Finland announced the purchase of an additional batch of self-propelled guns K9 Thunder

Finland is purchasing an additional batch of South Korean self-propelled howitzers K9 Thunder, the total number of South Korean howitzers in the Finnish army should reach almost a hundred units.

The Finnish Ministry of Defense continues to withdraw from the army outdated Soviet 122-mm self-propelled howitzers 122 PSH 74 (Soviet Gvozdika), purchased in 1992 from the presence of the army of the former GDR in the amount of 72 units, replacing them with South Korean self-propelled guns K9 Thunder. According to the press service of the Finnish military department, Helsinki is buying another 38 self-propelled howitzers for 134,4 million euros. The package also includes logistics.

After the implementation of the contract, the number of K9 Thunder self-propelled guns in the Finnish army will reach 96 units. The first contract for the purchase of 48 units of 155-mm / 52 K9 Thunder self-propelled howitzers from the presence of the South Korean army was signed by the Finnish Ministry of Defense in February 2017. In addition to the howitzers themselves, it included training, the supply of spare parts and service support. The contract included an option to purchase an additional batch of K9 howitzers.

Howitzers K9 Thunder Moukari (Finnish name) are gradually replacing the obsolete Soviet 122-mm self-propelled howitzers 122 PSH 74 (Soviet Gvozdika) in the Finnish Defense Forces. The K9 Thunder is a 155mm self-propelled artillery mount that began development in 1989. After 10 years, self-propelled guns began to enter the South Korean army. The gun is capable of hitting targets at a distance of over 40 km (when using Excalibur shells - over 50 km).

All South Korean howitzers arriving in Finland are handed over to Millog Oy, which installs Finnish equipment on them, which is not specified, and repaints them before being handed over to the military.

Comments

[tralflot1832]

What kind of wunderhowitzer did the Koreans create, it sells like hot cakes. Is there anything American in it? The US military-industrial complex cannot be without a gesheft, with this howitzer.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: tralflot1832

What kind of wunderhowitzer did the Koreans create, it sells like hot cakes. Is there anything American in it? The US military-industrial complex cannot be without a gesheft, with this howitzer.

Of course there is. There are a lot of American components in the LMS.

[Murmur 55]

Aaron Zawi , there’s another question, but the Finns themselves will rivet the shells or have to buy from NATO.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Murmur 55

Aaron Zawi , there’s another question, but the Finns themselves will rivet the shells or have to buy from NATO.

Nammo Lapua Oy.

Nammo or Nordic Ammunition Company is a joint Norwegian-Finnish company specializing in the production of ammunition, jet engines and space equipment. It has subsidiaries in Finland, Norway, Sweden, Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Austria, USA and Canada.

[Murmur 55]

Aaron Zaavi, thank you for the information, so they will be themselves, bad news.

[Barshchik-M]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: tralflot1832

What kind of wunderhowitzer did the Koreans create, it sells like hot cakes. Is there anything American in it? The US military-industrial complex cannot be without a gesheft, with this howitzer.

Of course there is. There are a lot of American components in the LMS.

That's who I didn't expect here in a conversation with the Finns, so these are Jews from Israel
Everywhere they climb..
Maybe it's time for Hezbollah to help with different missiles and MANPADS

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M

That's who I didn't expect here in a conversation with the Finns, so these are Jews from Israel
Everywhere they climb..
Maybe it's time for Hezbollah to help with different missiles and MANPADS

Hezbollah is armed by Iran. She needs you like snow in winter.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Hezbollah is armed by Iran. She needs you like snow in winter.

Yes, Meehan loves to scatter weapons left and right. So we ourselves can stay with a bare bottom. We will not give rockets to Hezbollah! Few by ourselves!

[faiver]

Yes, Meehan loves to scatter weapons left and right

- only he has nothing to scatter, well, an acre of sand and manure ....

[Barshchik-M]

Quote: faiver

Yes, Meehan loves to scatter weapons left and right

- only he has nothing to scatter, well, an acre of sand and manure ....

Very funny .. Notice this guys, how they humiliate the crowd and everyone admires themselves in their liberality They will be soon .. Stick to the faggots here!

[faiver]

Notice this guys, how they humiliate the crowd and everyone admires themselves in their liberality

- Decided to hide under the protection of the crowd?
- But you see, there would be no attack on a national basis and your message would have been noticed in general. Or is it just a provocation to be noticed, and you are our modern pop Gapon?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M

Very funny ..

