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The military correspondent commented on the destruction of American howitzers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine using the interaction of UAVs and artillery

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The military correspondent commented on the destruction of American howitzers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine using the interaction of UAVs and artillery

The direction and adjustment of artillery fire with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles leads to impressive and very effective results. This conclusion is made in his Telegram channel by military commander Alexander Sladkov, commenting on the footage of the destruction of American howitzers in the Zaporozhye region.


American-made M777 howitzers in service with Ukrainian artillery were destroyed the day before in the Zaporozhye region as a result of well-coordinated work of an unmanned aviation and Russian artillerymen. The artillery strike was corrected by the calculation of the Orlan-30 unmanned aerial vehicle.

The UAV transmitted the exact coordinates of enemy artillery to Russian troops. On the positions of the enemy, they worked out the Krasnopol high-precision guided artillery munition. Work frames published in the ANNA-NEWS Telegram channel.

Just Orlan-30 plus Krasnopol, and there is no other American howitzer. And you don’t have to spend a wagon of shells, load, reload, load

- comments presented footage of military commander Sladkov.

According to Sladkov, such unmanned aerial vehicles should be in service with every regiment of the Russian army. After all, just one laser adjustment and one guided munition is enough to destroy one enemy target.

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  1. Kaufman
    Kaufman 24 November 2022 11: 36
    -17
    What will get. But somehow to the point. 9 months of SVO, not a single declared goal has been achieved. And on some points and vice versa, they moved away from the goals.
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 24 November 2022 12: 27
      +5
      Quote: kaufman
      And on some points and vice versa, they moved away from the goals.

      For example, for what?
      1. Kaufman
        Kaufman 24 November 2022 13: 36
        +5
        From the complete demilitarization of ukroina
        1. SKVichyakow
          SKVichyakow 24 November 2022 16: 32
          +2
          Quote: kaufman
          From the complete demilitarization of Ukraine

          Complete demilitarization will take place on the Polish border, but where are we?
        2. YOUR
          YOUR 25 November 2022 05: 20
          +3
          Those. Do you think that our guys do not fight there, but they beat the buckets. An interesting approach.
          1. Kaufman
            Kaufman 25 November 2022 07: 20
            -2
            I don't think so, by any means. Just in time for the fighters on the front line, there are no questions. However, we are retreating, surrendering territories, and demilitarization is a forgotten word.
            1. Vladimir Sedov
              Vladimir Sedov 26 November 2022 09: 05
              -1
              Actually there is no retreat. There has been a change of priorities. By mid-March, a group of 120 thousand people had captured a territory along a front of 2300 kilometers. Apparently, they expected that the bitskrieg would force Kuev to negotiate. But Western "partners" intervened. Ukrainian weapons, as such, were destroyed by May. Today we are dealing with a NATO grouping on our western flank. Naturally, the tasks and their solution have changed. Therefore, the departure from Kherson. Vsu in Kherson, this is a trap for fools. I hope that there will be no more changes in plans.
          2. werwolf1981
            werwolf1981 26 November 2022 00: 22
            -1
            Buckwheaters beat the ranks who are sitting at the top, and are engaged in goodwill gestures, everything could have been finished for a long time !!! Did you hear Peskov??? Svo does not aim to overthrow Zelensky!!! Only how without eliminating him and all his relatives to achieve the goals of his is not clear. Putin expresses regret - Donbass should have been annexed in 2014 !! Oh mummies!!! Woke up!!! He himself said with the accession it is not necessary to rush the year 14 or 15 that way !!! The bathroom will soon begin to speak - oh, the goodwill gestures were made in vain, oh, the mobilization should have been carried out back in April 2022 !!!! And the people of the fairy tale of the Vienna Woods hawk !!!
            1. YOUR
              YOUR 26 November 2022 04: 50
              +1
              You are 43 years old, you are suitable for mobilization, but you just go through the call. Forward to the NWO zone, show them all how to fight.
              1. Kaufman
                Kaufman 26 November 2022 06: 50
                +1
                You need to plan right! The General Staff should work, and politicians and oligarchs should help, not interfere. As for mobilization, I didn’t leave for Kazakhstan and other Georgia. I work for the good of the country in a state-owned company. Do not throw populist slogans. I understand that suffocating anger from the fact that everything is going wrong.
    2. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 24 November 2022 22: 56
      +3
      The direction and adjustment of artillery fire with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles leads to impressive and very effective results....

