Kim Jong-un announced his intention to create the "most powerful" strategic nuclear forces in the world

North Korea intends to create the "most powerful" strategic nuclear force in the world to protect the sovereignty of the North Korean people and state. This was stated by the head of the DPRK Kim Jong-un.

The North Korean leader and his daughter held a meeting with the military, scientists and workers of enterprises that contributed to the creation of a new Hwaseong-17 intercontinental ballistic missile. According to the KCNA, a photo session was also held, before which Kim Jong-un made a speech on the creation of strategic nuclear forces. According to him, the DPRK will strive to build the most powerful and "unprecedented" strategic nuclear forces.

Our tireless work of building nuclear armed forces, aimed at the eternal reliable defense of the dignity and sovereignty of the state and people, is the greatest and most important revolutionary cause, and its ultimate goal is to possess the most powerful strategic power in the world, unprecedented absolute power

- TsTK quotes Eun's words.

It is noted that recently North Korean scientists have made a quantum leap in the creation of new ICBMs with nuclear warheads.

Meanwhile, according to experts, the next country to become the owner of a nuclear weaponsmay become South Korea. Robert Kelly, a columnist for the American edition of 19FortyFive, believes that it is Seoul that is closest to creating its own nuclear bomb in response to the development in the DPRK of new ICBMs capable of reaching anywhere in the United States. According to Kelly, South Korea can no longer rely on the United States as a guarantor of its sovereignty, so it will create its own tools of containment.

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[svp67]

Kim Jong-un announced his intention to create the "most powerful" strategic nuclear forces in the world

The size of his ambition is bigger than the size of his puffy cheeks

[yuriy55]

Quote: svp67

The size of his ambition is bigger than the size of his puffy cheeks

And I believe him. If not the most powerful, then it may be in the top three. There is an experience of CREATION in the world, when a single country of microscopic dimensions CAN, WHEN IT WANTS.
And there is the experience of sliding into the dustbin of "great empires".
True, it is always harder to create than to plunder ...

[svp67]

Quote: yuriy55

And I believe him.

It's a private matter for everyone

Quote: yuriy55

If not the most powerful, then the top three may be

And here, I'm sorry, I do not believe it. It is too EXPENSIVE pleasure to have and maintain nuclear weapons. Troika is clearly Russia, the US and China. And the DPRK, at best, is at the end of the ten. And then for this, the citizens of the DPRK will lose even more weight ...

[yuriy55]

Quote: svp67

It's a private matter for everyone

That's it!

Quote: svp67

It is too EXPENSIVE pleasure to have and maintain nuclear weapons.

And therefore, some keep the army and try to create the most powerful nuclear weapon in the world (maybe it will not be as expensive as the Russian one - it would not be a pity to use it), while others outdid the USSR’s expenses for maintaining the government and officials.

[svp67]

Quote: yuriy55

(maybe it will not be as expensive as the Russian one - it was not a pity to use it),

By the way, the production and manufacture of nuclear weapons in Russia is the CHEAPEST in the world, all the rest are far behind in the production technologies of the same weapons-grade plutonium. Well, even this cheapness is RELATIVE. It's millions of dollars. Not rubles. Something like this.

Quote: yuriy55

And so some keep the army and try to create the most powerful nuclear weapon in the world.

Look here. China, a very rich state, is VERY, we still have to dream about their capabilities, and even then, they cannot compete with the States in terms of strategic nuclear forces. Therefore, they were forced to "flow around" after the arrivals of Pilose to Taiwan. The Chinese are well aware that they would have lost with a devastating score if they had begun to measure nuclear strikes with the United States. ABM = zero, strategic delivery vehicles - a couple of hundred. And this is China. Now imagine the possibilities of the DPRK ... Now you understand that they will not succeed. and not for that they are going to spend their strength and resources. Now there will be another war, another.

[yuriy55]

Quote: svp67

Look here. China is a very rich country

I don't look at states in terms of wealth.
China is a poor (compared to Russia) state. There is not enough arable land, forest land, or natural resources. Moreover, there is even a lack of fresh water!!!
However, along with this, it can be considered as one of the most developed countries on the planet!!! A state that, with its laws and the labor of its citizens, has created a second (in some cases and parameters - the first) economy.
I am 146% sure (XNUMX!!!) that to watch how the Russian government is outrageous over its people and its own country, turning the fertile land into a trash heap (!!!), how the snickering elite takes waste to the regions, and draws out of them the last to parades, forums, exhibitions, fireworks, all sorts of crap - will not be and will draw conclusions with its entire one and a half billion population. Especially after the "hundred-year war" with Ukraine...
The Chinese are "flowing around" only because they are a patient people, and China does not have enough experience in military operations. little practical. But this is a livelihood. in some countries there was experience, but it came out along with a change in formation ...
*****
You can imagine the possibilities of the DPRK. But why? With their dozen missiles, they keep Japan at bay, which weekly waves katanas at Russia over the Kuriles.
they said once, and they didn’t see more American ships with carrier-based aircraft wishing to demonstrate their “demonstration” ...
*****
I don’t want to compare Russia, swollen with fat and idleness, with the thin inhabitants of countries that have been isolated for decades, precisely because of the drooling of the “world powers” ​​puffing out their cheeks and chewing snot, to whom, with a wound, the country of freeloaders zigues along the borders and does not give, along with the rest of the Nazi to build some kind of “happy future” for a limited group of people in a once successful socialist state that launches galoshes around the Earth, on the Moon, Venus and Mars ...

[svp67]

Quote: yuriy55

I don't look at states in terms of wealth.

But in vain. Take a look at the photo for the article. People in the DPRK live hard, they live from hand to mouth, and now they still need to tighten their belts?

Quote: yuriy55

The Chinese are "flowing around" only because they are a patient people, and China does not have enough experience in military operations. little practical.

