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Dark horses of the SVO: special weapons systems, information on the use of which in Ukraine is limited or absent

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Dark horses of the SVO: special weapons systems, information on the use of which in Ukraine is limited or absent

Previously, we reviewed other "Dark Horses of the NWO" - air defense systems, aviation weapon systems and ammunitionand ground weapon systems, information on the use of which in Ukraine is limited or absent.


Now let's talk about complexes, the work of which is difficult to see with the naked eye.

BLK "Peresvet"


Combat laser complex (BLK) "Peresvet". Until now, there is no exact information either about the tactical and technical characteristics of the complex, or about its purpose, or at least about what type of laser it is built on. Possible options for constructing this complex were previously considered in the material Secrets of the Peresvet complex: how the Russian laser sword works?.


BLK "Peresvet". Image by wikipedia.org

The special military operation (SVO) in Ukraine did not add clarity - can the Peresvet BLK somehow influence the situation?

One of the main problems of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) is that Western collaborators of the Nazi Ukrainian regime supply the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) with comprehensive intelligence information in real time, or close to it. At the same time, they use not only military and "official" reconnaissance satellites, but also do not disdain commercial intelligence satellites that have the potential to outperform their government intelligence brethren.

What is Peresvet capable of and is it capable of anything at all? It is clear that attacking military satellites can be fraught, but what difference does it make how many Starlink or Capella Space satellites fail?

“They” will know” - well, let them know, go and prove ... We also know a lot of things - that one of the NATO countries blew up our gas pipeline, that the soldiers of the NATO countries are fighting under the guise of mercenaries, that they issue target designation to enemy weapons, but we don’t attack NATO countries, we even try to “make friends” - they say, “we don’t hold evil.”

In general, what "Peresvet" is good for - it is not known whether it can be used during the NWO - it is not clear. Have they applied? Probably not, but who knows...

ABLK "Peresvet"


Speaking of BLK "Peresvet", one cannot but mention aviation combat laser complex (ABLK) "Peresvet". Most likely, if it exists, it is only in the form of prototypes. Or maybe they don't exist.

It's a pity, because in the current situation ABLK "Peresvet" could be extremely useful.

For example, in order to “spoil the wings” of an American UAV flying off the coast of Crimea. Yes, and on early warning aircraft (AWACS) with crews, you can “work out” - there will not be enough power to bring down the plane, so the crew will be so incapacitated that it will no longer be able to land the plane, and this is fraught with well-known consequences ...

ROC "Zadira-16"


The Zadira BLK was developed as part of the above-mentioned R&D, there is even less open data about it than about the Peresvet BLK. More precisely, it is known that, according to information voiced by Deputy Prime Minister of the Government of the Russian Federation Yu. Borisov, the Zadira BLK not only entered service with the RF Armed Forces, but is also used during the NMD in Ukraine.

Unfortunately, if there is at least some information about the operation of anti-aircraft missile systems (SAMs), although not about all of them, then there is no data at all about the use of the Zadira - not only about work in the NVO zone, but in general - in principle.

Complex "Rat"


The Rat multifunctional mobile complex with a system for directed laser destruction of unmanned aerial vehicles was presented at the Army-2020 forum.

According to available information, the Rat complex includes a radar station (radar) for detecting unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) at a distance of up to three and a half kilometers, electronic warfare equipment (EW) for suppressing communication channels and controlling UAVs at a distance of up to two half kilometers, and a laser designed to physically destroy the UAV, the characteristics of which were not disclosed.


Multifunctional mobile complex "Rat"

However, after the end of the Army-2020 forum, there was no more information about this complex.

EW "Tirada-2S"


The sinister Elon Musk weaves his machinations - he supplies the APU with the latest satellite terminals, which not only provide the APU with real-time communication, but also allow them to create long-range UAVs and unmanned surface ships (BENK). We still cannot shoot them down, although potentially there are options.

And then, one day, Elon Musk's rhetoric changed dramatically - they say, he has little money, Ukraine is too expensive for him, and then, as if evil, some problems arose with communication. The proud Ukrainians could not endure such a shame - they tore off the posters with the face of the benefactor Elon Musk, tore them to shreds and trampled them in anger.

And here information about "Tirade" appears on the scene. It was as if Elon Musk was afraid that his satellites would stop working altogether, or had already stopped working, but not because of funding problems, but because of the impact of the latest Russian electronic warfare complex (EW) Tirada-2S.


