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Russian expert: There was no Ukraine on the territory of Novorossiya and could not be

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Russian expert: There was no Ukraine on the territory of Novorossiya and could not be

In 2014, after the historic return of Crimea to Russia, the information space began to talk more and more about the revival of Novorossiya.


Recall that the date of its foundation is March 22, 1764, when the Russian Empress Catherine II took up the arrangement of the Black Sea steppes. This territory from the Don to the Dniester is primordially Russian, which any historian will undoubtedly confirm.

At the same time, the modern Kyiv authorities, who are adherents of some mythical "ancient Ukrainian state", claim that this territory has always belonged and belongs to Ukraine.

A Russian expert, journalist and dean of the Higher School of Television of Moscow State University named after M.V. M.V. Lomonosov Vitaly Tretyakov.

According to him, between the Crimea, which was in the vassalage of the Ottoman Empire, and the Russian Empire until 1764, there was what was then called the Wild Field. There was no state at all in this sparsely populated territory.

Empty, naked steppe, with separate, insignificant cities

- summed up the journalist.

Thus, as Tretyakov put it, there was no Ukraine on the territory of Novorossia at the time of its annexation to the Russian Empire, and could not be.

What is called Ukraine is the Cossack Republic. She was farther north then.

- added the expert.

At the same time, Tretyakov noted that the decision of Catherine II to annex these lands that belonged to no one was absolutely justified. Indeed, through this territory, regular raids were made on our country from the Crimean Khanate.

Any normal state should have stopped this

- said Tretyakov.

Finally, the expert stressed that if Russia had not populated these lands then, they would have been “appropriated” by the Ottomans or Poles.

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  1. vitvit123
    vitvit123 15 November 2022 17: 50
    -1
    I already (so far) don’t really care what was there, I’m very worried about what will be there ... these experts ...., although one would be sent to the general headquarters ..
  2. Altmann
    Altmann 15 November 2022 17: 51
    +1
    The time has come when Ukraine must be returned to its original borders. We ask, has Ukraine come out as an independent state, if you do not take only riots and uprisings? Will Russia be able to continue attacking its language, culture and identity of its people. I believe that everything is clear, even if it may be a very hard military conclusion. Enough said! am
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 15 November 2022 17: 52
    +8
    Russian expert: There was no Ukraine on the territory of Novorossiya and could not be
    . Who needs to prove what?
    Now the WINNER will write the history and rules!!!
    And this place/right must be OURS!
  4. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 15 November 2022 18: 00
    +1
    Well, it has long been known that the TPI cities were founded and settled by Russian people when Ukraine did not exist. From the word, absolutely.
    Potemkin even resettled his serfs there. And the program for the resettlement of Russians from the central provinces existed in the middle of the 19th century.
    By the way, this is displayed by Gogol in his Dead Souls.
  5. Luminman
    Luminman 15 November 2022 18: 00
    +1
    Quote: Altmann
    The time has come when Ukraine must be returned to its original borders

    There was no Ukraine! So there were no limits! Moreover, the "original" ...
  6. yuriy55
    yuriy55 15 November 2022 18: 12
    +1
    Russian expert: There was no Ukraine on the territory of Novorossiya and could not be

    In order not to be ashamed before the ancestors for the blood shed, it is necessary to return everything and until then we will not have peace ...
  7. U-58
    U-58 15 November 2022 18: 34
    0
    This mantra must be repeated in the very Ukraine, which does not exist and never existed.
    And why in Russia do you need to crush water in a mortar?
    And so everyone has a single and correct attitude.
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 November 2022 18: 39
    -2
    Each country has its own history. Read about the Austrian Krajina
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Военная_граница
    But there were many such Ukraines, and only one country was blinded.
  9. Boniface
    Boniface 15 November 2022 23: 00
    0
    Here Russian Hackers need to "climb" into the UkrTV broadcasting network and insert smart films about Real History!
  10. ratoborets
    ratoborets 16 November 2022 02: 55
    +1
    Absolutely true, Novorossia was the frontier of the Russian state, where Great Russians (Russians), Little Russians (Ukrainians), Greeks, Armenians, Germans, Jews, Moldovans and Bulgarians were allowed to settle.

    As the frontier of the United States at one time - the new western colonies allowed the Germans, Irish, Italians to settle. Today in the US there are 60 million descendants of German colonists and 35-40 million descendants of Irish colonists. Well, this does not mean that the Germans or the Irish can call these territories their own, just like the Ukrainians cannot demand the territories where they were once allowed to live. Since it was one triune people (Great Russians, Little Russians, Belorussians), like the trinity of God in Christianity.

    Ukrainians who support the ideology of Ukraine-anti-Russia renounced their Russianness, Russian Orthodoxy and preferred to be at the service of the Anglo-Saxons, just like their Nazi-Bandera idols once were at the service of the German Nazis and the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
  11. nickname7
    nickname7 18 November 2022 12: 34
    +2
    Also given that it used to be the Middle Ages, the presence or absence of a state can be proved by the presence of monarchs and dynasties thereof. Monarchs in the Middle Ages are a kind of special breed or subspecies of a person, they married only representatives of their own breed and even relatives because of which they suffered from genetic diseases and carefully kept a family tree for all members of the royal offspring of children, wives of mistresses and bastards, as is done with thoroughbreds. dogs. laughing Moreover, genealogies were kept independently in each individual royal house of Europe in order to know exactly who you can marry or marry. Therefore, pedigrees cannot be faked. Even the history of countries can be described by the name of the monarch and the decrees that he issued, as well as the palace in which the kings lived.

    For example, the secondary Palace of Fontainebleau, which was home to the rulers of France from Louis VII to Napoleon III. Four monarchs were born in the palace - Philip IV the Handsome, Francis II of Valois, Henry III of Valois and Louis XIII. Napoleon abdicated here in 1814.
    So, Ukrainian kings are completely absent in the royal/royal dynasties of Europe. There is no palace court, no king, and therefore the state of Ukraine did not exist. Here the Russian monarchs existed who actually owned the territory on which Lenin later created the state.
  12. Vlad Gor
    Vlad Gor 18 November 2022 18: 05
    +1
    Capitalism is in the yard, and most people think as under socialism. Whole Ukraine is whose territory, whose property??? Most will say that this is the property of Russia. So why Russia does not want to return their property???
  13. Viktoo Kharitonov
    Viktoo Kharitonov 20 November 2022 08: 42
    0
    And why are the "experts" silent about the history of Belarus?
  14. Ivanov IV
    Ivanov IV 20 November 2022 12: 13
    0
    Unfortunately, the territory that was called "Ukraine" has become the subject of bargaining in modern times. Poor hucksters are ready to call it whatever, just to "warm up".
    And the Earth, watered with the Blood and Sweat of our great Ancestors, requires the Respect of the Descendants.
    It is imperative to return the Russian Lands under the roof of the Motherland-Russia.