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Cuban President in Kremlin: Cuba and Russia have a common enemy - the Yankee empire

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Cuban President in Kremlin: Cuba and Russia have a common enemy - the Yankee empire

Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel Bermudez arrived in Russia today on an official visit. He has already held talks with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin. Together they took part in the opening ceremony of the monument to Fidel Castro. The servicemen of the guard of honor company were involved in the ceremony.


Vladimir Putin, welcoming the Cuban President in the Kremlin, called him a respected comrade and touched upon the development of bilateral Russian-Cuban relations.

According to the President of Russia, an extensive plan of cooperation between governments has been created and approved with implementation until 2030.

Vladimir Putin:

You know that the Soviet Union and Russia have always supported and continue to support the Cuban people in their struggle for independence and sovereignty. We have always opposed various kinds of restrictions, embargoes, blockades and so on. We have always supported Cuba on international platforms. And we see that Cuba takes the same position towards Russia.

Vladimir Putin recalled his personal meetings with Fidel Castro, calling him an outstanding person and political figure.

Miguel Diaz-Canel conveyed greetings from Raul Castro and noted that in recent years, Cuban-Russian ties have deepened in various sectors. At the same time, the President of Cuba used a particularly harsh rhetoric against the United States, which, as the head of the Cuban state noted, is doing everything to prevent the development of countries that do not want to live in the paradigm of their interests.

Diaz-Canel:

For us, this visit has a profound meaning. We conduct it when both countries - both Russia and Cuba - are subject to unfair unilateral sanctions and have a common enemy, a common source is the Yankee empire, which manipulates a large part of humanity.

The head of Cuba recalled that Liberty Island has been living under unprecedented American pressure for 6 decades. Diaz-Canel noted that the United States always and everywhere acts from a position of strength and exclusively of its own interests, without regard for the interests of other states.

Cuban President:

You have repeatedly spoken about the expansion of NATO to the East, that this approach to the borders of Russia is unacceptable. They (the US and NATO) use extraterritorial conflicts to present themselves as the arbiters of the fate of the world.

Miguel Diaz-Canel noted that both the USSR and modern Russia act from anti-colonial positions, which leads to anger on the part of the United States.

These statements and the very visit of Diaz-Canel to Moscow provoke discussion in the West. Whenever it comes to talks between the leaders of Russia and Cuba, the West begins to recall the Cuban Missile Crisis with the hypothesis that "is Cuba going to give Russia a place for a military base."
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  1. K._2
    K._2 22 November 2022 20: 20
    +1
    If Vovan places missiles there, he will do well and will be rehabilitated for the shame of recent months, and the Yankees will piss boiling water, and the rank and file as well. It would be a knife in the Yankee's back, checkmate, spit in the face.
    1. Cat Alexandrovich
      Cat Alexandrovich 22 November 2022 20: 25
      +13
      So the note does not say that the Cubans are offering to host missiles ...
      1. zloybond
        zloybond 22 November 2022 20: 42
        +12
        The Cubans said directly without twisting their tail: the enemy of the Yankees! Ours again bustle, trade, help the United States with goods ....
        1. ramzay21
          ramzay21 22 November 2022 22: 22
          +3
          Putin once personally, at the request of American friends, went to close our bases in Cuba. Then he tried to open them, but no one wants to get involved with such shifters as our guarantor, because the Cubans told him no
        2. Machito
          Machito 22 November 2022 22: 27
          +7
          Let's drink to Fidel Castro. drinks drinks drinks As if alive.
        3. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 23 November 2022 00: 37
          +8
          All Yankees must die, otherwise Russia is a khan. There is no place for mercy or pity. Either they or we. Especially since they announced it themselves. am
          1. Plate
            Plate 23 November 2022 09: 43
            -3
            Quote: Misha Honest
            All Yankees must die, otherwise Russia is a khan.

            Since when can the survival of Russia be ensured only by the genocide of one of the largest nations on the planet?
            Quote: Misha Honest
            There is no place for mercy or pity.

            It seems that there should be no place for Nazism here either.
            I understand that you probably didn’t mean anything like that, but still it’s better to be careful, otherwise some may seriously agree with you.
        4. Alexander Antonov_2
          Alexander Antonov_2 23 November 2022 13: 11
          -1
          Yes, and Cuba is not the same now, LGBT is thriving, they have Fidel, like Lenin has the Communist Party.
          The rights of LGBT people in Cuba have been protected since 2022, same-sex marriages and partnerships are registered, same-sex relationships are officially allowed from the age of 16
      2. Michael67
        Michael67 22 November 2022 23: 31
        0
        El pueblo unido, jamás será vencido!
        https://youtu.be/-Swby6ydkMg
    2. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 22 November 2022 20: 25
      +4
      It is unlikely that Cuba will agree to deploy Russian missiles on its territory. Especially after the "grain deal" resumes after Erdogan's call. If quite recently, to resolve issues, Erdogan ran, got on a plane and flew to resolve issues, now it is enough for him to make just one call and everything is spinning in the direction he needs.
      1. neworange88
        neworange88 22 November 2022 20: 29
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir M
        It is unlikely that Cuba will agree to deploy Russian missiles on its territory.


        Well, maybe she will take care of the defense of her coast and ask for a DBK for this, for example, with anti-ship missiles / GKR Zircon.
        1. Vladimir M
          Vladimir M 22 November 2022 20: 34
          0
          Cuba will not take such risks, in connection with recent events, the authority of the Russian state is falling.
          1. bayard
            bayard 22 November 2022 22: 18
            +2
            Quote: Vladimir M
            Cuba will not take such risks, in connection with recent events, the authority of the Russian state is falling.

