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How much is the union of Korea?

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How much is the union of Korea?The confrontation of two forces on the territory of the Korean Peninsula this year marks 67 years. The beginning of the division was the defeat of Japan in World War II, as a result of which Soviet influence began to intensify on the Korean Peninsula. As befits the second pole of the geopolitical world, which (pole) in 1945 was the United States of America, Washington decided to also take part in the formation of a new political force in the region. As a result, the northern part of the Korean Peninsula became de-facto pro-Soviet, and a part of the south - pro-American. In 1953, a demarcation line appeared, dividing the peninsula into two states along the 38 parallel. Subsequently, it was in Korea (in addition to divided Germany) that the confrontation between the two ideologies was most clearly manifested. Moreover, if the German confrontation ended with the fall of the Berlin Wall, the confrontation of the two Koreas continues to this day.

In this case, we can talk about the infinite number of differences between the Eastern civilization, to which the Korean people belong, and the Western civilization, to which the Germans belong. The representatives of Eastern civilization have a stronger ideological component, and therefore the confrontation between the two parts of the same people does not even think of leaving history. But is there a chance for the two Koreas to unite again, having come to a consensus decision?

Recently, the South Korean media published information that, it turns out, the South Korean authorities have repeatedly offered their colleagues from the DPRK to go for rapprochement. Such proposals were made in the framework of statements on the possible holding of bilateral summits. According to the statements of the former employee of the Presidential Administration of the Republic of Korea, the current President Lee Myung-bak 3 a year ago suggested Kim Jong-il to organize a Korean "mezhdusboychik", on which to try to develop a so-called road map for the rapprochement of states and peoples. The same ex-employee of the administration of the President of South Korea says that Kim Jong Il told Lee Myung-bak his “yes”, but at the same time demanded a “small” financial present in the form of 0,5 billion dollars. This amount was supposed, in the opinion of the DPRK authorities, to create a “favorable atmosphere” for negotiations.

But either the South Korean president suspected Kim Jong-il of trying to lead him to the brink of a corruption scandal, or Lee Myung-bak - the president was stingy at all, but the fact remains - no summit took place. Moreover, another round of political and military tensions between the two states began, the most acute point of which was the incident on Yonpkhedo, an island geographically belonging to South Korea. It was in November 2010. Then the South Korean troops decided to conduct exercises in the Yellow Sea, which is the controversial northern boundary line. North Korea warned its southern "partners" that it was not going to silently look at how the "enemy army" would plow in its territorial waters. In response, the South Koreans said that these waters are South Korean, and therefore Seoul will do whatever it wants in them. As a result, Pyongyang insulted utterly, said that during the exercises, Seoul launched a pair of shells into the territory of the DPRK. After that, the North Korean troops began, no less than a few, the shelling of the Yonpyeongo island, as a result of which two marines of South Korea were killed and several dozen were injured. South Koreans did not remain in debt and replied to Pyongyang with retaliatory shelling. The situation is at a standstill. Recall that for the friendship of the North Koreans asked "only" 500 million dollars. The word “all” was used because, as a result, both countries lost only one third of this sum during the conflict on Yonpkhedo (plus its consequences) ...

At the dead end, she remained even after Kim Jong-un ascended to the presidency in the DPRK. Initially, Seoul (and not only Seoul) thought that the new Kim was much more loyal to capitalist ideals than his father, but Kim the Third quickly dispelled all hopes of the South Korean authorities, stating that if the South will continue to lead “unfriendly policy toward the DPRK’s socialist conquests, then a nuclear strike will be dealt to Seoul. From such statements in South Korea came in a state of shock, from which for a long time could not get out.

However, today South Korean political analysts say that the situation in terms of the rapprochement of the DPRK and the Republic of Korea may get off the ground after the presidential elections in the South. If a more pragmatic leader is at the head of a country, he can take advantage of Kim Jong-un's weaknesses. And many people know about the weaknesses of this politician today. This weakness is associated with material well-being. Obviously, if the South Koreans talk about the summit again, Pyongyang will take advantage of the opportunity to receive financial preferences from them. But in the end, for South Korea to pay those same 500 million dollars is not such a heavy burden. Russia for 10 billion forgives - and nothing ...

But South Koreans, perhaps, would be glad to pay their forfeits to their northern brothers, but they only fear that they will not limit themselves to one-time demands. Well, what else did Seoul want? .. North Korea is a poor bride, but muscular. If the bridegroom (South Korea) does not give expensive gifts, it may even hurt ... It’s possible to call this North Korean blackmail, but blackmail is within the same family. Together with our Slav brothers, we also often butt, but then we understand that it is better to release gas with oil cheaper than to receive next sticks of unfriendly. No, for us, of course, no one from the neighboring states shoots artillery shells and does not threaten with a nuclear strike in words, but in our case there are problems.

It turns out that Seoul is still more likely to attract the North into its arms. Yes - you have to fork out, but you can call it promising financial investments. Of course, it cannot be assumed that the North Koreans will rush towards the southerners for the promises of multimillion-dollar assistance, but it all depends on how to present such assistance ...

