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Russia re-equipped all missile formations at the Iskander-M OTRK

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Russia re-equipped all missile formations at the Iskander-M OTRK

The missile formations of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have completed the re-equipment with the modern Iskander-M complex. This was stated by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, emphasizing the uniqueness of the complex and the absence of its world analogues.


According to open sources, the firing range of the Iskander-M is up to 300-500 kilometers (data vary). Such a range makes missiles indispensable in solving combat missions. In addition, the American press previously wrote that Iskander-M uses special "traps" for air defense systems.

Russian military personnel are already using the Iskander-M during a special military operation in Ukraine. They note the excellent combat characteristics of the complex, the increased cross-country ability of the combat vehicle, which is able to overcome impassability and operate in swampy areas.

As stated in the Russian Defense Ministry, rocket artillery units receive modern weapons. They are successfully used during a special military operation in the Donbass and other regions. Also, Russian troops regularly receive new multiple launch rocket systems, including the Tornado family.

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are regularly supplied with modernized 2S19M2 Msta-S self-propelled howitzers. Their distinguishing characteristics include the rate of fire and the ability to work in the "flurry of fire" mode.

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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 19 November 2022 09: 46
    -8
    When you read about those that have no analogues in the world, you involuntarily draw on a mat - I'm talking about the T14 Armata, and other military-industrial complex crafts. But, the Iskanders proved their effectiveness in the war, and it is logical for us to have here not a variety of varieties, but one complex, the presence of which confirms the absence of any specific complexes, except for military ones !!! wassat
    1. Barshchik-M
      Barshchik-M 19 November 2022 09: 55
      +25
      Well, they whined here right away .. No, to rejoice and congratulate our Rocketeers on the Holiday .. Be sure to spit on everything and everyone with mud .. Well, well
      Happy Rocket Day!!!! And do not listen to the whiners, you are our support and insurance .. Keep it up!
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 19 November 2022 10: 48
        +4
        Banshicam and other things - Vitalik, explained how you bypass the bans with at least 5 accounts on the site? Why and why are you on the site at all? does what it should, will not remove you with your accounts from the site!
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          1. skeptic
            skeptic 19 November 2022 11: 29
            +4
            Quote: Bathhouse attendant-M
            Are you happy for the Russian rocket scientists and our Crimea?
            Yes or NO .. I'm waiting!

            How is it according to TsIPSOshny ... or simply - ukrotroll. The main thing is to throw a fly in the ointment, off topic. "Iskander-M" - good, but important, not even "Armata". It is very uncomfortable to perceive premature "Uryakalki". In the USSR, they first developed, tested, satiated the troops, and only after the products, as fragments, are "declassified" - you can say as much as you like on the Central Television and the media. It is not known who is the bigger enemy, the balabol who called about the ongoing developments, or the "bespectacled man" from the enemy's special services, who extracted the relevant information from the Russian "bell towers"?
            1. Barshchik-M
              Barshchik-M 19 November 2022 12: 10
              -5
              Quote: skeptic
              In the USSR, they first developed, tested, satiated the troops, and only after the products, as fragments, are "declassified" - you can say as much as you want on the Central Television and the media

              All the same, and yet it’s not worth much to find fault with our developers .. There were problems and will be, but work is underway
              Quote: skeptic
              It is not known who is the bigger enemy, the balabol who called about the ongoing developments, or the "bespectacled man" from the enemy's special services, who extracted the relevant information from the Russian "bell towers"?

              Quote: skeptic
              It is not known who is the bigger enemy, the balabol who called about the ongoing developments, or the "bespectacled man" from the enemy's special services, who extracted the relevant information from the Russian "bell towers"?

              I always wrote here, chat less, who is in this system .. But no, they are trying to blather everything here and raise their ratings Ugh damn And they usually whine ..
              Oh, the times of the USSR There were romantics and skeptics, but not whiners !!! Here is the difference..

