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Stoltenberg: The outcome of the conflict with Russia must be decided on the battlefield

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Stoltenberg: The outcome of the conflict with Russia must be decided on the battlefield

NATO does not believe that Ukraine needs to sit down at the negotiating table with Russia, the alliance advocates the continuation of hostilities and achieving victory on the battlefield. This statement was made by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.


Stoltenberg spoke at a joint press conference with the heads of the Foreign and Defense Ministries of the Netherlands, where he answered a number of questions from journalists regarding Ukraine and possible peace talks with Russia. According to the Secretary General, the time for peace talks has not yet come, Ukraine does not have the position to dictate its terms, so the task of the alliance is to help the Armed Forces of Ukraine win on the battlefield.

At the same time, one should not underestimate the Russian army, which retained "significant capabilities" and "a large number of personnel," he stressed. Even the withdrawal of the Russian Armed Forces from Kherson did nothing to ease the situation of the Ukrainian army, which is waiting for "difficult months." Therefore, the task of NATO is to support the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the winter months and make sure that Kyiv wins as many victories as possible.

As the NATO Secretary General noted, the alliance does not want Russia to dictate its terms at the negotiating table, so the outcome of the conflict will be decided on the battlefield.

The only way to achieve a solution to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict is on the battlefield. Many conflicts are resolved at the negotiating table, but this is not the case, and Ukraine must win, so we will support it for as long as it takes

- declared Stoltenberg.

Earlier, NATO called on the member countries of the alliance to increase military assistance to Ukraine in order to prevent the victory of the Russian army.
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  1. opuonmed
    opuonmed 14 November 2022 18: 31
    +13
    well, as long as they see that the Ukrainians are winning and the Russian Federation is leaving
    1. Stakan
      Stakan 14 November 2022 19: 03
      -5
      The only way to achieve a solution to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict is on the battlefield.

      The devils have united again in a crusade against Russia and the Russian world! Today, the GDP signed a decree on the possibility of attracting foreign mercenaries to serve in the Army .. I don’t know if this is good or bad, but there will be a big massacre ahead.
      Will the Anglo-Saxons crush Russia?
      1. AlexTires
        AlexTires 14 November 2022 19: 56
        +3
        Russia will be crushed by the Russians, to whom the SVO is like a bone in the throat, because it prevents them from selling freebies
        1. Stakan
          Stakan 14 November 2022 20: 08
          -2
          Quote: AlexTires
          Russia will be crushed by the Russians, to whom the SVO is like a bone in the throat, because it prevents them from selling freebies

          Everything is so .. They flocked here and whine whine
          The fifth column apparently received grants (from the United States and the Jews) and began to work on all sites .. It is very sensitive now, go to any site and everywhere there is a subtle whine and howling of adherents of the West .. Hold on guys soldier
          Where ours did not disappear, but the trenches already need to be dug near the houses, just in case
          1. Bayun
            Bayun 15 November 2022 10: 20
            -4
            and without the 5th column, everything is unimportant, as in 1917. Then the poor imagined that they were cooler than the rich. Now Ukrainian and pro-Ukrainian think they are non-Russians. In 1917, the Russian devilry put on "red revolutionary harem pants", today they flaunt in the Ukrainian embroidered shirt.
            1. Canep
              Canep 15 November 2022 10: 56
              0
              NATO Secretary General says that "the outcome of the war with Russia ...."

              If this is not a declaration of war, then what is? Then why are we fighting only with Ukraine?
              1. Letun
                Letun 15 November 2022 11: 19
                +3
                Quote: Canep
                If this is not a declaration of war, then what is? Then why are we fighting only with Ukraine?

                One Ukraine is not enough already? Hold me seven?
              2. Bayun
                Bayun 15 November 2022 13: 20
                0
                No need to pay attention to the words "clowns" like the Secretary General of NATO, the UN or the head of the WHO, the IOC and other "infotubs" for ohlos.

                It is important to understand what the "Administration and Owners of this puppet theater" have in mind, and, if possible: not to be, not to be, not to participate in their farce.
            2. notingem
              notingem 15 November 2022 13: 31
              0
              Of course, the Reds were cooler. Belyaki and proud capitalists burst onto the ships
      2. Million
        Million 14 November 2022 20: 43
        +13
        When some are silent, while others are yelling, then everyone hears only those who are yelling.
        Ours, alas, are silent.
        1. Stakan
          Stakan 14 November 2022 21: 20
          +2
          Quote: Million
          When some are silent, while others are yelling, then everyone hears only those who are yelling.
          Ours, alas, are silent.

          Well said hi But keep in mind in whose hands the "world media" is and who owns them and gives instructions. Our statements are literally clogged with all sorts of fakes and accusations.
          In our history, this is already a constant tactic of all Russophobes ..
          So it’s useless to wait for understanding, only the Army and Navy can explain everything to them and shut up their rotten mouths
        2. sub307
          sub307 15 November 2022 11: 36
          +1
          Quote: Million
          When some are silent, while others are yelling, then everyone hears only those who are yelling.
          Ours, alas, are silent.

