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New World Order: Playing Equal

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New World Order: Playing EqualThe Guardian Browser Sheymas Milne считаетThat the first news about the end of the so-called New World Order came in 2008 year. “In August,” writes a progressive British journalist, “a US Georgia client was crushed in a brief but bloody war after her army was attacked by Russian troops in the disputed territory of South Ossetia.”

The fighting ended, and George W. Bush warned Russia: they should not, they say, recognize South Ossetia. But Russia recognized.

Here the author of the article sees the first turning point of the geopolitical level. Moreover, the independent decision of Russia was made against the background of the eroded military domination of America (what is being said is clear: Iraq and Afghanistan). “After two decades, during which the United States hung over the world like a colossus,” Milne says, “the years of unchallenged US power were over.”

The second event, which marked the impending change in the world order, dates back to 15 September. On this day, the entire US financial system was shaken: the fourth largest investment bank, Lehman Brothers, went bankrupt. Milne finds that the Western world is facing the deepest, counting from the 1930-s economic crisis.

The world led by the United States, "proclaimed" by George Bush Sr. in 1990, subordinated to Western capitalist standards and almost free from socialism, suddenly cracked. (Fukuyama sat down to write his idealistic book "The End stories“We’ll add from ourselves where it predicted that human history ends in an American-style democracy - because there’s nowhere to go, all countries of the world, one after the other, are democratized).

“But between the attacks on the twin towers and the collapse of Lehman,” writes S. Milne, “this world order collapsed. Two factors were decisive. By the end of the decade of protracted wars, the United States achieved success in discovering limits, rather than the degree of influence of its armed forces. And the neoliberal capitalist model, which reigned for a whole generation, cracked at the seams. ” And just the reaction of the United States to the attacks of 9 / 11 and broke the feeling of invincibility of the first "global empire" in the world.

The journalist writes: "The wildly overvalued response of the Bush administration turned the attacks in New York and Washington into the most successful terrorist attack in history." The Global Behemoth was unable to impose its will on either Iraq or Afghanistan. Both invasions were the undisputed strategic defeat of the United States.

As for the economy, the “model of insatiable capitalism,” implemented by corporations “by increasing inequality and environmental degradation,” has also been discredited. From the collapse of her saved large-scale state intervention.

Both strategic and economic collapse accelerated China's rapid rise. His analyst refers to the third epoch-making change.

Following the rise of the People's Republic of China, the fourth global change was born in Latin America. “Throughout the continent,” writes the British journalist, “socialist and social democratic governments have advanced to power, which have aimed at economic and racial injustice, the creation of regional independence and the return of resources from corporate hands. Two decades after we were assured that there could be no alternatives for neoliberal capitalism, Latin Americans were able to create them. ”

Ideology is not created from scratch. Being determines consciousness. All system alternatives, from Soviet to Thatcher-Reagan neoliberalism, have grown out of specific historical circumstances, the author notes. And now, due to the consequences of the neoliberal crisis, the need has arisen to reconstruct the economy into a more democratic, egalitarian and rational channel. It is here that the journalist sees the form for a new viable alternative.

Brad Franklin, a resident of Vancouver, a former political reporter, TV host and federal government employee in Canada, and now a permanent columnist for China.org.cn, prompts to the American ideologues that new form of peaceful and mutually beneficial existence of states, to which Comrade Milne got in his article. (Actually, Milne is right - this form has already been defined historically. It’s another thing that America that has lost weight continues to wear fat man’s clothes ...)

Despite the economic downturn, the journalist writes, the United States can still claim to be the richest and most powerful country in the world. However, the attention of all is now focused on how things will go further - after the world economy recovers. Many Americans believe that everything will go the way it was before: America will again be the world leader, and the new “global hero”, that is, China, will be pushed back somewhere below second place.

But those who can think see a new order in the world. If they drive on the roads "Fords" and "Chevrolet", so the Chinese production. The essence of this, and more precisely, in international cooperation.

If before the classics of geopolitics and the world economy was the attitude of the parties according to the principle “I win, you lose” (which, by the way, was prevalent primarily among Americans), now this “game” is not the best way to move forward, especially if someone one started to confront all other players.

Singaporean analyst Simon Tay, referred to by Franklin, believes that instead of fierce competition between the US and the PRC (as well as other Asian countries), we should move to a partnership. They must allow the interconnection of their economies. He postulates that in this scenario, each of the former superpowers plays the role of a regional leader, but at the same time establishes a new balance in which America treats Asia just as a partner, and not as a competitor who needs to be defeated in the market. Simon Tay argues that, acting together, states can be stronger than they would be, acting separately. In addition, a strategic partnership would lead them to a win-win position in the world.

However, does the superpowers have the political will to accept a new historical version of development? Franklin, who has been a political observer for many years, doubts that the government of America is prepared to admit this. And the “adventures” of the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan, alas, reflect the position of America, according to which other countries should behave in accordance with the “American values”.

As for China, it pays more attention to solving its own internal problems and prefers not to interfere in the affairs of sovereign states.

Therefore, the journalist suggests that the idea of ​​cooperation and partnership would be much more easily accepted in China than in America. However, Franklin notes, “after all, America cannot have much choice in this matter.” Economic and geopolitical relations, when everyone on the planet obeys someone under the number 1, ended, the author writes. Let's hope that a partnership with the unipolar world will replace the journalist, concludes.

From Western Journalism didn't slip away and the factthat while the American authorities are still trying to implement the doctrine of the “global government”, Russian President Vladimir Putin presented a vision of the world that goes against the so-called “new world order”.

The Eurasian project, outlined a year ago in the article by Russian Prime Minister Putin “A New Integration Project for Eurasia: The Future is in Creation” (Izvestia, October 3, 2011), is both a threat to the New World Order and an alternative to it.

The reaction of the Western media to the integration project was unanimously negative. The allergy of the West to Putin’s plan is explicable, but this project of Eurasian integration has grown out of the post-Soviet geopolitical and cultural space and is consonant with current global trends.

The fact is, the journalist believes that most of humanity realizes that the “new world order” is demonic power. After all, this is the path to the establishment of unification and despotism on a planetary scale.

Putin’s hostility toward a “new world order” headed by the United States is the main reason why Russia is considered dangerous for the financial “world masters”. Meanwhile, the author believes that political salvation through global governance is an absurd nightmare ...

