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There are details about a civilian car blown up by a mine in the Bryansk region

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There are details about a civilian car blown up by a mine in the Bryansk region

On the territory of the Bryansk region, near the village of Azarovka, a car was blown up by a mine. Telegram channel SHOT has published some details of the incident. So, it became known that a farmer and a veterinarian were in the car.

The farm manager, a 54-year-old man, was driving a car. He died in the hospital from his injuries. The passenger of the blown up car was a local veterinarian. He was in the hospital with a contusion, fracture and contusion of the chest.

Recall that on November 16, near the border with Ukraine, a car with local residents ran into a mine. There was an explosion. The victims were taken to the hospital, where one of them, unfortunately, died. It is assumed that the mine was planted by a Ukrainian sabotage group.

Since October 19, the Bryansk region has been a region with an average level of response. This level of response involves strengthening measures to protect public order and the introduction of an increased level of security at infrastructure facilities.

The incident with the mine indicates the need for early action to strengthen the defense of the region, including strengthening the border guard and air defense of the Bryansk region. Now the power structures of the region will have to prove in practice whether they are able to ensure the safety of the civilian population or not.
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  1. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 17 November 2022 10: 37
    -21
    "The incident with the mine indicates the need" to replace the supreme commander. This commander-in-chief is broken, bring a new one.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 17 November 2022 10: 51
      +11
      As long as no mines are blown up on Red Square, do not expect any reshuffling in the highest echelons of power. But, something tells us that even if a motorcade is blown up by mines at the entrance to the Kremlin, you know who, we will be told that "we have not started yet" and "everything is going according to plan" ..
      1. vadim_ivanov
        vadim_ivanov 17 November 2022 11: 35
        -2
        Because the slogan Everything Goes According to the Plan was invented for a reason. It can be inserted into any speech of any meeting with any end result. Pu smart"
    2. The comment was deleted.
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 17 November 2022 12: 06
        +2
        Does he have somewhere to run? And yes? Are you the employer of the supreme? Since with such a clear "we will replace and imprison" belay
        1. AUL
          AUL 18 November 2022 14: 02
          0
          Quote: dmi.pris
          Are you a supreme employer?

          Actually, yes! Who do you think?
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 18 November 2022 14: 38
            0
            You, as an employer under the Constitution. But you can twist it as you like. So drink water, employer ..
            1. AUL
              AUL 18 November 2022 18: 00
              0
              Quote: dmi.pris
              You, as an employer according to the Constitution, but you can turn it around as you like.

              Here I agree with you 100%!
    3. ABC-schutze
      ABC-schutze 17 November 2022 13: 40
      +7
      The most practical and prompt solution in this situation is the creation of a militia armed by the state from local residents. Equipped with means of communication and, mainly, on its own transport (refueling, - "at the expense of the treasury").
      Adult men - from 20 to 65 years old, say, according to the developed duty schedule ...

      Which will conduct round-the-clock duty and patrol, incl. and night, in areas of residence and on nearby communications and near infrastructure facilities ...
      1. Raccoon Raccoon
        Raccoon Raccoon 17 November 2022 16: 55
        +3
        Don't even think! As soon as this SVO began, I proposed at one of the specialized forums to start creating a "people's militia" from the male population, limitedly fit and unfit for military service, on the basis of police strongholds and district commissioners. For it is clear that the load on the l / s of law enforcement officers will increase many times in connection with the SVO, and there is already a shortage of up to 40% (for example, in the PPSP, I saw it myself). Well, arm these people not only with red armbands, but also with something non-lethal. I am convinced that we are on the verge of a surge in crime (theft, robbery, robbery). Judging by my garage array. For 15 years before the NWO, garages were opened, God forbid, if twice. Three times in the past month! On that forum, I was banned forever, because there is no need to escalate! The idea of ​​self-organization of the popular masses frightens even the popular masses themselves. And if we take into account how many weapons are in the hands of the population on completely legal grounds, then the picture becomes simply "terrifying", at least for the authorities. Which, as it was correctly noted here, will not hit a finger on a finger until mines begin to explode under their asses.
      2. AUL
        AUL 18 November 2022 14: 08
        0
        Quote: ABC-schütze
        Equipped with means of communication and, mainly, on its own transport (refueling, - "at the expense of the treasury").