          So, they are silent, because there is really nothing to say .... About the "red lines" already ..., about the fact that everything is according to plan - it seems that you can’t hear more either .., about "strike on the centers ... "- alas," friends "to go to Kyiv not to be afraid of something. About the "demilitarization" and "denazification" of all of Ukraine, since this process is taking some kind of opposite turn (an official ban on the teaching of the Russian language in principle), they also don’t remember very much. So, they are silent ... thoughtfully, maybe they will take them for smart. feel
      3. gsev
        gsev 14 November 2022 20: 50
        -6
        Quote: Stakan
        Will the Anglo-Saxons crush Russia?

        If we use nuclear weapons in Ukraine in a timely manner, they may not be crushed. In the near future, several divisions from Eastern Europe and Africa will be brought into Ukraine, aviation from NATO countries and air defense capable of neutralizing all chances of the Iranian and Russian aviation industry to destroy Ukraine's energy. Until that time, Russia can use a series of 50 nuclear strikes on Ukraine to force Russophobes to abandon the solution of their Wishlist to eradicate the Russian language in Europe and destroy 2/3 of the Russian population (Walesa's words) through war.
    2. Shurik70
      Shurik70 14 November 2022 19: 04
      +4
      Well, yes. Before leaving Kherson, the rhetoric was different.
      That's just the world today is not the 20th century. Other people. They became more impatient.
      How long will NATO last?
      And Russia will survive. We are habitual.
      1. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 14 November 2022 20: 04
        +7
        The minus team went to work.
        1. Zakirov Damir
          Zakirov Damir 14 November 2022 21: 34
          +3
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          The minus team went to work.

          It's not like it's visible! One Gonzalez is still driving, and even then drunk in the ass.
      2. Fisherman
        Fisherman 14 November 2022 20: 32
        +7
        we will not only withstand, but also achieve such a VICTORY, with the memory of which NATO will walk under itself for a long time, 50 years.
    3. Peter1First
      Peter1First 14 November 2022 19: 13
      -9
      Oh, right on point! APU and do not think to stop after Kherson! Yesterday they took Makiivka, look at Kreminnaya they will enter .... What kind of "regrouping" will there be?
      1. Former soldier
        Former soldier 14 November 2022 19: 36
        +2
        Oh, right on point! APU and do not think to stop after Kherson! Yesterday they took Makiivka, look at Kreminnaya they will enter .... What kind of "regrouping" will there be?

        What kind of Makeevka?
        1. Peter1First
          Peter1First 14 November 2022 19: 53
          -7
          Say that Makeevka, which is near Svatov
      2. konstantin68
        konstantin68 14 November 2022 20: 04
        +4
        Quote from: Peter1First
        Oh, right on point! APU and do not think to stop after Kherson! Yesterday they took Makiivka, look at Kreminnaya they will enter .... What kind of "regrouping" will there be?

        Shaw, hotstsa see, comrade corporal, how do you have it there?
        Light it up, you'll be fine. I Kremenna, i Dukhonin's headquarters!
    4. crossbow
      crossbow 14 November 2022 19: 14
      +1
      It is not yet evening, it was not for nothing that it was stated that Russia had not yet begun to fight.
      1. novel66
        novel66 14 November 2022 19: 45
        +9
        So maybe it's time? Start something? And then...
        1. AlexTires
          AlexTires 14 November 2022 20: 27
          +1
          They will say that it's too late to start .. That's why they will finish ..
      2. Stakan
        Stakan 14 November 2022 20: 13
        -7
        Quote: crossbow
        It is not yet evening, it was not for nothing that it was stated that Russia had not yet begun to fight.

        I think so too Vlad .. And we are already being handed over here on all fronts
        A Russian peasant is waiting for thunder and he is already thundering Especially inside Russia with the question How long?
        Give an order...
        Now the crowd is stammering, as usual, adherents of the West and shitocracy
      3. Letun
        Letun 15 November 2022 11: 24
        +1
        Quote: crossbow
        It is not yet evening, it was not for nothing that it was stated that Russia had not yet begun to fight.

        Yes, recently, GDP, in terms of the number of blunders, has been breaking all records.
    5. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 14 November 2022 19: 22
      -1
      Why do you think so? Well, your opinion is interesting, and not just what they saw, which they don’t know anything. I hope you know.
    6. SaLaR
      SaLaR 14 November 2022 19: 54
      +5
      well, as long as they see that the Ukrainians are winning and the Russian Federation is leaving
      a flock of rams led by a lion will always win a battle against a flock of lions led by a ram, where the ram sits and the lion, everyone can decide for himself
    7. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 14 November 2022 20: 01
      -3
      Quote: opuonmed
      well, as long as they see that the Ukrainians are winning and the Russian Federation is leaving

      you can see Putin's deflection with Kherson is again not counted, we are waiting for another gesture of goodwill from the Kremlin grandfather
    8. Ulan.1812
      Ulan.1812 14 November 2022 20: 06
      +10
      Quote: opuonmed
      well, as long as they see that the Ukrainians are winning and the Russian Federation is leaving

