Boeing offers to send GLSDB missiles to Ukraine

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Boeing offers to send GLSDB missiles to Ukraine
GLSDB product in flight


Over the past months, the Kyiv regime has been begging long-range missile systems from foreign partners - and so far has not succeeded in this. The other day it became known that the United States is still not going to transfer operational-tactical missiles, but is considering the possibility of supplying GLSDB ammunition. At the same time, immediate loading of such weapons impossible, and it will have to wait several months.



Private initiative


The possible delivery of GLSDB missiles to Ukraine on November 28 was reported by the American edition of Reuters. Through his own channels, he managed to obtain documents from one of the organizations involved in the preparation of such plans. In addition, comments were received from unnamed sources familiar with the situation. However, officials declined to comment.

Boeing is alleged to have recently proposed to the Pentagon that they start producing GLSDB munitions and begin supplying them to the Kyiv regime. It is assumed that such weapons will improve the strike capabilities of Ukrainian formations and allow them to solve combat missions that are inaccessible to existing systems.

It should be noted that GLSDB products have so far been tested and have not yet entered mass production. Nevertheless, the Boeing company believes that it can arrange their production in the shortest possible time. With the soonest receipt of the contract, the first serial products will roll off the assembly line next spring. In this case, Ukraine will be able to become the first recipient of such weapons, ahead of even the United States.

The simplicity of the design of the new ammunition will contribute to the rapid launch of production. Products for Ukraine are proposed to be assembled from available components, in large quantities available in American warehouses. This will make it possible to obtain the necessary rates of production and reduce the cost of one rocket to $40, while at the same time reducing the overall cost of aid.


First test run

However, not everything is so simple. The development company points to the presence of difficulties and problems in the field of industrial cooperation and logistics, which can increase production times and negatively affect the price of products. In this regard, Boeing offers a new "economical" approach to production.

So, it is necessary to abandon the traditional search for a contractor capable of producing the cheapest products. In addition, the work of at least six subcontractors responsible for the supply of various components of the product should be accelerated.

Boeing's proposal to supply GLSDB products to Ukraine is still under consideration, and its prospects are unknown. At the same time, the future of such ammunition, which has not yet been able to reach the series and enter service with any army, remains in question.

To launch from the ground


The GLSDB (Ground Launched Small Diameter Bomb) project has been developed by Boeing and Saab since 2014. Its goal was to create a new ammunition for the ground forces based on available products in service with the United States.

The M26 rocket from the M270 and M142 MLRS was taken as the basis for the GLSDB. At the time of the creation of the project, these ammunition were removed from service and sent to warehouses. At the suggestion of Boeing and Saab, they could be used in the production of new weapons. The stock head of the original M26 was removed to accommodate the GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb.


The resulting product passed the first tests in 2015. Launches were carried out from a ground installation for various training purposes. As the tests continued, all the main characteristics were checked and new features were worked out. So, the possibility of attacking stationary and moving targets at ranges of 100-130 km was shown, incl. in different directions relative to the launch trajectory.

The development companies highly appreciated the GLSDB system and predicted a great future for it. However, despite all the successes in testing and the characteristics shown, this development has not yet found its customer. The US Army does not show much interest, and Boeing has to look for other customers. This time, they are trying to promote new weapons in the context of assistance to Ukraine. Whether this will succeed is unknown.

bomb on a rocket


The GLSDB ammunition is actually a rocket for a serial MLRS with a special warhead. This item is approx. 4 m with a maximum diameter of 227 mm and a mass of more than 300 kg. The tail section of such a rocket is the engine compartment of the M26 projectile with a standard solid propellant charge. With the help of a special adapter, a GBU-39 bomb is installed on the compartment.

Aviation the GBU-39 SDB bomb is small in size and has a limited weight. Its length is 1,8 m, the maximum diameter in the transport position (with the wing folded) is 190 mm. Weight - less than 130 kg with a 93-kg warhead. The bomb is made in a streamlined elongated body. On top of it there is a casing containing a folding wing. In the tail are the rudders that are laid out in flight.

