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Vladimir Putin instructed to carry out the demobilization of students called up for service in the republics of Donbass

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Vladimir Putin instructed to carry out the demobilization of students called up for service in the republics of Donbass

The students of educational institutions of the DPR and LPR, called up for military service as part of the mobilization, will be demobilized in the near future and will return to their studies. The corresponding order was given by Vladimir Putin.


As part of the mobilization that took place in the Donbass republics this spring, students of educational institutions were also called up for military service. This was before the entry of the republics into Russia, but now the president has given instructions to demobilize students and organize their return to their places of study. As Putin's press secretary Dmitry Peskov explained, the units of the people's militia of the republics are integrated into the Russian Armed Forces, where, as you know, students are not called up.

Putin instructed to demobilize students and organize their return to the place of study

Peskov told reporters.

Acting head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, previously advocated the demobilization of students, saying that their conscription for military service this spring was forced.

I am in favor of our students returning from the front, returning to their studies, as is now happening in other regions of the Russian Federation, where students are not mobilized, but study

- he said.

In the State Duma, commenting on Putin's decision, they proposed not to be limited to the demobilization of students, but also to release university teachers from service. According to the Vice-Speaker of the State Duma from the Liberal Democratic Party Boris Chernyshov, it is necessary to demobilize university teachers, candidates and doctors of sciences mobilized in the republics of Donbass.

I consider it right to propose the demobilization of university teachers, candidates and doctors of sciences from the LPR and DPR

Chernyshov said.
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    1. Clear
      Clear 13 November 2022 18: 07
      -17
      According to the Vice-Speaker of the State Duma from the Liberal Democratic Party Boris Chernyshov, it is necessary to demobilize university teachers, candidates and doctors of sciences mobilized in the republics of Donbass.

      This is logical, but it is necessary with the proviso that if the teacher quits, then Merci to the draft board.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 13 November 2022 22: 31
        +2
        Teacher? What other teacher? Are you a bot? Or are you just commenting without reading?
        And no, it never makes sense. If you are talking about a university teacher, then this is usually at least a candidate of sciences and it is not logical to go to the front under almost any circumstances.
        1. Clear
          Clear 14 November 2022 19: 33
          +1
          Quote: alexmach
          Are you a bot
          And you? Why so unrestrained?
          I meant that for the period of mobilization, a degreed candidate (not of sciences) is registered as a teacher at a university, and at the end of mobilization he leaves. What is not clear here?
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 14 November 2022 21: 25
            -2
            What is incomprehensible here?

            And how does this relate to the topic of the article?
            degree candidate (non-science)

            What is this phrase all about?
            1. Clear
              Clear 15 November 2022 18: 52
              +3
              Quote: alexmach
              What is incomprehensible here?

              And how does this relate to the topic of the article?
              degree candidate (non-science)

              What is this phrase all about?

              Do you always answer questions with a question?
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 15 November 2022 19: 29
                -1
                Do you always answer questions with a question?

                Quote: Clear
                And you?
                1. Clear
                  Clear 15 November 2022 19: 46
                  +4
                  Quote: alexmach
                  Do you always answer questions with a question?

                  Quote: Clear
                  And you?

                  Well, Sasha, I would go to the market with you.
      2. Master 2030
        Master 2030 14 November 2022 10: 39
        0
        My comment was removed for being "rude". That's why I'll rephrase.
        How many are left? Will the "noble man who does not climb out from the front line" Pushilin answer?
    2. Veter5757
      Veter5757 13 November 2022 21: 12
      +4
      I don’t know how many were left, but not a few students of the Donetsk National University died near Kharkov in the first weeks of the NWO.
  2. Nexcom
    Nexcom 13 November 2022 17: 59
    -6
    Now they are demobilizing, and then they will again declare a shortage of drugs.
    1. Adrey
      Adrey 13 November 2022 18: 03
      -12
      Quote: Nexcom
      Now they are demobilizing, and then they will again declare a shortage of drugs.

      It will be different here. Whoever does not want to leave the front line will remain there in a different capacity. Those who demobilize will not be found hi
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 13 November 2022 18: 16
        +1
        hi and killed everyone... laughing

        do Svidomo chtol come from the minuses better or shoot more accurately ?? laughing
        Or maybe they puff less? lol
        1. Adrey
          Adrey 13 November 2022 18: 18
          -7
          Quote: Nexcom
          and killed everyone...

          I wrote below laughing hi
        2. Bingo
          Bingo 13 November 2022 19: 12
          0
          Quote: Nexcom
          Svidomo chtol from the minuses comes better

          It’s not the first day of the holiday on their site))) They sometimes give light now - that’s with might and main and come off. time to repeat 10.10.22
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 13 November 2022 19: 14
            -2
            I would not just repeat it, but also strengthen it: when was it that they felt sorry for the enemy shells with missiles?

