The American press discusses the execution of Russian prisoners of war by Ukrainian militants

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The American press discusses the execution of Russian prisoners of war by Ukrainian militants

After video footage of the murder of Russian servicemen surrendering to the Ukrainian army in Makeevka appeared on the Internet, a corresponding reaction from the Western press followed. The New York Times questioned whether the Ukrainian militants committed a war crime or acted within their charter.

According to the American edition, the video footage shows horrifying footage of the massacre of 11 Russians. According to the Ukrainian press, which at first generally wrote about "mortar shelling", they were shot after one of the surrendering soldiers suddenly opened fire on the Ukrainian soldiers standing nearby. It's just not clear, and here are those who have already surrendered and lay on the ground. How can this justify the execution of the prisoners who are lying...

Russia has accused the Ukrainian side of committing war crimes, including the ruthless massacre of unarmed Russian prisoners of war. The Kyiv regime had to put up not even a government official or a general, but a commissioner for human rights, Dmitry Lubinets, as an explanation. He stated that the Russians allegedly opened fire on the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during their surrender.

However, the UN Human Rights Office has already stated that the incident needs to be investigated as soon as possible. The perpetrators, according to the UN, should be held accountable. After all, the Russian fighters were “put out of action”, and this term refers to people who are unarmed or not participating in hostilities.

The New York Times determined that the video footage was indeed taken in Makiivka, located in the Lugansk People's Republic.

According to Dr. Rohini Haar, medical adviser to Physicians for Human Rights, most of the Russian military in the horrific video footage were shot in the head. Judging by the pools of blood, they were simply left there dead, no one tried to help them, even if someone was still alive. Dr. Haar also notes that Russian soldiers were lying without weapons, with hands behind head or hands on the ground. This indicates that they could no longer be considered "combatants" and had the status of prisoners of war.

Iva Vukusic, an expert on war crimes prosecution at Utrecht University, believes that if the Russian military was shot after the threat was neutralized, as an act of revenge, then this is certainly a war crime. If they were shot during return fire, then this cannot be called a crime. Such an interpretation...

The New York Times also reports that earlier UN experts have already documented cases of torture of Russian prisoners of war by Ukrainian soldiers. True, the American publication would not be American if it forgot to emphasize that the Russian military supposedly still “mock” the captured Ukrainians and even civilians more. In general, it is obvious that the Western press is trying to smooth over the negative impression of the incident on the world community. Hence the reasoning in the article about crimes allegedly committed by the Russian side.

Such a position clearly demonstrates a genuine, and not feigned, interest in "human rights" in the West. These rights exist when they are beneficial to the West. Otherwise, you can turn a blind eye to anything - and the actions of Augusto Pinochet, and the destruction of a million Indonesian communists and members of their families Suharto, and SS ranks who did not suffer punishment and lived out in the USA or countries of South America. We see the same approach today, only with respect to Ukraine and the crimes committed by its militants.
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  1. +7
    21 November 2022 09: 40
    When the Nazis pay, they will pay for this too.
    1. +41
      21 November 2022 09: 45
      They also talked about Azov in the summer. Has anything changed since then?
      1. +30
        21 November 2022 09: 49
        They also talked about Azov in the summer. Has anything changed since then?

        Changed! they were released...
        1. +16
          21 November 2022 10: 05
          so someone got paid...
          1. 0
            21 November 2022 10: 35
            Quote: novel xnumx
            so someone got paid...

            Paid. In exchange, the certificates gave our guys who were captured by the Nazis! I wish I could give you to the Nazis for a month .... I'm sure they would agree to give the Pope and the Mother of God for themselves in return!
            1. +20
              21 November 2022 10: 54
              ready to give the pope for any of our fighters, do I feel sorry for him
              1. +14
                21 November 2022 11: 00
                The American press discusses the execution of Russian prisoners of war by Ukrainian militants

                Remind historical parallels with similar executions by the Nazis of Soviet prisoners of war during the Second World War. Namely.