Only a person with little knowledge of history can speak like that. The fact that North Korea now exists on the map is 1000% the merit of China, it was her "volunteers" who bought this victory with their lives

Quote: yuriy55

I don’t want to compare Russia, swollen with fat and idleness, with the thin inhabitants of countries that have been isolated for decades, precisely because of the drooling of the “world powers” ​​puffing out their cheeks and chewing snot, to whom, with a wound, the country of freeloaders zigues along the borders and does not give, along with the rest of the Nazi to build some kind of “happy future” for a limited group of people in a once successful socialist state that launches galoshes around the Earth, on the Moon, Venus and Mars ...

Is that how you rate yourself?

[yuriy55]

Quote: svp67

Is that how you rate yourself?

Of course! 21 years as a combat officer, 3 years as a stoker, electrician and 20 years old as an overhead line installer ... I'm fucking fat in retirement ... I just don't know where to swindle the millions that I've racked up all the time ...

Quote: svp67

Only a person with little knowledge of history can speak like that.

I confess, I know little about China ... But I have the opportunity to see and compare.
I see you know history well, you were even a direct participant in it, I guess?!

Quote: svp67

The fact that the DPRK now exists on the map is 1000% merit of China, it was her "volunteers" who bought this victory with their lives

Can you tell me to whom China (not the one that is thousands of years old, but modern) in the form of the PRC owes its education?! Oh, yes ... Here, after all:

By 1949, the CCP armed forces had won the Chinese Civil War, and some scholars believe that the Kuomintang could defend its power on its own - without the help of the United States, while "The Communist Party of China did not have its own opportunities for an armed seizure of power and relied on the Soviet Union"

I'm just curious if the Kuomintang would have supported North Korea in 1950 if the USSR hadn't supported the CCP in 1949?!
But history is not my forte! I'm more into mathematics and other literature and Russian ...

[bayard]

Quote: svp67

But in vain. Take a look at the photo for the article. People in the DPRK live hard, they live from hand to mouth, and now they still need to tighten their belts?

I don’t think that we will have to drag it out much, because we are talking about the mass production of missiles that have completed / final tests. The DPRK has been engaged in missiles for a long time, and the cost of a heavy ICBM (namely, we see it in tests) costs about the same as one or two heavy 4++ generation fighters.
ICBM is one of the most economical types of weapons. True, there are still expenses for infrastructure and maintenance in the BG, but they have an excess of cheap labor there - it’s just that people will be busy.
Well, about the "most powerful" strategic nuclear forces, this is of course hyperbole, they will build several dozen heavy ICBMs and calm down.
By the way, both with the economy and with the standard of living, they have become better in recent years. Yes, and the Korean people will cheer up from such accomplishments.
And imagine such a situation that something is happening in the USA, their grip is weakening ... and Korea is united and even under the flag of a nuclear DPRK.
Without war - peacefully.
Can you imagine WHAT state will arise?
But the Koreans (both northern and southern) in private conversations have long been saying that if it were not for the United States, they would have resolved all their contradictions long ago.
Take for example, and stretch a gas pipeline through North Korea to South Korea. For a long time they stuttered about it, but the United States does not order.
What if there is a revolution in the USA?
Or a civil war?
As a consequence of the collapse of the financial system or the political crisis of the elites and white states?

The standard of living in S. Korea is low not because of the inability to work (this is what they just know how to do) or poor organization, but because of the total blockade from the United States through the UN. The same with Cuba.
Here, the Chinese are no more talented and hardworking than the Koreans of the north, but without sanctions and in the most favored nation regime and the provision of markets, look what they have achieved. But the state ideology is about the same.
or their compatriots in the south.
But the Koreans of the North created nuclear weapons and the most diverse means of delivering them. What asserted their right to sovereignty. Let them trade normally and in 10 years you will not recognize the country. All with the same Chu-Che ideology.
Here, for example, Russia will take, and restore all trade relations with S. Korea. Such an ally will not interfere with us at all now, just like the S. Korean guest workers at our construction sites in the Far East. And their rare earth metals will not be superfluous to us. And it will be easier for their southern brothers to stretch a gas pipe. And there is a market for S. Korean goods in Russia ... and in S. Korea - for our goods.
And then the whole world will play with completely different colors.
After all, it was not for nothing that a monument to Fidel was erected in Moscow. Good, by the way, a monument.

[svp67]

Quote: bayard

I don’t think that I will have to drag it out much, because we are talking about the mass production of missiles that have completed / final tests

Then the question is, where will they get uranium for all these missiles? Where will it be enriched? To produce plutonium, in the required volumes, to create "the most powerful nuclear missile forces"? To create and produce rockets for this is not even half the battle, but a quarter of the battle ...

[bayard]

They are working on it.
My comment is too short according to the site administration.

[svp67]

Quote: bayard

They are working on it.

Yeah ... they are digging to the center of the Earth, maybe they will find uranium deposits there

[bayard]

Apparently they have already found it, since such plans have been announced. Not by Korea alone and its natural reserves, the nuclear industry of the DPRK is alive. They have worked out for several dozen nuclear warheads, they will work out more. If necessary, they will take increased social obligations and organize social competition.

[svp67]

Quote: bayard

They have worked out for several dozen nuclear warheads, they will work out more.

Undoubtedly ... for a few more tens, even a hundred, they will work out. But in order to become the "most powerful" they need a couple of thousand

[bayard]

Quote: svp67

But in order to become "the most powerful"

Well, this is hyperbole on courage from a series of high-profile achievements and labor victories. But they will definitely put several dozen heavy ICBMs on duty. And to them and the BRSD, OTRK, BRK. The Koreans of the north have clearly gone with the missiles.

[svp67]

Quote: bayard

The Koreans of the north have clearly gone with the missiles.

Special thanks to YuzhMash

[bayard]

The Chinese and Koreans have relied on Yuzhmash since the early to mid-90s. What to do - the flagship of the Soviet rocket science.

[VladMirU]

Well said. From the heart. Five +++++ from me.