      Today Biden congratulated Zelensky on the capture of Kherson.
      This means that the flow of money and weapons will increase.
    9. Ryzhyv
      Ryzhyv 14 November 2022 20: 40
      -2
      They’ll stop ... At the beginning of the 22nd, a third of Ukraine stood near Kyiv and controlled it, but now they can’t go 2 kilometers for a month! Where have all the fighters gone? They died... And what's left? 15 rounds per snout at the training ground ... All the heroes died, but they are not going to teach the mobilized. Everything goes to the shameful defeat of Russia. A week ago I would not have thought to write this. Everything becomes like a farce. A terrible, ugly, insane farce with hundreds of thousands of people killed for nothing. For the money of the oligarchs and those who see the war as a business and a means to achieve their temporary base goals. After the defeat of Russia in the war with Ukraine, due to betrayal at the top, there will be either a revolution like 1917 and, as a result, Stalin number 2, or the colonization of Russia and the former republics of the USSR, followed by the genocide of Russians, as the most recalcitrant and hated people in the history of mankind. Hated because they wanted peace, love, freedom of religion and the preservation of the memory of their ancestors and their heroes. This greatly hinders the Satanists, who will bring the globalist Antichrist to power.
      1. Zakirov Damir
        Zakirov Damir 14 November 2022 21: 43
        +3
        Quote from Ryzhyv
        After the defeat of Russia in the war with Ukraine, due to betrayal at the top, there will be either a revolution like 1917 and, as a result, Stalin number 2, or the colonization of Russia and the former republics of the USSR, followed by the genocide of Russians, as the most recalcitrant and hated people in the history of mankind.

        Which of these two options suits you?
    10. belovvladimir
      belovvladimir 14 November 2022 23: 05
      +1
      As for the victory, I doubt it, most likely there was an agreement, and the sanctions were partially lifted, or rather weakened, and the result of the withdrawal of troops from Kherson, we, alas, gentlemen, now we really have everything in the gun, otherwise we will be crushed, and in our homes, at our tables they will sit on the sheep wiping their feet on us and our relatives, to become a slave, although not young, does not flatter me!
    11. thepuppeteer
      thepuppeteer 15 November 2022 11: 30
      0
      Yes the truth Is hard to handle
      It's a military miscalculation!
      And does who think China and Iran are your friends is a nother big miscalculation because they only follow there own agenda they need cash and more cash to run there countries
      1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
        Vasilyevich Pensioner 15 November 2022 12: 14
        0
        It's not for you to talk about friends
  2. Comrade I
    Comrade I 14 November 2022 18: 32
    0
    Yes, you wait so, why immediately be offended? Well, Abramovich was not in the spirit, they did not agree. Call tomorrow and make an appointment.
    1. neworange88
      neworange88 14 November 2022 18: 40
      +22
      Quote.
      . The only way to achieve a solution to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict is on the battlefield. Many conflicts are resolved at the negotiating table, but this is not the case, and Ukraine must win, so we will support it for as long as it takes

      - declared Stoltenberg.


      There is NO way to agree here, with all the desire. The West needs Russia's resources and a change of power in the Kremlin. And for Russia, this is the sure end. Therefore, either we are them, or they are us. The trick with Kherson, like hand over Kherson and start negotiations, it's just a trick. No negotiations are possible. If someone has not yet understood this and still harbored some illusions. After today, a bullet should be put under any negotiations. Stoltenberg said everything in principle. And Russia now has two ways. Either win or disappear from the geographical map of the world .That's why they are so eager to transfer the conflict to the territory of Russia. Because the main goal is Russia, for this they pumped up geographically close Ukraine with weapons for so many years. So the situation has been clarified. Here, according to the classics, you are only to blame for the fact that I want to eat. The West needs to live at someone's expense, to parasitize on someone in order to survive. We need colonies. For them, this is also a matter of life and death of the global system. The old colonial system. They do not know how and do not want to live differently.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 14 November 2022 19: 04
        +2
        Quote from: neworange88
        There is NO way to agree here, with all the desire. The West needs Russia's resources and a change of power in the Kremlin. And for Russia, this is the sure end.

        Of course. Germany from the 45th only five years ago paid indemnities and reparations to the victorious countries: the USA, England and France. Many times more will be demanded from Us, and even in a cage, in a muzzle and in shackles. And so we’ll screw up tactical nuclear weapons along the borders of the ukroreich and everyone will be fine
        1. neworange88
          neworange88 14 November 2022 19: 12
          +7
          Here they are even embarrassed to hit on Bankova, where Zelensky is sitting, for some reason they don’t hit on the bridges across the Dnieper, I’m not talking about the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the building of the SBU in Kiev. We deceive ourselves that this is not a war, but an NVO. may end in sad consequences for us. We need to radically change our approach, our attitude to business is not too late. You can’t stupidly merge the country.
          1. Alex Nevs
            Alex Nevs 14 November 2022 19: 24
            0
            Here you are again "according to Bankova ..". Have you heard of VVP? No. Means some guesses about which no one guesses.
      2. Stakan
        Stakan 14 November 2022 19: 07
        0
        Quote from: neworange88
        There is NO way to agree here with all the desire. The West needs Russia's resources and a change of power in the Kremlin.

