How Germany "suddenly" remembered its gold

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How Germany "suddenly" remembered its goldSometimes the most curious information pops up in the information space as if by chance, passing. And from this the whole picture begins to play completely different colors.

It happened with the German gold reserve.

Last week, the German authorities "suddenly" remembered that there was no gold reserve in Germany ... in Germany.

And for us this is an excellent reason to once again be convinced of, to say the least, the strangeness of the modern economic and political system.

Tell me, please, where do you keep your savings?

The answer may be different: on a bank account, in a bank, buried in the garden, in the form of cash in a vase on the shelf. One thing will be the same with any answer: you control your savings. You put the money in the bank, you buried the bank, in your apartment lies a stack of cash.

This is simple common sense.

But the German state (and many other countries of the world) act differently.

It stores its gold reserves in London, Washington and a little bit in Paris.

So supposedly safer.

Is it logical? In general, the logic in such reasoning was when the Soviet army was in the GDR. True, the Soviet Union never had any plans to capture the FRG, plans to launch a surprise strike FIRST. Therefore, the export of German gold reserves from Germany was not due to a real threat from our tanks, but just a desire to control the Germans themselves from the Anglo-Saxons.

But our army went home. The American and British armies remained in Germany. From whom they protect it today is a rhetorical question that always baffles the inhabitants of Germany.

From Poland, a member of NATO? From Holland, a member of NATO? From Luxembourg? Maybe from Denmark, a member of NATO?

Around Germany completely handshake Western democracies. Why on its territory are US troops?

And then, why the gold reserve does not return to German territory.

Germany is occupied, and its values ​​are taken out by the winners to themselves.

This is nothing new; all the winners at all times did so. Only earlier, these winners didn’t powder their brains by talking about freedom and human rights - that’s what makes the difference with today’s.

German parliament "suddenly" preoccupied with the problem of preserving the country's gold reserves.

“... The state reserve in precious metal is 3396 tons, being the second in the world. At the end of last year, its value amounted to 133 billion euros, and now as gold has risen in price it has grown to 143 billion. Relevant information has been submitted to the Bundestag Budget Committee, which was the first acquainted with the report of the Federal Court of Auditors on the country's gold reserves and places of their storage. ”

Please note: FIRST attended to. It turned out wonderful things.

“The Accounting Chamber pointed out significant shortcomings in the accounting for gold reserves. In her opinion, its regular inventory is necessary. And this is only possible in the vaults of the Bundesbank in Frankfurt am Main, where only less than a third of the stock is stored - 1036 tons. In foreign vaults, the owner is not allowed to own gold.. But just there is placed a large part of the gold of Germany.

Karl-Ludwig Thiele, board member of the Bundesbank, said that gold parts are in the USA, UK and France. In particular, it was confirmed for the first time that 1536 tons of gold, or 45% of the German stock, are hidden in the New York Fed issuing bank. Another 450 tons are in the British Central Bank in London and 374 tons in the National Bank in Paris. Americans and French do not seem to be charging for storage, and the British charge 0,035 pounds for each ingot and every day of storage. ”

The most cunning, as always, were our British friends. Not only was the gold taken from the Germans, they also charge for storage. Almost two decades later, as the last Soviet tank, from which German gold bars were allegedly hidden, left the territory of Germany.

Gold control returns gradually. First, Berlin wants to return control. After all, it turns out that “the Bundesbank or independent experts have never been allowed to check the German gold reserves located in foreign issuing banks“ for real compliance and weight ”. That is, control has never been. In Berlin, just ... they knew that there were so many tons of gold in London and New York.

German parliamentarians are concerned about this. Can I refuse to check them? The Bundesbank, that is, the German Central Bank, which is independent of the state, previously refused to check anything. Indeed, why control the country's gold reserves? How can the British, Americans and French deceive? They are all democrats and completely friends.

But now the German parliamentarians insist. And since in the conditions of the Fed or the Bank of England it is impossible to melt ingots inside their vaults and see whether it is gold or gold-colored tungsten disc, German gold will begin to be exported to Germany for testing.

“To get along with the parliament and at least partially solve the dilemma that has arisen, Bundesbank decided to establish the required home verification. To this end, Thiele said, “over the next three years we will be bringing tons of gold to Germany from New York for 50 every year.” Then the Bundesbank will be able to check and melt the ingots according to the standard adopted in wholesale trade - size, weight and sample. In addition, parliamentarians are promised that the Bundesbank will continue negotiations on their rights of control on the ground in New York, Paris and London. ”

“In the next three years, the Central Bank of Germany will transfer from New York to Frankfurt 150 tons of its gold reserves. This will not only allow him to increase the amount of the precious metal stationed in Germany, but will also enable the Bundesbank to inspect the bars physically. Whereas common practice suggests receipt of annual receipt from auditors from USA, UK and Francewhere most of German gold is stored is that it is safe and sound. ”

Pay attention to two facts:

1. That the opinion of state controllers from the Accounts Chamber and, it would seem, the state bankers from the Bundesbank is different. The Board of the Bundesbank believes that partners can be trusted overseas. The Court of Accounts, however, believes that control is more than appropriate, as it concerns the “high value of the gold reserves.”
2. As before, the employees of the Bundesbank checked the presence of gold in their country: "Obtaining an annual receipt from the auditors". This is how you would put your money on a shelf in your friend's apartment and would annually check their presence by a phone call. Is money in place? On the spot.

The difference in approach is subordination. The Court of Auditors defends the interests of Berlin and, under the pretext of checking, tries to start returning the gold reserves to Germany. The German Central Bank (Bundesbank) defends the interests of world bankers and tries to do everything to leave the gold under their control.

Why would you return all gold to Germany? Is it reasonable? Full But one cannot answer that finding Germany’s gold reserves abroad is insurance in case of an attempt to get the Germans out of control. Therefore, to this logical question, the head of the German Central Bank meets ornate:

“When asked why Germany should not return all of its gold reserves to home, Carl Ludwig Thiele replies that gold located inside the country cannot serve as an immediate guarantee for the purchase of foreign currency. “Take, for example, the key role that the US dollar plays as a global reserve currency. Gold, which is stored in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, in the event of a crisis, can be used as a pledge against the denomination of the dollar. Also, the liquidity of the pound sterling can be supported by the mortgage of the gold contained in the Bank of England, ”he says.

