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According to the intelligence of the NM of the LPR, von der Leyen's statement about heavy losses led to a moral decline in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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According to the intelligence of the NM of the LPR, von der Leyen's statement about heavy losses led to a moral decline in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

The statement of the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, about the hundred thousand losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, although it was promptly erased by American censorship, nevertheless played its role. As it turned out, information about more or less real losses also reached the rank and file of the Ukrainian army, who negatively perceived this information. Andrey Marochko, an officer of the NM LPR, writes about this.


According to intelligence, the scandal around the data on the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, voiced by von der Leyen, had a negative impact on the morale and psychological state of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. If earlier in Kyiv they blamed everything on Russian propaganda, allegedly trying to deceive the "valiant" Ukrainian army with their stories about "big losses", then after the speech of the representative of the EU authorities, many eyes were opened. And let the Americans hit the same von der Leyen on the hat for voicing more or less real numbers, information about 100 thousand killed and wounded has already gone.

As Marochko writes in his TG channel, the number of sabotages has increased in recent days, the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine refuse to obey the orders of the command, especially regarding sending them to the front line, new cases of hazing have been noted. The use of alcohol and narcotic substances has sharply increased. It's all at the front. Tensions are also growing in the rear, the statements coming from Zelensky's office no longer reassure the people. Relatives of servicemen are already openly demanding that the authorities provide information about the real state of affairs in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The facts of the storming of military enlistment offices in order to find out something about relatives who disappeared at the front were noted.

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian authorities continue to lie, claiming "very small" losses. Podolyak, adviser to Zelensky’s office, said the day before that the losses of the Ukrainian army since the start of the Russian special operation allegedly do not exceed 13 servicemen, most of whom were injured. That's just where the numerous cemeteries with buried vushniks came from, no one in Kyiv intends to explain. According to experts, a large number of "XNUMX" and "XNUMX" may lead to the fact that at some point the army will "fall", despite the efforts made by Kyiv to hide the real situation.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 2 December 2022 11: 04
    +21
    And you can’t have more videos and photos for the West about the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They are well aware that not only Ukrainians are dead there, but also their mercenaries.
    1. fighter angel
      fighter angel 2 December 2022 11: 09
      +18
      It is possible and necessary. But for some reason, we have a hard time with this. They underestimate the possibilities of psychological warfare.
    2. credo
      credo 2 December 2022 11: 14
      +11
      Can our propagandists from the Defense Ministry resume and increase the number of shells with visual information about the places of burial of soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the statement of von der Lein, and in the end give a collage of well-fed faces of the "elite" of Ukraine, together with Zelensky, ending with the question "You kill children for their sake, old people, women and men of Donbass?
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 2 December 2022 11: 24
        +4
        Quote: credo
        to our propagandists from the Moscow Region

        Propaganda is the engine of trade! Oh, I wanted to say the morale of the fighters and civilians ....
    3. Lars971a
      Lars971a 2 December 2022 11: 27
      +7
      propaganda should come first
    4. Pablo Blade
      Pablo Blade 2 December 2022 11: 32
      +9
      Poland recognized 1200 of its dead.
      If we assume that the arrestovich is telling the truth, then every tenth dead is a Polish mercenary. It is obvious that they are clearly not 10%, but much less. And I believe that the figure of 100 is more or less objective
      1. Hypertension
        Hypertension 2 December 2022 13: 19
        +2
        Quote from Pablo Blade
        Poland recognized 1200 of its dead.

        Poland did not recognize it, but it was written about in the Polish pro-Russian media. The fisherman will not let you lie.
        1. Skobaristan
          Skobaristan 2 December 2022 21: 21
          +2
          Pro-Russian media in Poland? Yes, you are, really. And what is this edition called?
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 3 December 2022 10: 55
            0
            Quote: Skobaristan
            Yes, you are, really. And what is this edition called?

