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Air bombs ODAB-500 of the Russian Aerospace Forces completed the defeat of the enemy formations that attempted an offensive near the Disputed

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Air bombs ODAB-500 of the Russian Aerospace Forces completed the defeat of the enemy formations that attempted an offensive near the Disputed

The Ukrainian command continues desperate attempts to break through the Russian defenses in the LPR with strikes both from the north on the Svatovo-Kremennaya line and from the south, attacking the combat formations of the RF Armed Forces from the Seversk region in the direction of Lisichansk. One of the offensive operations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the southern flank was caught on a video published by the TG channel "Military Chronicle": the enemy was trying to capture the fortified area created along the T-13-02 highway between the settlements of Berestovoye and Verkhnekamenka.


The enemy concentrated forces in the Disputable. From there, the first group of militants advanced, dismounting from MT-LB as they approached the positions of Russian troops. Shooters under the cover of heavy infantry (machine gunners, grenade launchers) penetrated the trenches from the north, after which close combat ensued.

The entire movement of the enemy was monitored by Russian drones, whose operators gave target designation to attack aircraft and artillery. After air strikes (in particular, with the use of 122-mm NURS S-13), the enemy lost some of the militants. A medical team was sent to evacuate the wounded. After its completion, the second group of militants went on the attack, reaching the Russian positions from the right flank. The enemy managed to gain a foothold in the trenches.

However, the enemy forces were pinned down by the fire of the shooters, and howitzers ("Hyacinth-B" and D-20) were engaged in their destruction. Along the way, artillery smashed the logistics center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, from which the offensive was supported, destroying several BMP-2s. Having suffered significant losses, the enemy withdrew into the forest plantation, trying to get through it to their original positions. Reconnaissance drones continued to closely track the movements of the enemy, despite the fact that the enemy tried to shoot them down. Thanks to this, the retreating enemy forces were hit by a Su-34 bomber, which dropped ODAB-500 bombs from a low altitude, which finished off the enemy.

As a result, the offensive bogged down, the enemy was forced to retreat, losing the last survivors during the withdrawal. This battle, which ended in the complete defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, demonstrates, if not decisive, then a significant role of reconnaissance UAVs, artillery and aviation in battle, the infantry, significantly outnumbered by the attackers, was largely occupied with holding back the enemy, while attack aircraft, bombers and howitzers were engaged in its destruction.

It is possible to identify shortcomings from this battle - the small number of defending infantry and the use of free-falling bombs from low altitude.

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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 22 November 2022 16: 12
    +12
    Air bombs ODAB-500 of the Russian Aerospace Forces completed the rout who attempted an offensive under the Disputed formations of the enemy
    "Yeah, that's not it for you..." (DMB)
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      1. dementor873
        dementor873 22 November 2022 16: 24
        -3
        25% said about 80K. Yes, small comment, small.
    3. single-n
      single-n 22 November 2022 16: 24
      +5
      And when to cook them? Our great life-saver and line-drawer, dragged on all summer. Now either drive to slaughter without training. Or leave until the replenishment is trained. A great combinator and a multi-move genius.
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 22 November 2022 16: 57
        +8
        Our great life-saver and line-drawer, dragged on all summer.

        He didn't pull at all. He was engaged in tank biathlon. After all, preparing several tanks for biathlon in such a way as to prevent the Chinese from winning it is much more serious and responsible than organizing and conducting a military defense.
        1. Smart ass_
          Smart ass_ 22 November 2022 17: 57
          +17
          Yes, I have seen it myself.
          Putin climbed under the tank, and began to turn the screws there.
          Ministers pester him with all sorts of reports, and he sends them, and keeps turning the cogs on the tank, stupid ..
          He doesn't understand anything in life.
          Now, if instead of him there was a sofa expert with VO, if only the country would heal, right?))))
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 22 November 2022 19: 27
            -5
            Quote: Clever_
            Now, if instead of him there was a sofa expert with VO, if only the country would heal, right?))))

            In vain you are! I am an ordinary average citizen, but in my life I have given out the correct decisions of an "international scale" more than once! While the decisions of the ruling regime in Russia on the same topics turned out to be a bunch in a puddle!
            1. Plate
              Plate 22 November 2022 20: 58
              +10
              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              I am an ordinary average citizen, but in my life I have given out the correct decisions of an "international scale" more than once!