In general, the whole of this "suddenly" arisen concern of the German parliamentarians did not arise from scratch. In March, 2012, the German parliament decided to check do not German gold famously began to provide some transactions "partners from the Fed".

The struggle for sovereignty and the struggle for gold are surprisingly intertwined ...

I hope you already guessed where the gold reserves of most other countries are stored?
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  1. +60
    1 November 2012 16: 01
    On the territory of modern Germany there are places where not only the German soldier, policeman, firefighter, rescuer, but just a citizen didn’t set foot ... because the Yankees are there.
    The author is 100% right - Germany is still in the status of an "occupied" power.
    But Putin extended a helping hand to Merkel ...
    Well, sit in your own manure ...
    1. +30
      1 November 2012 16: 44
      I recall recently Venezuela exported its gold reserves from the United States
      1. +5
        1 November 2012 20: 49
        If Venezuela really was able to take out, then they are lucky, because Chavez is a stone's throw from the fact that he will be declared a dictator. Although he has already bought our weapons, it may cost ...
      2. +2
        1 November 2012 22: 11
        She didn’t take it out, but declared her desire to move it to the banks of China and Russia !!!
      3. scrack
        0
        1 November 2012 23: 35
        And Syria keeps all its gold reserves in Russia
      4. 0
        2 November 2012 09: 49
        Sith Lord,
        Additional Information. About three-quarters of the world's Fed gold reserves belong to Asian countries. On behalf of Mr. Suharno (Indonesia), representing the united private owners of Asia, attempts have begun to cash out the 1930's Fed gold bonds in huge amounts. Since November 2011, 3 lawsuits have already been filed with the US Courts (the Fed is like a private office).
        The storm begins.
    2. YARY
      +10
      1 November 2012 16: 50
      My question is, where is our stabilization fund?
      I read that he is, however, the same in a "self-democratic" liberalistic, tolerant country of the world. Not this way?
      1. +4
        1 November 2012 16: 57
        It is scattered from the USA to Russia both in gold and in securities and in currency.
        1. +18
          1 November 2012 17: 07
          Germans, you can forget about him ........ you will be sent it in dollar terms wassatunconditional surrender, she, with ... ka, such ....
        2. Kaa
          +31
          1 November 2012 17: 55
          Quote: Sith Lord
          It is scattered from the USA to Russia both in gold and in securities and in currency.
          But didn’t we remember the fate of RI gold? Until 1917, Russia's gold reserve was determined by an astronomical figure - 1337 tons. At the beginning of the 1921th century, no country in the world could even come close to such an indicator. According to the estimates of Kolchakovo Deputy Minister of Finance Ilya Novitsky, in 63 the Czech Republic, thanks to the entrepreneurial spirit of its soldiers and officers, enriched itself in the amount of 50 million 45,2 thousand Nikolaev gold rubles (today one Nikolaev gold ruble is equal to 200 US dollars). Many well-known Western political scientists and economists believe that the basis of today's well-being of Japan is not only the natural industriousness of the Japanese, but also some impetus received from outside. And they call such Russian impulse Russian precious metals. Yes, it was with 1914 tons of gold transported in 1927 by the tsarist government to the Land of the Rising Sun in order to purchase weapons for the war with Kaiser Germany, and its ascent to the Olympus of prosperity began. Tons of gold, on which all Japanese banks grew, reached the shores of an island country, but guns and guns were never received by our troops. Further more! During the Civil War, the White Guard generals, as if by conspiracy, without exception gave up their gold (!) To the Japanese. The Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation has documents proving that the Japanese actively used the gold deposits of white generals in commercial operations. They even know the profit they earned from such operations from 1945 to 1 - 93 billion yen annually. It was not possible to return the territories annexed by the Germans, but the influx of "Leninist" gold into Berlin was suspended, although 535 kg of gold sent there higher - 999 -th - the samples remained behind the cordon ...
          As a war trophy, this mountain of gold ended up in the cellars of the Paris Bank de France. France voluntarily assumed the role of guardian of our gold. This fact is reflected in the text of article 259 of the famous Treaty of Versailles of 1919, where it was recorded that “Romanov gold” was taken by France “for storage”. The refusal of France and Japan to return the loot during the Civil War in Russia is quite explainable: the interest that has accumulated over decades of using our gold, in accordance with the charter of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), should return to us tens of billions of dollars. Of course, France and Japan strongly oppose the recognition of our right to our own gold! In August 1986, Margaret Thatcher, then Prime Minister of Great Britain, announced that her country was rejecting claims for royal debts of Russia in the amount of 900 million pounds. Mikhail Gorbachev, having entered a state of inadequate euphoria, immediately answered with a generous gesture of a merchant who was walking in a tavern - “from our table to yours!” - signed a decree on the forgiveness of England 2 billion pounds, which she owed us in compensation for the damage caused by British troops during the occupation of the northwestern regions of Russia in 1918-1920. In the years 1914-1917, Russia transferred about 500 tons of pure gold to banks in New York, London and Paris as payment for weapons. As in the case of Japan, the contracts were not fulfilled, the tsarist generals did not receive a single cartridge. http://nvo.ng.ru/history/2011-03-11/12_gold.html
          1. +7
            1 November 2012 18: 39
            Kaa

            Thank you so thank you very interesting stuff !!!!
          2. go
            0
            2 November 2012 00: 43
            Russian as usual left in the cold. You have to be smarter guys. If they have the opportunity, then they will not pay the bills and will not give a damn about all the contracts. You have to be smarter.
            1. 0
              2 November 2012 07: 12
              We need to see who will be the next in fools.
              The loser pays.
            2. 0
              2 November 2012 23: 21
              Quote: go
              Russian as usual left in the cold

              Very soon we will ask for everything.
            3. +1
              3 November 2012 23: 27
              Well, where are these smart ??? Okay, the first EBNutny prize, the President of Russia drank more than he did public affairs (and even then they wrote about Russian real estate abroad, including tsarist and gold), but now the Pragmatic and smart president is in power and what ??? But nothing!
      2. +3
        1 November 2012 20: 53
        Quote: Ardent
        My question is, where is our stabilization fund?