                After it became known about the atrocities of the Nazis over Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, Stalin ordered no one to be taken prisoner from the 332nd regiment, commanded by Lieutenant Colonel Rüderer.
                As a result of this order in the 332nd regiment from those who were near Moscow, participated in the execution of Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, only a few people survived ...
                Having learned that in front of them stands the regiment of the executioner Ruderer, who executed Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, the soldiers swore not to leave alive any of the warriors of this accursed regiment. In the battles near the village of Verdino German regiment of executioners our Zoya was finally destroyed. Hundreds of Nazi corpses remained in broken bunkers and trenches.
                See details - https://back-in-ussr.com/2016/05/332-polk-vermahta-v-plen-ne-brat.html?ysclid=laqggz7ko471312989
                1. +2
                  21 November 2022 11: 02
                  something like an order is not heard from ours ... humanity?
                  1. +6
                    21 November 2022 11: 51
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    something like an order is not heard from ours ... humanity?

                    No one will blow it to the whole world, this is a war crime, as it were. The soldiers will simply be told who is standing against them and what they did.
                    1. +9
                      21 November 2022 17: 15
                      Ukrainians, of course, not from a great mind posted this on the network ..

                      Most likely the fact is that they do not consider it a crime. On the contrary, it is a heroic deed.
                  2. -3
                    21 November 2022 15: 05
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    something like an order is not heard from ours ... humanity?

                    Connection numbers do not match! There was the 332nd regiment, and here is a brigade with a different number.
                    And so, of course, the Kremlin would have reacted!
                  3. 0
                    22 November 2022 08: 08
                    such an order is not necessary, everyone decides for himself whether he can or not, whether he accepts it on his own conscience, or wants to shift it to the conscience of another, so in everything, one goes to defend the Motherland, and the other looks for mistakes in the actions of the first.
                2. +1
                  22 November 2022 09: 17
                  The crime must be punished. But where did it come from? Has anyone thought about this? What are our and their commanders brought up on? Recall the film with Kravchenko "Come and See" the final scene of the murder of SS men and punishers under the bridge. From my point of view, everything is fair. A dog's death to a dog. But... Everyone there was unarmed. You will tell me that you cannot compare the vile SS men and punishers with ours. It is forbidden. We can not! And in the head of a standard ideological sushnik, a positive emotion from a film about just retribution is combined with an ideological attitude that the enemy has come to our land and (alas, this is a feature of the Russian mentality) he must be destroyed at any cost, gives a poisonous mixture of "righteous revenge". And crimes start to happen. It’s good that modern Nazi ideologists did not justify the crimes of the APU in this way. And we, nevertheless, continue to step on the same ideological rake. We do not take films about the Patriotic War, where the commander, in response to the unwillingness of the prisoner to give information, orders to "shoot". A film with the same Kravchenko "The Best in Hell". The natural work of the group is shown. The passage through the building breaks the wall and the "Control" command, after which all the opponents along the way are single-handedly achieved. From a tactical point of view, absolutely true. You can not leave a wounded enemy behind your back. And from the point of view of the convention on prisoners of war?
                  Can you imagine how this moment could be promoted in the media if our soldiers were given gopros for helmets and were not forbidden to post their actions on the network?
                  Why is this all me. My position is that the creatures that killed the unarmed, surrendered, our soldiers, must be destroyed. But the Creatures who found in the Russian soul of a Ukrainian a string about an "enemy on their own land" must also be destroyed. Well, or if it leads to the destruction of the whole world, at least they are recognized not as friendly countries, but specifically as enemy states. With all the consequences. The complete absence of trade relations, business ties. Recognition as enemies of the state of all those who live with Russian citizenship or have property with enemies. And until this happens, many will not believe that our war is the second Patriotic War.
                  1. +4
                    22 November 2022 11: 03
                    But where did it come from? Has anyone thought about this? What are our and their commanders brought up on? Let's remember the movie