SoIf the USA is still perceived worldwide as supporters of the “old” model of the “new world order”, then China and Russia take into account the latest trends in the modern world and strive for partnership, and not hegemony on the scale of the globe. Today, when the crisis is baking the so-called developed countries, the world needs not a stale commodity called “American values”, but a life-saving medicine in the form of mutually beneficial cooperation is needed.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. Vadivak
    Vadivak 1 November 2012 08: 41
    +21
    The United States can still claim the title of the richest and most powerful country in the world



    Nathan Rothschild alone can pay off the external debt of the USA and he will still have grandchildren for a cloudless childhood
    1. Vanek
      Vanek 1 November 2012 08: 46
      +9
      Did you watch RenTV yesterday?

      Good afternoon, Vadim.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 1 November 2012 08: 53
        +3
        Quote: Vanek
        Did you watch RenTV yesterday?

        Good afternoon, Vadim.


        Hi Ivan, there was a case and once read the book "CIA against the USSR"
        1. Vanek
          Vanek 1 November 2012 09: 17
          +2
          Quote: Vadivak
          was the case


          An interesting program was. Now I’m waiting not so much on December 21.12.2012, 23.12, but the event that will happen in a few days - December XNUMX. This is much more interesting.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 1 November 2012 09: 24
            +2
            Quote: Vanek
            and the event that will happen in a few days is 23.12/XNUMX. This is much more interesting.

            Hi Ivan, what event should happen and where?
            1. Vanek
              Vanek 1 November 2012 09: 32
              +5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              and what event should happen and where?


              They expire a ninety-nine year contract with the Fed. If they do not renew the contract, they will not be able to print the loot. As far as I understand.

              Greetings to Alexander.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 1 November 2012 09: 47
                +3
                Quote: Vanek
                If they do not renew the contract, they will not be able to print the loot.

                Ivan, what a loot it is, cut-and-decorated paper. They won’t prolong it, there’s just no sense, they’ll come up with another dirty trick as the next financial scam, after it has been legalized and the solution to the external debt problem is complete.
                1. Vadivak
                  Vadivak 1 November 2012 09: 59
                  +7
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  they will not extend


                  Hi Sasha, how the machine worked and will work, think of the debt, when the whole world tied to the dollar well, scolding him, so what? everywhere they accept as payment for their industrial goods, natural resources and agricultural products. And on the Marshall Islands and in El Salvador, this is the state currency, and Nigeria and Iraq have one foot in the same place, but I don’t want to talk about our rush, 31 ruble backed by raw materials for a dollar provided with paint
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 1 November 2012 10: 55
                    +5
                    Vadivak,
                    Quote: Vadivak
                    Hello Sasha,

                    Hi Vadim, though I already said hello in another article.
                    Quote: Vadivak
                    everywhere they accept as payment for their industrial goods, natural resources and agricultural products.

                    They accept it, but only when countries switch to mutual settlements with their own currencies, and not with the dollar, you don’t want it, but the amers have to think about the consequences. The steps are not sharp at first glance, just because they would be safe from the dollar falling. to borrow indefinitely, this is the way to a dead end, and for all.
                    1. nutmeg
                      nutmeg 3 November 2012 14: 57
                      0
                      I don’t see the dollar, so take and start the Boeing, Apple, Google, Microsoft, produce, all business then ..... wink
                      1. homosum20
                        homosum20 4 November 2012 17: 30
                        +1
                        You are probably very smart, but how is this related? Or do you want to say that the value of the dollar is provided by Boeing, Apple, Microsoft ?.
                        Very interesting economic theory.
                        However, I dare to push even more bold. If I do not like the dollar, I should start producing AUG (carrier strike groups). It is more efficient.
                      2. 4 November 2012 18: 39
                        0
                        Quote: nutmeg
                        I don’t see the dollar, so take and start the Boeing, Apple, Google, Microsoft, produce, all business then

                        iPhones, google, clothes, cars, etc. it's all garbage, a trifle. The main thing is the energy, who owns the energy, then controls everything. No wonder war is always over resources.
                        Putin is building an energy power. Rosneft, RosAtom, Gazprom - these are the real tools of international politics, not your iPhones.
                      3. Karish
                        Karish 4 November 2012 19: 00
                        +1
                        Quote: kos
                        The main thing is the energy, who owns the energy, then controls everything

                        This is probably why the United States prefers to buy oil, and keep its fields mothballed.
                      4. bootlegger
                        bootlegger 6 November 2012 01: 18
                        0
                        As far as we know, it’s not already. The USA is increasing production on its territory. Not a very good symptom for them ...
                  2. SSR
                    SSR 1 November 2012 18: 09
                    +3
                    Quote: Vadivak
                    how the machine worked and it will work, think of duty

                    And if they do not extend and release a new candy wrapper "Amero" where there is plenty of room for imagination, I wonder how the whole world will react with a bunch of unnecessary candy wrappers and with a broken system of mutual settlements they will not rush to butt with a nuclear power)))))))
                    PS.
                    and in order to completely disown the dollar, they will rename the country in P.e.d.o.s.s. and disown US debts ... this would be the biggest scammer)))
                    1. Ziksura
                      Ziksura 1 November 2012 23: 00
                      +1
                      Quote: SSR
                      how the whole world will react with a bunch of unnecessary candy wrappers and with a broken settlement system

                      Stop taking new candy wrappers. All- TRYAYAHNET !!!!!! And USA- KAYUK !!!!!!
                      We survive. Remember the beginning of the 90s. What are you dead?
                      Quote: SSR
                      they will not rush butting with a nuclear power

                      Russia has the most powerful nuclear potential. Is the ruble one of the main reserve currencies? Not so simple. hi
                      1. SSR
                        SSR 2 November 2012 00: 55
                        0
                        Quote: Ziksura
                        Is the ruble one of the main reserve currencies? Not so simple.

