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For the second day in Kyiv, they do not comment on the heavy losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Bakhmut area and the advance of Russian troops

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For the second day in Kyiv, they do not comment on the heavy losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Bakhmut area and the advance of Russian troops

In Donetsk, they confirmed the liberation from Ukrainian nationalists of two more settlements on the territory of the DPR, we are talking about Andreevka and Persha Travnya. This is stated in the message of the Headquarters of the territorial defense of the republic.


Despite the stubborn resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russian troops began to advance along the entire line of contact on the territory of the DPR, albeit without any breakthroughs so far, etc., but they are moving forward. If you carefully follow the messages coming from the front line, then the following picture emerges: ours are starting to put pressure more and more, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are forced to retreat in some areas, unable to withstand this pressure. Moreover, all this is happening with the complete silence of the Russian Ministry of Defense, which is limited to short reports about "repelled attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine."

In general, there is deathly silence in Kyiv for the second day, the Zelensky regime completely ignores the situation near the same Artemivsk, where a frankly difficult situation has developed for the Armed Forces of Ukraine due to heavy losses in personnel. Our troops took a number of settlements, moving significantly in the direction of Kurdyumovka, but they are silent in Kyiv, not a single representative of the political authorities of Ukraine has commented on this. True, Arestovich came up with something there again, linking together the capture of Artemovsk by Russian troops and the "split of Russia", but no one in Ukraine takes this clown seriously anymore.

Meanwhile, the advance is underway, the same Pershe Travnya and Andreevka were taken yesterday, the head of the DPR Denis Pushilin announced the imminent capture of Vugledar, saying that the situation in the city area is difficult for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, attempts to dislodge Russian troops failed. Near Artemovsk, the “orchestras” are fighting for Kurdyumovka, where the enemy has a rather powerful fortified area, advancing from two directions at once: from the south - the detachments that took control of Ozaryanovka, and from the north - liberated Zelenopolye.
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  1. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 29 November 2022 13: 00
    -32
    In Kyiv, they do not comment on the second day in any way / all this is happening with the complete silence of the Russian Ministry of Defense
    There are heavy battles, both sides suffer significant losses without much success.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 29 November 2022 13: 08
      +15
      In Kyiv, in general, the second day of deathly silence
      And there is silence in the graveyard .... What do the Nazis want! The earth is glassy for you!
      1. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 29 November 2022 13: 52
        +13
        Not every TsIPsOshnik given to rise to the rank of colonel.
        1. ARIONkrsk
          ARIONkrsk 29 November 2022 16: 14
          +1
          Quote: Metallurg_2
          Not every TsIPsOshnik given to rise to the rank of colonel.

          Do not serve, but subscribe bully
          1. Metallurg_2
            Metallurg_2 29 November 2022 19: 12
            0
            Well, it's the same here.

            Sorry I'm not smart enough to write a long comment hi
    2. yuliatreb
      yuliatreb 29 November 2022 13: 10
      +10
      I apologize for the interest, you are a direct participant in the hostilities, with such statements or so just to blurt out.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 29 November 2022 13: 25
        +7
        He seems to be one of those who, during the coup, drowned for the bkbshny fascists in the Republic of Belarus.
      2. neworange88
        neworange88 29 November 2022 13: 28
        +11
        According to the situation around Artyomovsk (Bakhmut), which seems to be turning into Popasnaya 2.0.

        By the way, after lunch Andreevka (Bakhmut district) was also liberated by our soldiers. Information about this first appeared on the army chats of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and then the Russian military correspondents confirmed it from the scene. Thus, we can safely say that the defense line of the ukrovermacht, created along the Mayorsk-Bakhmut railway, has been broken through, which will allow the “musicians” to move from the south towards Ivanovsky (8 km from Andreevka). With the loss of this settlement, the supply of the garrison of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Bakhmut will actually stop. It seems that after this, the drapery of “independence defenders” from the city will begin, slowly at first, and then faster and faster. ...... Toward evening, rumors spread on the Internet that the “independence defenders” had also left Kurdyumovka, which is sandwiched between Ozeryanovka and Zelenopolye. Moreover, the fighting is going on in Kleshcheevka, the last defensive player, before Ivanovsky, the loss of which by the Armed Forces of Ukraine will mean, we repeat, the operational encirclement of Bakhmut. According to our military correspondents, "very bad days have come for the enemy south of Artemovsk."