              Now there is no such
              1. krot
                krot 19 November 2022 15: 50
                +5
                I hope the outdated Tochka-U will be used during the NWO.
                Do not dispose of them just on needles ..
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    2. white fall
      white fall 19 November 2022 10: 03
      +3
      Thrifty Ukrainian, tired of your whining for any reason - go look for your T84 stronghold better
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 19 November 2022 10: 44
        +3
        WhiteFallen - did you give the Russian city of Rostov-on-Don to Ukraine? And I'm tired of your and many others' ostentatious yelling and the same ostentatious patriotism! Does the fact that we are fighting with old T62 tanks tell you at least something? stupidly nahomiv opponent???
        1. Edik
          Edik 19 November 2022 13: 01
          +6
          Quote: Thrifty
          Does the fact that we are fighting with old T62 tanks tell you at least something?

          We are fighting with the entire fleet of tanks! And what to do with 62? Salt them or something? It's good when there is something to fight, but when there is nothing, it's very bad!
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      3. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 19 November 2022 11: 38
        +6
        Quote from Whitefall
        Thrifty Ukrainian, tired of your whining for any reason - go look for your T84 stronghold better

        He’s so reckless... He’s wary because... He pisses off quietly and takes care, throws in snot and takes care of himself... You can’t fix nature .. hehe ...
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 19 November 2022 12: 17
          -6
          30vis-you clearly judge others by yourself?
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      4. Barshchik-M
        Barshchik-M 19 November 2022 16: 01
        0
        Quote from Whitefall
        Thrifty Ukrainian, tired of your whining for any reason - go look for your T84 stronghold better

        This dude "Thrifty" has already killed many with his whining and complaints ..
        This is a Russophobe and a Sulak 100%
        It whines quietly, but wets the newcomers stupidly
    3. Beck69
      Beck69 19 November 2022 10: 47
      -11
      Maybe I'm dumb, but it seems to me that the Hymars is smarter, there is one launcher, there are several missiles, so we need one launcher, and they will feed there: iskanders, calibers, onyxes, daggers, etc.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 19 November 2022 10: 54
        +7
        Quote: Beck69
        Maybe I'm dumb, but it seems to me that the Hymars is smarter, there is one launcher, there are several missiles, so we need one launcher, and they will feed there: iskanders, calibers, onyxes, daggers, etc.

        Completely different systems. Iskander is indeed a very formidable weapon. And the fact that unification has been carried out certainly helps in logistics and in subsequent upgrades.
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 19 November 2022 11: 29
          -4
          A formidable weapon, I agree. But it is very expensive, so it is not widely used. Iranian shahid mopeds are not as efficient, but very cheap. It is a pity that we have not established a mass production of such analogues.
          I’ll also tell you about accuracy: everyone saw the photo with the struck Antonovsky bridge, Hymers easily gets into the bridge. And where are similar photos of our hits in bridges? I think with regret that the accuracy of our missiles will not allow us to hit the bridge.
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 19 November 2022 12: 07
            +9
            Quote: Fan-Fan
            I think with regret that the accuracy of our missiles will not allow us to hit the bridge.
            The net is full of videos where they get into equipment (in a car, tank, infantry fighting vehicle ...), you can also find where cruise missiles hit both bridges and their supports.
            1. MBRSS
              MBRSS 19 November 2022 23: 55
              +1
              For bridges, it would be necessary to develop a modification of the missile with a reduced range and increased power. But the existing ones will go if they decide to hit the bridges. But they don’t want to, even crack!
          2. Askold65
            Askold65 19 November 2022 13: 52
            +3
            Quote: Fan-Fan
            And where are similar photos of our hits in bridges? I think with regret that the accuracy of our missiles will not allow us to hit the bridge.

            I saw a video where a Ukrainian Buk was covered with a direct hit by Iskander. Our people then cursed in the comments - why such an expensive missile was spent on an old air defense system.
            I already wrote that in the ammunition load for the Iskander, it is necessary to develop a cheaper version based on the existing missile, flying along a ballistic trajectory without any quasi-ballistics and electronic warfare systems on board. Use expensive missiles only against objects covered by a strong missile defense system.
        2. Barshchik-M
          Barshchik-M 19 November 2022 14: 27
          -2
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Completely different systems. Iskander is indeed a very formidable weapon. And the fact that unification has been carried out certainly helps in logistics and in subsequent upgrades.

