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The Russian Army or the Armed Forces of Ukraine: who is better prepared for the winter campaign

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The Russian Army or the Armed Forces of Ukraine: who is better prepared for the winter campaign
Source: Fighterbomber telegram channel



"General Frost"


Hitler and Napoleon had already burned themselves in the harsh Russian winter. The notorious "General Frost" seriously complicated the offensive impulse of the invaders. And now the Armed Forces of Ukraine are forced to be content with a frozen front - the nationalists have neither the strength nor the opportunity to move east. At the same time, the cold does not choose its victims, and the Russian troops are similarly exposed to all the "charms" of the winter campaign.

Winter seriously transforms the tactics, and sometimes the strategy of warfare. The Armed Forces of Ukraine postponed the offensive several times due to weather conditions. It rained in late autumn - it was impossible to raise into the air, let alone Aviation, and even reconnaissance drones. There are also supply issues. Judging by the footage posted by the nationalists, the vaunted tactical boots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are completely unsuitable for impassable mud in trenches and trenches. Partially help shoe covers worn on socks, but only partially. It seems that the Bandera people fully felt that such a disease is a “trench foot”, first described by doctors back in the First World War. A forced sedentary lifestyle, humidity and zero temperatures cause symptoms of frostbite in the legs, up to tissue necrosis.

Interestingly, modern armies seem to have completely forgotten about such a disease - berets are everywhere in winter uniform sets instead of insulated rubber boots. Even the Scandinavians. The warmest tactical boots won't save you from spending days in knee-deep mud. Nobody counted on a positional war, like the First World War.

The reaction of the Russian regions is indicative, almost everywhere supplying their mobilized with insulated rubber boots of the "All-terrain vehicle" type. In them, the fighters are not as mobile, but the legs remain dry. Be that as it may, in the near future the relevance of the "trench foot" will not be so acute - snow will finally fall in the NWO zone, and daily temperatures will drop below zero. Although no one canceled the traditional thaw for this strip with slush.




Ukrainian trenches. Source: vk.com

Winter is a time when a fighter has to defend himself not only from enemy bullets and shells, but also from the cold. In summer, only the enemy can kill, and in winter, frost can also.

The armies advance at such a time very reluctantly and with heavy losses. Suffice it to recall the Finnish campaign of the Red Army. So it was in the 4th and 5th centuries, and so it will be in the XNUMXst. Historians argue that for a successful offensive in winter, one has to collect a XNUMX-XNUMX-fold advantage in manpower over the enemy.

Snow cover in the new regions of Russia is not as massive as in the central part of the country, but it can also bring a lot of inconvenience. First of all, now there are traces on it, both from passing vehicles and from infantry. For aerial observers, these are excellent markers of enemy movement.

By the way, about flying technology. The so-called difficult weather conditions become especially difficult in winter. The Russian army, which uses aviation much more actively than the Armed Forces of Ukraine, will inevitably face problems. Fogs, snowstorms, icing of the runway and the equipment itself can delay aviation at airfields for a long time. A long winter night also does not add combat effectiveness to Russian aviation.








Source: Fighterbomber telegram channel

To a certain extent, this equalizes the potential of the parties to the conflict in the air. In the same area, there are problems with unmanned aircraft, more precisely, with small-sized drones, almost without exception equipped with electric motors.

In winter, conditional "Mavics" with lithium-ion batteries will be discharged 30-40% faster, which means that the radius of effective operation will be reduced. Similar problems await the Russian kamikaze drones "Lancet" with electric motors. Petrol-powered drones, such as the reconnaissance Orlan and the Geran-2 kamikaze, are much more resistant to frost, for obvious reasons.

As soon as the dirt on the fields freezes, combat vehicles, stuck in the autumn mud of recent weeks, will come to life as expected. The advantage in technology is now on the side of Russia, that is, it could potentially simplify ground operations.

Special requirements


Winter makes special demands on the medical support of the army. Any injury during this period threatens with fatal consequences. For example, with blood loss, a person rapidly develops hypothermia, which in the summer is quite easy to stop. For example, an isothermal blanket. In winter, this is difficult - the wounded need to be evacuated much faster to the rear hospitals. Hence the burden on medical units.

In winter, the problem of dehydration suddenly becomes relevant.

Firstly, a person in the cold is less likely to feel thirsty, although in winter clothes he loses a lot of moisture with sweat.

Secondly, the body in the cold is in a state of permanent stress, and any problems with water metabolism can be costly.

An important problem in the winter period is the rotation of troops at the forefront. Constant hypothermia, even in a young professional soldier, can cause a whole bunch of chronic diseases, not to mention the mobilized, some of whom are well over thirty. As practice shows, sores at the front have a cumulative effect and do not immediately manifest themselves. It is important to take units to rest more often and provide appropriate medical care. According to Vladimir Putin, the number of beds in Russian hospitals is 38% occupied by the beginning of winter, which inspires hope for the effective work of military medicine.

Russian volunteers should pay attention not only to the supply of front-line soldiers with warm clothes and field stoves, but also individual heating devices. In winter, open fire and smoke can be fatal for fighters, so you can warm your hands and exposed skin with chemical heating pads. You can make such gadgets even in school chemistry laboratories. For example, rechargeable acetate heating pads or disposable ones based on copper sulphate, aluminum, sawdust and water.

Difficulties will arise only with home-made catalytic heaters using flameless oxidation of gasoline vapors on a platinum sponge. The latter option is only good outdoors, as its exhaust contains a lot of toxic aldehydes. All this can be purchased in shops of hunters and fishermen, but to equip the entire army with individual heaters, enthusiastic chemists will have to be involved.

Winter imposes special requirements on the camouflage of troops. The equipment is completely repainted, the soldiers put on winter camouflage coats, and if all the nuances are observed, it is even easier to hide from the eyes of the enemy in winter than in summer. At the same time, thermal imaging surveillance devices and sights become much more effective in winter. In cold weather, the air contains less moisture, which creates a kind of screen for infrared radiation in summer, which reduces the target detection range. The contrast of hot targets at negative ambient temperatures is higher, which seriously increases the "range" of thermal imagers. The main thing is to solve the problem with the rapid discharge of batteries in the cold.

In the liberated territories, winter manifests itself in different ways. If in the north it is as close as possible to the climate of Central Russia, then in the south it is much milder. In the Kherson region, the level of urbanization is lower than in the Zaporozhye, Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Accordingly, there are fewer buildings and residential buildings that can be adapted for shelter from the weather.


Source: chaly.rf

The main question is which army is better adapted to the coming frosts?

Over the past eight years, this winter campaign is far from the first for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Through the notorious ATO, the nationalists let almost the entire personnel of the army and national battalions through. Here they received the skills of the winter war. The British have already pledged 300 winter uniforms. But even Ukrainian commentators are perplexed - units or still sets, which are completely different categories.

There is every reason to believe that the huge masses of those mobilized in the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have difficulty with basic supplies in winter. This will be exacerbated by the blows to Ukraine's energy infrastructure. The destruction of logistics hubs, railways and bridges across the Dnieper, which the army has been waiting for so long, will become a uniform disaster for the nationalists in winter.

For Russia, this is the first combat winter in many years. Something will have to be remembered, something to learn already on the go. However, for Russia, frosts are a completely familiar phenomenon, especially for warriors from the north and east of the country, who have natural resistance to cold.