              You won't die of modesty, sir. lol
              1. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 22 November 2022 21: 56
                +2
                Wrong! In life, I am a modest person ... but there is no need to belittle myself in vain! yes
            2. the same doctor
              the same doctor 23 November 2022 09: 11
              +5
              Absolutely right. The average citizen thinks and acts in the interests of the country and the people. He even fucks his wife in order to increase the birth rate.
              And the Kremlin's motives are absolutely... shall we say, incomprehensible. Where can one get decisions that are correct from the point of view of the state, if the goals and motives are completely different?
            3. insafufa
              insafufa 23 November 2022 12: 17
              +2
              I am an ordinary average citizen, but in my life I have given out the correct decisions of an "international scale" more than once!
              Enlighten the poor wink secretly how the NWO will end for GDP and Russia
            4. YOUR
              YOUR 23 November 2022 14: 46
              +1
              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              I am an ordinary average citizen, but in my life I have given out the correct decisions of an "international scale" more than once!

              Apparently they don't read your comments.
            5. EMMM
              EMMM 23 November 2022 18: 07
              0
              So let's go to the presidency. Let's look at the "correct solutions"!
          2. Shark Lover
            Shark Lover 23 November 2022 07: 39
            0
            A huge plus, notably these were trolled. They are all looking for the guilty, isn’t it better to turn the godfather on themselves)))) Their wife is to blame, the neighbor, the brother and all the others, it was necessary to fill up the Army there right after Chechnya, roll everyone out, and take Poland too.
            1. single-n
              single-n 23 November 2022 09: 57
              +8
              Here is an example of positive thinking. Keep it up. When you receive a payment with an increase in tariffs, remember that it was not they who raised the prices. You don't work very hard! Palm oil is poured into products instead of milk. Why didn’t you get a cow? The army lacks modern communication systems. Well, instead of a mobile phone, you could buy a radio station for the army. Or sleep. And that head of the communications planning department of the Main Communications Directorate of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Alexander Ogloblin has nothing to do with it. Well, just think, he heated up the budget of the army by 1,6 billion. Now let him suffer as much as 4,5 years. But I wonder how many guys have already died from a shitty connection. And how much is crippled. But remember THEY DO NOT DO IT! It was YOU who could not come and conclude the right contracts, organize acceptance, and train personnel in your personal time. So go to the front and atone for the blame !! Pest and slacker!
          3. YOUR
            YOUR 23 November 2022 14: 49
            +2
            But how cleverly they turned the topic. Just a couple of some provocateurs and they are no longer discussing the topic, or rather, they don’t discuss it at all thanks to them, but Putin. And they did. But the question is, where are our moderators who generously sprinkle warnings. AU!
        2. topol717
          topol717 22 November 2022 23: 50
          -3
          Quote: Amateur
          He didn't pull at all. He was engaged in tank biathlon.

          How do you know what is more important for the country.
          This is what Zomboyaschik tells you about the importance of the life of each individual. And for the state, a victory in biathlon can be many times more profitable than any Izyums and Khersons. We don't know the whole schedule.
          1. ilya.muromczev2013
            ilya.muromczev2013 23 November 2022 03: 47
            +1
            Navalny, what are you? :) What, have you already been allowed to go online for good behavior? :)...
        3. ilya.muromczev2013
          ilya.muromczev2013 23 November 2022 03: 45
          +1
          Yes, if it were not for him, there would be no WSO at all. Yes, and there would be no army in Russia. So, no one would go for ... all his critics (they are whiners). Fershtein?
          1. MBRSS
            MBRSS 23 November 2022 04: 37
            -1
            Yes, if it were not for him, there would be no WSO at all.

            What is it about. There would be no need for an NWO with a visionary leader instead. And all HPP turned out to be fiction.
      2. Sibguest
        Sibguest 22 November 2022 17: 06
        +3
        Are you talking about Zelepuken - your "Napoleon" - Are you our unrespected?
        1. single-n
          single-n 22 November 2022 17: 12
          -1
          What do you. I'm talking about a line drawer and a formidable pen thrower. He also opened the wheel in Moscow. While the "Napoleon" smashed his troops.
      3. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 22 November 2022 17: 25
        +13
        Shooters under the cover of heavy infantry (machine gunners, grenade launchers) penetrated from the northern direction into the trenches, after which close combat ensued.
        I don't understand something?! If you saw that the enemies were climbing to the trenches, then wouldn’t it be easier to “comb” them with artillery right away, to the trenches? Why let them into the trenches? Outside the trenches, they would have had more losses! Toli agitation clumsy, roofing felts just a lie! Where are our observers? Where is the cover with machine guns and grenade launchers? Has something changed in the tactics of platoon-company battles? Where are the cut-off positions?!
      4. Alekseev
        Alekseev 22 November 2022 17: 33
        +7
        Quote: Single-n
        And when to cook them?