                        yeah I do not mind )))
                      2. homosum20
                        homosum20 4 November 2012 18: 00
                        0
                        Recent conflicts show that the greatest economic effect is bringing small wars for oil and gas (Libya, Iraq, etc.).
                        In such a war, nuclear missiles will not help us. We must not forget that losing the economic war, you can not win any other.
                    2. homosum20
                      homosum20 4 November 2012 17: 35
                      +1
                      But Romney will be chosen - and we will see. We will not like it.
                    3. bootlegger
                      bootlegger 6 November 2012 01: 23
                      0
                      The result will be a loss of reserve currency. They will throw themselves.
                      The best thing they can do for themselves is to continue issuing dollars gradually decreasing their rates and gradually eroding debts ..
                  3. Olaf555
                    Olaf555 2 November 2012 05: 06
                    0
                    Cool said !!! 100 +)))
                2. Kostyar
                  Kostyar 1 November 2012 11: 47
                  +6
                  they now have a geopolitical enemy in the person of Putin, and their loot is depreciating every day ...
                  1. EropMyxoMop
                    EropMyxoMop 1 November 2012 16: 49
                    0
                    Comedian however.
                  2. homosum20
                    homosum20 4 November 2012 17: 39
                    0
                    Well, if you look at the Central Bank rate (especially in the last 10 days), then everything is wrong.
                3. arkady149
                  arkady149 1 November 2012 22: 47
                  0
                  Physically, money is printed in small quantities relative to virtual money. For example, a stack of $ 100 banknotes of only 1 billion would be about a kilometer high, and our planet's external debt of $ 10 can four times wrap our planet around the equator. Not a pretty little packet.
                  1. Olaf555
                    Olaf555 2 November 2012 05: 08
                    +1
                    Wow pack!
              2. crazyrom
                crazyrom 1 November 2012 21: 31
                +1
                Quote: Vanek
                They expire a ninety-nine year contract with the Fed. If the contract is not renewed, they will not be able to print the loot

                These are rumors, duck. Most likely the loot will be printed forever while this damned country occupies our Earth.
    2. slav4ikus
      slav4ikus 1 November 2012 09: 58
      +2
      but will he want to spend his money on other people's grandchildren? - that’s the question
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 1 November 2012 10: 29
        +2
        Quote: slav4ikus
        but will he want to spend his money on foreign grandchildren?


        Rothschild Foundation.

        Thanks to the foundation, instructional television was created in Israel, the Open University, the Institute for Advanced Studies and the Adult Education Center at the Hebrew University (Jerusalem), the faculty of nurses at the University of Tel Aviv were founded. At the expense of the Rothschild Foundation, a Music Center was built in Mishkenot-Shaananim (Jerusalem area), exhibitions are held in the Israeli Museum. The fund participates in equipping hospitals with medical equipment, in financing nursing homes, and pays scholarships to students. For achievements in the field of exact sciences, the Rothschild Foundation awards the Rothschild Prizes. At the expense of the fund in 1992 the building of the Supreme Court of Israel was built.
    3. Ziksura
      Ziksura 1 November 2012 22: 50
      +1
      Quote: Vadivak
      Nathan Rothschild alone can pay off the external debt of the USA and he will still have grandchildren for a cloudless childhood

      The transfer to REN TV is certainly interesting.
      Quote: Vadivak
      and I also once read the book "The CIA against the USSR"

      Maybe the book is interesting, but ...... !!!!!!!
      This dumping of the money supply into the economy would turn the dollar into trash. Exchange rates and stocks and from the smaller issue "shies away" pretty much.
    4. Ross
      Ross 2 November 2012 00: 01
      0
      Vadivak,
      Nathan Rothschild USA on the drum. He has interests in Europe and China. And America is in charge of Rockefeller.
    5. homosum20
      homosum20 4 November 2012 17: 17
      0
      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B4%D1
      % 8B
      Nathan Meyer Rothschild years of life 1777-1836
      I'm afraid he already has US government debt on the drum.
      Ibid:
      The general condition of the Rothschild group is estimated at 1,7 trillion USD
      Given that US debt is 16 trillion. USD - will not be paid. Not enough money.
  2. Vanek
    Vanek 1 November 2012 08: 44
    +9
    The next morning after the hurricane I watched the news, five minutes on the first. Their states showed, well, yes, their trouble, grief. After this story, I turned on the channel with music, and someone would have thought - Leps sings. Well, somehow it happened so by itself. Here are the words from that song:

    - The best day came yesterday. . .
    And further along the lyrics:
    - And according to Anglitski it means: -Wahhhh.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 1 November 2012 08: 54
      +2
      Quote: Vanek
      Well, yes, they have trouble, woe.


      They can handle it, but God forbid we have?
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 1 November 2012 09: 15
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        Well, God forbid we have?


        I would like to believe that like the cataclysms that plague the United States, they will bypass us. Although ..... What the hell is not joking.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 1 November 2012 09: 31
          +2
          Quote: Vanek

          I would like to believe that like the cataclysms that plague the United States, they will bypass us. Though .....

          They won’t hurt, the climate really changed, the tornado in Blagoveshchensk, and in your place in Novossib, last summer was more like autumn or am I mistaken?
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 1 November 2012 10: 53
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            and in your Novossib past summer was more like autumn

            Here is such a shitty summer .....
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 1 November 2012 10: 58
              0
              Quote: Vadivak
              What a shitty summer ...

              Vadim, are you also from Novossibirsk?
              1. Vanek
                Vanek 1 November 2012 11: 09
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                and you have in Novossib


                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Vadim, are you also from Novossibirsk?



                NOVOSIBIRSK - two letters "C". smile

                Summer is like summer. We have summer here, now in the heat, then in the cold throws. We are used to it.
              2. Vadivak
                Vadivak 1 November 2012 12: 02
                +5
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Vadim, are you also from Novossibirsk?


                In the madhouse of the patient they ask: what season is it now? Crazy: summer ... -What summer? snow goes. - There’s a man in boots. There is an aunt in a fur coat wrapping herself. What summer is this ???