          Aaron, how do you know all this? Are you like a fugitive, since the days of the USSR? And obviously angry at Stalin and in general at the Russians!
          Just don't call me an anti-Semite and a Nazi, as you all love in Israel (when you ask questions and you don't get answers))))
          You are interesting people .. I am interested in your fellow tribesman in psychological terms (Zelensky)
          You usually keep quiet about him, that he is yours .. And HE is yours !!!
          What characteristics do you have on it?
          Only in turn and not all at once))) And in response, silence hehe
          So it's always here
      2. potap6509
        potap6509 19 November 2022 11: 27
        +2
        Read here: https://topwar.ru/194265-otrk-iskander-vse-tak-kak-my-preduprezhdali.html
    4. Jackyun
      Jackyun 19 November 2022 11: 05
      +1
      However, this efficiency does not yet affect the offensive capabilities of the Red Army. The NATO Army Probe has us anywhere, anytime, any way. Now couch general experts will fly in, but they will not be able to object to anything on the merits of the issue, as always.
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 19 November 2022 11: 41
        0
        Quote: Jackyun
        . Now couch general experts will fly in, but they will not be able to object to anything on the merits of the issue, as always.

        The main purpose of these missiles is to carry tactical nuclear weapons! Do you want to use atomic weapons in Ukraine? ! The answer should be short - Yes - No.
    5. werwolf1981
      werwolf1981 19 November 2022 23: 15
      +2
      I completely agree. Already got it with their unparalleled !!
  2. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 19 November 2022 09: 47
    +10
    Happy Holidays once again to the rocket men! Beat Bandera more often and harder
  3. Comrade I
    Comrade I 19 November 2022 09: 49
    -1
    ...emphasizing the uniqueness of the complex and its lack of analogues in the world...

    Oh my god again?
    After all the damage caused by HIMARS guided 227-mm projectiles, it can be understood that ATACMS will be quite an analogue of the Iskanders.
    1. novel66
      novel66 19 November 2022 11: 09
      +5
      ATACMS will be quite an analogue of the Iskanders

      does not reach in range
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 19 November 2022 11: 34
        +2
        But in terms of accuracy it "pulls". And probably cheaper too.
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 19 November 2022 09: 50
    0
    In general, ideally, for one launcher, you need to have several types of ammunition with different flight ranges, and naturally at different prices. Shorter missiles, cheaper but equally high-precision with a range of up to 100 kilometers, the second type of missile with a range of up to 300 kilometers, in addition to the main missile with a flight range of 500 kilometers, does not interfere with having a missile with a flight range of up to 700 kilometers!
    1. Barberry25
      Barberry25 19 November 2022 10: 46
      +2
      the question is .. why have missiles for Iskander with a range of up to 100 km, when there are even cheaper missiles for MLRS with the same range of 90-120 km? What Iskander needs is to increase the rate of missile production and think about unification with the missiles of the same Bastion, if possible.
      1. svp67
        svp67 19 November 2022 10: 54
        +4
        Quote: Barberry25
        the question is .. why have missiles for Iskander with a range of up to 100 km, when there are even cheaper missiles for MLRS with the same range of 90-120 km

        And why necessarily "Iskander"? There are still "Points-U" in storage, they have just such a range. And why these missiles, and not MLRS. So they don’t fly along a flat ballistic trajectory, like MLRS missiles, but along a steep one, this alone already increases their percussion properties, and they contain SIGNIFICANTLY more explosives, these would be missiles, but according to the identified URs, so that it doesn’t seem a little, and indeed for any identified enemy buried object
        1. Barberry25
          Barberry25 19 November 2022 11: 34
          +1
          the development and production of any weapon has a price .. missiles for Tochka are not produced and in theory, if possible, they can be used to properly dispose of it, but what's the point of trying to give birth again to something heavy where it is not needed? namely, that the electronic filling and yes, the point of course has more warheads than the same Tornado, but the difference in price will level this out ... MLRS has always been cheaper, otherwise everyone would switch to OTRK at any opportunity. No need to produce entities .. And about "in-depth missiles" .. and have you seen them in recent years? Now it is the creation of dispersed objects that drives and there is just the opportunity to send several missiles with 150 kg of warheads better than 1 missile of 450 kilos.
          1. Askold65
            Askold65 19 November 2022 14: 14
            +1
            Quote: Barberry25
            MLRS has always been cheaper, otherwise everyone would have switched to OTRK at any opportunity. There is no need to produce entities .. And about "in-depth missile defense" .. have you seen them in recent years? now it is the creation of dispersed objects that drives and there is just the opportunity to send several missiles with 150 kg of warheads are better than 1 missile of 450 kilos.

