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The airborne units participating in the special operation received the latest intelligence complex "Vzor"

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The airborne units participating in the special operation received the latest intelligence complex "Vzor"

The units of the Russian Airborne Forces, which take part in a special military operation, received a batch of 50 units of the new individual operational reconnaissance system "Vzor" for trial operation. This system is launched from a rocket launcher.


It is known that the Vzor apparatus itself weighs only 300 grams, has a length of 30 cm and a diameter of 5 cm. It is equipped with a video camera and a parachute. "Vzor" is capable of gaining a height of 250 m. While it is descending on a parachute, the video camera manages to transmit information to the reconnaissance tablet. The operator can be up to 1200 meters away from the drone itself.

The software installed on the tablet allows you to recognize, capture and highlight typical objects. Moreover, this software can be installed on any commercial tablet, smartphone or laptop.

- cited RIA News a source in the military-industrial complex of Russia, who announced the transfer of the new system to the paratroopers.

As for the camera installed on the drone, it can be both daylight and high-contrast for working at dusk. The cameras receive a high-resolution image of the surface with an area of ​​700x700 meters within 3 minutes. In addition, the camera can be reused if the scouts manage to pick it up. Then with its help it will be possible to observe the environment, if you fix the camera on improvised supports, masts or other structures.

There is no doubt that the new apparatus will increase the combat effectiveness of the reconnaissance units of the Airborne Forces. In a special operation, its use is especially important.
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  1. Eva Star
    Eva Star 1 December 2022 09: 02
    -14
    He cut the dough and not the look. Any civilian drone will conduct reconnaissance at ten kilometers and not at 1200 meters.
    1. Johnson Smithson
      Johnson Smithson 1 December 2022 09: 12
      +13
      this is an individual complex, they do not need to be able to manage and each fighter can have
      1. notingem
        notingem 1 December 2022 09: 23
        +5
        We won't go broke on tablets? For every fighter. And by the way, how to charge all this electronic crap in the field?
        1. Johnson Smithson
          Johnson Smithson 1 December 2022 09: 25
          +4
          Chinese tablets now cost 5-10 thousand rubles, they shoot a large amount of rounds in a day
          plus you can withdraw it to your phone, and everyone has them anyway
          1. Trapp1st
            Trapp1st 1 December 2022 09: 51
            +2
            Chinese tablets now cost 5-10 thousand rubles
            Surely, we will soon find out that the Vzor reconnaissance complex is another toy from alik, like with Dobrynya for 130k, although this is a Chinese copter for 30k. Corruption in the Moscow Region is simply universal!
          2. olezenka1
            olezenka1 1 December 2022 13: 37
            +3
            It seems like smartphones in the field are not welcome in our troops. I'm not sure, but the enemy detects (yes, like us) by gsm signals, including phones.
            1. Dost
              Dost 1 December 2022 21: 21
              +2
              Not welcome, oh yes. A friend of mine recently told how his friend died in Ukraine. They dragged a smartphone, started filming in the frontline zone, and in a couple of minutes they were covered.
              1. Garik Gorkin
                Garik Gorkin 2 December 2022 12: 28
                0
                Probably it was necessary to switch the smartphone to offline mode, and also turn off the gsm, wifi, bluetooth modules for reliability.
                1. Dost
                  Dost 2 December 2022 18: 10
                  0
                  And what about taking it off and not posting it. Remember the saying - If you didn't post it, it didn't happen. In a smartphone, the GPS module can work without visible inclusion.
                  1. Garik Gorkin
                    Garik Gorkin 2 December 2022 21: 24
                    0
                    In a smartphone, the GPS module is a signal receiver.
                    1. Dost
                      Dost 2 December 2022 22: 45
                      0
                      It accepts and GSM will transmit and will not ask you.
        2. user
          user 1 December 2022 09: 30
          +3
          And by the way, how to charge all this electronic crap in the field?