Electronic warfare complex "Tirada-2S". Image of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

What do we know about this complex?

And almost nothing. It seems to be there - for the first time in 2017, the deputy head of the 2th Central Research Institute of the Russian Ministry of Defense Oleg Achasov reported on the Tirada-46S electronic warfare complex. He also said that the Tirada-2S mobile electronic warfare system is designed for electronic destruction of communication satellites and is being created as part of the weapons modernization program for 2018-2027.

Has the electronic warfare complex "Tirada-2S" been developed? Did he appear in the troops? Is he present in the NWO zone? Was he involved in jamming Starlink terminals? There is no information about this.

And there is also information about a certain Rudolph complex, which seems to be intended for the physical destruction of enemy satellites, but there is no information on it at all, except that it was only made public that it is also being developed as part of the aforementioned weapons modernization program for 2018-2027.

SPR-2 "Mercury-B"


Okay, “Tirade” is there or “Rudolf”, but is there also an electronic warfare system SPR-2 “Rtut-B” with “Soviet roots”, designed to initiate radar fuses with remote detonation?


SPR-2 "Mercury-B". Image by wikipedia.org

This complex is designed to interfere with radio fuses of ammunition, that is, ammunition with a radio fuse must be detonated at a height that excludes or minimizes the possibility of hitting a given target.


Real work of the complex

It seems that Mercury-B is used in Ukraine, the enemy even demonstrated a burned-out complex of this type in Kyiv (information not confirmed). However, from time to time information about the use of ammunition with high-altitude detonation appears, and they work, apparently, regularly.


The remains of the Rtut-B electronic warfare complex, demonstrated in Kyiv (frame from a video on youtube.com)

In any case, there is almost no information about the operation of the SPR-2 "Rtut-B" electronic warfare complex, as well as about the operation of other electronic warfare systems - are they effective, how effective?

At the same time, as mentioned above, some types of enemy weapons use radio fuses, which multiply their effectiveness. The ability to ensure their detonation at a safe distance would be very handy.

EW "Krasukha"


Anyone who has heard of the abbreviation EW knows about the Krasukha EW complex. Presumably, "Krasukha" should suppress the enemy's radar, as well as communication and control channels of the UAV. The range of the latest version of the Krasukha-4 complex is estimated at 150-300 kilometers.

These complexes, apparently, were sent to the NVO zone, but it is not known what results they achieved there.

Why are Ukrainian counter-battery radars operating freely, not distinguished by high power, and not three hundred kilometers, but not further than twenty from the line of contact? Why is the sky open not only for the military, but also for civilian Mavik-type UAVs? Apparently, it’s not worth talking about early warning aircraft (AWACS) of the enemy or Global Hawk-type UAVs.


EW complex "Krasukha". Image by wikipedia.org

Of course, it is quite possible that we "do not know something", just as we do not know what why Zelensky walks around Kherson with a satisfied face, and is not covered with a blow from Iskander or Dagger. Come on, you are a clown, not a clown, but in history will enter as one who for a year (still incomplete), how to put it more decently, wiped his nose to a great power.

But, according to the open press, in March 2022, one of the Krasukha electronic warfare systems was captured by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the outskirts of the city of Makarov and, according to The Daily Telegraph, was transferred for examination to the US Air Force base in the city of Ramstein, with subsequent shipment to the continental states for detailed study.

Conclusions


What can be said in general about combat laser systems and electronic warfare systems?

Their contribution to the victory over the enemy can be the most important, but so far, based on open data, it’s somehow impossible to say that they have a significant impact in the NVO zone - satellites of Elon Musk and enemy UAVs are flying, enemy air defense systems and counter-battery systems are working radar.

Why? We don’t use it at full strength - are we waiting for the “last and decisive battle”? So you can really wait.

Or you can not wait, but burn a third of the Starlink satellite constellation and jam communications over half of Europe. If possible. Then you won't have to wait for anything - because no one will dare to attack, seeing examples of possible consequences. And so, we have what we have. We pay for other people's accounts with the lives of our fighters.
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  1. ecolog
    ecolog 20 November 2022 06: 05
    +21
    we know we don't know anything, and if we do, we won't tell you...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 20 November 2022 06: 45
      +12
      Quote: ecolog
      we won't tell you...