        Yes, they miscalculated, in the heads of the authorities, apparently, the "Crimean option" and the hopes for an uprising of the hulks against the pro-Western junta and Zeli the Clown have settled.
        Yes, many hulks got something from the main banderlogs selling Russophobia, and they, you see, turn out to be non-brothers.
        Well, according to the article. Combat comments are needed, but they will be more credible if they are compiled by a military specialist and use military terminology. And then "heavy infantry", like the Romans? Logistics center on BMP....
        Judging by the text, ours adhered to the tactics that the Germans often used during the Second World War.
        After the start of the battle, the advanced units (combat guards) withdrew from the first line of trenches and called fire from all weapons, including aircraft. And this is probably correct.
      5. Smart ass_
        Smart ass_ 22 November 2022 17: 54
        +10
        And what happened to people, all are now great politicians and military leaders.
        They were normal virologists))
      6. Sergey3
        Sergey3 22 November 2022 19: 37
        +2
        I watched this video in Telegram back in September, so the untrained replenishment has nothing to do with it.
    4. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 22 November 2022 16: 30
      +7
      it’s not for me to judge from the couch, but why aren’t RGD-5s used in trench close combat, for example? no what? Ukrainian and he threw one ....
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 22 November 2022 17: 07
        +16
        Quote: Aerodrome
        it’s not for me to judge from the couch, but why aren’t RGD-5s used in trench close combat, for example? no what? Ukrainian and he threw one ....

        I don’t understand at all why a squad (even a platoon) flew out to bomb army aviation? And where are the same AGSs? Why didn’t they work out the MLRS or TOS for those hiding in the greenery?
        This cannot be shown as an achievement ... If MTLB covered the TOS during the landing, it would be a number. All this is at the level of the 70s 80s of the last century ...
        1. Elephant
          Elephant 22 November 2022 21: 40
          +7
          Banderlog quietly reached our trenches. And where are the minefields on the path of the enemy?
        2. Vladimirsky
          Vladimirsky 23 November 2022 07: 06
          +1
          If TOS (which has a range of 6 km) are pulled up to each department on MTLB, TOSs will all remain there. But to release a couple of AGS tapes for this purpose - that's it.
      2. Hadji Murat
        Hadji Murat 23 November 2022 06: 22
        0
        In the video, our fighter throws a grenade, everything is clearly visible, but he only had two of them ....
    5. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 22 November 2022 16: 33
      +1
      We are talking about the battle shown in the video.
  3. Pulkovo1942
    Pulkovo1942 22 November 2022 16: 25
    +15
    Yes, powerful shots. For the RF Armed Forces, a terrible drawback is the lack of strike drones and an acute shortage of kamikaze drones. With their help, it would be possible to mow down the enemies crowded in the trenches in batches.
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 23 November 2022 14: 59
      +1
      There are these attack drones. But you see how things are. In the video, a quadrocopter was shot down, another one is working, almost all bayraktars landed near the Ukrainians. Everyone quickly realized that such machines need to be dealt with first of all.
      The picture of the battlefield is certainly creepy. Verdun, Verdun is there ah ah ah, and you come to Disputed. A huge field and a funnel on a funnel. You look how you can survive there in such a meat grinder, survive, fight, win.
      1. Pulkovo1942
        Pulkovo1942 23 November 2022 15: 33
        0
        These machines need to be dealt with first.

        Of course, but these machines, with a sufficient number, can quite extinguish most of the air defense. Watch the video from the cart: the same Lancets extinguished more air defense systems in a couple of weeks than the traditional means of the RF Armed Forces in six months.
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 23 November 2022 15: 37
          +1
          Lancets and Geraniums are not shock UAVs loitering ammunition. The same lancet is launched on reconnoitered targets and not in a free search, and with geraniums a slightly different procedure, but also the targets must be reconnoitered, there must be coordinates.
          No such weapon fired in that direction, let her look for it.
  4. fax66
    fax66 22 November 2022 16: 27
    +38
    Those. The Armed Forces of Ukraine so "secretly and secretly made their way" several kilometers to our positions that the artillery and the Air Force reacted only when the battle began almost in our trenches?
    Drop dead "significant role of reconnaissance UAVs" ....
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 22 November 2022 17: 42
      +3
      Moreover, the remaining militants freely, without much haste, just leave ...
    2. Vyacheslav 64
      Vyacheslav 64 23 November 2022 04: 19
      +4
      In general, a strong war - one and a half squads went on the attack, and then this, guns, tanks, planes, a personal film reporter ... Half a car of explosives for each attacker :) In the nineties, more people went to the arrow because of the stall :)
  5. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 22 November 2022 16: 29
    +8
    Quote: Pulkovo1942
    Yes, powerful shots. For the RF Armed Forces, a terrible drawback is the lack of strike drones and an acute shortage of kamikaze drones. With their help, it would be possible to mow down the enemies crowded in the trenches in batches.