[isv000]

Quote: svp67

Troika is clearly Russia, the US and China. And the DPRK, at best, is at the end of the ten. And then for this, the citizens of the DPRK will lose even more weight ...

You can puff as you like about this but! - you can’t throw words out of the song - South Korea keeps quiet in a rag, and the hegemon tries once again not to look in that direction, away from sin ...

[svp67]

Quote: isv000

You can puff as you like about this but! - you can’t throw words out of the song - South Korea keeps quiet in a rag, and the hegemon tries once again not to look in that direction, away from sin ...

Only because China is behind the back of the DPRK, and that says it all

[isv000]

Quote: svp67

Only because China is behind the back of the DPRK, and that says it all

You can say whatever you want, but a fact is a fact, and that says it all - the DPRK said "just try to poke your head!" and the West jumped aside!

[Plate]

Quote: isv000

Yu Korea keeps quiet in a rag

I am sure that in the event of a one-on-one conflict (because if not one-on-one, then the PLA and the US Armed Forces will have to be compared), the southerners will smash the northerners. And if so, why should they squeal?

[isv000]

Quote: Plate

I am sure that in the event of a one-on-one conflict ... the southerners will smash the northerners. And if so, why should they squeal?

The demarcation line has 14000 guns capable of smashing the 25-million Seoul agglomeration to dust. Air defense shells are not taken. I think that in a one-on-one war, the harsh northerners will re-educate the southerners pampered by the benefits of the West.

[Plate]

I suspect these guns won't fire enough times to blow up the Seoul metropolitan area. Southerners are technologically ahead of their northern counterparts noticeably.

[isv000]

Quote: Plate

I suspect these guns won't fire enough times to blow up the Seoul metropolitan area. Southerners are technologically ahead of their northern counterparts noticeably.

A saucer, do you have any idea, in kind, what one artillery shot at a densely populated building is?!!! Look at what the Nazis are doing with Donetsk ... And multiply one artillery shot by a salvo of 14 guns ...

[Plate]

For more than 8 years, the Nazis have been shelling Donetsk, but it is still intact, although it is clearly smaller than Seoul. I am sure that more than 14 shots were fired at him. Well, I do not believe that with an abundance of military targets, the KPA will hit civilians.

[gsev]

Quote: svp67

Troika is clearly Russia, the US and China.

The country of Israel, with a population smaller than the DPRK, many times has powerful nuclear forces and a high-quality aircraft industry. Sweden considered the possibility of developing nuclear weapons. Sweden produces supersonic jet fighters.

[svp67]

Quote: gsev

The country of Israel, with a population smaller than the DPRK, many times has powerful nuclear forces and a high-quality aircraft industry

Aviation industry YES, only the USA is destroying it .. But in terms of nuclear weapons, the DPRK, most likely they will outrun them, especially in terms of carriers

[yuriy55]

Quote: gsev

The country of Israel, with a population smaller than the DPRK, many times has powerful nuclear forces and a high-quality aircraft industry.

These are the countries I was thinking about when I typed:

Quote: yuriy55

There is an experience of CREATION in the world, when a single country of microscopic dimensions CAN WHEN YOU WANT.

When I got acquainted with the Israeli technology of irrigation and cultivation of agricultural products, I was simply delighted. And here are millions of hectares of land, cubic kilometers of water, millions of MW / h of electricity, millions of tons of oil, billions of cubic meters of gas, and tasteless grass is grown in greenhouses ... Royal dates from Israel compared to Azerbaijani ones - watermelon against turnips ...

[gsev]

Quote: yuriy55

Royal dates from Israel in comparison with Azerbaijani ones - watermelon against turnips...

The greenhouse rests on the agrarian. What is his qualification, such will be the product. Surely in Israel, key specialists have such a salary that they are stimulated to have the highest qualifications. And in Russia, in a large greenhouse farm, a KiPovets specialist, at the suggestion of Azerbaijan, goes into a fictitious binge and flies to Azerbaijan for a sabbath, knowing that his bosses from Israel are greedy to find him a replacement for a specialist.

[yuriy55]

Quote: gsev

The greenhouse is supported by the agronomist.

And the state - on the president, and not on the press secretaries ...

[gsev]

Quote: yuriy55

And the state - on the president, and not on the press secretaries ...

Even Stalin loudly declared to his elite that without the common people, his elite was worth little. In Afghanistan, the leadership has always been not up to par, but simple militias demolished the empires that invaded their country at the peak of the power of these empires.

[Aviator_]

It is too EXPENSIVE pleasure to have and maintain nuclear weapons.

It is even more expensive to tolerate oligarchs on your territory.

[gsev]

Quote: Aviator_

It is even more expensive to tolerate oligarchs on your territory.

In Russia, unlike Turkey, wages are high in trade and office work. Even employees of clearing companies can often earn more than constructors if they manage to take a job in several companies. There is no such care for them and they can move around the city, combining work in different places. With the tightening of control, people simply flee abroad with their families. After my service, a friend of mine now spends most of her time in Turkey, where it is easier for her to find a job, and she comes to Russia only in the cold winter months for a bit of work. Residents of Russia are valued for their versatility. For example, she combined the duties of a personal driver, translator, office manager, and diving equipment specialist in Turkey.

[Aviator_]

It's not about earnings. Earnings under Joseph the Terrible were different for everyone. So during the Second World War, the collective farmer-beekeeper Ferapont Golovaty purchased a plane for the front at his own expense, and the artists of the Bolshoi Theater were dropped to help the front, since none of them could master the combat vehicle alone. And now the people are dumped on the NWO, and Deripaska, and other kings of business, for some reason, have not been seen in anything like that.

[solar]

Ferapont Golovaty bought a plane for the front at his own expense, and the artists of the Bolshoi Theater were sent to help the front, since none of them could master the combat vehicle alone

these are the features of a planned economy and taxation of that card period of time. Prices were state and commercial. A kilo of honey on the market cost as much as two monthly salaries of a skilled worker. If you were given a big plan for honey, you had to hand it over at fixed state prices, read, for a penny. And if it’s small, then you sold excess honey at market prices and formally received a large profit and could buy an aircraft at the state price.