          To do this, there is a Power bank of different capacities.
          1. Trapp1st
            Trapp1st 1 December 2022 09: 53
            +3
            To do this, there is a Power bank of different capacities.
            Could be so
            There are a lot of unparalleled Russian developments on alik laughing
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 1 December 2022 19: 30
              0
              Quote: notingem
              We won't go broke on tablets? For every fighter. And by the way, how to charge all this electronic crap in the field?
              As I understand it, the device itself with a video camera (“Vzor”) is carried by one of the intelligence officers, and after it is launched in the right area, the information goes to a computer that may be located at the operator’s headquarters, where all the information is collected (perhaps from several reconnaissance groups).
              1. ROSS_51
                ROSS_51 2 December 2022 13: 40
                0
                Quote: Bad_gr
                Quote: notingem
                We won't go broke on tablets? For every fighter. And by the way, how to charge all this electronic crap in the field?
                As I understand it, the device itself with a video camera (“Vzor”) is carried by one of the intelligence officers, and after it is launched in the right area, the information goes to a computer that may be located at the operator’s headquarters, where all the information is collected (perhaps from several reconnaissance groups).

                No, this is a personal camera to look over the fence. For tactical missions.
                1. Bad_gr
                  Bad_gr 2 December 2022 17: 51
                  0
                  Quote: ROSS_51
                  this is a personal camera to look over the fence
                  "Vzor" is launched from a rocket launcher to a height of up to 250 m, from which it descends by parachute, but sends information from the camera to a distance of up to 1200 m. A personal camera does not need such transmitter power.
                  1. ROSS_51
                    ROSS_51 2 December 2022 20: 07
                    0
                    It's the military. Who knows what TK was there? Maybe Reinsurance in terms of power, for example, or a unified module for some other stray.
            2. brr1
              brr1 2 December 2022 04: 49
              +1
              Oh damn, at 394 km it was such a miracle.


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        3. ROSS_51
          ROSS_51 2 December 2022 00: 28
          -2
          Quote: notingem
          We won't go broke on tablets? For every fighter. And by the way, how to charge all this electronic crap in the field?

          Yes, of course, it’s better to send three fighters to reconnaissance, we have more of them than tablets ..
          When will you, such thrifty ones, be taken to the wards?
          1. notingem
            notingem 2 December 2022 13: 06
            0
            Thrifty? Where are the 1.5 million uniforms? Am I taken to the wards?
            1. ROSS_51
              ROSS_51 2 December 2022 14: 09
              -1
              Quote: notingem
              Thrifty? Where are the 1.5 million uniforms? Am I taken to the wards?

              What does theft and modern warfare have to do with it?
              I admit that you have a push-button telephone and the imagination is simply not able to absorb information more complicated than 1,5 million stolen uniforms.
              Then just, as an example, watch this video - why do we need gadgets in the army and how they are fighting now. And it's everywhere, not just artillery.
              1. notingem
                notingem 2 December 2022 17: 10
                0
                Pipes from the Patriarchs. Gadgets can't dig a trench
                1. ROSS_51
                  ROSS_51 2 December 2022 20: 12
                  0
                  Quote: notingem
                  Pipes from the Patriarchs. Gadgets can't dig a trench

                  But now it’s easy to throw a grenade into your trench with a gadget. Dig, dig .. However, to whom I say this, they got stuck in their brains in the middle of the last century .. push-button telephone ..
    2. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 1 December 2022 09: 16
      -2
      A forced decision. And so you are right - the quadrocopter will shoot further and longer. But it is vulnerable to both small arms and drone strikes
      1. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 1 December 2022 09: 21
        +5
        dmi.pris hi and this sample has a vulnerability to the wind rose, but how to charge it with a new one? In the field or in the factory.
        1. Rustic
          Rustic 1 December 2022 16: 08
          +1
          But how to charge it with a new one? In the field or in the factory.
          And it makes sense to shove expensive batteries into it, if it is essentially a one-time thing. Pulnul, looked for 5 seconds, and that's it. No one will wander through the fields looking for him. Accordingly, it is easier without any charges, I inserted ordinary batteries and it’s not a pity.
      2. oleg-nekrasov-19
        oleg-nekrasov-19 1 December 2022 10: 05
        +3
        Yes, this is a completely normal and rational decision, many times cheaper than using quadrocopters during RPM (reconnaissance and search activities).
      3. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 1 December 2022 10: 09
        +5
        Quote: dmi.pris
        And so you are right - the quadcopter will shoot further and longer

        Yes you are right. But not every fighter has it, not what it is, but maybe. And "Vzor" can be for everyone. And they don't have to be used by everyone at the same time. A fighter just really needs to know what is there, for example, behind the fence? Or next door. And this is very important for a fighter to know. One and he cannot request a quadric from anyone. groups. So, I think this is a very necessary and important thing, this "Vzor"
        1. Hey
          Hey 1 December 2022 10: 29
          +3
          And "Vzor" can be for everyone.

