"Science to win" of the third millennium

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"Science to win" of the third millennium


Great underwater wall of China


About the fact that China is building the Great Underwater Wall, and about the aggravation of relations between China, Taiwan and the United States, we already wrote in 2018 and even in 2011 (Great Underwater Wall). Now the situation is getting worse. This summer, Chinese submarines flooded the waters of the South China Sea, which naturally causes concern in Taiwan and the United States.



US intelligence recently released information about China's large-scale investment in the development of underwater fleet, means of detecting enemy submarines and barriers against them. Moreover, with this in mind, the structure of the country's military command is being reorganized.

In 2030, China's submarine fleet should have 76 units, compared to the current figure of 66. Of the active submarines, there are 6 nuclear-powered with ballistic missiles, and the same number of strike nuclear submarines. The number of Type-039 Chinese missile submarines that are barely visible to detection systems outside of China is unknown.

The rest appear to be diesel. The advanced generation of boats Type-039 can be used for blockade. Who is China going to blockade? Apparently, the ports of Taiwan. Accept it as a fact - China has long overtaken the United States in terms of the size of the fleet.

The PRC Navy today is 742 warships against the American 460. Against the background of the deployment of bases on the islands of the South China Sea, such militarization is becoming a nightmare not only for Taiwan, but also for the United States, which also has its own interests there (and not only related with Taiwan).

And this despite the fact that Washington has always pursued certain rather aggressive interests in the region, but its military policy has been relatively stable. Almost the only exception, of course, was the long-term war in Vietnam.

China can use its advantage at any moment. Its fast-growing economy makes it possible for it to maintain control over Taiwan in the event of its takeover by force. However, whether there will be an end to the existence of the “two Chinas” is a separate conversation. But the technologies used by the sides of the confrontation are now the most interesting.


In general, with the superiority of China in the number of ships, the United States has the opportunity to win the conflict and maintain control over the region, since Chinese sailors, unlike American ones, do not have experience in real combat operations. But China's increase in the use of high technology in the fleet, especially submarines, is incomparable with the United States, not to mention Taiwan, in terms of scale. Taiwan generally has only four submarines.

Unidentified flying but underwater object


The United States began to think about the Chinese advantage in October 2021, when, during an international exercise in the South China Sea, one of the most modern and secret American nuclear submarines collided with an unknown obstacle, as a result of which 11 members of its crew were injured. The US Navy was quick to say that the submarine ran into some kind of underwater rock, which was caused by a human factor.

This was said even before the publication of the results of the investigation. In the Chinese Ministry of Defense, they hinted that there was nothing to approach their territorial waters, otherwise it would be worse. However, given the area where the incident occurred, which is part of the Great Underwater Wall zone, the boat could have run into a Chinese hydroacoustic station.

But everything was yet to come. The real hype was made by the information that quantum technologies have come into play. In late 2021 and early 2022, China's arsenal of hydroacoustics, designed to detect enemy submarines, was replenished with a quantum system, which can also be used to improve missile guidance and increase strike accuracy.

American submarines and some NATO submarines move with noise only five decibels higher than the noise of the sea, which allowed Swedish submariners to destroy American acoustic detection systems during the exercises. However, quantum devices are much more sensitive.

The NATO countries and Russia do not have such installations, research was conducted, in particular, in Australia, but the first prototypes appeared precisely in China. First of all, quantum devices are designed to detect the magnetic field emanating from a submarine.

Any medicine has side effects, and sometimes they are unexpectedly positive. The Chinese “submarine cure” is no exception. Scientists have found that quantum technology can be applied to the very same submarines. When navigating, modern submarines are guided by satellite data, which allows the enemy to jam these satellites.


Quantum technology, on the other hand, allows a submarine to navigate independently, without being tied to a satellite. Similarly, Chinese technology can be used to guide missiles. Quantum sensors can be placed not only on stationary devices on the seabed, where they are vulnerable to the enemy, but also on satellites. How to jam such satellites, American scientists have not yet figured out. China is also going to use quantum entanglement to encrypt communications with submarines.