                    What did you want to say? our commanders were brought up on Soviet films, "Officers", "Only old men go into battle", "They fought for the Motherland", "Aty-bats walked a soldier" and other wonderful films of Soviet directors who know firsthand about the Second World War, and you bring an example of some third-rate films shot by unknown directors, according to the script and based on unknown and far-fetched plots ....
                    And what the Ukrainians were brought up on, then there is no need to go far, they have idols Hitler, Bandera, Shukhevych, German Nazis - and they act in the likeness of their idols ...
              2. +3
                21 November 2022 15: 10
                Quote: novel xnumx
                ready to give the pope for any of our fighters, do I feel sorry for him

                Here ! Think right...
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            3. +9
              21 November 2022 14: 56
              Quote: 30 vis
              Paid. In exchange, the certificates gave our guys who were captured by the Nazis!

              Ukrainian oligarch Medvedchuk, what does it have to do with our guys. For him gave the leaders of the Azov. A cage has already been built for them in the courtroom in the DPR. And Abramovich took them to resorts in Turkey.
            4. +4
              21 November 2022 15: 13
              In fact, our captured servicemen were precisely servicemen. And to change, if this matter has already become such a widespread "practice", they had to be exchanged precisely on the principle of "equivalence" of the exchange - for the so-called military personnel. "AFU", and not against the Nazis - punishers, against whom the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation and the prosecutor's offices of the DPR and LPR officially opened criminal cases for committing war crimes and crimes against the civilian population ...
            5. 0
              22 November 2022 14: 58
              And also a citizen of Ukraine and possibly Putin's godfather.
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      2. +5
        21 November 2022 15: 39
        The journalist Pyotr Lidov wrote an article about the feat and cruel death of the Komsomol member Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya.
        The whole country shook.
        Stalin ordered the soldiers of the 332nd regiment of the Wehrmacht under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Rüderer not to be taken prisoner.
        The soldiers swore to it.
        Soon the regiment was defeated.
        The officer filming the moments of the execution was killed. In his field bag, they found the negatives and photos from the crime scene.
        Our survivors did not leave anyone, neither privates nor officers.
        After a short interrogation, they were all placed against the wall.
        They also executed the headman of the village of Petrishchevo, a servant of the Nazis who took part in the execution of Zoya.
        We need to tell our guys the unit number and the names of the Bandera killers.
        Yes, and tell what happens when the Nazis take you prisoner! am
      3. +1
        22 November 2022 08: 48
        Quote: Pereira
        Has anything changed since then?

        Has changed. In some cases, the desire to take them prisoner disappeared. Especially the composition, a priori poorly informed.
    2. +9
      21 November 2022 09: 45
      At this time, they will already be somewhere in Canada, they love them there
      1. +9
        21 November 2022 10: 06
        under Stalin, this was not an obstacle
        1. +12
          21 November 2022 10: 18
          Stalin is no more... Now these geeks are not afraid of anything. Unfortunately. Apparently they know that they will be ransomed if they are captured. They know that our captives will not behave like that with them.
          But they must be punished for such atrocity.
          1. +6
            21 November 2022 11: 04
            and it would be nice for the whole brigade, eh, the air defense is not suppressed, it would be nice to cover them with a "carpet" of 500 ok
        2. 0
          21 November 2022 20: 58
          If under Stalin this was not an obstacle, then where did a bunch of shortcomings come from in Canada? It's not worth it. On the territory of the USSR, yes, they searched and found. Abroad, I do not remember this.
      2. +12
        21 November 2022 10: 12
        If you announce that with 80 ODSHB Ukrofascists do not take anyone prisoner ... maybe your own will strangle these ghouls faster ...?
        1. +1
          21 November 2022 10: 41
          Maybe the musicians should be sent, they are not very subordinate to the parquet.
        2. +6
          21 November 2022 15: 00
          Quote: megadeth
          maybe their own will strangle these ghouls faster ...?

