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The fall in generation in Ukraine broke records: the results of today's missile attack of the Russian Armed Forces

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The fall in generation in Ukraine broke records: the results of today's missile attack of the Russian Armed Forces

On November 23, a massive missile attack was launched on the territory of the Independent. Together with previous shelling, it led to a cumulative effect: in Ukraine, there was a large-scale drop in generation that broke all previous records.


According to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in total about 70 Kh-101, Kh-555, and Caliber cruise missiles were fired (from 10 Tu-95MS bombers and two small missile ships), 51 of which were allegedly destroyed by air defense along with 5 drones -kamikaze "Lancet"; 16 infrastructure facilities were hit.

Air defense works well. It is a pity that there is no light and heat

- said one of the Ukrainian "patriots" with sarcasm.

The Ukrainians themselves understand that the statements of the command that almost 90% of the missiles were shot down are nothing more than propaganda. There are a lot of videos on the net where explosions of SAMs of air defense systems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are presented as allegedly intercepted Russian missiles. After all, if the Kyiv regime does not begin to declare the effectiveness of air defense (even in the absence of it), then the West will simply stop supplying its air defense systems.

Returning to the cumulative effect of the destruction of energy infrastructure facilities: Kyiv, Lvov, Odessa, Lutsk, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev, Kharkov, Sumy, Rivne, Krivoy Rog turned out to be de-energized. According to Ukrenergo, there will be no electricity in most of the territory of Ukraine during the day due to emergency shutdowns.

Failures in the railway communication are announced, reserve locomotives were taken out on the way. In the capital, the work of the metro and the ring train has been stopped, there are huge queues for buses and gas stations. Internet traffic dropped sharply in all areas. A "ricochet" blow to the Ukrainian infrastructure also hit Moldova, which depends on the supplies of its neighbor.

Russia plunged Moldova into darkness. We cannot trust a regime that leaves us without light and heat. Our only path must be towards the free world

- said Prime Minister Maia Sandu, who is implementing a Russophobic course in the most impoverished country in Europe after Ukraine.

The destruction of thermal power plants and hydroelectric power plants is only part of the work. At the end of 2021, more than half of the electricity in Ukraine was generated at nuclear power plants. In this regard, the task is to turn them into islands unconnected to the general network, forced to work at idle. It is solved by destroying boost substations. As a result of today's airstrike, the capacities transmitting current from the nuclear power plant to the common system were disabled, which for the first time led to the shutdown of the power units of all three nuclear power plants of the independent one.

Due to a decrease in the frequency in the power system of Ukraine, emergency protection worked at the Rivne, South Ukrainian and Khmelnytsky NPPs, as a result of which all power units were automatically turned off. They operate in design mode, without generation into the power system

- noted in Energoatom.

Earlier, the authorities of the Kyiv regime convinced the population that after the supply of Western IRIS / T and NASAMS air defense systems, a reliable barrier would be created in front of Russian missiles. Apparently, the leadership of the independent itself believed in the "wonderful properties" of Western systems, concentrating them in the capital. After today's strike, residents of Kyiv are publishing images of fragments from ammunition from Western air defense systems, the work of which led to civilian casualties, but did not affect the flight of Russian missiles.

Kyiv officials are pinning their hopes on the imminent devastation of Russia's missile arsenals. Perhaps it is no coincidence that Dmitry Medvedev today visited an assembly shop for the production of missiles, which he shared on social networks.



Neither your rockets, nor your "martyrs" will bring our desire for negotiations one step closer. Negotiations - only through the sight

- said one of the leaders of the Kyiv regime A. Danilov.

The Ukrainian authorities hope that the collapse of the country's energy system will be compensated for by the mass installation of generators, the supply of which has been launched from Europe. Zelensky announced the creation of 4 points for the provision of basic services, where, in his words, people can already use water, electricity, mobile communications, and the Internet.

It is possible that their number will be increased, covering a larger population. However, it should be taken into account that the operation of such points will require colossal supplies of fuel and lubricants, which will fall on the shoulders of the West. And most importantly, generators can somehow make life easier for people, but they will not be able, without hitting the cost, to power enterprises (factories, large farms, elevators and other mechanized facilities), thanks to which the Ukrainian economy still kept afloat and made it possible to receive the resources of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In the context of the coming collapse of the economy, the West will have to significantly increase funding for the Kyiv regime in order to keep the population from mass emigration, taking it to full dependency. According to the recently published data of the Ukrainian parliament, the number of residents of the independent region decreased from 24 million to 34,5 million by September compared to February 27. And this is official statistics. In reality, it may turn out to be another 2-3 million less.

Further outflow of the population will lead to the loss of the mobilization resource and the disorganization of the rear infrastructure of the Ukrainian army. Current bills for equipping the Armed Forces of Ukraine and providing macro-financial assistance will seem to the West pocket expenses compared to full subsidizing of the independent. As a result of today's bombing alone, the United States allocated an additional $400 million to the Kyiv regime.

Even if the West, ignoring its own needs, agrees to take over Ukraine, the effectiveness of the assistance provided in the conditions of the total corruption of the Kyiv regime will be a big question mark. Billions of dollars can end up in the pockets of local officials without making life any easier for ordinary people. Moreover, there are already a lot of precedents for the looting of humanitarian aid, and at every step of power. As a result, sooner or later, the West will ask itself: is the game worth the candle? While the West believes that - yes, it is worth it, since the game is against Russia. But the West has not forgotten how to count money...
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  1. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 23 November 2022 21: 31
    -17
    Am I the only one reading this? The generator generates energy! What device generates the generation?
    Not bad, the pilots of our long-range aviation are gaining combat experience. Sailors launch our missiles like logs at all addresses. The Germans are already complaining about the lack of weapons in Germany!
    1. konstantin68
      konstantin68 23 November 2022 21: 37
      +29
      Quote: seregatara1969
      Am I the only one reading this? The generator generates energy! What device generates the generation?
      Not bad, the pilots of our long-range aviation are gaining combat experience. Sailors launch our missiles like logs at all addresses. The Germans are already complaining about the lack of weapons in Germany!

      Read your post carefully! It looks like reading and writing is not yours, sorry.
      1. Rage66
        Rage66 23 November 2022 22: 07
        +7
        It is difficult to answer this stream of thought... Am I the only one who reads like this? request
    2. Normal
      Normal 23 November 2022 21: 48
      +5
      Drinker? What are you "generating"?
      1. sso-xnumx
        sso-xnumx 23 November 2022 21: 56
        +8
        It’s the same in Ukrainian transcription, that is, “generatsyi” ...
        1. Normal
          Normal 23 November 2022 21: 58
          +3
          Not strong in this, my friend) But I believe)))
          1. Machito
            Machito 23 November 2022 23: 11
            +19
            Let's drink to the decommunization and de-electrification of Ukraine. drinks drinks drinks How about degassing?
            1. Victor_B
              Victor_B 24 November 2022 00: 08
              +18
              Quote: Bearded
              Let's drink to the decommunization and de-electrification of Ukraine. drinks drinks drinks How about degassing?
              And more degeneration!
              But no ... With this, they have everything in a bunch!
            2. Keer
              Keer 24 November 2022 01: 17
              0
              The de-electification of civilian facilities does not prevent the Armed Forces of Ukraine from supplying and fighting. Which, in fact, was to be expected. Any army is imprisoned for action in an environment of destroyed civilian infrastructure. And, then, from the infrastructure, which is really critical for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it is not subjected to strikes.
              1. lopvlad
                lopvlad 24 November 2022 02: 57
                +21
                Quote: Keer
                Any army is imprisoned for action in an environment of destroyed civilian infrastructure.