          And what prevents each fighter from giving a mini drone that can fly around the corner of the house and return, then fly around the corner of another house and return again and hang there for 5-10 minutes. Instead of wasting money on a shot and lost, and after 3 minutes shoot again. So you can’t save yourself from video cameras. Better these cameras are on the bar and in the trench, so as not to stick out or look around the corner during the assault in settlements.
          1. ROSS_51
            ROSS_51 2 December 2022 00: 34
            0
            Quote: MUD
            And "Vzor" can be for everyone.

            And what prevents each fighter from giving a mini drone that can fly around the corner of the house and return, then fly around the corner of another house and return again and hang there for 5-10 minutes. Instead of wasting money on a shot and lost, and after 3 minutes shoot again. So you can’t save yourself from video cameras. Better these cameras are on the bar and in the trench, so as not to stick out or look around the corner during the assault in settlements.

            How many people will cover him in combat conditions while he controls the drone?
            By the way, the Americans, by the way, already came up with something like this for their specialists a couple of years ago, only it is fired from a grenade launcher.
          2. Garik Gorkin
            Garik Gorkin 2 December 2022 13: 14
            0
            And what prevents each fighter from giving a mini drone

            Enemies have a means of intercepting the control of Mavic copters. Some military correspondents wrote about this, and there was a video of how our fighter launched the copter, and after 5 minutes the enemies took control and stole the copter to themselves.
            However, this is natural. In Ukraine, industry has been destroyed for a long time, and it was necessary to earn somehow, so a large number of Ukrainians began to study computer technology (as in poor India). paradoxical situation. The population of Ukraine is several times smaller than in Russia, and the number of IT specialists is several times larger and they are more qualified. These people found vulnerabilities in the copter control protocol and created interception devices.
            Basically, this applies to household copters, and military UAVs have more secure control protocols, it is more difficult to hack them. Although I know that the Israeli military has learned to take control of the Iranian shaheeds. There is a video on YouTube of how an Israeli installation detects Shahed in the air, takes control, turns off his engine and he falls. They seem to have promised to deliver these devices to Ukraine for a long time.
            In general, the conclusion is that we need copters with a more secure control channel.
        2. Askold65
          Askold65 1 December 2022 13: 57
          0
          I remember the media report, even after the storming of Mariupol, our soldiers used some kind of compact radar and watched on the monitor the movement of militants behind shelters. I remembered the name.
    3. Andrey72
      Andrey72 1 December 2022 10: 10
      0
      Are you well versed in military affairs?
    4. Duncan
      Duncan 1 December 2022 11: 08
      +2
      I didn’t cut it, but just a lagging technology (and that’s not a fact, the UAV has a heavy expensive battery and electromechanics). Which at the next stage of development can go ahead somewhere (parachute-wing with a motor, for example).
  2. KCA
    KCA 1 December 2022 09: 03
    -1
    I wonder if the photo is staged or not, the fighter, it seems, is not too overall, but he holds the PC in his hands, it seems like he’s prepared for shooting
    1. Postcode
      Postcode 1 December 2022 09: 27
      +4
      He is a paratrooper, well trained))))))))))))
      1. KCA
        KCA 1 December 2022 09: 33
        0
        Well, it’s not easy to hold 15.5kg, and even the recoil of the PPC, the muzzle energy is like that of a 12-gauge gun, but it shoots single shots, and from the burst from the PC, the fighter, even if he keeps the butt tightly pressed to his shoulder with all his dope, will go back, Schwartz in Terminator-2 from Vulcan fired blanks, and then he was in the ass and what kind of auto-corrector k__Ozly built for him so that he would not fly around the pavilion
        1. Postcode
          Postcode 1 December 2022 11: 21
          +1
          How long ago did you shoot from a PC or Pecheneg?))))) Everything needs skill, hardening, training. No one says that it’s easy in the army at all)))) They don’t shoot in long bursts while standing or from a knee, without stopping, well, or in certain situations, for example, when capturing / defending a building, to create a certain density of fire, not for aimed shooting.
          1. KCA
            KCA 1 December 2022 11: 34
            0
            I didn’t shoot with PKM, but I fired at 12 gauge for the first time at 7 years old, didn’t press the butt, squirmed in a haystack, my father was a noble hunter, and an entertainer, he caught ducks where no one expected at all, for example, at the bowler hat with an ear, jumped up, grabbed a gun and shot, the duck went into the soup the next day, there was even an honorary hunter, tickets in spring and autumn for game are free, but for an elk or a wild boar the usual license and ticket, well, he taught me to the rules and regulations, if you don't eat, don't shoot
            1. ROSS_51
              ROSS_51 2 December 2022 04: 27
              0
              Machine gunners are usually chosen from stronger guys. Although .. all loaded in fact.
  3. Comandor777
    Comandor777 1 December 2022 09: 06
    -1
    50 units for all Airborne Forces)) While I understand how it works, it has already ended. And laughter and sin.
    1. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 1 December 2022 09: 16
      +2
      Comandor777 hi, in the article, EXPERIMENTAL operation is indicated, that is, it will not work, it may not be produced at all.
    2. Johnson Smithson
      Johnson Smithson 1 December 2022 09: 16
      +1
      trial operation is written, which means that there are still tests, for good, every fighter should have it and not one
      1. Egeny
        Egeny 1 December 2022 09: 28
        -5
        Quote from Johnson Smithson
        every fighter should have it and not just one