        An even tougher forecast for the "independence defenders", in particular, was made by a number of telegram channels that are part of the Bandera General Staff. Independent officers, on condition of anonymity, said “sadness”: “We are expecting a full-fledged collapse of the defense of Bakhmut one of these days. It is impossible to hold back the Wagnerites, who are advancing under the cover of Russian artillery.


        . Zaluzhny ordered to seize NATO medical armored vehicles intended for the evacuation of the wounded from military doctors of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Now they carry ammunition and use them as armored personnel carriers. Even on the way back, they don’t pick up “three hundredths”, since the BP warehouses and hospitals are located in different parts of the city. For this reason, in the 30th Motorized Brigade alone, on November 26-27, losses in positions amounted to more than 150 fighters who were left to die in the trenches. According to the latest information, Zaluzhny, following Zelensky’s command not to surrender Bakhmut under any circumstances, transferred Self-propelled guns and towed howitzers of units of the 53rd and 57th brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. As “cannon fodder”, the 112th detachment of the territorial defense was transferred here from the Kyiv region, which belongs to the Zelensky reserve and was formed exclusively for the defense of Kyiv. Thus, Bakhmut can easily become a funnel into which the best military formations will be sucked in in a futile attempt to turn the tide of the battle in favor of an independent army.

        https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/353746/
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 November 2022 14: 00
        +2
        Quote: yuliatreb
        I apologize for the interest, you are a direct participant in the hostilities, with such statements or so just to blurt out.

        There were only three people from the Donbass on the site who fought, two were banned until the SVO, one returned but does not want to go to the site yet.
    3. credo
      credo 29 November 2022 13: 20
      +4
      It is possible that this silence is the result of a double strike on military and civilian targets delayed by us for nine months at the front and in the rear.

      Life has shown that the country's leadership either hovered in the clouds, hoping for the rise of the population of Ukraine to fight the Kyiv regime with the beginning of the NVO, or expected to agree with the Kyiv regime itself, assuming that it was independent.
      Neither one nor the other happened, and the "civilized world" wants the continuation of "spectacles and a banquet" on the fronts of the NWO.

      So, until the enemy has come to his senses, it is necessary to continue to iron the Armed Forces of Ukraine and critical infrastructure to bring the enemy to demoralization, and infrastructure to disposal. soldier
      1. neworange88
        neworange88 29 November 2022 18: 44
        +1
        Quote: credo
        It is possible that this silence is the result of a double strike on military and civilian targets delayed by us for nine months at the front and in the rear.

        Life has shown that the country's leadership either hovered in the clouds, hoping for the rise of the population of Ukraine to fight the Kyiv regime with the beginning of the NVO, or expected to agree with the Kyiv regime itself, assuming that it was independent.
        Neither one nor the other happened, and the "civilized world" wants the continuation of "spectacles and a banquet" on the fronts of the NWO.

        So, until the enemy has come to his senses, it is necessary to continue to iron the Armed Forces of Ukraine and critical infrastructure to bring the enemy to demoralization, and infrastructure to disposal. soldier


        There is an opinion about this.
        .Russia has also changed. In the early years of Putin's presidency, the country's armed forces were organized, trained and equipped solely to provide the country's territorial defense. But the Special Military Operation (SVO) in Ukraine demonstrated the unsuitability of such an approach for ensuring the national security of Russia in the XNUMXst century. The initial phase of the SVO was a limited operation with rather narrow tasks and goals. The key here is that Moscow only planned to demonstrate to Kyiv and Washington that it was ready to fight to prevent Kyiv from joining NATO and to put an end to the infringement of the rights of ethnic Russians in Ukraine. However, the initial presuppositions of the SVO turned out to be untenable, and it had to be completed. It turned out that the limited nature of the special operation led to the opposite of what Moscow had hoped for: instead of giving the impression of strength, it made Russia look weak.