"Earth-to-air", "air-to-air" and, finally, "water-to-air"


Naturally, Chinese quantum developments will give an incentive to Australian scientists to force the practical, rather than theoretical, creation of prototypes of such devices. However, recent events show that in its militarization of the South China Sea, the Celestial Empire is ahead of NATO in science-intensive technologies, not only in the field of quantum entanglement.

In August, the East China University of Science and Technology announced the creation of an unmanned submarine capable of rising from the surface of the sea into the air. Flight drone will be carried out at a speed of about 120 km / h. The only problem is that the drone cannot rise out of the water in case of strong waves.

Now developments are being carried out in the direction of creating a sliding mechanism before taking off on an air cushion on the surface of the sea, even during a storm. When submerged, such boats do not allow them to be detected by radars on enemy ships, and when taking off, by sonar. This allows computers on American ships to be overloaded to the point that they freeze.

In October of this year, China officially announced the start of the development of a project for a new two-medium weapon, a torpedo missile that can hit targets both under water and from the air, and, unlike a drone, will move at supersonic speed through the air.

Similar developments were already underway in the USA, the USSR and then in Russia, but they involved launching from a ship and landing with a parachute. The revolutionary nature of the Chinese idea is that a jet engine will be used in the torpedo rocket, which will increase speed compared to Russian and American counterparts.

Against this background, photos from American satellites showing the degree of militarization of artificial islands in the South China Sea no longer surprise anyone. They were published in November of this year, and China has been building these islands since 2013, and it was easy to guess for what purpose: to confirm their territorial claims to the sea area. In November, it emerged that China was continuing to build airfields and fixed anti-submarine facilities on the islands.


Obviously, if a war really breaks out in the South China Sea, then it will be waged by China with the help of the creation of new engineering structures and high technologies. Despite the fact that China is overpopulated, and its army is the largest in the world, the Chinese protect their fighters, emphasizing technological development.

At the same time, the US is not averse to risking human resources, as previous wars have shown. In this they do not differ from Russia or Ukraine. By and large, Russia's special operation in Ukraine is conducted by old-fashioned methods compared to a possible conflict in Southeast Asia, for which China is preparing.
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  1. +10
    29 November 2022 05: 59
    By and large, Russia’s special operation in Ukraine is being carried out using old-fashioned methods compared to a possible conflict in Southeast Asia, for which China is preparing

    Do the authors know how to look into the future?
    Don't say gop .... High-tech weapons, at the moment, are expensive and of course. And with the use of whatever the conflict starts, if it drags on, it will continue with the help of the good old infantry and artillery on land and ships and submarines with missiles and mines in the seas.
    1. +2
      29 November 2022 06: 08
      Quote: Mitroha
      And with the use of whatever the conflict starts, if it drags on, it will continue with the help of the good old infantry and artillery on land and ships and submarines with missiles and mines in the seas.

      Nevertheless, the war gives a powerful impetus to scientific and technological progress.
      1. +5
        29 November 2022 06: 36
        Unfortunately, only war and loot. The romanticism of discoveries and the thirst for knowledge are gone... The world is becoming a cynical degenerate
        1. +2
          29 November 2022 08: 01
          Well, when he wasn't...
          The text of your comment is too short and, in the opinion of the site administration, does not carry useful information.
      2. +4
        29 November 2022 15: 48
        It will start high-tech and end with gunboats from dry cargo ships and aircraft carriers from container ships and wolf packs from the DEP, here is a warrior of the third millennium from beginning to end.
      3. 0
        20 February 2023 20: 42
        Scientific progress develops funding. And the fact that politicians are motivated to shell out only one fear of being killed is just the idiocy of politicians and the cretinism of a society that respects only the power of the fist.
    2. -2
      29 November 2022 06: 48
      Quote: Mitroha
      High-tech weapons, at the moment, are expensive and of course. And with the use of whatever the conflict starts, if it drags on, it will continue with the help of the good old infantry and artillery