                with just one small clarification. Namely, the army is imprisoned to operate in an environment of destroyed civilian infrastructure only with the full functioning of this very civilian infrastructure in its rear. If the factories in the USSR had not been evacuated beyond the Urals, then no Western Lend-Lease would have ensured us victory in the Second World War.
                1. Keer
                  Keer 24 November 2022 14: 53
                  +3
                  A question of priorities. It is possible to selectively destroy non-key elements of the energy structure and wait for a long chain of causes and effects to finally stop the supply of the enemy's aircraft. So far, this has not happened, but in the future, probably, maybe it will happen. And you can directly attack the supply lines.
                  1. bk316
                    bk316 24 November 2022 15: 17
                    0
                    You can selectively destroy non-key elements of the energy structure

                    It is possible, but we do not do this, we are destroying the KEY elements of the energy structure.
                    1. Keer
                      Keer 24 November 2022 15: 26
                      0
                      The key ones are those without which, at the same time! 1. The power system cannot meet the needs of the enemy in the volumes necessary for the sustainable maintenance of B.D. 2. Recovery, which requires a significant amount of time, and resources that are not available at the moment. Neither is observed. Hence the conclusion: the elements are not key from the point of view of the organization of the B.D. of Ukraine.
                      1. bk316
                        bk316 24 November 2022 17: 48
                        +1
                        The key ones are those without which, at the same time! 1. The power system cannot meet the needs of the enemy in the volumes necessary for the sustainable maintenance of B.D. 2. Recovery, which requires a significant amount of time, and resources that are not available at the moment. Neither is observed. Hence the conclusion: the elements are not key from the point of view of the organization of the B.D. of Ukraine.

                        You simply name them.
                      2. Keer
                        Keer 24 November 2022 18: 01
                        0
                        Machine rooms of thermal power plants, 750 kV substations
                      3. bk316
                        bk316 24 November 2022 18: 03
                        +1
                        substations for 750 kV

                        So they hit them.
                        By the way, they are nothing in 404.
                2. Keer
                  Keer 24 November 2022 14: 58
                  +3
                  Hence the conclusion. Since the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to be successfully supplied, it means that the elements of the Ukrainian infrastructure chosen for the attack are not critical for the enemy.
              2. Pantsuy
                Pantsuy 24 November 2022 06: 14
                +8
                Quote: Keer
                The de-electification of civilian facilities does not prevent the Armed Forces of Ukraine from supplying and fighting. Which, in fact, was to be expected. Any army is imprisoned for action in an environment of destroyed civilian infrastructure. And, then, from the infrastructure, which is really critical for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it is not subjected to strikes.

                The experience of Yugoslavia shows that such tactics are very effective. The army of Yugoslavia was almost all intact, but Milosevic surrendered so as not to torment his citizens with the lack of basic life support.
                Kyiv regime. of course, it will be much more stubborn, but over time they will realize the futility of the war with the complete collapse of the entire rear infrastructure. After all, energy is only the beginning.
                1. Plate
                  Plate 24 November 2022 06: 53
                  +11
                  Quote: Pantsuy
                  The army of Yugoslavia was almost all intact, but Milosevic surrendered so as not to torment his citizens with the lack of basic life support.

                  I believe that Zelensky does not care about his population, otherwise he would have raised his hands after the first blows to the energy sector. Winter has already come. In the conditions of problems with heating, which are reported in the news, the Ukrainian healthcare system, already loaded with wounded Ukrainian soldiers, must additionally be loaded with sore throats, colds, bronchitis... Will it cope?
                  But it is true that this is primarily the withdrawal of the rear infrastructure from the system. I hope that after the energy sector they will switch to transport.
                  1. kartalovkolya
                    kartalovkolya 24 November 2022 07: 57
                    +1
                    You correctly noted about the rear, and our transport was left "for dessert"! He will be "finished off" before a decisive blow to this bandit gang.
                  2. Kurganets-45
                    Kurganets-45 24 November 2022 09: 39
                    +6
                    according to Clausewitz, the war is fought until irreparable damage is done to one side and further resistance will not make any sense until such damage is done to Ukraine. There is something to strive for.
                    1. Denis812
                      Denis812 24 November 2022 15: 57
                      +3
                      Not at all necessary.
                      Clausewitz talked about classic wars a la Napoleon vs Russia.
                      The United States fled from Afghanistan and Vietnam, although no irreparable damage was done to them there.
                      There are many other conditions under which the war can end without "irreplaceable damage".
                      For example, cutting out the entire top of power and the appearance of people at the top who will say something like: "Well, fuck him, let's make peace."
                      It's a pity that there are no "attacks on decision-making centers" :)
                  3. jdiver
                    jdiver 25 November 2022 00: 30
                    +2
                    I believe that Zelensky does not care about his population, otherwise he would have raised his hands after the first blows to the energy sector.

                    I don't think he cares. He is carrying out a plan to cleanse the Russian land of its indigenous population - Russians who have been indoctrinated with the suicidal idea that they are Ukrainians and should kill Russians. Accordingly, everything is going according to plan, but the plan has not yet been fulfilled. Not all locals have yet been ground before settling the land with new "correct" colonists
                2. Keer
                  Keer 24 November 2022 15: 03
                  +1
                  Yugoslavia was not under external control and did not have any material external support. Milosevic was not a US appointee, etc.
              3. Uprun
                Uprun 24 November 2022 08: 16
                -2
                Yes Yes. And the millionth army of the outskirts needs 1 million loaves of bread a day ... and 3 million cans of canned food, judging by the commentary, bread is baked in the trenches, and the stew is rolled right there. This is just one primitive example.
              4. single-n
                single-n 24 November 2022 15: 12
                +2
                This APU will create certain difficulties. They will have to either remove civilians, thereby losing cover, or spend a huge amount of fuel to save civilians. Along the way, this will overload the transport network. It is one thing to supply a rather small grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (there are about 500-700 thousand on a front of 1000 km), even during WWII such tasks were solved repeatedly. But supplying several tens of millions of civilians is a real problem. So the army will not stop it. And here is what the EU will do with the millionth flow of dependent refugees. These are not the refugees who swim to them from Africa. Young guys ready to work for food. This is a crowd of women and children who will need to be fed and provided for.
                The method to win is, of course, petty. Personally, as a person, this jars on me. But they could not by military means. So we can do that.
                1. Denis812
                  Denis812 24 November 2022 16: 01
                  +1
                  The main problem is, as you rightly said, the supply of civilians.
                  30 million to supply is not even a millionth army for you :)

                  And the method is not mean.
                  Weren't cities bombed during World War II? Yes, they wiped it to dust.
                  They didn’t do this only for the sake of destroying some enterprises there, but they quite deliberately beat the population.
                  This is quite a military way.
                  Because the times when two armies met in an open field, fortunately, have passed a long time ago. And then civilians were killed and robbed only in color.
                  1. single-n
                    single-n 24 November 2022 16: 15
                    +2
                    It's just that we started as liberators and pointedly did not touch the civilians. And because of this, they lost time and energy. And now stupidly destroy the country.
                    We do not then engage in nonsense with ostentatious pity. Do you remember these shots with the distribution of rations to the military? And inflict normal strikes on military targets and not arranging TV shows out of the siege of factories. Maybe you shouldn't have to do all that. Now, even those who were for us or neutral in March will hate us. And it's completely legal. And this hatred will last for decades. Here, tiny Chechnya was pacified for 20 years. And then 30 of these received at once. I don't even want to think how many people will now die in terrorist attacks.
                    1. Denis812
                      Denis812 24 November 2022 20: 26
                      +2
                      Yes, they made a mistake at first. The force of resistance was not calculated.
                      Although, for me, for example, as a person who, since 2011, has traveled to Ukraine every six months, or even once a quarter, everything was quite obvious.
                      Everything was leading up to that. The increase in hatred was on the rise.
                      If in 2013 I didn’t really hear Ukrainian in Kyiv, then in 2015 they even asked me in Ukrainian at the hotel.
                      And in 2017 I saw in the hotel where I stayed a hundred times a menu without the Russian language.
                      And in 2019, they already asked me at the customs, why am I going to Ukraine. First time.
                      Everything is generally clear. That was what was going on.

