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Russian journalist: The transfer of the released forces from Kherson to other directions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is recorded

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Russian journalist: The transfer of the released forces from Kherson to other directions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is recorded

The regrouping of Russian troops from the right bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region is designed not only to save the lives of our military, but also to strengthen the grouping of the RF Armed Forces in other priority areas.


At the same time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which occupied the right bank, which was higher and more convenient for defense, received a similar opportunity and have already begun to use it.

So, the Russian military commander Andrey Rudenko in his TG channel writes that for four days in Slavyansk (Donetsk region), local residents have been recording the arrival of new units and military equipment. At the same time, it is reported that the soldiers are arriving from the Kherson direction, which they themselves allegedly declare.

Obviously, Slavyansk acts only as a "transshipment" base. In the future, the reinforcements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who arrived from the south, may go to reinforce the group defending in Bakhmut, or to Kr. Liman to strengthen the onslaught on the defense line of the RF Armed Forces in Kremennaya.



However, according to Rudenko, the transfer of forces to Slavyansk and attempts to attack in the Luhansk or Donetsk directions are only a distracting maneuver. The main goal of the Ukrainian command is a strike in the Zaporozhye direction in order to cut the land corridor to the Crimea and deprive our group in the Kherson region of supplies.

It is worth noting that various experts have already spoken about this option. In addition, Vladimir Rogov, a representative of the Zaporizhzhya VGA, has repeatedly stated recently that the enemy continues to accumulate forces in this direction.
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  1. Uprun
    Uprun 16 November 2022 12: 16
    +19
    We speak, we see ...., then - they spoke, they saw.
    1. dorz
      dorz 16 November 2022 12: 18
      +5
      You can achieve much more with a kind word and Caliber than with a kind word alone.

      Al Capone
    2. Sergio_7
      Sergio_7 16 November 2022 12: 27
      +3
      It remains to be hoped that we do not just see, but also work on goals.
      1. alekseykabanets
        alekseykabanets 16 November 2022 12: 37
        +5
        Quote: Sergio_7
        It remains to be hoped that we do not just see, but also work on goals.

        I'm afraid that for the time being we are working more on TV with the words of Konashenkov, unfortunately.
    3. Cananecat
      Cananecat 16 November 2022 12: 41
      +3
      Quote from uprun
      We speak, we see ...., then - they spoke, they saw.

      And they didn’t do anything ... or they did it, but not like that ... let's see who is learning what.
    4. credo
      credo 16 November 2022 12: 43
      -5
      There is some reason to doubt that it is the transfer of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Kherson, and not replenishment from the western regions and from courses in NATO countries.
      The simple logic of events suggests that, having entered Kherson, the enemy has taken an advantageous position from which he can try to continue to continue the offensive towards the Crimea.
      Therefore, the talk that allegedly the residents of Slavyanka heard that the arriving units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from near Kherson can be banal disinformation.
      After all, we must take into account that we are at war with the NATO bloc, and not just with Ukraine.
      1. alekseykabanets
        alekseykabanets 16 November 2022 12: 58
        +1
        Quote: credo
        After all, we must take into account that we are at war with the NATO bloc, and not just with Ukraine.

        Just the same with the entire NATO bloc? You repeat stupid things from TV. When Soviet specialists helped the Vietnamese comrades, this did not mean at all that the USSR was at war with the USA.
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  3. opuonmed
    opuonmed 16 November 2022 12: 17
    +5
    oh narkivat to all these columns vsu !!!!!!!
    1. Grandfather Mozai
      Grandfather Mozai 16 November 2022 12: 25
      0
      Opportunities are there, orders are not. We observe, then we receive.
  4. I dare to_notice_
    I dare to_notice_ 16 November 2022 12: 18
    +4
    If it were not for the locals and the Russian journalists of the RF Ministry of Defense, they would have been blind in general.
    I hope that there ... somewhere high ... in orbit ... since the times of the USSR, at least a couple of satellites have remained?
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 16 November 2022 12: 33
      +11
      The satellites remained, the eggs ran out .....
      1. alekseykabanets
        alekseykabanets 16 November 2022 12: 41
        +6
        Quote: Alien From
        the eggs are gone...

        Do you think they were? I remember more and more about "partners", about eggs, I don't remember.
        1. Alien From
          Alien From 16 November 2022 13: 02
          +7
          The Union, of course, had them, the current ones do not.
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 16 November 2022 13: 14
            +2
            Quote: Alien From
            The Union, of course, had them, the current ones do not.

            Unfortunately, the current state of the Russian Federation is the antipode of the USSR.
        2. yuriy55
          yuriy55 16 November 2022 13: 22
          +5
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          I remember more and more about "partners", about eggs, I don't remember.