      Oh wow, what a revelation. Otherwise, it was not clear before ... Apparently, the experience of recent conflicts did not teach anyone anything ... Or, as in the proverb: "it only reaches the giraffe on the second day ... (the neck is long ...) .... winked
    3. Valery Vl.
      Valery Vl. 26 November 2022 02: 05
      +1
      Are you sure that the operation should be carried out according to your patterns? For example, I see her quite differently. At least you bothered to read the initial tasks set by Putin, and our requirements for NATO. It’s easier for us, on the basis of the existing logistics, to clear not only the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but also all other zas..antsev supplying them, to reduce the number of livestock .. And then go skating rink along the entire square to the very border. We still have three goals in the Baltics and an ultimatum to Poland to withdraw from NATO. I think Europe will agree.
  2. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 24 November 2022 11: 36
    +8
    destruction of American howitzers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine using the interaction of UAVs and artillery
    Well, this is just a breakthrough in military affairs.
    1. S. Nikolaev
      S. Nikolaev 24 November 2022 11: 54
      +11
      The direction and adjustment of artillery fire with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles leads to impressive and very effective results.

      ) Oh really! Who would have thought!
      1. neworange88
        neworange88 24 November 2022 12: 03
        +18
        The lessons of the SVO for the army are gradually coming to fruition. Russia is increasing the effectiveness of artillery, drawing lessons from the special operation in Ukraine.

        “Smerch is driven to the factory, where it is remade, a high-precision guidance unit and a set of high-precision missiles are added, a kind of analogue of HIMARS, but hitting much further, 120 km, and tied to the Orlan-30 reconnaissance system. And this system is becoming a combat unit, which has already begun to enter the troops - there, in the zone of the special operation, which is a positive thing. I am sure that Rostec will continue to improve these systems, and in our country the Tornado-S will become the main type of weaponry, which was the Tornadoes,” Leonkov said.


        The second important and promising area of ​​work in the artillery segment, the expert calls an increase in the share of high-precision projectiles. First of all, we are talking about the controlled systems "Krasnopol" and "Krasnopol-M2". ..... Ideally, "Krasnopoli" will allow Russian artillery to work on the principle of "one shot - one tank", and due to this, the consumption of ammunition will be reduced significantly.

        https://rueconomics.ru/23764852-leonkov_rasskazal_kak_spetsoperatsiya_na_ukraine_usilivaet_artilleriyu_rf

        And before, what prevented you from switching to high-precision systems? Or why, when during the exercises, and so all the good fellows and without high-precision weapons, and so everyone will be given medals for the exercises? But the SVO began and life put everything in its place.
        1. Mazunga
          Mazunga 24 November 2022 17: 39
          +1
          Polonaise must be purchased and 200-300 km are covered with high-precision missiles, all the more so this is our ally and the caliber 300 chimera will hang himself with longing
          1. neworange88
            neworange88 24 November 2022 17: 46
            +3
            Quote from Mazunga
            Polonaise must be purchased and 200-300 km are covered with high-precision missiles, all the more so this is our ally and the caliber 300 chimera will hang himself with longing


            As far as I know, for Tornado-S in the process of testing a rocket for 250 km, if someone didn’t lie. So why Polonaise?
            1. Mazunga
              Mazunga 24 November 2022 19: 08
              +1
              200km at maximum speed and we already have 20 of them, well, somehow we don’t need Polonaises, so we don’t need them
        2. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 24 November 2022 23: 01
          0
          And there, no one had looked at accuracy before. How did our "unparalleled" and "Western models" compete before? In order to surpass in range, caliber and power ... and accuracy ... yes, figs with it - "let's take it in quantity and power" - so, until quite recently, our military leaders probably thought. But it turned out that in the 20s of the 21st century, other "winds" were already blowing in military affairs due to progress in microelectronics .... and not only in it ....
      2. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 24 November 2022 16: 36
        +2
        Quote: S. Nikolaev
        The direction and adjustment of artillery fire with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles leads to impressive and very effective results.