      The Luftwaffe lost several thousand pilots killed on the Eastern Front, but those pilots killed millions of Russians. American shells with radar fuses were very expensive to develop, but in World War 2 a self-propelled gun division with ammunition of such shells in a maneuver war on the Western Front mowed down a German infantry division in a day of battle. With the advent of jet fighters, piston fighters have become defenseless prey for them. 3 hundreds of drones for throwing grenades at enemy soldiers kill more enemy soldiers with grenades than 100 infantrymen with small arms fire, grenades and hand-to-hand combat, incurring fewer losses. Reconnaissance drones provide more information on the line of contact than all special forces and all reconnaissance units. Moreover, more modern weapons very quickly destroy less modern ones, undermining the enemy’s faith in victory and instilling faith in victory among soldiers with such weapons. Wars since the end of the 000th century have often been defined by the ability to defeat a professional and trained enemy army at the very beginning of the war. After its defeat, it can be very difficult with normally untrained reinforcements to defeat an enemy with war experience and trained in calm conditions.
      1. -2
        29 November 2022 07: 36
        Quote: gsev
        Moreover, more modern weapons very quickly destroy less modern ones, undermining the enemy’s faith in victory and instilling faith in victory among soldiers with such weapons.

        Indeed, it is time to give each infantryman a flock of drones. Everything goes to this.
      2. +18
        29 November 2022 08: 22
        Quote: gsev
        The Luftwaffe lost several thousand pilots killed on the Eastern Front, but those pilots killed millions of Russians.

        Taking into account the fact that losses from aviation in the Second World War only in individual operations reached 6,6%, and on average it tended to somewhere around 2%, in your opinion, did the USSR lose 100-150 million or what? And yes, the loss of the air force cannot be reduced solely to the pilots. The personnel serving them also died - all these BAO, air defense of airfields, cover forces, etc. And without them, the backlash pilots would not have caused any damage.
        Quote: gsev
        American shells with radar fuses were very expensive to develop, but in World War II, a self-propelled gun division with ammunition of such shells in a maneuver war on the Western Front mowed down a German infantry division in a day of battle.

        Where does this crazy fantasy come from, I don’t even want to ask. Shells with radio fuses were used in air defense, no one fired them at the infantry, and even about mowing someone out with divisions is generally complete nonsense.
        Quote: gsev
        With the advent of jet fighters, piston fighters have become defenseless prey for them.

        Nothing that in the battles of a piston fighter against a jet fighter during the Second World War, jet lost more cars? :))))
        1. -8
          29 November 2022 15: 55
          [quote = Andrey from Chelyabinsk] Shells with radio fuses were used in air defense, no one fired them at the infantry, and even mowing someone down with divisions is generally complete nonsense. [/ Quote]
          Read Belton Cooper's memoir, Death Traps. This is the same informative book about that war as A. Beck's Volokolamsk Highway. In the United States, it was believed that Hitler's appearance at the end of 1944 of mass jet aircraft and shells with radio fuses made the victory over Germany problematic. [quote] Given the fact that losses from aviation in the Second World War reached 6,6% only in certain operations [/ quote ] In Stalingrad alone, about 200 Russians perished in a day of bombing. If we add only those killed in Voronezh, Odessa, Leningrad, Sevastopol, Kursk, then there will probably be 000 million dead. quote] German aviation on the Eastern Front was a strong enemy until the very end. The British believed that on an equal footing their piston aircraft could fight German jets in a ratio of about 1:10. Then some tactical schemes made it possible to catch a jet fighter.
          1. +6
            29 November 2022 16: 23
            Quote: gsev
            In the United States, it was believed that Hitler's appearance at the end of 1944 of mass jet aircraft and shells with radio fuses made the victory over Germany problematic

            First, what does this have to do with the issue at hand? Secondly - well, the Americans were also mistaken in this, but what, in fact, did you want to discuss?
            Quote: gsev
            ] In Stalingrad alone, about 200 Russians perished in a day of bombing.

            Approximately - it's 200 according to one person, 000 - according to another, and all of these numbers contrast sharply with the much better documented bombing of German cities. In general, there is little confidence in these figures.
            Quote: gsev
            The British believed that on an equal footing their piston aircraft could fight German jets in a ratio of about 10:1.