            And what does the very fact of such a visit mean against the background of what is happening, have you ever thought about it? And such words (about a common enemy)?
            Of course, one can guess and assume, one can nod at the oddities of the NMD and the unpreparedness of the Russian Federation for a non-nuclear land war of such a level of intensity, but the fact of a threat to the very existence of our state is obvious. And Cuba has been under sanctions for 60 years. And under the United States did not lie down, although under their very side.
            Is there any possibility of such cooperation between Russia and Cuba?
            Of course.
            What will Cuba get from this?
            As before - as rent for the return of the RF Armed Forces to their bases, there will be deliveries of weapons for the rearmament of the Cuban army, new trade agreements. Perhaps they will also remember plans to build a nuclear power plant there (in the early 00s, talk about this was quite serious).
            What can be placed there?
            Air defense systems are first and foremost.
            DBK - definitely, this is the coastal defense of a sovereign state and our military bases.
            RTR Center in Lourdes.
            And already in the second place (after ensuring combat stability and situational awareness) the deployment of Iskanders (at least Florida will be covered by part of the other coast. Especially if an IRBM with a range of about 2000 km And of course the aviation component, including the MiG-31 with the "Dagger".
            We have nowhere to aggravate the situation and so on, but our diplomats and military will have sharply more arguments.
            And yes - the Zircon GZUR may well be part of the Bastion-C DBK. Not only that, they have to be there.
            And as for the "indecisiveness" of the Kremlin towers ... when such a weighty argument appears right at the very side of the United States - the same "Hedgehog in Pants", which Khrushchev so juicyly expressed in his time, ... such an argument can be made by the voice of the right towers where as harder and bass. Such a trump card in the deck always makes the owner an alpha male. The question is whether they will.
            1. Chem1st
              Chem1st 22 November 2022 23: 27
              -6
              Will you decide? Who? No, we don't have any...
              1. bayard
                bayard 23 November 2022 03: 16
                +5
                Quote from Chem1st
                Will you decide? Who? No, we don't have any...

                Well, if you don't have it, maybe we can find it.
                1. lelik613
                  lelik613 23 November 2022 05: 10
                  -5
                  maybe we can find
                  If only in China, buy on Aliexpress.
            2. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke 23 November 2022 00: 04
              +3
              Quote: bayard
              And about the "indecisiveness" of the Kremlin towers ... when such a weighty argument appears right at the very side of the United States - the same "Hedgehog in Pants", about which Khrushchev once so juicyly expressed himself,.

              Khrushchev could put it that way, he could ride with Fidel in an open car in any city in the USSR.
              Compare yourself.
              Not Cuba handed over Russia. Russia Cuba. Including the refusal to purchase sugar and cigarettes.
              It is economic interaction that needs to be restored in the first place, and not shove hedgehogs down other people's pants. hi
              1. bayard
                bayard 23 November 2022 04: 02
                +6
                Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                Khrushchev could put it that way, he could ride with Fidel in an open car in any city in the USSR.

                And Leonid Ilyich could. It was a completely different country. . . And in the Kremlin only Galoshes are remembered.
                Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                Not Cuba handed over Russia. Russia Cuba. Including the refusal to purchase sugar and cigarettes.

                I knew the person who organized these deliveries of raw sugar from Cuba from the very beginning, under his leadership the entire sugar industry was reorganized for this export.
                And cigarettes ... it was some kind of "thermonuclear" ... one "Monte Cristo" was worth what ... but how much and WHAT cigars were in every Soviet store.
                Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                It is economic interaction that needs to be restored in the first place, and not shove hedgehogs down other people's pants.

                Uh No. You argue apolitically Alexander ... apolitically.
                It's military time in the yard, here every ally is dear. Do we have those? In addition to Belarus and Iran? Well, maybe even Venezuela and Nicaragua ... But NOBODY compares to Cuba in terms of convenience and opportunities to put a hedgehog in Biden's pants and the United States of America. Painfully trump place. And for reconnaissance, and for the advanced deployment of nuclear first strike forces, and for military airfields (both jump and permanent deployment). Just imagine that in addition to the "Zircons", "Iskanders" and "Daggers" on the MiG-31K, as well as the MRBM (which should appear soon), they will be deployed there ... let's say one or two MRA regiments on the Su-34M \\ M2 smile . And of course, a couple of regiments of cover fighters on the Su-35S or even the Su-57 (but this is in the future). Along the east coast of the United States, our RTR and PLO aircraft will patrol, opening the exit to the sea of ​​each US surface and submarine ship smile , and our specialists in Lourdes will control not only all cellular communications in general, but in general the entire radio traffic of most of the United States.
                And in the Caribbean Sea, our surface ships will be on duty on an ongoing basis ... and submarine missile carriers with missile launchers and Zircons on board ... And even diesel-electric submarines.
                And the missile defense, early warning and anti-aircraft missile systems deployed in Cuba will make it possible to track any launches, even test ones, along the US West Coast (ZGRLS), and open up a mass launch of ICBMs and SLBMs almost from the first seconds ... And if you place missile defense systems there bully , at least the S-500, or even more so the Nudol, then beat them on takeoff.
                And the most amazing thing is that they will feel this hedgehog in their pants with their testicles online ... just like we are expanding NATO to the east.
                Or do you not care that next year a US Air Force division is returning to Europe, which was previously based in Germany (FRG) and was armed with the Pershing-2 IRBM. And now it will have an equally ranged IRBM with a hypersonic gliding unit. And the appearance of "Axes" on land launchers is also very likely. Are we going back to the 80s?
                Sounds like yes.
                So let this return be even "more fun" for the USA in the early 60s with missiles in the Caribbean. After all, we can do this completely, in full, albeit in stages.
                And if such a glorious deed starts, then trade, business interests, investments, and the construction of a nuclear power plant in Cuba (their old dream) - everything will be cheerful, fun, with songs. And how many Russian tourists will flock to the best beaches in the world, to sea fishing, to improve their health in the sanatoriums of Cuba. wink Why take your money to Turkey and Egypt when you can relax on the beaches even better than in Florida? And let the Americans envy from their shore how yachts with Russian vacationers scurry about near their territorial waters.
                How else ?
                To respond with a threat to a threat, by deed, not by word, is the surest way to return the inadequate to feelings. And let the Cubans cheer up - their status as a state both in the region and in the world will skyrocket to the level ... lol (sorry for the comparison) of today's Ukraine yes And even much more, because Cuba has something to be proud of and something to threaten (when it is there) to its eternal enemy and tormentor.
                Can you imagine how much Cuba can have consistently all year round on tourism and spa services alone? Yes, no less than the same Turkey.
                More distance?
                Yes, remove excises from the cost of aviation fuel for these flights! And the people will fall. yes And in general - it is necessary to pull up Latin America, expand cooperation, trade, business, investments.
                But first - ROCKETS in Cuba! soldier
                And everything else will follow. bully
                hi
                1. K._2
                  K._2 23 November 2022 08: 30
                  -1
                  I support your every word, you yourself know who they are, but our comprador elite is too strong, which has long sold not only its soul to the devil, but everything and everyone around.
                2. DymOk_v_dYmke
                  DymOk_v_dYmke 23 November 2022 10: 55
                  0
                  hi
                  Quote: bayard
                  And cigarettes ... it was some kind of "thermonuclear" ... one "Monte Cristo" was worth what ... but how much and WHAT cigars were in every Soviet store.