        They are already frankly saying this and how many Russians they need to serve their interests (20-25 million) And the rest, they did not endure the market economy .. So guys think what they want to do with us again and into whom to turn. Hitler is still in his book , it was all specifically described (the West liked it) ..
        Looks like they again raised this topic of the eternal topic, how to break the Russians and seize resources
        1. Ryzhyv
          Ryzhyv 14 November 2022 20: 51
          -5
          We are being led to the fact that nuclear weapons would go somewhere. And I'm in favor. Here the Poles do not believe that Russia will use nuclear weapons on them. But I don’t believe that NATO will respond to Russia if there is one or two strikes. If the strikes are not against the United States, there will be nothing terrible. For us )). Therefore, only those weapons against which the West has no protection can lead Russia to victory. The rest of Russia's weapons are backward. The technologies of the West and China have gone far ahead. And economically, no country in the world (even the United States) can alone compete with any bloc that is being created just to defeat the enemy. Therefore, the victory of Russia is possible ONLY either with the strike of nuclear weapons, or with the help of an even number (armed forces and economies) of the ALLIES. Russia has no allies (Belarus does not count, a small ally). Remains nuclear weapons. Even in the field. Even in space. Though in the sea near Odessa. The main thing ** to create for the whole world.
      3. topol717
        topol717 14 November 2022 21: 05
        -10
        Quote from: neworange88
        The West needs Russia's resources and a change of power in the Kremlin

        Are you okay in the head???
        The West has shown that it doesn't need GAZ, they said that they can't live without Russian oil yet, but that's for now, and they will try to give it up. If they set a goal, then in a couple of years, only China will buy our oil. What other resources? The same is true about the forest in the same Canada, there is a lot of it, and there it is normally cut down, but also planted. And so you can go through each resource position. So no one needs your resources, it’s the COMMUNICANS who sang it to you, and you are happy to hang out your ears.
        1. Dart
          Dart 14 November 2022 22: 19
          +1
          Whose Crimea, answer? wink crying
          Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment.
          I also see illiterate illiterates with a three-grade education who write texts to a chat bot.
      4. Zakirov Damir
        Zakirov Damir 14 November 2022 22: 03
        0
        Quote from: neworange88
        There is NO way to agree here with all the desire. The West needs Russia's resources and a change of power in the Kremlin.

        It is enough to look at the map of Europe and the map of Russia. This is what a jackpot is at stake - 11 time zones!

        And if the population density of Germany is 300 people / sq. km. compare against the Russian 9 people / sq. km (146 million / 17 million sq. km.) - in general, it demolishes the tower!
      5. belovvladimir
        belovvladimir 14 November 2022 23: 07
        0
        I support 100%, it was predictable, nothing personal from the West, just business! hi
      6. solar
        solar 15 November 2022 00: 25
        -3
        The West needs Russia's resources

        But didn’t they deliver them to the West before?
  3. Fangaro
    Fangaro 14 November 2022 18: 32
    -1
    So it is necessary to sit down with Russia at the negotiating table or not?
    Win or Negotiate?
    Sullivan and Stoltenberg could have played the same tune.
    Or is something not yet resolved?
    1. Asad
      Asad 14 November 2022 18: 39
      +11
      Good cop and bad cop, classic.
      1. neworange88
        neworange88 14 November 2022 18: 48
        +5
        Quote: ASAD
        Good cop and bad cop, classic.


        Razvodilovo, to put it simply.
      2. Ogorodov_Sergey
        Ogorodov_Sergey 14 November 2022 20: 37
        0
        You can also look at it differently. The Western system is based on visibility. Great forces are spent on convincing the people that their voice is significant, that they live in "democracy". In the same way, they like to pretend that NATO has some kind of independence and not everything is determined by the United States.
      3. HattinGokbori88
        HattinGokbori88 14 November 2022 20: 41
        0
        Yes, this could be another scare tactic to make Russia mentally weak and force her to sit in negotiations over their term. Russia should do the same.
        Yes, Russia is somewhat weak now compared to February, because Putin's intelligence troops messed up so badly that even Russia's enemy didn't think it was possible. But NATO is also weakening in front of China, and they want this to end as soon as possible.
        But while Russia is fleeing the battlefield, NATO will not compromise. This is the law of the jungle/world politics.
    2. 4ekist
      4ekist 14 November 2022 19: 12
      +1
      Stoltenberg:-..... The only way to achieve a solution to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict is on the battlefield.

      The main thing is that this gentleman does not later announce a change in format.
    3. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 14 November 2022 20: 21
      -1
      in the alliance stand for the continuation of hostilities and the achievement of victory on the battlefield. This statement was made by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

      Well, gather all the officials from the EU and NATO into one "shock" brigade and go to the front, show how to defeat Russia!
      And then, as always - "the gentlemen are fighting, and the lads are cracking their forelocks"!
  4. Quote Lavrov
    Quote Lavrov 14 November 2022 18: 32
    +20
    What, we ourselves have some other opinion?
    Negotiations, agreements, goodwill gestures, etc.?
    No, until we win a complete and unconditional victory on the battlefield with the surrender of Ukraine, no one in the world will take us into account at all. Even countries from the CSTO with such a CBO can move away from us. It was necessary to think about what methods of relations with Ukraine should have been applied before the start of the NMD, and now you only need to think about how to win on the battlefield. There are no other options for reckoning with our country in the world.
    1. your vsr 66-67
      your vsr 66-67 14 November 2022 18: 48
      +12
      Quote: Quote Lavrov
      What, we ourselves have some other opinion?
      Negotiations, agreements, goodwill gestures, etc.?
      No, until we win a complete and unconditional victory on the battlefield with the surrender of Ukraine, no one in the world will take us into account at all. Even countries from the CSTO with such a CBO can move away from us. It was necessary to think about what methods of relations with Ukraine should have been applied before the start of the NMD, and now you only need to think about how to win on the battlefield. There are no other options for reckoning with our country in the world.