          And I remember about those two gentlemen who transmitted and received posts:

          Did you smile? the most important thing is that the mouth does not burst.
          They came - young and energetic ... They became guarantors for the Yeltsin clan, for the preservation of Yeltsin's conquests ... So the hour has come when everyone in his post proves his professional suitability and relevance.
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 16 November 2022 13: 32
            +3
            Quote: yuriy55
            Did you smile? the most important thing is that the mouth does not burst.

            I get a sloppy smile. ((((
            Quote: yuriy55
            They became guarantors for the Yeltsin clan, to preserve the Yeltsin conquests ..

            So it is, you can not argue here. Why does Solovyov not sing about this.))))
            Quote: yuriy55
            So the hour has come when everyone in his post proves professional suitability and relevance.

            For their people (which is from the Forbes lists), they have proven their professional suitability and relevance.
  5. storm
    storm 16 November 2022 12: 19
    +9
    for four days in Slavyansk (Donetsk region), local residents have been recording the arrival of new units and military equipment.


    And what has the RF Armed Forces done to destroy these units and equipment on the march?
    1. Arkadich
      Arkadich 16 November 2022 13: 00
      +1
      A little tense up and you yourself will answer this question, which has already set the teeth on edge, as well as about bridges. What columns are you going to destroy? Do you think they are like on parade in tight formations at low speed? The distance of the cars is several tens of meters. Hit every rocket? Aviation? But in the depths of an enemy defense saturated with MANPADS, lose aircraft, and most importantly, pilots, despite the fact that the column is clearly covered by an additional umbrella. Movement is mainly at night. There remains a long-range MLRS and deployment sites. They strike there (Konashenko reports about this), but, the Armed Forces of Ukraine also throw up “false lies” for sure.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 16 November 2022 13: 41
        +8
        Quote: Arkadich
        but, the Armed Forces of Ukraine also throws up "false lies" for sure.

        And, most importantly, invisible and virtual forces are advancing ... It wasn’t, it wasn’t, and suddenly !!! belay request So it's a pimple!
        You understand that the Aerospace Forces have means of destroying areal targets WITHOUT ENTERING THE ENEMY AIR DEFENSE ZONE !!!
        There are long-range Russian MLRS with a range of up to 110 km !!! There are allied "POLONAISES" with a firing range of up to 300 km. There are rockets, artillery in the form of self-propelled guns "COALITION - SV" delivered to the troops ...
        Any column and places of concentration are tracked using reconnaissance UAVs and satellites. The decision-making time for the destruction of given (detected and identified) targets is calculated in seconds. The time of defeat, depending on the means of destruction - tens of seconds or minutes ...
        What we have?! A clear picture of remote control of a group of troops and units with a time lag. I can ONLY ASSUME that the leadership of the armed forces is not carried out from the General Staff with notification of what has been done. And there is the worst version of the leadership of political reinsurers with getting "go-ahead" from those who are guaranteed to exist with minimal damage ...
        Russia is not obliged to fight according to a bastard doctrine and use weapons depending on the opinion of the West (whether they like it or not). This is the path of defeat.
        1. Arkadich
          Arkadich 16 November 2022 17: 56
          -1
          I don't know what kind of virtual acne you have.
          And do not breed spy mania.
          As for the defeat from aircraft that do not enter the air defense zone, take a comparison of the performance characteristics of weapons on the SU25 "workhorse" and the performance characteristics of MANPADS, as well as air defense systems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The aircraft without entering the maximum reaches the front edge.
          We have not heard about the presence of Polonezes. Long-range MLRS, that ours, that the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on average, hit 20-40 km from the front line so as not to fall under return fire. Add here a large expansion when firing at maximum range. Further, the logical conclusion, knowing that I am entering the enemy’s zone of destruction, I break my column into smaller ones, movement along parallel roads, movement in the dark, camouflage. All your shooting turns into a waste of BC.
          Therefore, they work mainly in places of concentration that can be identified.
          1. yuriy55
            yuriy55 16 November 2022 18: 08
            +1
            I’m just too lazy to post data on the Tornado and Smerch MLRS ... Look for the data on strategic aviation and on the Koalition-SV self-propelled guns
            Quote: Arkadich
            movement on parallel roads, movement in the dark, camouflage.