      And if we say, you will not understand!
      And if you understand, then shut up! belay
      1. Mazunga
        Mazunga 20 November 2022 07: 19
        +8
        it doesn’t matter what you know and others don’t know because others don’t know what you know and you don’t know what others know))) I think someone kosherly sawed the budget under the guise of all sorts of fake whistles
        1. ramzay21
          ramzay21 21 November 2022 10: 56
          +10
          Judging by the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine freely do whatever they want, two conclusions arise. Either all this is inefficient and does not work, or it is not used. If so, then that is a crime.
          If these complexes are not applied, then this is deliberate sabotage and treason.
          If they are not effective, then this is sabotage and damage to the defense capability of our country.
          In normal times, these are execution articles with confiscation of property.
          1. Timur_kz
            Timur_kz 22 November 2022 02: 00
            +4
            Yes, because they are all projections. The military are not enemies to themselves, if all these electronic warfare, Almaty and others were really effective, then they would be used everywhere and everywhere, to the holes, as they say.

            If KAZ Afghanit on Armata would really be effective, believe me, she would be sent to the front, purely to stare at how effectively Afghanit would intercept the stugna.

            All these EWs are also most likely not effective, otherwise they would be used everywhere and often, especially since they jam their own. We don't have an interfering connection. It was possible to make the fuse remotely work in Afghanistan with a home-made land mine, but not with a Himers rocket ...

            If the Su57 really had stealth, then mobile air defense systems would have long been tracked down.

            It’s a shame to admit, but if polymers (microelectronics) are loved, then the funderwaffe will not appear, you can’t build a house without a foundation ...
      2. Yarik
        Yarik 22 November 2022 12: 49
        0
        something similar already happened once, only the citizens of one particular country did not know, but everyone who needed to know the cardon and even knew very well
    2. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 20 November 2022 07: 16
      +7
      Quote: ecolog
      we know we don't know anything

      Such an article, about nothing!
      1. huntsman650
        huntsman650 20 November 2022 09: 23
        +8
        This is your comment about nothing))). I remember bravura reports about no analogues in peacetime they showed us. But in fact?
        1. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 20 November 2022 20: 27
          +2
          Quote: huntsman650
          This is your comment about nothing
          Dear! Have you learned something new from what has already been said here a hundred times?
          1. huntsman650
            huntsman650 20 November 2022 23: 53
            0
            I found out that I have a huge family....
      2. EMMM
        EMMM 21 November 2022 00: 24
        0
        There is one smart idea: remove the GPM! And then we'll see...
    3. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 20 November 2022 07: 47
      +3
      Quote: ecolog
      we know we don't know anything, and if we do, we won't tell you...

      This is classified information. smile
    4. AUL
      AUL 20 November 2022 10: 12
      +5
      Quote: ecolog
      we know we don't know anything

      The whole article is in this vein: "there seems to be something, or maybe not - XZ! We have no information."
      And what then was the article to fence?
  2. Belisarius
    Belisarius 20 November 2022 06: 50
    +5
    It's hard to find a black cat in a black room, especially if it's not there.
    All of the above refers to PR weapons, which "has no analogues in the world." Therefore, we receive a lot of information about the use of BMP-1, T-62 or D-1, but we cannot get information about the active use of everything listed in the article in any way.
    1. Ghost1
      Ghost1 20 November 2022 09: 46
      +8
      Apparently, many samples of the new are piece copies and more often they shone only at exhibitions. And the mass in the army is still Soviet stocks. The truth is, where are these 76% of new weapons in the army, if this was often said in high ranks.
    2. Arsen1
      Arsen1 20 November 2022 12: 11
      0
      Plus, on such things like electronic warfare, it is very easy to cut headstock. Showed once to the authorities how Krasukha landed a drone during the exercises, and get a lot of money for development. And the fact that, in fact, this is a useless PR machine, no one cares, the money has already been mastered
  3. yuriy55
    yuriy55 20 November 2022 06: 56
    +7
    Or you can not wait, but burn a third of the Starlink satellite constellation and jam communications over half of Europe. If possible. Then you won't have to wait