Yes, not very funny. I'm tired of destroying everyone in words. Vital, what country have you not listed as an enemy yet? That way we won’t get enough Caliber.

[faiver]

Well, it’s not for him to do these Calibers ....

[BedMax]

Not a little. But the coordinates have already been entered from the factory)

[bdfy_bdfy]

Aaron, the question is off topic, where did your fellow countryman Warrior Wow,? his technical expertise in weapons has always been interesting on the site.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote from: bdfy_bdfy

Aaron, the question is off topic, where did your fellow countryman Warrior Wow,? his technical expertise in weapons has always been interesting on the site.

I have no idea.

[potap6509]

According to some iksperds, mostly foreign, the best howitzer in the world for a given period, hence the demand.

[Murmur 55]

potap6509 , here I wonder why the United States did not sell its Palladins? After all, the Finns are in NATO, which means that all purchases are under the control of the "folder".

[dmi.pris1]

Palladins are the same age as our Carnations. If not older. They are being modernized, but there is time

[donavi49]

The best in terms of performance balance. Plus, super-fast deliveries with high quality workmanship. For the Koreans have invested heavily in production.

[Thrifty]

Donavi, if you do not take the Coalition of SV, then the direct competitor of Msta is ours.

[cold wind]

Quote: Thrifty

Donavi, if you do not take the Coalition of SV, then the direct competitor of Msta is ours.

Msta is not a competitor, too old self-propelled guns. The coalition, yes, but I have doubts about the possibilities of its mass production. And the difference in barrel length is almost a meter. Msta has a caliber 152/47 (7144 mm), Coalition 152/52 (7904 mm), K9 155/52 (8060 mm).

[Thrifty]

ColdWind - there are also really misunderstandings about the Coalition of the SV, because there was information that the army was completely satisfied with it, but there was no contract for the purchase, there was not even a set-up batch, and the official, military tests were delayed, and instead of them factory tests again! , as if deliberately delaying the signing of the contract for the pilot batch!

[UAZ 452]

All electronics are most likely imported, and those components and assemblies that are produced in our country are on imported machines, which are now stopped one after another without maintenance and spare parts. I also read, of course, that sanctions are only to our advantage, but some minor, unimportant problems cause us.

[Negro]

Quote from cold wind

The coalition, yes, but I have doubts about the possibilities of its mass production.

What "yes"? What kind of drug addict will now take a 152mm solution? Even Chinese clients like Pakistan charge 155.

[donavi49]

There are already more than 9 K1000 and licensed Firtins, and there will be 1500 with contract ones to complete them. How many coalitions are there? How is it with childhood illnesses? Operating in a different environment than the landfill? Supply, repair, turnkey service centers, and just with production? Well, here are the key characteristics - unsuccessful.

Let's go, shells. K9 eats all 155 mm NATO shells + its own Korean + suitable for the standard. And, everything is there - mines, self-aiming submunitions, escaliburs, etc. Moreover, you can buy shells from some, others and third. With 152 caliber, at best, this is satisfactory with two minuses, for a small number of suppliers (China, Russia + possibly Iran and North Korea with their own production in quantity), and the nomenclature itself. Well, actually everything is clear here, even Algeria and Pakistan are already ordering 155 mm artillery from China.

[Negro]

No one made tracked self-propelled guns, everyone either upgraded the M109 or bought a groove 2000 from the Germans from under the reduced Bundeswehr.

But the Paz 2000 ran out, so there were two options left - either buy the M109 and re-equip it with 52 klb, for example, from Leonardo, or simply take a new one, and there is only one (or Chinese) available. So people do not take a steam bath and take a Korean, es is or under licensed production. When the Americans start producing M1299, it will be possible to compare with something.

[DienBienPhu]

Cheap and fast delivery. America's self-propelled artillery is too outdated

[Evil 55]

So it seems that the Finns entered service back in 2020 .. Finland is a hot country .. I really hope for constant failures, inoperability of systems and a decrease in the reliability of the mechanisms of this "South Korean miracle".

[Murmur 55]

Evil 55 , it’s unlikely, that is, the self-propelled guns have already been run in both in terms of climate and terrain and in terms of repair of suitability and she arranged for Helsinki, but as you understand, the Finns had plenty to choose from.