                  Before Cuba was boarded, he smoked "ligeros".
                  When I flew to Baikal in the summer, I took a block for a week. The first two seasons were enough. The men tried, but they could not smoke, and there was some kind of indecency in the store of the nearest village. It wasn't enough for the third season, - it turns out I taught it.
                  Now they are not even in the specialized St. Petersburg store "Havana".

                  Quote: bayard
                  Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                  It is economic interaction that needs to be restored in the first place, and not shove hedgehogs down other people's pants.

                  Uh No. You talk apolitically Alexander ... appolitino

                  I'm just not looking at the moment.
                  The Cuban Missile Crisis had two sides:
                  1. The US has deployed missiles in Pakistan.
                  2. USSR - in Cuba.
                  Both were done secretly and it was difficult to track.
                  When it opened, - oppa, and a crisis. resolved exchange: the removal of both of them (many believe that there was a one-sided retreat of the USSR).
                  Now the situation is different. Tracking capabilities to a dope and wiggling "hedgehog" will be detected at an early stage. The striped ones will try to strangle the hedgehog at the stage of conception and little will interfere with them. To begin means to substitute Cuba.
                  Therefore, I believe that a military alliance should first be concluded with the clause ~ "an attack on one of the countries is recognized as an attack on the union and will cause a joint response." After that, Cuba will be "covered" (if it believes the country that has already flown it once) and it will already be possible to put bases and missiles in opposition to NATO ones in Europe. hi
                  1. bayard
                    bayard 23 November 2022 17: 03
                    0
                    Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                    1. The US has deployed missiles in Pakistan.

                    in England and Turkey.
                    And there were also aircraft - carriers of nuclear weapons in Europe. And the USSR did not have air bases with such a flight time.

                    Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                    2. USSR - in Cuba.

                    But after the deployment of our forces in Cuba, we got there not only missiles, but also bombers with nuclear weapons, interceptor fighters (MiG-21), cruise missiles with nuclear warheads, naval nuclear land mines, and the possibility of basing our submarines.
                    Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                    Both were done secretly and it was difficult to track.

                    The United States deployed its missiles in England and Turkey on the basis of bilateral agreements. Russia and Cuba also had such an agreement, but for the sake of success, they deployed missiles in the deepest secrecy.
                    Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                    many believe that there was a unilateral retreat of the USSR

                    It's just that both the USSR and the USA removed their missiles from Europe and Cuba. But our forty thousandth contingent remained in Cuba with air defense systems, aviation at airfields (and nuclear warheads for them), the possibility of calling for rest and repair of our warships and submarines. We had a group there like the Americans in Ramstein. And the SGA was forbidden even to fart crookedly at Cuba - it was under our wide roof. And not only she.
                    Therefore, if such an agreement (military-political alliance) is again concluded now, then the military escalation will henceforth not only be at the borders of our Belgorod and Voronezh regions. , but also at the very borders of the United States. And nuclear escalation.
                    Nuclear escalation off the coast of the United States.
                    In response to the deployment of nuclear weapons in Europe against Russia and its allies.
                    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                      DymOk_v_dYmke 23 November 2022 18: 41
                      +1
                      Quote: bayard
                      Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                      1. The US has deployed missiles in Pakistan.

                      in England and Turkey.

                      Yes, confused (everything Powers, to him).

                      Quote: bayard
                      Therefore, if such an agreement (military-political alliance) is again concluded now, then the military escalation will henceforth not only be at the borders of our Belgorod and Voronezh regions. , but also at the very borders of the United States. And nuclear escalation.