                      And yes, the hate will last. But then ... Look at the FRG and the GDR.
                      We can do it. It is a pity that this will probably not end with us.
                      1. militarist63
                        militarist63 24 November 2022 22: 40
                        0
                        And in 2019, they already asked me at the customs, why am I going to Ukraine. First time.
                        Everything is generally clear.
                        Well, to tell the truth, "what are you going to ..." they asked at border control posts a long time ago, somewhere else, in 2009 ... Moreover, such a question was asked by both Ukrainian border guards to incoming Russians, and so Russian border guards to Ukrainian citizens entering Russia. wink I'm surprised you haven't been asked this question before 2019! This is a standard question at passport control. Maybe just in 2019 you were especially meticulously asked? wink
                    2. jdiver
                      jdiver 25 November 2022 00: 33
                      -1
                      no show of pity there. that Kherson was also handed over out of ostentatious pity? To whom? To your army? To those Russians who were left there to die from Nazi punishers and to be mobilized in the Armed Forces of Ukraine? It's not about pity, but about rotten backstage agreements. That was the crux of the problem, and that's where it remains.
                2. Keer
                  Keer 24 November 2022 16: 24
                  +1
                  If our goal is to destabilize old Europe, then we are doing everything right, and the United States, it turns out, is our allies in this matter. Then the bridges on the Dnieper and the left bank are needed for the refugees to run across them. Thin.
                  1. single-n
                    single-n 24 November 2022 16: 36
                    +2
                    It's more of an all-against-all fight. The United States, together with the EU, are crushing us, Along the way, they are ripping off the EU's industry. The most striking example is Erdogan. He sends weapons with soldiers to Ukraine and at the same time cooperates with the Russian Federation. It also helps the United States in Syria, but preventing them from organizing a blockade of the Russian Federation.
                    And we do not touch the bridges, including because we cannot. The same shelling in Kherson showed that firing conventional (without nuclear weapons) missiles on a reinforced concrete bridge is not an easy task. And we cannot work with conventional bombs. Art is also missing.
                    1. Keer
                      Keer 24 November 2022 18: 12
                      +1
                      If it is impossible to destroy without the use of tactical nuclear weapons, then the answer is on the surface of what needs to be done. If they are not ready to do this, then either it was not worth starting, or the goals of the SVO are not the ones that were voiced.
              5. eskulap
                eskulap 25 November 2022 03: 06
                +1
                In fact, it’s enough to cut off the switch and shout that the rockets hit - an imitation of a humanitarian catastrophe - like in the west, heating is impossible, you can’t wash in the shower, and the gas storages are filled to capacity. In general, the goals of the NWO in the form of destroying the foundations of the old world order are being achieved, which both Medvedev and Peski
            3. DrMadfisher_2
              DrMadfisher_2 24 November 2022 04: 26
              +3
              Degasification is more difficult, they produce every Svidomo gas independently laughing
        2. Hermit
          Hermit 24 November 2022 00: 48
          +3
          Pratsyuvati, pratsyue - work, generates-practices can be described as generating energy,,, shutka
      2. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 24 November 2022 06: 02
        +1
        Generation!
        Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information--> Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment.
  2. Leshak
    Leshak 23 November 2022 21: 34
    +44
    Well, what ... It turned out fine. good Let the population try on 8 years of life in the Donbass.
    1. neworange88
      neworange88 23 November 2022 22: 02
      +13
      . According to the recently published data of the Ukrainian parliament, the number of residents of the independent region decreased from 24 million to 34,5 million by September compared to February 27. And this is official statistics. In reality, it may turn out to be another 2-3 million less.


      Arestovich urgently needs to contact the Ukrainian parliament, otherwise he still thinks that 40 million people live in Ukraine.
    2. avg
      avg 23 November 2022 23: 46
      +4
      Quote: Leshak
      Let the population try on 8 years of life in the Donbass.

      Crimeans also welcome educational measures. Again, they cool too hot heads. what
    3. zorch
      zorch 24 November 2022 08: 16
      +2
      As the classic said, war is the continuation of politics only by violent means. And the policy of the state is based on the economy. Therefore, according to the law of war, the economy of the country 404 will unfortunately be turned into trash.
  3. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 23 November 2022 21: 34
    -6
    Good news comes from Kupyansk, pig farm in ruins


    That's how the fascists were normally figured out fellow
    1. hwostatij
      hwostatij 23 November 2022 21: 45
      +7
      Soviet air defense missiles don't like fascists, yes
    2. Aag
      Aag 23 November 2022 23: 50
      +7
      Quote: Santa Fe
      Good news comes from Kupyansk, pig farm in ruins


      That's how the fascists were normally figured out fellow

      I don’t know why you were so fiercely downvoted ... It seems like most of the locals advocated the total destruction of the UK ... (I am against it!).
      What is happening, - if true, - glad ...
      At least some of our guys, men will save ...
      1. Coward
        Coward 24 November 2022 00: 16
        +6
        Duc local tsipsoshniki and minus in impotent rage.
        1. Bayun
          Bayun 25 November 2022 10: 50
          -2
          Duc from OUR POCKETS then they will steal money in order to rebuild all this devastation! That's why they downvoted, who understands ...
      2. bayard
        bayard 24 November 2022 01: 38
        +11
        Quote: AAG
        What is happening, - if true, - glad ...

        How can you rejoice in the destruction of residential buildings?
        In winter?
        If there were burnt enemy equipment or the corpses of their soldiers on these streets ... See the monument to a Russian soldier in Berlin's Treptow Park. And this is after everything that the German fascists did in the USSR, after the inhabitants (and children) of hundreds (if not thousands) of Russian (Belarusian, Ukrainian) villages and cities burned in houses and barns ... A person must remain in the war.
        Otherwise, you are not Russian.
        We have been seeing such pictures in the Donbass since 2014, only the Nazis did it here. In the photographs, I see hits in the residential sector and urban development in general. But where are those who were shot at ? Where are their corpses and burnt equipment? And if they are not, then why rejoice?
        If this is the result of the work of their air defense, then civilians can only sympathize.
        1. single-n
          single-n 24 November 2022 16: 39
          -1
          The worst thing is that now those who lived there will hate us. And this hatred will last for decades.
          1. jdiver
            jdiver 25 November 2022 00: 42
            +1
            so you are right. Maybe you will be a little reconciled with this idea that since 1991 hatred of Russia has been successfully brought up without bombings. And since 2014, she has not just been brought up, but burned out in the brain with no chance of rehabilitation. Those who tried to stay healthy and could, they left. Those who could not and managed to remain Russian in spirit will not hate them. Since it was clear to any Russian person in what kind of bloody bath this tango to the Salovyin MOV would end.
      3. YOUR
        YOUR 24 November 2022 03: 20
        -5
        Ukrainians really shoot down our missiles. Not as total as they write, but knocked down. In the photo, what happens when a downed rocket falls on a city. On the one hand, the calculation of the air defense system completed its task, the protected object was not hit by this missile, on the other hand, such things are.
        1. hwostatij
          hwostatij 24 November 2022 06: 17
          +4
          In the photo, what happens when a downed rocket falls on a city.