    This is what most users of the site think about. it is adequate responses that can change the state of affairs and the situation as a whole.
    But the impression is that Chubais took away from the country not only millions, but also some secret materials that make it possible to hear from the GDP something like:

    remains, as well as the assumption that these materials are in a safe place ...
    *****
    Sometimes I would like to hear from a person the truth about the mistakes and mistakes made in the past and the desire to change this radically in the future ... “Fuck you, you didn’t come out with a face!” - is heard in response, - "I have long exchanged a dagger for a collection of watches."
    1. Third district
      Third district 20 November 2022 07: 50
      +8
      Quote: yuriy55
      But the impression is that Chubais took away from the country not only millions, but also some secret materials that make it possible to hear from the GDP something like:

      It's funny to look at attempts to justify the red Tolik, a thief and a traitor.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 20 November 2022 07: 58
        +5
        Quote: Third District
        It's funny to look at attempts to justify the red Tolik, a thief and a traitor.

        It's already ridiculous to look at attempts to justify someone who is trying to justify the red-haired Tolik! laughing
  4. tlauicol
    tlauicol 20 November 2022 07: 01
    +8
    The capabilities of electronic warfare, apparently, are greatly exaggerated by lovers of mythology. Strictly speaking, even the passport data is not impressive. What is this "range up to 2,5 km" with equipment against a drone on the chassis of a three-axle truck ?!
  5. Amateur
    Amateur 20 November 2022 07: 04
    +4
    We have such devices, but we will not tell you about them ...
    (Group "Mango-Mango")
  6. ism_ek
    ism_ek 20 November 2022 07: 11
    +12
    Why? Don't use it to its full potential

    Because the enemy has perfect reconnaissance systems and high-precision weapons. And most importantly, he uses these tools very harmoniously. Dozens of minutes elapse between target detection and the use of high-precision weapons. We have hours or days.
    We do not have the opportunity to use electronic warfare equipment. The enemy immediately inflicts a fire defeat on them.

    And what about us?
    In November, counter-battery radars were destroyed, the same number as in the entire campaign. Because the Lancets have appeared. We visually, from a drone, find the enemy's radar and immediately send the Lancet. And this radar "shines" five times stronger than the transmitter on the Ostankino television tower. Detecting it from a DLRO aircraft presents no problems. But while the information is passed from one headquarters to another, hours or days will pass and the radar will move long ago.
    We have not yet reliably destroyed a single HIMARS launcher, but meanwhile the air defense officers have information about the position of these launchers. Yes, it expires after a few minutes. But why is this information not used?

    Unfortunately, our generals were not ready for modern warfare. Everything is the old man, we give commands with "flags".
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 20 November 2022 07: 50
      +7
      Our generals of the academy were finishing up ... there was no time for them to deal with such trifles.
      1. lelik613
        lelik613 20 November 2022 17: 31
        +3
        Assemble a consolidated regiment from them, "brigade commander" as a commander, shovels in hand and forward, to storm ...
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 20 November 2022 08: 03
      +4
      Quote: ism_ek
      But while the information is passed from one headquarters to another, hours or days will pass and the radar will move long ago.

      During the years of commercialization of the state structures of our country, the Defense Ministry was probably saturated with sleeping agents. And with the "effective" work of our FSB, you should not hope for cleaning from pests. And the Supreme Power is in no hurry to change something.
      1. KJIETyc
        KJIETyc 21 November 2022 18: 07
        0
        What agency? A pensioner who does not know how to use a mobile phone can know something about modern weapons and shy away from the word "Internet"? Even if you put on him stars the size of the Republic of Tatarstan, he will not cease to be an incompetent dinosaur stuck in 75.
    3. Vitaly.17
      Vitaly.17 20 November 2022 09: 41
      +6
      Quote: ism_ek
      Everything is the old man, we give commands with "flags".

      There's nothing to be done, chronic concussions and concussions make themselves felt.
      But that's not the point. And in the very system of career growth and promotion to higher positions. Even if in our Academy of Aerospace Defense in Tver, which trains officers for the most high-tech type of armed forces, there is not more than one general who would graduate with honors from the academy.
      It's just kind of a laugh. On the first floor of the hall there are two huge stands where, over a 60-year history, portraits of generals who graduated from the academy and students who graduated with a gold medal are placed - there is not a single coincidence!
      The only exception confirming the rule is General Barvinenko, Deputy Head of the Academy for Science, who, after entering the Academy, did not serve in the troops for another day.
    4. SSeT
      SSeT 24 November 2022 23: 11
      0

      ism_ek (Ilya), They answered absolutely exactly, in my words. hi
  7. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 20 November 2022 07: 57
    +9
    Probably all these complexes are in a non-working state and the calculations do not know how to use them.