                -That's such a shitty summer
                1. Olaf555
                  Olaf555 2 November 2012 05: 09
                  0
                  )))))))))))))))))))). I have no words!
      2. serjant4
        serjant4 1 November 2012 13: 08
        +2
        There is God in the world, he sees everything ... So the punishment of God of the USA befell
        It’s a pity, of course, ordinary people ...
  3. vosovec
    vosovec 1 November 2012 09: 00
    +4
    The article is good, it even makes you want to "giggle viciously - losing your hands" (in relation to the United States).
    But seriously, in my opinion, there will be no global partnership without a serious external threat (history has shown this more than once) After all, in this case, the "top" will have to share power and authority, and they do not like it
    1. borisst64
      borisst64 1 November 2012 09: 25
      +6
      And what kind of partnership? One side is real goods, and the other is green waste paper.
      1. EropMyxoMop
        EropMyxoMop 1 November 2012 12: 48
        +6
        People are pleased to amuse their pride, but under the current government, we are the economic vassal of the United States. a putler can say anything, but as long as he feeds the west they will need him as a general governor of subject areas. Russia sells oil while actually receiving 40% of the money, the rest is paid to the west. After the sale, the lion’s share doesn’t even return to Russia. It is deposited in Western banks in the form of a stabilization fund. These are American securities that our Ministry of Finance likes so much. It makes sense to create an egg if, in the event of a global crisis, these securities become one of the first to depreciate. That is, your money will not be sterilized in this way. working for our economy while constantly repeating about attracting Western investment, where is the logic? most of the investments are just loans that Western banks give to Russian enterprises at interest, while these loans are secured by the Russian state. Our money is received from our enterprises and the West has interest, and Russia also has to pay a penalty if payments are delayed by phenomenal logistics. Of the part of the funds that is returned to Russia, the part again goes west as loan payments, because we have no other money besides petrodollars. Another part will be stolen from the budget and redirected to the west in the form of personal funds of our many officials. This money will also be scrolled by their corporations for profit. For example, they will buy enterprises at a bargain price or take a couple of deposits on shares with the next oligarch. They think which plane the West is equipping their army with new equipment. The only idiotic economic system we have is in Africa. And it’s impossible to think of joining the WTO for a raw materials economy. The only sensible economist was fired as soon as the press stated that our the economy is ruined purposefully for the sake of Western corporations. Moreover, even those funds that still get to our real sector are invested anywhere but in the modernization (this word was widely used by one lover of iPhones) of our industry. Chubais assimilates billions with zero exhaust.
        And now gentlemen, faithful Putiners can begin to minus.
        1. Kshatriy
          Kshatriy 1 November 2012 20: 28
          +2
          Quote: EropMyxoMop
          And now gentlemen, faithful Putiners can begin to minus.

          Nuu .. on this forum there are not so many "gentlemen - true Putintsev" (... for example, I am not like that)
          .........However!......

          Quote: EropMyxoMop
          but under the current government we are the economic vassal of the usa. a putler can say anything, but as long as he feeds the west they will need him as a general governor of subject areas.

          Saying "A" ... say "B" .... Offer a coherent doctrine of the development of Russia for the next YEAR, but even for 100 days .... (Putin proposed it! And more than 50% of the Russian People voted for him !!! I, as a citizen of Russia - I DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to challenge the choice of my fellow citizens !!!) Now a dear question for you .... And who are you ????? To call VV Putin an obscene nickname "putler" ????? As a person - I respect him (Putin) for 4 DAN in JU-DO .... In this aspect, he is an AUTHORITY for me !!!! And what about the vassal with the GDP is not so simple ... Gorbachev, Yeltsin with the co-company (as I understand you belong to this cohort by all means ???) .... no words sold EVERYTHING wholesale and retail ... But that is not the question for you ..... It hurts you, like a chameleon, veiled, and I do not understand your political platform ... Can you clarify ???

          Quote: EropMyxoMop
          . The only sensible economist was fired as soon as he stated in the press that our economy was ruined purposefully to please Western corporations
          ...
          Are you talking about Kudrin ????? Amanita in the juice itself and it looks like you glut oneself with them, like a moose dried during a rut ????
          1. EropMyxoMop
            EropMyxoMop 1 November 2012 21: 10
            +2
            Kudrin sensible economist? Yes you are a comedian. I had in mind Mikhail Gennadievich Delyagin.
            PS Do not tell anyone that the economist’s curl do not make people laugh.
            PPS hump, eb Putler is one company. And I don’t understand why you breed them in different barricades.
            1. Kshatriy
              Kshatriy 2 November 2012 19: 02
              -1
              Quote: EropMyxoMop
              PPS hump, eb Putler is one company. And I don’t understand why you breed them in different barricades.

              I once asked you: "Who are you? On what grounds do you despise more than 50% of the Russian people ????? They chose Putin, but not" putlera ".... understood daaaaaaaaaaaa ??????? ? (for me, there is only one Ruler in Russia whom I will go to the elections for, or how else ---- Vladimir Vasilyevich Kvachkov ... Is it available, my dear, explained his political affiliation ?????)

              Quote: EropMyxoMop
              Yes you are a comedian. I had in mind Mikhail Gennadievich Delyagin.

              When you have someone .... and write .... Why skherishsya ???
              Quote: Kshatriya
              It hurts you, like a chameleon, to be veiled, and not understand me your political platform

              And why didn’t I get an answer to such a simple question ??????
              1. EropMyxoMop
                EropMyxoMop 2 November 2012 19: 58
                +1
                Hover the mouse cursor over the nickname, press the left button, in the profile frame that appears, select the section “Latest comments”, repeat the actions with the cursor and the button. Everything can be studied “political platform”, “what to be stupid? request
                1. Kshatriy
                  Kshatriy 2 November 2012 21: 19
                  -1
                  Quote: EropMyxoMop
                  .Everything can be studied '' political platform '' what to blunt?

                  Yeah ..... I’ll drop everything and study your comments .. you’re such a funny cat in a cap .....
            2. 4 November 2012 18: 55
              0
              Quote: EropMyxoMop
              PPS hump, eb putler is one company

              I don’t understand why you wrote them down in one company?
        2. 4 November 2012 18: 53
          0
          EropMyxoMop,
          Amanita you are fly agaric.
          1) Tribute is paid by all countries of the world, someone with blood (Georgia, the Baltic states, fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq), someone with money (like us)
          2) About 40%. lay out the calculations.
          3) In fact, we entered the WTO in the early 90s, when we fully opened our markets. Now we are more or less bargaining for ourselves acceptable conditions, which we demanded in return.
          The only thing you're right about is that Russia is not a fully sovereign state, we are in occupation, and as a result (one of the consequences) we cannot pursue an independent monetary policy (for example, the same Central Bank).
          And about Putin it is not necessary, thanks to this person Russia still exists as a state entity. Thanks to him, in the list of American creditors (payers of tribute), we went from third place to 10th. Thanks to him, Russia again became a subject, not an object of international politics. Thanks to him, in spite of everything (the Minister of Defense, for example, as they say will not be mentioned by night), we still have the army and the Strategic Missile Forces that have not been destroyed.

          "Politics is the art of the possible"
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 1 November 2012 10: 04
      +5
      Quote: vosovec
      The article is good, it even makes you want to "giggle viciously - losing your hands" (in relation to the United States).


      Some people believe that the only products that are produced in the United States are dollars. This is not so because; the United States is a country with a huge and highly developed industry and highly productive agriculture. In fact, the United States can live and work only for itself and at the expense of its resources. oil, the United States imports (its own is sealed in the state reserve).
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 1 November 2012 10: 11
        +9
        Quote: Vadivak
        In fact, the United States can live and work only for itself and at the expense of its resources.