            MLRS are designed to work in areas, and not in dispersed objects. If missiles for MLRS are made high-precision, then it will rather be a multiply charged OTRK with a limited firing range, due to the relatively small size of the missiles themselves.
            The main advantage of the Iskander-type OTRK in comparison with the MLRS is the missile launch range and higher hitting accuracy. For example, if you need to destroy a very important object covered by air defense at a distance unattainable for MLRS missiles. This weapon is for its tasks in its radius of action.
            1. Barberry25
              Barberry25 19 November 2022 17: 16
              +2
              only installing a glonass module on it, together with control rudders / nozzles, makes it a high-precision weapon, for example, 9M542 is equipped with such a module with a range of 120 km. And I do not propose to create a super-mega missile, I wrote an answer to the fact that it makes no sense to develop another one a missile for Iskander with a range of 100 km, when there is already a missile for Tornado with a range of 120 km and if such a booze has gone, then it is best to make missiles for Tornado so as not to deprive our troops of extra normal-range missiles for Iskander
              1. Askold65
                Askold65 19 November 2022 18: 12
                +1
                Quote: Barberry25
                .And I do not propose to create a super-mega missile, I wrote an answer to the fact that it makes no sense to develop another missile for Iskander with a range of 100 km, when there is already a missile for Smerch with a range of 120 km

                Yes, it makes no sense to develop, since the Iskander in this design can operate for 100 km. We need, as I already wrote here, in the ammunition load a more budget version of missiles without any quasi-ballistic trajectories with gas-dynamic rudders and electronic warfare systems on board. Ukraine does not have advanced missile defense / air defense, and I see no reason to spend expensive missiles on them. It would also be nice to increase the range of such missiles (it seems like there is such a potential).
                Here, the day before yesterday, ours reported to the media that one industrial enterprise in the Dnieper, which produces missiles for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, was hit. But the result was minor damage and a fire, which was quickly extinguished. This suggests that there was clearly an arrival of ammunition of insufficient power. But if an Iskander rocket with a warhead of half a ton weighing ....
                1. Barberry25
                  Barberry25 19 November 2022 18: 34
                  +1
                  Well, it makes sense to make budget missiles for 500 km, I agree, so to speak, a mobilization option, but here you need to look .. what is easier and cheaper to do, develop and produce such a missile or make more of the same R-500s, which, like cruise missiles, should be in prices of the order of several tens of million rubles .. But you need to think, I hope that the research institutes are puzzled by this issue.
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 19 November 2022 11: 06
        +1
        The difference in warheads, the Iskander M has almost half a ton.
        1. Barberry25
          Barberry25 19 November 2022 11: 44
          +3
          but the price there will be huge ... How much does one rocket cost for Iskander? "a little" cheaper ... for understanding, in 2005 the most expensive rocket cost 2 million rubles, i.e. if we count well, sooo big inflation, then one launch now costs about 10-15 million rubles .. against the Iskander, which has launches of almost hundreds of million rubles, they consider it very budgetary
  5. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 19 November 2022 09: 52
    +2
    This was stated by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, emphasizing the uniqueness of the complex and the absence of its world analogues.
    Again. Rogozin is dead. Long live Rogozin.
    They note the excellent combat characteristics of the complex, the increased cross-country ability of the combat vehicle, which is able to overcome impassability and operate in swampy areas.
    Here you definitely need to climb into the swamp with a firing range of 300-500 km.
  6. megadeth
    megadeth 19 November 2022 09: 56
    +1
    Thank God we made it...?????????????????????
    Happy holiday rocketmen and gunners, keep destroying the ukrovermacht!