          Why would they be killed by their own. So big and believe in fairy tales. Did anyone find those Nazis who shot at the legs of our prisoners in the video? So it will be with these, they will talk and everything will calm down on this.
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    3. +7
      21 November 2022 09: 51
      Quote: Wend
      When the Nazis pay, they will pay for this too.

      When?! After the Azov people pay?!
      Those who shot the Israeli Olympic team paid ...
      The American press discusses the execution of Russian prisoners of war by Ukrainian militants

      Some bastards understand the actions of others ...
      I don't believe Russia doesn't have the money to encourage liquidation specialists...
      1. +2
        21 November 2022 10: 07
        having your own staff and hire killers? it's strange
      2. +9
        21 November 2022 10: 14
        I don't believe Russia doesn't have the money to encourage liquidation specialists...

        There are enough funds. Such tasks are not set for specialists.
        1. +8
          21 November 2022 10: 35
          Quote: Mikhail Sidorov
          There are enough funds. Such tasks are not set for specialists.

          Then our commanders must tell the commanders of various ranks that such cases cannot be left without consequences ... Let them remember that the Russian soldier is not cannon fodder !!! What is more precious for the commander of soldiers than various godfathers ...
          1. +3
            21 November 2022 16: 36
            Such a decision could be made or not taken only by the Commander-in-Chief. And all this verbiage about the Russian power-oligarchic elite is useless. Only he is responsible for all miscalculations and failure to take action in this SVO. undertook to carry this heavy burden of the Civil Code himself.
      3. +12
        21 November 2022 10: 34
        There is no desire or intention to avenge their soldiers! The slogan "there are a lot of women in Russia - they still give birth to soldiers" in action! And what do you want, who from the Russian ruling oligarchic elite has at least someone serving in the army at all? It’s generally better not to talk about not up to the war with the idiotic name of the NWO! What protection of the Russian-speaking population is a lie! Pan Ze promised the US and NATO military bases on the shores of the Sea of ​​Azov and near the borders with Russia, and they joyfully rang out that they would put batteries of cruise missiles with nuclear warheads there! Only a mistake came out in the Kremlin because of the hatred of the lackey intelligence elite, who forgot about 30 years of cultivating Ukronazism and the mediocrity of the parquet-ceremonial generals! As a result, instead of the operation to annex the Crimea, for the same reasons, Russia received a repetition of 1941. Please note that I am a supporter of Russia living thousands of kilometers away from you! And how disgusting it is to listen to the continuous whining on Russian television about bad Western "partners"! For successful treatment of the disease, it is necessary to make the correct diagnosis. Russia does not have and never had Western partners, but there always have been, are and will be Western enemies, who can only be kept in fear by the military power of Russia and the inevitability of bloody retribution for any attempt of military aggression against Russia. But when the main force in the country is a treacherous and thieving oligarchy... It becomes a very difficult thing!
        1. +1
          21 November 2022 15: 17
          "The slogan "there are a lot of women in Russia - they still give birth to soldiers" in action!"
          ************************************************** ****************************************
          Whose "slogan" is this, if not a secret?..
          1. +2
            22 November 2022 03: 52
            This is the slogan of idiots. I doubt that after SUCH statements Georgy Konstantinovich would become a folk hero.
            And now I would also like to look at the original source or a link to it, if there is one in nature at all.
    4. +12
      21 November 2022 10: 07
      When the Nazis pay, they will pay for this too.