        No, they won’t be able to, the United States earns a dollar, and they eat two. Industry is brought to China and hell knows where. The rural economy is certainly serious, but everything is tied to exchange trading, speculation is the main income. When the state is able to provide itself, it will not fit into such crazy debts , artificially maintaining a high standard of living, provides a printing press.
        1. F117
          F117 2 November 2012 08: 28
          +2
          The main income of the USA is not industry, which, as you correctly emphasized, has already "both feet" in China, and not agriculture, but resources obtained from the occupied countries, a la colonies, and the sale of weapons to the belligerent parties, now such places, especially there are many in Africa (and what a long way to go Syria).
          1. Karish
            Karish 2 November 2012 08: 35
            +3
            Quote: F117
            The main income of the United States is not industry, which, as you correctly emphasized, has already "both feet" in China, and not agriculture, but resources obtained from the occupied countries, a la colonies, and the sale of weapons to the belligerent parties, now such places, especially there are many in Africa (and what a long way to go Syria).

            Baby talk. US GDP 14 trillion bucks, 25% of global GDP. In addition to oil (in order to maintain its reserves), it does not purchase almost any resources. Arms is sold at 40 billion a year, far from 14 trillion. So leave the tales.
            In the US, only 14 million cars are produced per year, calculate the amount fool
        2. nutmeg
          nutmeg 3 November 2012 14: 50
          +1
          read on this site itself, about how, thanks to the 'shale revolution' from China, production is massively returning to the United States. And in general, the guys will finish the game with this Kmtay, by God, you will play it out, then you yourself will cry ...
          1. 4 November 2012 19: 06
            0
            Quote: nutmeg
            read on this site itself, about how thanks to the 'shale revolution'

            What kind of revolution? Shale?
            To whom this topic is really interesting, here is a serious analysis of it:
            http://angi.ru/news.shtml?oid=2769073
            http://angi.ru/news.shtml?oid=2756903

            And which industries are massively returning? Can you see a short list?
      2. vosovec
        vosovec 1 November 2012 10: 18
        +3
        Let me disagree with you on some points. On their own, if the United States were to adopt a new isolation policy, they would no longer be able to, because they themselves had taken many industries outside their territory, and setting up a new one needed specialists and time.
        And I agree with you about strategic resources, in particular oil
        And the "desire to giggle" in my previous comment is directed mainly at their political course of "unipolarity and hegemony"
        1. Karish
          Karish 2 November 2012 18: 18
          0
          Quote: vosovec
          Let me disagree with you on some points. On their own, if the United States were to adopt a new isolation policy, they would no longer be able to, because they themselves had taken many industries outside their territory, and setting up a new one needed specialists and time.

          You probably do not understand the US GDP - 14 trillion bucks. This is what is produced in the United States. That which is produced abroad is not included in the GDP.
          Gross domestic product (Gross Domestic Product), generally accepted reduction - GDP (English GDP) is a macroeconomic indicator reflecting the market value of all final goods and services (that is, intended for direct consumption), produced per year in all sectors of the economy on the territory of the state for consumption, export and accumulation, regardless of the nationality of the used factors of production. This concept was first proposed in 1934 by Simon Kuznets.

          Domestically, not at subsidiaries abroad. What's not clear ?
          Products and services for 14 trillion bucks, who produces them? Aliens. In America, more than 300 million people, unemployment 8%, where does everyone work? In China, or what?
          Enough of amusing yourself with illusions, America works and works in such a way that God forbid everyone. I have been to America and I know what I'm talking about more than once.
      3. Kaa
        Kaa 1 November 2012 11: 57
        +3
        Quote: Vadivak
        In fact, the USA can live and work only for itself and at the expense of its resources /

        Could. Before. Now the lion's share of industry has been brought to developing countries (it used to sound like it was humiliating, but now, on the contrary, countries are DEVELOPING rather than degrading, as some will not be called), in the heyday there are only high-tech industries that rely on the basis of low-tech ... which are abroad, and whose products are bought for candy wrappers
        -dollars. These dollars are supported only by the image of a "peacemaker". And no one tried to connect the sort of "unconnected" - the first and second events of this article, that is, the inability of the United States to react to the events of 08.08.08 and the bank collapse? But they are interconnected, the incipient financial crisis did not give the United States the opportunity to get involved on the side of Georgia, and such an outcome of the Georgian provocation, which the whole world saw, served as a signal that the "peacekeeping" role of the United States had plummeted and it was not worth supporting American banks strongly - that's their collapse. They can support themselves - I am sincerely glad for them, they will not be lost when the debts are paid off. The main thing is not to allow the inclusion of the formula "the war will write off everything," including debts, then let them produce ... produce ... produce. Only 1 GDP per year needs to be given - and life from scratch ... except for the debts of private companies and individuals. As of the winter of 2011, the volume of all US debt is - $ 56,4 trillion. That is, it is still necessary to produce, produce and produce ... another 3-4 years. And there is nothing. Would anyone believe this?
        1. Tirpitz
          Tirpitz 1 November 2012 14: 55
          +2
          Quote: Kaa
          The main thing is to prevent the inclusion of the formula "the war will write off everything"

          Everything goes according to this scenario. We need to find a new "Hitler" and start a war (without nuclear weapons, preferably).
          1. Kaa
            Kaa 1 November 2012 17: 28
            +3
            Quote: Tirpitz
            We need to find a new "Hitler" and start a war

            Let me guess ... Hussein is dead, Gaddafi, Bin Laden are also ... not passed. Assad ... is somehow shallow, Putin is scary, just like the "group of Chinese comrades", is it really Ahmadinijad ?
    3. alexng
      alexng 1 November 2012 12: 16
      +2
      The USA lived ... for this, they disappeared. They wanted a lot, but what they wanted tends to end and now ... hep end is no longer expected.
    4. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 1 November 2012 20: 53
      +1
      By the way, therefore, the option is not ruled out that Russia and China will be kept for scapegoats. Like, they are against it jointly, but individually, no, no, yes, help, so that they would be completely wrong, after which they will have to fight with each other. And at least some kind of balance
  4. late
    late 1 November 2012 09: 06
    +3
    As the king of Thessaly used to say in the Hollywood film "Troy": -You can't conquer the whole world, Agamemnon. He is great even for you .. According to the plot of the film, it turned out that you can try having such a warrior as Achilles. But the glory of Achilles went hand in hand with his death ...
  5. Averias
    Averias 1 November 2012 09: 20
    0
    I’ll say a little out of topic. Yesterday, for the sake of neighing, I watched a REN-TV program about world government, the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. Well ento cool so cool. Well, just a brain takeaway. It turns out that the Rothschilds are at war with the Rockefellers (they discovered America), the Rothschilds realized that the collapse of the US financial system is no longer tans, they are betting on the creation of the Golden Yuan. They would have brought them to China, attention - 50 thousand tons of gold !!!. In how. And the Chinese mean suckers. It is generally as possible. I understand that the REN-TV channel is a client of psychiatry and one can already write dissertations about the mental sanity of Anna Chapman and Prokopenko. But what would it be?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 November 2012 09: 27
      +5
      Quote: Averias
      They would have brought them to China, attention - 50 thousand tons of gold !!!. In how. And the Chinese mean suckers.