        Concluding that the underlying assumptions about Washington's willingness to negotiate and seek compromise were fundamentally wrong, Putin ordered the military leadership to develop new operational plans with new objectives: first, to crush the Ukrainian enemy; secondly, to leave no doubt in Washington and European capitals that Russia will seek victory on its own terms; thirdly, to create a new territorial status quo consistent with Russia's national security needs. to defend Russia's territorial gains while it gathers resources, funds and personnel for decisive action. Putin has also appointed a new commander for Russia's forces in Ukraine: Gen. Sergei Surovikin, a senior officer who understands his mission well and has the mindset to succeed.

        https://inosmi.ru/20221129/ssha-258329363.html
    4. svp67
      svp67 29 November 2022 13: 51
      +5
      Quote: Trapp1st
      both sides suffer significant losses without much success.

      That is, you don’t consider the action of the allied forces to break through the URs and take Avdiivka in a semi-encirclement a success? Under Ugledar and Artemovsk will be the same
      1. oleg-nekrasov-19
        oleg-nekrasov-19 29 November 2022 13: 57
        +5
        The Russian Army took fire control of the route to Chasov Yar. ⚡️Now we can talk about complete control of the situation along the Ozaryanovka-Kurdyumovka-Zelenopole line. This triangle is strategically important as the height above Artemovsk, Chasovy Yar and Konstantinovka. But the main thing is the control of the APU supply route to Chasov Yar. Now it is under the control of the Russian Army.
        1. wladimirjankov
          wladimirjankov 2 December 2022 22: 55
          0
          it would be nice if it really was so, but are you ahead of the events. our guys are still far from Chasov Yar.
      2. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 29 November 2022 14: 42
        -6
        That is, you do not consider the action of the allied forces to break through the URs and take Avdiivka in a semi-encirclement a success?
        After the Kyiv and Kharkov regions, Kherson?
        1. svp67
          svp67 29 November 2022 16: 00
          +3
          Quote: Trapp1st
          After the Kyiv and Kharkov regions, Kherson?

          Yes, after that. You can't live in the past alone. From it you need to draw conclusions, understand where and what you made mistakes and move forward
          1. Trapp1st
            Trapp1st 29 November 2022 16: 12
            -2
            Yes, after that. You can't live in the past alone. You have to draw conclusions from it.
            Everything is known in comparison, but the rhetoric is alarming, we are slowly moving forward, grinding. It was the same last time, they grinded, walked and came ...
            1. svp67
              svp67 29 November 2022 21: 38
              +1
              Quote: Trapp1st
              It was the same last time, they grinded, walked and came ...

              Last time the length of the front was much longer, and the number of troops only decreased, now the length of the front remains almost unchanged ...
              1. Trapp1st
                Trapp1st 30 November 2022 09: 45
                -1
                Last time the length of the front was much longer
                Like a dancer's legs
              2. The collective farm is voluntary.
                The collective farm is voluntary. 2 December 2022 08: 45
                0
                Obviously, reducing the length of the front gives an equal advantage to both sides. The Ukrainians, unlike us, did not end the call for mobilization - there is an influx of "recruits" and we should not forget about the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who are on training. NATO bases outside Ukraine. In addition, we were never able to even partially interrupt or slow down the supply of shells to the enemy.
                So there are few reasons to be happy.
          2. Lako
            Lako 30 November 2022 12: 09
            0
            Yes, they will remember this Kharkiv region with Kherson until death. Like that grandmother in confession, remembering that she was dishonored by the hussars in her youth. It's sweet and remembering is sweet.
    5. Misha Mihalkov
      Misha Mihalkov 30 November 2022 09: 53
      +1
      Bakhmut: Armed Forces of Ukraine “two hundredth” are already tired of counting, “three hundredth” are left on the battlefield
      Weather, lack of forces, offensive to the music of "Wagner" prevent Zelensky's army from evacuating their wounded
      Yuri Yentsov
      The material is commented on:
      Andrey Marchukov Victor Litovkin
      Damp, dank autumn weather and a general breakdown make it very difficult for the nationalist brigades to evacuate their wounded in the Kupyansk and Krasno-Limansk directions. Their specialized military equipment is mostly wheeled and cannot cope with deep mud. It is simply impossible to go through the muddy fields to the places where the wounded are dragged for evacuation to hospitals.
    6. gromit
      gromit 30 November 2022 18: 28
      -1
      Wow, how vigilant citizens minus you in one gulp)
      Everyone knows that we grind hundreds of militants without loss.
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 November 2022 13: 03
    +4
    In Kyiv, in general, the second day of deathly silence
    In this case, the definition of silence as a grave is the most appropriate. Probably, even in the presence of terry cynicism, it is difficult to explain to your own people why huge losses are leaving the villages, when everyone is trumpeting about "victories" almost daily.
  3. Saboteur_Navy
    Saboteur_Navy 29 November 2022 13: 03
    -9
    Carry out the simultaneous launch of 150 Dots U on pre-identified targets, there will be a multiple more, and panic will be in the ranks of the armed forces
    1. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 29 November 2022 13: 12
      +3
      Quote: Saboteur_Navy
      Carry out the simultaneous launch of 150 Dots U on pre-identified targets, there will be a multiple more, and panic will be in the ranks of the armed forces