        ) Oh really! Who would have thought!

        So no one has done this before? There are more and more questions, but what happened before? Eye on that side?
        1. S. Nikolaev
          S. Nikolaev 24 November 2022 17: 48
          +1
          And before, what prevented you from switching to high-precision systems?

          So no one has done this before? There are more and more questions, but what happened before?


          Come on, you already wind it up)
          It’s just that the author put it poorly, here, those who passed by and joked a little
      3. Sergei Kazarin
        Sergei Kazarin 25 November 2022 00: 30
        -1
        Moreover, Orlan was developed under Serdyukov and for 10 years Kozhuget did not manage to buy in large quantities.
        Like everything else like Armat, Kurgans, Boomerangs, Orions, products 305 and other things developed under Serdyukov
        1. SergeyB
          SergeyB 25 November 2022 07: 56
          +1
          Quote: Sergey Kazarin
          Moreover, Orlan was developed under Serdyukov and for 10 years Kozhuget did not manage to buy in large quantities.
          Like everything else like Armat, Kurgans, Boomerangs, Orions, products 305 and other things developed under Serdyukov

          Eagles produced about 1500 copies.
          Which, as it were, is dofiga, compared to any other UAVs of a comparable class.
          How many do you think there should have been these devices?
      4. Scalpel
        Scalpel 26 November 2022 11: 57
        0
        This, as they say: "Do not do the impossible, do what you need!"
    2. Cananecat
      Cananecat 24 November 2022 12: 00
      +7
      Quote: Trapp1st
      Well, this is just a breakthrough in military affairs.

      After 9 months, the SVO, and before that, observing a potential enemy and studying his tactics ... finally gave birth.
      Sladkov, however, as always ... it would be possible to present information from the front line somehow differently ... otherwise, yes ... "captain-evidence."
      1. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 24 November 2022 12: 03
        +4
        and before that, observing a potential enemy and studying his tactics
        and after 4 days, the Vigilant Eye noticed that one wall was missing ... Seriously, it seems that no one was engaged in real preparations for the war, they just don’t even have a clue about it.
      2. Myths
        Myths 24 November 2022 12: 34
        +5
        It's more of an irony. So many units are waiting for UAVs, but the understanding of this is apparently slow for someone, only volunteers understand, they buy and send it to the guys.
  3. WILL
    WILL 24 November 2022 11: 37
    +3
    It would be beautiful if weapons and ammunition were destroyed on the border of the outskirts.
    Well, that's a plus too.
  4. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 24 November 2022 11: 38
    +4
    This is already a CLASSIC, I'm talking about a bunch of drone art, and ultra-precise ammunition for such purposes is always better than hitting the area.
  5. avg avg
    avg avg 24 November 2022 11: 42
    +5
    Well, if Sladkov himself said, then yes! After all, it is well known that the head is sweet!
    1. Scalpel
      Scalpel 26 November 2022 12: 00
      0
      At least not only three and a half cripples listen to him!
      1. avg avg
        avg avg 27 November 2022 08: 22
        0
        Sweet is the usual hype eater and General Obviousness!
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 November 2022 11: 42
    -1
    Here’s the calculation of 777 for the “plant”, left the forest plantation? It was impossible to make a position there.
    1. bk316
      bk316 24 November 2022 13: 27
      +5
      Especially the command staff, they are all from yesterday's war.