        Why, let them equip and refuel at their own expense, because they need it!
      3. gafovec
        gafovec 19 November 2022 01: 05
        0
        Why run them? Give weapons, let them spin as they want.
      4. Vladimir100
        Vladimir100 19 November 2022 08: 19
        0
        Maybe it's better to go to the front. finish it faster.
    4. astra wild2
      astra wild2 17 November 2022 13: 49
      -4
      "Bring a new one", but where can I get it?
      1. AUL
        AUL 18 November 2022 14: 13
        0
        Well, yes, the country has become depopulated ... Where can one get a smart and honest one? Ifneontowho?
        1. astra wild2
          astra wild2 19 November 2022 06: 58
          0
          "smart and honest" in words, they are all "smart and honest", but in reality?
          1. AUL
            AUL 19 November 2022 08: 41
            0
            Quote: Astra wild2
            "smart and honest" in words, they are all "smart and honest", but in reality?

            Who are you talking about now? lol
  2. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 17 November 2022 10: 39
    -10
    Now the power structures of the region will have to prove in practice whether they are able to ensure the safety of the civilian population or not.

    And why should they? The Sheriff's Indians don't care.
    1. ordin64
      ordin64 17 November 2022 10: 44
      +15
      Well, if the Scientist made his way to the "Military Review", then what can we say about the Ukrainian DRGs that cross the border like a knife through butter.
      1. Bingo
        Bingo 17 November 2022 10: 48
        +7
        Batteries were brought to TsIPSO. In an hour or two they will sit down, and the "scientists" will run out, they will again be taught pan rods in the stable
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 17 November 2022 11: 30
          0
          And if there is a bicycle with a dynamo and pedaling Svidomo? It's going to be a long wait...
          1. Bingo
            Bingo 17 November 2022 11: 37
            +2
            What a bike - they don't even trust the forks and the spoons are only plastic
      2. 4ekist
        4ekist 17 November 2022 11: 45
        +1
        ordin64 ...... pass the border like a knife through butter.

        Or rather, like rats crawling through all possible cracks. Destroy ruthlessly creatures.
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 17 November 2022 12: 10
          +1
          There are plenty of local rats there. And this applies not only to the Bryansk region
  3. O. Bender
    O. Bender 17 November 2022 10: 39
    +17
    Is our border transparent?
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    2. Vita vko
      Vita vko 17 November 2022 10: 54
      +15
      Quote: O. Bender
      Do we have transparent borders?

      Nothing surprising
      A donkey loaded with gold will open the gates of any fortress.
      . The border is no exception. Moreover, in Russia there are also quite a few freaks who, for money, will lay a mine even on Red Square.
      Here we need the principled position of the Government on the transfer of the NMD to the KTO, as well as the blocking of all economic channels with Ukrainian terrorists and Western sponsors. But unfortunately, the oligarchic lobby is only increasing the outflow of funds from Russia abroad, despite the sanctions and the growth of victims on both sides.
      1. Jcvai
        Jcvai 17 November 2022 11: 13
        +1
        There is another important nuance for decision makers: as far as I know, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation located in the Bryansk and Belgorod regions, in the Crimea, on ships in the Black Sea are not considered participants in the SVO (respectively, payment, insurance, status, the possibility of using conscripts); with a "format change" this may need to be revised...
        1. Dilettante grandfather
          Dilettante grandfather 17 November 2022 11: 45
          +5
          There is another important nuance for decision makers: as far as I know, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation located in the Bryansk and Belgorod regions, in the Crimea, on ships in the Black Sea are not considered participants in the SVO (respectively, payment, insurance, status, the possibility of using conscripts); with a "format change" this may need to be revised...
          The format has nothing to do with it. If people, DRGs, smugglers, tourists “accidentally got lost, the compass showed north instead of south,” it means that the protection of the state border is carried out very badly. If a terrorist attack occurs on the territory of the country, it means that the FSB overslept this terrorist attack. And now military operations are being carried out, the NWO is being carried out, or peace on the whole planet - it doesn’t matter. Either the work gets done or it doesn't.
          1. Jcvai
            Jcvai 17 November 2022 12: 42
            +2
            It's one thing when a border guard walks around the border on a shift, it's another thing to shoot back, hiding from mortars.
            Roughly speaking: “in normal mode” a doorman is enough to control access to the apartment, but this will only work until the crowds climb through the windows of different rooms - here the “peacetime scheme” will not work.
            Accordingly, new personnel will be required, a significant increase in costs .. which is what we are talking about.
            1. Dilettante grandfather
              Dilettante grandfather 17 November 2022 13: 00
              +3
              If the DRG broke through the border with a fight, then I’m not sure that they could then mine something. But if they just crossed the border, taking advantage of the negligence of the border guards, then they have the cards in their hands. There should be a PCB at the border and any marks on it clearly visible. And this PCB should be carefully examined when going around the outfit. It doesn't matter if it's peacetime or wartime. Didn't you notice, did you miss it? They didn't do their duty. Noticed and considered insignificant? This already pulls on treason. No increase in staff is required, it is enough that the border guards will do what they are supposed to.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 17 November 2022 18: 26
                +1
                Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
                If the DRG broke through the border with a fight, then I’m not sure that they could then mine something. But if they just crossed the border, taking advantage of the negligence of the border guards, then they have the cards in their hands.
                Yes, the jester knows him, it was from the other side of the DRG, or is it a local "amateur" from among the "forced" migrants. In order to draw any conclusions, one would also need to know the type of IED that was laid down, whether this is a self-made product, or mass-produced. As I understand it, life support facilities, energy and transport communications, fuel depots and military facilities are chosen as the target for sabotage for DRGs sent from outside, but not the farmer’s car, which, as a goal, devalues ​​the risk of using DRGs. Here, most likely, it is necessary to wool the local, or near-local population, among which initiative "sympathizers" or "refugees" recruited by the SBU could dig in. So it’s not a fact that the border guards missed it. winked
                1. Dilettante grandfather
                  Dilettante grandfather 17 November 2022 19: 03
                  +1
                  I do not argue, there could be both canned, and sympathizers, and simply drug addicts, ready to do anything for money for a dose.
                  life support facilities, energy and transport communications, fuel depots and military facilities are selected as the target for sabotage for DRGs sent from outside, but not the farmer's car,
                  So the farmer's car was not an unconditional target, as far as I understand from the article, the mine worked on the road, and not in the car itself.
      2. Ratibor_A
        Ratibor_A 17 November 2022 11: 47
        -1
        Quote: Vita VKO
        Quote: O. Bender
        Do we have transparent borders?