      Do you really believe in this? For 8 years, hundreds of children were bombed by the LDNR, and whoever suffered personal punishment for this? So there are a lot of questions here. How did a whole platoon get surrounded and why did they lay down their arms?
      1. +2
        21 November 2022 10: 41
        Quote: private person
        When the Nazis will pay

        As long as such countries as the USA and Great Britain exist, until then articles will appear in which the authors will only make "amazing discoveries"
        ... rights exist when they are beneficial to the West. Otherwise, you can turn a blind eye to anything

        Unfortunately, the colonial and slave-owning mentality of the Western "partners" does not teach us anything even to our politicians. So they buy the conscience of politicians.
    5. -1
      21 November 2022 17: 11
      I am sure that all war criminals will be found and will pay for their crimes, or they will be destroyed - by artillery or in battle, it doesn't matter.
  2. +33
    21 November 2022 09: 45
    And throw rotten tomatoes at me, but how did it happen that ours meekly surrender? No sign of a shootout. I don't want to guess, but the impression is very bad. Like heifers in a slaughterhouse.
    1. +4
      21 November 2022 10: 08
      especially since there is often nothing good to expect
    2. +17
      21 November 2022 10: 13
      I ask the same question. Were they so weak in spirit that they did not resist? 11 armed soldiers of the mountain could turn.
    3. +4
      21 November 2022 10: 16
      And throw rotten tomatoes at me, but how did it happen that ours meekly surrender?

      I can assume that the ammunition has run out. For modern combat, more than one kilogram of bk is needed.
    4. -1
      21 November 2022 10: 17
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      But how did it happen that ours meekly surrender?

      Like this:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OUX_kfQqoI
      1. +4
        21 November 2022 10: 42
        Like this:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OUX_kfQqoI

        Yes, there seems to be shooting going on if you believe the video before surrendering. And the day is bright, we didn’t sleep for sure.
    5. +7
      21 November 2022 10: 19
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And throw rotten tomatoes at me, but how did it happen that ours meekly surrender? No sign of a shootout. I don't want to guess, but the impression is very bad. Like heifers in a slaughterhouse.

      I have one explanation, they probably knew about the exchanges of prisoners and hoped that they would also be exchanged.
    6. +1
      21 November 2022 10: 38
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      I don't want to guess, but the impression is very bad. Like heifers in a slaughterhouse.

      The watch (guard) was most likely dry. They overslept the enemies ... They took our warm, sleepy ones ...
      1. +2
        21 November 2022 11: 02
        Quote: 30 vis
        The watch (guard) was most likely dry. They overslept the enemies ... They took our warm, sleepy ones ...

        If at all guards were put up ... They crowded into the house to bask. They got cold ... DRGs tied them up, warm. Like they gathered for a tour, a picnic ...
  3. +1
    21 November 2022 09: 47
    Another fact in the piggy bank for the future. How are they going to normalize relations with us after such carte blanches with their proxies?
  4. +24
    21 November 2022 09: 52
    1. How many write that they surrendered without a fight, why? I understand sitting in a warm place is easy to argue, but still.
    2. Why did this happen? Why was there no one around, no support, just nothing!!! they just killed our guys, and our leadership will only know about it from the video in the cart. Moreover, this is not near Kyiv, but in the LPR, supposedly our territory
    3. And again, snot, no action, killed our guys, turn half of Lviv into ruins, it will happen again, half of Kyiv into ruins, and so on. this is the only way with these cattle, they are no longer people.
    1. +6
      21 November 2022 10: 30
      Quote from Daishi
      half of Kyiv in ruins and so on. this is the only way with these cattle, they are no longer people.

      Yes, at least the well-known administrative buildings on Bankovaya and the structures of the Moscow Region ...
      Zelensky is walking around Kherson and we don’t have a single free Smerch or Iskander ... Where are these Zircons?
  5. +18
    21 November 2022 09: 53
    What a bad and slavish habit our powerful people have to look back and join the West. They despise the weak. And what difference does it make what they think or say? All those non-humans who maim, torture and kill captured soldiers must be mercilessly and revealingly destroyed without looking back at anyone, so that others do not have a desire to repeat such actions.
    1. +7
      21 November 2022 10: 18
      Quote: Stas
      What a bad and slavish habit our powerful people have to look back and join the West. They despise the weak. And what difference does it make what they think or say? All those non-humans who maim, torture and kill captured soldiers must be mercilessly and revealingly destroyed without looking back at anyone, so that others do not have a desire to repeat such actions.