But in any case, the success of the winter campaign will depend on the timely and high-quality supply of the army with everything necessary, from winter uniforms to personal heating equipment. No matter how trite it may sound in the end.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 1 December 2022 05: 00
    +31
    The USSR reacted very quickly to the difficulties in the Soviet-Finnish War, despite the lack of managers and digitalization.
    1. andr327
      andr327 1 December 2022 06: 07
      +34
      Due to the lack of managers and digitalization. They just did what they needed, and did not create a digital model with a set of research works on the most rational and economically sound approach to solving the problems that arose at this stage of research ......
      1. Civil
        Civil 1 December 2022 07: 37
        +4
        I am just reading the memoirs of paramedic Mikhail Novikov about the Soviet-Finnish war. They were published under the USSR. Very entertaining. Let's see how the current ones get out and whether they will do it at all.
        1. dorz
          dorz 1 December 2022 08: 21
          +8
          The British have already promised to allocate ..

          In Ukraine, there is already a decision on the allocation by "partners and colleagues" of about 900 thousand sets of winter uniforms (Canada 500 thousand, England 250 thousand and others).
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 1 December 2022 09: 17
            -36
            Quote: dorz
            In Ukraine, there is already a decision on the allocation of about 900 thousand sets of winter uniforms by "partners and colleagues"

            Yes, we saw this form, it's not impressive.

            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 1 December 2022 10: 37
              +21
              cheers - this is certainly good, Boris, but judging by the equipment that they have been given to them so far, the photo is not at all in the subject .. because. Today they are very well equipped.
              1. The comment was deleted.
                1. 2 Level Advisor
                  2 Level Advisor 1 December 2022 12: 13
                  +17
                  Would you even think, Boris, what kind of photo you are posting as your proof .. a hint: the yellow ribbons are not ours .. but the diamond-shaped tank patch is ours ...
                  1. Sanguinius
                    Sanguinius 1 December 2022 16: 15
                    +10
                    Come on, come on ... THINK, this is not about Boris!)
                2. Hypertension
                  Hypertension 1 December 2022 12: 13
                  +9
                  Why is there a photo with our (Russian) captured soldiers?
                  Quote: Boris55
                  The Armed Forces of Ukraine are dressed according to NATO standards, not designed for our winters.

                  What "our winters"? Are the Armed Forces of Ukraine fighting in Yakutia or at home, in Ukraine, where the winters are relatively warm?
                3. Nesvoy
                  Nesvoy 1 December 2022 12: 26
                  +10
                  And why the photo with our prisoners? Such a mockery?
              2. Sailor
                Sailor 1 December 2022 16: 06
                +7
                I will say more, better than our soldiers and orders of magnitude better than the soldiers of the LDNR, my friend came from Kherson and said that in addition to clothes, food rations are better and first-aid kits are disproportionately better.
          2. Igor_Aretano
            Igor_Aretano 1 December 2022 09: 46
            -7
            Nothing, they will successfully plunder this too. They cannot steal.
            1. Nesvoy
              Nesvoy 1 December 2022 12: 29
              +9
              Are you talking about the case where the "VSU" lost 1,5 lyama from the warehouses with a set of uniforms?
          3. mikh-korsakov
            mikh-korsakov 1 December 2022 09: 52
            -12
            Well, Canada, I understand. And what did the British put themselves up to. In their understanding, frost is when the temperature drops below +10. But I remembered about tolerance. Apparently they will supply insulated unisex codpieces with antennae for binary ones.
          4. Pantsuy
            Pantsuy 2 December 2022 12: 54
            -1
            Yes, and our Anas fly to China in formation. Clearly, winter uniforms are brought in tons. There is definitely no one of his own, only hope for the Chinese.
      2. Barberry25
        Barberry25 1 December 2022 15: 36
        +4
        ironic .. especially considering that just what they did was not what was needed and the losses of the initial stage of the winter war and the overall unsatisfactory result were due to the loss .. you at least read history or something
      3. Alexior_Brante
        Alexior_Brante 1 December 2022 16: 14
        +1
        Let me ask you a question - what do you have against "digitization" and digital models? Do you even understand the essence of the technology and how effective it is?
    2. Ka-52
      Ka-52 1 December 2022 08: 13
      +8
      The USSR reacted very quickly to the difficulties in the Soviet-Finnish War

      nothing like this. The decision to adopt the PP was pushed through only thanks to Stalin. Conclusions on the tanks were not made at all. Organizational and command problems smoothly flowed away into the Second World War, and even there they echoed back to us until 1942 inclusive.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 1 December 2022 08: 41
        +9
        Quote: Ka-52
        nothing like this. The decision to adopt the PP was pushed through only thanks to Stalin. Conclusions on the tanks were not made at all. Organizational and command problems smoothly flowed away into the Second World War, and even there they echoed back to us until 1942 inclusive.
        Come on!!! I will omit the PP that I do not understand, and the rest is outright nonsense! Supply - equipment, uniforms and food were improved by the second month of the war, a month after the start of the war they developed shielding for T-26-28 tanks and by the third month they began to supply them to the troops! By February (the third month), they worked out the tactics of storming the fortified areas, trained and equipped the troops! As for organizational problems by 1942, without the lessons of the Winter War, it is not a fact that the USSR survived in general.
        So do not!
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 1 December 2022 08: 52
          -1
          Yes, just a lot of examples of literally lightning-fast response.
        2. haron
          haron 3 December 2022 13: 17
          -1
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Supply - equipment, uniforms and food were improved by the second month of the war,

          That is, you want to say that by starting the war on November 30!! (and even on the territory whose climate is well known) The Red Army fought in December and January with inadequate uniforms, food and other things !!
          TWO MONTHS!! And you still write "So don't."
          Do you know how long it takes a person to get frostbite and (or) die from hypothermia at minus 20 in PSH uniforms, padded jackets or overcoats and Budyonovka with lining? - hours, and with poor nutrition and fatigue, less than an hour. Is two months normal for you?
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 3 December 2022 18: 23
            0
            Quote: haron
            TWO MONTHS!!

            By the second month is ONE month.
            Quote: haron
            Do you know how long it takes a person to get frostbite and (or) die from hypothermia at minus 20 in PSH uniforms, padded jackets or overcoats and Budyonovka with lining? - hours, and with poor nutrition and fatigue, less than an hour.
            Have you ever seen a sweatshirt?
            Well, overcoats and even Budyonovka, especially insulated ones, were quite winter uniforms.
            1. haron
              haron 3 December 2022 21: 38
              0
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Have you ever seen a sweatshirt?
              Well, overcoats and even Budyonovka, especially insulated ones, were quite winter uniforms.

              )))) Saw)))
              Do you know what "every other day on the belt" is in a two-shift team for a perimeter of 6 km?
              Can you imagine winter in Nizhny Tagil? Below minus 20 is rare, well, three times a month. Usually minus 10-15, the breeze is true and the sea of ​​snow ... almost like on the Karelian Isthmus in December 39th.
              A two-shift is 3 times at the post for 3 hours, and reach the post for a shift, and that 12-13 hours "outside".
              Do you know what dress code was? ПШ, Cotton pants, felt boots, short fur coat, earflaps, mittens and on top of all this sheepskin coat. True, the sheepskin coat was passed from sentry to sentry at the post, it was hard to walk 6 km in it. Balaclavas helped only up to minus 20, then it was even worse from them when the beard froze on the muzzle. At minus 20, frostbitten muzzles and limbs were enough. Especially for those who tried to blat without a sheepskin coat, do not knit earflaps under a beard or stand without galoshes.
              You say overcoat and padded jacket, yes, in Budenovka, at minus 15, in the forest, in a tent, near a fire ... 24 hours, well, well.
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 4 December 2022 06: 35
                0
                What, about 2 months in Budyonovka, the lamentations have been stopped?

