Intelligence of NATO and Ukraine made a mistake with the forecasts on the "ended" missiles from Russia

More recently, the Ukrainian authorities, followed by representatives of the leadership of the North Atlantic Alliance, the countries of the West and Ukraine, ambitiously stated that Russia had allegedly run out of missiles, including Caliber, and now the country would not be able to subject the territory of Ukraine to serious blows. Such statements were made, for example, by Aleksey Arestovich, adviser to the Office of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky.

Politicians and officials referred to their intelligence data. For example, in the 20th of October, the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Kirill Budanov, stated that the Russian army had almost run out of missiles and there would be no new attacks. However, Budanov said the same thing in August 2022, and even in May, the Ukrainian military already claimed that Russian missiles were depleted.

However, today is November 19, and rocket attacks on the territory of Ukraine are repeated with a frightening regularity for the Kyiv regime. Now representatives of the Western and Ukrainian authorities no longer talk about the fact that Russia "ran out of missiles." On the contrary, they admit that Moscow could increase the production of missiles, since it supposedly stocked up on the necessary components in advance even before the start of a special military operation in Ukraine. This is despite the fact that in March there were statements that the Russian military-industrial complex allegedly had to remove electronics from refrigerators and washing machines in order to preserve rocket science at least a little ...

Meanwhile, rocket strikes are causing more and more problems for the Kyiv regime. Prime Minister of Ukraine Denys Shmygal, for example, said yesterday that about half of the entire energy infrastructure of the country was damaged as a result of the strikes. This is a huge loss of capacity, given that, as current events show, missile strikes have not stopped until now. Only this night there were large-scale arrivals in Zaporozhye, in the evening - in Nikopol.

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[withoutreverse]

What a bummer for the Western "partners", and Zelensky)

[Ilya-spb]

To paraphrase the famous phrase of the British about the fleet:

"Putin has a lot"

[Murmur 55]

Well, about 50%, this is a lie, a whistle and a provocation, about the ended missiles, there was a message for ordinary citizens to calm down, about chips, I think that everything is easier as we bought and we buy under a parallel program. It's just that this confrontation is beneficial to Washington in the long game.

[dmi.pris1]

It’s understandable about missiles. The main thing is that the desire to fight does not end.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: dmi.pris

It’s understandable about missiles. The main thing is that the desire to fight does not end.

So we have a lot of washing machines and refrigerators, they have no end in sight.

[dmi.pris1]

Refrigerators and washing machines - a guarantee of "steel eggs", the will to destroy Ukrainians? Very doubtful. It is clear that microcircuits are not from a microwave, but that's not the point ...

[Bad_gr]

Quote: SKVichyakow

we have a lot of washing machines and refrigerators, they have no end in sight.

And if you remember that children's toys are now with microcircuits, and you can still pick them up, then the arrival of rockets is a long time.

[VPK-65]

children's toys now with microcircuits, and you can still pick them up

Here is a list of things that it would not be bad to pick up:
https://static.rusi.org/RUSI-Silicon-Lifeline-final-updated-web_1.pdf
Of course it's theirs "guesses" based on the study of the wreckage of our missiles, and not the truth in the first instance ...

[Charik]

and even if you can run around the garages-sheds, you can actually get as much, my friend bought a garage from his grandfather-wife, there was so much Soviet "trash" (radio components) there was horror, they took it out for six months, these aluminum kmki and all that

[HUMANOID]

So we have a lot of washing machines and refrigerators, they have no end in sight. I'll give a couple of washers and cold water for banderlogs, it's not a pity

[Vlodek]

Refrigerator "Oka3".
Works if turned on so far...
No microchip is visible. Campaign stealth technology? 30 years as huts are littered with stealth. How much more is enough!!!

[Murmur 55]

dmi.pris , but it was this desire to fight, was it originally ?!

[Thrifty]

Yes, if we have at least a million high-precision missiles, with political agreements on the surrender of cities, and with gestures of goodwill, we will fight there for more than a dozen years!

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

Intelligence of NATO and Ukraine made a mistake with the forecasts on the "ended" missiles from Russia

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- "There is still gunpowder in the powder flasks!" ...

— Happy Holidays! ...

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[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

An American intelligence officer to a Ukrainian intelligence officer: Well, what about Russia's missiles?
UR-yes stopudovo already end!
AR- OK! This is, as you say, great news!