                      I'm talking about exactly the same thing:
                      Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                      Therefore, I believe that a military alliance should first be concluded with the clause ~ "an attack on one of the countries is recognized as an attack on the union and will cause a joint response." After that, Cuba will be "covered" (if it believes the country that has already flown it once) and it will already be possible to put bases and missiles in opposition to NATO ones in Europe.

                      hi
              2. Alexander Grigoryev_2
                Alexander Grigoryev_2 24 November 2022 17: 05
                +1
                And I want to smoke with Liberos or Partagos. Although I have not smoked for 10 years, I remember the taste.
            3. Alexander Antonov_2
              Alexander Antonov_2 23 November 2022 13: 18
              -1
              Rather, it will be "Katz offers to surrender"
          2. DrMadfisher_2
            DrMadfisher_2 23 November 2022 03: 44
            -1
            Aha! And so the Cuban came to Russia
        2. marat2016
          marat2016 22 November 2022 21: 01
          -6
          They have a budget of the Moscow Region at the level of the cost of 1 such complex ...
          1. bayard
            bayard 22 November 2022 22: 35
            +3
            Quote: marat2016
            They have a MO budget at the level of the cost of 1 such complex ..

            These complexes can be placed there like the "Bastion" in Tartus "- to cover our military bases. And the Cubans themselves can be supplied on account of rent, as was the case under the USSR.
            1. Plate
              Plate 23 November 2022 09: 49
              +1
              Only now, for example, the United States will introduce a naval blockade of Cuba. And what should Russia do? She won't punch it. It is certainly necessary to develop military-technical cooperation with Cuba, to put all sorts of DBKs, air defense systems, yes, it would be interesting. But putting a base there is unnecessary, in my opinion.
              And if they do, then immediately with the announcement that tactical nuclear warheads are stored in its arsenals, which the contingent has the right to use for its defense. But it will warm up an already hot situation.
              1. bayard
                bayard 23 November 2022 17: 15
                0
                Quote: Plate
                Only now, for example, the United States will introduce a naval blockade of Cuba. And what should Russia do? She won't punch it.

                First, by what right?
                If we have an agreement on a military-political union, then this is an encroachment on Russia.
                Quote: Plate
                She won't punch it.

                The convoys will be escorted by warships.
                Will they stop them?
                By force?
                What if we answer?
                When delivering and escorting transport convoys to Syria, there were also such attempts FIRST. But as soon as they organized military outposts and raised the naval flag of the Russian Federation, and all this disgusting stopped.
                Moreover, there is the possibility of transferring such missile systems by air - by Ruslans.
                And of course, such bases and such complexes are of importance to us only when these missile systems are equipped with nuclear warheads.
                1. Plate
                  Plate 23 November 2022 20: 58
                  0
                  Quote: bayard
                  First, by what right?

                  Because they can. Here, one of the most important European energy arteries was blown up, causing an environmental catastrophe along the way, and nothing. The blockade of Cuba is nothing at all against such a background.
                  Quote: bayard
                  Moreover, there is the possibility of transferring such missile systems by air - by Ruslans.

                  First of all, should we take something to Venezuela, load it on Ruslans and by air to Cuba?
                  Quote: bayard
                  And of course, such bases and such complexes are of importance to us only when these missile systems are equipped with nuclear warheads.

                  Well, then I would probably even agree with such a base. Although I understand its military uselessness, it will tickle the American inhabitants well.
                  1. bayard
                    bayard 23 November 2022 22: 12
                    0
                    Quote: Plate
                    Because they can.

                    Intercept a convoy of ships under the naval flag of the Russian Federation and under the escort of its warships? I understand that "they can", only this is already an act of war. And you can decide on such deliveries and advanced deployment only when you yourself have firmly decided to use these funds for their intended purpose in the event of aggression against Russia (and its ships). If they decide to do this, then they decide to go to war.
                    For a forced war.
                    But the war is for the complete destruction of the enemy.
                    Quote: Plate
                    The blockade of Cuba is nothing at all against such a background.

                    The Americans themselves then (after the Caribbean Crisis) told our generals (during meetings in the late 80s) that if you had military convoys (vessels escorted by warships), then Soviet ships could simply pass through the American curtain, not paying attention to them. Warships and military convoys would not have dared to detain. Because this is a war.
                    Quote: Plate
                    First of all, should we take something to Venezuela, load it on Ruslans and by air to Cuba?

                    Why so difficult? "Ruslans" immediately to Cuba. Firstly, air defense systems. Fighters (Su-35S \ 30SM2) will fly themselves with refueling and a leader. Then BRK. And then everything else.
                    Quote: Plate
                    Well, then I would probably even agree with such a base. Although I understand its military uselessness, it will tickle the American inhabitants well.

                    Why the uselessness?
                    Several hundred CRBDs and IRBMs at a dagger distance from the US East Coast? Useless ? As a weapon of the first / preemptive / retaliatory strike? With flying time in minutes? Which are not included in the number of nuclear warheads on strategic carriers?
                    These will be strategic, but medium-range missiles capable of covering most of the US territory.
                    Moreover, as a FORCED MEASURE in response to the deployment of American missiles in Europe and as opposed to the French and English SLBMs on their SSBNs. In fact, we (on the basis of the mirror response) have the right to place there missiles no less than the United States, Britain and France have in Europe, including American B-61-12 nuclear bombs.
                    From our side, these can be KRBD "Caliber" and "Caliber-M", GZUR "Zirkon" as part of the DBK, GZUR "Dagger" on the MiG-31K, as well as a new IRBM. Of course, air defense systems, IA, surveillance radars of all necessary types, including ZGRLS and early warning systems, missile defense systems (defending the Island of Freedom from a ballistic threat is a sacred matter), PLO aviation, AWACS, RTR, as well as basing ships of the DMZ of the Russian Navy on an ongoing basis with the performance of military services in the waters of the Caribbean Sea and other adjacent waters.
                    Will there be a blockade?
                    We will break through with military convoys.
                    And yes - it's time to withdraw from the SALT treaties, they do not correspond to the interests of our security. Come out practically, and not declaratively, by increasing the number of strategic carriers to a size sufficient for the security of the Country.
                    And not to conduct any negotiations on these (SALT) topics until the end of the conflict and until our strategic arsenals are brought to a SUFFICIENT level.
                    hi
                    1. Plate
                      Plate 24 November 2022 06: 45
                      +1
                      Quote: bayard
                      Which are not included in the number of nuclear warheads on strategic carriers?