                Quote: haron
                Can you imagine winter in Nizhny Tagil? Below minus 20 is rare, well, three times a month. Usually minus 10-15, the breeze is true and the sea of ​​snow ... almost like on the Karelian Isthmus in December 39th.

                I live in UU, sunny Buryatia, so -20 is familiar, don't try to capture the imagination ...

                Quote: haron
                You say overcoat and padded jacket, yes, in Budenovka, at minus 15, in the forest, in a tent, near a fire ... 24 hours, well, well.
                What, have you read Rezun? So he didn’t write anything about a padded jacket under an overcoat and wadded pants.
                And the losses were frozen, it’s stupid to deny, but that’s about the first month and it’s ...
                And what month is it now, huh?
                1. haron
                  haron 4 December 2022 14: 42
                  0
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  What, have you read Rezun? So he didn’t write anything about a padded jacket under an overcoat and wadded pants.

                  What does Rezun have to do with it. I work "a little" as a forensic criminologist, and I know a little that the diagnosis of "death from hypothermia" is possible at + 10 degrees C on the street and clothes that do not meet the maintenance of a person's thermal stability.
                  And on the Internet there are a lot of freely accessible archived docks and articles of the charter of the Red Army of that time.
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  I live in UU, sunny Buryatia, so -20 is familiar, don't try to capture the imagination ...

                  Well, then you can easily endure a couple of days in the forest at minus 20 in a padded jacket and Budenovka.
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  And what month is it now, huh?

                  It's now December 2022. ))))
                  1. Vladimir_2U
                    Vladimir_2U 4 December 2022 14: 55
                    0
                    Quote: haron
                    Well, then you can easily endure a couple of days in the forest at minus 20 in a padded jacket and Budenovka.

                    Well, now you have already forgotten about the PSh and the overcoat, and even cotton pants.
                    Quote: haron
                    It's now December 2022. ))))
                    Now the 9th month of NBO, unlike the second then.
                    1. haron
                      haron 4 December 2022 14: 58
                      0
                      Quote: Vladimir_2U
                      Now the 9th month of NBO, unlike the second then.

                      That is, the Red Army in the 39th was enough for a month and a half. And then 9 months was not enough)))
                      I'm ending this pointless conversation.
                      1. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 4 December 2022 15: 04
                        0
                        Quote: haron
                        I'm ending this pointless conversation.

                        Of course senseless, with such a memory.

                        Quote: haron
                        That is, the Red Army in the 39th was enough for a month and a half.
                        And the account.
                2. haron
                  haron 4 December 2022 14: 46
                  0
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  And the losses were frozen, it’s stupid to deny, but that’s about the first month and it’s ...

                  The question is not that they were - it's a fact. The question is why the well-known climatic factor was not immediately taken into account when preparing the operation. And why did it take more than a month to resolve this issue?
                  This is the problem. And it repeats itself 80 years later.
                  Why PRELIMINARY and IMMEDIATELY is not taken into account the same negative experience?
                  PS. And by the way, taking ethanol orally to prevent hypothermia, WITHOUT subsequent heating (warming) of the body by an external source, increases mortality and frostbite.
                  1. Vladimir_2U
                    Vladimir_2U 4 December 2022 15: 02
                    0
                    Quote: haron
                    And why did it take more than a month to resolve this issue?

                    What month is it now?
                    Quote: haron
                    The question is why the well-known climatic factor was not immediately taken into account when preparing the operation.

                    Once again, Budyonovka, a padded jacket under an overcoat and wadded pants were standard WINTER uniforms. Yes, for the then winter it turned out to be insufficient, but the problem was solved FOR A MONTH! If you do not understand, then on the fingers - the reports went on for about the second week, respectively, the specific decision took no more than three weeks.
                    Quote: haron
                    Why PRELIMINARY and IMMEDIATELY is not taken into account the same negative experience?
                    Maybe because the perpetrators were not leaned against the wall? Like, for example, the divisional commander of a defeated division, with the most opportunely heavy losses frozen. (He was leaned over)
      2. soloist2424
        soloist2424 1 December 2022 09: 18
        +5
        So the USSR then was Stalin. Or do you separate the leader from the country?
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 1 December 2022 09: 36
          +3
          So the USSR then was Stalin. Or do you separate the leader from the country?

          Well, that is, is it normal that the head of the country should deal with such issues as the need for one or another type of weapon? And why the heck then was to have a whole People's Commissariat of Arms? Or the people's commissariat of the defense industry?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 1 December 2022 17: 38
            +1
            Quote: Ka-52
            well, that is, it is normal that the head of the country should deal with such issues,

            The leader of the country must first of all deal with personnel issues, in which, judging by his environment, he understands absolutely nothing! wink
            1. Ka-52
              Ka-52 2 December 2022 05: 34
              0
              in which, judging by his surroundings, he understands absolutely nothing! wink

              what are you talking about Stalin. You are now being stumped by his followers laughing
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 2 December 2022 07: 45
                -1
                Quote: Ka-52
                what are you talking about Stalin.

                Do not distort, too cheap move. You perfectly understood what I mean. Stalin had complete order with the personnel.
                1. Ka-52
                  Ka-52 2 December 2022 11: 38
                  +1
                  too cheap move

                  too stupid a move to intermeddle with some kind of omissions and mysterious ambiguities in a discussion where it is discussed specifically Winter War and Dzhugashvili.
                  Stalin had complete order with the personnel.

                  well then, explain from the point of view of real, and not your alternative, history, how, with full order with personnel, the Wehrmacht ended up near Moscow six months later, and most of the heavy equipment of the Red Army was either destroyed or abandoned by the retreating troops. And also explain how it is in the first six months about 3 million. Soviet soldiers were first encircled, then captured, then German concentration camps, and after the liberation of the Soviet ITL.
                  1. Guran33 Sergey
                    Guran33 Sergey 2 December 2022 17: 25
                    -3
                    And why not 100500 prisoners in the first six months? The number is prettier...
                  2. nickname7
                    nickname7 2 December 2022 20: 45
                    -4
                    The Wehrmacht was near Moscow six months later,

                    The Wehrmacht came up with a completely new tactic with the help of which they captured Poland in a week, and France with their unassailable Maginot Line in a few weeks.
                    1. haron
                      haron 3 December 2022 13: 25
                      +1
                      Quote: nickname7
                      The Wehrmacht came up with a completely new tactic

                      And for two years, ours did not understand anything about the fact that the Hans have a new tactic)))
                      Quote: nickname7
                      Poland was captured in a week

                      For five weeks.
                      Quote: nickname7
                      France with their impregnable Maginot Line in a few weeks.