        Nothing surprising
        A donkey loaded with gold will open the gates of any fortress.
        . The border is no exception. Moreover, in Russia there are also quite a few freaks who, for money, will lay a mine even on Red Square.
        Here we need the principled position of the Government on the transfer of the NMD to the KTO, as well as the blocking of all economic channels with Ukrainian terrorists and Western sponsors. But unfortunately, the oligarchic lobby is only increasing the outflow of funds from Russia abroad, despite the sanctions and the growth of victims on both sides.

        Maybe it's worth paying ordinary people such a salary so that they don't think about how to find money for food and would be ready to lay a mine on Red Square for money? I don’t think that any manager of Gazprom agreed for the money, let alone take it into his hands ...
        1. Vitaly.17
          Vitaly.17 17 November 2022 13: 46
          +3
          Quote: Ratibor_A
          I do not think that any manager of Gazprom

          As you know, "appetite comes with eating" therefore, the higher the salary, the less ethical brakes a person has. So the manager of Gazprom will agree to a crime for money much faster than a simple worker or unemployed.
    3. fiberboard
      fiberboard 17 November 2022 11: 38
      +7
      And now, in the course of "optimizing" the border troops, in order to reduce "unreasonable costs", the number of personnel (especially in units directly guarding the border), the number of outposts, equipment, special equipment has been significantly reduced. I explain to you more accessible, using the example of the Border Guard where I served. They reduced the number of posts at the outposts, increased the number of headquarters in the detachment. Officers' wives were recruited into these headquarters, so that they would not sit idle at home either. Accordingly, the number of outfits guarding the state border has decreased. You won’t send your grandmother. They sharply reduced the limit of fuel and lubricants at the outposts, respectively, the outfits went on foot or on horseback. For example, to go at night to set up an outfit with a radar station, the opportunity was once or twice a month. But every day there was always gasoline to take the son of the deputy head of department to school in a service UAZ and pick him up from school. An order came to reduce the personnel from Moscow - they reduced one of the OMD (mobile action department - a unit directly involved in protecting the most remote border participants and acting as a reserve). The money content was done as in MO. Only in the Defense Ministry can military personnel often see their family, and here you are sitting at the outpost for 10-11 months. In addition, at the end of each month, checks are sent to the outposts with the task of depriving everyone who can of money. At the end of the year, the head of the department and the circle of his associates divide this money as savings. All this led to a flood of people wishing to serve in the PV. Recently, I talked with colleagues. None of them is eager to go to the border with Ukraine. They pay less, they can injure or kill, but payments are not allowed, not the NWO zone. So here we have it like everywhere else: chic, brilliance, beauty.
    4. 4ekist
      4ekist 17 November 2022 11: 49
      0
      So this is already in the zero, and now ???