        Our interest fund on 8-9 is made of gold (most likely in Russia, but in the basements of not our central bank).
        The rest - the "securities" of the European Union and the United States - this is already paid tribute that no one will ever pay. Total: ~ 900 tons of gold with us. All.
      3. 0
        2 November 2012 23: 20
        Quote: Ardent

        My question is, where is our stabilization fund?

        It is divided into two funds: the Reserve Fund and the National Welfare Fund.
        This was done to get some of the money out of tribute for one's own needs.
        You see for yourself where the money of the NWF goes: http://www1.minfin.ru/en/nationalwealthfund/statistics/balances/2011/
        where to the Russian Federation:
        http://www1.minfin.ru/ru/reservefund/statistics/balances/2011/

        An interesting role is played by Vnesheconombank, which in its function partially replaced the independent Bank of Russia.
    3. Kaa
      +12
      1 November 2012 18: 24
      Quote: submariner
      On the territory of modern Germany, there are places where the leg of not just a German soldier

      You are hinting. which is already time ... in the sense that the Bundeswehr’s boot is under the American buttocks. ANYWHERE! wassat
      1. +5
        1 November 2012 18: 41
        Kaa


        Yes, and the Germans understand this .... But will they be able to ask the Amers to do this? Will there be enough courage and strength?
        And where will their amers send? Which is quite likely ...
        1. Kaa
          +11
          1 November 2012 19: 09
          Quote: submariner
          Will there be enough courage and strength?

          May I help? Still, many have ... Slavic roots: “Modern Germans have whole classes of Slavic origin, adapted to the German language, surnames.
          These, in particular, include almost all German surnames ending in - “-itz” “-tz” (“-itz”), for example, Doenitz, Stolz, etc.
          In addition, many German surnames ending in “-ow” (“s”) are Slavic in origin. Here are examples of some of these names: Byulov, Virkhov, Dmitrov, Grabov, Gamov. These surnames can also probably include the surname of the last prime minister of the GDR, Hans Modrov.
          The Slavic ending "-ek" is in the names of Voycek, Wojtek, Vratsek.
          The ending "-ke" and "-cke" ("-ke") is found in the names of Hanke, Yeshke, Janka.
          On “-ski” (“-ski”) usually surnames of Polish origin end.
          As a result of immigration, about 200 - 000 Poles from the mid-300th century to the beginning of the 000th century in North Rhine-Westphalia and in Berlin, many residents have surnames like Orlovsky, Szymanski, Rudzinski, Kowalski, Podolski, Shymaniyets, Matutsek, Kozlovsky, etc. About 13% of the population today has a Polish surname.
          Many surnames ending in "-er" ("-er") by replacing the Slavic ending "ar" ("yar") with the German "er". For example, the Slavic surname Smolyar turned into Smoller. It should also be noted that when a large number of Slavs of modern East and North Germany were Germanized, Slavic surnames were often simply translated into German. For example, a person had the surname Kravts (Russian version - Kravtsov) translates as "tailor". But in the German environment, he received the surname Schneider (in German "tailor"), was Sokol, became Falk, etc. This was a massive way of Germanizing Slavic surnames.
          Almost relatives, unlike the nagloseks ... what
          1. 0
            1 November 2012 19: 18
            No thanks, I personally do not burn with desire ...
        2. Bashkaus
          +2
          1 November 2012 20: 02
          It’s just like in one famous movie:
          give us the gold! You are arrested! - U Do you have nuclear missiles? is there a pistol? - Then detained ... ... Well - for fishing!
    4. +5
      1 November 2012 18: 46
      I’m afraid when the Germans really have a need to get their gold in kind, they will either be shown empty shelves or there will be a bunch of reasons why this cannot be done. The need may arise in the case of one of the worst-case scenarios for the global economy, when the dollar, and after it the euro (the oiled one world) ceases to exist. Horseradish who will give German gold. The reasons will be different, but the essence is the same - when there is a round of gold and the only currency is gold, no one will part with it.
      1. Bashkaus
        +3
        1 November 2012 20: 08
        I imagine this picture: German representatives come, they are culturally escorted to the basement, behind them a multi-ton armored door closes. Against the background of a completely empty room, the German representatives begin to peel with all their strength with their feet on the ribs and head. Then they carefully pick up the jackets, brush off their bloody noses, open the multi-toned door, they go out and come to the table, which is bursting with various snacks. Champagne opens, poured into glasses and rises a toast for the success of the event)))
    5. +2
      2 November 2012 03: 18
      The phrase of one movie character is very suitable for the situation .... "Kashilek kashilek ... what a kashilek ... uh ... you have no methods against Kostya Saprykin" ... I would like, of course, that Kostik (the brazen Saxons) disappointed just like in the movie ...
  2. +6
    1 November 2012 16: 01
    Around Germany completely handshake Western democracies. Why on its territory are US troops?

    A ghost wanders through Europe ..... just not communism but Nazism, they’ve already dropped
    1. Melchakov
      +7
      1 November 2012 16: 03
      Quote: Vadivak
      once already missed

      They did not miss, this is their product out of control.
      1. +2
        1 November 2012 16: 15
        No, everything went and goes according to plan ....
        http://akademiagp.ru/v-b-pavlenko-bolshaya-igra-rotshildov-i-rokfellerov-na-svet
        uiv-teni /
        1. albanec
          0
          1 November 2012 16: 52
          This article was published already on topwar.ru. I read, thought a lot smile

      2. +3
        1 November 2012 16: 48
        Quote: Melchakov
        this is their product out of control.