        that is, "I'm alone on the road ... I can't see anyone, I start the toy and wait until the data is displayed on the screen ... but why?
        1. Plate
          Plate 1 December 2022 09: 45
          +1
          What for? Well... to know what's around?
          1. Egeny
            Egeny 1 December 2022 10: 17
            -4
            Quote: Plate
            to know what's around?

            that is, you are alone in the trench and do not know the situation?
            If you are left alone, then either you need to pull your wounded out of the meat grinder, or shoot back to the last bullet, and not launch the fool into the sky, smart guy with a plate.
            1. Plate
              Plate 1 December 2022 10: 51
              +1
              Quote from Egeni
              that is, you are alone in the trench and do not know the situation?

              And what if I'm not alone, then I'm guaranteed to know everything? Maybe I'm wondering what's in the enemy trench? Here's what you need to know right now.
              1. Egeny
                Egeny 1 December 2022 11: 03
                0
                Quote: Plate
                Maybe I'm wondering what's in the enemy trench?

                What for? Throw a grenade - find out.)
            2. ROSS_51
              ROSS_51 2 December 2022 00: 37
              +1
              Quote from Egeni
              Quote: Plate
              to know what's around?

              that is, you are alone in the trench and do not know the situation?
              If you are left alone, then either you need to pull your wounded out of the meat grinder, or shoot back to the last bullet, and not launch the fool into the sky, smart guy with a plate.

              Have you been out of the trench for a long time? Lost?
  4. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 1 December 2022 09: 08
    +1
    Of course, the Special Military Operation will make a huge contribution to the development of the Russian Armed Forces for decades to come.
    1. Bomb
      Bomb 1 December 2022 09: 15
      -9
      And for this they will pay with their lives 100 thousand. Russian soldiers.
      1. Egeny
        Egeny 1 December 2022 09: 23
        -1
        Quote: Bomb
        100 thousand Russian soldiers.