            PS I agree with you about the light - they seem to give it for a short time, here the Svidomites come off for everyone. wassat Type to have time until the electricity was turned off.
            1. Fisherman
              Fisherman 13 November 2022 20: 11
              -2
              there is nowhere to strengthen it, the energy system of Ukraine is hanging by a thread and is supported by the latest transformers and switchgear, it is no more, it is no longer being produced and will not be in the next year. So give it a little push and it will all fall apart. But the dill must be turned off at the X hour - the hour of the Great Offensive of our Army, so as not to be sprayed, but to plunge the remains of the ruin into darkness and chaos, along with their Armed Forces, supply systems, control, etc.
              1. Bingo
                Bingo 13 November 2022 20: 39
                -4
                Quote: Fisherman
                But dill needs to be cut down at hour X

                Yes, you are right, otherwise they will have time to make tom-toms with wampums and will transmit messages with smoke.
                - Petro, what's with the smoke over the Rada?
                - Tse again the wheel of genoty will be wrapped up to zrada
          2. 4ekist
            4ekist 13 November 2022 19: 37
            +1
            The decision to demobilize students is competent and fair.
            Bingo
            To see the light now sometimes they give - that's with might and main and come off. time to repeat

            Not only to repeat, but to smash to the ground, there are still plenty of goals.
    2. YOUR
      YOUR 14 November 2022 03: 33
      +1
      Do not forget that when they were called students, the DNR / LNR were independent republics and the call of students is not the best option, forced. Now these republics are part of the Russian Federation and live according to the laws of the Russian Federation. Students are not called up here and they are not sent to the war zone.
  3. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 13 November 2022 18: 00
    +7
    A question without sarcasm, is there any place left for students to study in Donetsk, the Armed Forces of Ukraine unceremoniously endured educational institutions, or will students be transferred to the depths of Russia?
    1. Adrey
      Adrey 13 November 2022 18: 04
      -2
      Quote: Murmur 55
      But is there any place left for students to study in Donetsk, the Armed Forces of Ukraine unceremoniously took out educational institutions, or will students be transferred to the depths of Russia?

      Self-transfer. And where, it will be seen hi
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 13 November 2022 18: 59
        0
        There, in Tuapse, in the Yuzhny boarding house, yoga lovers are turned in the ass for the winter, they will settle refugees from Novaya Kakhovka .. And then what? People need to build housing, and students ... It seems to me that for the most part they will go along the military path ...
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 14 November 2022 03: 38
          0
          Quote: dmi.pris
          Look, here in Tuapse in the boarding house "Yuzhny" yoga lovers are turned upside down for the winter, they will settle refugees from Novaya Kakhovka .. And then what?

          This is bullshit. Solve problems. Other bad

          https://ok.ru/video/4057703451264

          And so it is in many regions. Attitude as to "partisans" who arrived for retraining. We personally saw them walking along the highway, dressed in any way, they would take them to the training ground in the morning, they hang out there, it’s not clear what they are doing, but on TV the reports are simply wonderful and the shots also show exceptional ones.
          1. 28st region
            28st region 14 November 2022 03: 57
            -1
            Hello namesake.
            Saw it. In the morning, they stomp in a crowd on their own to the DVOKU training ground; in the afternoon, in a crowd, they go to the barracks. About a dozen kilometers to the barracks and everything is on foot. When they manage to do it is not clear. But when they show it on local TV, they are dressed to the brim with AK12s, BMP-3s, T-80s.
            I would like to believe that it is. And what they saw was an unfortunate misunderstanding.
    2. neworange88
      neworange88 13 November 2022 18: 05
      +2
      Quote: Murmur 55
      A question without sarcasm, is there any place left for students to study in Donetsk, the Armed Forces of Ukraine unceremoniously endured educational institutions, or will students be transferred to the depths of Russia?


      If you think about transfers somewhere deep into Russia, then over time there will be no depth and breadth in Russia. Nobody will transport anyone anywhere. Without people, the earth is just a territory.
    3. Real Pilot
      Real Pilot 13 November 2022 18: 19
      +4
      The interesting point is that the situation is multifaceted.
      On the one hand, students should not fight, but should study - and this is right, the regions of Russia are being equalized in rights.
      On the other hand, after unpopular and difficult decisions, it is necessary to support a nervous public opinion. This is the right move.

      There are places in Russian universities for everyone. Especially in technical universities in regions where there was a shortage.

      We have problems with working specialties, for example.
      That is, with welders, turners, millers, operators of production machines ... Demobilized students from the army, even when changing universities, will be able to join the ranks of engineers. Or go to military school. And after all, they will be happy for the most part with any proposal to leave the front line!
      And we still have enough lawyers, economists, historians and philologists. We need people with a craft in their hands.