      Firstly, where so much gold comes from, and secondly, China is playing its game, just like the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. Such people have no homeland. Only profit and profit.
      1. Averias
        Averias 1 November 2012 09: 37
        +3
        So I was stunned by such numbers. But China itself is doing its normal thing, they do not hide the fact that they are not averse to becoming world leaders. Therefore, why the hell do they need the Rothschilds with their gold, China itself is very good at buying gold.
    2. Manager
      Manager 1 November 2012 09: 56
      +7
      Quote: Averias
      I’ll say a little out of topic. Yesterday, for the sake of neighing, I watched a REN-TV program about world government, the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. Well ento cool so cool. Well, just a brain takeaway. It turns out that the Rothschilds are at war with the Rockefellers (they discovered America), the Rothschilds realized that the collapse of the US financial system is no longer tans, they are betting on the creation of the Golden Yuan. They would have brought them to China, attention - 50 thousand tons of gold !!!. In how. And the Chinese mean suckers. It is generally as possible. I understand that the REN-TV channel is a client of psychiatry and one can already write dissertations about the mental sanity of Anna Chapman and Prokopenko. But what would it be?



      I used to think that TV3 is the most fantastic yellow press channel.
      However, in the past few months, REN TV has become just a nightmarish channel. Such nonsense is carried that makes you sick. They recently said that the Ilyuminati are aliens and they rule our planet. That Bush blinks at them like a reptile, In general, oh, these tales to me, oh, these storytellers to me !!!

      Advice to everyone. Watch only documentary channels and you can watch another Star there or something similar. The rest is all such rubbish. ORT (channel 1) essentially became as yellow and fantastic as REN TV and TV3. It’s worth at least news on the first to see. They will show everything. And like a Bear in a fly ... she gave birth to a bear cub, and how a valiant precinct rescued a kitten from a tree. But they will not say nichrome because of really important circumstances occurring not on the planet.
      In general, not for .... eat your brain. Read newspapers, climb the internet, watch "STAR" and documentary channels. And most importantly gentlemen! Read books!
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 1 November 2012 14: 19
        +6
        Guys, are you experimenting with yourself while watching REN-TV? It's a channel for potential suicides, latent fagots and outright psychos!
        Take care of yourself, we still have to correct the demographics! And they even show adult films such that not only an erection, but also an appetite disappears!
    3. homosum20
      homosum20 4 November 2012 18: 07
      0
      How are you right. Finally, everyone explained. I have long suspected that the world is flat and resting on elephants. And the stars are nailed to the sky with carnations. And the rest is nonsense of psychiatric clients and a Jewish conspiracy.
  6. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 1 November 2012 09: 23
    0
    Vadivak,
    Quote: Vadivak
    They can handle it, but God forbid we have?


    And we can handle it! And we will not stand on ceremony =))
    1. slav4ikus
      slav4ikus 1 November 2012 10: 02
      +9
      unless Bulldog Udaltsov’s dogs and other obscenity come to power
      1. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 1 November 2012 21: 10
        +3
        Quote: slav4ikus
        unless Bulldog Udaltsov’s dogs and other obscenity come to power

        God forbid, even in a dream such "lewdness" will be seen ..... brrr ...
        Udaltsov - (Tyutyukin, the great-grandson of his grandmother "countrywoman" ... oranges will not be born from an aspen ...)
      2. stariy
        stariy 1 November 2012 22: 49
        0
        Quote: slav4ikus
        bulk udaltsovy dogs

        And this is definitely a disaster
  7. omsbon
    omsbon 1 November 2012 09: 56
    +2
    The situation in the world, at the moment, is associated as follows: the United States is moving across the abyss along the rope, while juggling with other countries, and Russia and China have more chances to cross to the other side on the swinging board.
  8. Lavrik
    Lavrik 1 November 2012 10: 06
    +2
    The past four years have shown that the influence of the West, and the United States in particular, is declining. This is stated by K. Rice (USA is "tired"). In his last book six months ago, Z. Brzezinski predicted the collapse of the United States in a few decades. And only Russia and Turkey (?) Will be able to save the West (this is Brzezinski). Ahead is a multipolar world, the centers of which should be the United States, China, Russia, India and other countries. Therefore, the zone of interests of Russia now is the south (Wed Asia, the Caucasus, etc.). That is, where we can spread our influence without seriously affecting the stronger players - the United States and China.
  9. TUNISIA
    TUNISIA 1 November 2012 10: 22
    +1
    I wonder how the United States will pay off its external debts worth $ 15 trillion. I present such a fantastic picture when US assets for debt are nationalized by other states and America is cut economically))) Now they have only tax revenues from sawn enterprises from income)))
    1. demel2
      demel2 1 November 2012 11: 13
      +1
      Interestingly, and who will present them? Is Russia really?
      1. TUNISIA
        TUNISIA 1 November 2012 11: 17
        0
        Theoretically, almost the whole world can present. Including Russia for several hundred billion. China in general for 1,1 trillion)))
        1. 11Goor11
          11Goor11 1 November 2012 13: 09
          +1
          TUNISIA
          Theoretically, almost the whole world can present.

          That is why the US military budget is larger than that of other countries.
          It is unlikely that "today / tomorrow" someone can really impose their own conditions on this gang of gopniks. Moreover, half of the "other boys" grovel in front of this gang and follow all orders. So now about two-thirds of the real forces are behind them.
          1. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 1 November 2012 20: 55
            0
            And in our place, in shock, it was customary to arrange a "dark" one ...
            1. zh1
              zh1 2 November 2012 21: 45
              0
              "Dark" for the United States, how's that? Shoot specials. charge, so as not to identify who and where?
  10. Limonad
    Limonad 1 November 2012 11: 21
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Such persons finally have no homeland. Only benefits and self-interest.