        Yes, there is an excellent book "German Generals with and without Hitler"
    2. +6
      1 November 2012 17: 07
      Official World Gold Reserves


      1. +1
        2 November 2012 23: 24
        Sith Lord,
        More than once America came across on frauds with gold, when tungsten was miraculously found in gold bars. So who knows how much gold they really have.
        1. stroporez
          0
          8 November 2012 11: 27
          I read, sho in the old days, Schullers were "treated" by beating with tin candlesticks ........ it is being rented, the tradition was correct ................
    3. Kaa
      +3
      1 November 2012 17: 39
      Quote: Vadivak
      A ghost wanders through Europe ..... just not communism but Nazism

      A ghost wanders around the world ... globalism ... it would not have been missed!
  3. +17
    1 November 2012 16: 04
    And these people still seriously say that the USSR was an evil occupier!
    1. Sergh
      +14
      1 November 2012 16: 16
      PPC America, now a chain reaction will fly around the planet. The Germans obviously had something in mind, such things as simply counting grandmas were not done, everything was thought out in advance. By the way, Putin also fuses the securities of amers, they wrote about it and fused them quite a few. We will continue to see the carnival. Kashchei got to the duck, soon they will break the needle.
      1. Kaa
        +3
        1 November 2012 17: 43
        Quote: Sergh
        By the way, Putin also fuses the securities of amers,

        And he is not alone in this noble cause: "China got rid of US bonds
        17 February 2010 09: 55
        China has disposed of most of the US treasury bonds and is no longer its largest holder. Now Japan is the main owner of US debt. According to the press service of the US Treasury Department, China had “on hand” bonds worth about $ 755 billion, but gradually reduced its investment in the United States, reducing investment in the US economy. It was previously reported that the Chinese authorities began to insure themselves against global risks associated with the American currency. In particular, the government of the Celestial Empire instructed state funds and credit institutions to get rid of dollar assets, leaving only debt securities guaranteed by the US government. Http://www.dolgfactor.ru/economics/15928.smx
        1. Sergh
          +6
          1 November 2012 18: 13
          Quote: Kaa
          And he is not alone in this noble cause

          Hmm, yes, but the Japanese after Fukushima, the amers nevermind showed and not a single piece of paper cashed. Friends to the grave or something like that.
          1. Kaa
            +4
            1 November 2012 19: 14
            Quote: Sergh
            amer nevermind showed and not a single piece of cash

            Apparently, that there would be no second Fukushima (the law of pairing-Hiroshima-Nagasaki, Fukushima-???), the Japanese, on the contrary, are now the largest holders (or kept women?) Of dollar assets (or liabilities?) ... winked
      2. +5
        1 November 2012 19: 12
        Quote: Sergh
        Kashchei got to the duck, soon they will break the needle.

        Probably already groped an egg.
        1. Bashkaus
          +6
          1 November 2012 20: 15
          Ivanushka demolished the head of an immortal with a sword, the head itself jumped back into place and said with a scribe:
          Ha ha ha, my death is in the egg!
          Ivanushka with a half ki, I’m dying between my legs,
          he sat down in a characteristic pose, breaking into a falsetto, said "Yes, this is not a fool", and gave up his ghost)))
  4. I-16M
    +5
    1 November 2012 16: 04
    For that fought for it and ran.
    1. +5
      1 November 2012 19: 13
      Quote: I-16M
      For that fought for it and ran.

      And there they also crap one's pants ...
  5. rate
    +3
    1 November 2012 16: 05
    Quote: submariner
    Germany is still in the status of an "occupied" power.

    We, too.
    1. +14
      1 November 2012 17: 03
      Two-thirds of our country's gold and foreign exchange reserves are located in Moscow at the Central Bank of the Bank of Russia on Pravdy Street; not so bad.
      In the last years of Joseph Stalin's life, the annual gold production in the country exceeded 100 tons. After the death of the leader, there were more 2 051 tons of gold (This is more than the gold reserves of tsarist Russia.) - But this gives reason to think.
      1. +7
        1 November 2012 17: 22
        And there’s nothing to think about, after the death of Joseph Vissarionovich, this gold was paid for the American grain, after the economic reforms.
        1. +8
          1 November 2012 17: 28
          Paying gold for the dullness of the horsetail ....
  6. Samovar
    +4
    1 November 2012 16: 05
    Tell me, please, where do you keep your savings?

    A quote from a famous movie suggests itself: "Keep your money in a savings bank ... if, of course, you have it." laughing
  7. +9
    1 November 2012 16: 05
    And the Fritz has hidden a lot of gold ... almost three tons in total ... Of course, they smell what it smells like, and they try to return the little gold home ... So it’s calmer and more reliable.
    1. Melchakov
      +3
      1 November 2012 16: 06
      Quote: Trapper7
      almost three tons

      Amendment, 3000 tons
      1. +2
        1 November 2012 16: 07
        Right Thanks. This is exactly what he meant.
  8. I-16M
    +11
    1 November 2012 16: 10
    Interestingly, in this gold there are melted tooth crowns from concentration camps?
    1. Bashkaus
      +7
      1 November 2012 20: 19
      I don’t know if melted tooth roots from concentration camps are present in this gold, but the Ghanaian guys are cunning, if they are screwed up in such a brazen way, they can start smelting this gold from American citizens, especially from representatives of a Wall Street of a typical nationality - experience exists, as by cremotoria and the lightning-fast rise of the military-industrial complex both before the Second World War (((
  9. SSR
    +11
    1 November 2012 16: 17
    Last week, the German authorities "suddenly" remembered that there was no gold reserve in Germany ... in Germany.