If you put aside ambitions and switch to a language that is understandable to each other, you can attract even experienced socialists with experienced capitalists to friendship. And if Germany on mentality, as we found out, cannot be cited as an example, then China is quite possible. We learned how to find a symbiosis from the integration of socialist ideas with market laws. Are the Koreans ready to go for it? - The question is difficult ... However, in the matter of rapprochement between the two Koreas today, there are far more supporters of this process than opponents around the world. Of course, if the next “stronghold of the axis of evil” disappears from the map, then the Pentagon will find it much harder to beat out money to protect the planet from the “North Korean threat”, but from the point of view of economic prospects, even for the US, you can find a sufficient number of advantages.

Speaking of the Korean split, we can say that today the situation resembles a chronic sore, which everyone seems to have gotten used to, but which still spoils the view, starting to itch at the wrong time. Will there be enough strength and imagination to solve more than half a century of problems - it will be clear after the presidential elections in South Korea.
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  1. borisst64
    borisst64 1 November 2012 09: 30
    +2
    A similar situation was in Germany of the last century. Now the youth will not remember what the GDR is.
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 1 November 2012 10: 01
      +8
      Quote: borisst64
      A similar situation was in Germany last century

      Between Germany and the GDR there was no such fierce hatred.
      1. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 1 November 2012 14: 13
        +3
        there was no war between millions of victims
      2. LAO
        LAO 2 November 2012 00: 01
        +1
        Hatred cultivates the government of the DPRK in order to somehow distract people from hungry vegetation when normal life is near.
        1. Sergh
          Sergh 2 November 2012 04: 19
          +1
          Quote: LAO
          people from hunger when normal life is near

          Yes, in the same vegetation of half of China, there are as many in India, and not far from Vietnam ..., and with a dozen more, this is their whole mentality. So, no one there is surprised at this and does not pay attention to it, this is their southeastern sense of life. By the way, who traveled to the DPRK, they say, in principle, even nothing really terrible, not Dubai, modestly, but with taste.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 1 November 2012 12: 08
      +4
      The consequences are still felt. And between the GDR and the FRG there was no 50-fold gap in the level of incomes of the population, and such a technological lag as the DPRK and South Korea
    3. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 1 November 2012 12: 23
      +1
      yes thanks amerikosy, with their light hand it all happened .... shit ...
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 1 November 2012 12: 51
        +3
        A little more in detail. What exactly happened to their light hands? The introduction of the castun system of Songbun, for example? Or famine in the DPRK?
      2. Karish
        Karish 1 November 2012 14: 20
        +3
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        yes thanks amerikosami, with their light hand it all happened .... shit.

        Korea fought together and were equally destroyed. Only in one * ruled * the USA, and in the other the USSR and followers. Result on the face.
        In Korea, more than 50 years have passed since the war. Korea was fed by all the socialist countries. camps + USSR + China - but apparently not a horse feed.
        1. Anti
          Anti 1 November 2012 16: 32
          -1
          The best way to turn North Korea into a stable and secure state is to do the opposite of what is being done now. Economic sanctions should be lifted and more money invested in the country. If 60 years have failed, then in the future they will not be able to break them. And at the same time ordinary people suffer.
          1. LAO
            LAO 1 November 2012 21: 11
            0
            They will eat, prosrut, the top will buy various crap in the USA, and the people will get a muzzle. It would be nice for you to live in such a country.
            Change the flag! You are clearly not German - you are Russian! Among the Germans such ... does not happen.
            1. Anti
              Anti 1 November 2012 22: 47
              +1
              Quote: LAO
              You are clearly not German - you are Russian!


              Everyone who lives outside the former USSR is considered Russian beyond the hill, regardless of nationality.

              Quote: LAO
              Among the Germans such ... does not happen.


              sho those about them are known?

              Quote: LAO
              It would be nice for you to live in such a country.

              it would be nice to live with those who approve and support this idleness.


              Quote: LAO
              They will eat, prosrut, the top will buy different crap in the USA


              hde wrong?
              1. LAO
                LAO 1 November 2012 23: 42
                -2
                1 ... They think because the mentality is like that.
                2 ... It’s known more than you think, and they don’t catch words - you want to appear "cool", but in fact, g ... a ...
                3 where not so - in Germany, France ..., but in our countries - so!
                1. Anti
                  Anti 2 November 2012 00: 03
                  0
                  Quote: LAO
                  you want to seem "cool", but in fact g ... ah ... vnuk


                  and you are not a bummer? lol
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 2 November 2012 08: 43
            +3
            Sanctions there relatively recently. And for a very clear reason - nuclear weapons, and its tests. The DPRK has grandmothers and political capital on this, and is not going to stop them. The Chinese are actively investing there, but the DPRK is a very funny business. Just recently, the government took away a large Chinese plant that they liked, so that the Chinese broke out in an evil article in the official newspaper - which has not happened until now, although there have been cases. Do not shift everything to sanctions. Much depends on the system. And the DPRK system is as closed as possible.
            1. Anti
              Anti 2 November 2012 20: 43
              +1
              Quote: Pimply
              Just recently, the government took away a large Chinese plant that they liked, so that the Chinese broke out in an evil article in the official newspaper - which has not happened until now, although there have been cases.