      These students who went through the war are not major boys. They have matured.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 13 November 2022 18: 32
        +2
        Yes, the devil bald, these demobilized students will go to military schools, yeah, right now ...
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 13 November 2022 22: 15
          +1
          Quote: Nexcom
          Yes, the devil bald, these demobilized students will go to military schools, yeah, right now ...

          Definitely. No matter how the cadets of the schools are transferred to civilian universities, the preferential military mortgage is only needed by the living ...
      2. Adrey
        Adrey 13 November 2022 18: 33
        +6
        Quote: RealPilot
        The interesting point is that the situation is multifaceted.

        Quote: RealPilot
        These students who went through the war are not major boys. They have matured.

        You are absolutely right! How much these "boys" had to endure on the "front end" will not at all determine their "biological" age. And decisions about their future fate, they will make not at all "childish". And each to their own... hi
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 13 November 2022 18: 36
          +7
          Yes, their youth definitely blew out after serving THERE.
          1. Adrey
            Adrey 13 November 2022 18: 43
            +2
            Quote: Nexcom
            Yes, their youth definitely blew out after serving THERE.

            Depends what you mean by that. request I have no doubt that they have become realists with a sober view of LIFE (not by age) hi
            1. Nexcom
              Nexcom 13 November 2022 18: 51
              -1
              This is exactly what he meant.
              Wait, on the SPAS channel they show - the reburial of civilians from courtyards and other places - kapets how many civilians were killed by the Svidomites. They dig trenches with a tractor ... Many unbaptized recruits accept the Orthodox faith and baptism before going to the front lines ... hi
              1. Adrey
                Adrey 13 November 2022 18: 56
                +2
                Let's still leave the FAITH of the church and proceed from the essence of the mortal hi
                I don’t want about inflatable temples, military priests and cassocks, and, well, about a hyper-temple in "patriots".
                They say yes, there are no unbelievers under the bullets. But let's leave it to the people who really go under them. If they need it, they'll find a way out. All together, or each for himself ... hi
                1. Nexcom
                  Nexcom 13 November 2022 19: 04
                  0
                  Is it really bad that a recruit accepts FAITH - well, at least he will believe in God's protection ... I understand that this will not save you from a bullet, but nevertheless ....
                  Just said that they just showed. hi
                  1. Adrey
                    Adrey 13 November 2022 19: 10
                    0
                    Quote: Nexcom
                    Is it really bad that a recruit accepts FAITH - well, at least he will believe in God's protection ... I understand that this will not save you from a bullet, but nevertheless ....
                    Just said that they just showed.

                    Quote: Adrey
                    Let everyone choose their own path and follow it ...

                    The main thing is not to be ashamed at the end for the steps taken (if you have a conscience and self-respect, of course) ... hi
      3. mitroha
        mitroha 13 November 2022 19: 16
        +2
        Quote: RealPilot
        We have problems with working specialties, .. That is, with welders, turners, millers, operators of production machines ..

        Which are not taught in technical universities. This is secondary education.
        Especially in technical universities in regions where there was a shortage.

        Haven't heard of this in 15 years.
        1. Skobaristan
          Skobaristan 13 November 2022 19: 31
          +1
          There is definitely a shortage. In that year, my son entered. So I know from experience
          1. mitroha
            mitroha 13 November 2022 20: 45
            0
            Quote: Skobaristan
            There is definitely a shortage. In that year, my son entered. So I know from experience

            At technical universities? Weird. In that academic year, we had up to 15-20 people / m. (at some faculties) on average 10 people / m., this year they expect even more (SVO)
            1. Skobaristan
              Skobaristan 13 November 2022 22: 48
              0
              Yes, there was a shortage. A friend of his son entered the local, now he is a university, faculty of mekhmash.
  4. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 13 November 2022 18: 03
    +1
    And if the teacher or student wants to fight? To expel him by force, the decision is more than correct (I'm talking about demobilization) the war will end and education is needed in any case.
    1. Clear
      Clear 13 November 2022 18: 05
      -6
      Quote: Murmur 55
      And if the teacher or student wants to fight? To expel him by force, the decision is more than correct (I'm talking about demobilization) the war will end and education is needed in any case.

      Volunteers are unlikely to be affected.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 13 November 2022 18: 20
        +1
        I have a friend who volunteered, he was a little over 40. They promised to take him as a signalman, just like in the VUS.
        But the fig, in fact, was taken into the infantry. Recently called back while still alive.
        But grit is hard. Svidomity or artillery with rockets hit, or a rod almost without regard for losses.
        1. Clear
          Clear 13 November 2022 18: 33
          +1
          Quote: Nexcom
          I have a friend who volunteered, he was a little over 40. They promised to take him as a signalman, just like in the VUS.
          But the fig, in fact, was taken into the infantry. Recently called back while still alive.
          But grit is hard. Svidomity or artillery with rockets hit, or a rod almost without regard for losses.