      That's why they go to the west, there are children, real estate, bills! And who should our elite look to? For a bath?
    2. +2
      21 November 2022 10: 42
      Quote: Stas
      What a bad and slavish habit our powerful people have to look back and join the West. They despise the weak. And what difference does it make what they think or say?

      American crocodile tears of regret A crocodile cries over its prey during a meal. . False, not sincere, like their false face-to-face smiles ...
  6. +11
    21 November 2022 09: 55
    And how do you like these shots of bullying our prisoners of war. I read that the DPR people carry a grenade with them so as not to be captured. Apparently soon all our fighters will do this

    Another video of the ill-treatment of Russian prisoners of war by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This can be corrected only by the complete and final destruction of the Ukrainian state.

    https://ok.ru/video/4108480547456
    1. -1
      21 November 2022 10: 44
      Quote: YOUR
      This can be corrected only by the complete and final destruction of the Ukrainian state.

      Ukraine as a state no longer exists. Now, on its ruins, the Intermarium superstate is being formed from the Baltic to the Adriatic on the basis of Poland. This is an old development of Pilsudski and Co. for the destruction of Russia, which was used by Hitler.
      It is still unknown who shot the "Russian prisoners of war." Perhaps they were NATO fighters, for example, Poles or Lithuanians.
  7. +16
    21 November 2022 09: 56
    But let our leadership often let the Ukronatsiks go home - it will not be yet. For to prevent this - can only be aware of the inevitability of punishment. And what inevitability is there, if they are already laughing out loud above us, remembering the tattered vests about the Azov people and mercenaries, and - what came out of this for testing. What another disgrace..
    1. +11
      21 November 2022 10: 29
      The first trial of war criminals from the nationalist Azov Regiment* (a terrorist group banned in Russia) will take place before the end of summer in Mariupol. This was reported by Denis Pushilin
      https://topwar.ru/200125-pushilin-podtverdil-provedenie-pervogo-tribunala-nad-voennymi-prestupnikami-iz-azova-do-konca-leta.html
      August 10 2022

      Well ???
      What I never liked in our state, neither under Leonid Ilyich, nor under Vladimir Vladimirovich, is that people never tell the truth. The official media are silent. Tradition - s.
    2. +1
      21 November 2022 16: 22
      I agree with you, Pavel. All that this oligarchic-clan power is capable of is to lie and steal... DO NOT fight!!!
  8. 0
    21 November 2022 09: 59
    What do you want from the United States, the man who told about the war crimes of the Americans, Julian Asanj, is sitting and waiting for trial. The British could not extradite him for health reasons. And we won’t give him a chair, but simply solder 175 years in prison. They are white and fluffy “Elves.” Since they are with us, maybe we should stop showing captured mercenaries.
    1. +1
      21 November 2022 10: 24
      Recently, 7 Poles were disposed of in a conveyor. none left. three inside and four near him.
      1. +2
        21 November 2022 10: 59
        It is a pity that the Poles do not come from the same locality. 7 coffins in front of the growing one would be effective.
  9. 0
    21 November 2022 10: 02
    All the fuss is because it got on camera.. The guys just got unlucky to get on the wrong ones..
    And then I watched interviews with our fighters from high-profile units who calmly said that they did not take prisoners, otherwise there was a lot of trouble with them ..
  10. +5
    21 November 2022 10: 08
    A lesson to our fighters, to fight to the last bullet, Prigozhin correctly said, a pass for captivity, two grenades ...
    In our generation of servicemen, the issue of surrender was not even discussed.
    And now, who to give up? Bandera? Wahabis? Mercenaries in their service? They will remove the skin from a living person and push mounting foam into all the holes, and castration is their norm ...
    I think that now there will be fewer prisoners of Bandera scum!
  11. +12
    21 November 2022 10: 21
    It's not even funny, to whom our politicians complain about the crimes of the UPA, to those who stuff Ukraine with weapons to kill Russian soldiers? Catch ten shlyakhs and arrogant Saxons (I think they have already been caught), publicly condemn them for mercenarism and hang them, then we will hear a terrible howl about conventions, humanity, etc., etc.
  12. +5
    21 November 2022 10: 36
    This is not "interest", this is the promotion of "best practices". Complaining to the UN, the OSCE and other "bodies" that the Russian Federation has joined to milk is pointless and even harmful.
    Someone said that the Vietnamese allegedly fight in silence. This is right.
  13. +1
    21 November 2022 10: 41
    After video footage of the murder of Russian servicemen surrendering to the Ukrainian army appeared on the Internet in Makeevka
    So, it turns out that the Ukrainians recently occupied Makiivka?
    1. 0
      21 November 2022 14: 04
      there are several make-ups, this one is in the gray zone.
  14. +1
    21 November 2022 11: 33
    There is no need to rely on the UN .... you need to create a situation so that the enemy is interested in protecting our captured fighters.
  15. +2
    21 November 2022 11: 39
    We see the same approach today, only in relation to Ukraine and the crimes committed by its militants.