            It was not the Polish media, but the pro-Russian media that began to talk about Poland's losses in the NVO in Ukraine (Niezalezny Dziennik Polityczny) in Polish. The same publication published a recently published article about Poland's plans to return Ukrainian lands.
            1. Skobaristan
              Skobaristan 3 December 2022 11: 44
              0
              Where is this quote from? And who determines the pro-Russian media or not?
              1. Hypertension
                Hypertension 3 December 2022 11: 55
                0
                Quote from Rybar. Read, follow the links where the analysis of this media is indicated in two parts.
                https://t.me/rybar/41554
                1. Skobaristan
                  Skobaristan 3 December 2022 12: 06
                  0
                  And that is, the blogger called the publication pro-Russian. Well, ok.
                  1. Hypertension
                    Hypertension 3 December 2022 12: 32
                    0
                    And even without a blogger, it is clear that the publication is not pro-Polish. Just read the headlines. And nowhere, in the original, except for this, the media do not write about 1.2 thousand Poles.
                    https://dziennik-polityczny.com/2022/11/23/niechlubny-koniec-najemnicy-ktorzy-zgineli-na-ukrainie-zostana-pochowani-w-amerykanskich-grobach/
                    1. Skobaristan
                      Skobaristan 4 December 2022 19: 38
                      0
                      So maybe it's just a Russian edition in Polish? And not pro-Russian in Poland?
                      1. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 4 December 2022 20: 34
                        0
                        The media, referring to Niezależny Dziennik Polityczny, write that this is a Polish publication. For example:
                        https://www.mk.ru/politics/2022/11/23/ndp-ukraina-sovershila-dve-oshibki-v-otnosheniyakh-s-polshey.html
      2. Dmitry Tsarevich
        Dmitry Tsarevich 4 December 2022 13: 15
        0
        I think more than 100000, but I can’t substantiate it with anything, a subjective analysis.
    5. oleg-nekrasov-19
      oleg-nekrasov-19 2 December 2022 11: 34
      +6
      Recently I watched a video in one of the telegram channels, where the doctors of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were collecting corpses, and so in one of the M113 vehicles there were about 12 troops (the author of the video said so), but they found only two tibia bones and one hip joint. Yesterday I watched a video with a broken Kraken column (Kupyansk direction) on the Dambiev telegram channel, so the equipment was burned there, but there were no corpses, but they were not taken out, because there was nothing to take out.
    6. Peter1First
      Peter1First 2 December 2022 11: 42
      +10
      But I would come from the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers of Ukraine! There have already counted 320 thousand missing! If their data is published officially!
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 2 December 2022 11: 55
        -1
        we also do not know about our losses. So, it makes no sense to blame the enemy. everyone is hiding.
        1. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 2 December 2022 16: 31
          +1
          Yeah - it's bad for airfields with "meaning" ... Full span ...
    7. YOUR
      YOUR 2 December 2022 13: 05
      0
      Those who need to know. Look how alarmed they were when the naglychanin was sentenced to death. They know.
    8. Arkady007
      Arkady007 2 December 2022 21: 48
      +1
      There are such things called AgitAB. Why not use them or something like that?
      Water wears away the stone. Necessary.
  2. dmi.pris1
    dmi.pris1 2 December 2022 11: 04
    -4
    Officer Marochko writes .... Not that you can not read further, but there is no talk of any decline there. They defend fiercely, counterattack. and wound around. And Marochko is a branch of the Konashevk
    1. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 2 December 2022 11: 13
      +11
      One might think that those on the front lines are unaware of their losses. It is in Kyiv that the population can hang noodles, but their fighters know everything very well, they can judge the total losses by the losses in their units. And to say that the words of Aunt von Der Leyen led to a moral decline in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is another "Konashenko" nonsense.
      1. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 2 December 2022 11: 35
        +5
        led to moral decline in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
        The violent ones will be cured with green paint, the rest will go further to the slaughter, they may be lucky on the front line, but there is no longer a place according to the tribunal.
      2. your1970
        your1970 2 December 2022 11: 53
        +4
        Quote: Vladimir M
        One might think that those on the front lines are unaware of their losses. It is in Kyiv that the population can hang noodles, but their fighters know everything very well, they can judge the total losses by the losses in their units

        A distant relative of grandfathers was at the front near Murmansk throughout the war. Grandfather - from the May training camp to the Kursk Bulge.
        So, when my grandfather came from the front, as he said, he was surprised how even the peasants remained in the village. The relative was surprised, where did all the peasants go ???
        6400 were called from the village - 5900 died
        So not all losses are always visible at the front.
        1. PPD
          PPD 3 December 2022 11: 44
          0
          The relative was surprised, where did all the men go ??? they had a loss of 1 person in 2-3 days.

          And where was that mysterious part? This is first.
          10 people in 20 days.
          For 3 months - minus a platoon.
          Well, it's almost imperceptible.
          1. your1970
            your1970 3 December 2022 13: 34
            +1
            Quote: PPD
            And where was that mysterious part? This is first.

            Quote: your1970
            was at the front Murmansk all war

            Read carefully, don't you?