      So not everywhere. With us you can go to the wooded area, and go out to the adjacent territory. True, there are metal signs "border strip" on the fields.
    5. Nik2013
      Nik2013 18 November 2022 17: 54
      0
      So it was in the USSR under the KGB border troops.
  4. Nexcom
    Nexcom 17 November 2022 10: 40
    +16
    Bandera bastards. They are masters of fighting civilians, they are masters of naughty Khimarsami on civilian objects. Recycle!
    How many more civilians must die before this Banderva is finally besieged harshly?
  5. matsur
    matsur 17 November 2022 10: 48
    +3
    What prevents them from going deeper into the country?
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 17 November 2022 11: 06
      +1
      Going far inland - there is a higher risk of sleeping and not completing the task, IMHO
  6. gromit
    gromit 17 November 2022 10: 49
    +2
    No details.
    Did he hit a mine on the road or drove through the field?
    What is the distance to the border?
    Are works being carried out on the territory to create a fortified defense line?
    1. Dilettante grandfather
      Dilettante grandfather 17 November 2022 11: 47
      0
      A mine, on our territory, installed either in an open field or on a highway, is already an emergency. It doesn't matter where, if it is not a restricted area, a closed and protected area.
      1. gromit
        gromit 17 November 2022 12: 25
        +2
        Look.
        It was definitely not a "forbidden zone, a closed and protected area"?

        Now you can dump anything on the DRG. But I don’t think that saboteurs will risk their lives and expensive equipment by blowing up random collective farmers (with the deepest respect for farmers)
        And the tendency of our people to cut through the ranges and military units is well known to me.
        Even if you cover the whole district with signs, there is only one answer - there is no fence, I have been living here for 50 years, we have always walked here.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 17 November 2022 10: 50
    +7
    The incident with the mine indicates the need for early action to strengthen the defense of the region, including strengthening the border guard and air defense of the Bryansk region. Now the power structures of the region will have to prove in practice whether they are able to ensure the safety of the civilian population or not.
    They wrote everything, everyone knows what to do ... so what? Who and when WILL DO???
    Or again ... "we did not prepare for such a war"!
    The question is ... what were you preparing for?
    1. Dartanian
      Dartanian 17 November 2022 11: 15
      -3
      To the red carpets with flowers in Kyiv, with a pompous public procession with portraits of the guarantor of the red lines, so that trucks with full keys to all Ukrainian cities would drive along the procession ... you can’t imagine analogues of this stupidity that they are in the Kremlin. None of them thought that the economy, the army, and in the end, at least first-aid kits, should be prepared for war .... Effective managers in a word
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 November 2022 12: 16
        0
        Another bad fact...
        The question is ... who and when will fix the imperfections?
        For today, there is no hope, but after, after, the day after tomorrow it may be too late.
        1. Dartanian
          Dartanian 17 November 2022 14: 20
          -3
          This takes time and desire and of course competence, it is unlikely that anything will be corrected so those who did it should correct it, and when there is no responsibility there are no corrections
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 17 November 2022 15: 08
            +1
            Those who did this ... no, no, no, they should be sent away and longer.
            We need competent and reliable people to be able to do and be responsible for what has been done.
            1. Dartanian
              Dartanian 17 November 2022 16: 46
              -3
              Who will let these people go? :))) such people are unlikely to participate in cuts and theft, they are not empty there
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 17 November 2022 19: 14
                +1
                What can I say ... we'll see.
                The situation is now, either - or! No one will offer us a third option.
  8. yuriy55
    yuriy55 17 November 2022 10: 59
    +6
    The incident with the mine indicates the need for early action to strengthen the defense of the region, including strengthening the border guard and air defense of the Bryansk region.

    And eight months was not enough to turn the border into a BORDER?
    Downright criminal carelessness...
    In the south of the Bryansk region, 6 districts border Ukraine - Klimovsky, Starodubsky, Pogarsky, Trubchevsky, Suzemsky and Sevsky. The total length of the Bryansk section of the Russian-Ukrainian border is over 350 kilometers.