Several modifications of the bomb with different means of guidance have been developed. In all cases, inertial and satellite navigation is used, allowing the ammunition to fly to a given area and hit a target with known coordinates. There is also a semi-active laser seeker. Both guidance options give QUO no more than a few meters.


GBU-39 bombs folded under the bottom of the carrier aircraft

The SDB bomb can carry two types of warheads of the same mass. The first is high-explosive fragmentation with 16 kg of explosive and a strong hull for breaking through reinforced concrete fortifications. There is also a simple high-explosive fragmentation with a 62-kg charge.

The GLSDB ammunition is based on the M26 missile, which determines how it is launched. It is compatible with serial American MLRS M270 and M142. In addition, the development of a special mobile launcher was reported, but it has not yet been shown.

The principle of operation of GLSDB is quite simple. The calculation enters the necessary data into the memory of the product, after which it is launched. The rocket part of the ammunition provides acceleration to high supersonic speed and rise to a great height. Then the "combat stage" in the form of a bomb is separated from the engine and carries out an independent flight to the target - like a regular GBU-39 dropped by an aircraft.

Ambiguous potential


While promoting their development, Boeing and Saab note its characteristic advantages. First of all, the ease of production and low cost due to the use of available components are mentioned. In addition, the resulting ammunition is compatible with existing launchers. It was also reported about the development of new combat vehicles.

The combat capabilities of the GLSDB missile are determined mainly by the use of the GBU-39 SDB bomb. Despite the new launch method, it retains all its features and main characteristics. The bomb is able to independently fly to the designated target and hit it with sufficient accuracy. Unlike rockets or ballistic missiles, the bomb is capable of active maneuvering. In particular, during the tests, the possibility of its flight with a 180-degree turn and hitting the target behind the launch position was shown.

Depending on the combat equipment, the GBU-39 is capable of hitting different targets. These can be accumulations of manpower or unprotected equipment, as well as various structures, incl. fortified. In particular, the developers of the bomb demonstrated the defeat of the reinforced concrete shelter for aircraft.


SDB swoops down on target

However, such a system has disadvantages. So, as part of the GLSDB, engines from M26 missiles, which have been decommissioned for a long time, are used. It is possible that not all such products are still suitable for use and are able to give the required characteristics. At the same time, the development of an improved rocket with a different engine has not yet been reported.

The reduced dimensions and weight of the bomb severely limited its combat load and reduced the possible impact on the target. So, only 16 kg of explosives were placed in the penetrating warhead, which is not enough to destroy protected objects. A high-explosive fragmentation warhead with a heavier charge, in turn, has limited effectiveness when attacking protected targets.

The ability of the GBU-39 SDB product to break through enemy air defenses raises questions. As it turned out in recent months, modern air defense systems are quite capable of detecting and hitting a variety of weapons, incl. the most difficult of these goals. Apparently, they will be able to fight the GLSDB system as well. In addition, launching and accelerating with the help of a rocket stage unmasks the launch position, which leads to a high risk of retaliation.

Unclear future


A promising GLSDB weapon system based on existing samples has been tested since 2015 and confirmed the design characteristics. However, the Pentagon is in no hurry to adopt it and order serial products. Perhaps, for one reason or another, he is not at all interested in obtaining such a weapon.

Having not received an order from the United States, Boeing and Saab are trying to promote their development in the context of assistance to Ukraine. However, even in this case, the prospects for the GLSDB product remain uncertain. It is not clear whether the American leadership will buy systems for an ally that his own army does not have. However, such a scenario cannot yet be ruled out - and Ukraine will again have to become a testing ground for testing foreign weapons.
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  1. +3
    30 November 2022 05: 25
    With all the shortcomings of this sample - to mess up, and quite on a large scale, Khikhly can use it.
    1. -6
      30 November 2022 05: 42
      Aircraft are needed for bombing ... Konashenkov has already destroyed it three times in Ukraine ... and even with our developed air defense, the use of such bombs from air carriers is unlikely ... C300 is on the alert.
      1. +8
        30 November 2022 05: 47
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        and even with our developed air defense, the use of such bombs from air carriers is unlikely