            Quote: PPD
            For 3 months - minus a platoon.
            Well, it's almost imperceptible.

            Grandfather artilleryman - heavy howitzer, artillery spotter
            Howitzers are not advanced, they are at least several kilometers - in 1941 their part was replenished 2 times. By 1942, 20 people remained from the regiment that started the war. Total...
            NOT infantry, practically the rear, gunners, truckers.
            In the infantry, 1-2-5 people died daily - without attacks, just under mortar and shelling, from bombing and machine guns

            Quote: your1970
            Called from the village 6400 - died 5900


            10 million dead KA / 1418 = 7000 people per day on average.
            8.7 dead according to Krivosheev / 1418 = 6135 per day
            1. Dmitry Tsarevich
              Dmitry Tsarevich 4 December 2022 13: 21
              0
              Let us remember once again all the Heroes, known and unknown, who fell in the fight against fascism.
  3. private person
    private person 2 December 2022 11: 06
    +7
    According to the intelligence of the NM of the LPR, von der Leyen's statement about heavy losses led to a moral decline in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    According to intelligence data, back in late spring - early summer, the morale of the VSU was at zero. As a result, they overslept the offensive and left Kherson and quite a few settlements. And now we are freeing them again, or rather what is left of them.
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 2 December 2022 12: 36
      +2
      At the beginning of the summer, morale was at a low ebb. As a result, they overslept the offensive and left Kherson and quite a few settlements.

      a drop in morale in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is treated with prison terms and executions. In addition, the APU is not a homogeneous structure. There are combat, motivated units. And there are parts, 90% consisting of mobilized. The former are used in the offensive, the latter are even capable of defense only due to their numbers.
      Now let's release them again.

      do you personally release?
      1. private person
        private person 2 December 2022 13: 09
        -5
        a drop in morale in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is treated with prison terms and executions.

        Well, Konoshenko told us this, and they wrote to him what to say. And the prisoners also say this, but then in captivity and in the wild they are all heroes.
      2. Two diplomas
        Two diplomas 2 December 2022 14: 05
        +2
        Not tired of repeating bullshit? Since 2015, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are Nazis, and without exception. The so-called mobilized are dill grown by the Nazi authorities. With motivation there, it’s normal, as well as with total hatred for everything Russian. And only our guys on the front end continue to perceive the spreading cranberries about the "fraternal" people and the "mobilized vushniks."
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 5 December 2022 05: 10
          +1
          Not tired of repeating bullshit? Since 2015, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are Nazis, and without exception.

          when you wipe your snot and start to thoughtfully read what they write here, you will understand that I did not divide the Armed Forces of Ukraine according to the principle "Nazis are not Nazis." I wrote that there are motivated, that is, convinced, fighting purposefully and having a relatively high morale. And there is a dull, unmotivated swamp. Which will go into battle only thanks to kicks in the ass. And which is happy to give up at the first opportunity.
          If you are crowing here that they say that the Vushniks are all as one burning with the desire to go into battle in order to kill Russians, then it remains for me to state the fact that for two diplomas you are amazingly stupid.
          And only our guys on the front end continue to perceive the spreading cranberries about the "fraternal" people and the "mobilized vushniks."

          Well, it’s clear - the farther another clerk like you is from the front, the more bloodthirsty his comments are. Well, take the machine and implement your idea. Why are you teaching fighters on the front line from the couch?
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 December 2022 11: 09
    +4
    negatively affected the morale and psychological state of the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    I would like to believe in it. But those on the front line themselves perfectly see their losses and recognize them as high, alcohol and drugs were actively used in the war zone before, cases of desertion were also not isolated. Another thing is that the figures voiced by Ursula could have a destabilizing effect on the mothers and wives of soldiers, who had previously been guided by the figures of the Ukrainian media, although they did not really believe them.
  5. Boniface
    Boniface 2 December 2022 11: 11
    +13
    And then Svinovony do not read the public!
    and do not see such photos



    These photos are littered with Svidomo Internet!

    Let them sit in horror!
    1. Clear
      Clear 2 December 2022 11: 49
      +8
      Quote: Boniface
      These photos are littered with Svidomo Internet!

      Let them sit in horror!

      Yes!
      But Kyiv went even further. Videos with Ukrainian cemeteries began to appear on the network. The video and photos show that literally entire fields are littered with fresh graves and a Ukrainian flag is flying over each. All of these are soldiers who died in Ukraine.