    Less than 2 km per day...
    1. laws70
      laws70 17 November 2022 11: 11
      +2
      Out of 350 km, there are both well-fortified and impassable sections. Banderlogs will not go there or there. Treat the rest of the plots with "Agriculture". And from the Ukrainian side. Moreover, the mushroom pickers are over, except for the DRG, no one wanders through the forest.
  9. svoroponov
    svoroponov 17 November 2022 11: 15
    +1
    Weird. A military source from the Bryansk region initially claimed that there were soldiers in the car.
    The explosion took place 200 meters from the border, where our military drove in to reconnoiter the area, without agreeing or receiving permission from the border guards and without an escort who knows the map of our minefields in the area.
    It is not entirely clear what civilians were doing there in the immediate vicinity of the border in the border zone and under the security regime that exists there now, or is this the second case?
  10. Emergency
    Emergency 17 November 2022 11: 21
    0
    If the farmer had graters with his business partners, then it’s a nice thing to put a mine under the talk about the border with Ukraine. On which DRG to mine a country road? What would strange people about the Kremlin and the commander-in-chief try to joke about? It is clear that the matter is dark.
  11. Eug
    Eug 17 November 2022 11: 22
    +1
    In general, one sometimes gets the impression that
    state structures in Russia do anything, but not what they were created for ...
  12. tralmaster
    tralmaster 17 November 2022 11: 45
    -1
    All these explosions anywhere for the sake of what would we somehow scared. Here, the pig banders are already calling on us to change our leaders. I don't understand the moderators' code. Or they covered your eyes with bucks. The pigs are at home, or maybe this is their home.?
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 17 November 2022 11: 57
    0
    It's time to revive SMERSH, no matter how sad it sounds, but apparently there is no other way
    1. Jcvai
      Jcvai 17 November 2022 12: 51
      0
      In theory, of course, but in practice, I suspect, it will be the same supply manager of yours, only with the rights of a quick trial and sentence.
      The system itself will not work, no matter how many counterintelligence agents you recruit. Initially, at the current level, it is required to get rid of the selectivity of the application of laws, then from "repugnance", and after that, to add the missing structures and personnel to them.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 18 November 2022 09: 01
        0
        Quote: JcVai
        Initially, at the current level, it is required to get rid of the selectivity of the application of laws, then from "repugnance", and after that, to add the missing structures and personnel to them.

        Of course, you need to decide first if it’s a war or not. Otherwise, a lot of decisions look strange
  14. svp67
    svp67 17 November 2022 12: 38
    +1
    On the territory of the Bryansk region, near the village of Azarovka, a car was blown up by a mine.
    Isn't this the Novozybkovsky district?
    If yes, then both the Ukrainian and Belarusian borders are nearby. And where did the DRG come from?
    1. Vladimir 290
      Vladimir 290 17 November 2022 13: 33
      +1
      Yes, maybe it wasn’t the DRG that worked there, how many Banderaites have arrived under the guise of refugees and migrants, and it turns out that there are locals, home-grown. And a specialist can manufacture and deliver an explosive device, especially on such a road. Yes, and mines from the Second World War can probably still be dug up in the Bryansk region. We have the entire Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB, which must fight such evil spirits and switch to the appropriate mode of service.
  15. astra wild2
    astra wild2 17 November 2022 13: 34
    0
    "strengthening the border guard and air defense", colleagues, I risk running into misunderstanding, but I will say: air defense will not protect against DRGs. The war has been going on since February 24, and until October 19, hundreds of RDGs + "5 columns" could pass through the border, but it has always existed and will exist."
    I think it is necessary here: the FSB should be in close contact with the local authorities, and the more often it should communicate with the local residents. This is the only way to reduce the risk of a repeat of what happened.
    And many of us can say: I talked with the local authorities and am satisfied with the result?
    We used to have a "quarter" harmful to the brink, but through it it was possible to resolve issues with the local authorities. Now someone else, but who?
    In such conditions, the DRG is easier to work with
  16. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 17 November 2022 14: 24
    -1
    Quote from Matsur
    What prevents them from going deeper into the country?

    And nothing interferes. Remember the murder of Daria Dugina. Killed in Moscow. The terrorist calmly entered and left through the border checkpoints. She did not crawl through any fields, forests, swamps.
  17. sub307
    sub307 17 November 2022 14: 49
    -2
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Are you a supreme employer?

    We are all his "employers", since we have chosen. The president is not a king, but just an elected official and is obliged to be responsible to the people who elected him. In any case, no one canceled the impeachment procedure.
    1. Alexfly
      Alexfly 18 November 2022 12: 48
      -1
      You are right, only one BUT: who will impeach? Most of the BUCKET?? There are only opportunists there .. Having robbed once, he is unlikely to engage in patronage .... Then, the president is an elected position, but it doesn’t seem like he’s been jumping on the same chairs for 22 years ... And the retinue is appropriate .. Where to find that young man who shouted: King then naked!
  18. Alexfly
    Alexfly 18 November 2022 12: 44
    0
    Organize a territorial defense, train this militia in military affairs, let them catch the DRG and end up on the spot .. The prosecutor's office will then give confirmation or imprison those presumptuous ...