        Have you seen anything from the article besides the pictures ?! The bomb here is just like a high-precision warhead for a GROUND ROCKET!
        1. -14
          30 November 2022 05: 50
          There was a separate article about this bomb... smile in any case, it is difficult to quietly get close to the target and drop a guided bomb without detecting air defense.
          Some time ago there was a message that the S300 took out a plane of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with a rocket at a distance of 200 km ... so draw your own conclusions.
          1. +8
            30 November 2022 06: 10
            in any case, it is difficult to quietly get close to the target and drop a guided bomb without detecting air defense.

            what stuck you on airplanes? You have already been explained above that this is a ground launch. The Americans simply took a relatively old (during the Persian wars), but with good characteristics in terms of gliding flight range, the GBU-39 bomb and attached an upper stage to it to bring it to a drop height and then fly independently. The solution is elegant, taking into account the refusal to use aviation in the conditions of developed air defense. Of course, their interception is possible, it all depends on the air defense capabilities in this particular place.
            1. +1
              30 November 2022 06: 15
              Quote: Ka-52
              relatively old (from the time of the Persian wars), but with good characteristics in terms of gliding flight, the GBU-39 bomb

              2006 - not exactly Persian wars. hi
              1. +4
                30 November 2022 06: 22
                2006 - not exactly Persian wars.

                and what went on in Mesopotamia in 2005-2006 if not the 2nd Iraq War what Yes, Iraqis are not Persians, but Arabs, but don't be so boring wink drinks
          2. +1
            1 December 2022 03: 54
            Are you friends with your head?! fool
            To launch a GLSDB rocket, an aircraft is NOT NEEDED !!!
      2. +2
        30 November 2022 12: 48
        At least read the article. These are ground bombs. And the feeling is that the main thing for you is to leave a bravado comment quickly, and collect likes.
      3. 0
        1 December 2022 03: 49
        And what about aviation? They plan to use the M39 rocket to launch the GBU-26!
  2. 0
    30 November 2022 05: 33
    Ukraine is like a testing ground, running in ... And the Ukrainians still think that they are given something by the "Americans" just like that?
    1. +2
      30 November 2022 05: 48
      GLSDB products have so far been tested and have not yet entered mass production
      So they will test it in Ukraine, and on us!
  3. -10
    30 November 2022 05: 45
    For 40 green kilos in the USA they can only make a plastic mock-up in camouflage coloring and PR support about what the newest prodigy is.
    1. +2
      30 November 2022 20: 50
      For 40 kilofantiks, they will simply put together what is already in stock. There is a bomb, there is an old rocket to raise this bomb. Tyap blunder voila and the new weapon system is ready. And yes, if everything is from scratch there, only one bomb will be more expensive.
    2. 0
      1 December 2022 04: 00
      Yes, it’s not for nothing that you have the nickname Amateur! For $40, they will put together an M000 missile and a GBU-26 guided bomb. Here's GLSDB for you.
  4. +3
    30 November 2022 06: 02
    In addition, launching and accelerating with the help of a rocket stage unmasks the launch position, which leads to a high risk of retaliation.

    Yeah, and how are we able to answer within a few minutes after the start at a distance of 130-150 km?
    1. +4
      30 November 2022 11: 12
      Quote: Mitroha
      able to answer at a distance of 130-150 km?

      They will naturally shoot closer to the LBS. But this does not change anything - they shot back with a packet and left, doing 2 minutes at the most.
      1. -1
        30 November 2022 11: 30
        Quote: Negro
        Quote: Mitroha
        able to answer at a distance of 130-150 km?

        They will naturally shoot closer to the LBS. But this does not change anything - they shot back with a packet and left, doing 2 minutes at the most.