    Jews have no homeland!
    1. dusha233
      dusha233 2 November 2012 09: 41
      +1
      I do not agree, the Jews kicked off their homeland among the Palestinians. Here, whoever has no homeland is the case of the gypsies!
    2. zh1
      zh1 2 November 2012 21: 46
      0
      And the gypsies ...
  11. Narkom
    Narkom 1 November 2012 11: 38
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k4Z541YW3w&feature=player_embedded#! вчерашняя передача на рен-тв
  12. rate
    rate 1 November 2012 12: 06
    +1
    Historically, self-interest and rednecking have shown their logical outcome, into which it is transformed. In degradation. People do not need to take an example from them. And let the states remain a living example for posterity.
  13. Ascetic
    Ascetic 1 November 2012 12: 12
    +5
    Guardian columnist Sheimas Milne believes that the first news of the end of the so-called New World Order came in 2008.


    Putin’s Munich speech at the start of Russia’s truly independent policy Munich Conference on Security Policy February 10, 2007
    “Russia is a country with more than a thousand-year history, and almost always it enjoyed the privilege of pursuing an independent foreign policy. We are not going to change this tradition today. ”
    -V. Putin.
    It was from this time that the leadership of the country departed from the liberal course aimed at the collapse of defense and the army. It was then that the country's leadership turned its attention to the military-industrial complex and the re-equipment of the army. Until that time, practically NOTHING had been done (I know this well because I still served in the strategic segment of the armed forces)
    The speech of Vladimir Putin provoked a polemic in the Western (primarily American) political circles about the resumption of the Cold War. The American delegates at the conference agreed that Putin’s speech included "the most aggressive expressions that any of the Russian leaders have made since the Cold War."
    All other events are just consequences of this "political reversal "
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 1 November 2012 21: 19
      +4
      Quote: Ascetic
      Putin’s Munich Speech Begins Russia to Begin Real Independent Policy

      Quote: Ascetic
      It was from this time that the leadership of the country departed from the liberal course aimed at the collapse of defense and the army.

      Speech still needs something to reinforce. In addition to the war with Georgia, there is nothing more to remember. Only such a political corpse could not answer such a spit in the whole face.
      The liberal course in the economy is continued. What is more liberal than joining the WTO with a commodity economy? Serdyukov - Minister of Defense, his reforms is what?
      Quote: Ascetic
      the country's leadership turned its eyes on the military-industrial complex and the re-equipment of the army.

      Real progress in 5 years? Minor deliveries and promises until 2020. Constant squabbles and scandals. Allocation of funds and their incompetent use.
      Quote: Ascetic
      Speech by Vladimir Putin provoked in the ....

      The Westerners may have caused controversy, but not for long. Summits, a friend of Berlusconi, trips with visits to Europe quickly smoothed over sharp corners. Putin's speech has become more in demand for our domestic consumption.
    2. Che
      Che 2 November 2012 07: 35
      +1
      Ascetic,
      + Regarding aggressiveness, I do not agree, independence is more suitable. Russia is least like an aggressor.
  14. anchonsha
    anchonsha 1 November 2012 12: 19
    +1
    A wonderful article, thanks. Both the conclusion and the main article indicate to the peoples of the world how to move on. All the same, Russia, Putin is like a bone in the throat of the American military. The people of the United States themselves will not solve any issues in the life of their country, including in the world. So it is delivered in the USA that people are cut off from politics. They need shows and bread for the people. This is the trouble of the American people. The bigwigs who fight for the possession of the world rule there.
  15. Slevinst
    Slevinst 1 November 2012 12: 56
    +2
    Quote: TUNISIA
    I wonder how the United States will pay off its external debts worth $ 15 trillion. I present such a fantastic picture when US assets for debt are nationalized by other states and America is cut economically))) Now they have only tax revenues from sawn enterprises from income)))

    may they not repay debts, who can demand them? who will take a chance? China will say give back the debt to the United States, there’s nothing we will have to live happily ever after, and nobody will risk a strong army attacking the USA, it will be difficult to shut off oxygen too, they will attack some small countries with rich resources, the USA is a locust that only eats at the expense of others. they are not going to give a debt, I'm sure of it. they will also spend money on the army, thereby ensuring themselves safety from those who should
    1. WW3
      WW3 1 November 2012 13: 04
      +6
      Quote: Slevinst
      may they not repay debts, who can demand them?

      Former US Federal Treasury Alan Greenspen says what we can give back any debt, we will print the money as much as necessary ... it was said in the context of S&P that lowered the US credit rating from AAA to AA +, he called it complete bullshit ...

      The picture is a bit dated but the essence is clear by September 2012 US public debt reaches $ 16,015 trillion
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 1 November 2012 14: 32
        +3
        Quote: WW3
        we will print money as much as necessary.

        Here is the answer
      2. arkady149
        arkady149 1 November 2012 23: 07
        +3
        Here's a ghoul, you know, I was sitting, measuring a pack of bucks with a caliper, wondering "how much 16 trillion in kilometers will be", and he took a convincing demotivator. I praise "+".
    2. Kshatriy
      Kshatriy 1 November 2012 21: 14
      0
      Quote: Slevinst
      they will also spend money on the army, thereby ensuring themselves safety from those who should

      I even agree with you !!! ++++ ....
  16. WW3
    WW3 1 November 2012 13: 23
    +6
    USA - the world gendarme with the help of the dollar and its military power dictate its will. But the world is not unipolar thanks to Russia and China. And in contrast to the dollar, the EU countries introduced the euro .... Russia needs to unite its neighbors with the help of the Russian ruble as well. Let Russian gas be paid for in Russian rubles and not in American dollars. Nothing to support Uncle Sam!
    1. TUNISIA
      TUNISIA 1 November 2012 16: 13
      +4
      The idea was this: to conduct all payments with Russia in rubles through the St. Petersburg exchange. On this little idea was buried. Apparently, our Americans asked very strongly not to do this. So we still trade for dollars. But it would be very, very effective and profitable, especially if the central bank included the mechanism of artificial regulation of the national currency exchange rate within the limits of admissibility. This is where it was possible to gouge oil several percent higher than its price on the London or New York exchanges due to the difference in exchange rates.
      1. WW3
        WW3 1 November 2012 16: 49
        +7
        Americans look out for their interests around the world and defend the dollar with the help of "carrots and sticks." Not so long ago Gaddafi fell under the "whip", when he wanted to abandon the payment in dollars, pressure was also exerted on Hugo Chavez ...