[Aviator_]

The question is not how it was then, but how it is now - the rich Pinocchio pay nothing at all except for 13% tax.

[gsev]

Quote: Aviator_

and the artists of the Bolshoi Theater were thrown to the aid of the front, since none of them alone could master the combat vehicle.

The messing artist of the original genre also purchased 2 aircraft alone. Ballerinas of the Bolshoi Theater, like most other actresses of all theaters, are escorts for high-ranking officials. So it was under the tsar, and under Stalin, and now. There is a point of view that the authorities in Russia pay low salaries to doctors on purpose in order to have a reserve of smart, beautiful and impoverished prostitutes who are able to diagnose and treat venereal diseases if they become infected. Therefore, hundreds of artists are paid astronomical fees, and all the rest live in rented apartments and look for dear daddies.

[Victor_B]

Quote: yuriy55

True, it is always harder to create than to plunder ...

In this regard, Eun is at least easier.
But it's not enough just to accumulate 300+ YaBZ.
A triad is necessary for the stability of strategic nuclear forces.
Land-based missiles launched from North Korean territory can be shot down relatively easily on takeoff. (Well, they have a small territory ...)
There is no submarine for today.
Even China's neighbor does not have strategic aviation.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Victor_B

Even China's neighbor does not have strategic aviation.

And in Russia everything is a bundle? The only Tu-160 m2 created from scratch? Shaggy years project PAK-DA? And in the current conflict, the Nazis from strategists, how do they brush off flies?
Well, they don't have land! There is not!!! But the population growth in thirty years is 30% ...

[svp67]

Quote: Victor_B

Even China's neighbor does not have strategic aviation.

I agree with everything except this. Yet they managed to create its likeness. Their "Tu-16" is capable of solving limited strategic tasks

[Oleg Ogorod]

For each anti-missile there is its own anti-missile. Well, as in the good old folk wisdom, that for every cunning ass there is a threaded bolt.
Will the anti-missiles launch?
And what prevents Kim from simultaneously launching a dozen or two false missiles without nuclear warheads, with a flight radius of no more than 100 km? Simplified and cheap. Let the Americans try to intercept them at the initial stage.
Guessed not guessed.
Missiles towards Kim, Xi may regard as a threat towards Xi's empire. And if there is a threat, you need to act in response. By pressing the red button. Yes, and Emperor Pu, too, can take this as a threat to his empire. And press the red button.
Therefore, Kim is safe as hell in his bosom.
However, the politician...

[gsev]

Quote: Victor_B

There is no submarine for today.

Perhaps just now the DPRK will develop precisely the underwater component of its forces. Apparently these will be drones with a couple of three nuclear missiles. North Korea has not pledged to give up cobalt nuclear weapons. A pair of her missiles reaching the United States is capable of making a rustle there.

[smart ass]

Russia can establish excellent partnerships with Kim, supplying oil, gas, fertilizers, grain, and a little bit of nuclear technology. If we are already recorded as terrorists, we will be friends with Kim and Afghanistan

[isv000]

Quote: Clever man

If we are already recorded as terrorists, we will be friends with Kim and Afghanistan

We have a good saying: seven troubles - one answer! So she needs to follow, and partners simply do not notice. They walk around the bazaar - they themselves will crawl ...

[Plate]

The Kims already have nuclear technology, there is no need to add more. Or only after nuclear disarmament.

[gsev]

Quote: Clever man

If we are already recorded as terrorists, we will be friends with Kim and Afghanistan

We can make friends with the DPRK, but it seems that we are already late with Afghanistan. The Americans began to deliver humanitarian aid to Afghanistan in such quantities that it even falls into people who fired at the Taliban. Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs and customs even drones for Strelkov and Wagner professionally slow down at customs, the sale of metal, trucks, tractors, gem-cutting machines by independent businessmen to Afghanistan will not be allowed. Afghanistan, in contrast to the DPRK, has already voted for humanitarian aid to confiscate the $300 billion donated to the West by Nabiullina. The United States will begin to supply oil to the DPRK and buy shoes and clothes from this country. The DPRK will make peace with the United States.

[dauria]

when a single country of microscopic size CAN, WHEN WANTS.

Drop it. China needs North Korea. That's why it hasn't been eaten yet. She is in a strategic position. If it weren't for North Korea, the Americans will get a land corridor to northern China from the Korean Peninsula.
So China is the guardian angel of all Kims, from the first to today. Do not forget, in the war of the 53rd, China put more than 120 thousand of its soldiers killed for this piece of "socialism". And for beautiful eyes will not give anyone.

[gsev]

Quote: dauria

So China is the guardian angel of all Kims, from the first to today.

The bulk of the ground forces of the DPRK are now deployed against the PRC, and not the South Caucasus. The North Koreans are happy to cooperate with any country that does not encroach on their sovereignty. It is possible that the nuclear weapons of the South Caucasus are primarily being developed against the United States.

[smart fellow]

China needs North Korea. That's why it hasn't been eaten yet.

In 1994, Clinton and his Secretary of Defense William Perry considered going to war against North Korea. According to Pentagon calculations, for 3 months of the war, the total losses for the United States and South Korea will amount to almost 1 million soldiers, including up to 100 thousand killed Americans. The total cost of the war with North Korea for the US budget will be $100 billion, and the amount of economic damage to South Korea will be more than $1 trillion.

[Godzila]

Quote: yuriy55

And I believe him. If not the most powerful, then it may be in the top three.

I believe too The country is in isolation and they live quietly for themselves .. And they are all being hammered and hammered And in spite of everyone else they will fly into space soon and I won't be surprised!

Quote: yuriy55

There is an experience of CREATION in the world, when a single country of microscopic dimensions CAN, WHEN IT WANTS.