      Official Kyiv did not like this and the Office of the President ordered to remove these forests from Ukrainian flags. Since it sows even greater dismorality among the population. And why are you petty? Demolish the crosses already and level the mounds of graves with the ground. Then there will definitely be no dysmorality.
      1. private person
        private person 2 December 2022 13: 16
        -5
        Videos with Ukrainian cemeteries began to appear on the network.

        Well, it's like with padded equipment, you can photograph the same object from different sides and angles, giving it a massive character.
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 2 December 2022 14: 04
        0
        I hope Russia will then demolish and pour concrete.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 2 December 2022 11: 13
    +9
    According to the intelligence of the NM of the LPR, von der Leyen's statement about heavy losses led to a moral decline in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    . Guys, let's look at everything objectively.
    They sho, did not know that they were sent there to be buried ???
    No matter how hard the authorities try, they have enough, in public, revelations, confessions and complaints that they, there, end very quickly ... and whoever doesn’t end there, they also rake at home not the most pleasant.
    They still go and fight.
    That is, events, circumstances have already crossed the line ... in general, it’s understandable, you shouldn’t hope that they will run and just give up, for now, at least.
    1. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 2 December 2022 11: 31
      +1
      That's the question - why do they still go and fight. So they have motivation and it's not money. It turns out that somewhere we are not finalizing. But in the 14-15 years they ran ahead of their cry.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 December 2022 11: 59
        +1
        There is motivation ... imaginary, real, most likely everything is in one heap, the ball is intertwined.
        Why so, you can come up with a bunch of versions, but this does not negate the main thing, it works, at this stage of time.
        What will happen next, we'll see.
      2. Kronos
        Kronos 2 December 2022 12: 06
        +2
        The defending side is always more motivated.
      3. ratoborets
        ratoborets 2 December 2022 12: 13
        +4
        Goebbels in his time understood perfectly the importance of propaganda.
        Since then, the importance and possibilities of propaganda have increased many times over. For the last 8 years, Ukrainians have been intensively brainwashed with hatred for Russians, Russians (Chechens, Buryats, Tuvans, etc.), residents of Donbass. And before that, since 1991, anti-Russia propaganda has been going on - hatred for Russia. So there is nothing to be surprised, for them the Russians are really "orcs" in their brainwashed and they are at war with Mordor.
      4. laws70
        laws70 2 December 2022 13: 48
        -1
        So they have motivation and it's not money.

        They have motivators. In the face of Polish mercenaries and militants of the National Battalion behind their backs.
    2. Peter1First
      Peter1First 2 December 2022 11: 57
      +5
      There is still a point in reporting to the broad masses of the level of losses, and not a small one! Firstly, this is despondency in the troops, the demoralization of those who are zombified by official propaganda - after all, there is a difference between "more than 100 thousand" and "13 thousand" - so the officials are lying 10 times? Secondly, an even greater outflow from the country of potential mobilized, again from those who believed the official tales of the authorities! Thirdly, opposition to those who give out subpoenas - they were often beaten before when trying to catch this or that peasant, but now they may start shooting! Fourth, the mothers of the missing will raise a howl against the war! Fifthly, this is, of course, desertion from the standpoint of those who are smarter ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 December 2022 12: 05
        +1
        There is always a sense in the truth, although there are enough of those who are against and very strongly.
        No one has yet been able to build something reliable on lies, although they try again and again.
      2. Vladimir M
        Vladimir M 2 December 2022 12: 37
        0
        They do not have despondency in the troops and there is no desertion, at least the same as it was in 14-15 years. But at that time there was no Russian regular army on the territory of Ukraine, only the "north wind" and separate divisions of the RA. They don’t let men out of Ukraine, you won’t run away much, who could and wanted to leave the country a long time ago.
  7. GIS
    GIS 2 December 2022 11: 13
    +5
    eeeh, it would not hurt to scatter leaflets around Ukrainian cities. with numbers ... and maybe with the names of identified
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 2 December 2022 11: 15
    +5
    Normally, they were brainwashed there. Every fighter there has a mother, father, wife, and in every city there is a cemetery. Doesn’t it catch your eye that it has doubled?
  9. Tagan
    Tagan 2 December 2022 11: 16
    +4
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Officer Marochko writes .... Not that you can not read further, but there is no talk of any decline there. They defend fiercely, counterattack. and wound around. And Marochko is a branch of the Konashevk