                      Oh, and here you are firmly right. Didn't take it into account.
                      Quote: bayard
                      And yes - it's time to withdraw from the SALT treaties, they do not correspond to the interests of our security.

                      These treaties not only do not correspond to the interests of our security, they generally do not correspond to our time. They were good when there were advanced military powers in the face of the USA and the USSR, while all the rest trudged somewhere far behind. Today there is nothing quite like it. Iran, the DPRK, the PRC have missile weapons ... if they conclude SALT treaties, then they are already at the level of UN resolutions, multilateral treaties, etc.
                    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
                      DymOk_v_dYmke 24 November 2022 18: 05
                      0
                      Dreams. Pink.
                      Today, only a cover agreement is realistic in the event of an attack
                      and only then all sorts of bells and whistles of different power and OTX.
                      1. bayard
                        bayard 24 November 2022 18: 38
                        +1
                        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                        Today, only a cover agreement is realistic in the event of an attack

                        And how can you provide cover for an island state in another hemisphere without having a military infrastructure there?
                        And of course, all this can be deployed only after the conclusion of a comprehensive union treaty. And if such an agreement is possible for other "pink dreams". Above, I have described the proposed composition of these dreams.
                      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
                        DymOk_v_dYmke 24 November 2022 19: 04
                        +1
                        Quote: bayard
                        And how can you provide cover for an island state in another hemisphere without having a military infrastructure there?

                        You do not.
                        But before the conclusion of the contract, it is not permissible to twitch. hi
                      3. bayard
                        bayard 24 November 2022 19: 14
                        +1
                        The agreement may be unspoken for a time and be made public only at the time of deployment.
                        And the very fact of the opening of a monument to Fidel in the bourgeois Russian Federation ... an amazing case, if we assume that all this is "just like that."
                        By the way, a good memorial. It's a pity not near the American embassy... But a monument to Alexander Zakharchenko can be erected near the US embassy.
                2. DymOk_v_dYmke
                  DymOk_v_dYmke 24 November 2022 17: 52
                  0
                  Quote: bayard
                  The convoys will be escorted by warships.
                  Will they stop them?
                  By force?
                  What if we answer?

                  By 1961 it was.
                  There were convoys, there were bulk carriers, there were submarines escorting them - and not a single dog dared to bite them.
                  1. bayard
                    bayard 24 November 2022 19: 04
                    0
                    There were no guarded convoys - there were caravans of civilian ships without any armed cover. And our four diesel-electric submarines went there after, when the naval blockade became a fait accompli. And until the batteries were discharged, these submarines did not surface.
                    It was in the conversations of our and American generals that "the USSR should have organized convoys under the protection of warships" - openly, under the flag of the USSR Navy. It was the discovery of secret large-scale shipments of missiles and other military cargoes to Cuba, it was the secret nature of this deployment, that caused such a reaction, because it was perceived as a covert preparation for a sudden nuclear strike on the United States. They then deployed their missiles in England and Turkey quite officially and publicly.
                    And about the unpreparedness of our Fleet at that time to organize such a large-scale cover operation (even about the psychological and organizational unpreparedness), even on this site there were already a lot of materials and discussions.
                    And do not forget that despite all the organizational and diplomatic mistakes made in the implementation of this deployment, even after the resolution of the Caribbean Crisis, our XNUMXth contingent, military and special aviation, and air defense systems remained in Cuba. Since then, Cuba has become our outpost in the underbelly of the United States. Our ships and submarines entered its ports, our anti-submarine aviation was based there.
                    And unarmed ships in 1961, yes - they stopped. But they did not dare to arrest or even inspect.
                    I repeat - the American generals, in an informal setting, recalling those events, said that if these ships were sailing under the flag of the Navy and escorted by warships, no one would have dared to touch them. And even then they didn’t know that Cuba already had not only nuclear warheads for R-12 missiles, but also nuclear warheads for the Kometa missile launcher, nuclear bombs for Il-28 bombers and sea bottom landmines. For some reason, they were sure that they managed to bring only missile bodies to Cuba, without nuclear warheads. And they were clearly frightened of their former determination to attack Cuba when they heard from their Soviet colleagues that all the nuclear warheads for the missiles delivered to Cuba were there and by that time had already been installed on their carriers.
                    Now the equipment is much more mobile, air transportable, compact and has a much shorter preparation time for launch.
                    And the times are troubling.
    3. neworange88
      neworange88 22 November 2022 20: 27
      +4
      Quote: K._2
      If Vovan places missiles there, he will do well and will be rehabilitated for the shame of recent months, and the Yankees will piss boiling water, and the rank and file as well. It would be a knife in the Yankee's back, checkmate, spit in the face.


      Just like 60 years ago.
    4. faiver
      faiver 22 November 2022 20: 39
      +11
      That would be
      - “would” interfere, here, at some of their borders, the spirit is not enough to resolve problems, what kind of Cuba is there ....
    5. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 22 November 2022 21: 25
      +10
      Quote: K._2
      If Vovan places missiles there, he will do well

      It is enough to allow our ships to have a MTO base there. For submarines and surface ships, they came, they got up. refurbished. conducted exercises, the next came. In non-stop mode. And what is on board these ships. how much ... no one needs to know.
      1. Fisherman
        Fisherman 22 November 2022 21: 30
        +11
        I agree, MTO is more than enough, submarines need to rest and their constant rotation off the coast of the United States will be akin to US nuclear bombs in Germany. Moral parity will be restored, US residents will carefully read the news where the US is trying to spoil Russia in order to dig deeper bunkers in its more than 50 states. Let them piss themselves off.
        1. bayard
          bayard 23 November 2022 04: 52
          +1
          Quote: 30 vis
          It is enough to allow our ships to have a MTO base there.