            Do not confuse the concepts of "fight" and "incur losses." These are fundamentally different things.
            1. -5
              29 November 2022 20: 30
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Approximately - it's 200 according to one person, 000 - according to another, and all of these numbers contrast sharply with the much better documented bombing of German cities. In general, there is little confidence in these figures.

              We extrapolate the 400 population of Stalingrad and 000 dead in 20 day of bombing to 000 million people who found themselves in the zone of German aviation during the war. It is clear that Stalingrad was subjected to a particularly fierce attack by the Luftwaffe, but its residents had more chances to survive in the cellars of brick houses than in the wooden city of Dorogobuzh burned by German aircraft. I think to calculate those killed even in the USSR by German aircraft, the smaller number of those killed by aviation per day in Stalingrad can be safely multiplied by 1 and get 90 million.
              1. +7
                29 November 2022 22: 10
                Quote: gsev
                I think to calculate those killed even in the USSR by German aircraft, the smaller number of those killed by aviation per day in Stalingrad can be safely multiplied by 200 and get 4 million.

                And you can remember that the loss of the civilian population of Berlin, which was literally bombed into the ground (more than half a million tons of bombs), is estimated at 52 thousand people.
                Let me also remind you that the carpet bombing that affected approximately 1000 cities in Germany (1,4 million tons of bombs) claimed the lives of less than a million civilians. The upper estimate limit is over two million killed and wounded. And - mind you - the Allied carpet bombing was head and shoulders above the attempts of the Luftwaffe.
                1. -4
                  29 November 2022 23: 45
                  Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                  And - mind you - the Allied carpet bombing was head and shoulders above the attempts of the Luftwaffe.

                  US aviation began to effectively destroy the Germans only after it received bases in France and began to interact with the ground forces. A covered and camouflaged army is difficult to bomb from the air. And when she maneuvers and fights with the enemy ground army, it is much easier. As I understand it, statistics on the death of Soviet soldiers during the retreat of 1941-1942 were not really kept in the USSR. But it was at this time that the losses from the actions of German aviation were maximum. In addition, the main damage is caused by short-range aircraft capable of making several sorties per day and which are much larger than long-range bombers. Interpolating the city of Gorky for 3 million people, 600 were killed by bombs and about 200 later died of wounds. For a population of 90 million in enemy air coverage, this is interpolated at 25 killed. But this city was far from the front line. For Murmansk, approximately 000 dead and died of wounds in 400 per 1942 inhabitants. Interpolating for 120 million in the area of ​​​​German aviation, we get a figure of more than 000 dead civilians. That is, the losses from the action of German aviation could exceed a million people killed. After all, she basically acted on the troops.
                  1. +3
                    30 November 2022 08: 35
                    Quote: gsev
                    US aviation began to effectively destroy the Germans only after it received bases in France and began to interact with the ground forces.

                    Excuse me, are you not able to understand that the losses I have cited are the losses of the civilian population as a result of carpet bombing? What's with the military?
                    Quote: gsev
                    A covered and camouflaged army is difficult to bomb from the air.

                    Especially if no one even bombs it. It is a shame not to know that the strategic bombing of Germany was not aimed at defeating the troops.
                    Quote: gsev
                    As I understand it, statistics on the death of Soviet soldiers during the retreat of 1941-1942 were not really kept in the USSR. But it was at this time that the losses from the actions of German aviation were maximum

                    All this is insanely interesting, but there is an assessment of the historian who dealt with this issue and I am inclined to trust her a little more than the opinion of a person who does not quite understand what exactly the Allies bombed with carpet bombing.
                    Quote: gsev
                    For a population of 90 million in enemy air coverage, this is interpolated at 25 killed.