    Germans about gold
    Russians about the central bank .....
    "I am plagued by vague doubts" laughing
    Are these additional signs that the US boat is sinking?
  10. +11
    1 November 2012 16: 20
    During a crisis, your gold should be at hand..- I guessed it myself.
  11. 0
    1 November 2012 16: 22
    Yes, Russia has also not gone far, we also keep in the Fed
    1. Melchakov
      +21
      1 November 2012 16: 29
      bubla5,
      Our gold is with us, it will not be enough, we will send the "opposition" and liberals to mine it to the Kolyma. Let's see how they are ready to work for the good of the Motherland.
      1. +6
        1 November 2012 18: 08
        We will feed only for work, then they will earn as pretty. Nothing stimulates more than fear and hunger.
    2. +4
      1 November 2012 16: 56
      Our gold is stored in Russia.
      1. +12
        1 November 2012 17: 22
        Two-thirds of our country's foreign exchange reserves are located in Moscow at the Central Bank of Russia on Pravda Street. Basically, the gold reserve of Russia is stored in standard bullion, which are placed in 6 boxes. A standard gold bar weighs between 100 and 10 kilograms. Measured ingot - from 14 grams to 100 kilogram.
    3. Bashkaus
      0
      1 November 2012 20: 20
      bubla5 I understand that you get cons from annoyance, but you're right, and how much of our gold and money from the stabilization fund in the United States is known to God alone (((I’ll give you a plus
      1. SSR
        0
        4 November 2012 12: 50
        Quote: Bashkaus
        and how much of our gold and money from the stabilization fund in the USA, God alone knows

        Baskaus. ))) We have hope our bank which the henpecked Fed well should soon become a native national Bank Pay attention to Orel and the Russian Federation))) and not the Bank of Russia)))
  12. +11
    1 November 2012 16: 23
    Yes, no one will return anything to anyone. Even discuss anything here.
    1. Sergh
      +8
      1 November 2012 17: 01
      Quote: Manager
      Yes, no one will return anything to anyone. Even discuss anything here.

      Maybe, maybe because Amers don't have gold, or rather, their gold!
  13. +10
    1 November 2012 16: 24
    Now it becomes clear not only who and why holds Europe by the eggs, but also where these eggs are
    1. +3
      1 November 2012 18: 06
      I will continue your allegory - and what color is the egg)))
  14. +6
    1 November 2012 16: 28
    Germany has no gold! Somewhere they looked like a loon.)) While the graters were rubbing with Greece, another default has ripened in America, due to 16 trillion debt and the expiration of the lease of a typewriter. Laughter, laughter, but if these two economic giants, I mean America and Germany, crawl into the abyss, then we will not think enough: it will shake so that the 98th and 2008th flowers appear.
    1. Melchakov
      +6
      1 November 2012 16: 37
      Quote: TUNISIA
      and it’s not enough for us: it will shake so that the 98th and 2008th flowers seem

      No, there will be a global building of democracy, because someone will have to pay for the happiness of the United Kingdom and the United States. And Germany will get it. And we ... we will wait as long as we can, enough to pay with our blood for a "common" victory, tired. We will bring the strategic nuclear forces to a state of combat readiness, under the guise of overthrowing a couple of "democratic" pro-fascist (and anti-human, I think they understood a hint) regimes, we will help the fighters with "freedom", and in the end, the army in the field, the navy at sea, aviation in the air, the population in villages, production in Siberia and the Arctic Circle, just in case ...
      1. +7
        1 November 2012 17: 31
        Neither the army, nor the navy, nor the aircraft, are left in the country! What remains is tears ...
        T. Stalin country since 1922 he built (not only the army, but also the defense industry !!!), and shot all kinds of Taburetkin columns (because they were not strategists, but shit that surfaced on a revolutionary wave ...), and then we came up to the war not quite prepared ... And with what today's Russia can come to a military conflict ??? “Only with a nuclear club?” This is mine the only thing that was not squandered from created in the union ....
      2. +5
        1 November 2012 19: 54
        Yes, I also thought about it. I'll go and check my mothballed dugout in the forest, I'll sharpen a saber, and grease the Saiga ... It's all sad. Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of people in the country do not understand the essence of the possible consequences ... +1 for you from me.
  15. 0
    1 November 2012 16: 32
    Heh, and our gold reserve hde ???
    1. +5
      1 November 2012 18: 15
      Two-thirds of our country's foreign exchange reserves are located in Moscow at the Central Bank of Russia on Pravda Street. Basically, the gold reserve of Russia is stored in standard bullion, which are placed in 6 boxes. A standard gold bar weighs between 100 and 10 kilograms. Measured ingot - from 14 grams to 100 kilogram.
      1. Bashkaus
        0
        1 November 2012 20: 26
        Well, 2/3 in Moscow, and the rest is where? 1/3 I'm sorry, too, not a little, very much not a little!
        1. KRAVEN333
          0
          9 November 2012 12: 15
          Especially when you consider how much gold we have.
  16. akbarr
    -1
    1 November 2012 16: 57
    I also wanted to ask where the Russian gold reserve lies. Maybe someone knows - tell me?
    1. Melchakov
      +3
      1 November 2012 17: 04
      serjant4,
      akbarr,
      At home ... and in Kolyma ....
    2. +5
      1 November 2012 17: 09
      So far, most of the Russian gold and foreign currency reserves are in a basket full of dollars, euros and pounds and, naturally, suffer from currency risks. There is no need to go far for confirmation. In the first half of May, Russian reserves decreased by $ 10 billion in just a week, which is almost 2%. It is not a matter of large-scale currency interventions, but a revaluation of the share of the depreciating euro in the Central Bank reserves.


      In spring, the gold reserve was 789 tons. . In absolute value of gold reserves, Russia is in seventh place
    3. Dimonanet
      +1
      1 November 2012 17: 16
      At the Central Bank of the Russian Federation! Which is not the state by the way)))
    4. 0
      1 November 2012 17: 28
      GDP takes care of him :) - http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=316444
  17. +7
    1 November 2012 17: 05
    Zitata von SSR

    Germans about gold
    Russians about the central bank .....
    "I am tormented by vague doubts" laughing
    Are these additional signs that the US boat is sinking?

    Here is this comment in the bullseye.
  18. +3
    1 November 2012 17: 09
    Quote: Sergh
    amers do not have gold, or rather, their gold!