          God forbid the guys come back alive.
    2. Chronos
      Chronos 13 November 2022 18: 32
      0
      Quote: Murmur 55
      And if the teacher or student wants to fight? To expel him by force, the decision is more than correct (I'm talking about demobilization) the war will end and education is needed in any case.

      It is logical that such people are demobilized, and then re-enlisted for military service as volunteers.
    3. solar
      solar 13 November 2022 20: 58
      +1
      the demobilization of teachers is out of the question. They stay at the front
  5. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 13 November 2022 18: 06
    0
    But I’m wondering, but someone generally considered how many personnel we need and for what purposes.
    Once the accountants had already gone astray before the start of the operation, where are the guarantees that they are not mistaken this time?
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 13 November 2022 18: 30
      -8
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      But I’m wondering, but someone generally considered how many personnel we need and for what purposes.


      there are standards and rules for the formation of military formations and units, and if they are not followed, then the formed formations will become cannon fodder formations like the Armed Forces of Ukraine (with light small arms and without commanders).
      Before the start of the NWO, with the number of people involved in the NWO, no one was fooled, because this number would be enough to wage a war on Russia with two hands, and even now we are waging it with a maximum of one hand. bridge.
      1. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 13 November 2022 18: 37
        +3
        Quote: lopvlad
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        But I’m wondering, but someone generally considered how many personnel we need and for what purposes.


        there are standards and rules for the formation of military formations and units, and if they are not followed, then the formed formations will become cannon fodder formations like the Armed Forces of Ukraine (with light small arms and without commanders).
        Before the start of the NWO, with the number of people involved in the NWO, no one was fooled, because this number would be enough to wage a war on Russia with two hands, and even now we are waging it with a maximum of one hand. bridge.

        Nomativs are taken not from the air, but from information about the enemy with whom you have to fight.
        I am not saying, but very many that the assessment was wrong and that it became clear by the end of spring. So they screwed up.
        But if you do not like this word, I can replace it with - you made a mistake.
        It's not hard to deny it.
        1. lopvlad
          lopvlad 13 November 2022 18: 59
          -1
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          Nomativs are taken not from the air, but from information about the enemy with whom you have to fight.


          Well, this is provided that the enemy formations are formed according to the rules, and if such a formation, as often happens in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, consists of one infantry with light weapons without cover, then such a formation will be successfully defeated by several times smaller enemy formations equipped with both light and heavy weapons under cover artillery, and especially aviation.
          1. Ulan.1812
            Ulan.1812 13 November 2022 19: 16
            0
            Quote: lopvlad
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            Nomativs are taken not from the air, but from information about the enemy with whom you have to fight.


            Well, this is provided that the enemy formations are formed according to the rules, and if such a formation, as often happens in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, consists of one infantry with light weapons without cover, then such a formation will be successfully defeated by several times smaller enemy formations equipped with both light and heavy weapons under cover artillery, and especially aviation.

            That is, according to the statements of Sullivan, Blinkin, Milley, that the United States has been pumping weapons into Ukraine since 2004, has passed the attention of our intelligence?
            And from what then did the Armed Forces of Ukraine beat the Donbass for eight years, if they had only light weapons.
            Many said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine by 2022 will be completely different than in 2014. They did not waste time and prepared hard. What we faced. That's why it wasn't an easy win.
            And the conclusion is simple - take into account all the mistakes and mistakes, correct, gather strength and means and win, and not try to gloss over the mistakes and cover up those who made them. The military prosecutor's office must work.
      2. Kronos
        Kronos 13 November 2022 18: 54
        +4
        No, it wasn't enough. It is impossible to attack on a wide front with much less force than the enemy, only if you drive the Islamists through the deserts.
    2. Chronos
      Chronos 13 November 2022 18: 35
      +2
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      But I’m wondering, but someone generally considered how many personnel we need and for what purposes.
      Once the accountants had already gone astray before the start of the operation, where are the guarantees that they are not mistaken this time?

      Do you think that entire divisions are formed from these students?
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 13 November 2022 18: 53
        +2
        IMHO, probably half a company - a company will be typed. On the strength of two, if with teachers.
      2. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 13 November 2022 19: 01
        0
        Quote: Chronos
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        But I’m wondering, but someone generally considered how many personnel we need and for what purposes.
        Once the accountants had already gone astray before the start of the operation, where are the guarantees that they are not mistaken this time?

        Do you think that entire divisions are formed from these students?