    A raven will not peck out a crow's eye. request
  16. +1
    21 November 2022 12: 39
    Stand orders, take no prisoners. And let the female dogs shake. Enough humanism already.
  17. 0
    21 November 2022 15: 31
    You are stupid, Ukronazis are criminals in a circle, they rebelled against the legitimate authority of their legitimate president Yanukovych Ze and Potoroh separatists.
  18. 0
    21 November 2022 16: 29
    The conclusion is simple - Bandera is better not to give up.
  19. 0
    21 November 2022 16: 45
    Quote: private person
    How did a whole platoon get surrounded and why did they lay down their arms?

    Will we ever find out about this......? Perhaps the guys in this platoon could go to fight for a small share, and not for their homeland, family .... Therefore, surrender was the norm for them .... The media will still lie to us. Only speculation remains. Here the "political instructors" need to do the right job with the HP. that's for sure. Or maybe the priest will wave the censer ....
  20. 0
    21 November 2022 16: 48
    here it is worth discussing how well-armed well-equipped (all in armor) surrendered, apparently not larger than their enemy group, and there was one who retained honor. His identity must be identified and awarded the Star of the Hero posthumously.
  21. 0
    21 November 2022 17: 23
    Once again it is confirmed that this is a Russia-NATO battle! Therefore, they have no reason to tell the truth. The entire west is decommissioned, fake and fascist! They don't have the character or the IQ to tell the truth! But, fortunately, now the world knows where to look for the truth!
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  23. +2
    21 November 2022 20: 02
    It is immediately clear that Ukraine is Europe. For Europeans, the execution of prisoners is a familiar activity. I would say traditional. The Swedes killed, or rather tortured, about four thousand Russians who surrendered in a similar manner to the customs of that time near Fraustadt, Napoleon shot about the same number of captured Turks in Egypt.
    Here are such lace panties!
  24. +2
    21 November 2022 20: 21
    According to the Ukrainian press, which at first generally wrote about "mortar shelling", they were shot after one of the surrendering soldiers suddenly opened fire on the Ukrainian soldiers standing nearby. It's just not clear, and here are those who have already surrendered and lay on the ground. How can this justify the execution of the prisoners who are lying...