        This figure of losses comes from the lips of Ursula about the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but not our fighters ...
    2. hhurik
      hhurik 1 December 2022 12: 18
      0
      Doubtful. A smart person learns from the mistakes of others, .. - from his own. Won the last war in Karabakh contributed a lot to development? Yes, no one even scratched himself, although a vivid example of the confrontation between the outdated Soviet-Russian military system and the advanced Western one.
      Imitation. There is only one imitation around - nothing can be fixed, everything must be burned. And start with a plywood marshal.
  5. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 1 December 2022 09: 12
    +1
    Excuse me, but if it is carried to the territory of the "gray" or the enemy, we can no longer return it ?! And how much does this drone cost, I mean that if the price is a penny, then hello quality))) and if the price is not small, isn’t it too expensive?
    1. Johnson Smithson
      Johnson Smithson 1 December 2022 09: 20
      0
      as I understand it, it is disposable, well, the price of a shot from an ATGM or a grenade launcher is also not small, so what?
      such drones are not expensive against the background of the cost of ammunition,
      for example, a civilian drone that can fly several kilometers can be assembled by yourself for plus or minus 30-50 thousand rubles
      1. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 1 December 2022 09: 25
        -1
        Johnson Smithson hi, then it’s not easier to supply units with ordinary quadro-type drones and reusable and more convenient (it’s controllable) and it’s easier to reload.
        1. Johnson Smithson
          Johnson Smithson 1 December 2022 09: 29
          0
          You can’t give a drone to everyone, you need to be able to control it, and its charge is only enough for 15-20 minutes. And such a kit is individual and always ready for work, but disposable.

          It does not replace the drone, they should also be, but for example, a reconnaissance group of 2-3 people will not have their own drone.
          1. Murmur 55
            Murmur 55 1 December 2022 09: 37
            -2
            Johnson Smithson, question price? How much is this disposable? How many times per battle can you need the "services" of such intelligence, the quality of the picture? How to reload it into a rocket launcher? Do you need to shoot from open space to launch? And the wind?
            1. Johnson Smithson
              Johnson Smithson 1 December 2022 09: 46
              0
              a civilian drone that flies several kilometers costs 30-50 thousand rubles, this one should be cheaper

              it is clear that they will not launch it every 10 minutes, well, they don’t shoot from an ATGM like a machine gun, and there the shots will be more expensive

              they won’t reload anything, it’s disposable, we went to reconnaissance, and each took a couple of pieces, stumbled upon the enemy, a fight ensued, we had to get out, and then he would come in handy
              1. Murmur 55
                Murmur 55 1 December 2022 10: 03
                -1
                Johnson Smithson, that's exactly what it should be, the quadric can be launched from the room, can this one? Who will have better picture quality? And if the wind blows it away, what will you see? I'm not clinging to you, but to the article.
                1. Johnson Smithson
                  Johnson Smithson 1 December 2022 10: 13
                  0
                  the quadric is not an individual tool, each fighter cannot control it, but this one is like a rocket launcher, imagine an illuminating rocket, this one is like it, fired, and looked around while it descends for 3-5 minutes
                  in battle when you don’t know who is where, it will be useful not to climb where the enemy is already sitting

                  Well, it will be blown away by the wind, so what? Quadcopters are also blown away by the wind and it happens that with the ends, now do not use quadrocopters?
            2. Plate
              Plate 1 December 2022 09: 48
              0
              I do not deny the problems of all new types of weapons, but, remember, about the drones in front of the NMD they drove the same bodyagu. Expensive, the wind will blow it away, the electronic warfare will put down, what for it is generally needed, etc. etc. There is no such thing as good equipment.
              1. Murmur 55
                Murmur 55 1 December 2022 10: 05
                0
                Plate hi, here are golden words, GOOD, but here the benefit is not clear until the price of this device and its quality are clear.
                1. Plate
                  Plate 1 December 2022 10: 48
                  0
                  Let the field test results decide.
      2. Comandor777
        Comandor777 1 December 2022 15: 20
        0
        When such a thing enters MO, multiply its cost by 3 at once.
    2. Egeny
      Egeny 1 December 2022 09: 41
      -2
      Quote: Murmur 55
      isn't it too hard?

      Completely agree with you. Individuals do not "go" to reconnaissance, they receive RAM at headquarters or on tablets from a drone also from headquarters
  6. AAC
    AAC 1 December 2022 09: 22
    +1
    In addition, the camera can be reused if the scouts manage to pick it up.

    Or the enemy, if he picks it up.
    The software installed on the tablet allows you to recognize, capture and highlight typical objects. Moreover, this software can be installed on any commercial tablet, smartphone or laptop.