          The CR carries half a ton of explosives. If it falls on the city, a funnel 5 meters deep remains. Buildings would be blown to rubble. What is in the pictures is most likely the result of a hit by anti-aircraft missiles or a close fall of shahid mopeds.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 24 November 2022 06: 40
            -3
            Optional b / h detonates, in most cases it does not
    3. solar
      solar 24 November 2022 01: 21
      -6
      The top photo is the hospital. All Ukrainian sites for her and another photo of the maternity hospital destroyed today in Volnyansk, Zaporozhye region, are filled.
  4. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 23 November 2022 21: 35
    +10
    There will be no electricity in most of the territory of Ukraine during the day due to emergency shutdowns.

    This means that in a day it is necessary to repeat the blow ... it means that the costs of restoring the infrastructure must be made unbearable for the Nazi regime of Ukraine and the Russophobic regime of Sandu and the West.
    A war of attrition will show who has more resources to continue it.
    1. tabletkin73
      tabletkin73 23 November 2022 21: 42
      +18
      A day later, early. It is necessary to observe where they were able to restore and where the light burns more
    2. topol717
      topol717 23 November 2022 22: 19
      +7
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      A war of attrition will show who has more resources to continue it.

      There will be no such war. As soon as the United States "grounds" Europe and transfers some of the enterprises to itself, Zelensky will immediately sit down at the negotiating table. A long conflict is not beneficial to the United States They solved the first part of the problem, they got the right to sell their gas to the EU. now the second stage and that's it. For we need a normal Europe with a predictable market, and not the expansion of hungry Africa.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 23 November 2022 22: 23
        +7
        Your option is also possible, provided that Washington limits its appetite ... which I personally doubt.
        The battlefield for the United States is the entire planet Earth ... this is spelled out in its doctrine.
        So Europe is just an intermediate moment in the hegemony of the Anglo-Saxons.
        1. topol717
          topol717 23 November 2022 22: 37
          +4
          Barefoot and hungry Europe, the Americans definitely do not need it. For we need a sales market and a more or less strong partner in the fight against China. Still, of course, it would not be bad to divide this European Union into separate countries, but here I am not sure that the United States needs this, because in this way they can influence the necessary decisions through Poland and the Tribalts. The goal is to weaken and drag enterprises to itself, but in no case to finish off.
          1. grindz
            grindz 24 November 2022 04: 22
            +1
            And the United States is creating such a partner right now. This is a new block - AUKUS.
            Everything will be more or less there (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Britain (If it doesn’t fall apart)), and what will happen in Europe is no longer so important.
        2. Machito
          Machito 23 November 2022 23: 14
          +4
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Your option is also possible, provided that Washington limits its appetite ... which I personally doubt.
          The battlefield for the United States is the entire planet Earth ... this is spelled out in its doctrine.
          So Europe is just an intermediate moment in the hegemony of the Anglo-Saxons.

          The galactic clusters of Virgo and Laniokeya are in the zone of exclusive US interests. laughing lol wassat drinks Darth Biden (Bremen).
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 24 November 2022 03: 55
            +1
            Quote: Bearded
            The galactic clusters of Virgo and Laniokeya are in the zone of exclusive US interests.

            Crawl ... The US is already slowly claiming its rights to the moon. request
            Soon no one except them will have the right to parachute there.
      2. Anyuta Glorious
        Anyuta Glorious 24 November 2022 03: 21
        +2
        Then why did the United States "advise" Germany not to rush to transfer military production?
        1. topol717
          topol717 24 November 2022 19: 34
          0
          Quote: Anyuta Glorious
          Then why did the United States "advise" Germany not to rush to transfer military production?

          Who needs competitors? BASF and BMW need to be transferred, but they want to make elite weapons themselves.
  5. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 23 November 2022 21: 36
    +3
    Well, just like Gogol's - May day, name day of the heart.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 23 November 2022 22: 06
      +4
      A balm for the heart, the Sarmat strategic missile system has been put into mass production. But they don’t say when. drinkswhat month yesterday?
  6. TIR
    TIR 23 November 2022 21: 36
    +28
    The depot with diesel locomotives must also be destroyed. The depot of transport companies also needs to be knocked out. All their shopping malls now work for the Armed Forces of Ukraine
  7. skeptic
    skeptic 23 November 2022 21: 39
    +18
    There used to be an anecdote, with a beard, that it takes very little to destroy NATO - the entry of Ukraine into their ranks. They have not yet entered, but something seems to be true - the anecdote reflects the truth.
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 23 November 2022 22: 04
      +6
      anecdote reflects the truth.

      What truth

      9 months of war with them. The Armed Forces of Ukraine would become one of the most combat-ready armies in NATO

      All the smirks of propaganda over the "unfinished" ended up sideways to us
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 24 November 2022 04: 32
        +1
        Quote: Santa Fe
        All the smirks of propaganda over the "unfinished" ended up sideways to us

        The chivalry and miscalculations of the top political leadership of Russia and his desire to "fight" in white gloves turned out sideways .. As a result, in the ninth month they received a frankly shameful retreat from Kherson. I don’t mention this about the flight from Kupyansk.
  8. hwostatij
    hwostatij 23 November 2022 21: 42
    +11
    Curious, will they be able to restart the system tomorrow? On the one hand, there is a sharp drop in consumption due to the shutdown of the economy and the departure of the population, on the other hand, the equipment is bombed and shattered, with a problem with dispatching. It is a pity that there is no exact data on damage to substations. Personally, my couch forecast is that they will assemble the system the day after tomorrow by the evening, but this is the last time. She can't take another massive blow.
    1. Dron23
      Dron23 23 November 2022 22: 27
      +2
      Urgent meeting of the UN Security Council on Ukraine is scheduled for 00:00 Moscow time on November 24
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 23 November 2022 22: 55
        +4
        Quote: Dron23
        Urgent meeting of the UN Security Council on Ukraine is scheduled for 00:00 Moscow time on November 24

        Looks like Zelensky got sick ...
        Wangyu that he, breathing in coke, will begin to cry about bad Russia at a meeting of the UN Security Council and demand new sanctions against it ... and then the on-duty demands for the supply of Patriots and other delicious goodies for the Nazi regime in Kyiv will follow.
    2. Drotro
      Drotro 23 November 2022 22: 41
      +6
      I envy your optimism.
      But there people are stubborn utterly. They, I think, are ready to live even in caves by the fire and continue the war with hated Russia.
      1. stankow
        stankow 24 November 2022 01: 15
        +3
        1 out of XNUMX completed. But they will decrease ..............
        ........
        1. haron
          haron 24 November 2022 09: 14
          -1
          Quote: stankow
          1 out of XNUMX completed. But they will decrease ............