[Murmur 55]

And the Finnish "Carnations" in the amount of 72 pieces will be handed over to Kyiv as gratuitous assistance from the "young member" of NATO.

[Fizik13]

Something Yuk breaks out in front of the geyropa in heavy weapons.
YSA and rot their allies - buy either ours or from the South Caucasus.

[donavi49]

This is in Murzilki. In fact, everything is different.

About why Korea collects cream? So everything is simple - they are the only ones who can supply in quantity for tomorrow. The United States now generally has a bare seat in this niche. That is, there is nothing to offer, especially in the context of paid-bought. The same M109A6 / 7 are already outdated, plus they are barely enough even for the Americans. PZ2000 - the production is small, and no one will sell from the availability. Well, etc.

The Koreans are ready to supply directly next year and in quantity. At their peak, they made 120+ cars annually (for themselves and for export).

[PSih2097]

Quote: donavi49

PZ2000 - the production is small, and no one will sell from the availability. Well, etc.

there are still Swedes with their Archer, although he is on a wheeled chassis ...

[faiver]

wheeled chassis in Fink no ice....

Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment.

[Beetle1991]

The Koreans pushed the price. European sau, these are panzer howitzers 2000 or wheeled cesar, archer and dan. K9 at a price of more than 4 lyam is a freebie. A German kopeck piece will cost at least 2.5 times more. YUSA has nothing to do with it. They didn't screw up either.
In general, Finns often buy a used technical vehicle in good condition. Leopards 6 in the Netherlands and so on.
In general, they know how to count money.
And probably k9 today is the best offer in terms of price-quality ratio.

[tralflot1832]

Finland is an extremely convenient country for using heavy armored vehicles, a step to the side from the road and drowning in a swamp.

[Thrifty]

Tralflot is like our Karelia. The Finns actually adapt the technique for themselves, up to changing the oil to their development. The equipment is insulated inside, additionally, all consumables are expensive there because they are made in small batches for local weather conditions.

[tralflot1832]

It is one thing to insulate, but swamps and boulders are another. Tank-hazardous areas have been known to both sides since the Great Patriotic War. Military operations on the Kola Peninsula were very interesting, hundreds of kilometers were covered only by barriers.

[BedMax]

In the age of drones, this is bullshit
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Murmur 55]

Thrifty , this is a plus and this is a minus, small batches with high qualities are good, the loss of each machine is a weakening of power, this is a minus.

[spirit]

Get to work! Some Koreans supply art shells to us, others sell hundreds of heavy weapons to Europe. Who would have said this 20 years ago would have been considered crazy

[smart fellow]

South Korea also supplies hundreds of thousands of shells. In July of this year, they sold 100000 155mm shells to Canada in exchange for those delivered to Ukraine and at a price below the market. We signed a contract with the supply of MANPADS and ammunition for $ 2,9 billion to a Czech company - the United States pays, and the company donates them further to Ukraine. At a price of $ 2000 per shot (projectile + propellant charge), about 1 million shots of 155mm caliber.
But the DPRK is unlikely to supply ammunition. They opened the border the other day, it was closed for more than 2 years due to covid. Also, UN sanctions prohibit the arms trade with the DPRK, and Moscow complies with them. Even if the Russian leadership decides to violate the sanctions against the DPRK, it is not known whether Pyongyang will agree to supply weapons to Russia. Political support is one thing, military support is another. After all, the DPRK's enemy is not Ukraine, but the United States.

[bdfy_bdfy]

As the "winter war" and then the Second World War showed, Finland and its strategic location near the borders of the Northern Capital can do a lot of trouble in a big war, which is already seen as inevitable in the medium term. Today, the Russian Federation does not even have a group of troops on the border with its northern neighbor. Today there is nothing to repel a dagger strike on Peter.

[D-Master]

All of Eastern Europe and Scandinavia are switching to Korean howitzers ... And the German self-propelled guns turned out to be so-so, like the French Caesar. That is, the EU, in fact, cannot produce decent, cheap weapons.

[Far_Observer]

Poland produces good Crab howitzer guns under license from Korea, but the production capacity at the plant is too small.
They are barely enough for the needs of the Polish Army and to order for Ukraine.

[Bayun]

inspired: "And how many muskets do we have? - Four! And how many swords? - Four! Who are we? The Estonian army!"

Why do the "Finnishlands" need an army, is there a Hegemon? It's cheaper to place a couple of hegemon bases than to maintain your "three musketeers".