              China, of course, is a key player and has actually made significant investments in the development of the DPRK. China also collaborates with the international investment group that North Korea created to develop ports, railways, light industry, and agriculture. I don’t think that, because of some kind of factory, they will take such a step, because it’s stupid to bite a nursing hand, what do you think?

              Quote: Pimply
              Do not shift everything to sanctions. Much depends on the system. And the DPRK system is as closed as possible.


              The system is in the sanctions themselves, as well as in all kinds of naval exercises in the region, which will not help the inhabitants of the DPRK and will not make the situation on the Korean Peninsula safer. But they will only rally the people around the leadership and at the same time worsen their lives even more.
  2. omsbon
    omsbon 1 November 2012 09: 40
    +2
    The unification of two completely different countries, although inhabited by one people, seems to me a very long process. Too much difference, both political and economic.
    It will take years for Korea’s bloodless unification.
  3. UPStoyan
    UPStoyan 1 November 2012 10: 00
    +2
    It seems that the North Korean authorities have long been living in their own world and are no longer able to return to normal without losing their dignity.
    1. rennim
      rennim 1 November 2012 12: 47
      -4
      Maybe better South Korea should come to a normal life ...
      1. UPStoyan
        UPStoyan 1 November 2012 13: 00
        +1
        And what is bad life in South Korea? People work, earn, use all the achievements of mankind.
      2. orfo
        orfo 1 November 2012 13: 03
        +1
        Are you a photo from North Korea ville? Ideology is one thing, another standard of living, which this ideology hinders to achieve.
        1. UPStoyan
          UPStoyan 1 November 2012 13: 29
          +1
          Saw. Full n ... c. As if in the USSR, the end of the 30s failed.
      3. Karish
        Karish 1 November 2012 14: 25
        +8
        Quote: rennim
        Maybe better South Korea should come to a normal life ...

        And your smartphone is probably Samsung, And the Hyundai machine, KIA, or some other? And where is Russia building the entire tanker fleet?
        South Korea is a technologically advanced state of the world. And when there was a crisis in 2007, mine. The people just came and handed over all the gold jewelry themselves (thereby paying off almost the entire debt of the country). Y. Koreytsev has something to learn and they live in an absolutely normal life.
  4. Larus
    Larus 1 November 2012 10: 28
    0
    Investing in future slaves sounds just like zapadnom.Zapad lives due to the fact that everyone without exception owes someone a thread, from this stress, suicide, crime and other nonsense associated with the "western way of life." They are still the parasites.
  5. Volozhanin
    Volozhanin 1 November 2012 10: 41
    +1
    borisst64,
    there, not only the elders regret the GDR, but also the young

    sin hangs on us, it was we who helped preserve this country of idiots in 1950
  6. davoks
    davoks 1 November 2012 10: 45
    +3
    http://ashen-rus.livejournal.com/ - вот нынешняя КНДР
  7. Beck
    Beck 1 November 2012 11: 19
    -2
    The main refrain in the article is that both Koreas are equal in humanitarian, moral, and economic aspects. And as always, the United States is woven. Type would not be the United States would have long been united.

    After the Second World War, South Korea was formed through free elections.
    North through the plantation of the stavlenik of the USSR and the NKVD.
    In the south, human rights are respected.
    In the north, totalitarianism is the most crude ferment.

    The war on the Korean Peninsula, in the article, is highlighted as a military conflict and is silent that the DPRK was the aggressor. Or again, here is the United States that ordered Kim Il Sung to move troops to Seoul to strengthen democracy. Yes, at that time, without the approval of Stalin, Kim Il Sung would not have gone to the toilet.

    Unification as a form of existence of a single civilized state is desirable only to the South. And some dictator voluntarily surrendered his power. A dictator, he is a dictator to spread rot for his people.

    The people of the South live the full life of a civilized state. Democracy allowed the South Koreans to boost their economies to the top 20. And where is the north? And then they started from the same positions.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 1 November 2012 12: 09
      +6
      Democracy in the South Caucasus is relatively recent, the end of the 80's. Before that, there was a military dictatorship. Although, compared with the Kimov regime, any South Korean dictatorship will seem like democracy.
      1. Beck
        Beck 1 November 2012 12: 25
        -2
        Pimply.

        Hey. I agree. But the UK went to democracy, through dictatorships, but it went and came. But dictatorship is dictatorship. A communist dictatorship, as in the UK, would never have admitted the situation that the South Caucasus has now developed.
        1. orfo
          orfo 1 November 2012 13: 05
          +1
          Quote: Beck
          I would never have admitted the situation that the South Caucasus has now developed.


          more?
          1. Beck
            Beck 1 November 2012 13: 19
            +6
            orfo

            Why more? The dictatorship of the SK does not allow anyone to power. The whole country was turned into a single collective farm. Asks for both financial and food assistance from other countries. If you don’t give a brandishing atomic club. All this in the UK is not.
            1. Karish
              Karish 1 November 2012 14: 28
              +7
              Quote: Beck
              The dictatorship of the UK does not allow anyone to power

              Yes, call everything by their proper names, eo is no longer just a dictatorship, it is the monarchy of the KIM dynasty. Monarchy at its worst.
              1. Beck
                Beck 1 November 2012 15: 00
                +1
                Karish.