                      For two months and two weeks.
                      And the same with the use of the same tactics as in Poland. The question is - why did the Red Army need a general staff and intelligence?
                    2. Ka-52
                      Ka-52 5 December 2022 05: 16
                      +1
                      is that some kind of excuse? Well, well .... from this position, I can justify any defeat in any war in world history. Only now Poland, like other small European countries, is not indicative - due to the small territory, low technical equipment and low mobilization resource, they simply did not have time to do anything.
                      In the case of the USSR, we had everything: in terms of the staffing of the army, we surpassed the Germans, in the number of heavy equipment we surpassed the Germans, in terms of the volume of military industry we were not significantly weaker than united Germany. But it must be admitted that everything was gone. As hard as it is to admit, a large territory saved us. If the USSR had been the size of the western and central regions, then the war would have ended in winter.
          2. soloist2424
            soloist2424 2 December 2022 12: 16
            0
            Abnormal, but as far as I understand, Stalin was the initiator of such a system, overseeing issues of culture and art, newspaper reports and the military industry. Here is a fact cited by one of the historians: before the war, intelligence proposed creating an analytical department that would separate intelligence by degree of importance, so that the most important ones would go on the table before the routine ones. Stalin refused, ordering that the data flow in a continuous stream, as before - he himself will figure it out.
    3. YOUR
      YOUR 2 December 2022 06: 59
      +1
      Because they answered not virtually, but with their health and life. Now in most cases they won’t even threaten with a finger.
    4. Vasily M
      Vasily M 5 December 2022 14: 21
      0
      Yes, 300 thousand dead confirm your words
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 5 December 2022 15: 43
        0
        Quote: Vasily M
        Yes, 300 thousand dead confirm your words

        Finns?
        According to the roll-call lists compiled in 1949 — 1951 by the General Directorate of Personnel of the USSR Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of the Ground Forces, the losses of the Red Army in the war were as follows:

        died and died of wounds at the stages of sanitary evacuation - 71;
        died in hospitals from wounds and diseases - 16;
        missing - 39.
        In total, 126 troops were irretrievable losses on these lists.
  2. Asad
    Asad 1 December 2022 05: 00
    +17
    And what conclusions should I draw after reading this article? That in Ukraine everything is worse than ours? Most members of the forum in Russia live and know all the "charms" of winter. The article is about nothing, our health wars will not catch a cold.
    1. insafufa
      insafufa 1 December 2022 08: 34
      +8
      in Kherson, the winter is vile and wet, as in the Caucasus, where you start to rot alive even if life is adjusted 100% humidity and temperatures in winter are about zero on average -5
      1. Asad
        Asad 1 December 2022 08: 57
        +8
        So I say that a soldier from Siberia will feel much worse than the locals and get sick more. I was drafted into the army from Novosibirsk to Norilsk, so I caught 40 chiriyev. I spent a month in the hospital, but it seemed to be absolutely healthy.
        1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
          Vasilyevich Pensioner 1 December 2022 10: 14
          +3
          Then all hope is on ours, from the Omsk region. We have a lot of swamps and lakes. Drum humidity.
        2. iva12936
          iva12936 1 December 2022 12: 47
          +2
          Humidity is tough. He was drafted from Bashkiria, got to Karelia after training. Six months of ulcers and chiri, until acclimatization has passed.
        3. Barberry25
          Barberry25 1 December 2022 15: 41
          +2
          I confirm that it is very difficult for Siberians in warm winters with high humidity ..
          1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
            Sergey Aleksandrovich 1 December 2022 21: 23
            +3
            The point is rather the lack of vitamins in the army diet. From me, another stone in the garden of military doctors.
      2. AdAstra
        AdAstra 1 December 2022 09: 42
        +3
        Yes, when such humidity in winter is a complete paragraph.
        1. insafufa
          insafufa 1 December 2022 09: 57
          +1
          Well, when fogs and drizzling rain, everything is 100% there
    2. soloist2424
      soloist2424 1 December 2022 09: 21
      +1
      It will be possible to answer unequivocally only according to the results, but most likely worse. It's one thing for you to buy / produce for yourself what you think is necessary. It's another matter - you are a poor relative, and they give you something worthless yourself. Deliveries of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the West did not always coincide with the desires of the latter.
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    4. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 1 December 2022 10: 47
      -2
      And I liked the article. Unlike many others, in it the author does not write about global issues such as all generals steal, and the equipment in the Armed Forces is behind the Western one, and in general they hint that Russia will get a kirdyk if it does not immediately do what this author proposes. In the same speech we are talking about specific things, about boots, for example. Many reproach the author that it turns out that our shoes are better suited for winter than those licked from the west for the Armed Forces
      1. stankow
        stankow 1 December 2022 12: 16
        0
        Yes, rare item. With real care.
    5. skeptick2
      skeptick2 1 December 2022 11: 14
      +8
      Quote: ASAD
      And what conclusions should I draw after reading this article?

      Yes, what conclusions can there be, other than the usual "hooray!"?
      Ukrainian trenches are shown again (they are shoved into every article), but ours are not even mentioned in the mention of the media. Presumably, we have asphalt in the trenches under our feet, and the coolness is trimmed with plastic. And the equipment of the Russian fighter is such that it’s not a shame to show it (that’s why they don’t show it for some reason?).
      The mention of the Finnish war and General Frost is out of place at all. In my youth, I had a chance to visit both Kyiv on the way, and the Yalta sanatorium on a ticket. So, in Kyiv on New Year's Eve, the rain hit with puddles up to the ankles, and in the sanatorium in the winter I went in a jacket, however, under a decent sweater. What the hell is the frost there? Judging by the stories, both in January and February, frost in Ukrainian realities is an extremely rare phenomenon. The usual temperature is 0 - -6. -10 - the lowest (very rare) temperature.
      For these conditions, the West will supply the Armed Forces of Ukraine normally, there is no doubt. Let's see how the supply of the Russian army will go. If the way the mobs were dressed, then minus 5 degrees would be a big problem.
      1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
        Vasilyevich Pensioner 1 December 2022 11: 55
        -4
        and ours are not even mentioned in the mention of the media. Presumably, we have asphalt in the trenches under our feet, and the coolness is trimmed with plastic.
        Yesterday they showed a military correspondent's report from the front line. Remembering the display of dry swamps, I expected something similar from ours. But the military commander was surprised, the dugout is comfortable and the floor has no signs of dampness.
  3. Mekey Iptyshev
    Mekey Iptyshev 1 December 2022 05: 17
    +12
    . After "insulated rubber boots like" All-terrain vehicle "" it immediately becomes clear that the author is an "office rat".
    EVA boots are the best and very cheap solution. From my personal experience. When in February 2022 I saw in the footage how our soldiers walk in them. He was glad that the Ministry of Defense began to dress the soldiers with EVA boots. However, later I found out that they themselves buy it at their own expense.
    This is better than winter berets, classic felt boots.
    1. Asad
      Asad 1 December 2022 05: 33
      +4
      I agree with you, yesterday several mobilized guys passed by and noticed that they were shod as they are called, I don’t know, rubber bottom and canvas top. So-so shoes, EVA PVC is much better.
    2. Arifon
      Arifon 1 December 2022 11: 08
      +7
      "... The Ministry of Defense began to dress the soldiers with boots ..."
      Shoe!
    3. nerd.su
      nerd.su 1 December 2022 21: 57
      +1
      Quote: Mekey Iptyshev
      EVA boots are the best and very cheap solution.