    Doesn't go? But there are numerous videos with collective appeals to the command. And they attack and run. And surrender as well. It’s definitely not necessary to talk about some kind of monolith there.
  10. Roust
    Roust 2 December 2022 11: 17
    -1
    The last ruin-e-ts, where are you-yy ..? ... I wonder who Ukrainian women will give birth to later?
  11. digger
    digger 2 December 2022 11: 19
    +6
    They don’t know the real losses yet ... even this linen is lying as it breathes ... there the losses are already approaching 400 thousand (along with the wounded) ... and whoever thinks that this is a lie, then you first find out how many waves of mobilization have been carried out and now what categories of people are enough for the last ... and these are disabled people and women, and this is not from meager losses.
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 2 December 2022 11: 53
      +2
      Well, yes, that's right, the Germans ran at Goebbels even when ours had already stormed Berlin. And to protect him rowed everyone from the elderly (Volkssturm), to children (Hitler Youth). So, of course, dill has "no" losses ... Yeah!
    2. Al manah
      Al manah 2 December 2022 13: 00
      -2
      Yes, they don’t seem to show Ukrainian women’s battalions on the front line ... Or are they invisible?
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 2 December 2022 21: 19
        -1
        Well you give. Detachments of sexual slaves during the capture. Have they already sent them?
    3. private person
      private person 2 December 2022 13: 22
      -1
      first find out how many waves of mobilization were carried out

      You can spend them as much as you like, but how many really got the question. In our country, even when a partial mobilization was announced, how many faded in the near abroad and ran around the expanses of Russia.
  12. Horon
    Horon 2 December 2022 11: 24
    +2
    According to experts, a large number of "XNUMX" and "XNUMX" may lead to the fact that at some point the army will "fall", despite the efforts made by Kyiv to hide the real situation.

    Hurry up already, but somehow the role of genocides of the inhabitants of Ukraine, which the West has chosen for us, does not appeal to us. Without a protest-minded population, we will have to fight to the last Ukrainian, and we only need the carcasses of those who build a fence between us, destroying our common history and culture.
    Ps But for some reason, hopes for this are fading faster than a protest movement appears on dill.
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 2 December 2022 21: 11
      0
      Last week, Ramzan Kadyrov lamented that there are a huge number of mercenaries on the territory of Ukraine, and the West continues to supply weapons to Kyiv, but Russia reacts to this with extreme restraint. Therefore, the head of Chechnya proposed to solve the problem with Ukrainian nationalists with the help of tactical nuclear weapons.
      Source: https://versia.ru/k-chemu-privedyot-primenenie-takticheskogo-yadernogo-oruzhiya
      Shut the mouth of these humanitarians. In Yugoslavia, the United States worked and easily. They fucked the UN and did it. No need to shout about the environment. It will be worse if this massacre is delayed for 5-8 years.
      What do you think? Decides the opinion of the hundredth monkey so to speak. And the hand will reach for the start.
      1. Horon
        Horon 2 December 2022 22: 24
        0
        Tactical nuclear weapons will not give a serious advantage in military terms, but may give rise to nuclear terrorist attacks by the Armed Forces.
        Yes, and what to beat? Over bridges? The army is dispersed and the effect will not be so significant. For the West, it will be much more painful to build up nuclear weapons and start new tests somewhere on the Kola Peninsula, closer to countries wishing to join NATO. And then rumors began to circulate in the West (I suspect that our non-brothers became their source) that our nuclear charges are already very old and are not capable of exploding. And then they begin to believe it.
        1. Mouse
          Mouse 2 December 2022 23: 25
          +1
          About 31 cluster munitions with uranium-238 were first used by NATO 20 years ago during the massive bombing of military facilities in southern Serbia, the main targets of the alliance then were the air escort radar. And no one said a word against it. And here you are talking about the effects. It would be enough for a professional army of contract soldiers provided with combat power of nuclear charges. And you? You are afraid to live and fight on your own land. How did they also chop off your head, but there were also brains. Only the brain remained in the spine. But he is shy and cowardly. An operational high-power nuclear charge to the capital is enough and that's it. Or almost everything.
          Yes, learn from the Americans. You still go under the table in comparison with these thugs.
          1. Horon
            Horon 3 December 2022 13: 25
            0
            Some 31 uranium-238 cluster munitions were first used by NATO 20 years ago

            These are not nuclear charges, what ours are now using on dill is no less effective, but a little less toxic. The Americans shit far from their borders, and you offer to shit at home.
            Yes, learn from the Americans. You still go under the table in comparison with these thugs.