                I apologize. Did not finish, did not finish.

                Of course, the Kimov monarchy. And not just a monarchy, but a tyrannical monarchy. And her cheers-patriots put the site on a par with civilized countries. And according to one criteria they evaluate.
            2. orfo
              orfo 1 November 2012 18: 00
              +1
              I really thought that you would say something about the South Caucasus, but yes, a dependent with a baton ... Although I saw a video where the elder was watching a "modern" furnished apartment, I generally keep quiet about those who flee this country.
        2. brr77
          brr77 1 November 2012 19: 33
          +2
          Something in your native Land of democracy and Comrade Beck does not smell, or now you need to turn to: "O greatest, beacon ... etc ...
          1. Beck
            Beck 2 November 2012 09: 34
            +1
            Quote: brr77
            Something in your native country, democracy and does not smell comrade Beck


            And for all the time I’ve been on the site, I’ve ever said that Kazakhstan has flourishing democracy. We do not have the democracy that exists in the West.
      2. Beck
        Beck 1 November 2012 14: 55
        +3
        Pimply.

        Here's how it goes? You gave a comment, I also answered. The meanings, if not word for word, are the same. You said that there is no worse dictatorship of the UK. I confirmed. Plus for you. Mene for the same minus.

        This is probably for me already automatically, cheers, patriots, put. As they see the author and Anubis and put. Over one day from the lieutenant to the ministry corporal demoted. Yes, I agree generally to go without shoulder straps, civilian.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 2 November 2012 08: 44
          +1
          How deceiving is nature, said the hedgehog, getting down from a cactus (s)
          1. Beck
            Beck 2 November 2012 09: 22
            +1
            Pimply.

            Here I was an anti-Semite, I would show you. Because anti-Semites find one reason in everything.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 2 November 2012 09: 48
              0
              8) Yes, yes, yes, and I'm talking about the same 8)))))
  8. zemlyak
    zemlyak 1 November 2012 12: 01
    +5
    I think the unification of Korea is unprofitable for China or Japan or other countries in this region, either for political or economic reasons. After all, a powerful player will appear on the economic map of the world, capable of seriously pushing its neighbors (Japan Singapore Malaysia, etc.) due to the cheapness of the northern labor force, and even China will not be delighted with the newly appeared competitor Korean quality The quality of the goods produced is a cut above the Chinese "gross product" .imagine Daewoo Nexia at the price of the VAZ "seven". dreams, dreams ... By the unification of Korea, the United States, China, Russia, Japan will lose the opportunity to conduct their behind-the-scenes political fuss, constant negotiations in the format two plus two, six minus four (I'm exaggerating) , the head is dizzy from these schemes.The DPRK in the Far East is Palestine in the Middle East, everyone is fishing in troubled waters, what politicians will do, the former presidents acting as all kinds of intermediaries and earning their ratings on this and not only, and losing leverage No one wants pressure in the face of North and South Korea on their geopolitical opponents in this region ... If there were no Palestinians Iny and North Korea, then they should be invented, these political offshore companies for laundering political capital. I think so.
  9. Lucky
    Lucky 1 November 2012 12: 12
    +1
    People are sorry in North Korea, it’s not life, but existence, judging by the information that was on TV!
  10. UPStoyan
    UPStoyan 1 November 2012 12: 14
    +4
    No unification is possible. None of the leaders of the DPRK will ever say that for 60 years they have been "foolish," and now they have decided to live in a new way.
  11. UPStoyan
    UPStoyan 1 November 2012 12: 58
    0
    rennim,

    And what is bad life in South Korea? People work, earn, use all the achievements of mankind.
  12. davoks
    davoks 1 November 2012 13: 11
    +3
    North Korea. Pyongyang







    1. Beck
      Beck 1 November 2012 13: 48
      +1
      Davosku.

      And what? Other than pro-gangbang photographs, nothing. Their parades are all colorful. Now I don’t know how. But before, civilian costumes were given out for parades. The documentary shots looked good. True, then these suits gave up.

      This was the case in the USSR. And there were also photographs of American homeless people with the caption - "This is how the American working class lives."
      1. davoks
        davoks 1 November 2012 13: 59
        +4
        These are photos taken by our Russian student who studied at the University of Pyongyang. The address of his LiveJournal is written in the photographs themselves
  13. Wertynskiy
    Wertynskiy 1 November 2012 13: 49
    +5
    Why is everyone fixated on the economic comparison of the two countries? Yes, this is important, but it is also important that North Korea is a country that has decided to go its own way of existence, in conditions of maximum opposition. This country has not had a single day of calm life, and practically zero support from the 90s from Russia and China. While the "economic miracle" of South Korea is largely based on external financial injections from the United States and Japan.
    1. Beck
      Beck 1 November 2012 13: 58
      -4
      Vertinsky

      Your path is certainly good. But you need to look around. There is no one on this path. Nor the USSR. neither Eastern Europe nor China (there is a market economy).