      I agree! But my and your opinion and consent is very, very little! I really don't understand what's going on! Our people, our fighters are being killed, but the authorities cannot (do not want) to use the full power of our army? Or is this power exaggerated, like a soap bubble? Where are our vacuum bombs? Where are the rockets? I don’t understand, because I’m not an expert, isn’t it possible to equip missiles with these same vacuum charges? If it is impossible to deliver them by aircraft. And again questions. Aviation is not allowed, because they have air defense. Then where are our electronic warfare? I just want to say about analogues .... Questions ... Questions ... But there are no answers, and it seems to me that no answers are expected .. We waited for spring, then summer, then autumn ... Now what are we waiting for?
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 14 November 2022 19: 21
        +5
        your sun is 66-67 .....Now what are we waiting for?

        It's winter now, of course.
      2. Ogorodov_Sergey
        Ogorodov_Sergey 14 November 2022 20: 23
        -1
        We are waiting for a change in leadership. Without this, all attempts will be in vain.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 14 November 2022 18: 57
      +11
      Lavrov's quote - the Kremlin is not interested in the opinion of the people, otherwise they would have started to fight hard a long time ago, and Kherson would not have surrendered! For the authorities, any option is acceptable in order to continue to stay in power. The main thing is to promise, even to imitate the fulfillment of the promise, and then let everything take its course!
      1. Tuzik
        Tuzik 14 November 2022 19: 09
        +2
        "Lavrov's quote - the Kremlin is not interested in the opinion of the people, otherwise" they would not have started to fight
    3. ALARI
      ALARI 14 November 2022 20: 03
      -3
      Do we have enough people for unconditional surrender? And who will need this victory - widows, orphans, the disabled? Or those who live in palaces? You already decide the state for the people or the people for the state. If the second, then you can bury everyone just to be considered someone in the world, we have a lot of bureaucrats and some will remain. Only a generation left that had grief in every family, and here you are, we have not collected a blood tax from you in this century. Dolzhok sad
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 14 November 2022 18: 34
    +1
    the time for peace talks has not yet come
    No, of course it's too early.
    1. aglet
      aglet 14 November 2022 19: 28
      +3
      "No, of course, early."
      no, it's time already - "Press Secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov confirmed that on November 14, American-Russian negotiations took place in Ankara" the topic is supposedly not Ukraine, but it's hard to believe
      1. gsev
        gsev 14 November 2022 20: 55
        -3
        Quote: aglet
        American-Russian negotiations took place" the topic is allegedly not Ukraine, but it is hard to believe

        The United States seems to be determined to achieve Russia's fulfillment of all their demands with the continuation of the war and the complete defeat of Russia in the war. Surely, negotiations are being held to prevent the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine until it is saturated with air defense systems and aviation. Apparently, deliveries of nuclear weapons to this country also began, if the United States announced the delivery of nuclear reactors to Ukraine.
        1. Nickelium
          Nickelium 15 November 2022 00: 27
          -2
          Gus, didn't they give you medicine or did they turn on the wrong channel? Chesslovo fire very strongly.
      2. your vsr 66-67
        your vsr 66-67 15 November 2022 11: 57
        0
        Quote: aglet
        "No, of course, early."
        no, it's time already - "Press Secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov confirmed that on November 14, American-Russian negotiations took place in Ankara" the topic is supposedly not Ukraine, but it's hard to believe

        All these negotiations give rise to what was in the 30s of the last century! One to one! And it seems to me that the Reich 2 is being born. They are also pumped up with weapons, a demoniac is also in power, and even a drug addict, almost a Fuhrer!
        Who agrees with me? Or disagree? Is history repeating itself?
  6. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 14 November 2022 18: 35
    +12
    Logical. You already know what you need to do. Remove the cowardly and indecisive and leave ahead those people who are capable of continuing the war resolutely and without concessions.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 14 November 2022 19: 04
      +4
      At the same time, return to the EU nuclear waste, which they exported to Russia for free!!!
      1. Pankrat25
        Pankrat25 15 November 2022 13: 16
        +2
        Why would they return waste from them produced MOX fuel.
  7. Eva Star
    Eva Star 14 November 2022 18: 36
    -1
    It's time to move the nuclear repository to the border of Stolenberg's homeland. This will be an excellent warning and shield from NATO, the Scandinavian countries will think ten times before using their territory against Russia.
  8. Edas
    Edas 14 November 2022 18: 37
    +13
    What kind of negotiations if the APU is on fire now.?
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 14 November 2022 18: 38
    +2
    Well, finally, NATO has decided, on the battlefield so on the battlefield. And then these "negotiations" from the very beginning did not "set" for us. Negotiations are the lot of the strong in this world. For the weak, capitulation, we live among wolves.
    1. alexandre II
      alexandre II 14 November 2022 19: 16
      +6
      NATO has long been determined, but the chief in the Kremlin is chewing all the snot, he cannot decide, he sees little money for him abroad, a traitor ... When a traitor, a thief and an anti-Soviet is at the head of the country, there can be no talk of any victories. Get ready for further shame and defeat.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 14 November 2022 19: 21
        -3
        He could have "betrayed" Russia in 2000, but this did not happen. So your alarmist statement to anyone, but not for me.
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 15 November 2022 14: 10
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Negotiation is the destiny of the strong in this world.