    Music..FIRE winked
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 22 November 2022 16: 38
      +6
      Well, not instantly. But yes, the number has increased. But if the lancet is a bit too much and hard to carry for such attacks, then the small, analogue of the switchblade that was recently shown on the robot is just right. These two attacks would have been kneaded in 20 minutes ... In theory, they should be at least ten per kilometer of front. It's stupid to lie in the oporniks in the TPK.
    2. Yura
      Yura 22 November 2022 17: 00
      0
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      Music..FIRE

      When I look at such shots or just a map of Ukraine with a marked front line, the music of Vivaldi's "Tango of Death" starts to sound in my head, for some reason it is performed by Vanessa May, I don't hear anything else, sometimes even subtitles and the text that I see is not perceived, sometimes I re-watch the video in order to purposefully delve into the text or sound.
      1. Turtle
        Turtle 22 November 2022 19: 05
        +1
        Quote: Jura
        Music by Vivaldi "Tango of Death"
        I'll listen right now. The Prodigy - Scienide always gets in my head
      2. Turtle
        Turtle 22 November 2022 19: 17
        +1
        Yes, Vanessa saws furiously! To be fair, at the time of Vivaldi there was no such musical phenomenon as "tango", strictly speaking, and this music itself has nothing to do with tango. Like the "Walkyries Waltz" from one perky song, the waltz has never been and is called "The Flight of the Valkyries", but all this is trifles from the realm of nit-picking.
        1. Yura
          Yura 22 November 2022 20: 41
          0
          Quote: Turtle
          The Prodigy

          I listened, the screen saver helped me to tune in right away, the music immediately evoked associations with the frames of the film "Alexander Nevsky", those that show the beginning and development of the attack of the knightly pig. Actually, this kind of music is not mine, but if it evokes feelings, that is, feelings, it will always find its listener.
  6. Joker62
    Joker62 22 November 2022 16: 38
    +8
    Quote: Peter_Koldunov
    It is possible to identify shortcomings from this battle - the small number of defending infantry

    In the sense - a small number?? And what, 330 thousand replenishment has already run out?

    Mdya ... But Generalisimus A.V. Suvorov said in his "Science to win" - Fight with skill, not numbers!
    Apparently, our "generals", otherwise just "polkans" - have become completely mediocre ... And it's not for nothing that such "warriors" are rinsed in the tail and mane ... Ramzan A. Kadyrov especially rinses.
    1. EFIM LYUBIN
      EFIM LYUBIN 22 November 2022 17: 45
      0
      So they are parquet-ceremonial generals for show! They are hung with orders and medals like at an exhibition of service dog breeding! A disgrace to the whole world! NATO is only afraid of nuclear weapons. Remove him from the Russian army, so what? It turns out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are practically the same force as the "second" army in the world! They don't want to fight for real in the Kremlin! Hence all these passages on television in the style of blah blah blah! I am your supporter, living thousands of kilometers from Russia. You must win - otherwise there will be a catastrophe for all mankind! Now not only the fate of Russia is being decided, the fate of the future world order is being decided - the future of mankind. And the power structures are full of thieves and traitors who deserve the death penalty for their deeds according to the laws of war! But the Kremlin authorities specifically came up with the name of the NWO so as not to introduce wartime laws into action! And the worst thing for the future is the freezing of hostilities on the current front line. This will be the official defeat of the Kremlin and the subsequent collapse of Russia according to the scenario of the collapse of the USSR! I wonder if at least someone in the Kremlin understands this?
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 November 2022 19: 20
      +5
      Quote: Joker62
      Mdya ... But Generalisimus A.V. Suvorov said in his "Science to win" - Fight with skill, not numbers!

      Suvorov fought in smaller numbers, but with close to full staff units - his regiments were really regiments. And we are squeezing a brigade group from a division drop by drop, which puts up active bayonets for 1-2 battalions in the field.
  7. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 22 November 2022 16: 39
    -1
    Have the CSTO been used before? Haven't heard anything about it.
    But there is the CSTO is much more powerful. Isn't it time to bang?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 22 November 2022 16: 45
      +3
      ODAB. There are also more powerful ones, but here the SU-34 was very risky, there could be MANPADS crews in the landing, at such a height 100% into the ground when hit. Burn out the landing with TOS ... yes, apparently there are not enough of them.
      1. Ded60
        Ded60 22 November 2022 17: 06
        +4
        Do you have any idea how an anti-aircraft gunner works? Do not make people laugh - "there could be MANPADS crews in the landing." Could be, only sense from them in landing zero.
        1. 28st region
          28st region 23 November 2022 15: 09
          +1
          The situation is of course very very difficult for both sides. But here's an example for you. Most recently, our Su-34 was shot down, a height of 50 meters was shot down in a similar situation ......
          Better watch the interview with the pilot and navigator. Surprisingly, they survived, ejected from a height of 20-30 meters, walked 50 km through enemy territory and left