      As I understand it, you live or lived on the territory of Ukraine, as you would know that the Russian Defense Ministry is not in service with "Point U".
      1. Foul skeptic
        Foul skeptic 29 November 2022 13: 18
        0
        As I understand it, you live or lived on the territory of Ukraine, as you would know that the Russian Defense Ministry is not in service with "Point U".

        So they disappeared from storage and can not be used?
        1. Aleksandr75
          Aleksandr75 29 November 2022 13: 34
          +2
          And here in more detail - provide proof that they were removed from storage!
          1. Foul skeptic
            Foul skeptic 29 November 2022 13: 36
            -5
            And here in more detail - provide proof that they were removed from storage!

            I don't understand why I have to do this.
          2. Guran33 Sergey
            Guran33 Sergey 29 November 2022 22: 05
            +1
            In March, when he tried to pass off his points as ours, there was a message from the RF Ministry of Defense about the disposal of these weapons in connection with the expiration of their service life even before the Maidan
      2. evgenii67
        evgenii67 29 November 2022 13: 19
        +2
        Quote: SKVichyakow
        Quote: Saboteur_Navy
        Carry out the simultaneous launch of 150 Dots U on pre-identified targets, there will be a multiple more, and panic will be in the ranks of the armed forces

        As I understand it, you live or lived on the territory of Ukraine, as you would know that the Russian Defense Ministry is not in service with "Point U".

        How the T-62s are not in service, and the messes seem to have also been removed.
        1. Aleksandr75
          Aleksandr75 29 November 2022 13: 36
          +1
          Nobody argues about the T62 - they were officially shown. But point by point - I have no information (there is no official one).
          1. private person
            private person 29 November 2022 14: 11
            -2
            But on the dots, I have no information (there is no official one).

            And why do you think that we are provided with official information about everything that happens within the framework of the CBO? Even about the same T-62, who officially announced?
      3. Saboteur_Navy
        Saboteur_Navy 29 November 2022 13: 59
        +3
        If you would carefully watch the media, you would know that Russia has dofiga dofiga, more than in Ukraine, it doesn’t cost anything to remove them from storage bases, and even in the summer YouTube showed echelons with Tochka-U
        1. Aleksandr75
          Aleksandr75 29 November 2022 14: 07
          0
          I know the approximate number of U-points in storage and the number of missiles, but not 1 confirmation, not 1 video of the removal or movement of these systems has been recorded!
          1. Saboteur_Navy
            Saboteur_Navy 29 November 2022 14: 12
            0
            And I'm not talking about this at all, but about the blow, and add more Iskanders! The result is important to me, especially since Tochka is a formidable and powerful and accurate weapon!
          2. Saboteur_Navy
            Saboteur_Navy 29 November 2022 14: 15
            0
            Yes, and I repeat, in the summer I saw a video on YouTube, foreigners posted it, but I don’t know about the time of movement, but the train is Russian
  4. Jean Baptiste
    Jean Baptiste 29 November 2022 13: 03
    0
    Well, about Arestovich, they’re in vain, he guessed no less than Paul’s octopus ... But that the positive one went, although it’s small, it’s good, to be afraid of jinxing Kanashenkos.
  5. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 29 November 2022 13: 11
    +1
    Moreover, all this is happening with the complete silence of the Russian Ministry of Defense, which is limited to short reports about "repelled attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine."
    Well, it's better to remain silent than to speak. And so it is understandable that heavy battles are going on.
  6. Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 29 November 2022 13: 14
    +1
    It seems to me that the Wagnerites, precisely due to the recruitment of ZK, have now become able to turn such a hard pressure.