            Russians have always been considered an evil people, but yes, they tried not to stoop to the cruelty of others. Cruelty is for the weak.
  13. Deon59
    Deon59 2 December 2022 11: 26
    -6
    About 24 people died in North Ossetia from February 3 to November 140. And how many throughout Russia?
    1. Clear
      Clear 2 December 2022 11: 54
      +2
      Quote from Deon59
      About 24 people died in North Ossetia from February 3 to November 140. And how many throughout Russia?

      Even according to your calculations, if you multiply 140 by 89 (subjects of Russia), it turns out = 12.460.
    2. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 2 December 2022 11: 57
      +2
      And in Alabama they lynch blacks ... laughing
      What is your comment about Ossetia? We have people dying every day, the reasons are different from accidents to heart attacks. And what of that? Where is it happening differently?
    3. Peter1First
      Peter1First 2 December 2022 12: 15
      +1
      And you extrapolate from the population of the North. Ossetia 700 thousand for the population of all of Russia - get about 30 thousand. A lot? Yes, but much less than the enemy!
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  15. gromit
    gromit 2 December 2022 11: 28
    -8
    It is better not to post such articles.
    You read about Ukrainian liars and immediately imagine your own.

    Something Ugledar disappeared from the news.
  16. Sibguest
    Sibguest 2 December 2022 11: 28
    +5
    According to volunteer communities in the temporarily occupied South Russian territories (country-404):
    - more than 230 dead and seriously injured (cripples)
    - 320 missing.
    Data on the dead were collected according to official data from all hospitals, hospitals, mrgs, funeral homes.
    1. Two diplomas
      Two diplomas 2 December 2022 14: 11
      0
      Now this is closer to the truth. Someone badly imagines the work of Russian artillery, so they write all sorts of nonsense about 100 thousand.
  17. Damir Shamaev
    Damir Shamaev 2 December 2022 11: 29
    +4
    100 thousand killed and wounded


    She clearly said has been killed. That is, more than 100 thousand military officers killed (I don’t know what kind of officers or soldiers), 20 thousand civilians killed
  18. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 2 December 2022 11: 39
    +1
    Banderlogs were zombified, zombified and will be zombified. The truth will be known in the next world.
  19. Ratibor_A
    Ratibor_A 2 December 2022 11: 44
    -4
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Officer Marochko writes .... Not that you can not read further, but there is no talk of any decline there. They defend fiercely, counterattack. and wound around. And Marochko is a branch of the Konashevk

    Are you writing from the trenches of the Ukronazis?
    Or should everyone just check into your fictions? Why?
  20. iouris
    iouris 2 December 2022 11: 49
    +2
    Konoshenkov fights and fights every day - no way. And then one word Frau Vonderleien and that's it! Wow how it works...
  21. Damir Shamaev
    Damir Shamaev 2 December 2022 12: 04
    0
    Clearly, we are waiting, tomorrow we must surrender from fear
  22. Chernorechye
    Chernorechye 2 December 2022 12: 06
    +1
    No one can clearly explain in terms of losses what is on our side and what is on the Ukrainian side. Cemeteries with military burials are growing not only in Ukraine. The war is positional, as in the Second World War, hence the huge losses on both sides. You look at all this and go nuts, one part of the USSR is at war with another. The dream of the small Brits and ovs came true even more productively than they dreamed. Their dreams come true with amazing clarity, and there's nothing we could ever do about it. I'm not talking about the methodical collapse of the army, the dismissal of hundreds of thousands of officers and the reduction of military schools during the "reforms". I personally saw it. And now we see that their line is correct and successful, while ours, with constant looking back and indistinct deals and agreements, is insignificant. When there will be a turning point in the minds of those in power, it is not clear, the main thing is that it would not be too late.
    1. cat hippopotamus
      cat hippopotamus 2 December 2022 22: 23
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      "Cemeteries with military burials are growing not only in Ukraine"
      War takes its harvest always from both sides. However, this is already Western analysts admit that Russia's losses are many times less. According to repeated statements from our sources, on average, we lose eight times less. It turns out that our losses of 2-hundredths do not even reach 20 thousand people. Although this figure is not encouraging, well, in peacetime we lose up to 30 thousand km in road accidents.
      The fact that we are not officially voicing the number of losses now, I think this is right. When we finish everything, then it will be possible to announce at what price everything cost us.
  23. Corrosion inhibitor
    Corrosion inhibitor 2 December 2022 12: 13
    -1
    Meanwhile, the Ukrainian authorities continue to lie, claiming "very small" losses.