          https://ok.ru/video/4103670729344
      2. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 22 November 2022 17: 55
        0
        Quote: Wedmak
        ODAB. There are also more powerful ones, but here the SU-34 was very risky, there could be MANPADS crews in the landing, at such a height 100% into the ground when hit. Burn out the landing with TOS ... yes, apparently there are not enough of them.

        Of course ODAB. Again, the proofreader is foolish.
  8. 4ekist
    4ekist 22 November 2022 16: 40
    +5
    We need a sniper, there is no need to let the enemy in at short distances.
  9. Bodipancher
    Bodipancher 22 November 2022 16: 41
    +2
    Normally, the Natsiks were crushed like that! More videos like this
  10. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 22 November 2022 16: 45
    +2
    It is possible to identify shortcomings from this battle - the small number of defending infantry and the use of free-falling bombs from low altitude.
    What is it about?
    From there, the first group of militants advanced, dismounting from MT-LB as they approached the positions of Russian troops.
    Branch, what forces...
    After its completion, the second group of militants went on the attack, reaching the Russian positions from the right flank.
    Also a department. fool request
  11. agoran
    agoran 22 November 2022 16: 46
    -2
    Aviation of the Russian Federation, how is it, but the Sumerians squealed that the aviation of the Russian Federation does not fly to LBS?
    1. vitvit123
      vitvit123 22 November 2022 16: 59
      +3
      I, too, "squealed", as you put it ... do you have other thoughts? Did you understand from this single video that we are filling up the entire LBS with fabs? Those. Kyiv, Izyum, Kupyansk, Kherson, and in general, does the fact that LBS exist tell you nothing?
      1. agoran
        agoran 22 November 2022 17: 19
        +1
        I don't even know how to answer you.
        Currently, the Russian Federation is able to destroy Kyiv without the use of nuclear weapons, the whole pile of broken bricks and concrete will remain. Without people, only cats, dogs and rats. Do you want that?
        1. vitvit123
          vitvit123 22 November 2022 17: 43
          +3
          Ours are also able to destroy Washington, London, Paris, Berlin, Tokyo, etc. ... Do you want that ?
          I just try to answer dope for dope!!
          And if you stop exaggerating and trying to stretch out extremes, then I want our planes to dominate the skies of Ukraine and bomb the enemy where he is ...
          About your Kyiv .., without tyao, we can’t destroy it! ... (stupid discussion) .. don’t you understand that there are many combat-ready Ukrainian fighters in other places besides Kyiv? Why don't our planes fly over the regions of Ukraine and bomb the enemy? Ukraine is big, there is where to fly !! They just don’t fly in Lviv, Zhytomyr, Dnepropetrovsk and in all other regions, and there are enemy units everywhere, PPD !!! Explain to me stupid why?
          1. agoran
            agoran 22 November 2022 18: 01
            -2
            For starters, be embarrassed.
            Then think about such a thought: the radius of work from the Crimea or Luninets. Further, why use something that the enemy's hand can't reach. That is, Tu-95s work quite well on territory 404.
            1. vitvit123
              vitvit123 22 November 2022 21: 34
              +1
              What makes you think that I'm worried?
              From the fact that I answer nonsense with nonsense?, so you are wrong, this is just the way that allows you to remain calm, having a discussion with similar arguments! After all, no aggression! So there is no need to pull the "owl on the globe"! ..
              Now about the essence of the dialogue... are you here or when? What does it have to do with our dialogue between Tu95 and missile launches far beyond LBS?

              Aviation of the Russian Federation, how is it, but the Sumerians squealed that the aviation of the Russian Federation does not fly to LBS?

              Did you write this? where does the tu95 fly on LBS? Where are any of our other planes flying over LBS? No need to step aside! .. you squealed that our aircraft flies over the LBS !!! Correctly ? , and I and others like me (as you put it) were squealing about the opposite .. and judging by your comments, it’s not at all clear what you are squealing about? So you decide whether our aviation flies over the LBS (as you said) or launches rockets from afar and does not fly over the LBS, as you said again!
              I won’t even compare the cost and effectiveness of rockets and fabs! ... I'm afraid I don’t understand the depth of your depths at all ... wink
    2. 28st region
      28st region 23 November 2022 15: 10
      0
      They take offense. Immediately throw minuses.
  12. Uprun
    Uprun 22 November 2022 16: 50
    +8
    It is difficult to comment on the video, but our grandfathers also fought in the trench warfare.
  13. garik77
    garik77 22 November 2022 16: 52
    +2
    Quote: agoran
    Aviation of the Russian Federation, how is it, but the Sumerians squealed that the aviation of the Russian Federation does not fly to LBS?