    Amers have their own gold, but their Fed has only someone else’s
    1. Sergh
      +3
      1 November 2012 19: 50
      Quote: Mishael
      Amers have their own gold, but their Fed has only someone else’s

      And what, one wonders, Reagan still had to do when the commission he created headed by the chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve P. Walker (a protégé of the Rothschilds) “found out” that in Fort Knox (the US gold reserve) gold - only foreign and private. It was necessary to somehow finance the “Strategic Defense Initiative” and other innovations in the arms race, to which the Brezhnev and Andropov leaders of the USSR were, as it were, “accidentally” tackling. So Reagan began to inflate "soap bubbles", erecting "Potemkin villages" and "castles in the air" with their help. It was then that the United States and appeared national debt.

      http://akademiagp.ru/v-b-pavlenko-bolshaya-igra-rotshildov-i-rokfellerov-na-svet

      uiv-teni /
  19. KRAVEN333
    +4
    1 November 2012 17: 09
    Smart English =)
    1. EropMyxoMop
      +4
      1 November 2012 20: 47
      Bastards English.
      1. +3
        1 November 2012 23: 23
        The naglitsy.
        1. +1
          2 November 2012 16: 27
          Shaved!
  20. cool.ya-nikola
    +8
    1 November 2012 17: 17
    Around Germany completely handshake Western democracies. Why on its territory are US troops?

    Really, an interesting question? ... It seems that the Yankees do not come "seriously and for a long time", but FOREVER!
    And, you say: - "gold", "gold" (and even funnier - "our gold"! laughing )
    In foreign vaults, the owner is not allowed to own gold!

    And, which is especially touching: - ..."and the British charge 0,035 pounds for each ingot and every day of storage.". Well done! This is aerobatics !!! good
    So, sit yourself stupid Michels and Hans, and do not arise! Be content "receiving an annual receipt from auditors" hi
  21. Dimych from Vanino
    +7
    1 November 2012 17: 24
    Oh ,,,,, and I accidentally mixed up your gold with mine. What a shame .... That's how I now distinguish my gold from yours? ..... And I do not intend to give my gold to anyone .....
    1. Melchakov
      +6
      1 November 2012 17: 29
      Quote: Dimych from Vanino
      Oh ,,,,, and I accidentally mixed up your gold with mine. What a shame .... That's how I now distinguish my gold from yours? ..... And I do not intend to give my gold to anyone .....

      Good old Soviet cartoons ... Eh
  22. +2
    1 November 2012 17: 29
    Hello, a wonderful new world.

    And let's wait a bit when the oil runs out and we will see who remains at the trough. And who has an oil needle. By the way, how are the people with nuclear power plants? And uranium enrichment technology and nuclear fuel cycle. They hope to live in windmills wassat
    1. Melchakov
      +5
      1 November 2012 17: 40
      leon-iv,
      We still have gas, coal, uranium, wood and much more, in general, we will not disappear ...
      1. sea
        sea
        +1
        1 November 2012 18: 40
        if it’s not the servants of the people
        1. +4
          1 November 2012 18: 52
          Here it would be as if it was ridiculous the traitor of EBN with the HEU-KNOW agreement rendered the West a disservice.
  23. +5
    1 November 2012 17: 38
    Let them return. Belief in the decency of the Fed, etc. there is not a penny. In addition, there are already facts of substitution of ingots in storages for equivalent imitations.
  24. Gorchakov
    +4
    1 November 2012 17: 43
    All debts to which the Anglo-Saxons owe will be forgiven by them ...

    Starikov is good .. However, as always ... Article +
  25. +6
    1 November 2012 18: 00
    Like Nixon at the legislative level forbade the exchange of bucks for gold. after de gol amer a full steamer of bucks tarnished and took almost all the gold from amers a. so to say, changed. and the Fritz are not there looking for allies
  26. +7
    1 November 2012 18: 08
    It seems that no one paid attention to the voiced statement of the head of the German Central Bank:
    Gold, which is stored in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, in the event of a crisis can be used as collateral against the denomination of the dollar. Also, the liquidity of the pound can be supported against the mortgage of the gold held by the Bank of England ”“He says.”

    German type gold guarantees a dollar and a pound! ?
    Something with my memory has become, like the gold now the US dollar doesn’t provide for 30 or 40 years anyway!
    Hmm, maybe they just don’t provide their own, but to a stranger ...
    bully
    1. Bashkaus
      +2
      1 November 2012 20: 36
      I, too, was most bothered by this phrase)))
    2. +1
      2 November 2012 23: 30
      Quote: Cynic
      http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=316444

      This is outright cynicism. Germany’s gold reserves should hold the euro, not the dying dollar. But who will give it now ...
  27. +3
    1 November 2012 18: 09
    Eh, it’s not worth it. It’s far from being sympathetic to the Fritz. It’s not so bad for them, it’s not a nation to give gold to anyone to the detriment of themselves, and no one will allow the EU’s strong economy to be ruined. They will not become Germany.
  28. +4
    1 November 2012 18: 12
    It is all the same that the money set aside for a rainy day should be deposited with a good neighbor. And at one point, quarrel with this neighbor over, say, his dog, shitting on your rug. Or you urgently needed money, and if he’s not at home or cleaner, he invested them in some kind of MMM without your knowledge. You need to keep your money with you. Investing in something is another matter. But even there it is not always so easy to pull them out of circulation.
  29. +8
    1 November 2012 18: 34
    Nothing prevented the United States from abandoning France in 1965, its ally and stop exchanging dollars for gold, which led France to withdraw from the gold pool. In addition, there is no direct evidence that Germany will receive all the gold back ....... .... everything is up to a hundredth of a gram, a small bummer may turn out !!!
    1. Vanek
      0
      2 November 2012 06: 08
      1536 tons of gold hidden in New York

      Quote: APASUS
      may get a little bummer!


      A small bummer weighing one and a half thousand tons. laughing laughing laughing

      London, Paris did not count.
      1. 0
        2 November 2012 18: 43
        Quote: Vanek
        A small bummer weighing one and a half thousand tons. London, Paris did not count.