        No, I'm not talking about students, but in general about the required number based on the existing tasks.
        There are no questions about students, if the DPR and LPR are Russian republics, then the laws of Russia apply to them.
        Including and with regard to the mobilization of students.
        So from this point of view, the decree is certainly legitimate and logical.
  6. Laundryman
    Laundryman 13 November 2022 18: 06
    -1
    How many of those students are left? For two groups of technical school?
    1. poquello
      poquello 13 November 2022 18: 12
      -4
      Quote from Lavander
      How many of those students are left? For two groups of technical school?

      do you have any numbers?
      1. mitroha
        mitroha 13 November 2022 19: 53
        -3
        Quote: poquello

        do you have any numbers?

        Gentlemen are trusted © laughing
  7. nellyjuri
    nellyjuri 13 November 2022 18: 09
    -14
    In fact, this is a signal to everyone and everything. A signal that the number of armed forces of the Russian Defense Ministry in Ukraine is sufficient at least to deter the offensive of the junta. This is a signal of confidence of the country's leadership. And he will make scratching pumpkins on the shoulders of the leaders of the junta and their sponsors.
    1. Adrey
      Adrey 13 November 2022 18: 14
      +9
      Quote from nellyjuri
      In fact, this is a signal to everyone and everything. A signal that the number of armed forces of the Russian Defense Ministry in Ukraine is sufficient at least to deter the offensive of the junta. This is a signal of confidence of the country's leadership. And he will make scratching pumpkins on the shoulders of the leaders of the junta and their sponsors.

      Hurray comrades!!! wassat
      Guards ahead! Forward minusers of objective reality laughing
      1. Al manah
        Al manah 13 November 2022 18: 23
        0

        Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment.
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      3. lopvlad
        lopvlad 14 November 2022 18: 35
        0
        Quote: Adrey
        Forward minusers of objective reality


        and what is this most objective reality in your opinion?
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 13 November 2022 18: 21
      -1
      From the cart. In the area of ​​​​Kremennaya, the junta is recklessly driven. Heavy fighting is going on. Probably, that number of mobilized people is enough to contain it. But nothing more
      1. Mikhail Sidorov
        Mikhail Sidorov 13 November 2022 18: 33
        +4
        In the area of ​​​​Kremennaya, the junta are reckless. Heavy fighting is going on. Probably, that number of mobilized people is enough to contain it. But nothing more

        Yes, it seems like about 80 thousand only arrived from 300 thousand. The point is not in quantity, this is obvious, but in how and with what to fight.
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 13 November 2022 18: 41
          0
          That’s right, they can’t go to the front with their bare hands. In general, I think that these 300 kilo bayonets are not from our need, but from our ability.
          1. Mikhail Sidorov
            Mikhail Sidorov 13 November 2022 18: 47
            -3
            At the same time, we simply won’t pull anymore ..

            And the point is to pull more. You did not understand me. You need to strictly talk with "partners". It is necessary to stop the supply of weapons from NATO. The problem is that we are at war with the entire West, this can last for a very long time. Time is not on our side. Snot should finish chewing on our power. The point is not even in the infrastructure of the 404th, but in the termination of supplies on a "voluntary basis" by the West. You need to make them do it.
            1. dmi.pris
              dmi.pris 13 November 2022 18: 50
              +1
              Strictly talk with partners???!! belay Come on. ".. and Vaska listens and eats ..." grandfather Krylov .... They only giggle in response ...
            2. Kronos
              Kronos 13 November 2022 18: 57
              +2
              You can’t force them to do it, they have long understood that the red line of Russia is a bluff.
              1. Mikhail Sidorov
                Mikhail Sidorov 13 November 2022 19: 20
                -2
                You can’t force them to do it, they have long understood that the red line of Russia is a bluff.

                In March, I wrote more. It's not too late to brandish the nuclear club.
            3. skeptick2
              skeptick2 13 November 2022 19: 16
              +2
              Quote: Mikhail Sidorov
              You need to make them do it.

              Seriously?
              And you have the recipe compel them to do it? So far, we cannot force Ukraine alone to "denazify" (we have to put this term in quotation marks, because, in fact, it has already fallen out of use).
          2. lopvlad
            lopvlad 14 November 2022 18: 41
            0
            Quote: dmi.pris
            At the same time, we simply won’t pull anymore ..


            if this were the case, they would simply be told that mobilization would take place in two stages
            where the first stage is from September 21 and the second, for example, from mid-January of the next year.
      2. Chronos
        Chronos 13 November 2022 18: 34
        +1
        Quote: dmi.pris
        From the cart. In the area of ​​​​Kremennaya, the junta is recklessly driven. Heavy fighting is going on. Probably, that number of mobilized people is enough to contain it. But nothing more