    16.10.2019 17:18
    Heading:
    Power
    Putin announced a new task for the defense industry
    The President set tasks for defense industry enterprises
    Aysel Gereykhanova
    Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the peak of arms supplies by enterprises of the military-industrial complex within the framework of the state defense order as a whole has been passed. This poses new challenges for the industry in the production of civilian products.
    Alexey Druzhinin/RIA Novosti
    On Wednesday, the head of state held a meeting on the financial rehabilitation of defense industry enterprises. Putin stressed that this topic is important for the country's economy and industry. After all, now defense industry organizations, in addition to their core work, face large-scale tasks to increase the output of civilian products that will be in demand both domestically and on world markets. And no debt should hold back this work.

    Putin demanded not to delay the completion of the liquidation of the consequences of floods
    “I have already said and I want to repeat once again: the peak of arms supplies under the state defense order has been passed in general, but in some areas it is at the stage of this passing, it is already close to completion,” Putin said.

    As part of the implementation of national projects, military-industrial complex enterprises need medical, road construction equipment, telecommunication systems, equipment for waste and garbage processing, the president stressed. Putin referred to experts who estimate the demand for such products at 6,2 trillion rubles. "And it is necessary that most of this demand be satisfied by domestic producers," the president set the task.

    He pointed out that the work of defense industry enterprises in this area requires the adoption of organizational, technological, personnel and financial measures. And the deterrent here is a large debt burden. "The loans taken seriously limit the possibilities for diversifying production, introducing advanced technologies, and developing personnel," the president explained.

    Now defense industry organizations face large-scale tasks to increase the output of civilian products
    He recalled that the meeting of the Military-Industrial Commission in Izhevsk was devoted to this issue, where the need to improve the financial condition of defense industry organizations was noted. Therefore, Putin suggested discussing what has been done within the framework of this conversation.

    “I want to emphasize once again: proposals for improving the financial condition of defense enterprises should be primarily focused on solving problems related to the diversification of production,” the head of state drew the attention of the meeting participants. Further, the meeting was held behind closed doors from the press.
    Russian newspaper - Capital issue: No. 234 (7992) November 16.10.2019, XNUMX
  7. ximkim
    ximkim 19 November 2022 09: 58
    -3
    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation would have already tied up with lies, otherwise they have already taken it into service.
  8. MstislavHrabr
    MstislavHrabr 19 November 2022 10: 01
    +11
    And I think that in addition to the iskanders, dots should also remain in the units. We have enough of them and enough shells for them, and there are cadres from among the mobilized who will be able to serve them, with minimal retraining. And why then spend money on the disposal of shells, if you can use them for their intended purpose ?!
    1. TerraSandera
      TerraSandera 19 November 2022 10: 42
      +7
      They now need to fill up all positions in the fields, there are a lot of them, the resource is running out, there is either recycling (good costs) or recycling against the enemy, also costs, but with benefit. I don't understand why they are not used. Cover the same positions of air defense or artillery batteries. Accuracy? With such a striking effect they will hit. Before the assault, several points ... Hollow out all sorts of anthills.
    2. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 19 November 2022 10: 47
      -1
      Quote: MstislavHrabr
      And why then spend money on the disposal of shells, if you can use them for their intended purpose ?!
      And the number of provocations will increase by an order of magnitude, when Ukrainian "points" will beat their own population, and complaints will go to the UN about Russian atrocities.
      Now, at least by the type of missiles, you can make out who fired.
  9. Stas
    Stas 19 November 2022 10: 10
    +13
    Rocketeers with a holiday! Everything is fine and clear with the Iskander-M OTRK. I have a question. Maybe someone will tell? Why are the Tochka-U systems in storage not used against Bandera? Why not use old rockets for the benefit of the common cause?
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 19 November 2022 10: 25
      -4
      Maybe the third step is attached to the Point.?
      1. KCA
        KCA 19 November 2022 10: 46
        +2
        There is no second one on it, why the third?
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 19 November 2022 11: 08
          +2
          I can also attribute the fourth stage. It is also not clear what they are doing with Point U, is it really the level of modernization has been exhausted?
    2. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 19 November 2022 10: 33
      0
      Why are the Tochka-U systems in storage not used against Bandera?

      The task will be completed!