      No opposition would have been without waving Pyongyang nuclear weapons. Do not lead militaristic rhetoric. Do not attack him at one time in the south. Guadalupe won’t wave and nobody is opposing it.

      After the war, the Marshall Plan, economic aid, spread to everyone. Who wanted it and refused. USSR, Eastern Europe, China and North Korea including. Why now poke a finger at someone.
      1. Wertynskiy
        Wertynskiy 1 November 2012 18: 11
        +1
        Quote: Beck
        Your path is certainly good. But you need to look around. There is no one on this path. Nor the USSR. neither Eastern Europe nor China (there is a market economy).

        The whole world has now climbed a staggering skyscraper called the American dollar, and we climbed there with China. But they are not. So we were left alone. The whole world has obeyed the hegemony of the United States, but they are not. The whole world as an idiot only thinks about consumption and money, but they do not. They certainly have plenty of troubles, but at least the experience of their country is very interesting.
        But when this skyscraper called the "American Dollar" collapses, it is quite possible that only they will remain afloat with their "miserable" economy. Because, let it be known to you that they satisfy all their needs for 99% of their own resources.
        1. Beck
          Beck 1 November 2012 18: 34
          +3
          Quote: Wertynskiy
          The whole world has now climbed a staggering skyscraper called the American dollar, and we climbed there with China. But they are not.


          As climbed and gets down. America itself did not ask anyone. It was her ruined Europe that she asked not to carry gold bullion over the scales and oceans in mutual settlements. It is possible that in 20-30 years the whole world will climb into the yuan, as it will turn out to be the strongest currency.

          And this preconditioned world of consumption, as if imposed by the United States. Yes, the world began to consume as our ancestors got off the trees, then the USA was still gone. And since then people consume and consume everything. Well, how without it. Clothing is needed, food is needed, cars are needed. Everything is needed to live.
          1. brr77
            brr77 1 November 2012 19: 42
            0
            I, of course, wildly apologize dear Beck, but we are consuming now, but what can you tell me? By occupation, I am engaged in food products, more specifically in the meat processing industry (sausages, smoked meats). So, with all the shortcomings of the USSR, SAFETY of the food industry was on the 1st mets. Although there wasn’t such an abundance as now, but in 80% it was a high-quality natural product. But now, continuous additives improvers, etc., sausage below 300 rubles is a complete crap. and THIS is about 50% of the market. So Plenty of goods does not mean GOOD!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 2 November 2012 08: 51
              +1
              How to say, how to say ...
              Indigo carmine, tartrazine, methyl violet, rhodamine C and fuchsin acid are all synthetic food colors that were used in the USSR, for example.

              list of food additives allowed in the USSR (SanPin No. 1923-78, from 29.09. 1978)

              1. ACIDS, BASES, SALTS
              Sodium nitrite (sodium nitrite)
              Potassium nitrate or sodium (nitrate, nitrate)
              Ascorbic acid
              Sodium ascorbic acid (ascorbate)
              Tartaric (d-tartaric) acid, d-, 1-tartaric acid
              Tartrate (tartrate) sour potassium (cremortartar)
              Potassium tartrate sodium (tartrate)
              Potassium hydroxide (potassium hydroxide)
              Sodium hydroxide (caustic soda)
              Lemon acid
              Sodium citrate, potassium (citrates)
              Magnesium Citrate (Citrate)
              Metavinic acid
              Lactic acid (d-, l-)
              Potassium lactate, sodium (lactates)
              Potassium formate (formate)
              Calcium formate (formate)
              Calcium sulfate (gypsum)
              Sodium thiosulfate (hyposulfite)
              Hydrochloric acid
              Carbon dioxide
              Ammonium carbonate (carbonate)
              Potassium carbonate (carbonate)
              Calcium carbonate (carbonate), chalk
              Sodium carbonate (carbonate)
              Sodium bicarbonate (bicarbonate), baking soda
              Acetic acid
              Calcium Acetate (Acetate)
              Potassium Ferrocyanide (Yellow Blood Salt)
              0-phosphoric acid
              Sodium Phosphate

              There are 13 points, but the comment cuts me. And the first one is not over
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 2 November 2012 08: 46
            0
            Although the yuan is trying to become a regional currency - and has become de facto - much more unstable.
        2. LAO
          LAO 1 November 2012 21: 40
          0
          When this skyscraper collapses ????????????????????????????????????!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 2 November 2012 08: 51
            +1
            Better not to fall. Forgot what happened when he rocked a little beyond the usual?
        3. View
          View 1 November 2012 21: 44
          +3
          Somehow they’re succumbing to their needs.