NRU - American intelligence officer:
Well, what about Russia's missiles?
AR-yes stopudovo end!
NRU-Duzhe great news !!!

President U - to the head of intelligence U: Well, what about Russia's missiles?
NRU-stopudovo end!
PU-Where infa?
NRU-Americans confirmed for sure!
PU-Duzhe great news!

[Incvizitor]

Why would they end if they are baked like pies?

[Egoza]

Quote: Incvizitor

Why would they end if they are baked like pies?

They didn’t look into the pantry, but there were a lot of things in store.

[Diana Ilyina]

I so suspect that the pantry was intensively filled all these 8 years. If we started in 14, as many "patriots" demanded here, then they would quickly run out. And the economy would hardly survive.

[Normal]

I read your comments and admire. You very subtly feel the "nerve" of what is happening, always healthy and without tantrums.

[Aviator_]

And the economy would hardly survive.

In 2014, we didn’t even have our own payment system, the integration into the West was beyond.

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

I so suspect that the pantry was intensively filled all these 8 years. If we started in 14, as many "patriots" demanded here, then they would quickly run out. And the economy would hardly survive.

I immediately said that in the 14th we were not harnessed because of our unwillingness to fight with NATO, but now there are enough missiles, it’s just not worth releasing them all, all of a sudden NATO thinks something bad, they should have enough.

[MBRSS]

There were missiles in 2014, and there were no special targets for them then - the Armed Forces of Ukraine were in decline. Question: in 8 years, what has risen more steeply - the combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or the economy of the Russian Federation? (I will not say anything about the rise of dill propaganda)

[YOUR]

From an interview with Boxer.
The Russians fired 16 missiles at Kyiv yesterday, all 16 were shot down, and only two broke through.

[Alexy]

This is what an idiot you have to be to believe about the use of the element base from household appliances for the military-industrial complex.

[Thrifty]

Alexy-steam microprocessors are used there, we use them only to create starships

[Sergey985]

You may be surprised, but there is no difficulty in this. In case of emergency, it is a perfectly acceptable option. At least for calibers.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Sergey985

You may be surprised, but there is no difficulty in this. In case of emergency, it is a perfectly acceptable option. At least for calibers.

We make modern electronic meters on our microcircuits. About 15 years ago I went to study on these counters and even then the release of microcircuits for them was not a problem. I talked with a production worker, he complained about the quality of our plastic for microcircuit cases, so at that time microcircuits were made on ceramics. And the electricity meter (I studied on them) according to the complexity of the Spectrum computer level. Again, this is 15 years ago.
I don’t know for sure, but I assume that the topic of the problem with the shortage of microcircuits for military equipment is sucked out of thin air.
PS
By the way, at that time, American Alfa meters were installed on some lines at substations, with similar functionality to ours. The price of their counter was $1000.

[Vlodek]

Now any phone is "smarter" than the computer that Buran easily and reliably landed in very difficult conditions on the runway. I think that Calibers are also equipped with similar computers, which just as easily and reliably reach their destination

[MBRSS]

Most e. elements in the military-industrial complex are universal: the same controllers, processors, PLAs, transistors, capacitors and resistors as in everyday life. Made on the same equipment. Another thing is that it makes no sense to pull, if you can buy.

[cniza]

On the contrary, they admit that Moscow could increase the production of missiles, since it supposedly stocked up on the necessary components in advance even before the start of a special military operation in Ukraine.

Guess as much as you like ..., answer for all the troubles ...

[NSV]

If only they didn’t start to feel sorry for the 404s again!!! Bomb the infrastructure, the remnants of the co-industry!!! It’s impossible here otherwise! These creatures don’t understand otherwise !!!

[Nikolaevich I]

Here escho antiresno! Has it been a long time since the "critical infrastructure" of Ukraine began to spread rot? And what an effect! But several months passed "into the empty", as Uncle Mitya said in "Love and Doves"! Although, practically, all military experts, and just people with military experience, spoke about the need to do this! Why did this happen? I don't know and I can't understand! But the result of such inaction: the resulting distrust and disrespect for the military command of the Armed Forces of Russia ... and for the leadership of the country as a whole!

[Luka Nord]

In the spring, even the GDP said that 10 missiles are produced in the Russian Federation per day and this number needs to be increased to 100. Looks like our military-industrial complex has reached this level!

[Popov I.P.]