Well said ! Eun said, don’t touch us and we won’t touch you, even attempts to make friends with the South Caucasus were made, but the United States was against it and even threatened to drive two AUG fleets to the coast ..
Now in Russia, something similar is happening when we wanted to live and develop independently of world moneylenders .. I hope we can stand it!

[N3onMiami]

And in spite of everyone, they will fly into space soon and I won’t be surprised!

If this happens (which is unlikely), then it will be at the level of Gagarin or Shepard flight, that is, at the level of the early 60s.
60 years late.

[svp67]

Quote from N3onMiami

If this happens (which is unlikely), then it will be at the level of Gagarin or Shepard flight, that is, at the level of the early 60s.
60 years late.

But why? What China allows them to do, they will do ...

[Godzila]

Quote from N3onMiami

And in spite of everyone, they will fly into space soon and I won’t be surprised!

If this happens (which is unlikely), then it will be at the level of Gagarin or Shepard flight, that is, at the level of the early 60s.
60 years late.

Even if so! The bottom line is, they are striving for this .. And this is commendable, unlike the "democratic" countries, stupid mongrels who live on credit and have no prospects, except for cannon fodder .. Is that right?

[svp67]

Quote from godzila

Well said !

This "microscopic" country "can" only as much as China allows it. If she loses this support, and that's it, she will "deflate"

[Godzila]

Quote: svp67

Quote from godzila

Well said !

This "microscopic" country "can" only as much as China allows it. If she loses this support, and that's it, she will "deflate"

Yes, let her live as she wants! Russia also helps them, and not for nothing. The DPRK has deposits of rare earth metals and it is not for nothing that the Anglo-Saxons are so interested there and want to crush THIS all
Sergey DPRK, this is already in the past .. Now the Anglo-Saxons have a problem with Russia !!!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote from godzila

Now in Russia, something similar is happening when we wanted to live and develop independently of world moneylenders .. I hope we can stand it!

Unfortunately, nothing like this happens in Russia. Everything is as it was.

[Godzila]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote from godzila

Now in Russia, something similar is happening when we wanted to live and develop independently of world moneylenders .. I hope we can stand it!

Unfortunately, nothing like this happens in Russia. Everything is as it was.

Well, why are we surrounded on all sides by the Anglo-Saxons .. And we don’t get on our knees and live for the evil of everyone!
Yes, it’s difficult, but the liberals are running, etc. And it makes me very happy!!!
Russia clears and focuses

[GAF]

Quote: yuriy55

And I believe him. If not the most powerful, then...

They have already performed a miracle with limited resources and under the most severe sanctions. The only problem is that the mountainous nature of the territory limits the possibilities of agricultural production. I don't know why, but Russia stubbornly follows UN sanctions on North Korea. The DPRK recognized the return of its territories on the Outskirts by Russia. and can provide assistance with the supply of weapons in the NWO, which we are conducting, which has turned into another war with the West. South Korea is ready to supply the 100 155mm caliber shells requested by the United States on the condition (for fools) that they do not fall on the outskirts of the Ukronats. Poland is ready to adopt their armored vehicles ...
North Korea, having been in the conditions of a mobilization economy for more than half a century, has a decent arsenal. Little is required of us: to send forest sanctions from the UN - an office that demonstrates "friendliness" towards Russia, to help the Koreans with food and allow them to work for us ... The people are executive and disciplined in their mentality. What will happen if Korea becomes united.....?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: yuriy55

There is an experience of CREATION in the world, when a single country of microscopic dimensions CAN, WHEN IT WANTS.

and who is it?

[Egoza]

Quote: svp67

The size of his ambition is bigger than the size of his puffy cheeks

Ambition ambitions, but I wish that he succeeded. And you need to separate what he says to inspire the soldiers from reality.

[svp67]

Quote: Egoza

Oh I wish he got everything

But not me. I wish that prudence would prevail in him. Thousands of nuclear weapons are not required for the defense of the DPRK, a hundred is enough. And they are quite capable of producing and maintaining such a quantity, but thousands ... they will not pull it, purely economically. And so the inhabitants of the DPRK differ from their compatriots from the Republic of Kazakhstan in increased thinness, and in general how shadows will walk

[yuriy55]

Quote: svp67

And so the inhabitants of the DPRK differ from their compatriots from the Republic of Kazakhstan in increased thinness, and in general how shadows will walk

It's okay, it contributes to the self-reproduction of the nation:

In 2022, the population of North Korea will increase by 137 people and at the end of the year will be 254 people.

[svp67]

Quote: yuriy55

It's okay, it contributes to the self-reproduction of the nation:

And yet, I would VERY wish they lived more satisfyingly. In the end, you can buy shells for 122-mm and 152-mm calibers from them, yes, even if they don’t have enough metal and explosives, you can supply metal to them, our metallurgy is now just looking for markets, but we’d better fill our own explosives ))) , sorry, we trust him more ...

[for]

Quote: Egoza

for him to succeed.

Just don't regret it.

[iouris]

Quote: svp67

The size of his ambition is bigger than the size of his puffy cheeks

We are not going to discuss the size of someone's cheeks here.
This is politics. Politically, Kim Jong-un is a powerful figure; there is no reason to argue that the policy pursued by the DPRK is erroneous. Maybe I don’t know something, but the DPRK is successfully resisting almost all of humanity, which, in unison, led by the United States, is subjecting the country to the most severe sanctions.

[Victor_B]

and its ultimate goal is to have the most powerful strategic power in the world, an absolute power never seen before.

No matter how the navel is untied ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Victor_B

No matter how the navel is untied ...

Will not untie, at Sev. Korea's powerful industry. Sanctions, however, greatly hinder them.

[svp67]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Will not untie, at Sev. Korea's powerful industry.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT AMOUNT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: svp67

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT AMOUNT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?

I have. At Sev. Korea simply has no other choice. And then it's not so much about the amounts, but about what part of the industrial potential can be used to fulfill this task. And how painful it will be for the economy as a whole.