    Be more modest "comrade" the author of the article. Our authorities lie no less.
    If you don't believe me, ask them about our losses, and your distrust will immediately end.
  24. Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 December 2022 12: 13
    0
    "... The losses of the Ukrainian army since the beginning of the Russian special operation allegedly do not exceed 13 thousand military personnel, most of whom were injured." (c) And don't go to the fortuneteller, so light injuries, almost scratches. sad Svidomo fool, they believe. Completely broke.
  25. Bomb
    Bomb 2 December 2022 12: 19
    -1
    von der Leyen's statement about heavy losses led to a moral decline in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    and along the road the dead with braids stand ....... and silence
  26. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 2 December 2022 12: 32
    0
    Well, tell me, without this clown, they didn’t know that the losses were hundreds of thousands?
    1. laws70
      laws70 2 December 2022 13: 54
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      Well, tell me, without this clown, they didn’t know that the losses were hundreds of thousands?

      Zelensky said 10 thousand, so 10 thousand. Dot. He won't lie..
  27. Jsem_CZEKO68
    Jsem_CZEKO68 2 December 2022 12: 43
    +1
    Vím, že i na Ukrajině jsou dobří lidé a určitě je jich více, než Banderovců. Ideal bylo, kdyby lidé na Ukrajině sami svrhli Banderuv režim, ale je mě jasné, že ve fašismu je to moc těžké.
  28. RED_ICE
    RED_ICE 2 December 2022 12: 48
    -2
    Again this trick is fooling us! Constantly leaking some information. But as usual, there is no evidence and facts, and this does not make it easier for our fighters.
  29. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 2 December 2022 12: 59
    -1
    The devilish German nun had to refuse. Today in Zaporozhye an important object collapsed and caught fire.
  30. Mint Gingerbread
    Mint Gingerbread 2 December 2022 13: 01
    0
    There is nothing better than leaflets. Paper with text cannot be turned off and sanctions imposed. Shoot leaflets the same Kyiv. Let them read and think.
    1. laws70
      laws70 2 December 2022 13: 55
      0
      Let them read and think.

      Already thought up: you're lying, damn Muscovites!
  31. VladimirNET
    VladimirNET 2 December 2022 14: 16
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    Quote: private person
    According to intelligence data, back in late spring - early summer, the morale of the VSU was at zero.

    No need to give out - wishful thinking: the constant retreats of the Russian Federation (albeit temporary) - give reason to say otherwise. And their propaganda is 100% using it.

    You can't immediately lose the war - if you are constantly advancing ... Therefore, it makes no sense to surrender "recently" to the advancing.
    PS. It has already been written many times that many of them are sure that they are defeating Russia (just look at the map).
  32. Romanenko
    Romanenko 2 December 2022 14: 43
    0
    So, a fascist believes a fascist at a word, although the phrase "over 100 ..." hides half as many more in the word ABOVE
  33. orionvitt
    orionvitt 2 December 2022 15: 12
    0
    information about more or less real losses reached the rank and file of the Ukrainian army, who negatively perceived this information
    You might think that the rank and file does not see anything, being inside the structure, so to speak. And losses, and rotations, and flows of the wounded and internal rumors. Well, there are ordinary people there, feeding from the TV, or in cozy public places. But in the army they see perfectly well and know what is happening.
  34. VladMirU
    VladMirU 2 December 2022 15: 32
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    Quote: Vladimir M
    And to say that the words of Aunt von Der Leyen led to a moral decline in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is another "Konashenko" nonsense.