    And vice versa)))
  7. Corrosion inhibitor
    Corrosion inhibitor 1 December 2022 09: 26
    +4
    Finally. Smart products began to appear.
    From an ordinary rocket launcher, yes, shoot like that - five points to engineers! Both for ingenuity and for timeliness.
    You can't invent this beforehand. Only, in the process.
    1. K-36
      K-36 1 December 2022 12: 01
      +3
      SW. Corrosion inhibitor. your postulate ( You can't invent this beforehand. Only, in progress. ) is not correct, alas yes It's all due to your ignorance. There was an article about this device on this forum almost 4 years ago. Only then it was called "Eye", and not "Vzor". Here is the link:
      https://topwar.ru/153107-rossijskie-bojcy-poluchat-glaz-dlja-vedenija-individualnoj-razvedki.html
      I don’t want to convict you (on a purely individual basis) of this ignorance, because almost all readers of this topic also did not show it lol The thing is that I (I confess hesitatingly) are subject to the fixed idea: to force high-ranking aviation officials to equip all Russian aircraft with a small-sized radio beacon in case they fall. So that there are no such stories as the search for the fallen An-2 in the Urals, or the search for the Mi-2 in the taiga (carrying a batch of gold from the mine), or the search for the fallen Yak-40 with passengers 1 meters from the runway (at air temperature - 700 deg. (accidentally found after 18 hours, when everyone had already died of hypothermia). That is why I purposefully searched for devices capable of firing off the fuselage when it fell, so that the SEARCH TIME would be reduced as much as possible by the radio signal from such a device (and at the same time material the cost of conducting a search lasting in years / as in the cases of the An-5 and Yak-2 /). Thus, the device, later called first "Eye" and then "Vzor", fell into the field of my interest. And the first mention of it I found a manufactured copy about 40 years ago (approximately).
      For sim regards hi
      1. Corrosion inhibitor
        Corrosion inhibitor 1 December 2022 12: 15
        +1
        YES, refuting - no doubt.
        But, in this whole undertaking, I like not novelty, including the "long forgotten", but unification, when there is nothing special in small series. In the article about the Airborne Forces, it was about a conventional rocket launcher. Victories in wars begin, among other things, with such implementations that you cannot design in advance. Only something special, weighing 0,4 kg, is designed in advance, which, apparently, is the main thing at that time. And when it comes down to it, completely different options come into play.
        I considered this the main thing and did not make further inquiries.
        For example, the Brusilovsky breakthrough was not made with a new type of guns - the method of firing at topographical references was new. And what, nevertheless, was the stunning result?
        Here, a case of a different scale. But, the principle is the same.
        By the way, you have a good idea. Nobody needs victims while they are dying. They are needed either by the dead or the survivors. And on the pages of newspapers and in other places - the same thing.
        You have a chance to change this.
        1. K-36
          K-36 1 December 2022 13: 35
          +1
          SW. A. Gromov, your final phrase " You have a chance to change it." did not add any optimism to me. And here's why:
          1. Yak-40 (it crashed with passengers on January 24, 1988. Everyone died! Any conclusions were made by bureaucrats from the Ministry of Aviation Industry (at that time)?!? Or by warriors from the EG APSS (Unified State Aviation Rescue Service - for that time)?!?NO!!! am
          2. Mi-2 with 60 kg of gold on board fell on 30 Oct. 1994 Found a year later. Everyone on board was killed. What conclusions were made by bureaucrats?!? Again - NO!!! am
          3, An-2 in the Ural taiga fell on June 11, 2015. Found on May 5, 2016. All died. Any conclusions? Again - NO!!! fool
          4. Ka-52 crashed near Torzhok on March 12, 2012. at 21-05. Found on March 13 at 8-45. Both pilots had died by then. Conclusions from bureaucrats - again NO !!! am
          I have a whole selection of such air disasters. And the death of still living people (at the time of the fall) is united by only one factor: did not know exactly where the aircraft was !
          Well, who should write now? In the MAP, so it is no longer in modern Russia. In EG APSS - similarly. To whom??? (name it!).
          So it remains for me, as in the song of K. Nikolsky (gr. "Sunday"): "And how hard it is for me to sing about it, I still sing - after all, someone will hear."
          For sim regards hi
          1. Corrosion inhibitor
            Corrosion inhibitor 1 December 2022 14: 48
            +2
            What are you sending me evil smileys without any restrictions and standards. I know what it's about. They ruined the NK-93 aircraft engine. They simply didn’t show it to Putin in 2008 at the exhibition - and that’s it, the most unique work of several decades, people’s lives, and the future of our aviation industry was flushed down the toilet ...
            I told you about the chance. Not about opportunity. Frozen to death people in the past and in the future are worth trying again and again. We are all unified. Apparently your job is what you do.
            You just know one thing - the impunity and stupidity of a certain circle of people will inevitably lead to devastation of everything for which they were given such a lot of money. Your task is to have time to do what you think is right. This is the main thing, the rest is not important anymore.
            Write to Putin. Sounds like it, I guess. But, these days, that's just how it is. There is a chance it will help. Be objective, accurate, and outspoken in your judgments. Hot heart - cold mind. More, dear colleague, we can do nothing today.
            Here, all this was relevant 14 years ago and is still not in honor:
            https://argumenti.ru/society/2022/04/767466
            How many people are standing there waiting for their plan to be understood ... some kind of ministerial idiots who received their positions by inheritance, and not by the fact of services to the Motherland.
            1. K-36
              K-36 1 December 2022 16: 38
              0
              SW. A. Gromov. I sincerely apologize for the fact that in my narratives I was not able to accurately express the emphasis on the fact that all my angry emoticons are addressed exclusively to the profile bureaucracy (on which the DECISION of subordinate issues depends), and not to you personally (forgive me generously, if was misunderstood). Based on your answers in our dialogue, I am ready to shake your hand with a pure soul.
              drinks
              1. Corrosion inhibitor
                Corrosion inhibitor 1 December 2022 22: 38
                +1
                Yes, I understand for a long time. About your emoticons - too. You need to "carry" the address. You have spoken here - well. People will see it. Also, be consistent. Water does not flow under a lying stone, no matter how much you talk about it.
                I think it's time for us to end our dialogue. Comrade Rogozin is now in the Donbass, he seems to be testing various technologies, he did not specify. Also try contacting him. Military pilots also have full-time rocket launchers.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 December 2022 09: 26
    +1
    That's when the test batch will be tested in combat conditions, it will become clear what is positive, what is negative, then it will be possible to speculate about the "Vzor". In the meantime, it's too early to say anything, let alone criticize.
  9. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 1 December 2022 09: 27
    -4
    Quote: Bomb
    And for this they will pay with their lives 100 thousand. Russian soldiers.


