and everything under the everlasting gaze of the great and almighty !!!

      Well, what can they say ... these "inetpatriots". will pass day two and again ...
    2. 0
      2 November 2012 12: 51
      Quote: c1n7
      And then there’s a divorce from Zubkov’s daughter. He, of course, is furious, because not only a divorce, but he also took money to the left, not to his family.


      Here is also a moment that reinforces pessimism. They didn’t bother him because he was a thief, but because he didn’t behave that way and "stepped on the tail" of an important uncle ... I would sit quietly in the family and steal calmly until a well-deserved pension ...
  32. patriot2
    +2
    1 November 2012 21: 57
    And yet, before a minister or officer, if something like this happened (or in his department among his closest circle) - he would resign from the CAM himself or with a pistol. Immediately ... ostrich pose: head - in the sand. Neither honor nor conscience is long gone.
    1. VAF
      VAF
      +4
      1 November 2012 22: 08
      Quote: patriot2
      And yet, before a minister or officer, if something like this happened to him


      So this is the case in any civilized state, and not only with the military, but also with government officials, God forbid at least some kind of rumor, not to mention the facts, but we have ..... azm.zm the king !! ! wassat

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