          One out of five (more precisely, 2 out of five) is already fighting or directly participating in the war. The other three survive.
          Sacramental question "Would you give up?" (With)
          These are not fried Hans, not cowardly Czechs, not gentle Frenchmen, these are ... you know who. And they "scratch their backs with a knife" and "they can make sweets from the city of Vna." Because they've been living like this for 30 years.
  9. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 23 November 2022 21: 42
    +8
    The Russian army is invincible. Ukraine is falling apart. Its economy and energy system are in a coma. Soon the Russian army will move forward again. The protracted war is playing into the hands of Russia.
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 23 November 2022 22: 18
      -14
      Quote from Carlos Sala
      The Russian army is invincible. Ukraine is falling apart. Its economy and energy system are in a coma. Soon the Russian army will move forward again. The protracted war is playing into the hands of Russia.

      As I understand it, you are writing this in a trench, hiding behind a cape, so that the sniper would not notice the light from the smartphone?
  10. Askold65
    Askold65 23 November 2022 21: 46
    +17
    “At the nuclear facilities themselves (unlike the Kyiv terrorists bombing the ZNPP), Russia did not fire a single shell - the suspension of the Rivne, South Ukrainian and Khmelnitsky nuclear power plants is associated with the destruction of the power grids. Stations can still generate electricity, but cannot deliver it to consumers.”
  11. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 23 November 2022 21: 49
    +6
    They panic and beat civilians in a futile attempt to stop Russian missiles.
  12. Roman RUS
    Roman RUS 23 November 2022 21: 50
    +14
    Real pigs (which are animals in a good sense of the word) are very smart. Good for training. It looks like non-humans from Khokhlostana are undeservedly associated with pigs, because. they don't understand anything at all. These European-oriented devils were warned that it would be worse if you didn't change your mind.
    It seems that only the complete destruction of the infrastructure and the inability to somehow live in this territory will force some ghouls to go to stinking Europe to beg and complain, and those who are less lucky will either surrender or rest in the land.
    It's a pity for people, but this is their choice, even if not always conscious. Everyone in this life is responsible for choosing their own path.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 23 November 2022 22: 44
      +5
      Quote: Roman RUS
      Real pigs (which are animals in a good sense of the word) are very smart. Good for training.
      You are not the first to notice this.
      Quote: Winston Churchill

      I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.
  13. Boniface
    Boniface 23 November 2022 21: 53
    +39


    7 years ago, the Nazis in Ukraine laughed straight at this puppet.
    And right now the couple are whining
    1. topol717
      topol717 23 November 2022 22: 24
      +14
      And they joked a lot about water in Crimea.
      As they say, the last one laughs well. But this also concerns us, there is no need to gloat, but it is necessary to point out.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 23 November 2022 22: 47
      +9
      Quote: Boniface


      But in fact, the content of this picture is as follows: Negros ah, pardon the politically incorrectness, African Americans steal coal at night.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 24 November 2022 01: 31
        +4
        Yes, at least let the Negroes remain Negroes, and not individuals of the middle gender .....
  14. Damir Shamaev
    Damir Shamaev 23 November 2022 21: 54
    0
    It would be necessary to have the same impact on energy. Next Destroy all bridges across the Dnieper. And the icing on the cake: destroy the Kyiv dam. Wait. And already in comfort to advance.
  15. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 23 November 2022 21: 54
    +2
    Air defense works well. It is a pity that there is no light and heat
  16. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 23 November 2022 21: 55
    +6
    NATO generals, what nonsense. It turns out that Europe needs 300 cruise and non-cruise missiles to hit the target, and it will be dark for us like in the anus of the US Secretary of Defense. So in Ukraine there is still an electrical system from the Cold War that can withstand a nuclear strike. And then it falls, an analysis from the anal is urgently needed take. Here the Russians know exactly how to fight NATO on our territory, it is practiced on the territory of Ukraine, this is not good.
  17. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 23 November 2022 21: 57
    +12
    Well, how! The main thing is not to stop. Dill should at least partially feel on their own skin what life was like in Donetsk.
  18. Nord11
    Nord11 23 November 2022 22: 00
    +22
    The message about the organization of points where the people of Kiev can look at a burning light bulb and see a working heater shed tears to tears. This is what is called humanism.
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 24 November 2022 01: 35
      +2
      Humanism in the modern sense is when a smartphone works, not a sewer ..... belay euro-cholopedics apparently just suck it up .....
  19. ASM
    ASM 23 November 2022 22: 00
    +5
    Well, how could it be otherwise, because the zelebobik wanted to raise the rates for pumping. I hope he will understand faster when the EU approaches him. There money is tied, which love the account. And no one can call the greenback.
  20. Vyacheslav Krylov
    Vyacheslav Krylov 23 November 2022 22: 01
    0
    How does Eurofascism feel? Does the hegemon of the world still regret the European project?
    Who was inattentive, he loses money (time).
  21. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 23 November 2022 22: 02
    -19
    Against the background of such news, only I am worried about how I will spend NG at the dacha near Moscow, if Ukraine still manages to produce and release its "shahid mopeds" with the declared parameters of 100 kg of explosives per 1000 km of flight in commercial quantities? am
    We have everything ready to repel a simultaneous attack of at least 10.000 of these "birds" at a depth even beyond Moscow ???
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 23 November 2022 22: 59
      +14
      Quote: Corona without virus
      shahid mopeds" with the declared parameters of 100 kg of explosives per 1000 km of flight?

      Well, you are bent ... smile
      if this was really possible in Russia, they would have done it long ago ... but in Ukraine, in the conditions of continuous attacks on the military-industrial complex of the independent, it is impossible to organize this production in the amount of 10 pieces.
      1. MBRSS
        MBRSS 24 November 2022 00: 25
        +6
        Lech from Android. It seems that they are going to build "joint ventures" in Poland. I think they will master 100-200 "mopeds" a week. The threat is real.
        And we also need to quickly rivet Lancets and Cubas, for pinpoint strikes on urban development.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 24 November 2022 03: 20
          0
          Quote: MBRBS
          Lech from Android. It seems that they are going to build "joint ventures" in Poland. I think they will master 100-200 "mopeds" a week. The threat is real.

          And this is serious ... what I agree.
          And here our VKS will not be able to influence the production process.
        2. Andy_nsk
          Andy_nsk 25 November 2022 14: 10
          0
          And we also need to quickly rivet Lancets and Cubas, for pinpoint strikes on urban development.

          Lancets and Cubes are not designed to hit urban areas. Their targets are armored vehicles, artillery, dugouts, etc.
          On urban development, you can use Gerani, but such a task is not set. Right now, I think, it is necessary to hit the diesel locomotive depots with Geraniums in order to create problems for the non-brothers with the transfer of military units and ammunition and finish off the energy with Geraniums and KR to zero!
          1. MBRSS
            MBRSS 25 November 2022 15: 05
            0
            Lancets and Cubes are not designed to hit urban areas.

            I meant strikes against armored vehicles and personnel, which will operate in buildings, where they will leave the fields.
  22. Rage66
    Rage66 23 November 2022 22: 03
    +8
    Russia plunged Moldova into darkness. We cannot trust a regime that leaves us without light and heat. Our only path must be towards the free world

    This path will be thorny and long soldier
  23. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 23 November 2022 22: 04
    +2
    Great news. This is encouraging in light of recent events. feel
  24. Eva Star
    Eva Star 23 November 2022 22: 08
    +5
    Better late than never. In fact, now the war has become similar to the siege of the castle. It’s definitely not worth going on the offensive now, it’s enough to keep the defense and continue to destroy the infrastructure. As soon as the collapse occurs, the population will merge Zelensky or, in the face of refugees, they will create hell in Europe. Victory on the battlefield is impossible when the enemy is dressed to the brim with NATO and gives money even to the budget. So you need to freeze the enemy with a siege. By the way, a friend wants to go to his, do not tell me where is the best place to get the necessary information?
    1. Drotro
      Drotro 23 November 2022 22: 47
      +3
      Here the friend himself decides what he likes. Go as a volunteer through Chechnya, or through your draft board. You can find a lot of advice on youtube. The bald captain can be seen giving advice.
      But this is a death game. Your friend should be ready for it, like a samurai. How many people have already died there. A lot of deaths from artillery shelling.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 23 November 2022 23: 02
      +1
      Quote from Eva Star
      Can you tell me where is the best place to find the information you need?