        The recent global economic crisis has forced several states to talk about the introduction of interstate settlements in gold. The main initiator of the rejection of settlements in dollars and euros was the Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, who called on the Arab and African world to switch to settlements in a single currency - the gold dinar.

        On this financial base, Colonel Gaddafi proposed the creation of a single African state with an Arab-Negro population of 200 million people. The ideas of creating a single gold currency and the unification of African countries into one powerful federal structure have been actively supported over the past year by a number of Arab states and almost all African states. Opponents of the idea were South Africa and the leadership of the League of Arab States.

        Such initiatives of Libya caused the most negative assessment of the United States and the European Union. According to ex. French President Sarkozy, "Libyans have swung at the financial security of mankind." Repeated exhortations of the leader of the Libyan revolution did not produce any results: Gaddafi took more and more new steps aimed at creating a united Africa.

        To hide the true causes of military influence on Libya, two false versions are offered:

        - official - protection of human rights,

        - unofficial - an attempt to seize oil from Gaddafi.

        http://www.anti-slovensk.info/Terror/Chego_oni_pricepilis_k_Kaddafi/
  17. djon3volta
    djon3volta 1 November 2012 13: 36
    -2
    read it, very useful fiction. I advise everyone who enjoys geopolitics and is opposed to the United States.
    http://www.nao-bum.ru/files/Engdahl__Ful_Spectrum_Dominance.htm

    as well as this, it’s completely fly away !!!
    http://www.dynacon.ru/content/articles/526/?sphrase_id=16826
  18. Centaurus
    Centaurus 1 November 2012 14: 00
    +5
    For all the seemingly feigned "goodness" and "decency" of the United States, at this period they are most reminiscent of the Behemoth, a patient with a stomach ulcer. To which all the doctors are already hinting that it's time to go on a diet and reduce appetites, But! ..
    A gluttonous and insatiable animal still roars, bangs its paws, clicks with staggering teeth and wants more, more ... Not only do you see the problems that exist already, it still wants to.
    Russia and China, in this case, are more reminiscent of experienced hunters who, little by little, knit a net for the beast and wait until it gets stuck deeper in the swamp, and it will gain other internal sores. Then the network will be thrown. That would be for sure, so to speak.


    Ps

    Only! .. The most important rule for a hunter is not to swap places with game. soldier
    Ears on top of the head, Tanks are ready ... the one who knows how to wait for the right moments wins.
  19. Slevinst
    Slevinst 1 November 2012 16: 05
    +1
    Quote: djon3volta

    read it, very useful fiction. I advise everyone who enjoys geopolitics and is opposed to the United States.
    http://www.nao-bum.ru/files/Engdahl__Ful_Spectrum_Dominance.htm

    as well as this, it’s completely fly away !!!
    http://www.dynacon.ru/content/articles/526/?sphrase_id=1682

    Well, thanks, I read the second link and faith in the government turned my back on me. I don’t know where the truth is. But everything looks convincing, now I won’t sleep.
    1. USNik
      USNik 1 November 2012 17: 56
      +2
      read it, very useful fiction. I advise everyone who enjoys geopolitics and is opposed to the United States.
      http://www.nao-bum.ru/files/Engdahl__Ful_Spectrum_Dominance.htm

      as well as this, it’s completely fly away !!!
      http://www.dynacon.ru/content/articles/526/?sphrase_id=1682

      Well, thanks, I read the second link and faith in the government turned my back on me. I don’t know where the truth is. But everything looks convincing, now I won’t sleep.

      Slevinst don't be nervous so comrade djon3volta is pumping up.
      The first link shows the inventions of a good American political scientist Engdahl, but here for some reason he "lets gas" in the form of the very first chapter with a flashy title "War in Georgia - Putin drops the bomb" ...
      On the second link, the honored scammer-munhausen, retired and concurrently doctor-minerological-geological sciences, and at the same time an academician of the non-scientific academy of sciences of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, speaks and says that "we will all die." (it is especially funny to look at the drowning states and read his conclusions that Russia and Africa are a scribe ...)
      Or are you both just feeding here?
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta 1 November 2012 18: 52
        -4
        want to say that in the second link all lies, such as there is no cooling and cataclysms and never will be? and in general everything that is written there is nonsense? from beginning to end lies and tales)))
        it’s a pity that time is going slowly, otherwise I would see what happens, for example, in 5-7 years, right after 5-7 days, and then we would discuss here, though it’s true or got mixed up.
  20. KRAVEN333
    KRAVEN333 1 November 2012 17: 14
    0
    I really thought that in the picture Russia, with the US flag.
  21. Slevinst
    Slevinst 1 November 2012 18: 05
    +4
    USNik,
    What does it mean to feed? but I’m nervous because I don’t know the truth, you can catch the horror, you can be encouraged, but nobody really knows what and the conditions are interpreted by everyone in their own way, but I am a gullible person by nature and as a rule I trust people, though I learned from life that I don’t believe and I’m nervous for such a double attitude
  22. MG42
    MG42 1 November 2012 18: 27
    +2
    Masonic signs on a dollar bill

    Very informative
    http://www.us-dollar.ru/interesnoe-o-dollar/dollar-i-masony.html
    The pyramid is presented as a symbol of the Egyptian priests that rule the world, and the all-seeing eye symbolizes power, mystery and miracle.

    So what does the Masons have to do with it? And despite the fact that this very pyramid, firstly, consists of thirteen brick steps (the number of Masons) and, secondly, it is aligned, which makes the usual Egyptian pyramid a sign of "free masons". For such a “direct” pyramid is a symbol of the unified world order established by them. And finally, the eye itself, enclosed in a Masonic triangle.
    1. MG42
      MG42 1 November 2012 18: 33
      +5
      But our Ukrainian money - 500 hryvnias also see a characteristic sign
      triangle and all-seeing eye
  23. wolverine7778
    wolverine7778 1 November 2012 20: 28
    0
    Another obituary in the USA)
  24. Kshatriy
    Kshatriy 1 November 2012 21: 33
    0
    ......................... "However, does the superpowers have the political will, ready to accept a new historical version of development? ........ ............ "
    However, today I can’t (IMHO ...) list the superpowers .... yesterday everything was ... very simple ....... (everything flows .. everything changes) ...... Publications +++
  25. georg737577
    georg737577 3 November 2012 22: 57
    0
    Summing up the comments, you understand - there is NO alternative to the new world war.
    1. MG42
      MG42 4 November 2012 18: 36
      +2
      There is always an alternative - at least fragile but PEACE!
      <A thin world is better than a good quarrel>
      But an armored train with full ammunition is always on the siding! wink