          North Korea announced a change in the requirements for minimum growth of draftees. It is reduced from 145 to 142 centimeters.

          "Now there are a lot of undersized young people who do not meet the previous growth requirements," a spokesman for the DPRK military department said. Young people born in the mid-1990s, when famine caused by drought hit the DPRK, now fall under the draft.

          Another problem for the Korean People's Army is the lack of conscripts. The fact is that at that time infant mortality was high, and the birth rate was at a very low level, Interfax reports.
        4. Pimply
          Pimply 2 November 2012 08: 47
          0
          I recommend starting to study economics.
    2. UPStoyan
      UPStoyan 1 November 2012 14: 00
      0
      Yes, they themselves invent enemies at every turn. We need to come up with some excuse for the people, and here they are talking about the bloodthirsty enemies around. Nobody is going to capture them, especially in South Korea.
      1. Wertynskiy
        Wertynskiy 1 November 2012 18: 15
        0
        So they have it so that there are enemies all around, they don’t need to invent anything. Not so long ago on this site was a robust article about South Korea. and so, it turns out that part of the South Korean youth not only does not hate the North, but even sympathizes with the leadership of North Korea for pursuing their own independent politics, while South Korea is the obedient dog of the United States. Read, very useful reading. It turns out that people are not only a pupil, money and circuses are needed!
        1. newFeofan
          newFeofan 1 November 2012 21: 25
          +1
          Young people will always sympathize with what they have never seen. Yes, and it’s hard not to sympathize with a beautiful fiction, your idea, compiled from stories, articles and books. Imagination draws such pictures, take a look! Therefore, for example, our younger generation of the USSR sees almost a paradise on earth.
          In addition, it is always easy to sympathize with revolutionaries or independent communists sitting in a warm apartment at a good computer and eating a sandwich with a cheap sausage. You see, people having satisfied all their material needs begin to lazily think about how good it is to have a national idea, for example. But it’s worth tearing out at least some of the modern blessings from their hands, as there is no trace of thinking about great ideas, of course, there are really convinced people who are ready to die for their dreams, but most will gladly exchange calls and slogans for a loaf of bread.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 2 November 2012 08: 53
          +1
          There have always been many "leftists" among the studios. A common topic, and far from today's. This is considered normal until a certain age.
    3. LAO
      LAO 1 November 2012 21: 59
      +2
      And how many Soviet injections were there? Where did they go? How many do not pour in there is a bottomless breakthrough. Without an economy, politics is idle talk and verbiage. All politicians promise better lives, and economists improve their lives. Think - why the USSR fell apart?
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 2 November 2012 08: 53
        0
        Recently forgiven Xnumx billion bucks. Because it’s really not possible to return
  14. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 1 November 2012 13: 50
    0
    Nah ... am I SK such an army?
    Nah .. I need someone SK?
  15. Havoc
    Havoc 1 November 2012 15: 10
    +2
    There is little information on the UK, it is mostly trumpeted that there is hunger and poverty, but look at the chronicles from the UK, people are well-dressed, and starvation is not observed either. The country launches rockets, it speaks of education, about the epidemic, too, is inaudible and then medicine works.
    With the unification of Korea, the whole world will receive such a monster, which in 10-15 years will be included in the top three countries, human resources of the north and technology of the south. So there will be no unification, it is not beneficial to Europe, the USA, China, and even Russia, not to mention Japan.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 2 November 2012 08: 54
      +4
      There is poverty. Real, homemade. People are dressed mainly in Chinese chirportreb. The country lives in a strange corruption-black market symbiosis.
      1. Havoc
        Havoc 3 November 2012 13: 24
        +1
        Quote: Pimply

        There is poverty. Real, homemade. People are dressed mainly in Chinese chirportreb. The country lives in a strange corruption-black market symbiosis.

        And you were there to speak so confidently about poverty, as for Chinese consumer goods, we have 85% of the population there, there is no black market there, very strictly with that. And we do not have poverty?
  16. mamba
    mamba 1 November 2012 15: 11
    0
    In the photo with the dog, judging by the carnivorous looks of others, the gastronomic issue is being resolved. And the dog thinks that if someone feeds in this company, then obviously not her. laughing
    1. davoks
      davoks 1 November 2012 15: 23
      0
      In the brown coat the owner of the dog is visible.

      1. View
        View 1 November 2012 21: 56
        -1
        A milk dog is kept
  17. davoks
    davoks 1 November 2012 15: 58
    0
    video

    subway entrance in Pyongyang
  18. davoks
    davoks 1 November 2012 16: 05
    +5
    subway entrance in Pyongyang. Video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSzOdkgjbaQ&NR=1&feature=endscreen