        Can you specify the source?
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 13 November 2022 18: 37
          +2
          Open the VO cart, I read a couple of hours ago, today's message
          1. Chronos
            Chronos 13 November 2022 18: 58
            +1
            Quote: dmi.pris
            Open the VO cart, I read a couple of hours ago, today's message

            Got it, read it. This is a reprint of a message from the war correspondent at 20 AP Elder Edda at around 15.20:XNUMX pm. Then he explains that the fighting has been going on for three weeks, and the settlements are mentioned only to indicate the place of the fighting, in fact they are fighting in the forest belts. I think you understand that fighters during the hardest battles do not poke their fingers into the smartphone, typing a message to the military commander. That is, any information comes with a delay. At this moment, nothing is known about the successes of dill. It should also be noted that with a more or less organized defense (not like in Balakliya), even if there are jambs, the enemy cannot break through the front.
      3. Kronos
        Kronos 13 November 2022 18: 55
        0
        Yes, they broke through there to Mikeevka and stabilized their front.
      4. vitvit123
        vitvit123 13 November 2022 19: 29
        +2
        It is not clear how this is sufficient for deterrence? Only Kherson was given away! There is still Zaporozhye in the queue ... normally we are holding it back ...
    3. lopvlad
      lopvlad 13 November 2022 18: 40
      0
      Quote from nellyjuri
      A signal that the number of armed forces of the Russian Defense Ministry in Ukraine is sufficient at least to deter the offensive of the junta.


      Well, let's start with the fact that if this number were sufficient, namely, all the mobilized were trained, combat coordination, military units were formed from them and these units were equipped with weapons + sent to Ukraine, then Kherson would not have to be left.
      This means that there is no trace of this. And what is there?. There is the fact that the active Russian units are reinforced by a certain number (less than 100 thousand) of the most combat-ready mobilized (former contractors, volunteers and mobilized with database experience).
      1. nellyjuri
        nellyjuri 13 November 2022 22: 48
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        Have you ever unloaded wagons with shells? What do you think, how many shells are there, for example, for the D-30 howitzer, for the Rapier? For the howitzer - 440. For the Rapier 900. For the Grad 320. The numbers are not exact. I can be wrong by a few percent - 30 years have passed since the service. The consumption of shells per day reaches 5-10 thousand according to experts. How to deliver through the Dnieper? Under fire from the Hummers? You know? Me not. And there are self-propelled guns, Hurricanes and Tornadoes. There are ATGMs and RPGs. There is fuel and ammo, grenades and food. That is, for a day, you need to deliver almost the composition to the other side. How? By ferry? Do you want to send everything to the bottom?

        In general, I suspect that our command was given to destroy all the ammunition, primarily artillery, and go to the other side. Inflict maximum damage and leave.
  8. bandabas
    bandabas 13 November 2022 18: 23
    +1
    Everything is according to the proverb - "The law is like a drawbar: where you turn, it went there."
  9. Sadok
    Sadok 13 November 2022 18: 23
    -9
    did the bathhouse burn down from the buoy? who will defend the homeland? Am I, almost legless, their khokhlostan with a sunken chest to close?
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 13 November 2022 18: 29
      -1
      Wait, all especially graduates and students with teachers will be demobilized and mustache - they will start rowing from 50 to 60 years old.
      Like this, I don’t care everything.
      1. Adrey
        Adrey 13 November 2022 18: 39
        -2
        Quote: Nexcom
        Wait, all especially graduates and students with teachers will be demobilized and mustache - they will start rowing from 50 to 60 years old.
        Like this, I don’t care everything.

        Well, no need to exaggerate. There are others of other ages with or without diplomas.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 13 November 2022 18: 44
          -2
          Well, it's good if there is still a reserve, so to speak
  10. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 13 November 2022 18: 31
    -11
    For what reason? The blood of a student is more valuable than the blood of a worker? Do they have blue blood? Eggs!!! send everyone to the front.
    1. Adrey
      Adrey 13 November 2022 18: 41
      +4
      Quote from Carlos Sala
      For what reason? The blood of a student is more valuable than the blood of a worker? Do they have blue blood? Eggs!!! send everyone to the front.