                    In this case, naive extrapolation is inapplicable, as it proceeds from the assumption of an equal bombing impact on 1000 people on average. And this assumption is deeply erroneous, the Germans did not bomb many cities and villages at all, in some cases they used incendiary bombs aimed at destroying the housing stock and not people, etc. Large cities (not all) were subjected to the most intense bombing, and to extrapolate them to the village of Kukuyevo ... Well, such an occupation.
                    Quote: gsev
                    we get a figure of more than 400 dead civilians

                    Well. Add to this the strength of 200 soldiers - and then you won’t get a million.
                    Quote: gsev
                    As I understand it, statistics on the death of Soviet soldiers during the retreat of 1941-1942 were not really kept in the USSR. But it was at this time that the losses from the actions of German aviation were maximum

                    Why do you think so?
                    1. -1
                      30 November 2022 14: 32
                      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                      And this assumption is deeply erroneous, the Germans did not bomb many cities and villages at all, in some cases they used incendiary bombs aimed at destroying the housing stock and not people, etc. Large cities (not all) were subjected to the most intense bombing, and extrapolate them to the village of Kukuyevo.

                      So for 75 years after the war, human losses were announced in numbers from 8 to 27 million people. Moreover, there is a feeling that Stalin deliberately lied less in the number of millions (he had to downplay the losses from the actions of German aviation in order to demonstrate to the United States that an air war against the USSR was not at all promising)
                      , which Putin and Yeltsin erroneously loudly voiced. Where did you get this from?
                      How do you imagine getting information about the proportions of those who died from various types of weapons in the boilers near Brody, Vyazma, Kyiv and Barvenkov? Where the German aviation operated most successfully, the losses were large and the structure of losses there is covered in complete darkness.
      3. +7
        29 November 2022 15: 59
        I poured porridge soup and salad with compote into a cup and mixed everything and it turned out to be a wash. You would have brought Timin with his losses 10 to 1 in favor of backlash vafe.
        The Luftwaffe lost several thousand pilots on the Eastern Front, but those pilots killed millions of Russians.
        Controversial statement
        American shells with radar fuses were very expensive to develop, but in World War II, a self-propelled gun division with ammunition of such shells in a maneuver war on the Western Front mowed down a German infantry division in a day of battle.
        By the end of 1945, 22 million fuses had been made in the United States. They were widely used by the Americans and the British in anti-aircraft artillery, but only in those situations where samples of radio fuses could not fall into the hands of the enemy. If the secret of radio fuses had been revealed by the Germans or the Japanese, then their use against Allied aviation could have caused enormous damage to the air forces of the anti-Hitler coalition. Therefore, the use of the fuse against enemy ground forces was held back until the end of 1944 for reasons of secrecy.
      4. +2
        29 November 2022 18: 01
        Kind.
        Personally, I have not heard of any sao with a radio fuse during WWII
        Well, I know the d30 cannon with a radio fuse that should explode at a height. But he's in the 70s.
        And where did you get the statistics that 100 in battle kill less than 000 mavics with grenades?
        And the reconnaissance task is not a drone, they reveal disguised targets. They make the way for future soldiers of equipment.
        For example, in the NWO zone, as far as I know, the lines are guarded as follows.
        In a forest plantation under the ground with a covered roof, a man sits on the surface, stands a tripod with a power bank on it, a body and a cable or wifi, and looks at his field of view.

        You can’t figure out such a position with any drone, if scouts figure out such a secret.
        It is based on human experience wherever you yourself put the secret, and on a good understanding of the signs.

        If, as under Stalin, there would have been 1 guns to the front for 150 km of the front, then thanks to the fire shaft, some trenches would not have been saved, and the fortified area near Donetsk would have already been overcome.
        We have 2 guns per km of front. Front 1500 km, total 3000 guns, one gun 152 caliber + + logistics.
        Calculation D-20 8 people + logistics is the same.
        More money was allocated for military assistance to Ukraine in 9 months than our entire military budget for the entire year.

        But this war is still different, thanks to the copter, the soldiers almost did not use small arms, thanks to the drones, the targets are opened earlier and the UAVs are adjusted, the battles are fought at 2x-3xm.
        1. -3
          29 November 2022 20: 35
          Quote: Sergey Romanchenko
          And where did you get the statistics that 100 in battle kill less than 000 mavics with grenades?