    By bus in Pyongyang

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9vNoug2ULA



    New buildings. Residential buildings

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVfdh1A6Pxo&feature=related



    Rugen - the largest skyscraper in the DPRK

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ihr8RHHfn8

    1. Pimply
      Pimply 2 November 2012 08: 57
      +1
      Rugen has been building 20 for more than a few years; they found money for this unfinished building only by issuing a license to the Egyptians for a monopoly in mobile communications. Behind the video - Senks
  19. Beck
    Beck 1 November 2012 17: 50
    -3
    And why did Dawo hang pictures here. On whose money these skyscrapers were built as if not from the money of that South Caucasus, Japan, China, the USA. And again a scumbag. Other cities need to be shown. Better yet, a village where peasants in shirts and straw hats manually work or work on aggregates for 30 years.
    1. davoks
      davoks 1 November 2012 18: 01
      +2
      These skyscrapers were built as not surprisingly with the money of North Korea itself. And this despite the fact that it is all in blockade and without resources and without money. When, during the life of Kim Jong Il, some street was not completed on time, then Kim sent tenants to the officials themselves in apartments until the buildings were completed. And what is the result? All houses were completed in a month

      here is the port city of Wonsan - something like our Khabarovsk

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0XZeFDBgAA



    2. mark021105
      mark021105 2 November 2012 15: 46
      +1
      Quote: Beck
      Better yet, a village where peasants in shirts and straw hats manually work or work on aggregates for 30 years.


      Can upload photos and videos of Kazakhstani steppes for comparison? Or Russian villages? I think there is ugly everywhere ...
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 2 November 2012 19: 32
        0
        Everywhere. But in the DPRK, the standard of living is really low, although, in recent years, it has grown a little - mainly due to the fact that the black market is actively working, and it was slightly let down
  20. DEfindER
    DEfindER 1 November 2012 18: 15
    +4
    Honestly speaking, I do not get tired of being enthusiastic about the people of North Korea, with all possible and impossible sanctions and isolation, they manage not only to exist, but also to be happy! The South, under the same conditions, would die out like flies in a year, or crawled on its knees to those who imposed these sanctions .. only a ban on trade would kill them ..
    It seems to me that the DPRK just proved to the whole world the superiority of socialism over imperialism. And imagine what a flourishing state would be if the borders were opened, and given their organization an order of magnitude higher than the Chinese, they would start working with them, whatever the economic effect, and even the cheap slave. force because money for North Koreans is not the main thing in life, there are things and more important than stuffing your stomach ..
    1. davoks
      davoks 1 November 2012 18: 23
      +5
      that street with skyscrapers was built in 1 year. In the same year we would have built one such house
      1. View
        View 1 November 2012 21: 54
        -2
        And trees grow on bones
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 2 November 2012 09: 05
        0
        Have you ever wondered how such construction projects are carried out, by what means and methods, and what they cost?
    2. Wertynskiy
      Wertynskiy 2 November 2012 00: 50
      +2
      I fully support! Something similar was said a little higher, but people there explained to me popularly that the stomach is still more important, everything depends on it! Oh, there are no romantics at all!
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 2 November 2012 09: 04
      +1
      I wonder why people love it so much when they hold it or someone else by the throat and strangle it, and take it for happiness. Masochism?
      Yeah. Socialism is Sweden, for example. In the DPRK, feudalism. With official castes (songbun), serfdom (attachment to the place of work) and other amenities. And 50-times the income gap with South Korea. And by the impact on the global economy ...
    4. voxpopuli
      voxpopuli 3 November 2012 21: 17
      +1
      Little Johnny, what is capitalism? This is oppression of man by man
      What about socialism? But socialism, on the contrary!
  21. Temnik1
    Temnik1 1 November 2012 18: 24
    +3
    The South Caucasus developed economically under dictators and not under democracy. And democracy (as elsewhere) surrendered the country to world capital.
    And he, in principle, FSU united Korea or not.
    They can also agree with the North as agreed with China in the 70s.
    They are even more profitable to deal with poor SC. Cheap labor force, iron order, good education.
  22. nekromonger
    nekromonger 1 November 2012 18: 29
    +1
    they are fleeing from north to south, and not vice versa. In our country, the mask is as different as another country. they were lucky with traffic jams - in 2 minutes 3 cars drove and this is in the capital !!!
  23. davoks
    davoks 1 November 2012 18: 55
    +2
    And also Wonsan



    Pioneer camp in Wonsan. By the way, our pioneers from Vladik are there



    Wonsana Port



    Hotel in Wonsan. The cost of a tour trip to the UK costs about 30-40 pieces. The more people in the group, the cheaper. You can fly from Vladik or from Beijing



    Wonsan

    1. voxpopuli
      voxpopuli 3 November 2012 21: 16
      0
      Where are the people in the photos? Why are the streets empty?
  24. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 1 November 2012 19: 17
    +1
    It seems that on the Military Review, spies from the DPRK wound up ... =)
    1. davoks
      davoks 1 November 2012 19: 23
      +4
      It's all on YouTube and Ashen in the public domain wink