    I would say - "stupidity". I mean, they take us for stupid. And we, like, should believe them. If you're lying, then know how to do it "subtly" so that they would believe. They think that since there are two big stars, it will do for the truth ........ Aha ..... Right now! A liar can be counted by the eyes.
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 2 December 2022 21: 06
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      They do not seem to know how to manage effectively and fight too. My God, who rules our people? We are beggars.
      1. Skobaristan
        Skobaristan 2 December 2022 21: 28
        0
        Don't be too upset, Russia can.
        1. Mouse
          Mouse 2 December 2022 23: 19
          0
          Do you think you won't be afraid? After all, everything is simple - there are effective weapons and only regular military men could handle it. Kadyrov correctly said - he is a warrior and not a lahar.
          1. Skobaristan
            Skobaristan 4 December 2022 19: 42
            -1
            I understand that Russian is not your native language.
  35. Mouse
    Mouse 2 December 2022 21: 04
    0
    About 31 thousand cluster munitions with uranium-238 were first used by NATO 20 years ago during the massive bombing of military facilities in southern Serbia, RIA Novosti, 21.03.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX.
    It seems the Americans are not afraid of anything. And you ? You are demoralized!!
  36. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 2 December 2022 21: 43
    0
    Let them lose heart, they all are destined to get into this statistics and increase the announced figure by at least the same amount.
  37. Nord11
    Nord11 2 December 2022 22: 57
    +1
    Well, it is unlikely that for the Armed Forces of Ukraine the loss figure was a big revelation and a blow, because the soldier's rumor is more truthful than all the officialdom and spreads faster ..
  38. ZnaxarJorge
    ZnaxarJorge 3 December 2022 00: 11
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    Both sides lie. Ukrainians lie better and more often, in a Western way. The Konashenkovs lie badly and rarely, they are more silent. Killed tens of thousands of both ours and the Bandrovites. 3 dead ukra to one of our dead. Even if only 2 to 1 it shatters their myth of NATO-Bandera superiority. And the yellow-blue propagandists hide this bitter truth with all their might.
  39. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 3 December 2022 03: 16
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    It's all gross...!!! Okay, ghouls from geyropy, they’re just glad of such a quantity, ours don’t stop what they’re cracking, they’ve completely gone wild !!!
  40. Mouse
    Mouse 3 December 2022 14: 02
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    Quote: Horon
    Some 31 uranium-238 cluster munitions were first used by NATO 20 years ago

    These are not nuclear charges, what ours are now using on dill is no less effective, but a little less toxic. The Americans shit far from their borders, and you offer to shit at home.
    Yes, learn from the Americans. You still go under the table in comparison with these thugs.

    Russians have always been considered an evil people, but yes, they tried not to stoop to the cruelty of others. Cruelty is for the weak.

    Oh well, you're already making excuses. Eight years to pull the rubber in the Donbas is not cruelty? You love to torment longer, and do you consider this your kindness? If you do not use a stronger club, then with such views you will torment the Slavic race for five years. And do not care that, on the one hand, the zombified enchanted Slavic-Ukrainians, stupefied by fascism, and on the other, the Slavic-Russians. Do you think it's all beautiful? Or maybe to shake so that the cattle do not suffer? Well, yes - you are a good lion. You will gnaw on a dead victim and drink blood from it. Very kind - you will torment for a very long time. Both their own and others. That's what is not evil.
    And imagine a protracted conflict in the same Serbia since 1999 for 20 years .. Or 10 .. Peacefully so with machine guns slowly to suffer. Charming you are just a warrior as I see it.
    All in the realities of Donbass. They are also not tired in 8 years. They need to add another 8 years of war.
    Some kind of chimera flies directly above you and does not allow you to think sensibly. Do you know what they do with a wounded horse? For good when they act and not as you think.
    So this Jew, apparently not from good cowards, but from brave ones, if he brewed porridge in a steep way, seeing the painful burden of this war.
  41. Mouse
    Mouse 4 December 2022 23: 10
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    Quote: Skobaristan
    I understand that Russian is not your native language.

    Who are you? Because of people like you, prickly and evil, the Slavic-Russians cannot agree on peace. And you either flooded your brains with narco-ethyl or some other muck on your mind, because you just don’t live to your liking.
  42. Mouse
    Mouse 5 December 2022 03: 06
    0
    Quote: Skobaristan
    I understand that Russian is not your native language.

    So, I would like to add about the language, because you have an understanding as a device that they have when playing sex. Not alive - understanding. I want to warn you to touch on the topic of language, just in case, since this will affect your health, your heart is not iron - take care of yourself. So citizen "shuravi", here it does not matter at all whether you were born in a tribe living in the upper reaches of the river or in the middle, or where the river flows into the ocean. My speech is like this river and everyone feeds on water. And who spoils with words, excuse me, put treatment facilities on thoughts. Well, with those who got sick, in general, a special conversation came out and the ruin of those places is not at all a pity. Do you understand, shuravi? ))
  43. Two diplomas
    Two diplomas 5 December 2022 09: 49
    0
    Quote: Ka-52
    Well, it’s clear - the farther another clerk like you is from the front, the more bloodthirsty his comments are. Well, take the machine and implement your idea. Why are you teaching fighters on the front line from the couch?

    Will there be arguments? Or this nonsense about machine guns and other garbage. Firstly, I was already in the distant 95 when you walked under the table, and secondly, teaching and instructing on the true path is my direct professional duty. Since the mid-2000s, I have been knocking around all the thresholds about the fact that our leadership has screwed up the ideology in Ukraine, and here it is, the result is obvious, further collusion will lead to the spread of something similar throughout OUR country.