      In general, everyone? And why are the women sitting at the stove? There they are! SO WIN!!! wassat
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 13 November 2022 18: 56
        -2
        Polish gentlemen go with pleasure to kill ours - I recently read that there are many of them among the Polish mercenaries. Looks like the men they have completely different issues are preoccupied ....
    2. Pharmacist
      Pharmacist 13 November 2022 18: 54
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      I'll try to guess. They want to return students not because of blue blood, of course, and not because of a desire to save smart heads and a promising future for the country. Rather, there is a desire to reduce social tension: 1) if they return, then things at the front are not going so badly; 2) happy girlfriends and mothers hug their often henpecked sons, and no longer reproach the authorities for daring to send their child to fight. Another important point, please do not throw rags at me. Modern society is clearly divided into two conditional groups: who lived in the USSR, and who did not live at that time. Of the second, and these are the current students, most of the patriots are so-so, they consider themselves "children of the world", they are the "computer generation", which for the most part did not hold anything heavier than a laptop, and are not able to iron their trousers, nor, more, open a trench. But they are connected in virtual communities, lend themselves well to brainwashing by "Western values" and do not want to fight against Western like-minded people. In total, it is easier to remove them from the front home (except for volunteers, there are exceptions, of course), out of sight, and send more patriotic veterans to the front, even if they are not full of health.
      Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, this is exaggerated for perception.
      1. Adrey
        Adrey 13 November 2022 19: 07
        +1
        Sorry for the question, is that you to me? I just don't see the personality request. If you answer, let's continue the discussion. hi
        1. Pharmacist
          Pharmacist 13 November 2022 19: 24
          0
          Yes, this is a post from Andrey. It's just other messages popping in. hi
          1. Adrey
            Adrey 13 November 2022 19: 27
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            Quote from Pharmacist
            Yes, this is a post from Andrey. It's just other messages popping in.

            Thank you hi
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 13 November 2022 19: 43
        -4
        Quote from Pharmacist
        Modern society is clearly divided into two conditional groups: who lived in the USSR, and who did not live at that time. Of the second, and these are the current students, most of the patriots are so-so, they consider themselves "children of the world", they are the "computer generation", which for the most part did not hold anything heavier than a laptop, and are not able to iron their trousers, nor, more, open a trench.

        What nonsense, the Union has not been around for 40 years, according to you, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are based on mediocrity and all hope is for old people who were born in the last year of the existence of the Union, they should at least be now 40 (born in the last year of the USSR) or 58 years old ( became persons of military age in the last year of the USSR) ...
        Apparently only full mobilization will save this site from d...s....
        1. Pharmacist
          Pharmacist 13 November 2022 20: 42
          +2
          Not 40, but 31. Well, no one cares. And to scold the participants with foul language is useless, especially for a woman. Moreover, which certainly will not be in the trenches near Donetsk, even with the most complete mobilization.
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      3. Glock-17
        Glock-17 14 November 2022 03: 52
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        He himself was a student during the first Chechen war and had a reprieve. Grachev, in my opinion, asked us to deprive us of the delay and believed that it would be more sense with us. Friends who returned from there said that they would put us "bespectacled" for nothing. Keep learning, that was their advice.
    3. Nephilim
      Nephilim 13 November 2022 19: 06
      +1
      For what reason? The blood of a student is more valuable than the blood of a worker? Do they have blue blood? Eggs!!! send everyone to the front.

  11. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 13 November 2022 18: 44
    -12
    As part of the mobilization that took place in the republics of Donbass in the spring of this year, students of educational institutions were also called up for military service. This was before the entry of the republics into Russia, but now the President ordered the demobilization of students and organize their return to their places of study.

    Those. only DPR / LPR students will be demobilized, students from other regions of the Russian Federation are not so valuable ...?
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        2. Havoc
          Havoc 13 November 2022 21: 29
          +2
          Quote: Lara Croft
          Quote: Adrey
          Lara, they're not there. Only if volunteers.

          Well, yes, just like there is no ambulance paramedic mobilized as an ordinary motorized rifleman ....
          Stop with campaigns....

          An ambulance paramedic is a military man who can call at any time, even in peacetime.
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 13 November 2022 21: 49
        -5
        Quote: Adrey
        Lara, they're not there.

        Give me a tooth...
        How familiar are you with the situation?

        I am guided by Article 10 of the Federal Law "On mobilization training and mobilization in the Russian Federation" of February 26.02.1997, 31 N XNUMX-FZ
        https://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_13454/
        and Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of September 21.09.2022, 647 N XNUMX "On the announcement of partial mobilization in the Russian Federation"
        https://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_426999/
        There is not a word there that students are not subject to mobilization ... laughing
        and fat you will not see a good age of will ...
        1. Adrey
          Adrey 13 November 2022 21: 58
          +2
          Quote: Lara Croft
          Give me a tooth...

          wassat who are you that I would talk to you in terms of concepts? laughing
          Quote: Lara Croft
          I am guided by Article 10 of the Federal Law "On mobilization training and mobilization in the Russian Federation" of February 26.02.1997, 31 N XNUMX-FZ
          https://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_13454/
          and Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of September 21.09.2022, 647 N XNUMX "On the announcement of partial mobilization in the Russian Federation"
          https://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_426999/
          There is not a word there that students are not subject to mobilization ...