          Should this base be covered? smile
          It is necessary. yes
          This means several divisions of the DBK ("Bal", "Bastion", "Bastion-C"), which means a couple of regiments of air defense missiles, which means cover fighters, which means radar lighting means, which means ZGRLS (both "Sunflower" for the near zone, and "Container, to cover ALL North America in general), which means the Voronezh early warning system (how else? If such a booze?), which means RTR and PLO aircraft are permanently based for permanent duty (like they have over the Black Sea, the Baltic and the Barents). immediately after the deployment of their IRBM in Europe (they plan to begin deployment next year, for this they left the INF Treaty).
          Quote: Fisherman
          MTO is more than enough, submarines need to rest and their constant rotation off the coast of the United States will be akin to US nuclear bombs in Germany. Moral parity will be restored, US residents will carefully read the news where the US is trying to spoil Russia in order to dig deeper bunkers in its more than 50 states.

          ... Do we have many such submarines? Multi-purpose, as I understand it, because the Boreas are on duty in the north and in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
          No, alas. In addition, "Ash" turned out to be fabulously expensive (there is not without corruption here). But if we have a base (and not only logistics) in Cuba, then it is much cheaper to place the CD and IRBM on the territory of Cuba on a permanent basis. Of course, in response to American nuclear weapons in Europe. And it doesn’t matter that they have YET only B-61-12 bombs. This is for now. From next year, there will already be IRBMs with a hypersonic glide unit, and our missiles on a permanent basis in Cuba will be more than justified.
          More than !
          And to protect the naval base (even if the logistics), we need to place our diesel-electric submarines there, say 677 projects (if they are also with the LIAB, it’s great), to counter the enemies of Russia and Cuba in the Caribbean Sea. On an ongoing basis . Like in Tartus. Only not less than a brigade.
          And a couple of regiments (yes, at least one for starters) MRAs on the Su-34M \ M2 will not be superfluous either. And a couple of regiments on the Su-35S or Su-30SM2.
          What's getting fat?
          And the military bases of the United States and their allies around our beloved, is it really liquid?
          Expensive ? smile
          Yes, no more expensive than in Tartus and Khmeimim. Maybe more, because this is the Forward Deployment Force - under the very belly of the SGA. Everything is within walking distance, just reach out your hand. yes Any means of destruction becomes strategic ... but BE DESIGNATED as such stop angry has no right !
          And if we still have Borey-K in service (at the price of construction as a frigate pr. 22350 - no more than 550 million dollars), but in sufficient quantities (12 pieces, so that 6 pieces each for the Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet ), then they will also be able to be on duty on a permanent basis off both coasts of the SGA, and our ships (!) And aviation from Cuba will provide them with cover, information coverage of the surface and air situation and insurance in case of an unpleasant event (and there are different cases) by our tugs and rescue boats and aircraft from our naval and air bases in the region. For this single region is not Cuba, it is famous for our friends, but Cuba among them is a Diamond. For the IDEAL Hedgehog in the pants of the hegemon. bully How Ukraine is now for us.
          hi
          1. Fisherman
            Fisherman 23 November 2022 10: 01
            0
            it’s possible not to scatter money so powerfully, as long as there is enough MTO and covering units in a small amount .... in the event of a strike against Cuba by one Sarmat, it will be enough to demolish a dozen bases and cities in the USA completely, so here the psychological effect will be an order of magnitude from the base more of a real threat to the United States, so this base must be covered purely by regulations.
            1. bayard
              bayard 23 November 2022 18: 07
              0
              A base without means of destruction poses no threat, but we need to create a mirror threat to nuclear weapons and missiles in Europe. And don’t count on submarines with cruise missiles, we can count them on our fingers and they still need to get there. And somehow shoot back in neutral waters near the United States. With solid land, this will be much more convenient, safer and more accurate. And of course, the deployment of forces in Cuba will (if any) take place in stages. And the more there is, the calmer it will be here.
    6. Vita vko
      Vita vko 22 November 2022 21: 29
      +11
      Quote: K._2
      place missiles there - he will do well

      Let him first restore the intelligence center in Cuba.
      Then you can set up the production of UAVs there. And the fact that UAVs suddenly turn out to be hypersonic can be attributed to technology costs and sanctions on the supply of metrological equipment.
    7. krops777
      krops777 23 November 2022 04: 17
      +1
      It would be a knife in the Yankee's back, checkmate, spit in the face.


      A base in Cuba would not interfere with nuclear weapons, until a direct threat hangs over the United States and Britain, they will not calm down, otherwise it would be a strong argument.
    8. Amper
      Amper 23 November 2022 15: 10
      0
      He surrenders cities in his country to enemies, he cannot protect the population from direct aggression, his armed forces are ruined and robbed by friends, relatives live with the adversary !!! belay What bases! There will soon be nothing and no one to cut! belay
  2. Dizel200
    Dizel200 22 November 2022 20: 21
    0
    Cuba is cool, but far away. But it's still good to have such friends.
    1. isv000
      isv000 22 November 2022 21: 40
      -1
      Quote: Dizel200
      Cuba is cool, but far away. But it's still good to have such friends.