      stop Negotiations - communication between the parties (negotiators) to achieve their goals, in which each party has an equal opportunity to control the situation...
      The fate of the strong - ultimatum.
      The fate of the weak surrender.
  10. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 14 November 2022 18: 40
    +2
    Destroy the Ukrainian energy system. Put the army in a favorable defensive position until those who are recruited are able to fight with guarantees and carry out some kind of propaganda operation to raise morale through concrete actions and media resonance.
  11. Dartanian
    Dartanian 14 November 2022 18: 52
    +9
    Maybe for the better, it would be for the better if it came to the top of the guarantors and front balabols that you were all written off in any case, either you would win or the fate of Gaddafi and Hussein. Maybe they would stir
  12. Quinto
    Quinto 14 November 2022 19: 00
    0
    It is interesting that there, at the negotiations in Turkey, our valiant resolvers again agree on another gesture of goodwill or report to the “respected partner” for the past angry
    1. vb158
      vb158 14 November 2022 21: 38
      -1
      je to hold pokus jak přijít k penězům na zapadě a majetku který jim byl ukraden
  13. yuriy55
    yuriy55 14 November 2022 19: 02
    +2
    NATO does not believe that Ukraine needs to sit down at the negotiating table with Russia, the alliance advocates the continuation of hostilities and achieving victory on the battlefield.

    We were led to the need to give a damn about all the prescriptions and decide whether Ukraine is so important for Russia, so that there is something left there that could destroy Russia with the help of NATO ...
    And it's time to put NATO itself in the framework ...
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    1. Eva Star
      Eva Star 14 November 2022 19: 20
      -2
      It is possible to test an atomic-powered space rocket engine, but instead of a ship, test a tactical nuclear warhead. After just saying that the tests failed. Such trials will make enemies flinch.
  15. bravo77
    bravo77 14 November 2022 19: 09
    0
    It looks like someone was scammed with a grain deal and the surrender of Kherson.
    And no surprise.
  16. VLAD-96
    VLAD-96 14 November 2022 19: 15
    +6
    Quote: Stakan
    Will the Anglo-Saxons crush Russia?

    What’s the point of crushing it, it’s being handed over gradually (we pretend that we are resisting) And then they are handing over whole areas! The last time the duck was practically without resistance ... And the prisoners are given away, and then they go to fight again .. That's all an abomination! All power is the fifth column!
  17. Chernorechye
    Chernorechye 14 November 2022 19: 16
    +6
    In the modern world, only the strong and rich are respected. And those who are afraid to take a step without looking back at the "world community" which has almost openly declared war on us are no longer perceived as a serious rival and wipe their dirty feet on him. The constant concessions and exchanges of fascist geeks are perplexing for almost everyone. The President said we haven't started yet. All of Russia has already been waiting for this "they didn't start".
  18. pexotinec
    pexotinec 14 November 2022 19: 19
    -1
    They are afraid that the ukrovoyna will move to the territory of the euro
    1. ada
      ada 14 November 2022 21: 47
      +1
      I have no doubt, especially those who prepared all the disgrace.
  19. GeneralShahimatovich
    GeneralShahimatovich 14 November 2022 19: 27
    +8
    We are frankly losing the war because of the movements in the Kremlin. What is the point of making concessions to them?
  20. polynet
    polynet 14 November 2022 20: 06
    -7
    Quote: crossbow
    It is not yet evening, it was not for nothing that it was stated that Russia had not yet begun to fight.

    here, by the way, it is very difficult to make comments that sympathize with the cissists - they downvote with terrible force.

    Nazi "media partisans", as they call themselves, are preparing a new information attack on social networks and instant messengers, against the backdrop of the withdrawal of Russian troops to the left bank of the Dnieper. The purpose of the attack, as always, is prosaic - to sow panic and provoke another wave of dissatisfaction with the Russian military-political leadership. No one canceled plans for a "revolution".

    In the photo below, the task for the CISO and examples of comments with clear instructions that the curators prepared for their underage "information fighters".


    "Assignments - Battle for Kherson

    Channel: #VK, #OK #FB, #TG

    Continuation of the task in the comments.

    1. Is Russia here forever? Putin crap himself beautifully, promised, people believed, and now he doesn’t know how to get out. A strange military operation. There are no words ... We advance so well on paper that we surrender Russian cities without a fight. And on TV we valiantly attack every day!

    2. What were you waiting for? For so many people to die? Who will answer for this? It was necessary to steal less! Strengthen the army, introduce technologies, so that now it would not be a shame! The mobilized fighters don’t even have normal uniforms, I’m generally silent about everything else ...

    3. Are we going to retreat to Moscow? What are they hoping for? That Kyiv itself will fall apart? Let's go, what's next? They took this territory to themselves - now protect it. Or you shouldn't have taken it. And then we appropriated it and retreat? And where is the logic of such actions?

    4. Was it promising to start all this SVO? Was it not a pity for the life of soldiers, infrastructure, economy? There was at least some kind of authority in the army and they pissed him off ...

    5. 30 years of theft and fraud were not in vain! And in all areas! Everything was clear even without the performance of these clowns. If we are withdrawing troops out of concern for people's lives, then why was it necessary to start hostilities at all? We believed in the lie that everything was under control - and in the end everything was fucked up. Shame and nothing more.

    Keywords for searching for publications and news that you will comment on: kherson, battle for kherson, news of russia, ukraine, war, russia war, north military ukraine, nato army, russian army, russia events, ukraine events. Due to the numerous wishes of the audience, we are returning. Ready-made groups for the publication of messages. When completing a task, be sure to send us a report in the form of a screenshot and the number of sabotage performed.".