      Speaking well about the DPRK, this is propaganda
      If we talk well about South Korea - that’s right
      1. View
        View 1 November 2012 21: 53
        +1
        Going to South Korea, you can see everything for yourself
        Going to the North, you can see what they show you. Those. Potemkin villages
        1. davoks
          davoks 1 November 2012 22: 20
          0
          And why don't you go to North Korea and see for yourself? What is in the way? No money for a ticket? Vladivostok - Pyongyang any tour operator has laughing
          1. View
            View 1 November 2012 22: 45
            +1
            И я смогу свободно побродить по улицам? Снять все что сочту интересным на фотоаппарат? Ага, ага ...
    2. Beck
      Beck 2 November 2012 09: 29
      +2
      Quote: Cosmonaut
      It seems that on the Military Review, spies from the DPRK wound up ... =)


      No need to say. Photos hung with gloss. And if you flip the photos there 90% of socialist feudalism.
  25. LAO
    LAO 1 November 2012 21: 27
    -2
    If anyone has read the latest news about the DPRK, then you can clearly see signs of "decay of the top." Purchases of elite goods for the ruling elite. The lack of a developed industry and the actual hunger of the population are combined with an increase in military ambitions and tougher repression.
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 2 November 2012 06: 12
      +1
      Quote: LAO
      If anyone has read the latest news about the DPRK, then you can clearly see signs of "decay of the top"

      Let's say I also read, but more often pay attention to the ownership of the newspaper or resource. The same edition obseraet both Russia and China, and it does not forget to interfere with your Ukraine with garbage, it’s time to look back, who and where you are selling fresh "proven" sources. Trusting you are our ...
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 2 November 2012 09: 08
      0
      But what, this was not before this?
  26. View
    View 1 November 2012 21: 52
    0
    Here are interesting links for North Korea
    http://tema.ru/travel/north-korea-1
    http://tema.ru/travel/north-korea-2
    http://tema.ru/travel/north-korea-3
    http://tema.ru/travel/north-korea-4

    Save and save, Lord! wassat
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 2 November 2012 06: 33
      0
      Quote: View
      Save and save, Lord!

      Viv, I didn’t understand, did you leave the forest or was you born behind a fence? What you were so surprised at, it became even funny for me, you still haven’t seen summer at all worse in the USSR, come to me in Siberia, I’ll take you wherever you want, only in that case you’ll want to grab your armor with a helmet ..., then you’ll sigh differently, yes, you can take this photographer with you, which is with tema.ru, do not forget to throw diapers in his backpack. Look around in your swamp first. Oh yes, I completely forgot about the main thing, but how old are you, son?
      1. View
        View 2 November 2012 12: 03
        +1
        I'm 38, and how old are you, dad? smile Write again, I wanted to say something, otherwise the confusion is complete request
  27. studentmati
    studentmati 1 November 2012 22: 54
    +2
    I want to go to North Korea, to a country where there is no chaos, where there is tomorrow.
    Even if it is virtual, but the head does not hurt: how to find a "zhrachka", how to repay a loan, and so that tomorrow you will not be fired from work, "because". And even more, I want my chosen Emperor to provide all this minimum for the taxes I paid. Probably waiting in vain?

    And what is my error? Please comment if you are minus.
    1. View
      View 1 November 2012 23: 00
      +2
      Ek pins you stop

      I didn’t set the minus, but I will comment smile

      SK is not the best country for finding bugs

      You don’t need to repay the loan, because the great Juche will decide for you how many pairs of boots you will need for life and in general he should know what your material needs are

      You can be "fired" from your job if you cry not well enough when the next Emperor dies, suffering from obesity with starving people

      And who told you that you will choose the Tsar? Slaves are not allowed to choose
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 1 November 2012 23: 06
        +1
        He pins in full, because the adult is in this mode. You didn’t minus who don’t know. I fully agree with your arguments. Plus. And his last sentence in the commentary was meant by our Russian Sovereign of the 10s model of the second millennium.
      2. DEfindER
        DEfindER 2 November 2012 10: 16
        +1
        Quote: View
        You don’t need to repay the loan, because the great Juche will decide for you how many pairs of boots you will need for life and in general he should know what your material needs are


        But with the capitalists, they’ll give you shit that will fall apart in a week, and normal boots cost so much that only those who know how to cheat and lie well are able to! They even came up with a name for scammers - a businessman ..
        In Korea, the leader represents the interests of the people, and in the same states the leader represents the interests of an oligarchy which does not give a damn about the people, for them it is only a means of enrichment ..
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 2 November 2012 11: 28
          +2
          There is no socialism in Korea, but there is a completely new feudalism. The leader does not represent the interests of the people, but the interests of certain elites. Tell me, for example, how does the Songbun caste system fit in with the "nationality"? Or the inability to move to another job?
        2. View
          View 2 November 2012 12: 04
          +2
          Keep taking as prescribed smile
          Everything that falls apart is made in "sysilistic" China wink
  28. Islam
    Islam 2 November 2012 20: 17
    0
    judging by the name - unification will cost about 30 million human lives
  29. voxpopuli
    voxpopuli 3 November 2012 21: 14
    +1
    LG, Samsung, Hyundai and KIA need to move production to the North and then they will enslave the world. Joke hi
  30. Ignat
    Ignat 7 February 2013 18: 05
    0
    I'm not kidding. it is true and right decision