            There, it’s not possible to drive along the main ones everywhere - mines ... And then they ran right away and gathered like royal hares ...
            1. Arkadich
              Arkadich 16 November 2022 20: 27
              0
              If you're lazy, then don't write.
              What are the mines in the rear, 80-20 km from the front line? Whose, if the RF Armed Forces were not there. Where can't you drive? A couple of weeks ago, we moved along and across the fields.
              And the "strategists" should not even come close to the enemy's air defense zone, and it's not their task to hammer the column.
      2. storm
        storm 16 November 2022 19: 06
        +1
        What columns are you going to destroy? Do you think they are like on parade in tight formations at low speed?


        Do you think it is possible to redeploy several brigades to a given area at one BMP per hour and two tanks per day with careful disguise as civilian equipment ..?

        There is no doubt that many kilometers of columns go along the roads day and night ...
        And there is no doubt that Tornadoes / Tornado-S, aviation and Iskanders should fire at them ...
        The more of them are destroyed on the march, the less soldiers and officers we will lose later, when these units deploy in battle formations and take up defense in fortified areas.
        1. Arkadich
          Arkadich 16 November 2022 20: 32
          0
          Must! Not even a shadow of a doubt.
          I am writing about opportunities, not everything is so simple and there is no need to look for some kind of ephemeral bosses who can but do not give.
  6. Pharmacist
    Pharmacist 16 November 2022 12: 20
    +8
    Well, it wasn't hard to predict. When they left the right bank of the Dnieper, they should have thought about this. In general, in the Second World War, Leningrad, Stalingrad, Sevastopol, Malaya Zemlya, etc., were not just simply not surrendered, preventing the enemy from releasing excess forces. Looks like it's a new concept...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 16 November 2022 12: 25
      +6
      Quote from Pharmacist
      not allowing the enemy to release excess forces.

      And they left the high right bank for the low left bank! Strategy and tactics!
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 16 November 2022 13: 11
        +7
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        And they left the high right bank for the low left bank! Strategy and tactics!

        Sound strategy and infallible tactics! fellow
        You can understand if there is nothing and there are no opportunities. You can’t even imagine that there is something, there are opportunities, but we haven’t started yet, because we haven’t given the go-ahead from the Kremlin ...
        The question is:
        Anto how, your mother,
        Sorry to understand?
        1. AdAstra
          AdAstra 16 November 2022 13: 50
          +3
          And in response, silence and the chirping of a lone cricket hi
  7. jovanni
    jovanni 16 November 2022 12: 21
    +13
    The regrouping of Russian troops from the right bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region is designed not only to save the lives of our military, but also to strengthen the grouping of the RF Armed Forces in other priority areas

    What a coincidence! The surrender of Kherson without a fight saved the lives of the Ukrainian military, and they were also allowed to withdraw their units from there in order to increase pressure on other sectors of the front. Who would have thought that this would happen!
    1. zloba71
      zloba71 16 November 2022 15: 23
      -3
      It also saved the lives of our military, saved the city of Kherson itself and allowed the transfer of part of the forces in order to strengthen the defense in other sectors of the front. Who would have thought about it?
      1. storm
        storm 16 November 2022 19: 20
        +1
        Russia's withdrawal from the Kherson region allowed the Armed Forces of Ukraine to announce general mobilization in Kherson and the region, which will allow them to form several additional brigades from "new citizens" of the Russian Federation.
        How should this be treated?
        Should they be considered traitors to the Motherland or how to other soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
  8. saigon
    saigon 16 November 2022 12: 22
    +2
    Such a thing is that the right bank in the Kherson region is somehow not on the high steeps, in principle the same plain as on the left, well, a couple of meters, probably the difference is either they didn’t see the mountains or they’re talking horseradish, understand what.
    1. solar
      solar 16 November 2022 12: 49
      +3
      On the left, floodplain meadows are flooded, flush with the water level.
      The right one is not mountains, but higher.
      1. saigon
        saigon 16 November 2022 17: 09
        0
        In some places, it is worth noting such a picture in some places is observed in places evenly
  9. Dartanian
    Dartanian 16 November 2022 12: 24
    +5
    The transfer goes with impunity... All the time it is said that the Ukrainians receive information online from satellites, but where are our satellites? Rogozin Sarmat is now in the DPR, this trampoline balabol, and after all, no one asks him where the satellites are? Is it really impossible to cover these transfers?!?! Well, in the end, it’s not underground that they are transferring troops
  10. was-witek
    was-witek 16 November 2022 12: 24
    +7
    Something I did not understand the author. We left the right bank due to the possible flooding of the grouping and the inconvenience of positions. And here the author claims that the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are now more favorable. After our departure, the Armed Forces of Ukraine found themselves in an uncomfortable position and now they are threatened by flooding as well.
    1. gafovec
      gafovec 16 November 2022 12: 32
      +4
      This is the strategy of the 21st century. To go to the left, LOWER bank, to the lines prepared in advance ... Who prepared them in advance? And where?
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 16 November 2022 12: 26
    +1
    Russian journalist: The transfer of the released forces from Kherson to other directions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is recorded
    The main thing is that intelligence should provide accurate, objective data ...
  12. gafovec
    gafovec 16 November 2022 12: 29
    +6
    It seems that one of the arguments of our regrouping on the left bank of the Dnieper was the release of part of the troops in order to accelerate the liberation of Donbass?