      Believe me, they are not from the war. In 85, the commander of 2a36 was hammered into me about two spare positions and about the camouflage of the gun and about the organization of the position (about cellars, about shelter for calculating parapets and passages) both in the bushes and in the field and in the forest. I look at the videos and I'm horrified.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 24 November 2022 13: 42
        +2
        I’m just a private, but I’m horrified myself. I served in the GSVG, we had Baranov Alexander Ivanovich as the head of headquarters. How many cards he had, many times more than the commander.
        1. bk316
          bk316 24 November 2022 15: 00
          +9
          You just guess. There is a D-30 battery in an open field - no trenches, no armor (they brought guns on Kamaz trucks). And the enemy has three sevens or hyacinth, but at least the same 30.
          Scattering of fragments is several HUNDRED METERS. THE ENEMY DOES NOT NEED ANY Spotter UAV, DO NOT NEED A SPOINTER AT ALL with an accuracy of 200-300 meters, from the first (well, second) shot at a distance of 15 km, I will hit with guidance on the compass. And they are in an open field, as at Borodino. Damn how is that possible?
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 24 November 2022 15: 26
            +1
            I myself am horrified by some positions with mountains of shells.
            1. single-n
              single-n 24 November 2022 15: 57
              +3
              I don't know what the rules are now. But in 40-50, about 100 shells were assigned to suppress the battery. And for one bunker, about 300. It seems that training and equipment have not grown in the RF Armed Forces since then.
  7. Uprun
    Uprun 24 November 2022 11: 44
    0
    Yes, this is not hand-to-hand, wall to wall, progress is sweeping the planet, both in terms of consumer goods and in the military-industrial complex.
    1. ism_ek
      ism_ek 24 November 2022 12: 12
      +2
      Quote from uprun
      Yes, this is not hand-to-hand, wall to wall,

      Is not a fact. The enemy also has drones and precision-guided munitions, and most importantly, the enemy makes decisions much faster. We have no advantage in counter-battery combat. Recently, in the frames of the chronicle, Hyacinths and Acacias removed from storage flicker. New Msta seems to be "out of the chat" So far, we are holding on due to the number.
      1. Scalpel
        Scalpel 26 November 2022 12: 03
        0
        Now is the moment of truth! Or our army will learn to make decisions faster, or at least not slower, that is, there is a chance to rectify the situation. And if not, they will crawl further
  8. Reindeer
    Reindeer 24 November 2022 11: 49
    +2
    Judging by the vegetation, it was a long time ago. It’s clear why they didn’t show it before - but I’m glad that things are going quite successfully, and it didn’t start yesterday (I’m talking about communication, teamwork and all that stuff).
  9. MikMikls
    MikMikls 24 November 2022 11: 56
    +1
    If he said that the production of Krasnopoles had grown to ? pieces per month and gunners provided with them in full would be very good. great.
  10. Predometrix
    Predometrix 24 November 2022 12: 09
    +5
    Just Orlan-30 plus Krasnopol, and there is no other American howitzer. And you don’t have to spend a wagon of shells, load, reload, load


    And so it was possible?
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 24 November 2022 12: 20
    +3
    The direction and adjustment of artillery fire with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles leads to impressive and very effective results.
    . So it's not a secret for anyone that a clear interaction of all departments leads to an increase in the efficiency of everyone and in general !!!
    To build up and improve, to provide all the necessary units, this is the task for managers and supporters.
    Also, the military-industrial complex should work as it should ...
  12. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 24 November 2022 12: 22
    +6
    After all, just one laser adjustment and one guided munition is enough to destroy one enemy target.

    Well, a revelation from above. wassat And the previous decades it was not clear?
    1. vadim dok
      vadim dok 24 November 2022 14: 24
      +1
      Forgive me generously! Does the Russian army use guided munitions at all?
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 24 November 2022 20: 00
        -1
        Quote: vadim dok
        Does the Russian army use guided munitions at all?