      Go to the nearest military enlistment office. There you and a friend will be explained professionally. They will even answer questions ... At the same time, they will go through the biography and relatives to the seventh knee ... bully
      AHA.
  25. VictorVictor
    VictorVictor 23 November 2022 22: 12
    +9
    Quote: TIR
    The depot with diesel locomotives must also be destroyed. The depot of transport companies also needs to be knocked out. All their shopping malls now work for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    Out of almost 1,9 thousand draft units at Ukrzaliznytsia, there are more than 1,5 thousand electric locomotives. And only about 300 locomotives. But the length of the tracks is 20 thousand kilometers. Secondly, how will the system of automatic switchover and traffic lights work without electricity? Recruit an army of switchmen, and switch to an archaic wand traffic control system? Which was canceled in the 60s?
    1. co-engineer
      co-engineer 23 November 2022 22: 51
      +2
      The overwhelming majority now are automatic arrows - they are also translated using electricity. Not sure if they can be translated manually.
      1. Sergey250455
        Sergey250455 24 November 2022 05: 13
        +2
        Can be converted manually. A special handle is inserted there. Ass in soap, but in a minute it is translated
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 23 November 2022 22: 57
      +4
      Quote: ViktorVictor
      But how will the system of automatic switchover and traffic lights work without electricity? Recruit an army of switchmen, and switch to an archaic wand traffic control system? Which was canceled in the 60s?

      Is there still a manual switch on the arrows? I don’t know how to / on, but in America you can’t see levers, only electric motors and mechanisms. And if the mechanism is worm, i.e. self-wedging, then the only option is to unscrew the mechanism and translate it with a crowbar.
    3. Ulan.1812
      Ulan.1812 23 November 2022 23: 03
      +7
      Quote: ViktorVictor
      Quote: TIR
      The depot with diesel locomotives must also be destroyed. The depot of transport companies also needs to be knocked out. All their shopping malls now work for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

      Out of almost 1,9 thousand draft units at Ukrzaliznytsia, there are more than 1,5 thousand electric locomotives. And only about 300 locomotives. But the length of the tracks is 20 thousand kilometers. Secondly, how will the system of automatic switchover and traffic lights work without electricity? Recruit an army of switchmen, and switch to an archaic wand traffic control system? Which was canceled in the 60s?

      CCB in the language of railroad workers.
      Alarm, Centralization, Communication.
      There are no manual arrows on highways for a long time. Only electric ones.
      Manual remained only on the access roads
      enterprises.
      Of course you can organize the movement. The end switches of the arrows can be translated with crowbars. But not for long.
      The trains must go one after another within sight. But this is such an ambush, there will be constant traffic jams and the average speed will drop below nowhere.
      In short, you need to beat. More often and harder.
      1. Mikhail Tynda
        Mikhail Tynda 24 November 2022 00: 15
        +10
        Alarm, Centralization and Blocking (SCB). If it is impossible to translate the arrow from the control panel (and even if due to a lack of power), the arrows are transferred with a kurbel (a small handle like a "crooked starter" is inserted into a special window on the electric switch drive and rotates in the right direction). In fact, the power supply system for signaling devices was duplicated three times: power supply from two different sources and a diesel generator. The external power supply will be lost - the DGA will automatically start. If everything is really bad, temporary turnout posts are organized, kurbels are distributed and slowly, but they will go. Instead of automatic blocking (in the absence of power supply from the longitudinal line), they switch to telephone means of communication, there is no communication, they switch to organizing the movement of trains through written notices. I repeat: slowly, but they will go.
    4. stankow
      stankow 24 November 2022 01: 20
      +1
      Emergency diesel generators. Only for dispatching and signaling. A dozen kilowatts is enough.
  26. rocket757
    rocket757 23 November 2022 22: 15
    +6
    Air defense works well. It is a pity that there is no light and heat
    . All this is sad ... how could it happen that the former fraternal, native peoples, pulled themselves up to the delight of foreign spiteful critics.
    1. Drotro
      Drotro 23 November 2022 22: 49
      +1
      They sow hatred. And then you can't get rid of it. Of course it is very sad to see all this.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 November 2022 23: 36
        +4
        Hatred is not forever, and not everyone takes root, so Schaub deeply.
        Of course, with the proper skill, it is possible to turn off the brains, but after all, with the proper approach, it is also possible to return many of them to their place ...
        In general, how it will go on, no one will say now ... let's hope that they are trying to make everything go as it should ... we all need it!
    2. Ulan.1812
      Ulan.1812 23 November 2022 23: 12
      +11
      Quote: rocket757
      Air defense works well. It is a pity that there is no light and heat
      . All this is sad ... how could it happen that the former fraternal, native peoples, pulled themselves up to the delight of foreign spiteful critics.

      How did it happen? And you remember the song of the Fox Alice, how they spud.
      You don't need a knife for a fool, you can lie to him from three boxes and do whatever you want with him.
      And then about the greedy man, about the braggart.
      You are so beautiful, you are so smart, you will be rich and happy in a family of civilized peoples and only wild maskal orcs interfere with all this.
      But you are our brothers and we will help you... the whole world.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 November 2022 23: 39
        +3
        "sobering up" will be at least tough!
        It just so happens that there is no other way.
        1. Ulan.1812
          Ulan.1812 23 November 2022 23: 46
          +4
          Quote: rocket757
          "sobering up" will be at least tough!
          It just so happens that there is no other way.

          It must be cruel, otherwise they will not understand anything. Very stubborn.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 24 November 2022 13: 34
            +1
            A donkey runs after a carrot... what else can you see and learn there?
    3. stankow
      stankow 24 November 2022 01: 22
      +3
      Zto Europe is to blame for everything! And pay!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 November 2022 13: 36
        +1
        There, of course, there are more guilty ones than one geyrop ... so everyone is already raking out from the heap that they have raked up.
        The product is spesfissky, the very thing that they deserve.
    4. Revolver
      Revolver 24 November 2022 02: 01
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      how could it happen that the former fraternal, native peoples, pulled up to the delight of foreign spiteful critics.

      Belavezha agreements. And when the Ukrainians chose the Petliura-Bandera Zhovtoblakitny ensign and the trident from all the possible variants of the state symbols, it became clear that sooner or later there would be a war.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 November 2022 13: 38
        +1
        A complex topic, without an excursion into history, it will not work out ...
        Although, now there are so many new things that the new story overshadows the old one.
        Alas, there is no easy, simple solution ... everything will be tough.
        1. Ulan.1812
          Ulan.1812 24 November 2022 14: 26
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          A complex topic, without an excursion into history, it will not work out ...
          Although, now there are so many new things that the new story overshadows the old one.
          Alas, there is no easy, simple solution ... everything will be tough.