      The decision is not bad, even good. But it should be possible to dry the stocking well. If you don’t take off for a day or there is no way to dry your boots and stockings well once a day, and separately, then your feet will get wet from sweat.
  4. Eugene Zaboy
    Eugene Zaboy 1 December 2022 05: 21
    +5
    So to speak. Thermal imagers will show who and how prepared for the winter war. In trenches, heat radiation from a thermal imager cannot be hidden. There have never been such wars.
    1. Nikolay Malyugin
      Nikolay Malyugin 1 December 2022 06: 35
      +2
      Dear. There have been wars using heat before. The Argentines lit fires to divert British missiles. What's new in this war is drones.
      1. Eugene Zaboy
        Eugene Zaboy 1 December 2022 09: 31
        0
        I mean drones with thermal imagers. In Argentina, the ground does not freeze to 0 and below. In winter, the thermal imager will show everything above 0. Equipment, underground, heated shelters, people. At least I think so. Might be wrong, but time will tell.
        1. ZnaxarJorge
          ZnaxarJorge 2 December 2022 01: 29
          0
          In winter, the thermal imager will show everything above 0

          Do objects below 0° cease to radiate heat = throw infrared rays?
          1. Eugene Zaboy
            Eugene Zaboy 2 December 2022 02: 35
            +1
            The temperature difference between the surface of the earth and the human body simply increases, as does technology. Perhaps there are solutions.
    2. insafufa
      insafufa 1 December 2022 09: 00
      +3
      As from my practice, it is enough to have a foil cape to worsen the thermal imaging signal. We often run around heating systems and look for leaks, so where the foil is wound there is a minimum of radiation.
  5. Konnick
    Konnick 1 December 2022 05: 44
    +4
    Historians argue that for a successful offensive in winter, one has to collect a 4-5-fold advantage in manpower over the enemy.

    Well, this statement is true when attacking with chains on foot, but now, for a successful offensive, the number of infantry does not play a special role. We need mobility, good intelligence and, most importantly, air supremacy with the massive use of aviation both in the front line and in the rear and communications
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 1 December 2022 05: 50
    +24
    Again, hats in the air, flew .. Santa Claus for us .. Everything would be fine, but the fact is that the 9th month of the NWO is underway, the Donetsk, Kherson, Zaporozhye regions have not been completely liberated. Let's see the results? And there you can throw hats in the top.
    1. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 1 December 2022 06: 16
      +3
      Hello, Alexey! hi
      Quote: parusnik
      Again, hats in the air, flew .. Santa Claus for us ..

      Well, Fedorov is ...)))))
      Quote: parusnik
      Everything would be fine, but the fact is that the 9th month of the NWO is underway, the Donetsk, Kherson, Zaporozhye regions have not been completely liberated.

      Oh, Alexei, now they will tell us that this is his "cunning plan", and it is easy and pleasant for us to be clever from the sofa.))) Today is the first of December, that is, the well-known order of the FSB comes into effect, it is not at all clear whether it is possible, even such write articles about NWO, although it’s better not to write any articles at all than to write such articles, as for me.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 1 December 2022 06: 39
        +15
        hi Articles come to mind, right there on VO, before long before. Urya, urya .. and they are ghouls .. then how it started, again urya, urya .. And then, bang, it turned out not urya .. By the way, now, everyone is surprised that the West is helping them .. And before that, didn’t you think? The situation, now, is very serious. And they are hoping for some chance with Yuno .. Like, Santa Claus will come, he will show the Snow Maiden .. Yeah .. Here in our market, when you come, at first, something was so joyful .As the prices have risen, the people are not overjoyed, everyone is bubbling, both sellers and buyers .. Yes, what am I telling you, go to the market yourself. I think it’s the same thing.
        1. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 1 December 2022 07: 20
          +5
          Quote: parusnik
          And then, bam, it turned out not urya ..

          No, everything is also urya, you just look in the wrong topics.)))
          Quote: parusnik
          The situation is now very serious.

          This is serious for us. And what is the most important thing for them? They sit on the distribution of benefits and all their aspirations are aimed at further distributing benefits and spitting on everything else.
          Quote: parusnik
          Why am I telling you, go to the market yourself. I think it’s the same thing.

          Duck the neighbors seem to be, I can walk to you through the mountain on foot.))))
        2. Igor_Aretano
          Igor_Aretano 1 December 2022 09: 53
          -3
          Values ​​are learned by comparison. Ukraine also has markets and prices too
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 1 December 2022 19: 29
            0
            Quote: Igor_Aretano
            Values ​​are learned by comparison.

            Values ​​and prices are somewhat different concepts, don't you think? And how are these values ​​to know in comparison?
            Quote: Igor_Aretano
            Ukraine also has markets and prices too