[svp67]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

At Sev. Korea simply has no other choice

There is. A couple of hundred strategic and operational-tactical charges are enough, plus a few hundred tactical ones. The fact is that the landscape of Korea is not very beneficial for the use of nuclear weapons, but chemical weapons would be more useful there.
But I'm not talking about that. Now, URGENTLY, they need to develop the direction of microelectronics, electronic warfare and UAVs, and not nuclear weapons. Moreover, they have backlogs

Kim Jong-un and smartphone Arirang, North Korean production

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: svp67

Now, URGENTLY, they need to develop the direction of microelectronics, electronic warfare and UAVs, and not nuclear weapons.

That's just in order to calmly develop the direction of microelectronics, electronic warfare and UAVs, they first need to develop their nuclear potential sufficiently so that unacceptable damage is guaranteed to the United States.

[svp67]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

so that the United States would be guaranteed unacceptable damage.

They will not be able to do it themselves in the next couple of decades, and after that they will not be able to. The US will take them down

Quote: aleksejkabanets

That's just in order to calmly develop

They are covered by the power of China, which has already stated this more than once. The United States will not get involved with China now, they are not ready

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: svp67

They will not be able to do it themselves in the next couple of decades, and after that they will not be able to.

You do not recall when the first Sev took off. Korean rocket?

[Amateur]

Now it is clear what is meant when they say "Multipolar world".

[Normal]

It is not necessary to have the most powerful strategic forces in the world. You can have 10 ICBMs, but have eggs to use them if that.

[Fangaro]

The author's assumption that South Korea may become the next country to create its own nuclear weapons is interesting. U.S. protection can no longer be fully relied upon.
It turns out that, following Europe, which suddenly realized that the United States is not a guarantor of protection for all who are loyal to them, are they beginning to see clearly in other parts of our planet? The United States has always only defended its own interests.

[smart fellow]

South Korean dictator Park Chung Hee tried to create nuclear weapons, for which he was killed. The assassination was organized by the United States, the direct executor was the director of the South Korean CIA, who was killed at the scene of the crime. The idea of ​​allowing South Korea and Japan to have their own nuclear weapons was put forward by Trump so that they would protect themselves. if the US becomes a potential target for North Korean nuclear missiles, then the US will not stand up for its allies.

[rotmistr60]

Quote: svp67

I wish that prudence would prevail in him.

With prudence, he is just much better than that of the "civilized" West. So far, everyone is trying to get into his country, periodically pushing AUGs, insulting at a high level ... And he will undoubtedly strengthen his nuclear forces and modernize over time.

[evgen1221]

In his understanding, this is probably an analogue of our Kuzkina mother to do. And in the understanding of normal powers, this is such a quantity and power of missiles that they do not eat up the economy and are guaranteed to destroy the enemy.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: evgen1221

guaranteed to destroy the enemy.

In order to be guaranteed to destroy his main enemy, the United States, there must be a lot of missiles and there must be hypersonic weapons.

[evgen1221]

For shechek yin, a more powerful yadrenbaton is enough, one figs seriously, no one will stick his head in him, just like he does to someone. Yao, he only needs to make a radio desert in his Korea, if they turn up, so that there is certainly no use for the invasion, well, they also turn Japan and Korea there to the heap.

[smart fellow]

What would be guaranteed to destroy his main enemy the United States

So far, the task is to inflict "unacceptable damage" so that the United States abandons the idea of ​​attacking the DPRK. It is believed that the Hwaseong-17 can carry multiple warheads and reach New York. But the republic itself is not going to attack anyone, this is a means of protection.

hypersonic weapons should be

“The hypersonic gliding warhead separated from the launched missile, made a gliding jump maneuver from a point (at a distance. - RT ) 600 km (from the initial launch site. - RT ), a 240-kilometer sharp turn from the initial launch azimuth and hit a sea target at a distance 1 thousand km. The final test launch more clearly confirmed the superior maneuverability of the hypersonic glide warhead,” according to the Voice of Korea website.
https://russian.rt.com/world/article/948082-kndr-giperzvuk-raketa-pusk-ssha

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: smart fellow

Hypersonic gliding warhead ...

Didn't know about this, thanks. Happy for the Korean comrades.))))

[spn211]

China's satellite is overestimating itself

[Hadji Murat]

Militarization will not lead to anything good, and the scale of the DPRK is too small for the most powerful forces

[Going]

Unfortunately, there is no other way to maintain their sovereignty, so Eun will do everything and remind, first of all, the United States, that there is no need to interfere with them.

[Fizik13]

The Americans, apart from atomic bombs, do not modernize anything. We are creating new missiles, most likely charges. What will Kim Jong Un do then?

[Going]

It is noted that recently North Korean scientists have made a quantum leap in the creation of new ICBMs with nuclear warheads.

And who gave them the opportunity to make this leap? , why is the US silent about it or do they want to say that they do not know ? Ukraine marked the beginning of intensive development and gave (sold) technology.

[Oleg Ogorod]

Why does South Korea need atomic weapons? To apply to North Korea, which is nearby?
And what kind of land corridor to China can the Americans be talking about? They need to swim across the big ocean to their military bases.
By the way, Kim has powerful military equipment, which has already surpassed the Soviet and Russian ones in part. Mobile missile launchers are larger and more powerful than Russian ones. They also did a lot for the development of artillery. We have not developed anything in this regard for a long time. New guns for armata and the coalition could not be mastered in mass production. We use and produce guns from the middle of the last century. Cannon factories have been virtually destroyed in the last 30 years. It was considered an unnecessary relic of past centuries. But then the NWO happened ... tanks and cool modern armored vehicles quickly ran out. And the war turned into artillery duels...
Current they require shells, and with this, too, not everything is so good. Old Soviet stocks were located mainly in the west of the country, in Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus. There were many. And no one was going to fight with them, so the mass production of Soviet shells was turned off long ago. This is logical if the production of guns was almost stopped in the country.
And now, indeed, you need to buy guns and shells from Kim. He is under full sanctions, we are under full sanctions, what then is the problem of acquisition? And Kim is well, and we have help to win.