        Apparently, sporadically. Apparently it’s hard for the generals to realize that one guided projectile for 20k greenery, but hitting the first time, is cheaper than half a truckload of blanks, I’m silent about barrel wear, which also results in expenses.
    2. Scalpel
      Scalpel 26 November 2022 12: 06
      +1
      This is not enough. It is necessary that it is clear even to the elders of 65+ years old, consider the highest ranks!
  13. acetophenone
    acetophenone 24 November 2022 12: 23
    +2
    Our army was not ready for SUCH a war. From the word "completely". "How to go hunting, so feed the dogs" - this is about us.
  14. Maks1995
    Maks1995 24 November 2022 12: 32
    +4
    The problem is that Artillery strikes based on the results of UAV reconnaissance have been practiced by the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a long, long time ...
    1. single-n
      single-n 24 November 2022 16: 00
      +1
      And according to the correction with a PLA like a balloon of the century, that way from 19 :) It seems that even then they realized that hitting the area is a road to nowhere. And then, after almost a year of the war, regular officers realized that an adjustment was needed.
  15. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 24 November 2022 12: 42
    -3
    Weapons provided by the West last less than candy at the school door.
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  17. vadim dok
    vadim dok 24 November 2022 14: 21
    +1
    A new word in tactics, and maybe in strategy! It's just "captain-obvious"!
  18. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 24 November 2022 14: 34
    0
    According to Sladkov, such unmanned aerial vehicles should be in service with every regiment of the Russian army.

    Orlani should be in every company, and minicopters in every squad.
    1. stankow
      stankow 25 November 2022 00: 39
      +1
      Where do you get operators? Or will the squad leader look through the screen while the battle? laughing
    2. Georgy Sviridov_2
      Georgy Sviridov_2 27 November 2022 14: 24
      0
      And what will the eagles do in each company? Just to be?
      Another thing is that it is time to introduce a separate UAV company in the brigade, and separate UAV platoons in the battalions.
      Well, that's not counting those of the reconnaissance, gunners and management of the brigade and battalions.
      Company commanders have no sense in birds, but good quadrics, large ones, with a powerful camera, a thermal camera, yes. A small copter, a pair per platoon. According to the copter per squad, it makes sense only to scouts. Although this copter for reconnaissance is also not a panacea, because if the enemy finds it in the rear or in the gray zone, he will understand that there is an enemy there, as a result, he will drive drones there and try to surround the scouts. The copter, with all its advantages, is a demasking factor. Seeing where he flies, the enemy will accurately outline the search perimeter for his operator.
  19. Georgy Sviridov_2
    Georgy Sviridov_2 24 November 2022 14: 59
    +2
    Well, the art brigades definitely had drones, and in most others. The question is in the red fields and, of course, in the ability to quickly make up for material losses. For the first couple of months, we lost a lot of birds, and no one brought new ones.
    Well, the lack of proofreaders. It’s one thing to fly around the corner of a building with a copter and see if there is someone there or not, and it’s quite another to fly a bird, direct red lines, adjust shelling, you can’t learn this in 1 day. Such positions in the peacetime staff were often vacant, and there was no way to "call from the reserve", 10-15 years ago such specialists were not trained at all.
    Of course, specially trained people should be able to correct and direct without drones, this goes without saying. But the presence of drones greatly simplifies the task, and allows you to operate at a great depth of enemy territory. Because, let's say, keeping a reconnaissance group with a gunner on each sector of the front is unrealistic.
    In general, it is strange that we use reconnaissance groups very little, because an observer in the gray zone is very useful, including for delivering preventive strikes. It’s one thing if the enemy artillery worked, let the counter-battalion combat station settle in it, a bird flew into a given square, but it’s not a fact that the enemy hasn’t taken the artillery away ... And the gunner can inform in advance about the advance of the artillery so that the bird flies to the intended area before artillery fired back and work ahead of the curve, while it is just turning around.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 24 November 2022 23: 49
      -1
      Yesterday there was an article with a film about how the Armed Forces of Ukraine "repulsed the offensive". I watched and freaked out. A "bronik" arrived with 9 people. These 9 people were "advancing". A part allegedly died during the "offensive", the rest gathered in a column and without any particular hurry, under the watchful eye of our drone, went into the forest ... That's how it was, there was an "offensive". They also showed the "fortified area" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, from which it was also possible to go nuts - incomplete trenches about one and a half meters deep, cells somewhere about half a meter, shallow dugouts covered with thin poles, with rags on which the earth was thrown - that's all " fortified area "..... Hmm.
    2. Alexey Lantukh
      Alexey Lantukh 25 November 2022 15: 23
      0
      In fact, earlier in each artillery regiment there was an artillery reconnaissance division. And artillery scouts reconnoitered targets by sound, by flashes, by seismic, visually, and not only by the testimony of birds. Something about this is not heard. It looks like our counter-battery fight is weak.
  20. Kusja
    Kusja 24 November 2022 15: 27
    +2
    They report about these 777 just like about some kind of indestructible deity ...
  21. Dmitry Tsarevich
    Dmitry Tsarevich 24 November 2022 16: 46
    0
    After reading the comments, the words of the great Rustaveli are recalled: “Everyone fancies himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side.” There is also a whole garden of whiners and all-weeders, ugh, and these are men ...
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  23. Svetlana
    Svetlana 24 November 2022 21: 13
    0
    An article on a short comment on the news from Anna-Nevs, you need to be able to do this.