          Taiwanese retired officers on Russian resources boast that Taiwan has begun supplying special drones to Ukraine capable of dropping several grenades with a capacity of between 60mm and 82mm each in a raid. As I understand it, it is planned to supply over 1000 such devices. How do you imagine waging a mobile war when they hang over the advancing troops?
          1. -1
            29 November 2022 23: 20
            Ka52 and Mi 28, free hunting for drones, in order to pull even 2 mines from a tray, you need the appropriate thrust, and these are the dimensions, which means you can see them better, my starshaks after training for beer shot at shells from small things from 50 m. Therefore, I I don’t think that a drone cannot be shot down from a machine gun by a few slightly above average shooters.
    3. +6
      29 November 2022 07: 13
      and ships and submarines with missiles and mines in the seas.


      Well, how these "strategists" fight with ships, they have already shown, using the example of "Moscow", a ship without air cover wassat . Did World War II teach you nothing? Although yes, what can you learn from the Yankees. negative
      1. 0
        29 November 2022 11: 25
        And how would air cover help? And how to provide it around the clock? And most importantly, how to provide it? Is there a Hawk Ai in the fleet?
        1. 0
          29 November 2022 18: 34
          There are methods of warfare that have long been tried and tested over the years, incl. air cover for individual ships and formations, the last vivid example of the absence of this is the loss of the British fleet during the Falklands War.
          In our particular case, we mean not so much the interception of attacking targets as their timely detection and transmission of target designations. And here it is quite possible to do without the Hawkeye.
          1. -1
            29 November 2022 23: 15
            I wonder how? How exactly to provide air cover without an AWACS aircraft, to be on duty around the clock with an AWACS helicopter? Well, how many helicopters do you need to use? And if not around the clock (we know that they will shoot at 6:00 tomorrow), then why is this even necessary? And if it is not necessary to intercept, but only to detect, then how could Moscow intercept anti-ship missiles if all of its air defense (judging by open data) cannot work with low-flying targets?
            1. -1
              30 November 2022 04: 49
              How exactly to provide air cover without an AWACS aircraft, to be on duty around the clock with an AWACS helicopter?

              The American AUGs of the Second World War did not have AWACS aircraft, and even more so helicopters for this purpose, nevertheless they operated successfully.
              how could Moscow intercept anti-ship missiles if all of its air defense (judging by open data) cannot work with low-flying targets?

              Moreover, if so, then the question is again to the Kremlin "strategists" - why the hell did they launch a ship that is not capable of defending itself on a solo voyage?
              "Wherever you throw - everywhere a wedge!"
              Remember the shoemaker and pies?
              1. 0
                1 December 2022 16: 52
                Quote: Sea Cat
                American AUGs of the Second World War did not have AWACS aircraft.

                Well, the anti-ship missiles did not threaten the American aircraft carriers, right? Only torpedoes and bombs.
                1. -1
                  1 December 2022 17: 17
                  Only torpedoes and bombs.

                  You are absolutely right. But there were no means of detection and protection similar to the current ones.
                  Fifty-fifty in my opinion. smile
          2. +6
            29 November 2022 23: 27
            Um ... mmm ... The authors seem to have read somewhere about quantum entanglement but did not fully understand what it is all about and they already have detection technologies based on this in China, and even! hit an American submarine! That is, they banged on it with quanta and hit 11 people! How! Read and freaked out. Write to me about "quantum entanglement" and sensors based on it at the bottom of the sea and in space to detect submarines and aim weapons at them. Very interesting, I will continue to freak out ... I like to freak out from quantum entanglement .... although what am I talking about? Directly "quantum confused" just after the article ....
    4. +1
      5 December 2022 01: 11
      Quote: Mitroha
      Do the authors know how to look into the future?

      "...today, tomorrow, not everyone can watch...." (from Vitalka Klitschko) ... wink
  2. +7
    29 November 2022 06: 43
    And what does the drawing of the Soviet nuclear submarine pr.941 "Shark" given in the article have to do with the Chinese? what
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  3. +6
    29 November 2022 10: 04
    When navigating, modern submarines are guided by satellite data, which allows the enemy to jam these satellites.