[NightmareIvanych]

I can only wish you good luck. No sarcasm.

[Moore]

Quote: Oleg Ogorod

Mobile missile launchers are larger and more powerful than Russian ones.

What is more powerful? Number of axles? Rocket? The number of BBs?
Look at the photos of these so-called. SPU.

These are just tractors transporting a rocket (which has never been in the TPK) to a geodetically tied point and placing it on the launch pad. Our 8k63 from the 60s was still able to do this. It is not enough to get the Yuzhmash documentation bought by the Chinese from 3,14 and their own clones of MZKT tractors. To create a really effective mobile DBK, you need to go a long way - through 15P699 that did not enter the series to YARS and the like.

[Oleg Ogorod]

Well, creating a tractor with 11 axles is not at all easy, which can take a rocket with a lot of weight. Some kind of Yars-M.
Kamaz tried to create a replacement for the Minsk chassis, a lot of money was spent, but there were no results. So we buy everything in Minsk.
And Kim created it. And although the missiles are not yet so perfect, they are constantly working on this, but in Russia there was a big break. After which many old experienced cadres left for another world, and the new ones are largely marking time. Yars as a complex is not much different from the old Soviet poplar. One axle on a cart. The rocket really has become multi-headed. Yes, and the iskander was created almost in Soviet times. And after a long break, it was put into mass production in 2005. But since then, it has not changed much, By the way, it was also created a long time ago.
Where is the mobile ground launcher for calibers? Where is the launcher for calibers? Why launches only from ships that are not so difficult to track and destroy? Moscow has proved it.
By the way, even under the Iskander, Kamaz could not create a cart. As well as under the bastions, and under the air defense part of the diamond-anteus. All Minsk...
Maybe from Kim and carts to buy?

[svp67]

Quote: Oleg Ogorod

And Kim created it.

Of course, from MAZ units ...

Quote: Oleg Ogorod

but in Russia there was a big break.

Well, I wouldn’t say so, new missiles, including the KR, for Iskander, Sarmat, this is of course a repetition of Voyevoda, but at a higher level, Avangard ... Do not underestimate the work of our scientists and engineers. What they create, few others are able to repeat.

[smart fellow]

Of course, from MAZ units ...

The prototype was the WS-51200 wheel formula 16X16 manufactured by the Chinese company Hubei Wanshan Special Vehicles Co. Supplied by the Chinese company CASIC in 2011.
The Koreans modified the tractor in order to increase the load.

[svp67]

Quote: smart fellow

The prototype was the WS-51200 wheel formula 16X16 manufactured by the Chinese company Hubei Wanshan Special Vehicles Co.

Yes, yes ... that's just MAZ worked very closely with the Chinese, so I'm not surprised

[smart fellow]

Of course, from MAZ units ...

There is a difference between screwdriver assembly, technology transfer, and sample-based technology creation. For example:
"In Russia, the Euro-5 standard has been valid for all cars since January 1, 2016."
"On May 12, 2022, a new Technical Regulation and a Government Decree were signed allowing the production of EURO 0 cars in Russia."
From scratch in the world, as a rule, no one creates equipment. They improve their previously developed one, and if they haven’t developed it before, they buy foreign equipment, sometimes with licensed assembly, and then create their own production. To create a tractor, the Koreans could have taken the American chassis as a model, but it is obvious that there was no way.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Moore

Our 8k63 from the 60s was still able to do this.

Our?! Whose is yours?! Ours knew how to make An-2, but yours has been pushing for thirty years, but it cannot be born ...
Stop talking about Russian nuclear weapons, which she is not going to use ...
It’s time to take courage and, in retaliation for the ban (AT LEAST!!!) of Russian athletes participating in the Paralympics and in solidarity with the Belarusians who carried the Russian flag at the Olympics, unilaterally remove all bans on trade and economic activity (and military cooperation too) with North Korea. So that everyone in the puppet UN ate fish soup !!!

[svp67]

Quote: yuriy55

unilaterally remove all bans on trade and economic activity (and military cooperation too) with the DPRK. So that everyone in the puppet UN ate fish soup !!!

I agree here. Benefits for both States

[Moore]

Quote: yuriy55

Our?! Whose is yours?! Ours knew how to make An-2, but yours has been pushing for thirty years, but it cannot be born ...

Was it very offensive for the word "our"? Or do you not know why the AN-2 has not yet been replaced by anything else?

Quote: smart fellow

The prototype was the WS-51200 wheel formula 16X16 manufactured by the Chinese company Hubei Wanshan Special Vehicles Co.

Guess from 3 attempts, where did the Chinese slam the multi-axle from? And yes, KAMAZ with its multi-eyed, though not without a cut, but slightly brought the capricious father to his senses. Yes, in the area of ​​​​a yard of rubles, father's trolling took, but the result was worth it.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Moore

Guess from 3 attempts, where did the Chinese slam the multi-axle from?

You understand correctly, in some messages you do not need to adhere to strict accountability. It is disgusting to watch how all this shobla of liberal figures is pretending to be some kind of aristocrats. They learned to “eat” in public without chomping and to hold a knife in their right hand. And they strive to refuel not with a hand, but with a fork ... Hence the demographic failures ...
One smart guy gave dozens of reasons for Russia to spit on all these rules of world trade and production, on plagiarism and copy-paste ...
It seemed that it was easier to take and copy an aircraft engine. But the Chinese have not yet succeeded ... Ours have microelectronics, and they have aircraft jet engines.
And why should we trade Russian goods ALWAYS for dollars or other hard currency. Why is our ruble not satisfied? Who does not give him a wide road?
It's funny to me how the West sets some ceilings for hydrocarbons in dollars ... Yes, to hell with you! And in rubles it will cost this much ... No rubles - walk along the ceiling ...