    And here the Ukrainians seem to be releasing troops.. Who is accelerating in the end?
  13. maxim1987
    maxim1987 16 November 2022 12: 30
    +8
    I wonder how the life of a Russian fighter in Kherson, according to the Moscow Region, differs from the life of a fighter near Zaporozhye?
    1. navigator777
      navigator777 16 November 2022 12: 35
      +3
      Quote: maximNNX
      I wonder how the life of a Russian fighter in Kherson, according to the Moscow Region, differs from the life of a fighter near Zaporozhye?

      Yes, nothing, in Kherson the transfer of reinforcements was complicated and ammunition. And with the onset of winter and the freezing of the Dnieper, it would become even more complicated.
  14. Hanurik
    Hanurik 16 November 2022 12: 37
    +4
    So he can hit himself where necessary, so that later he does not defend himself where he is not ready?
  15. oleg-nekrasov-19
    oleg-nekrasov-19 16 November 2022 12: 42
    +3
    Bridges across the Dnieper require demilitarization: - 9 road bridges (2 of which are also used as a metro bridge); 6 bridges are affiliated with hydroelectric power plants (some bridges have railway tracks); 4 railway bridges; 7 combined bridges (road and rail) and 1 pedestrian bridge .. Total: 25, there are coordinates, we are probably waiting for the maximum number of APU reserves to reach the left bank? Then, of course, railway bridges in Western Ukraine suggest themselves.
    1. Sebostyuan
      Sebostyuan 16 November 2022 13: 05
      +1
      There isn't much choice
      The first one will cross after us (at the risk of losing bridges behind him)
      Second. Stay on the other side and watch how the strike force of the Russian Federation 40 thousand aims at Zaporozhye.
      Ps. Bridges must be undermined in any scenario. KAB-1500 is a true friend and assistant in such cases.
      You can also use the "Dagger". In order not to enter the air defense zone.
      Therefore, they left Kherson, that they plan to destroy the dams as well.
      Maybe my plan looks optimistic, but it is not as fantastic as many people think.
      1. oleg-nekrasov-19
        oleg-nekrasov-19 16 November 2022 13: 08
        0
        Your plan is realistic and, most importantly, feasible, but in what time frame?
        1. Sebostyuan
          Sebostyuan 16 November 2022 13: 38
          +1
          It is necessary to wait, which of the two options will choose for themselves VSU.
          1. oleg-nekrasov-19
            oleg-nekrasov-19 16 November 2022 14: 11
            0
            So I also think that now a "pause" has been taken on the theater of operations, until the enemy's plan is revealed, in fact they are preparing a strike on Zaporizhia, or is it more informational throws. Moreover, it is necessary that the reserves arrive at the deployment sites in battle formations and their first echelons as part of the assault detachments take any action, either of an attacking or reconnaissance nature, the first in priority.
      2. storm
        storm 16 November 2022 20: 46
        +1
        Bridges must be undermined in any scenario. KAB-1500 is a true friend and assistant in such cases.


        The UPAB-1500B-E guided gliding bomb is designed to destroy ground and surface small-sized strong and extra-strong targets such as reinforced ZhBU, command posts. An inertial satellite guidance system is used.

        This "thing" will probably be more effective ...
  16. betta
    betta 16 November 2022 12: 45
    +2
    But it won’t happen that in order to save the lives of our soldiers, a maneuver will be made in order to improve positions to ... In vain the ministry said so, that way you can retreat far right up to .... When will there be a positive one?
  17. Arkady007
    Arkady007 16 November 2022 12: 47
    +1
    Rudenko knows everything who will be where and what will happen. And that's the way it is in our government. Only no one wants to go to the front line.
  18. Leshak
    Leshak 16 November 2022 13: 05
    +3
    The transfer of the released forces from Kherson to other directions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is recorded

    As if someone doubted that it would be so. Now we need to make sure that this transfer, ukram, is not an easy walk.
  19. Prokop_Pork
    Prokop_Pork 16 November 2022 18: 44
    -1
    In order not to be transferred, they lure them to the left bank. Already announced the evacuation of the inhabitants of Aleshki.