          Yes, the seeds of what is happening have long been sown. Now we are reaping the rewards.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 24 November 2022 14: 28
            +1
            Well, yes, it didn’t just start yesterday ... although not all the berries are ripe yet and it’s very dangerous to let the rest of the fruits ripen !!!
            The problem needs to be addressed now.
    5. dauria
      dauria 24 November 2022 04: 44
      +2
      how could this happen

      The national bourgeoisie were first given markets and lands to "feed", and then they decided to take it? Figushki. Now only with a whip to drive into a common stall. Look, at least try the Armenians, who have nowhere to go under the rule of Moscow to bend. And it's not worth talking about the rest from Baku to the Kazakhs.
      Forget the brotherhood. When they need it, the men of two neighboring districts will be set against each other to death.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 November 2022 13: 41
        0
        Quote: dauria
        When they need it, the men of two neighboring regions will be set to death against each other.

        Absolutely yeah!!!
        Bars "amuse themselves, and the peasants crack their forelocks" !!!
        Unfortunately, one can not do with forelocks ...
        These are the bloody games played by the modern elitka ... although, nothing new, it was the same before.
  27. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 23 November 2022 22: 19
    +5
    Quote: Santa Fe
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine would become one of the most combat-ready armies in NATO

    belay So it is as part of NATO ... more like a battering ram of NATO.
    NATO does not feel sorry for the Ukrainian natives, the more they are killed in a fight with Russia, the better for Biden, Borrell, Sunaki, and for this purpose it is not a pity to pump up the army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with weapons.
    It was NATO's military support for the Nazi regime in Ukraine that dragged out the conflict and Russia was not ready for such a scenario.
    Now we will inevitably have to rebuild the country on a war footing, another option is fraught with 1917 for the Kremlin.
  28. 2я19
    2я19 23 November 2022 22: 19
    +10
    Everything is good, one thing is bad - xxxls still have air defense. To learn how to knock out radars to the noise of kr in order to uncover cast iron, at least from high altitudes ...
  29. Mikhail Sidorov
    Mikhail Sidorov 23 November 2022 22: 20
    +5
    in Ukraine, there was a large-scale drop in generation, breaking all previous records.

    The latest news is the best. Now you can safely go to sleep. good
  30. topol717
    topol717 23 November 2022 22: 22
    +3
    AZ on reactors is a tin. If the fuel is already running out, then you can not start it. For a chain reaction in partially spent fuel may not start. Although I can be wrong, and experts can probably correct me.
    1. ProkletyiPirat
      ProkletyiPirat 23 November 2022 22: 54
      +4
      here, most likely, it means circuit breakers at the substation near the nuclear power plant, and not at the reactor itself and its electric generator.
      1. stankow
        stankow 24 November 2022 01: 24
        +2
        But if the generation stops, then the reactors are switched to the minimum.
    2. vadimtt
      vadimtt 24 November 2022 11: 31
      0
      Everything there will start on tired fuel. At first, of course, it will sit in the pit, and after a couple, a maximum of 3 days, when the zone is "ventilated", you can let it go slowly.

      PS: Launching is a rather energy-intensive event. For starters, spin up two or three MCPs of 5 MW each and heat the water (by the same MCPs, by the way). Instrumentation and lighting against this background of a penny laughing On backup generators, this is not done, by the way, only from the external network.
  31. Konstantin Noskov
    Konstantin Noskov 23 November 2022 22: 34
    +5
    let's turn pig-mazepia into harmony with nature, cold in winter, hot in summer, dark at night, and always wet panties from fear.
  32. Fangaro
    Fangaro 23 November 2022 22: 38
    +4
    Quote: seregatara1969
    Am I the only one reading this? The generator generates energy! What device generates the generation?
    Not bad, the pilots of our long-range aviation are gaining combat experience. Sailors launch our missiles like logs at all addresses. The Germans are already complaining about the lack of weapons in Germany!


    Yes, the generator generates. Otherwise they would have come up with a different name.
    What helps the generator? Depends on the individual application.
    You can mount a motor from an old, still Soviet, washing machine on a bicycle frame, from the rear, leading wheel, make a transfer to the generator. And there will be not an ideal, but a working source of electricity. Yes, there you will need to look for circuits a little, buy different parts, solder them at least by hinged mounting ... But the generator will generate.
    Is it worth it to bother so much in 2022? This question is better asked by those who in 2014 and 2015 were sure that the best was yet to come.
  33. VictorVictor
    VictorVictor 23 November 2022 22: 44
    +6
    Quote: rocket757
    Air defense works well. It is a pity that there is no light and heat
    . All this is sad ... how could it happen that the former fraternal, native peoples, pulled themselves up to the delight of foreign spiteful critics.

    Dig up history. Pressed for hundreds of years from all sides, the Ukrainians have become genetic traitors and corrupt even worse than the Poles. Bogdan Khmelnitsky was on his knees for five years, begging for the patronage of Rus'. Before him, there were similar attempts, which the Russians refused. Our kings knew the value of these creatures. So what? Already the son of Bogdan started a war against Russia. What about different hetmans who want to get a Polish mace stronger than the Russian union? Sagaidachny, and dozens of others? In vain, did Catherine disperse the Zaporozhian Sich? And what about Mazepa? And what about more modern- forced Ukrainization in the era of the Austro-Hungarian dependence of the Westerners? Look here. http://svoboda-news.com/svwp/pdfarchiv/ And in THIS THIS IS WHAT ??? Crazy Ukrainianophile dream of 1905

    In Rozanov Golos Malorossa about not a few Russians 1914 I A Sikorsky report in Kyiv Russians and Ukrainians.

    Shulgin protest: Against the forced Ukrainization of Southern Rus' in 1917

    Andrey Medvedev » The true history of the Russian and Ukrainian people » online reading - page 9

    Philip Svistun, "What is that - Ukrainophilism? (His history and current characteristics)
  34. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 23 November 2022 22: 46
    +7
    They (404) initially transferred their air defense from the target to the ambush mode on our aircraft .... And then it turned out that industrial objects are defenseless .... and protection from CD is difficult for everyone (and for us too). Plus the difficulty with the 24/7 work of RTR and surveillance radars ... AWACS from neutral regions see well, but not all.
  35. VictorVictor
    VictorVictor 23 November 2022 22: 57
    +3
    Quote: Soving engineer
    The overwhelming majority now are automatic arrows - they are also translated using electricity. Not sure if they can be translated manually.

    There is an option to scroll the arrows manually. It's not about that. Arrows are located not only near railway stations. There are many, many of them on the run. There you need to have time to run ahead of the locomotive. Turnout booths for almost 100 years, how is it gone? There was an old man on duty who... Where will he sit now? To build all this structure in a short time? And who will do it and for what money? Move arrow? And who will bring the team to that old fart? Where is the connection?
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 23 November 2022 23: 06
      +1
      There are also traction substations, there is a depot, there are diesel locomotives ... ..
  36. Sergei N 58912062
    Sergei N 58912062 23 November 2022 22: 57
    +4
    It is necessary to bomb Hohlandia into the Stone Age, so that there is no water, no light, no gas!