    The reunification of the three Slavic peoples, new territories liberated from Nazism, the sovereignty of Russia, etc. - as a result of the Special Military Operation. The price is huge but worth it.
    1. igork735
      igork735 1 December 2022 10: 49
      0
      Actually, battletoads is spelled together.
  10. Postcode
    Postcode 1 December 2022 09: 31
    +1
    I do not think that it will find increased demand .... 1200 m maximum to the operator, that is, in fact, this is 600 - 800 m depth (range) of application. Offhand, as an option, perhaps, when conducting a battle in a city (settlement), look at the enemy on the reverse slopes of the heights ... that's probably all.
  11. cpls22
    cpls22 1 December 2022 09: 39
    +1
    If only he would stick out in the right direction when landing with the camera)
    700x700 meters at a height of 250 - it turns out that the picture is dynamic, and not 3 minutes. stable map of the area.
    You will have to watch everything in the recording, you won’t have time to notice everything on the fly. Although a quick glance at the battlefield can put a lot in its place.
    Especially if the copters are not available.
  12. Boniface
    Boniface 1 December 2022 09: 46
    +1
    Good topic! good
    To pick up a much-needed camera, you need to install a signal beacon - with the output of the mark where the “Vzor” fell on the same tablet from which the observation was carried out!
    Take How-Know hi
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 1 December 2022 10: 43
      +2
      The shell of the balloon is made of transparent material, a helium canister and a skein of strong fishing line + 300 grams of cargo. winked No noise, no need to look and reusable. Gentlemen inventors learned by heart, broke away from the people. laughing
      1. Boniface
        Boniface 1 December 2022 14: 32
        +1
        WELL, YES! A transparent probe with a camera can be launched on a fishing line! good He is Silent and Leska let go of 300-500 meters - with the wind the probe will fly farther from the launch site - and hang endlessly! But there is only one problem - dependence on the wind
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 1 December 2022 17: 58
          -1
          On the line?! Rybakov to operators. winked (Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment and, according to the site administration, it does not carry useful information.) I'll survive, EAT! laughing
  13. Prisoner
    Prisoner 1 December 2022 10: 38
    +1
    Well, here we go! Sawing from drones, if there is such a "sawyer", is more profitable than from this fart. In addition, this is not a replacement, but an addition to other reconnaissance means and, moreover, experimental. They can also be hacked to death based on the results of operation. Why raise a borax in a glass of water? request
  14. grandfather_Kostya
    grandfather_Kostya 1 December 2022 11: 21
    +1
    In addition, the camera can be reused if the scouts manage to pick it up.