  24. Alexey Lantukh
    Alexey Lantukh 25 November 2022 15: 14
    0
    This has never happened before and here it is again. (V. Chernomyrdin). The Krasnopolye projectile was delivered to China. In 1997, the PRC acquired a license, and since 2000, production has been established in the PRC. It seems that we had absolutely nothing of such shells in Russia, since the topic was raised. I wonder why this direction of artillery was hampered.
    1. Georgy Sviridov_2
      Georgy Sviridov_2 25 November 2022 16: 09
      0
      The first laser-corrected mines for tulips appeared back in the USSR and were used in both Afghanistan and Chesny ...
      Another thing is that hundreds of millions of shells were gathering dust in warehouses, and in the army there are tens of thousands of artillery barrels. Until a major conflict began, it was much easier to roll up a hundred howitzers and gouge anything at all with ordinary shells ... Therefore, new shells were not forced.
    2. Scalpel
      Scalpel 26 November 2022 12: 12
      0
      There were a decent number of them, but of course many times less than usual. They are not cheap! But much cheaper than calibers and himars! I think they need at least 15 thousand to have parity. And howitzers are not weaker than D-20
  25. Mikhail Maslov
    Mikhail Maslov 25 November 2022 17: 19
    0
    About the counter-battery fight. The Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves demonstrate such a scheme at the position, let’s say the same three axes turn around and start working on ours. Ours calculate the positions and begin to counter-fight. Hymers successfully suppresses our artillery. Moreover, the hunt is for a large caliber. Therefore, an experienced enemy cannot solve the problem with UAVs alone and rebuilds very quickly, comprehensive measures are needed, especially in terms of reconnaissance and interaction
  26. Expert2017
    Expert2017 26 November 2022 00: 39
    -1
    Let's start with where Orlan 30 used to be? And where are our new self-propelled guns. Why is it a problem for us to make a gun for 56-58 calibers based on the T-90 chassis. Where are our GLONASS shells with a range of 50+ km a la Excalibur? What did Rogozin, Borisov, Shoigu and others ... of our country do? Were they going to conduct a counter-battery fight with the help of the MLRS? Good. Then where is our high-precision for Hurricane with a range of 50-80 km?
  27. Crete 25
    Crete 25 26 November 2022 11: 39
    0
    Ash leaves fell from the oak
    "Don't give a damn," I said to myself.
    And really, and really -
    Officially, officially!

    How everything is on time with us, it's some kind of horror