        And what in the modern world have priorities changed?
        Although I will try to answer your question:
        Do you think London and Paris will throw the welfare of their citizens at the feet of Berlin - for the sake of some gold?
        He won’t leave you, I assure you! His shirt is closer to his body!
        Look at the history of the return of Marcus’s money to the Philippines, all of Europe confirmed the illegality of this money !! But to get it, the legitimate government .................. there is such a SCAM ....... .... read at your leisure!
    2. 0
      2 November 2012 23: 47
      The Americans gave everything, but soon as a result of the revolution in 1968 (in my opinion), De Gaulle lost his post as head of state. For some reason, the people who loved him so dearly changed their minds. Germany demanded its gold then, but quietly, not so pompously. But de Gaulle did his job, already in 1973 the United States officially withdrawn from the Bretton Woods agreement, which essentially means that the dollar is a simple paper, not backed by anything. At that time, the Arab countries declared an oil war on the West in retaliation for the US's support for Israel in the Arab War. This put the West on the brink of disaster, and Brezhnev-radish, instead of putting the squeeze on the pin .... dosov, built "Friendship" and began selling them oil for a lot of money, which essentially saved them.
  30. +1
    1 November 2012 19: 15
    But our army went home. The American and British armies remained in Germany. From whom they protect it today is a rhetorical question that always baffles the inhabitants of Germany.

    From Poland, a member of NATO? From Holland, a member of NATO? From Luxembourg? Maybe from Denmark, a member of NATO?

    I will say simply: there are two armies in the world. One is ours, the other is German. I do not like them, bastards, but I must admit that the Germans know how to fight. AND LOVE. We don’t love, but we have to .... So I doubt very much that right now the Germans’s money is not under the protection of Germany .....
  31. +1
    1 November 2012 19: 26
    And it’s not the "gold of the party" that pops up for so long, (or didn’t "want" to look for it. (I think so))
  32. Nechai
    +3
    1 November 2012 19: 48
    Quote: submariner
    Will there be enough courage and strength

    This is something, in fact, about the restoration of German sovereignty.
    Quote: urzul
    after the death of Joseph Vissarionovich, this gold was paid for the American grain, after the economic reforms.

    By the accession of the humpback, 2400-2600 tons remained. Now less than 900tn ...
    1. Sergh
      +3
      1 November 2012 20: 08
      Quote: Nechai
      Now less than 900tn


      20.08.2012, 19: 38: 27

      Monetary gold reserves in Russia's international reserves in July continued to grow and increased by 2 percent to 30,1 million troy ounces (about 936 tons) This was reported in the materials of the Bank of Russia. Since the beginning of the year, gold reserves have grown by about 53 tons.

      In monetary terms, Russia's gold reserves increased by 5,1 percent to $ 48,678 billion. The share of gold in reserves reached 9,5 percent, at the beginning of July it was exactly 9 percent.

      Russia's gold reserves have been steadily growing in recent years. At the beginning of 2007, it amounted to 402 tons, in 2010 it increased to 638 tons, and by 2012 it reached 883 tons.

      In terms of gold reserves, Russia ranks sixth in the world. Only the United States (8,133 thousand tons), Germany (3,396 thousand tons), Italy (2,451 thousand tons), France (2,435 thousand tons) and China (1,054 thousand tons, data for 2009) have more gold.

      Last year, the Bank of Russia significantly reduced the purchase of gold in the domestic market. If in 2011 136,6 tons were bought from Russian manufacturers and processors, in 2011 only 81,3 tons were purchased.

      http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/20738/

      in 2000, Vladimir Putin took it at a rate of 384 tons.
  33. +2
    1 November 2012 19: 56
    Do not see the Germans gold as their ears. Filkin will receive letters again from their brothers in arms.
  34. psv_company
    +6
    1 November 2012 20: 07
    The amount of gold as shown in the table is not impressive. I was looking for comparing and that's what happened. If we take all the gold of the Russian Empire that was stored in the reserve + production during the USSR (also released into the reserve) and the reserve of modern Russia, if there were no collapse of the Empire, then our treasury should have approximately 16956,23 tons of gold. And after the collapse of the Russian Empire, it settled in the countries of Entente and America, partly Germany, just after the collapse of the USSR 60% of the gold settled in the USA + 5 tons of Uranium were exported to this (despite the fact that the average uranium mining plant produces 100 kg in 30 years) . Draw conclusions. The plan is one and simple. Come on * fuck and pick up
  35. serge
    +3
    1 November 2012 20: 42
    An ingenious find of the Americans in its impudence. First, a country is occupied (like Germany, Japan or Iraq) or the governance structure of that country is falling apart (as in Russia or in many countries of South America or Asia). Then the values ​​of this country are taken into storage, natural resources are changed to a digital dollar, and a digital dollar is changed to US bonds. A breathtaking scam that has no analogues in world history. Well, the Germans will get their gold. From a dead donkey ears.
  36. Stasi.
    +4
    1 November 2012 20: 45
    The Germans finally began to think with their head, after all the dope of democracy, which was launched by the Anglo-Saxons and the Yankees. The excuse is convincing: to conduct a complete inventory of gold located abroad and no one can refuse them. But the question is: will the Germans, after verification, return their gold back to the Americans and the British and French? There is no Stopudovo, for this gold was one of the trump cards of the West against Germany, a means of its control. It is unlikely that the Germans would again want to give control of themselves again to someone’s hands, they now began to think with their brains for real. And they were tired of enduring all these British and Americans. In the event of a major European crisis, Russia should help Germany, because the Germans and I suffered from the Anglo-Saxons, they pitted us in the First and Second World War. I don’t know who how, but I stand for an alliance with Germany.
  37. +1
    1 November 2012 21: 02
    PRO @ BALI.
    What else to add?
  38. pavlo007
    -4
    1 November 2012 21: 40
    Although the Germans store gold in foreign banks, they invest real money in their own economy, and Emperor Voldemar the First sterilizes our funds for a couple of percent, not even in cut candy wrappers with the image of the local condoms, but in VIRTUAL RECORDS on computers. At the same time, they constantly talk about the need for foreign investment (read about the sale of sweet pieces of Russia) and take loans in the West, but only not at 2 percent ...
    And money is a convention - the influence in modern amre determines this metal, though valuable, but ...
  39. Tom230
    +3
    1 November 2012 21: 59
    The Annlo-Saxons hold Germans tightly by their eggs. This is so that the Germans do not accidentally leave NATO. The GDP kind of hinted to Merkel that she would stop dancing to the tune of the Anglo-Saxons, she only whimpered in response.
  40. iulai
    +2
    1 November 2012 22: 22
    the English fellows, they won’t miss their! we would have such rulers, I wonder how many debts they wrote off to different Africa?
  41. +3
    1 November 2012 22: 25
    Now, in many ways, it is clear why the decision to withdraw the Russian Central Bank from the control of the President and the Government is being lobbied. The almighty paper dollar is jumping around the planet.
  42. georg737577
    +3
    1 November 2012 22: 56
    The news really makes you think ... It is already clear that the whole world is on the verge of gigantic changes, and probably America will do everything to establish a single global government, up to simulating an alien invasion ...
  43. tambu
    -1
    1 November 2012 23: 08
    Yes, what are you?))) I remember how the Americans went away from their part of Germany ... then they were escorted by flowers and songs, they say come again friends, we are always glad to see you ... and ours .... well, at least we didn’t shoot in the back ... although frankly speaking, the Germans had a sin to complain .... our sold them so many equipment, and they left different warehouses that they had nothing to complain about ... but still ... I remember the Americans left Deutschland, leaving only consultants .... I’ll clarify with a friend ... but it seems to me it's all a filkin letter ... and not an article ...
  44. patriot2
    +3
    2 November 2012 00: 17
    Interestingly, someone thought how much gold and currency were exported from Russia by businessmen-officials after the collapse of the USSR to this day?
    1. DRY
      DRY
      +1
      2 November 2012 07: 21
      it seems to me that it would be scary even to make assumptions about who and how much ........... It is only known where they were taken to the USA, because they all have more
    2. 0
      2 November 2012 18: 51
      Quote from the patriot2:
      Interestingly, someone thought how much gold and currency were exported from Russia by businessmen-officials after the collapse of the USSR to this day?