        Well, our defendants will also not stand on the LBS ....
  5. -3
    30 November 2022 10: 56
    So, the possibility of attacking stationary and moving targets at ranges of 100-130 km was shown,

    Why is this ammunition better than Tochka-U or Smerch? They can also be upgraded if needed. One hundred thousand dollars for hitting a target at 130 km at low speed and with 62 kg of explosive is very expensive.
    1. +4
      30 November 2022 11: 10
      The fact that he is and there is a lot of him. And accuracy, of course.
    2. +3
      30 November 2022 20: 13
      Quote: Kostadinov
      Why is this ammunition better than Tochka-U or Smerch? They can also be upgraded if needed. One hundred thousand dollars for hitting a target at 130 km at low speed and with 62 kg of explosive is very expensive.

      It is possible that ... everything, except for the weight of the explosives of the warhead. And as practice has shown, hundreds of kg are not always better than an accuracy of a couple of meters.
      As far as it is clear from the article. It’s just that someone thought of taking absolutely standard and long-existing components: MLRS and UB missiles, but used by different branches of the military, and getting a very interesting system for themselves, and very unpleasant for the enemy. So don't laugh at her. You have to think about how to do it yourself or make it. None of our systems can give such flexibility in hitting targets at different distances and directions with one launcher. 130-150 km is more than Tochka-U and Smerch. The defeat of moving objects, which none of our MLRS or OTRK can do. Well, the speed of reproduction - everything has been worked out, in fact, new - this is an adapter for connecting one to the other. 62kg ... Geranium-2 has 40-50, while customers did not complain about the lack. You can shoot down, as they say in the article, but again, given that this bomb can change its trajectory over a very wide range, then it can ... just fly around, not always of course, but the chances of shooting down such a thing will be less than a standard projectile MLRS flying along a standard trajectory.
    3. -2
      30 November 2022 21: 55
      Why is this ammunition better than Tochka-U or Smerch?
      Those that are assembled from salvage. Cheap. And nothing more.
    4. 0
      1 December 2022 04: 04
      Where did you draw "One Hundred Thousand Dollars" from? If the article is about $40.
    5. 0
      2 December 2022 12: 14
      GBU -130 kg and Tochka-U - 2 tons of mass. The difference is 15 times. The sizes are also the same. The better
  6. -4
    30 November 2022 12: 21
    Quote: Negro
    The fact that he is and there is a lot of him. And accuracy, of course.

    Are there more of them than Dots, Alder and missiles for Tornado, of which there are also many of them? Accuracy is something very unclear and depends on many factors that cannot be taken into account.
    What is the situation with the power of this ammunition, its vulnerability to air defense and countermeasures of guidance, the price of ammunition? He was not accepted into service in the United States - why?
    1. +2
      30 November 2022 12: 53
      He was not accepted into service in the United States - why?

      It should be noted that GLSDB products have so far been tested and have not yet entered mass production.

      Accuracy is something very unclear and depends on many factors that cannot be taken into account.

      1) What is unclear in this term?
      2) So this is the point of adjusted ammunition - to correct the influence of these factors.
      Are there more of them than Dots, Alder and missiles for Tornado, of which there are also many of them?

      Well, SDB under 20 has been done. Not much has been spent. M000 is still disposed of. Therefore, enough copies can be allocated for conversion. You are listing non-similar GLSDB in terms of system characteristics. Therefore, the quantitative factor cannot form the basis of comparison. The new invention of the Americans is more accurate and long-range.
    2. +1
      1 December 2022 04: 07
      The US does not need GLSDB missiles. They already have enough modern, long-range, high-precision systems in service!
      GLSDB missiles are for Ukraine.
  7. -3
    30 November 2022 13: 11
    The Americans do not make cheap weapons. So the proposal looks strange. There is rather an opportunity to set up the production of this missile surrogate quickly and there is a free site
    1. +2
      30 November 2022 20: 05
      In fact, for decades, to no avail, sawing budgets, and then in a matter of weeks making a new cheaper and more effective weapon from the spare parts at hand - this is quite in American traditions.
      Leads to a variety of thoughts.
      1. -1
        1 December 2022 12: 19
        Quote: Negro
        to make a new cheaper and more effective weapon in a matter of weeks from the spare parts at hand is quite in American traditions.