    Served in 2004-2007 at RLC Zoo. The complex is new, but for 3 years I have never seen it in working condition, it constantly malfunctioned at launch, neither battery officers and artillery reconnaissance officers, much less soldiers, could work on it.

    Then it was all spit, but now it all comes out.

    Our army for the most part consists of window dressing, and the sooner we eliminate this shortcoming, the sooner we will win.

    But such complexes should not be scattered over the shelves in the amount of 1-2 pieces, but information in separate battalions and regiments, so that it is possible to transfer experience and more effective training when using them, and then in the event of hostilities, attach them to other units .
    And when such a complex is one per regiment, it is difficult to find specialists who can understand it.
    1. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 20 November 2022 22: 06
      +2
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Served in 2004-2007 at RLC Zoo. The complex is new, but for 3 years I have never seen it in working condition, it constantly malfunctioned at launch, neither battery officers and artillery reconnaissance officers, much less soldiers, could work on it.

      This article has been circulating on the Internet for fifteen years, if not more.
      Have a conscience, indicate the source from where you bring the blizzard ........
      He worked at the Zoo
  8. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 20 November 2022 07: 57
    +4
    Well, the situation with electronic warfare systems can presumably be explained by 2 "fundamental" reasons ... 1. The electronic warfare equipment that is in service with the Armed Forces "screwed up" during a real "test"; that is, their real effectiveness turned out to be much lower than expected! Then, it turns out, I was right when, in the comments on the articles on electronic warfare, I expressed distrust of the effectiveness of the "figures" of these articles, believing that in countering high-precision weapons, communications, navigation, the "physical" destruction of "this" Primary (!) (SAM, MZA, PRR, EMP-guns ....); and the use of electronic warfare is secondary!
    2. Electronic warfare facilities were (are) used very limitedly, occasionally due to the same kind as the unwillingness to strike at the infrastructure of Ukraine for several months, despite the fact that in Russia only babies did not call for this (!) ... that is, "And the roll knows him!" ...
    1. Peter1First
      Peter1First 20 November 2022 21: 38
      0
      Once they let it slip that during the "regrouping" from Kherson, EW deflected the Khaimars missiles from the crossing, allegedly successfully ...
      1. Timur_kz
        Timur_kz 22 November 2022 01: 44
        0
        Well, yes)) And so the Antonov bridge looks like a colander. Zvizdesh all this, if the electronic warfare would be effective against the Hymers, it would be used wherever possible.
  9. lopvlad
    lopvlad 20 November 2022 08: 03
    +1
    But, according to the open press, in March 2022, one of the Krasukha electronic warfare systems was captured by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the outskirts of the city of Makarov and, according to The Daily Telegraph, was transferred for examination to the US Air Force base in the city of Ramstein, with subsequent shipment to the continental states for detailed study.