    It flies, but not much. Compare:
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 22 November 2022 16: 59
      +2
      Then there was no air defense system. Otherwise, this system would have been burning together on the ground. However, he sometimes burned, when he was very unlucky. Not all, but burned.
    2. agoran
      agoran 22 November 2022 17: 03
      0
      Everything depends on the leadership. ZB-500 will burn everything. When one was dropped at the Suur_Pakri training ground, the training ground team was in a wild ah .. amazement, the stones melted. There will be a team, the ZB-500 will also fly.
    3. marswell
      marswell 22 November 2022 20: 52
      0
      ... It flies, but not enough. Compare... Dresden?! Tokyo!? (((Not a particularly good example - impudent Saxons
  14. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
    Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 22 November 2022 17: 06
    +2
    The guys are incredibly cool cut! May God grant them military success and victories in all battles!
  15. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 22 November 2022 17: 11
    +12
    The BMP-shka drove up and calmly stood for some time, within the line of sight. Good target for Cornet. Wouldn't even get out. It seems that they are watching from the copter, but there is nothing to stop immediately. It came to trench shooting.
  16. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 22 November 2022 17: 17
    +2
    Let's go without slogans: Get off the couch and go to war. It seems to me that ours is just an advanced cover platoon.
  17. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 22 November 2022 17: 27
    -2
    It is possible to identify shortcomings from this battle - the small number of defending infantry

    Nine months after the start of the operation, the Russian infantry is "small" in comparison to the Ukrainian?!
    Despite the fact that the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are in no way less than the Russians, and the population of the Russian Federation is five times larger than the population of the residual Ukraine.
    I confess that the strategy of the Russian command is incomprehensible to my limited understanding.
  18. 2112vda
    2112vda 22 November 2022 17: 34
    +1
    And here there is an urgent need for their 60 mm mortars. We, as always, until the "fried rooster" pecks in one place, we will not move.
    1. agoran
      agoran 22 November 2022 17: 38
      0
      Today on TV Zvezda they showed the combat use of 2B9 "Cornflower".
      The first sighting, confirmation from the UAV, then the queue. Dill was mowed down.
      1. Vladimir80
        Vladimir80 22 November 2022 17: 43
        +1
        on TV, the star showed a lot of things, and they show "unparalleled" ... and you yourself saw the video from the front
        1. agoran
          agoran 22 November 2022 18: 04
          -3
          Well, minke whales have no "unparalleled", today an icebreaker was launched in St. Petersburg. Well, like a tractor.
  19. Evgeny_Sviridenko
    Evgeny_Sviridenko 22 November 2022 17: 35
    0
    Hmm. I will write again that I am not a military man. But what is the point in re-attacking positions already shot by artillery? Any factor of surprise is lost. I do not understand. Who will explain to me? For me, it’s so ordinary idiocy, not being treated ...
    1. agoran
      agoran 22 November 2022 17: 47
      -2
      I don’t understand why (but there is a thought) dill is driven to slaughter. The representative of the DPR was surprised that the Sumerians were over two hundred in position, new ones are running, and these, too, new ones are running, we don’t even need to change the sight on the guns.
  20. Alexey G
    Alexey G 22 November 2022 17: 40
    +3
    Yeah! We have little infantry, but its defense is not organized effectively.
    1. Observation ahead is weak! The enemy drove up to the very trenches, although he was supposed to receive a gift with an ATGM or RPG in armor. A sniper to remove the commander and machine gunner. After that, the machine gun and the AGS could solve everything without the help of aviation ...
    2. The front fighter of the LPR fought from behind the dugout without seeing anything in front of him and listening to the movement of the enemy, and then firing from the left shoulder while standing. This means that in the dugout there is no loophole ahead and the ability to effectively defend.
    3. The trenches, like all the defenses from above, are in a mess. Perhaps the fortifications themselves are Ukrainian and we inherited them, but there are no cells for shooters in them, and therefore the infantry in them is like potatoes in a garden. That is why our art worked very effectively. However, Ukrainian artillery in such trenches will also work. There are no mines ahead, no thorns!