      Cuba is far away, Cuba is far away - Cuba is near! Golden coast, golden coast - Varadero, Varadero! soldier
  3. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 22 November 2022 20: 26
    +13
    It is a pity that so much time has been lost in our relations with Cuba.
    First, Gorby betrayed Fidel, and the drunk Yeltsin didn’t care at all.
    1. Quetzalcoatl
      Quetzalcoatl 23 November 2022 07: 33
      +2
      There is indeed a lot of wasted time. Just how much can you blame only the hunchback and Yeltsin for everything!? The intelligence center was closed under the guarantor, who has been in power for 22 years! ..
  4. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 22 November 2022 20: 31
    +4
    And I still remember Fidel and: "Viva Cuba - viva la revolution"!
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 22 November 2022 20: 46
      +3
      Yep, there was a time. The Comandante was presented with Stechkin with a walnut wooden holster and especially careful workmanship.
      1. marat2016
        marat2016 22 November 2022 21: 11
        -1
        Maybe then yes, but this is how he managed the usual:
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 22 November 2022 21: 13
          +1
          Sorry, but the photo is clearly not Stechkin - it even looks like a 1911 Colt, if you zoom in on the photo. If it doesn't seem to me.... The slope of the straight handle does not look like Stechkin. And the front.
    2. isv000
      isv000 22 November 2022 21: 42
      +2
      Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
      And I still remember Fidel and: "Viva Cuba - viva la revolution"!

      Humanity! He deserved that on his monument it sounded simply - FIDEL!
    3. DrMadfisher_2
      DrMadfisher_2 23 November 2022 03: 48
      +2
      And I saw Lenin!
      The text of my comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration ...
      1. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 23 November 2022 09: 51
        0
        Quote: DrMadfisher_2
        And I saw Lenin!
        The text of my comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration ...

        I also saw not only Lenin, but also Stalin.
        At the Mausoleum, of course.
  5. Alien From
    Alien From 22 November 2022 20: 39
    -3
    With the Cubans, too, everything is not easy, mattresses hold them by the balls with terrible force. There will be no missiles there.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 22 November 2022 21: 23
      +1
      Can't a simple naval base, a maintenance point, an approach airfield be built?
      Today it is possible to put a barge and all the missiles in several containers ... And what do we need them for? We do not seek to destroy the United States first ...
    2. solar
      solar 22 November 2022 22: 04
      -1
      Of course it won't. After the Caribbean crisis, there was an agreement - the USSR removes troops and missiles from Cuba, the States no longer touch Cuba. How many years have passed, and the agreement is respected by both sides, the Cubans are satisfied with this.
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 23 November 2022 11: 14
        -1
        Quote from solar
        Of course it won't. After the Caribbean crisis, there was an agreement - the USSR removes troops and missiles from Cuba, the States no longer touch Cuba. How many years have passed, and the agreement is respected by both sides, the Cubans are satisfied with this.

        There was one more point (the main one for the USSR, but we agreed on it ( am ) not to mention): The US was removing its missiles from Pakistan.
        1. solar
          solar 23 November 2022 12: 08
          0
          From Turkey. But they were already written off soon, and those in Turkey, and those in Italy, instead of them, the Americans put much more effective Polaris on duty.
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 23 November 2022 16: 13
            0
            Quote from solar
            From Turkey.

            Yes, from Turkey.
            Guilty, confused with the country of departure of spy planes, including Powers. hi
  6. Ghost1
    Ghost1 22 November 2022 20: 45
    +3
    Only here, when the United States makes some hints of a settlement, the line immediately changes and the evil empire becomes partners.
  7. yuriy55
    yuriy55 22 November 2022 21: 15
    +3
    Cuban President in Kremlin: Cuba and Russia have a common enemy - the Yankee empire

    Previously, the USSR and Cuba were united not only by a common enemy, but also by common ideas of social justice and development paths.
    There is no need to talk about how corrupt lawyers led the country to the need to stand with outstretched hands in front of enemies and forget about past cooperation. We traded friends for a plate of stew and jeans. And what songs about the capitalist paradise and the delights of the market were sung to us by corrupt officials and functionaries ... They didn’t come up with anything to cheat ...
    Here Moscow begins to accept those who are not afraid to vote FOR Russia, even being in close proximity to the Satanists. and then there is Venezuela ... There are the Bahamas ... There is the same DPRK ...
    Why, as a child, did my son and his friends understand so well that:
  8. cniza
    cniza 22 November 2022 21: 23
    +5
    Cuban President in Kremlin: Cuba and Russia have a common enemy - the Yankee empire


    This is not a Yankee empire - this is an empire of lies ...
  9. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 22 November 2022 21: 26
    +3
    The President of Cuba is of Asturian origin. Long live Diaz Canel
  10. Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 22 November 2022 21: 45
    0
    Cuba allowed same-sex marriages, mentally young Cubans are all in the USA, so this is another fiction about a friendly country of Cuba, they probably asked to get oil or fertilizer for free ...
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 22 November 2022 23: 56
      0
      In terms of sexual relations, they have different traditions. The people, by our standards, are a little dissolute, or liberated. And it does not depend on whether they are building socialism or something else.
  11. albert
    albert 22 November 2022 22: 08
    +1
    Just today, today, a monument to Fidel was opened in Moscow.
  12. KERMET
    KERMET 22 November 2022 22: 21
    +5
    You know that the Soviet Union and Russia have always, even today, supported and continue to support the Cuban people in their struggle for independence, for sovereignty.