        Give an example, please, of cheap and effective weapons from the USA
        1. +2
          1 December 2022 13: 31
          A classic example is the GBU-28 anti-bunker bomb, which was washed down in two weeks, from the approval of the terms of reference to the first use in combat.

          But in relation to SVO, M1156 projectile tips that make them controllable, as well as JDAM kits for cast-iron bombs with similar functions, are discussed more.
          1. 0
            1 December 2022 15: 04
            Quote: Negro
            A classic example is the GBU-28 bunker bomb,

            let's get a look
            developer
            Bomb weight, kg (lb)
            Penetrating warhead weight, kg (lb)
            Length, m (in)
            Diameter, m (in)
            Fuse
            Guidance system
            Distance, km
            Price
            Carrier aircraft
            Lockheed-BLU-113/B, National Forge-BLU-113A/B
            2270 (5000)
            2003 (4,414)
            3,88 (153)
            0,36 (14,5)
            FMU-143
            Laser
            about 10
            $145,600
            F-15E, F-111F

            Both on, a bomb from decommissioned gun barrels costs $ 145 apiece.
            Quote: Negro
            JDAM

            The idea, of course, is wonderful. Quickly, I didn’t find the price. It took 14 years for R&D.
            Quote: Negro
            But in relation to SVO, M1156 is discussed more

            Let's get a look :
            M1156 cost estimated at around $20 per unit

            Normally so cheap, the tip for the projectile.
            The Americans have no cheap weapons in PRINCIPLE!
            1. +1
              1 December 2022 17: 19
              Quote: APASUS
              Both on, a bomb from decommissioned gun barrels costs $ 145 apiece.

              Quote: APASUS
              Normal so cheap, projectile tip

              )))
              You, I see, are not very aware of the prices of weapons. Yes, it's very budget friendly. On the tips, by the way, you indicated the published price of export contracts (with the Netherlands), which rarely has any bearing on reality.
              1. 0
                2 December 2022 10: 07
                Quote: Negro
                You, I see, are not very aware of the prices of weapons. Yes, it's very budget friendly.

                Budget, this is Chinese weapons, ours can also be attributed.
                1. +1
                  2 December 2022 10: 22
                  Chinese weapons are not so budget-friendly, you see. Like "ours". In the infamous Indian tender, the MiG-35, which was simply a mockery in the company of modern aircraft, cost on a par with the F-16 and Gripen.

                  And a shaitan-tip costs the same as one shot at the maximum range with an active-rocket projectile. Yes, one "stupid" 155 shot now costs like a Renault Logan. At the same time, the consumption of shots to hit targets with a tip is reduced significantly.
                  1. 0
                    2 December 2022 11: 31
                    Quote: Negro
                    Chinese weapons are not so budget-friendly, you see. Like "ours". In the infamous Indian tender, the MiG-35, which was simply a mockery in the company of modern aircraft, cost on a par with the F-16 and Gripen.

                    You yourself say that you should not focus on the price in one contract; you yourself give an unsuccessful example with MIG. It is not logical.
  8. +2
    30 November 2022 15: 34
    And who is to blame and what to do, and our traitors, VSMPO is still sending titanium for Voing, just shoot the traitors
    1. 0
      30 November 2022 21: 59
      VSMPO still sends titanium for Voing,
      As Dima Semitsvetov (actor Andrei Mironov) said in the film "Beware of the Car", "You are encroaching on the sacred! On our Constitution!"
    2. 0
      7 January 2023 09: 45
      VSMPO still sends titanium for Voing,

      Proofs to the studio!
      https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5249635
  9. +1
    30 November 2022 19: 33
    Profit on deaths and nothing personal.
  10. 0
    1 December 2022 04: 12
    Here is another "invention" on the way. And hohlandia is an excellent training ground to test this "invention" in combat conditions.
    1. 0
      2 December 2022 12: 20
      Great comment. Any ideas on whose heads these bombs will land?
  11. -1
    6 January 2023 06: 04
    I have suspicions that this ammunition is already in Ukraine. And it was they who dealt a recent blow to Makiivka.

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