    Elderberry in the garden, and uncle in Kyiv. No connection between the two parts of the sentence.
    Authors, how did submarines move until satellite navigation was launched?
    Quantum technology, on the other hand, allows a submarine to navigate independently, without being tied to a satellite.

    I got the impression from the article that the authors have no idea what kind of technology this is.
    1. +5
      29 November 2022 11: 27
      100% incomprehensible technology, but it sounds mysterious. Everyone knows that a quantum computer is good, so "quantum technology" is also something good.
    2. 0
      1 December 2022 16: 59
      And I did not pay attention to the phrase "jamming these satellites." I wonder how exactly the enemy jams these satellites? Probably this is some elementary task, you just need to press the "Mute satellite" button.
  4. +6
    29 November 2022 10: 36
    Interesting article though. There are no facts, but "the flight of fancy is unlimited." But in the end they "crap" once again Russia and its NWO. This is obviously the quintessence of the article. Hidden agents of the CIA are probably working in your editorial office, gentlemen.
  5. +2
    29 November 2022 16: 00
    At every step and corner I read and hear about "grandfather's methods". I have never been able to "talk" the author of the repost of this phrase to "as it should be." Obviously walking combat drones with lasers will just paint over the interactive map in a friendly color with the support of AI gliders. And infantry control over the territory is not needed because ... see above. As an "argument" only the BVP 2003. Without mentioning that it had gutted Iraq since 1991, they were crushed by sanctions, and each of the phases of the operation was assembled in front of the astonished public for months in greenhouse conditions. Not a word about "results". The concept of "defeating the entire enemy and destroying his potential" has expanded to the point of impossibility. Look already in the "information space" you can be defeated. Isn't it the "old-fashioned method" to help the enemy die for his homeland with maximum efficiency with minimal losses, and preferably at his expense? But this is all just to help Vanya the infantryman going to the next "Reichstag"?
  6. 0
    29 November 2022 16: 43
    On the Internet there are lectures by Lai from Dmitry Pavlov. They talk about relic photons and the creation of 4-dimensional navigation. So let's see.
  7. +1
    29 November 2022 17: 00
    It seems that the article was written by a 16 year old red alert player.
    Torpedoes taking off on an air cushion. Nuu ok.
    Quantum communication, quantum echolocation, and then I heard the word quantum 20 times.

    Quantum communication takes place under line-of-sight conditions, or through a physical waveguide, a repeater such as a satellite, which must receive a laser beam and send it to another subscriber in line of sight.
    The essence of quantum communication is that a key is transmitted, (photon) and you know that the key will not be intercepted, so you know what is happening with another photo at a given time.
    These are not some magical computers that will exchange information, while the submarine will not emit anything. That doesn't happen.

    It was interesting to read.
    But I would like to see links to sources of information. And then some kind of science fiction.
    Thank you.
  8. +2
    29 November 2022 17: 03
    [quote = gsev] [quote = Andrey from Chelyabinsk] Shells with radio fuses were used in air defense, no one fired them at the infantry, and even about mowing someone down with divisions is generally complete nonsense. [/ Quote]
    Read Belton Cooper's memoir, Death Traps. This is the same informative book about that war as A. Beck's Volokolamsk Highway. In the United States, it was believed that Hitler's appearance at the end of 1944 of mass jet aircraft and shells with radio fuses made the victory over Germany problematic. [quote] Given the fact that losses from aviation in the Second World War reached 6,6% only in certain operations [/ quote ] In Stalingrad alone, about 200 Russians perished in a day of bombing. If we add only those killed in Voronezh, Odessa, Leningrad, Sevastopol, Kursk, then there will probably be 000 million dead. quote] German aviation on the Eastern Front was a strong enemy until the very end. The British believed that on an equal footing their piston aircraft could fight German jets in a ratio of about 1:10. Then some tactical schemes made it possible to catch a jet fighter. [/ Quote]
    Where did you pick up this American nonsense?! All your data on losses no longer agree with reality, and if you continue like this, then the USSR should have just died in the middle of the war. And the assessments of the Anglo-Saxons in the military field just do sin either with bias, or rely only on their own, very often unsuccessful experience in combat operations. What you cited as some kind of serious analytical research, in fact, is more drawn to fiction by people who are biased towards the issues under study
    1. -1
      29 November 2022 20: 43
      Quote: MsG363
      And the assessments of the Anglo-Saxons in the military field just do sin either with bias, or rely only on their own, very often unsuccessful experience in combat operations.