    Conclusion. If the enemy attacks massively and decisively, he will occupy such a defense and drive out the few fighters. It's good that the enemy decided to sit on the spot, heaped up and let himself be smashed by artillery!
  21. Oleg . B.
    Oleg . B. 22 November 2022 17: 47
    +1
    dear writers, did you calculate how many troops there were and how many went into the forest? Count and understand everything.
  22. Mark68
    Mark68 22 November 2022 17: 49
    +2
    Strong video. It’s just that the LPR fortified area is somehow difficult to call a fortified area ...
  23. RED_ICE
    RED_ICE 22 November 2022 19: 32
    +4
    I don’t understand why the opornik is not reinforced with anti-tank weapons, armored vehicles? Ukrainians on a motorcycle league calmly drive up to the opornik, dismount and go into the trenches. Why was the motorcycle league not destroyed on the way? Judging by the video, the fighters of the nm lnr caused artillery fire on themselves when the battle was already in our trenches. And only then the artillery began to work and a tank drove up. It's all incomprehensible
    1. Sedoy
      Sedoy 22 November 2022 20: 47
      +2
      It's all incomprehensible

      I agree, from statutory military operations in "defense
      there is practically nothing on the attack ...
      everything looks like the Makhnovshchina - partisanism / sabotage ...
      there is clearly no front as such - stupidly oporniki ...
      it seems like there were no people, so there really isn’t ...
  24. Sedoy
    Sedoy 22 November 2022 20: 42
    0
    the retreating enemy forces were hit by a Su-34 bomber, which dropped ODAB-500 bombs from a low altitude, which finished off the enemy.

    finally showed the work of the bombers ...
    "we need to meet more often" ©
    "from a low altitude" - according to ODAB-500 and are dropped from a height of up to 1000m ...
    their trouble is a small radius - 30m
    those. need to be pretty accurate...
    There are "misunderstandings" in the video:
    the logistics center of dill was identified almost from the very beginning - why didn’t art or aviation immediately work on it ...
  25. dnestr74
    dnestr74 22 November 2022 21: 11
    +3
    What is most surprising is the small number of defenders and how calmly they drove up to the stronghold, also on the Niva .. Apparently they let it in on purpose, otherwise there is nothing to explain, again, not a single ATGM among the defenders (((bad
  26. Aleksandr09
    Aleksandr09 22 November 2022 21: 14
    -4
    Artillery, planes, mortars, drones are great. But until the soldier's boot sets foot on the ground, there will be no sense. This video clearly shows. that the basis is the infantry units. Namely, in them, our troops are far behind. And they mobilized a very limited number of 300 thousand against 1 million APU. Obviously a losing position.
    1. Glagol1
      Glagol1 23 November 2022 11: 02
      +1
      They don’t have 1 million. Even close, they themselves admit, 700 thousand, also a lot ...
  27. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 22 November 2022 21: 54
    0
    Impressive video. The Ukrainians suffered significant losses.
  28. Fangaro
    Fangaro 22 November 2022 22: 06
    +3
    At least block it, but this is not an article, but "you need to write quickly." And the video... Fully watched the video.
    The fortified area was not seen on the video.
    Didn't see any coherent action.

    Well, at least downvote and put an eternal ban, but ...
    In the video, both ours and opponents, those who are on the ground, motorized riflemen, are trying to kill everyone who is with a different ribbon. To survive on our own.
    There is no trench for 100 meters. There are cells for personal protection. How much you dug up - so much you will live.
    There is no organized attack. There is a sortie in the direction of the enemy.
    No shooting at detected enemy targets. There is a video from the air. For the hype, right?
    There is no artillery fire on the targets visible on the video, but there is a blow to the "Kruzak or Patriot", which has long been annihilated.
    And there is nothing in this video that would not reflect the trench NWO, but would raise the desire to participate in the movement towards our Victory.

    If there are directors here, recruit other screenwriters, please.
    1809
  29. Radikal
    Radikal 22 November 2022 22: 36
    +1
    Quote: 2112vda
    And here there is an urgent need for their 60 mm mortars. We, as always, until the "fried rooster" pecks in one place, we will not move.