            Who would have thought! Do you think I was sure that there were no markets or prices in Ukraine? laughing
  7. Leader_Barmaleev
    Leader_Barmaleev 1 December 2022 05: 58
    +11
    I will share my personal experience. Once, with a not very strong frost - only -15, which for Siberia, where I have lived all my life, no matter how cold, but after a fairly long period of waiting with low mobility, I needed it URGENTLY! put on an OZK-1 (yes, that same famous himgon ... well, who knows, he will understand) and a gas mask - again, not a modern "hamster" but a combined arms "elephant". And here one interesting thing turned out - with frozen fingers I physically could not fasten the OZK - my fingers did not obey, and the "punches" of the OZK did not want to push through the hardened holes. With a gas mask, everything turned out to be even more fun - while I breathed through the condensate frozen in the filter, blood flowed from my nose in a stream. I am not a professional military man - my knowledge and skills in military affairs are limited to the military department of the medical institute and training camps, there have been business trips in my life with conditions "as close as possible to combat", but I, as I was a "jacket", remained so. Ask what am I for? And here's what - the army cannot do without the professional activities of "partisans" like me, but no one has ever prepared us for winter campaigns, moreover, I have suspicions that such a subject as training personnel in combat operations in conditions there are simply no low temperatures - there is a winter form and brains in the head - spin yourself as you know. In general, if that excess with the OZK and gas mask had happened in a real battle, then there would be no one to write these letters now. I have not heard anything about any special preparation for the winter in the troops, apparently this aspect is at the mercy of the initiative commanders, and there is simply no single scientifically based concept. I'm not drawing conclusions, I'm just sharing my thoughts.
    1. White AK
      White AK 1 December 2022 15: 27
      +2
      This is all from the stupidity of the authorities, at low temperatures, the RH is not very effective, and training in RCB protection in winter is carried out indoors
      1. kamakama
        kamakama 1 December 2022 22: 58
        0
        Ahem. And where did the radiation and biology go in the winter (well, let's decipher all the letters from the RCB)? Although there are also big questions with skin-abscess chemistry
  8. Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 1 December 2022 06: 07
    +5
    You look at this dirt, and the question of which is better, boots with socks or boots with footcloths, the answer will not be as clear as before.
    1. cold wind
      cold wind 1 December 2022 08: 06
      +3
      Unambiguous. Good boots.
      I kneaded the same dirt in Bundeswehr berets and walked ankle-deep in water, my feet were dry, but it felt like I was walking in slippers. Ours are not even pleasant to wear. High-quality shoes are not produced in Russia, you can only buy foreign ones. Same thing with ammunition.
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 1 December 2022 09: 20
      +11
      Boot. Bertsy in mud is a krendets. You wind half a pound on each. I'm not talking about the pleasure of unlacing them later. Well, footcloths in dampness are our everything.
  9. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 1 December 2022 07: 04
    +5
    An ordinary mustard plaster with a sock worn over it perfectly insulates the legs for about 4 hours. Checked. On Yamal.
    1. German
      German 2 December 2022 00: 38
      0
      Mustard plaster in a boot - only in dry weather and not for long. Otherwise - kapets leg.
  10. fiberboard
    fiberboard 1 December 2022 08: 29
    +3
    This is where you remember tarpaulin boots with footcloths and an Afghan. Much better than now.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 December 2022 08: 40
    +5
    For Russia, this is the first combat winter in many years.
    The author missed that the fighters of the LDNR, as well as the Armed Forces of Ukraine, spent more than one winter in the war. Therefore, if necessary, they can share their experience. But I think that such a need will not arise, because. a Russian soldier is taught to fight in any season and, as the author correctly noted
    frosts are a completely common occurrence, especially for warriors from the north and east of the country
  12. bija089
    bija089 1 December 2022 08: 45
    -5
    Great article, well written
    1. ocean969
      ocean969 1 December 2022 09: 52
      +3
      089 don’t drive a snowstorm, one author’s thesis about planes that take off poorly in winter discouraged my desire to read the article to the end, Fedorov is obviously a couch "expert".
  13. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 1 December 2022 08: 47
    +6
    It would be appropriate to write about how General Moroz will help us if Bandera were driven into the Carpathians.
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 1 December 2022 13: 12
      0
      Articles are already being published in the Western media saying that frosts will be for the good of Ukraine and death for Russians. I think the Ukrainian media will pick it up. No way to win the war? No way. But in fairness, for me, a person who works on the street in winter, when minus 35 and the humidity in our Amurka is high, plus northwestern, gusty wind ... Well, something like minus 10 - not frost. I haven’t put on a hat yet, I manage with a hood, but now I have minus 20. hi
  14. AdAstra
    AdAstra 1 December 2022 09: 39
    +7
    Reading such articles, you might think that only they suffer from the cold, and we are a completely different race that is immune to low temperatures and our technology too. request
  15. Leader_Barmaleev
    Leader_Barmaleev 1 December 2022 10: 09
    +1
    I came across such a thing - does anyone know - does a winter uniform exist on the same principle? And if it exists, then why don't our soldiers have it?
    https://www.redlaika.ru/collection/motoekipirovka-s-podogrevom/product/zaschitnyy-kombinezon-s-podogrevom-redlaika-creative
  16. n-Stozhar
    n-Stozhar 1 December 2022 10: 54
    -1
    In winter, at work, I wear rag shoes of a real Nike to minus thirty .. and compare ... all the beauty of winter shoes and genuine leather ... and oak soles are stitched at a time ... and people are pushing homemade insoles there ... and here, it’s not stitched at all, only under the fortieth they are tanned, then I carry winter sneakers 361 degrees ... China makes them only for itself .... it doesn’t carry for export, although there are many who want ... but the post is not about that .. .estimate, funny fantasy .... you buy a laser cutter for pisyattyr, attach it to a telescope and turn the optics of an American hubble or White into trash overnight ..... what people can’t think of so that they are not considered by the owners of bets on life. ...
  17. Churchill
    Churchill 1 December 2022 11: 56
    +2
    Author ! Balabol, how do Ukrainian trenches differ from Russian ones in bad weather?
    1. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 1 December 2022 12: 25
      +4
      Balabol, how do Ukrainian trenches differ from Russian ones in bad weather?
      How do you not know?!!!!! So I'll tell you everything now. They differ in ownership! Here!
  18. lisikat2
    lisikat2 1 December 2022 12: 01
    0
    The other day, somewhere I saw material, it was stated there: "General" frost "is beneficial to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they have an abundance of the latest thermal imagers, a lot of drones.
    I would like reliable information
    1. Negro
      Negro 1 December 2022 13: 40
      +2
      On an equal footing, bad weather helps the defenders, and now the Russian Federation is defending. On the other hand, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are not on an equal footing in terms of supply, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine can realize their superiority in this aspect. Or they might not, of course.
  19. Alexander Timchenko
    Alexander Timchenko 1 December 2022 12: 28
    +5
    So it was in the 4th and 5th centuries, and so it will be in the XNUMXst. Historians argue that for a successful offensive in winter, one has to collect a XNUMX-XNUMX-fold advantage in manpower over the enemy.

    Did the Red Army near Moscow in the winter of 1941-42 or near Stalingrad in the winter of 1942-43 have "a 4-5-fold advantage in manpower over the enemy" ???
  20. opposite28
    opposite28 1 December 2022 12: 45
    -3
    However, for Russia, frosts are a completely familiar phenomenon, especially for warriors from the north and east of the country, who have natural resistance to cold.
    And again, the representatives of Buryatia and Yakutia are at their best, not only do they speak a language completely unfamiliar to Ukrainians, but also with Grandfather Frost as old friends (in a good way). good
  21. Evgeny_Sviridenko
    Evgeny_Sviridenko 1 December 2022 13: 09
    +6
    Well, what other boots made of insulated rubber? In any rubber you will stab in the cold. Here are boots made of EVA (waterproof ethylene vinyl acetate) have already been appreciated by fishermen, hunters, builders. With thermal stockings and slush, and any frost is not terrible. And very light, unlike rubber. And yes, in the end, "little things" often decide a lot. Pneumonia does not sleep ...
    1. ratcatcher
      ratcatcher 1 December 2022 18: 39
      +3
      These boots have one serious minus. They are very sensitive to cuts and snags. And they are afraid of fire.
      And so, both sides actively use them.
      1. ycuce234-san
        ycuce234-san 1 December 2022 20: 00
        0
        Quote: ratcatcher
        These boots have one serious minus. They are very sensitive to cuts and snags. And they are afraid of fire.


        According to the logic of things - now we need to make a standard, soft and warm EVA stocking insert with a high knee boot in a tarpaulin boot or beret - not afraid of cuts and gusts, but cold, wet and rubbing. Tanks and planes are being upgraded - and obsolete shoes can also be upgraded.
        1. ratcatcher
          ratcatcher 4 December 2022 06: 00
          0
          If you make an insert, then the beret for the 43rd leg size will need the 50th. Since you still need a warming stocking. EVA - does not heat. What about the meaning? So it's easier to do something like tight waterproof shoe covers on the beret - from moisture. Kind of like the Bundeswehr. And for the winter you still need warm membranes. The problem is that it's expensive :(
          1. ycuce234-san
            ycuce234-san 4 December 2022 09: 14
            0
            Quote: ratcatcher
            EVA - does not heat