    what is this open press data? tsipsoshny gossip or what?. If those same gossips are collected, then Russia captured the American Himars as early as 5 months ago, but even then this can be somehow understood because the MLRS complex is on the front line, unlike the same Krasukha, which is located deep in the rear of the troops under cover all of which is possible since it has a range of 300 km and consists of several machines.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 20 November 2022 10: 46
      0
      300 km - as I understand it, this is Krasukha 2, about the fact that she is already in the army - there is no information anywhere .. in addition, with such real work, clogging UAV channels at such a distance - a couple of dozen Krasukhas, would be enough, at least for drones in general didn’t fly over the entire front .. no one ever declared this fact anywhere, such as “near Kherson - drones don’t fly at all - they can’t” .. it means somewhere in your information, something is wrong, somewhere exaggeration of possibilities..
  10. Dartanian
    Dartanian 20 November 2022 08: 51
    0
    But in the NVO zone there is definitely a human trampoline Sarmat Rogozin with zero efficiency ... And where are the billions of Zin hidden in space?!?
    1. Mazunga
      Mazunga 20 November 2022 09: 00
      -2
      uh, sorry, but don’t drive into space, people know it in nature)))
  11. Oleg Ogorod
    Oleg Ogorod 20 November 2022 09: 02
    +3
    No one was going to fight, neither the generals from the Moscow Region, nor the creators of most of the advanced models of military equipment. They were created for parades and cut money for their creation and production of a certain amount.
    It is enough to study the history of the last years of the Kalashnikov concern.
    This is a private office, where Rostec has only 25% of the shares.
    Prior to this, the concern was publicly owned by a certain Krivoruchko, who suddenly decided to quit the business and moved to the Moscow Region to be responsible for the purchase of weapons for the entire Russian army. True, he sold the concern only two years after moving to the Moscow Region.
    To whom did you sell? A certain Alan Lushnikov was an ordinary lawyer in small business, then for several years he was an assistant to Dvorkovich, then he was appointed deputy minister of transport. After visiting them for a bit, he bought the Kalashnikov concern.
    These are such interesting pies with shoemakers.
    True, behind all this, one modest oligarch has long been looming, connected with both transport and weapons, well, the one to whom the head of Rostec recently came for his birthday, and when they wrote about it in one Tegram channel, Sobchak had to first flee the country, and then apologize to the head of Rostec.
    Therefore, one should not be surprised by the result of the CBO.
    Then all these oligarchs and figures in the West will also be rewarded for helping to remove Putin. If the president does not change the personnel policy now.
  12. Sadok
    Sadok 20 November 2022 09: 09
    +4
    Do you understand how a laser works in the atmosphere? this is not "Guest from the Future" with pirates and "piu-piu". do you understand how electronic warfare works? and that she simply cannot crush satellite tyr-tyr-no from Mask?
    1. Mazunga
      Mazunga 20 November 2022 11: 07
      +4
      a laser in the atmosphere, especially in fog or where there is a large concentration of particles in the air, is only suitable for highlighting itself, look, here it is, how beautiful I am, screw me with an escalibur)))
  13. Roman Efremov
    Roman Efremov 20 November 2022 09: 53
    -2
    How to use Peresvet - burn American military satellites? This is a war with the USA. Burn satellites Mask (there will be no war with him)? In any case, this requires a political decision, first of all, which is not yet available.
    And as for the electronic warfare equipment - the devil knows how they are used! Recently there was a message about repelling an attack by Hymars shells - a small part of them were shot down by electronic warfare, according to our TV.
    1. Oleg Ogorod
      Oleg Ogorod 20 November 2022 11: 11
      -1
      Well, probably not shot down, deflected from the target, however, it is possible that it was blown up in the air if the fuse was not a contact one. But that's rarely the case. They probably hit the Antonov bridge with rockets with contact fuses.
  14. fiberboard
    fiberboard 20 November 2022 10: 07
    -1
    Ha, satellites burn, you know. Zelensky walks around Kherson. This author is not for average minds, you understand.
  15. svp67
    svp67 20 November 2022 10: 27
    0
    And about "Murmansk" it was also possible to "tell nothing")))
  16. usm5
    usm5 20 November 2022 10: 31
    -2
    Either all these complexes are just bullshit, or the Americans found control over them, or elementary cowardice takes place.
  17. Roman Efremov
    Roman Efremov 20 November 2022 12: 03
    0
    Quote: Oleg Ogorod
    Well, probably not shot down, deflected from the target

    Rather yes. I don’t remember how it sounded in the TV report, perhaps they said “reflected” there. But I remember the fact itself - for the first time I hear about the use of electronic warfare for such targets, usually we shoot them down with air defense and missile defense systems.
  18. Radikal
    Radikal 20 November 2022 12: 09
    0
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Our generals of the academy were finishing up ... there was no time for them to deal with such trifles.