    If you watch this video, other questions arise - where does our infantry have the good old AGS-17, GP-25, in the end, hand grenades? In the video, none of our shooters tried to use them, unlike the Ukrofascists - they threw a couple of grenades in our direction. And imagine that not ours, but their aircraft would appear over the battlefield, how would it all end? In general, the video is very depressing, to say the least ... . sad
  30. certero
    certero 23 November 2022 06: 02
    0
    Probably, it would be worth giving a link to the description of this in the source where it appeared. https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7989574.html
    There this fight is described in great detail. at the same time, you understand that our army is not provided with ATGMs at all, otherwise Ukrainian soldiers on a motorcycle league calmly come sitting on armor directly to the trenches.
    1. Shark Lover
      Shark Lover 23 November 2022 07: 58
      0
      Thanks for the link, I read it, really competent interaction.
  31. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 23 November 2022 06: 13
    +1
    The fighter who fought on the 3rd and 4th minutes of the video at the front post is a hero! Colleagues stood 30 meters from him, and enemies 20, I hope he survived
  32. Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 23 November 2022 07: 42
    -1
    In the video, Taras is sitting in a trench, with a mustache, scratching something there. What is this tarasyata thinking about? Why does it hate Russians so much that it is ready to die like this? Well, kill ours. Well, after all, they die, after all, 2 weeks give the term of life on the front lines of the Ukrainians (there are either 300 or 200)
  33. the same doctor
    the same doctor 23 November 2022 10: 16
    +1
    This is how clearly and convexly in the materials of the article we see the inferiority of the defensive tactics professed today by our Armed Forces. To defeat the attacking units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in anticipation of their strike, it is necessary to keep huge amounts of artillery and ammunition along the entire front, which simply no longer exist.
    It is more profitable and cheaper to attack: troops, equipment and ammunition do not stand idle, waiting for the ukrov attack.
    As long as we, judging by the article, have some advantage in art, we need to use it. It is necessary to scout for concentrations of ukrov, create an artillery fist against them and destroy them. It is impossible to have enough weapons along the entire front to repel the attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in any place. But it is possible to have a reconnaissance and strike fist of artillery with drones, which will thin out the population of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, wandering along the front.
    This requires, above all, a political decision by the Kremlin. Our troops are stubbornly instilled with false humanism and the priority of destroying equipment, not people. But war is the destruction of precisely the enemy’s troops; without this, one cannot win.
    The only criterion for success is the destruction of the fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Not tanks, not helicopters - just a warrior. And here I will re-share an observation on March 22nd. If we divide our expenses for the dead militants coming out, then the figure goes off scale for a million. dollars. For one. Therefore, any weapons that kill cheaper are justified and effective. In the spring, I wrote about civilian quadrocopters for 70 rubles. In March, 000 of these grenade toys would solve the problem. A thousand dollars for one murder. But then Putin forbade killing ukrov...
    .
    Today the situation has changed a bit. It seems that you can kill ukrov. But again, only attackers. The Kremlin should change its position and motivate the troops to destroy any ukrovoyak within reach. Don't wait for him to start shooting at you, but: "See? Can you? Kill!"
    And you can destroy equipment, it seems. Why they still require powerful, long-range and expensive drones for guaranteed destruction of the same tank.
    In fact, we need, first of all, something different and better, cheap drones, with a range of a kilometer or two, and a lot, one or two for each ukrovoin. Ideally, with a volumetric explosion grenade, without fragments to compensate for the lack of accuracy in pointing and bypassing the protection of bulletproof vests.
    Tanks without infantry can also be destroyed with existing equipment with minimal drone support.
  34. Glagol1
    Glagol1 23 November 2022 10: 57
    0
    Unfortunately, the use of OFAB is very rare. They mainly work as nurses from a roll-up, accuracy plus or minus a kilometer, the power of ammunition is weak, the cost of hitting a target is cosmic. One sortie costs a ton of money. Here OFAB-250/500 is really powerful, but only “it sees the eye, but the tooth is numb” - the military air defense destroyed three times by Konashenkov does not allow bombing the square ...
  35. Thrush
    Thrush 23 November 2022 12: 56
    0
    After watching the video, I was once again convinced that a quadrocopter plus communication in modern warfare is as necessary as air. Efficiency increases exponentially.
    I also noticed that the soldier knows that the enemy is sitting in a nearby trench, he practically does not use grenades. Maybe it's just not enough?
  36. 28st region
    28st region 23 November 2022 15: 15
    +1
    The battlefield is a funnel on a funnel, how much ammunition exploded there. It's creepy. During the exercises, the S-75 rocket went without control, along the ballistic one and exploded. B / h 70 kg looked from afar, but the fountain of the explosion was impressive and after they looked what they had done there. And then the FAB-500, and even two pieces were put almost next to each other.
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 23 November 2022 15: 21
      +2
      Quote: 28st region
      The battlefield is a funnel on a funnel, how much ammunition exploded there.

      The sight is not for the faint of heart. The field is all in funnels, the positions are collapsed, it seems that nothing alive should survive there.
  37. BUMER
    BUMER 24 November 2022 20: 24
    0
    It seems that ODAB 500 bangs more powerfully. I remember in Syria.