    And if that's the case, then that's great. They do not drive their own to slaughter, but they storm the result in the first place.
  7. Alexander Golotov
    Alexander Golotov 29 November 2022 13: 16
    +6
    You seem to be following the first day of events, especially those related to the war. All parties are silent and cover up information when things are going badly and vice versa exaggerate when things are going well.

    But honestly, while there is no significant progress, I don’t want to rejoice ahead of time. For practice shows that those cities and villages that we take with difficulty can then move back and start all over again. They already went to Artemovsk, they took Maryinka, I remember with what noise they showed Svyatogorsk, the same applies to the long-suffering Pavlovka. Then our aircraft were knocked out of there.

    At the same time, experts of various kinds each time talk about the depleted reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, that the most combat-ready units have been crushed, the morale of the military is at zero, and so on. But as practice shows, the Armed Forces of Ukraine simply have endless reserves, and morale is not so low, and plus 100500 mercenaries
  8. Bomb
    Bomb 29 November 2022 13: 27
    -2
    They comment while they say simply - it's hard there.
  9. Two
    Two 29 November 2022 13: 28
    -1
    hi The abscess is slowly growing! Ripening ... But in which direction will it break through?
  10. cooper
    cooper 29 November 2022 13: 51
    -6
    Well, how much longer does the Russian leadership intend to play "Zarnitsa" with the terrorist ukroreykh and his Western accomplices? Isn't it time for the Kremlin to finally throw off the notorious white gloves??
    1. private person
      private person 29 November 2022 14: 20
      0
      Isn't it time for the Kremlin to finally throw off the notorious white gloves??

      So they've been dropped a long time ago. Haven't you noticed partial mobilization and attacks on the power system of the Krajina? Or do you think that without the "notorious white gloves" the RF Armed Forces will tear the APU in a week?
      1. Aleksandr65
        Aleksandr65 30 November 2022 10: 48
        0
        For a long time there were no strikes on the infrastructure of ukrov ....
  11. oleg-nekrasov-19
    oleg-nekrasov-19 29 November 2022 13: 53
    +1
    The Russian Army took fire control of the route to Chasov Yar. ⚡️Now we can talk about complete control of the situation along the Ozaryanovka-Kurdyumovka-Zelenopole line. This triangle is strategically important as the height above Artemovsk, Chasovy Yar and Konstantinovka. But the main thing is the control of the APU supply route to Chasov Yar. Now it is under the control of the Russian Army. Work brothers!
  12. cpls22
    cpls22 29 November 2022 14: 13
    -2
    If Kyiv is silent, then this means that he expects to beat everything back in the near future. M.b. due to a counteroffensive, or a breakthrough in another place, diverting our forces from this area. Distracting the attention of your own electorate will also do.
    So silence is a sign of immediate action.
  13. Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 29 November 2022 14: 30
    +2
    Quote from cpls22
    If Kyiv is silent, then this means that he expects to beat everything back in the near future. M.b. due to a counteroffensive, or a breakthrough in another place, diverting our forces from this area. Distracting the attention of your own electorate will also do.
    So silence is a sign of immediate action.

    If Quiv is silent, then he is silent. No more.
    And he can count even as far as Vladivostok. Especially with "ammunition" from Colombia.
  14. Cayz kfgby
    Cayz kfgby 29 November 2022 20: 37
    -1
    Moreover, all this is happening with the complete silence of the Russian Ministry of Defense, which is limited to short reports about "repelled attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine."
    In general, there is deathly silence in Kyiv for the second day, the Zelensky regime completely ignores the situation near the same Artemivsk
    reminiscent of a joke about a husband - a judoka and a wife - a karateka: both piss swear
  15. polynet
    polynet 30 November 2022 16: 17
    0
    If they are silent and do not comment, then it suits them.
    1. cat hippopotamus
      cat hippopotamus 1 December 2022 15: 32
      0
      Yes, it does not suit them, they just have nothing to say.
  16. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 1 December 2022 15: 31
    0
    Perhaps the fascists are running out of steam, our guys in a deaf defense exhausted them and all their counterattacks in the first months of autumn did not really lead to anything. Only the ranks of 2-hundredths and 3-hundredths have replenished. Now that all their reserves have been ground, and we are replenishing our ranks with drafted and trained fighters. Perhaps soon the Bandero-fascists will not have easy times. I will not get ahead of myself, but I have high hopes for the winter company.
    Work warriors of Russia, may God bless you and good luck to you in military labor.