            EVA - this is an inexpensive "membrane". It is enough to make a stocking 1-1,5 mm thick and insert it inside the tarpaulin. Then the outer boot can get wet as much as it likes - the inner quick-change stocking-consumable keeps the legs and footcloths dry and is protected from cuts by the material of the boot, unlike the outer shoe covers.
            The main idea was that the shoes can also be upgraded like a tank with an airplane - only instead of replacing the stuffing, the technicians make changes to the stocked shoes - for example, for a very hot climate they pierce the ventilation holes with a punch, for winter they complete with eva or a silicone stocking, etc.
            The stocking can be made from rubberized technical fabric and you can even do homemade - take thick loose knitted socks, paint the outside of their layers with 10 ordinary rubber or latex paint that forms a waterproof film, periodically renew worn out places.
            1. ratcatcher
              ratcatcher 4 December 2022 20: 37
              0
              Eva - does not heat. This is a shell. She still needs a heater.
              "First of all, it is necessary to consider the composition of the insulation, which in the main share determines the temperature limit of operation, rather than the EVA boots themselves."
              https://fortmen.ru/news/obzory/pochemu-merznut-nogi-v-eva-sapogakh-/?ysclid=lb9n8ye654146050577
              1. ycuce234-san
                ycuce234-san 5 December 2022 07: 49
                0
                Insulation in any case will be in the form of warm socks, footcloths or other inserts. And evasaboots are worn precisely because berets get wet in weeks of mud and everything inside is wet and does not warm. And then the trench foot is obtained. Therefore, the insert should be made under the shin - above the tops: the boot protects it from mechanical damage, and the polymer protects the legs from water in socks or footcloths and in a warm insert and keeps the felt insoles dry, which should also fit inside the eva-insert.
                1. ratcatcher
                  ratcatcher 6 December 2022 00: 59
                  0
                  The modern boot is made in a specific way. Don't make it thin. The sole of the eva boots has recesses so that moisture accumulates there. Otherwise, the leg will be very rushing. Insulation is made in the form of a special boot.
                  1. ycuce234-san
                    ycuce234-san 6 December 2022 06: 22
                    0
                    The shape and thickness of the EVA product depends on the decision of the designers. Ethyl vinyl acetate film for covering greenhouses is an example of a thin product. As for the recesses and the large thickness, the designers made these decisions based on the choice of eva for the outer layer of the shoe and not for the inner one.
                    1. ratcatcher
                      ratcatcher 6 December 2022 16: 57
                      0
                      EVA - has nothing to do with membranes or directly with heaters. It's just waterproof. Yes, it keeps heat longer than rubber. But in the cold, EVA inserts are needed inside. And I wrote to you above about moisture. In EVA, the foot will get wet in the same way as in conventional rubber. for this they make a special shape of the sole from the inside :)))
                      Therefore, just an EVA insert will not help you. You can then cheaply and cheerfully, as tourists do when crossing swampy terrain or water, just put a bag on your foot over the sock and insert it into the boot :) Without "designer's decisions", EVA will be of little use.
                      Read, please, what kind of material is this. I even sent you the link above. Once again) The last attempt and that's it :) I'm finishing.
                      https://www.nordman.ru/blog/detskaya-obuv/7-nastoyashchikh-faktov-pro-obuv-iz-eva/?ysclid=lbca7a8jr6454252764
                      1. ycuce234-san
                        ycuce234-san 6 December 2022 19: 25
                        0
                        The first were the fishermen. Previously, in winter, they sat by the hole in huge felt boots or rubber shoe covers. But the boots got wet.


                        It says right there - shoes can get wet even at negative temperatures from snow and not at all from sweat (it is usually just not enough). Therefore, an internal waterproof eva insert is useful: it isolates wet shoes from dry feet and dry insulation. And the option with external bundesbahily has the disadvantage of poor resistance to mechanical damage - external shoe covers made of rubber will turn out much better. I did not consider the heater unnecessary.
                      2. ratcatcher
                        ratcatcher 7 December 2022 04: 54
                        0
                        OK. Make yourself EVA inserts for warmth ...
                        It's amazing that no one has thought of such a simple thing...
  22. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 1 December 2022 14: 39
    +2
    I don’t understand, isn’t February-March winter?
    For at least a month in the winter, we have already fought in the Northern Military District.
    I hope conclusions have been drawn.
    Although with our clumsy, rusty bureaucratic machine, all sorts of miracles are possible. wassat
    1. ZnaxarJorge
      ZnaxarJorge 2 December 2022 01: 42
      +1
      Then there was a mobile war, and now a positional one. You can also race in an armored car in sneakers. But standing in the trench slurry is not.
  23. Altmann
    Altmann 1 December 2022 16: 52
    +2
    Although the article is a theory, it is very well thought out. Winter is a soldier's worst enemy. You will probably be surprised, but in 1980 we also had a frost in Bohemia -20% for about a week, it was only a few days, but at that time two tank divisions, the connecting node of the front, stood on a forest pass on the border with Poland. even the diesel engine was like jelly and the soldiers were completely frozen and we were unable to act. In the forests, tankers were saved only by big fires. Therefore, the article interested me very much. I know frost personally. Fortunately, the Spoyovchi unit received Russian ZIL cars, which also had an insulated body, and we waited there and waited for the order. It was then that Jaruzelski declared martial law, and we drove home, and miraculously it became warm. For those of you who are interested in history, it was December 1980 when parts of the Warsaw Pact were supposed to go to Poland. am
  24. vlad2000
    vlad2000 1 December 2022 17: 11
    +8
    crazy article. we are told here that the Russians are accustomed to fighting in the winter and Ukrainians, like, come from Ethiopia. Yes, when all these comrades who write articles in the chat will realize that we are at war with ourselves. Ukrainians are also accustomed to fighting in the cold and in the heat and in the rain and snow .otherwise the USSR would not have won the war, and the Soviet army in all combat units was built mainly on a triumvirate of nationalities - a Russian Ukrainian Belarusian. We are fighting with ourselves. On the other side, there are smart, brave, inventive fighters like us. And only fools talk that they are inept, intimidated mobs in dirty, water-flooded trenches. It’s true that it’s not clear that our trenches 50 meters from them are rolled up with asphalt and are fragrant with the scent of Chanel? What kind of nonsense do such writers write
  25. t200404
    t200404 1 December 2022 17: 23
    0
    Everything is very individual, like a person periodically walking 150 km in the company of various people - someone is wearing sandals, someone needs 4 pairs of shoes (I'm 3).
  26. acetophenone
    acetophenone 1 December 2022 18: 04
    0
    Quote: White AK
    This is all from the stupidity of the authorities, at low temperatures, the RH is not very effective, and training in RCB protection in winter is carried out indoors

    Maybe now it is so, but in Soviet times all events were held at ANY time of the year, as well as day and night. And as for the inefficiency of the OM at low temperatures, then you should be ashamed to write nonsense. Yes, the vapor pressure is somewhat lower, but drop-liquid ones will do the personnel in the absence of OZK and a "reliable, proven gas mask" both in winter and in summer. Yes, and it is more difficult to treat the affected.
  27. ratcatcher
    ratcatcher 1 December 2022 18: 36
    +2
    "It is interesting that modern armies seem to have completely forgotten about such a disease - berets are everywhere in winter uniform sets instead of insulated rubber boots." - in fact, there are a lot of rubber boots on both sides - there are a lot of photos and videos. And rubber boots or OZK stockings were widely distributed back in Chechnya.
    "Judging by the footage posted by the nationalists, the vaunted tactical boots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are completely unsuitable for impassable mud in trenches and trenches." I'm afraid our story is completely mirrored. In addition, firstly, there are OZK shoe covers (which the author mentioned later), secondly, rubber (PVC) boots, which I wrote about above, and thirdly, the shoes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are better, this was recognized by many military correspondents, even Sladkov. It is not surprising that most of the corpses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the photo and video are WITHOUT SHOE. And they have their own army shoes better. And they are still supplied from the West. And here we can only buy for ourselves, which 80 percent does.
    For the winter, we, of course, have another option for felt boots or yuft boots. Not a bad option, but ... Boots for the cold and, as I remember very well in the army, I usually had to wear them with the same OZK on top.
    But in general, it is strange to expect that the APU will have worse problems with the cold than ours. Both we and they live in a rather cold climate. Tea is not Napoleon's army. In addition, they better understand the climatic features of Ukraine and different territories related to it.
  28. Dmitrich__B
    Dmitrich__B 1 December 2022 18: 54
    -1
    "But in any case, the success of the winter campaign will depend on the timely and high-quality supply of the army with everything necessary, from winter uniforms to personal heating equipment. No matter how trite it may sound in the end."
    Question. What prevents, for example, "Ozon" from placing its delivery points in relatively large settlements, about 40-50 km from the ribbon, let's say in the basements of buildings, if they are so afraid of shelling. In the future, the commander from the front sends the car. One fighter, by proxy, receives parcels for the unit. Of course, using smartphones and receiving confirmation codes does not work here, but you can find a way out. During the Second World War, both parcels and letters went to the fighters, but now it’s hard to think through,
  29. runway-1
    runway-1 1 December 2022 20: 17
    +2
    The author's logic is very original, in the spirit of agitprop: when the frost comes, and here we... winked
  30. runway-1
    runway-1 1 December 2022 20: 20
    +1
    Quote: 2 level advisor
    Would you even think, Boris, what kind of photo you are posting as your proof .. a hint: the yellow ribbons are not ours .. but the diamond-shaped tank patch is ours ...