      How do you explain the rapid encirclement of the Germans in the Ruhr pocket and their subsequent rapid and complete destruction?
  9. +2
    29 November 2022 18: 07
    In late 2021 and early 2022, China's arsenal of hydroacoustics, designed to detect enemy submarines, was replenished with a quantum system, which can also be used to improve missile guidance and increase strike accuracy.

    It is strange why such an ignorant opus should be created by just the two of them? Or one can read and the other can write?
    As far as quantum technologies are concerned, so far no quantum technology has gone beyond laboratory samples.

    The figure shows possible options for using quantum technologies.
    1. +1
      29 November 2022 19: 03
      The author writes about Chinese boats, and for some reason he cited a drawing of an APL 941 project from the last century.
      1. +3
        29 November 2022 19: 36
        The author writes about Chinese boats, and for some reason he cited a drawing of an APL 941 project from the last century.

        The picture is beautiful.
    2. -1
      29 November 2022 20: 50
      Quote from Baker
      As far as quantum technologies are concerned, so far no quantum technology has gone beyond laboratory samples.

      Hefei, Feb. 9 (Xinhua) -- Chinese researchers have unveiled a new operating system for quantum computers, which, according to the results of testing, can improve the performance of current quantum computers several times. The new operating system will be applied on a quantum computing cloud platform and available for users around the world, said Origin Quantum." That is, the Chinese are already ready to sell equipment and technologies for quantum computing. Surely they also have classified information, and not all quantum computers and quantum communications are translated into Russian by the Chinese.
      1. +1
        29 November 2022 22: 15
        can increase the efficiency of current quantum computers by several times

        And how many "currently existing quantum computers" can you list?
        1. 0
          29 November 2022 22: 31
          Quote from Baker
          And how many "currently existing quantum computers" can you list?

          I don't have access to modern encryption machines. But in popular science books on the history of ciphers, it was already openly written about 15 years ago that such machines were already probably working at that time. http://russian.people.com.cn/n3/2021/1027/c31517-9911905.html Here is information about the Chinese Jiuzhan-2 quantum computer. Probably there is also number 1, probably there are also secret ones, 3,4,5.
          1. +1
            29 November 2022 22: 54
            What about encryption machines? Post-quantum cryptography is still pure theory. The Chinese Jiuzhans, two of them, are not a full-fledged computer, but a calculator, a demonstration model showing that China has also achieved a quantum advantage (not an advantage in development, but a "quantum advantage"). As for the "secret", today it is unscience fiction.
  10. -2
    3 December 2022 11: 18
    In our realities, all that remains for us is to wage war in the old-fashioned way. Education, science, medicine: no matter where you poke, a complete failure. Well, a general flight from the country of more or less intelligent guys. Something like a bleak picture emerges.
  11. -1
    8 December 2022 23: 30
    I absolutely agree with the author!
    The more intelligent the weapons, the higher the probability of winning the confrontation/conflict.
    Man will be an exception.
  12. 0
    9 December 2022 01: 59
    The Chinese know how to work miracles... They are able to surprise the whole world!
  13. 0
    6 January 2023 16: 34
    Good reader trolling. What if some military or scientist "gets excited" and let it slip - like they say we had such systems ten years ago already. The war has begun - and where is that "Peresvet" and where is the "Badass"?
  14. +1
    22 February 2023 19: 55
    China has long been involved in cyber attacks. With the push of a button, these guys can cut off the enemy's power and/or crash the stock markets. They don't even need missiles.

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