    doesn't justify...
    but the video raises questions...
    why more than 10 people ended up in one "barn"?
    what were they doing hiding there?
    why didn’t they fight - the bk ended?
    all at once and in one place?
    they came out and looked "healthy" - ie. agreed to surrender?
    the dill behind the scenes says something like: "here we collect the exchange fund" - i.e. weren't they going to be shot?
    who came out last, apparently threw a grenade - because. on the video there is an explosion, after which they show a wounded dill and the question "Andryukha, how are you?"
    those. agreed to surrender, and then one explosion provoked the execution?
    ----
    I think that if the dill had surrendered, and then thrown a grenade at ours, they would hardly have been spared either ...
    In short, according to the video, not one, but several crimes ...
    and you need to start disassembling from the surrender - it looks strange ...
    1. 0
      21 November 2022 21: 01
      Here, the thought is unobtrusively suggested: they themselves are to blame, because they threw a grenade! .. This is exactly what the Ukrainian side voiced. Pan, you have a sedentary sticking out of the monitor.
      1. -1
        22 November 2022 20: 52
        it sticks out of your ass...
        this is already being voiced not only by the Ukropov side, but by the entire western side ...
        which sent all the appeals of our heads to the so-called. "world community"...
        openly and sent - they themselves committed a crime ...
        I am interested in one thing in this video - the reasons for surrendering ...
        it hurts too "with a smell" ...
  25. +1
    21 November 2022 21: 28
    It's time to draw conclusions about partners and their minions and take adequate measures. An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth.
  26. 0
    22 November 2022 02: 24
    Our government is again chewing snot, instead of inflicting a powerful blow on Ukrainians
  27. 0
    22 November 2022 04: 51
    Until an international military tribunal appears in Moscow within the framework of the CSTO and the SCO, we will continue to "wine"
  28. 0
    22 November 2022 06: 22
    Bandera has no brains at all, now even fewer of them will reach captivity, they will be lost along the way.
  29. 0
    22 November 2022 07: 05
    Do not take fighters 80 ODSHB into captivity. Bring down reptiles on the spot without trial or investigation.
  30. +1
    22 November 2022 07: 31
    But I'm the only one who cares about the question why 11 healthy foreheads surrendered without a fight to the 3rd Ukrofascists? What did they expect from them? Gorilki with bacon?
  31. 0
    22 November 2022 10: 12
    Quote: Tatiana
    The American press discusses the execution of Russian prisoners of war by Ukrainian militants

    Remind historical parallels with similar executions by the Nazis of Soviet prisoners of war during the Second World War. Namely.

    After it became known about the atrocities of the Nazis over Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, Stalin ordered no one to be taken prisoner from the 332nd regiment, commanded by Lieutenant Colonel Rüderer.
    As a result of this order in the 332nd regiment from those who were near Moscow, participated in the execution of Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, only a few people survived ...
    Having learned that in front of them stands the regiment of the executioner Ruderer, who executed Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, the soldiers swore not to leave alive any of the warriors of this accursed regiment. In the battles near the village of Verdino German regiment of executioners our Zoya was finally destroyed. Hundreds of Nazi corpses remained in broken bunkers and trenches.
    See details - https://back-in-ussr.com/2016/05/332-polk-vermahta-v-plen-ne-brat.html?ysclid=laqggz7ko471312989

    Why pull all these fairy tales here? There was no order from Stalin, they took prisoners for themselves.
    The answer to the execution of those who surrendered should not be in the execution of all those captured by us, but in the mandatory search for those responsible for the crime and punishing them. No matter how much time has passed.
    A good example in this regard is Israel
  32. +1
    22 November 2022 11: 41
    It is strange when some methods are discussed in the war - a priori war is cruelty where the price is your life and the lives of loved ones.
  33. -1
    22 November 2022 21: 10
    In order for the enemy to pay for something, we need will on our part.
    To influence the actions (yes, butter) of the enemy, publicity is needed.
    By order ... from ... for ... is established ...
    This is a double-edged decision, but all of Russia, Ukraine and the entire planet will know about the goals.
    Or chipboard for individual units. with accurate data. And obligatory informing the media about the completed task.
    One was reported today.

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