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      1. Kriso Sborshik
        Kriso Sborshik 24 November 2022 13: 09
        0
        It turns out that the Ukrainians in 2014 denazified the Crimea and Donbass? logical
  37. Augustine
    Augustine 23 November 2022 22: 58
    -2
    to power enterprises (factories, large farms, elevators and other mechanized facilities), thanks to which the Ukrainian economy was still afloat

    What farms, what factories? The author wants to pull an owl on a globe. Ukraine has long been living at the expense of the West, the economy almost did not work. So while the West supports, and it will support, Russia has very few chances to win. they have more resources and opportunities than Russia will have.
    Further outflow of the population will lead to the loss of the mobilization resource and the disorganization of the rear infrastructure of the Ukrainian army

    Author wow! Do you live in an alternate world? The outflow of the population is not possible! Only women are allowed to leave, men are not allowed to leave!
    Conclusion. Ukraine is full of mobilization resources and Western assistance. The hegemon is vitally interested in the collapse of Russia and does everything for this and successfully forces others to do the same. Enough to bring the news to a positive direction after such a mediocre operation and retreats. Only criticism and dunking of the ruling mugs in the shit will help shake things up so that Russia can not only win the war, but also transform itself!
  38. VictorVictor
    VictorVictor 23 November 2022 23: 01
    +3
    Quote: Nagan
    Quote: ViktorVictor
    But how will the system of automatic switchover and traffic lights work without electricity? Recruit an army of switchmen, and switch to an archaic wand traffic control system? Which was canceled in the 60s?

    Is there still a manual switch on the arrows? I don’t know how to / on, but in America you can’t see levers, only electric motors and mechanisms. And if the mechanism is worm, i.e. self-wedging, then the only option is to unscrew the mechanism and translate it with a crowbar.

    Who said that the worm gear cannot spin forward and backward? The motor is spinning. Think again if you didn't succeed the first time. Here is the drive to the motor, at the primary stage, a crooked starter is picked up. And spin through the motor until you sweat. And you can't use a crowbar. If health allows, everything can be broken.
  39. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 23 November 2022 23: 04
    +5
    404s did exactly the same thing for 8 years - they beat and Butt in the energy sector of the LDNR and now in Zaporozhye. Now the situation on their side has become darker and colder. I am also surprised by the presence of fuel in 404. They drive on video and cars and the offensive does not stop, and what kind of Norwegian tankers come to Odessa? Why so much fuel?
  40. Stepan S
    Stepan S 23 November 2022 23: 09
    +5
    Further outflow of the population will lead to the loss of the mobilization resource

    How will this happen, in the opinion of the author of the article, if travel outside the country is closed to those liable for military service?
  41. MBRSS
    MBRSS 23 November 2022 23: 10
    +8
    Poroshenko's prediction "we will take the children to school, and they will sit in the basements" may soon come true, but vice versa.
  42. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 23 November 2022 23: 22
    0
    Quote: Augustine
    Only criticism and dunking of the ruling muzzles in shit will help to shake things up so that Russia can not only win the war, but also transform itself!

    What do you mean ... smilesay seditious things ... who wants to sit in the toilet upstairs.
  43. Boniface
    Boniface 24 November 2022 00: 16
    +2
    Here are the crooks!

    Partial Restoration of electricity supply Ukroreikh occurred due to replenishment from Poland and Romania.
    Therefore, Lviv and western Ukraine managed to provide 90% of electricity.
    But if Russia continues to strike, then such a scheme will not be able to work for a long time.
  44. Keer
    Keer 24 November 2022 01: 08
    +1
    It's all wonderful. And what about the Ukrainian bridges and tunnels, through which the Armed Forces of Ukraine are freely supplied, which kills our soldiers? Has the record been broken there too?
    1. FoBoss_VM
      FoBoss_VM 24 November 2022 01: 26
      0
      This is different. They said you can't touch it because it's business
  45. Egor53
    Egor53 24 November 2022 01: 29
    +1
    In Ukraine, not only power plants should be cut down, and EVERYTHING. We also need to destroy the railroad. And no negotiations.
  46. VictorVictor
    VictorVictor 24 November 2022 06: 01
    +2
    Quote: Ulan.1812
    Quote: ViktorVictor
    Quote: TIR
    The depot with diesel locomotives must also be destroyed. The depot of transport companies also needs to be knocked out. All their shopping malls now work for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    Out of almost 1,9 thousand draft units at Ukrzaliznytsia, there are more than 1,5 thousand electric locomotives. And only about 300 locomotives. But the length of the tracks is 20 thousand kilometers. Secondly, how will the system of automatic switchover and traffic lights work without electricity? Recruit an army of switchmen, and switch to an archaic wand traffic control system? Which was canceled in the 60s?

    CCB in the language of railroad workers.
    Alarm, Centralization, Communication.
    There are no manual arrows on highways for a long time. Only electric ones.
    Manual remained only on the access roads
    enterprises.
    Of course you can organize the movement. The end switches of the arrows can be translated with crowbars. But not for long.
    The trains must go one after another within sight. But this is such an ambush, there will be constant traffic jams and the average speed will drop below nowhere.
    In short, you need to beat. More often and harder.

    I know. They told me in educational program. But I avoid using special terminology in such resources. After all, I write for others, not for myself. One by one. This is how to collect them in one place and synchronously, on the go-ahead to let through N-minutes one after another? You thought badly. Further. An electric locomotive, a mainline one, pulls cargo many times more than a diesel locomotive. Pull short trains. This complicates things many times over. Electric locomotives in a team are controlled synchronously, but diesel locomotives are not. Wheel slip further reduces the load capacity. Next, did you compare the smoothness of the start of a diesel locomotive and an electric locomotive? More losses.
  47. Kelwin
    Kelwin 24 November 2022 06: 01
    0
    Well, no, some separate sections can be supported by generators, but in general, this is fantastic. It's not even about the cost, but stupidly about the lack of normal control of these capacities, no synchronization, no balancing, and finally nothing, this is nonsense, even if all the generators are brought from all over Europe.
  48. VictorVictor
    VictorVictor 24 November 2022 06: 07
    0
    Quote: Boniface
    Here are the crooks!

    Partial Restoration of electricity supply Ukroreikh occurred due to replenishment from Poland and Romania.
    Therefore, Lviv and western Ukraine managed to provide 90% of electricity.
    But if Russia continues to strike, then such a scheme will not be able to work for a long time.

    Yes. Although Poland is nearby, the current will not go through a power substation broken into smoke. They write, generators will be sent by the thousands. This means tearing the entire power supply system to pieces, and making heaps of local sections. Through converter transformers, the generated voltage, even a thousand-kilowatt, diesel will not work. There are different voltage levels. Yes, and synchronization of frequencies and phases is not a simple matter. Okay, such thermal power plants, nuclear power plants, Hydro, a dozen, another. But what if there are a lot of generators? Lots of?
    1. the same doctor
      the same doctor 25 November 2022 08: 29
      0
      Just synchronization is the simplest thing. It is supported automatically and even without electronics: jumped forward in phase - the load increased, the speed decreased. Left behind - you are dragged forward by the current from the network. The initial synchronization can be done both manually and entrusted to simple electronics.
  49. VictorVictor
    VictorVictor 24 November 2022 06: 12
    +2
    Quote: Zaurbek
    There are also traction substations, there is a depot, there are diesel locomotives ... ..

    Are you not lost? Traction substations do not generate current, but convert it to what is needed for electric locomotives. There are different voltage systems in different areas. But, if there is no current at the input, where will it appear at the output?
  50. VictorVictor
    VictorVictor 24 November 2022 06: 16
    0
    Quote: stankow
    Emergency diesel generators. Only for dispatching and signaling. A dozen kilowatts is enough.

    And how will you tear the whole system, leaving only the section that this generator can handle? Vumnik? And what about at the junctions? Let the trains fall, is it not my boss who answers there? And tell me, where are these generators lying around, waiting to be remembered?