Due to the natural stupidity and stupidity of the young growth of ukrostrategists, they only have to carry nonsense on chips from refrigerators and washing machines. If they were smarter, well, at least they talked to the veterans of the Yuzhny Design Bureau, they would have told them that there are closed documents of the Military-Industrial Commission categorically prohibiting the use of imported element base in serial weapons and military equipment. Again, the household element base for military equipment is simply not suitable because of the more stringent requirements for resistance to ionizing radiation and the damaging factors of nuclear weapons, vibration and shock loads, temperature conditions (the same Avangard flies at a speed of more than 20 Mach in a plasma cloud) etc. One exception was made: at the stage of development and testing of weapons and military equipment, subject to the adoption of measures for the production of domestic analogues for the launch of weapons and military equipment in a series. In the Russian Federation there are Mikron and Anstrem enterprises and not only, microelectronics is also produced in allied Belarus, it may be that it is super modern in size in NM, speed and built-in memory, we may not be able to do it yet, but also a 200-ton " Sarmat" is not a cell phone, and a modern CD is also not a mini product. And this is where the legs grow from: at the tactical level, imported quadrocopters, radio stations, night vision devices, sights, etc., get into our units from over the staff at the expense of sponsors. general purpose. This is a consumable item that greatly facilitates combat activities. It is clear that Ukrainians can find anything in a downed non-standard Chinese quadcopter. Frau von der Lein (a gynecologist by training) was especially successful in replicating this version. She should probably be advised to better look into certain organs in accordance with the profile education, and not to replicate another stupidity.

[Oleg Ogorod]

Gauges, Iskanders and mopeds do not fly in space. They also sneeze on radiation from a nuclear explosion.
A chip from a phone or a router is more convenient in a rocket than a chip from a refrigerator. The processor is the processor. It's about the software and the actuators.
And yes, there is a ban on the use of imported materials. But if there are Russian counterparts.

[MBRSS]

Due to the natural stupidity and stupidity of the young growth of ukrostrategists ...

Have you brought another batch of hats? Our "wise minnows" and "multi-move" handed over to "stupid and stupid" you know what.

[Aleksandr_26]

There are missiles, but it is better to save them, save them up by December-January: let them slightly repair the destroyed ones, and in the established cold it will be possible to warm the skakuas with the heat from missile strikes. Although, there is hope that the Ragul will have enough brains to foresee what kind of winter awaits them, and they will leave the country in advance. After all, you have to be an idiot to just stay in such cities, but what if some of these cities are blocked? (without light, heat, water, food, and at the same time, the "valiant" National Battalion soldiers will not let anyone out along the gum corridors)

[Oleg Ogorod]

If you do not heat in the winter, the entire heating system will fail. In all houses it will be possible to throw away batteries and pipes. They will be perforated. And in all industries. One summer is not enough to restore everything.
I think it’s not just that they are now talking about the need for negotiations. To give a respite to Bandera until spring. Even now they will freeze the war, they will not demand that Russia leave the territories, they will pump up new weapons until spring, train the army, hire new mercenaries, there are few fools who want to fight in winter, and spring will begin to come again. It's like stopping the offensive in the Donbass by inventing the Minsk agreements. Then it really was possible to reach Kyiv and the western border. The army was combat-ready and there were no weapons in Ukraine at that time. Everything came later.

[Fan-fan]

Guys, we must hope for the power of the army and our affairs are bad if we hope for frost and winter. Since the age of 14, I have been regularly reading comments that Ukraine will not survive another winter. How many winters have passed? Although comments have already been added that Europe will not survive the winter.
Unfortunately, they will not freeze, in vain some of our people hope so.

[Last centurion]

Isn't it obvious that there are many times more missiles than nuclear warheads. Since all warheads have a carrier, plus a reserve, plus it’s just a tactical weapon and a reserve for carrying it, plus a conventional one. That is, there are tens of thousands of them of all kinds. I remember the transfer of military acceptance there when they lie in pallets in the workshops and in the background they are made and taken out like hot cakes.

[voyaka uh]

It's not about the warheads.
For cruise missiles, the most expensive part is the turbojet engine. Such an engine is laborious and expensive. Therefore, there is no mass production of CR.

[Arsen1]

Sounds interesting. But if this is so, why do we need Shaheds, ktr are used not as loitering ammunition, but as a cruise missile, and why do we need to purchase Iranian missiles