    And what's next, you ask? A very good question and a very important one. Further, it is likely that we will have another Bucha, political persecution and repression, because the former Ukraine is a democratic (read Nazi) state, isn't it?! We hope that everyone left and there will be no one to pursue them.

    Our task is not to succumb to these heinous provocations, to remain calm and believe in our Heroes. What can be an agreement against the background of daily strikes on Kyiv, Nikolaev, regions and so on. They were today.
    1. Ogorodov_Sergey
      Ogorodov_Sergey 14 November 2022 20: 28
      +8
      The Kremlin has played to the point that Tsipso does not need to lie. Take the naked truth and spread it. Infrastructure strikes were supposed to take place in February. And the sluggish window dressing in the month of November no longer frightens anyone.
  21. Ogorodov_Sergey
    Ogorodov_Sergey 14 November 2022 20: 20
    +2
    Jens, how is it? Are the gestures of goodwill, the surrender of the North, Kharkiv region, Kherson, the people of Azov, the grain deal, the Zaporizhzhya NPP, the inviolability of the Ukrainian elite worth nothing? Our red lines are very concerned, Jens.
  22. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 14 November 2022 20: 29
    -2
    Ukraine must win, so we will support it for as long as it takes

    No one doubted this, which means they put an end to Ukraine. Surprisingly, it turned out to be an obedient flock of sheep. This is the first and last war of Ukraine.
    Regardless of the outcome of the war, such a state will no longer exist.
  23. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 14 November 2022 20: 34
    +3
    If the Kremlin continues to drain Russian land for goodies for the business elite and does not continue until the victorious SVO, then Ukraine will definitely win without even fighting.
  24. Vic Vic
    Vic Vic 14 November 2022 20: 58
    +1
    I wonder if any of the journalists asked this Stoltenberg a question, in connection with his words - is this gentleman himself ready to die on the battlefield, especially when this battlefield becomes all-encompassing
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    1. Ogorodov_Sergey
      Ogorodov_Sergey 15 November 2022 01: 11
      -1
      "this shows hatred for russia and russia made the mistake of playing democrat but took ukraine and then severely punished, now russia is a laughing stock and it will have a problem to keep the country of russia together"
  26. brave
    brave 14 November 2022 22: 14
    -2
    How zadolbali these alarmists in the comments, Russia has already lost the war, everything is gone, and so on. A year ago, all these territories were Ukrainian and this did not bother anyone, but now you see, the front has been broken through to Moscow, the enemy is moving. Are you all sitting without electricity, heat and water, you have nothing to eat and your children were killed at the front? You read the history of wars, wars are made up of battles, some of which were lost and sometimes with heavy losses. What kind of people went, it's disgusting to watch
    1. Ogorodov_Sergey
      Ogorodov_Sergey 15 November 2022 01: 06
      +2
      It's not about geography. The Dnieper flows, no matter how much you cross it. But people can't be brought back. Many thousands of our soldiers died in vain, because of the stupidity and betrayal of the leadership.
  27. Altmann
    Altmann 14 November 2022 22: 51
    +1
    Does Stolberg have military training? If so, then he will have to admit that Russia must win, and Russia will win.
    Stolberg right here:
    The only way to achieve a solution to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict is on the battlefield
    Glory to the Russian army! am
  28. iouris
    iouris 15 November 2022 00: 09
    +2
    I want to see the actions of Stoltenberg on the battlefield.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 15 November 2022 02: 27
      +1

      iouris (iouris)
      Today, 00: 09
      0
      I want to see the actions of Stoltenberg on the battlefield.
      Such as this talking helmet, they fight only by peeking out from behind the back of the merikatos.
  29. Alexey G
    Alexey G 15 November 2022 00: 09
    -2
    Come on Stolteberg come on! Tear your navel! More money Ruin more come on! Soon your native Sweden will be bent and you along with it! The more you give to the Ruin, the deeper your grave of Stolpies will be! laughing
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 15 November 2022 02: 28
      0
      Soon your native Sweden will die
      Norway in general laughing And now she's just crazy about gas prices yes and is not going to bend.
      1. Alexey G
        Alexey G 15 November 2022 23: 29
        0
        Is there a lot of it still in Norway and there is this gas ???
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 15 November 2022 23: 51
          0
          Enough. In terms of "snout" wassat - so generally many times more than in the Russian Federation.
          1. Alexey G
            Alexey G 16 November 2022 01: 08
            0
            Are there proofs that Norway can supply gas to Europe in the future?
            “We meet Germany's gas needs by a third, but our pipelines are already running at full capacity. We do not have reserves with which we could make up the deficit,” said Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Stere.
            laughing
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 16 November 2022 01: 27
              -1
              They will stretch the pipe and that's it. And what, all hope for the freezing of the EU? In Europe, the climate is much milder than in Russia.
              1. Alexey G
                Alexey G 16 November 2022 02: 32
                0
                To stretch, you need to work and invest first, and winter has already begun! In addition, production needs energy now and not tomorrow.
                and finally
                The problem is that European reserves are spread over the map of Europe in a very thin and extremely fragmented layer. After the depletion of the North Sea, there are practically no large gas fields left in Europe.