    I had an idea to use the camera on the boomerang. And the entire cutting edge will look through in a few seconds, and will return back to the hands. And the fact that the picture rotates along three axes is a question for programmers and mechanics.
    1. Storog dvornik
      Storog dvornik 1 December 2022 13: 31
      +1
      Great idea + ... A camera / three-axis camera with a 360-degree view with a gyroscope + with digital stabilization, and the ability to adjust the viewing angle, place it in the center of the boomerang's rotation axis, then the issue with rotation will disappear - it will shoot from the right angle ...
  15. Radikal
    Radikal 1 December 2022 11: 38
    0
    This system is launched from a rocket launcher.
    What is meant? winked
  16. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 1 December 2022 14: 25
    0
    So let's say the flying eye is portable. Perhaps a good idea if you are in a dense urban area or in the forest and you need to look. This stray will be useful online.
  17. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 1 December 2022 14: 41
    -1
    Quote: hhurik
    Doubtful. A smart person learns from the mistakes of others, .. - from his own. Won the last war in Karabakh contributed a lot to development? Yes, no one even scratched himself, although a vivid example of the confrontation between the outdated Soviet-Russian military system and the advanced Western one.
    Imitation. There is only one imitation around - nothing can be fixed, everything must be burned. And start with a plywood marshal.


    What is the war in Karabakh? 2 sides of the conflict buzzed and fled to the corners after the call of the Dark One. From the advanced Western system, yes, there were Bayraktars, but Russia has long put a fat cross on this wunderwaffe hi
  18. Pankrat25
    Pankrat25 1 December 2022 16: 32
    +1
    Screw blue electrical tape to the copter with Ali Express and go.
  19. Sedoy
    Sedoy 1 December 2022 19: 09
    -1
    the system is launched from a rocket launcher.

    those. there will be a shot - to unmask yourself ...
    in addition, you can immediately say that this is a consumable material - it is unlikely that they will look for it, and they are unlikely to find it, in combat conditions ...
    there are big doubts that it will be distributed like grenades from a box and without an account ...
    given that there are "cameras, on a drone, ... both daylight and high-contrast for working at dusk."
    knowing our system, we can say that they will issue it on receipt, with a return, etc.
    or then you’ll have to unsubscribe why I didn’t find it ...
  20. Egeny
    Egeny 2 December 2022 06: 56
    0
    Quote: ROSS_51
    Have you been out of the trench for a long time? Lost?

    Did I offend you somehow?
    By the way, yes, recently in the rank of captain, did you serve yourself?
  21. BUMER
    BUMER 2 December 2022 19: 00
    0
    If the system is working, then in any way they scale to the entire front. Estimate, a camera flies from each rocket launcher and inspects the battlefield. The idea is good!
  22. Fangaro
    Fangaro 3 December 2022 08: 46
    -1
    MiniStarLink.
    Better than nothing.
    Well, if representatives of the customer and the contractor did not profit from the creation of this "complex".
    Well, the question immediately arose ...
    Will there be two options? For day and night? What about rain/snow?