[rocket757]

Kim Jong-un announced his intention to create the "most powerful" strategic nuclear forces in the world

. Another translation problem???
For domestic consumption, it’s still there - here, but out there, this is an empty promise, it’s not real and it’s not necessary.

[buslaif]

In 1965, the USSR supplied North Korea with the IRT-2000 nuclear reactor for the Nuclear Research Center in Yongbyon. Over the next 20 years, the USSR trained 300 North Korean scientists to operate the nuclear reactor. In the development of nuclear weapons, the DPRK did not receive assistance from the USSR and the PRC, but assistance in the development of the "peaceful atom" turned out to be sufficient. In the eighties, a program for the development of atomic weapons appears, and from that time on, events begin to develop quite dynamically. The DPRK has its own school for training specialists with work both with "peaceful atom" and with the military. Thanks to the help of the USSR in 1979, the Koreans began to build their own reactor. In 1985, the DPRK (under pressure from the USSR) signs a treaty on the nonproliferation of nuclear weapons , and at the beginning of the 2006s, the country's leadership headed for a new self-isolation and announced its intention to withdraw from the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.After the first explosion of the atomic bomb in 2009, the DPRK began to arrange new tests every three to four years: in 2013, 2016 -m, two tests in 2017, then in XNUMX.

[buslaif]

Quote: yuriy55

Our?! Whose is yours?! Ours knew how to make An-2, but yours has been pushing for thirty years, but it cannot be born ...

The special wheeled chassis KAMAZ-7850 "Platform-O" will be produced in 2023.
After that, the Strategic Missile Forces and other types of troops will begin to get rid of heavy wheeled vehicles from Belarus.

[Oleg Ogorod]

No, no, we want today
No, no, we want now...
The O platform has been in development for a long time and the results of O.
There is only a month left until 2023. Were there already prototypes in the Strategic Missile Forces or tactical missile forces?
Platform O decided to be ahead of the rest and made a bet on electric motors in the wheel. Which caused numerous problems.

[Plate]

North Korea intends to create the "most powerful" strategic nuclear force in the world to protect the sovereignty of the North Korean people and state. This was stated by the head of the DPRK Kim Jong-un.

Then I declare that the DPRK must be demolished urgently.

[smart fellow]

Don't freak out. The United States, for example, did not dare to do this even when the DPRK did not have nuclear weapons.

[Plate]

If Kim really is able to organize this, then as a result he will become generally uncontrollable. He will say: “Come on, lift the sanctions, otherwise I’ll destroy everyone, and let’s also give trade preferences, otherwise you yourself know what.” And what to do then?
So I don’t really care if the North Koreans will fatten themselves at the expense of lucrative contracts or eat grass. I am worried that they are turning into another major nuclear power. It seems to me that it is in our own interests that this does not happen. And in the interests of the United States, China, France and Britain too. But alas, we are busy dismantling with each other.
I think Kim is only the first of those who will try to take advantage of all this. Although, perhaps, the second, given Erdogan.

[Oleg Ogorod]

Kim is not a threat to Russia. How Russia is not a threat to Kim.
Korean salads are too closely linked to Russia. And orders to Kim are now as beneficial to Russia as orders to the Persians.
Erdogan, just like an old prostitute, is looking for a profit for himself. That's life. This is politics.
Politics was also at the beginning of the founding of Rus'. And then all subsequent years. different policy.

[Plate]

Quote: Oleg Ogorod

Kim is not a threat to Russia.

This is for now. Perhaps it will continue to be so. But if Russia is going to regain the status of a superpower, then Kim will become a threat to such plans.

[smart fellow]

If Kim really is able to organize this, then as a result he will become generally uncontrollable. He will say: “Come on, lift the sanctions, otherwise I’ll destroy everyone, and let’s also give trade preferences, otherwise you yourself know what.” And what to do then?

North Korea is a sovereign and independent state. It does not obey anyone and is not controlled by anyone from the outside. Nuclear weapons for the DPRK are weapons of defense, not attack.

[Boniface]

I’m wondering one thing here: where did Kim get weapons-grade Plutonium or Uranus 235?
Does the UK have its own deposits?

[Mitia68]

There are no deposits.
For nuclear weapons, they use plutonium extracted from spent nuclear fuel. We bought fuel from the USSR and China.

[smart fellow]

North Korea has commercial uranium deposits. Koreans obtain weapons-grade uranium, of course, by enrichment in centrifuges, and weapons-grade plutonium by extracting it from spent nuclear fuel.
If you are interested, the program "Nuclear Program of the DPRK" from the Revolutionary Initiative should be released today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-V1wyGxSAo

[Mitia68]

is the greatest and most important revolutionary cause

Does he accidentally have no intention of simply feeding his subjects? Or is it not that important?

The next country to become the owner of nuclear weapons could be South Korea.

The South Caucasus already has a very developed nuclear industry. 27% of their electricity is generated by nuclear power plants. 23 operating reactors (we have 37 for comparison) and most of them are of our own construction. In general, the most powerful nuclear power plant in the world is located in the South Caucasus! They are already building nuclear power reactors abroad as well.
Creating nuclear weapons is not a particular problem for them, but the South Caucasus has signed the NPT (unlike the DPRK) and does not intend to withdraw from it yet.

[Vasyan1971]

It seems that in the photo presented in the article, the only one who eats well and regularly is a man in white ...

The North Korean leader and his daughter held a meeting with the military, scientists and workers of enterprises that contributed to the creation of a new Hwaseong-17 intercontinental ballistic missile.

I hope people were fed at the meeting...

[Antokha]

According to Kelly, South Korea can no longer rely on the United States as a guarantor of its sovereignty, so it will create its own tools of containment.

And there is no need to restrain anyone, just stay away from North Korea, and everything will be quiet. But if it comes to a fight, there is a possibility that Kim Jong-un will use nuclear weapons without looking back at anyone, which cannot be said about any other leader in the world. And here it will not save the fact that the southerners also have it.