    Yeah, but Fidel himself once said that Russia's actions after the collapse of the USSR could not be called anything other than a betrayal of Cuba
    1. Sergey Drozdov
      Sergey Drozdov 23 November 2022 01: 13
      +1
      Well, I must say that the Comandante said everything correctly ... what is already here.
    2. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 23 November 2022 10: 11
      -1
      betrayal of Russia? all debts are written off! Why does Russia need such "friends" for material reward? The West and the United States will always have more money, and all these "fake" friends will eventually crawl to the "golden calf"!
  13. Saboteur_Navy
    Saboteur_Navy 22 November 2022 22: 33
    -1
    Cuba is an excellent springboard for the training of sabotage units
  14. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 23 November 2022 00: 01
    -3
    Whether the Cubans will contact those who have already betrayed them - who knows. I hope they forget how Russia abandoned them to please the States ...
    The Castro brothers never forgot this (although they continued to be friends with us). I very much hope that the current leadership of Cuba will turn this shameful page.
    And now, more than ever, Russia needs a strong support in the other hemisphere. Ideally, this is the Venezuela-Nicaragua-Cuba axis. And there, with a competent policy, one could try to tear Mexico away from the States. In 20-30 years, I think it would be quite possible.
    But this is a damn ... dreams! It is clear that this would only be possible if we printed money for the whole world!
    1. Sergey Drozdov
      Sergey Drozdov 23 November 2022 01: 14
      +1
      This would be possible, comrade, if we had a socialist system, and in the present state, these are indeed dreams...
  15. Sergey Drozdov
    Sergey Drozdov 23 November 2022 01: 09
    -1
    Yes, of course, the Russian capital of the comrades from the island of Liberty 20 years ago threw it notably - and after all, the Cubans got out with the help of those who studied at Soviet medical institutes, created medicine of the highest level and began to earn money ... The 22nd World Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties was held in Cuba ... Our Communist Party and Comrade Zyuganov personally, of course, did not go ... They sent Ukrainian "communists" instead of themselves - Simonenko and Tsarev (the one who "leased" the Soviet health resort in Crimea - the sanatorium named after Kirov). But at the signing of the resolution, the General Secretary of the CPC and the President of Cuba, comrade. Miguel Diaz Canel ... An interesting document turned out:
    https://cont.ws/@gemonfelix/2417099
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 23 November 2022 11: 32
      0
      +1
      Thanks for the link!
      The minus, apparently, was either too lazy to get acquainted or liberoids to the marrow of their bones.
  16. guest
    guest 23 November 2022 01: 14
    +1
    Cuba and Russia have a common enemy - this is the Yankee empire

    And what about helping to fight this enemy? Well, if not even on the battlefield, then at least in the UN.
  17. navycat777
    navycat777 23 November 2022 01: 25
    -2
    Now two capitalist leaders, two hucksters, have met. Which can start a mutually beneficial capitalist game. Blackmailing the Yankees by injecting threats. Reconstruction of the reconnaissance base, then the MTO base for the NK, then the jump airfield for the TU-22. then nuclear submarine bases. The goal is mutually beneficial for both parties. Russia - concessions on Ukraine, Cuba, the lifting of all kinds of bans, etc. drinks
  18. ZnaxarJorge
    ZnaxarJorge 23 November 2022 02: 00
    -3
    I am sure that there are many young Fidels in Cuba who are ready to fight against Western globalism-imperialism. They could be in the steppes of Ukraine shoulder to shoulder with our guys. For the idea and for justice. Not for Abramovich and the gas pipeline.
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  20. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 23 November 2022 07: 41
    -1
    who writes about nuclear weapons in Cuba again, knows in general about the causes of the "Caribbean crisis"?
    "The nuclear arsenal of the USSR was much more modest than the American one (the strategic one is incomparably). A significant part of it was R-7 missiles, intercontinental, but very imperfect, with a long preparation time and low reliability. There were only four launch complexes in Plesetsk suitable for a combat launch. The more advanced R-16 missiles were still deployed in insufficient numbers and, like the R-7, were not protected from a possible attack against the launchers themselves (open).By the time of the Caribbean crisis, the number of ICBMs of the USSR reached 75 units[30], but no more than 25 could be launched at the same time.
    About 700 medium-range ballistic missiles [30] R-12 and R-14 were also in service.

    those. the USSR DID NOT HAVE at that moment ICBMs in the amount necessary to destroy the USA - the range was not enough, there were no corresponding nuclear submarines! in the end, there was no agreement on its non-deployment ... now there are more than ICBMs and nuclear submarines and there is a Treaty, so why do we need nuclear weapons in Cuba then, can someone clarify from those who advocate for its deployment? out of harm or to be? so so reasons...
    1. K._2
      K._2 23 November 2022 08: 38
      -1
      A base in Cuba, stuffed with weapons I don’t want to, would be an excellent sobering-up station for the States and their citizens, power parity, image, real power and intelligence, the pluses can be listed further, the question is whether our comprador rulers will have enough eggs.
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 23 November 2022 10: 52
        +2
        Well, I'm talking about nuclear weapons, and not about the base in general, but so .. yes .. there are doubts that someone will actually do it ..
  21. Uprun
    Uprun 23 November 2022 07: 54
    -1
    In the negotiations of the first persons of states, there is a public agenda and not a public one. It all depends on what you can agree on. Looking forward to a visit from Venezuela.
  22. Romanenko
    Romanenko 23 November 2022 08: 14
    +2
    Quote: "Cuba and Russia have a common enemy - this is the Yankee empire"
    His words are in the ears of God, but what will Cuba do if these same Yankees lift sanctions from them tomorrow?
    In Vietnam, they have already begun to forget what they owe to the "Big White Brother" with a striped ass
  23. oleg-nekrasov-19
    oleg-nekrasov-19 23 November 2022 14: 38
    0
    How much blood is drunk by the common enemy of Russia and Cuba from all over the world and no one will calm them down yet.
  24. shed
    shed 23 November 2022 17: 10
    0
    but nothing that Russia has forgiven $ 30 billion.