      (launchers and a supply of missiles on trucks. Or are they just transported back and forth?

      An outdated but combat-ready complex, without any secrets in the design. But given how they react and furiously deny the use of the Points in the special operation on our part, there is some secret connected with them, something that cannot be talked about.
    3. Oleg Ogorod
      Oleg Ogorod 19 November 2022 10: 38
      +1
      The question is certainly interesting. The dot really doesn't fly that far. But it can deliver a big charge.
      But for the point you need a serviceable old complex. And they've been out of service for a long time. Although the cart was unique.
      Is it possible to put an old rocket on Iskander, it's hard to say. I think the electronics are not quite compatible. By transferring target designation to the missile.
      Now, accurate missiles to a tornado would be needed more. Which has many launch tubes, and not one, like a point, or two, like an Iskander. And the Bandera people proved the effectiveness of such launches using the example of Western complexes, and even alder.
      But our generals from the 46th thought to fight the old fashioned way, covering large areas with volleys of unguided rockets. Like on the video it looks spectacular. What would have to fight in the conditions of settlements, and even almost their own, somehow did not come to mind.
      On the other hand, it really was not necessary to make rocket launchers all highly passable on such a powerful chassis. Taking into account the range of the iskander. Part could be on a simpler, for example, four-axle Kamaz, or even in the form of a semi-trailer. With a tractor type Kirovets tractor. Although the Kirovets seem to have been pissed away for a long time ...
    4. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 19 November 2022 17: 34
      +2
      Quote: Stas
      Why are the Tochka-U systems in storage not used against Bandera? Why not use old rockets for the benefit of the common cause?

      It seems to me that the mobilized, newly formed units of the RV&A will be given them .. for them there are still no Iskanders ..
  10. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 19 November 2022 10: 22
    +10
    Interestingly, do our gestures of goodwill also have no analogues in the world?
  11. Saboteur_Navy
    Saboteur_Navy 19 November 2022 10: 29
    +5
    Dot-U is also a formidable weapon, they also need to be pulled up to the front
  12. Igorash
    Igorash 19 November 2022 10: 30
    -4
    Yeah .. 500 km .. cool ... to tears .. And about the fact that the concept was inaccurate rearmed ... Learned to lie .. Rearmed for show or as needed? According to US intelligence, the Russian army is armed with 100 pieces. Believe don’t believe it .. but refute it. Remember how with tanks. On all the screens they shouted that we had more than 10 thousand of them in service. But in fact there were a little less than 3 thousand. And apparently the picture is the same here ... And the range .. .except for tears and nervous giggling, nothing causes ... But the degradation of developments is obvious. Indeed, the complete "uniqueness of the complex and the lack of world analogues for it." Here the RF Ministry of Defense hit the mark ...
    1. Barberry25
      Barberry25 19 November 2022 10: 47
      0
      and we have some kind of missile brigade, where else are the points in service?
    2. Koronik
      Koronik 19 November 2022 10: 57
      -3
      "Remember how it was with tanks. They shouted on all screens that we had more than 10 thousand of them in service. But in fact there were a little less than 3 thousand." Where did the information come from - Ukrainian SMOs? This is how the "respected" cast a shadow. And to all the rocket men with the HOLIDAY, good health and good luck to you, and most importantly, return home safe and sound!
    3. Former soldier
      Former soldier 19 November 2022 11: 27
      +1
      Yeah .. 500 km .. cool ... to tears ..

      And how much do you need? In fact, it is limited by the INF Treaty. They introduced a missile with an extended range on this platform and a scandal arose.
      PS. Although it seems that the United States unilaterally withdrew from the INF Treaty. but presumably bargaining goes.
  13. svp67
    svp67 19 November 2022 10: 50
    +2
    Russian military personnel are already using the Iskander-M during a special military operation in Ukraine. They note the excellent combat characteristics of the complex, the increased cross-country ability of the combat vehicle, which is able to overcome impassability and operate in swampy areas.
    It's all great. Even EXCELLENT. But, where did the old Iskanders go? Maybe it’s worth it to form one brigade for them from the mobilized, and even a couple of brigades armed with Tochka-U, in order to use this potential too ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 19 November 2022 10: 58
      0
      Quote: svp67
      it's all great. Even EXCELLENT. But, where did the old Iskanders go? Maybe it’s worth it to form one brigade for them from the mobilized, and even a couple of brigades armed with Tochka-U, in order to use this potential too ...