    And the Supreme High Command, according to him, did not finish them, all the more, he is not up to "trifles" .... lol
  19. vadivm59
    vadivm59 20 November 2022 13: 38
    -1
    all electronic warfare equipment is a secret behind 7 seals. until the 90s, the abbreviation electronic warfare was applied only to Western equipment. well, as an "aircraft carrier-weapon of imperialism." and all this data about performance characteristics is nothing more than misinformation.
  20. Vodila
    Vodila 20 November 2022 13: 50
    0
    Each installation has a commander and deputy who are responsible for it. So why does the enemy capture them in their entirety? Maybe there is a commercial component?
  21. Marson35
    Marson35 20 November 2022 17: 29
    0
    As practice shows, all this was done for exhibitions and for the parade ...
  22. Alexander Lotsmanov
    Alexander Lotsmanov 20 November 2022 20: 12
    +2
    Zelensky will go down in history as a supplier of Ukrainian meat. Russia dealt with the Ukrainian military-industrial potential by the summer, after the Russian Defense Ministry, it is dealing with the military-industrial potential of NATO countries.
  23. werwolf1981
    werwolf1981 20 November 2022 21: 43
    -2
    Well, in parades, these complexes and dragging around exhibitions is one thing, but in real life, apparently there is no sense. Everywhere they talked about having no analogues, but in fact, zilch
  24. Russian Patriot
    Russian Patriot 21 November 2022 00: 35
    +4
    Why? We don’t use it at full strength - are we waiting for the “last and decisive battle”? So you can really wait.



    Our military electronic warfare has two gigantic shortcomings due to which it is not able to work at full strength.

    1) Damage is also done to their own

    We know how to interfere, suppress enemy communications, and so on. But! The same hindrances act in exactly the same way on our own means!
    And how to deal with them is not clear. Any use of "Krasukha" - no one has a connection in the district.
    Therefore, electronic warfare equipment is used extremely limitedly.

    2) Lack of EW funds

    There are simply very few of them. And the service is extremely difficult.
    1. yanus
      yanus 21 November 2022 09: 57
      +3
      Quote: RussianPatriot
      We know how to interfere, suppress enemy communications, and so on. But! The same hindrances act in exactly the same way on our own means!
      And how to deal with them is not clear. Any use of "Krasukha" - no one has a connection in the district.
      Therefore, electronic warfare equipment is used extremely limitedly.

      Physics, you heartless bitch...
  25. Woo dee
    Woo dee 21 November 2022 05: 59
    +1
    Why don't they change? Maybe because they are not there or they are in single copies.
  26. MaxN
    MaxN 21 November 2022 07: 23
    +1
    Jamming mavics is not a problem at all, they operate at frequencies of 2.4 or 5.8 GHz. The operator is generally an easy target for some kind of phased array missile. And if there is none, then it would be possible to make the simplest one, with a range of up to 20 km, with homing to radiation. But who needs it.
  27. staer-62
    staer-62 21 November 2022 08: 11
    0
    If they don’t talk about something and don’t use something, then it means that it doesn’t exist and there is no need to pretend about a terrible secret. There is no weapon, or there is no spirit to use it as an example of nuclear. In the West, they have long known that they deserved it more than once, and they even wonder why they are not bombed with nuclear weapons? And everything is simple, ours do not have the strength of mind. It’s easier to pretend that you don’t understand what is happening about such people, they say “pretended to be a hose”, this is about our politicians.
  28. Sedoy
    Sedoy 21 November 2022 19: 55
    0
    just as we don’t know why Zelensky walks around Kherson with a satisfied face, and is not covered with a blow from Iskander or Dagger

    well why...
    if you believe the statements in the media, then there is a direct ban, starting with Raisins ...
  29. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 21 November 2022 22: 25
    +1
    In general, sometimes fixation on precisely army tests. It greatly complicates the adoption of systems and their use ..... The same Derivation with 57mm and suo would greatly help to fight UAVs. Not on the front line. For example, you can put on trucks like Tornado. And mobile and sharply strengthen air defense
  30. Vlad Gor
    Vlad Gor 24 November 2022 20: 27
    0
    There's a lot to discuss about what isn't. For example, there is no A-100 Premier of the Russian airborne early warning and control aircraft (AWACS), they have been promising for 20 years what will happen tomorrow, etc.
  31. Chernorechye
    Chernorechye 25 November 2022 18: 29
    0
    If all this worked effectively, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine would not trample the Russian land so calmly and Zelya would not go to Russian Kherson. And it's all just empty words. I know one thing that the Russian army was methodically destroyed for decades. The officers were fired. Dozens of military schools were destroyed and their property was sold to whoever needed it. I remember how Shoigu rustled about the fact that Russia does not need a large army, we will kill everyone with missiles. And in fact, we see what happened because of these idiots.
  32. BigMaxMack
    BigMaxMack 26 November 2022 18: 41
    -1
    An interesting article could have been, but as soon as I saw the phrase about the Nazis, I decided not to read further. I would like to read analytics about these complexes, and not propaganda ...