                In 2014, oil prices collapsed, revealing a number of serious moments previously hidden behind beautiful forecast charts. First, it turned out that the main exploited Norwegian deposits were already largely depleted. There are no fresh figures for the current year anywhere, but it is possible to draw conclusions about their possible value - based on data on changes in reserves in the main production areas from the date of their development and until 2003.
                District "Ecofisk". At the start of production in 1971, its explored reserves amounted to 669 million cubic meters of oil equivalent (BC). By the end of the 2003-th reserves, there was already a total of 216 million cubic meters. mn Over 30 years of operation, 67,7% of the resource is generated.
                District "Statfjord". Start of production - 1979 year. Explored reserves - 647 million cubic meters. m. e .. In 2003-m there are already only 51 million cubic meters. mn Over the 24 of the year, 92,1% of the resource is generated.
                District "Gullfaks". Start of production - 1986 year. Explored reserves - 361 million cubic meters. mn In 2003, only 43 million cubic meters remained. mn Over 17 years 88% of the resource has been developed.
                District "Oseberg". Start of production - 1988 year. Explored reserves - 438 million cubic meters. mn In 2003, stock has already reached only 125 million cubic meters. mn Over 15 years 73,1% of the resource has been developed.
                In 1995, Norway began developing the largest deposit found on the Norwegian shelf, the Troll region. Its proven reserves amounted to 1612 million cubic meters. mn In 2003 there are only 1355 million cubic meters left. mn On the one hand, there are still many. But on the other ... in just 8 years, 15,9% has already been deflated.
  30. aszzz888
    aszzz888 15 November 2022 02: 26
    0
    As the NATO Secretary General noted, the alliance does not want Russia to dictate its terms at the negotiating table, so the outcome of the conflict will be decided on the battlefield.
    Talking nonsense NATO / Merikatosia is again talking his own.
  31. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 15 November 2022 04: 06
    -1
    "Peacemaker...."!!! On the battlefield in Brussels, and even better in Fashington !!!
  32. Brain_
    Brain_ 15 November 2022 04: 43
    0
    Until Ukraine begins to suffer defeat after defeat, it will not be possible to negotiate any even slightly favorable conditions for negotiations.

    And I hope that the political leaders are fully aware of this.
  33. Glock-17
    Glock-17 15 November 2022 05: 25
    0
    Borrell also said that the outcome of the conflict would be decided on the battlefield. Stotenberg is trying to explain this to the leadership of the Russian Federation once again. And they still don't get it. They try to appease the enemy with concessions and gestures of goodwill. The policy of appeasement has never led to good.
  34. Marson35
    Marson35 15 November 2022 06: 54
    +1
    Everything goes in my opinion, to some kind of shame for Russia. Too often, all this Caudle, around our multi-way, whines about negotiations ..
  35. Illanatol
    Illanatol 15 November 2022 08: 44
    0
    Quote: SaLaR
    a flock of rams led by a lion will always win a battle against a flock of lions led by a ram, where the ram sits and the lion, everyone can decide for himself


    It seems that this phrase is attributed to Napoleon?
    In any case, he liked to pronounce it.
    Well, well.
    It seems that Napoleon himself, as it were, is almost a lion and did not command sheep at all.
    But he climbed into the lair of the Russian bear and raked the most "do not indulge."
    And we still do not have a ram sitting, but from the other side - the lion is not noticeable.
    Just a cockatoo on a perch...
  36. Vasilyevich Pensioner
    Vasilyevich Pensioner 15 November 2022 09: 49
    +1
    Stoltenberg: The outcome of the conflict with Russia must be decided on the battlefield
    So what's the problem? Welcome to the front line, we will organize a warm welcome.
  37. vb158
    vb158 15 November 2022 09: 51
    0
    co dodat snad jen použit jadernou bumbu bude lepší pro mír než 20 let války
    1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
      Vasilyevich Pensioner 15 November 2022 10: 09
      0
      možná bys neměl byt bláhový???????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????
  38. art having
    art having 15 November 2022 11: 25
    0
    Passed Kherson, now sign! Those who choose shame instead of war will receive both war and shame!
  39. Tzar
    Tzar 15 November 2022 13: 26
    0
    In order to bring them to their senses, it's time to knock their charges on the head with a club. Preferably vigorous.
  40. Sinner
    Sinner 15 November 2022 13: 28
    0
    How brave he has become. Well, he has plenty of reasons to be brave. The Ukrainians have not yet ended, the Russian Federation is draping, money is pouring in. But it is not certain that this will always be the case.
  41. Mascot
    Mascot 16 November 2022 08: 15
    0
    Every 100 years Europe unites against the Russians in order to
    to get love from them and calm down for another 100 years.

    Gathering with strength
    Once in a hundred years Europe.
    To us in Rus' is,
    Yes, with the war, en masse.

    They believe in miracles
    Everything is numb
    Dreaming and hoping
    Rus' that will fall apart

    British and French
    Poles, Germans, Swedes,
    Biting like gnats
    They wanted victory.

    But they only robbed
    Every time to the fullest.
    And forgot again
    To ever remember.

    Russian lazy
    And maybe they believe.
    Power all cramped,
    They rarely get sober.

    And live wrong
    Somewhat plebeian.
    Need to teach them
    Live European.

    Rus' is in a hurry to learn ...
    We will cool them down.
    The thought about them asks:
    -Where will we bury?
    (C)