      Some were shot at the training grounds, some in Syria.
      1. svp67
        svp67 19 November 2022 11: 05
        +2
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Some were shot at the training grounds, some in Syria.

        hi I beg you ... If the Armed Forces of Ukraine still have them, then our stocks were much larger, since there were more brigades and separate divisions ...
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 19 November 2022 11: 18
          0
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Some were shot at the training grounds, some in Syria.

          hi I beg you ... If the Armed Forces of Ukraine still have them, then our stocks were much larger, since there were more brigades and separate divisions ...

          Yes, but your missile troops have been actively fighting since 1994. Yes, the intensity of the missile exercises was much greater. Then the Ukrainians were actively engaged in the repair of their Points, while the RF Armed Forces mainly received Iskander-M and did not spend money on maintaining old missiles in a combat-ready state.
          1. svp67
            svp67 19 November 2022 11: 22
            +4
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Yes, but your missile troops have been actively fighting since 1994.

            Yes, but it was on our territory that the production of these missiles was launched
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Then the Ukrainians were actively engaged in the repair of their Points, while the RF Armed Forces mainly received Iskander-M and did not spend money on maintaining old missiles in a combat-ready state.

            Arsenals are in place, there are repair bases, nothing prevents now from starting to bring them to life
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 19 November 2022 11: 39
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              Quote: svp67

              Arsenals are in place, there are repair bases, nothing prevents now from starting to bring them to life

              We do not know how "cost-effectiveness" is there. Perhaps one Iskander-M will cost as much as the restoration of two Points, but the latter will always be outdated systems.
              1. svp67
                svp67 20 November 2022 10: 43
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                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Perhaps one Iskander-M will cost as much as the restoration of two Points, but the latter will always be outdated systems.

                Possibly, but at the same time producing in a fabrication plant and making repairs, in a repair plant is now more important than just producing.
                "Tochka-U", although outdated, but having modernization projects, nothing prevents it from being produced now, and after the CBO they can be sold ...
    2. Expert
      Expert 20 November 2022 00: 28
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      Quote: svp67
      It's all great. Even EXCELLENT. But, where did the old Iskanders go?

      Wikipedia says. "Units produced: Self Propelled Launchers 140 units (as of April 2020)". It is clear that there could have been a few more missiles for them, but still. And how many of them have already been launched in the NWO? Again, it is not known how the "re-equipment" was carried out on the Iskander-M - by the production of new or by the modernization of already produced samples?
  14. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 19 November 2022 11: 03
    +3
    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation completely confused. Iskander M - a complex with missiles with a quasi-ballistic flight path! Iskander K a complex with cruise missiles! So there is only one type of missiles left in the brigades. And where did the cruise missiles go. What kind of play on words?
    1. svp67
      svp67 19 November 2022 11: 06
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      Quote: tralflot1832
      This means that only one type of missiles remained in the brigades.

      No, "M" can use all types of missiles, as well as promising ones. There, the base chassis itself is longer, which means that missiles with a longer range may appear.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 19 November 2022 11: 20
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        Well, then they would have pinned, two missiles in the launcher and one of them is winged, in a container. hi bully
  15. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 19 November 2022 12: 44
    +1
    We need Tornado-S with adjustable projectiles, if at the beginning of the operation we had 500 launchers and 100000 missiles, everything would be different.
  16. Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 19 November 2022 13: 18
    +2
    Well, as the real war showed, Iskander is a weapon of questionable effectiveness. It is used as an insanely expensive high-precision projectile. There are 14 missile brigades in the Russian army and the influence of this seemingly formidable force on the course of hostilities ..uh ..how to put it mildly. The Hymars make a lot more sense.
  17. Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 19 November 2022 13: 25
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    "Analogue" yes.
    Quote from the tg-channel of Vladlen Tatarsky:

    "On February 24, most of the artillery went into battle with compass and binoculars at hand. The spotter had to climb a tree or somewhere else and control the fire - there were not enough, and in most cases, no UAVs. There was nothing like "Nettle" and "Dill" in the Russian Army either. (A commentator should appear here who will say that we had everything, you just don’t know!). Few knew about the existence of Offlinemaps. The program allows any person who knows how to press the touch screen with their fingers to carry out gun aiming. Just put the gun in the direction of the target, X and Y are shown on the map. Raise the copter and adjust by eye: south, north, etc. Everything. (Especially for telephonophobes, I’ll say: buy Chinese, don’t insert a SIM card, download the application via Wi-Fi and update the cards in the same way. You will also need a phone with a SIM card - you need to somehow keep in touch).

    But the students still don't know about it. Mobilized and volunteers come from the training grounds, and there they teach artillerymen as if the SVO had not begun. Maybe two weeks ago I saw a newly formed artillery brigade that arrived from the Russian Federation. There, the commander ordered to send two spotters to the front line to monitor the work of artillery. One had a Mavic 2 on his shoulder, but they didn't know how to use it. It's just there, so you need to take it with you. "Take everything!" - such an order! They had to unfold the compass and look through binoculars. These two served in the army for a long time, of course, not in the artillery. There is no "offlinemaps", and I had to explain for a long time that "offline" means that the application can work without the Internet. I’m wondering: was their brigade commander really not interested in everything that happened around the last 9 months? What can I say, if in 2019, in the LPR, the "adviser" taught the officers (officers !!!) to adjust the fire on the "snail"! Well, i.e. boarding school level... Including due to the lack of normal adjustment, our artillery had to produce wagons of shells, which are now in great short supply. Target reconnaissance for artillery in 90% of cases is civilian copters from DGI, bought by civilians and put into the army by volunteers. WITHOUT THIS HELP, OUR ARMY WOULD HAVE BEEN DESTROYED LONG AGO! We need to remember and be aware of this.

    How many times I have been in the army, I still have not explored the possibilities "Aistenka" and other similar systems. For the most part, no one knows how to use them or, perhaps, they are not effective.. I can say one thing for sure: I have never heard at the command post that they received target designation from radar devices.

    But they have already begun to tell how politicians are preventing them from fighting. Do politicians also interfere with fulfilling the requirements of the combat charter and mastering the entrusted equipment? Think with your head, and not only eat it and wait for early retirement, too, politicians prevented?
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 19 November 2022 17: 49
      +2
      when I wrote before the SVO that few people know how to use new equipment, because they don’t give out - what if a fighter breaks or loses - I was minus, like an all-weather .. but how can I be able to use it in the end, if it wasn’t really mastered in practice ?
  18. Sergeant_Soviet_Army
    Sergeant_Soviet_Army 19 November 2022 13: 26
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    Well done rocket launchers! How tired of all the whiners and liberals. They themselves have never done anything sensible with their own hands, only whine much. You read the comments, all the specialists and professionals, you are not at the front.
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  20. Old Doctor
    Old Doctor 19 November 2022 14: 50
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    I read about Iskander. For some reason, no one remembered what day it was today. I congratulate all current and former artillerymen and rocketmen on their professional holiday!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGcObURiphI
  21. Sergey Drozdov
    Sergey Drozdov 19 November 2022 17: 49
    +1
    "Russia rearmed" - as soon as you read - joyful joy! And when they just had time - well done, comrades!
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  23. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 19 November 2022 19: 40
    +2
    Well, the removed "points-y" must be successfully "utilized" against the Nazis!
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 19 November 2022 22: 48
      +1
      In 2014, LDNR would have been issued to sheep .... You look, it’s not like 404 would have rushed into the war ...
  24. Roman Efremov
    Roman Efremov 19 November 2022 20: 15
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    It's amazing how many readers this wonderful news caused anger and irritation!!!
  25. Sergey3
    Sergey3 19 November 2022 20: 34
    +2
    It's good that they rearmed, but where did the old deli go? It is necessary to dispose of them on their own to Ukraine.
  26. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 19 November 2022 22: 47
    +1
    The conflict showed that in addition to the main one, you need to have a cheap BR with a correspondent via satellite .... and in large quantities.