    Quote: Sanguinius
    Come on, come on ... THINK, this is not about Boris!)

    Another confirmation of the professional mistake of "Boris Leontyevich". winked
  31. aporierti
    aporierti 1 December 2022 20: 51
    -1
    Of course, I apologize, but if the country's authorities had listened to Navalny's investigations of corruption in the army and simply outright theft in the army leadership, then this tragic situation would not have happened now when the people in the country collect uniforms for soldiers, warm socks, pea coats, etc. But the authorities did not fight corruption in the army, but Navalny himself. Now Navalny is in a colony, and no one has been held accountable in the Ministry of Defense, especially since Shoigu himself seemed to be out of business. And that the army was not only not ready for conflicts with such an enemy as Ukraine, but that the material and technical equipment in the army turned out to be only on paper. This was not even in the 1st Chechen war and that beggarly time in Russia.
  32. Frank Muller
    Frank Muller 1 December 2022 22: 56
    +1
    On this topic, you can argue as much as you like, citing evidence and historical analogies. But the most authoritative arbitrator will be the already frowning calendar winter. She will show who was better prepared for war in winter conditions. And let's leave the historical analogies to history itself - they have long become the property of the past. To prophesy is a thankless task, especially against the background of sudden and repeated “good will”, as well as “difficult decisions” that can end the NWO with some sudden “Minsk”, or something like that.
  33. ZnaxarJorge
    ZnaxarJorge 2 December 2022 01: 57
    0
    Russian volunteers should pay attention not only to the supply of front-line soldiers with warm clothes and field stoves, but also individual heating devices. In winter, open fire and smoke can be fatal for fighters, so you can warm your hands and exposed skin with chemical heating pads.

    Why not gas, propane-butane burners? No smoke, almost no light, much more energy, easy to use. You can cook food, boil water and fill a rubber heating pad.
  34. Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 2 December 2022 07: 30
    0
    Quote from cold wind
    High-quality shoes are not produced in Russia, you can only buy foreign ones

    Come on. Here are the winter boots of the Russian army. I wore similar moon rovers for one winter. They do not flow, very warm, although in my opinion a little heavy
    1. Alex_mech
      Alex_mech 2 December 2022 12: 39
      +1
      And you can ask what it means to "wear one winter", in what conditions, ankle-deep in water in a trench or along a city street?
      1. Olddetractor
        Olddetractor 2 December 2022 12: 56
        0
        In winter 2020-2021, in the countryside, permanentlylaughing November to early April. I understand what you want to say. I hope I answered
  35. scoffer
    scoffer 2 December 2022 08: 29
    -1
    The author wrote complete nonsense! NWO began at the end of WINTER and already in the first days of the war, our guys stood near Kyiv, liberated Kherson, Berdyansk and Melitopol.
    1. Alex_mech
      Alex_mech 2 December 2022 12: 41
      0
      You probably did not quite understand the difference between the end of that winter and the beginning of this one. Now positional warfare is in the trenches, and the people in the trenches are completely different. Yes, and then there were frostbite and other troubles.
  36. Blue fox
    Blue fox 2 December 2022 11: 20
    +2
    The author consistently publishes articles in the style of 20% reality and 80% of the slogans and propaganda of turbopatriots. Certainly in relation to the enemy using parasitic words a la "praised" as in this case
    vaunted tactical boots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are completely unsuitable for impenetrable mud
    .
    So, for educational program:
    1. Not a single tactical boot is suitable for impassable mud, rubber (EVA, PVC, etc.) boots are by definition designed for this;
    2. The boots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are really good and, frankly, better than the authorized boots of the army of Burkina Faso, which is why the military and volunteers of this country are forced to buy HAIX, PRABOS, VANEDA and other LOWA wherever possible during the day, and they sew boots for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the country 404 ;
    3. The abundance of corpses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine without shoes and totally without whole armor plates, not only because of the effects of the impact of the shock wave, I hope it’s easy to think further?
    As for help from sponsors, volunteers and other things, why did you suddenly decide that the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other formations will not be helped with uniforms and equipment in the same way? Banal things like gas generators go to the troops on both sides of the front, and as for chemical heating pads, then
    You can make such gadgets even in school chemistry laboratories.
    not only in Russia, but also in Ukraine.
    Summing up, I sincerely express my desire to delve into an adequate analysis of the situation, without distortions. Because on logic
    However, for Russia, frosts are a completely familiar phenomenon, especially for warriors from the north and east of the country, who have natural resistance to cold.
    not go far.
  37. Alex_mech
    Alex_mech 2 December 2022 12: 38
    -1
    According to Vladimir Putin, the number of beds in Russian hospitals is 38% occupied by the beginning of winter, which inspires hope....
    Well, very strange. Why does the president comment on the "bed fund", where did this figure come from, and whether such figures should be believed at all.
  38. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 2 December 2022 13: 00
    0
    We will know the answer to this question soon enough.
  39. yuriy1863
    yuriy1863 3 December 2022 10: 58
    0
    There is every reason to believe that the huge masses of those mobilized in the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have difficulty with basic supplies in winter.

    The Armed Forces of Ukraine have good helpers - volunteers, who over the past 8 years have learned to work effectively to provide military personnel with everything they need. So the author of the article does not place the accents quite correctly. Yes, and the West will throw something out of its unnecessary and overdue.
    And, besides, we must not forget that the same Slavs, accustomed to post-Soviet poverty, are fighting against ours.
    So, the situation will be somewhere equal.
    The main thing is that our generals from the rear remember in time what they were taught in rear schools and academies and organize a normal supply of troops with winter ammunition.
    1. vlad2000
      vlad2000 3 December 2022 13: 11
      -1
      about the generals especially made me laugh. like how Sechin should remember about pensioners))))
      1. yuriy1863
        yuriy1863 4 December 2022 12: 56
        0
        about the generals especially made me laugh. like how Sechin should remember about pensioners))))

        Yes, I agree, it's more funny than sad. Maybe they have another reason to "coffee" another profitable order for "ultra-modern winter uniforms" to some next fashionable "Yudashkin". There will be a reason to promote and "dough" to earn at the expense of the budget. And people will throw themselves on padded jackets and felt boots!
  40. Vladimir Zhuravlev
    Vladimir Zhuravlev 4 December 2022 04: 22
    0
    Heated suit Redlaika "Universal" khaki
    Men's insulated suit "Universal" with heating is made in khaki color. The "Universal" model was created specifically to protect production workers from the cold. The suit consists of a jacket with a hood, semi-overalls and a fleece vest with pockets for a heating kit. The fleece vest is put on under a jacket and semi-overalls. The heating in the suit can be adjusted from 30℃ to 60℃. The heating time in the suit is from 6 to 30 hours.
  41. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 7 December 2022 18: 59
    0
    The Siberian divisions deployed near Moscow put an end to it. So whose divisions are better trained?