      Take a closer look at the posts above.
      As correctly noted psv_company, gold has not disappeared.
      I would even say so: from the time when human civilization remembers itself. It’s always somewhere in someone’s pocket.
      Another question is whether gold throughout this period was what it is now, because there was a time when a kilogram (a kilogram was not always a kilogram, but an ounce-ounce) of salt was equal in price to a kilogram of gold.
  45. avreli
    0
    2 November 2012 06: 14
    If the moderators of the resource were forbidden to throw caps up, as well as at the enemy, he would not have a price. wink
    ...
    It seems that Starikov was inspired by materials from MixedNews.
    For example, http://mixednews.ru/archives/26223 and a selection of links at the bottom of the text.
    Also interesting:
    http://mixednews.ru/archives/26036
    Claims for 43 trillion, and clearing glades.
    And roaming in gibberish, perhaps a reference to screenshots will also be interesting:
    http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2012/10/43-trillion-dollar-suit-agains
    t-us-govt.html
    1. 0
      2 November 2012 13: 13
      Followed the link and read:
      CNBC chief editor John Carney has released an editorial stating that it matters not whether the New York Fed has gold or that Bank of England vaults are filled with tungsten instead of gold, or it is loaned out or replaced by something else, or even does it exist at all - the only thing that matters is the Fed's accounting records, which say that gold is there:
      "It really doesn't matter one gram if the New York Fed keeps the German central bank gold, or if it's pure. If the Fed says it's there, that's also good for all the practical uses that might be needed." It can be sold, lent, used as collateral, used to offset liabilities, and accounted for as bank capital, whether it exists or not.
      The actual availability of gold will not make an iota of difference, unless the central bank of Germany decides to use gold for some practical, non-monetary purposes, say, decides to start making watches.
      For almost all conceivable operational goals, the actual existence of gold at Fort Knox or at the Fed's vault does not matter. The value here is keeping records. So while the Fed says that the Bundesbank has the value of gold X, the Bundesbank can act as if it owns gold, even if it somehow miraculously falls into a gold-absorbing galactic black hole.
      I am sure that the Bundesbank understands this quite well, even if the German court does not understand it. There is nothing to be gained from inspecting gold. If it is there and pure, there is no difference from the state of not knowing about it. And if there is no gold, well, the result could be chaos, as confidence in central banks' gold depositories will evaporate instantly. "

      Unfortunately for the Fed and the Bank of England, Hugo Chavez, and now the German court, has caused an impending avalanche of requests for physical gold return and repatriation.
      It turns out that part of the gold of the Germans, and not only has long been squandered, and now make pathetic attempts to otmazatsya. This should have been added to the article, the caps would be thrown harder wink
  46. nic
    nic
    +1
    2 November 2012 14: 05
    The Germans will rock the situation, they will find another 6 million trained Jews, and they will roll out the account for all the gold in foreign banks, the deutch still have to remain. For the first time or something.
  47. Nechai
    +2
    2 November 2012 15: 09
    Quote: psv_company
    5 tons of Uranus were exported to this

    In my opinion, 500tn floated away. All mined U235y. Enriched to weapon level. This was motivated by the fact that they say in special. b / h of the Russian Federation does not plan to apply it. But about compact nuclear power plants, the PMC somehow bashfully kept silent ...
    Quote: Sergh
    in 2000, Vladimir Putin took it at a rate of 384 tons.

    Yeah, and another Decree issued, saying that now in Russia Au-Aurum IS NOT A CURRENCY ASSET ... And the tax on it and the purchase and sale (by law, in banks to private individuals) are EXTRAORDINARY, essentially prohibitive.
  48. 0
    2 November 2012 16: 13
    The Tale of Stupid Hans
  49. Bender
    0
    2 November 2012 18: 44
    Everyone wants gold, and so do the odds!

    Everyone wants hans too!
  50. AAA
    AAA
    0
    5 November 2012 12: 47
    Gansikam should take off their pink glasses. What kind of owner will give his dog the best piece of meat? So let the gentlemen from the American colony called Germany rest.