          You can sculpt this Mui Ne wherever you want, but in my city there are a dozen universities, and I know how and what.
          Quote: Lara Croft
          and fat you will not see a good age of will ...

          without you somehow I'll figure it out bait
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 13 November 2022 18: 53
      +1
      By the way. Did they call up students from other regions? I have two sons in universities, in Krasnodar and Ulyanovsk. In any case, no one was called up at their institutes
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 13 November 2022 18: 59
        +3
        Well, there was one volunteer from UrFU. I left at the beginning of September and, unfortunately, I have already returned in zinc ....
        We wrote in the local media. And so we mostly take from the region.
        I know about this from the sad news - we write when they are brought back ....
  12. Adrey
    Adrey 13 November 2022 19: 08
    +1
    Quote: dmi.pris
    There, in Tuapse, in the Yuzhny boarding house, yoga lovers are turned in the ass for the winter, they will settle refugees from Novaya Kakhovka .. And then what? People need to build housing, and students ... It seems to me that for the most part they will go along the military path ...

    Let everyone choose their own path and follow it ...
  13. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 13 November 2022 19: 55
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    Vladimir Putin instructed to carry out the demobilization of students called up for service in the republics of Donbass
    hi good
  14. Tagan
    Tagan 13 November 2022 20: 06
    +1
    Quote: Mitroha

    Especially in technical universities in regions where there was a shortage.

    Haven't heard of this in 15 years.

    Yes, competitions in technical universities be healthy! There were indeed shortfalls in some specialties, but not even due to lack of demand, but due to the fact that the admission system is now like a lottery. But this is a purely psychological moment, when the applicants (as well as the parents) lost their nerves and started to twitch when changing the consent to enrollment. A little earlier, in my opinion, there was a "second wave" to equalize such collisions. Now it's somehow different.
  15. bdfy_bdfy
    bdfy_bdfy 13 November 2022 20: 06
    -7
    in general, my opinion should be called on everyone and student deferment, this is a very muddy topic, fake students are easily bought, but if this law is valid throughout the Russian Federation in the LDNR, it should be valid until it is canceled throughout Russia.
  16. ximkim
    ximkim 13 November 2022 20: 10
    0
    Political ploy. Putin is doing the opposite.
  17. Ratibor_A
    Ratibor_A 13 November 2022 20: 14
    +3
    Quote: RealPilot
    The interesting point is that the situation is multifaceted.
    On the one hand, students should not fight, but should study - and this is right, the regions of Russia are being equalized in rights.
    On the other hand, after unpopular and difficult decisions, it is necessary to support a nervous public opinion. This is the right move.

    There are places in Russian universities for everyone. Especially in technical universities in regions where there was a shortage.

    We have problems with working specialties, for example.
    That is, with welders, turners, millers, operators of production machines ... Demobilized students from the army, even when changing universities, will be able to join the ranks of engineers. Or go to military school. And after all, they will be happy for the most part with any proposal to leave the front line!
    And we still have enough lawyers, economists, historians and philologists. We need people with a craft in their hands.

    These students who went through the war are not major boys. They have matured.

    They made me laugh .... In universities, they don’t teach turners ... And here they are in general. Then you need to demobilize everyone who wants to go to vocational schools. And then we have graduated from universities, like uncut dogs, every second saleswoman with a higher education (and this is not a joke)
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  19. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 13 November 2022 22: 05
    -4
    The article ruins all my plans for the future...
  20. Alexey G
    Alexey G 13 November 2022 23: 14
    +1
    That's right, some were mobilized, others were demobilized! And in the end, what was, is what will be! Students who have been at the front for a long time are no longer students! Many of them have received military experience and are fighting better than those who have recently been mobilized! Perhaps some of them will not go back to study, and universities are unlikely to work normally everywhere there.
    From a legal point of view, the decision seems to be correct and our president is a good lawyer, but from a practical point of view, there are questions.
    Conscripts go home after service, students to study, and 50 year olds to retrain and go to the front ...
    Well, how ambiguous!
    1. Egor-dis
      Egor-dis 13 November 2022 23: 45
      0
      Quote: Alexey G
      and 50 year olds for retraining and to the front ...

      Only old people will go into battle. laughing
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 14 November 2022 14: 07
      0
      Quote: Alexey G
      50 year olds for retraining and for the front ...
      Well, how ambiguous!

      In order to save PFR funds, very unambiguously, before the GDP said that our men, on average, live up to 67 years, i.e. they will have time to live two years in retirement without working, and now this period has been reduced to 50 ....
      At the age of 50, a rare employer needs a man, and even more so the PFR ... so only for slaughter, i.e. to the front...
      1. Alexey G
        Alexey G 14 November 2022 18: 26
        0
        Such savings go sideways, while the old people are re-learning to fight and run in armor, we are renting Kherson ... fellow
  21. Egor-dis
    Egor-dis 13 November 2022 23: 42
    0
    There students and so once or twice and miscalculated. In general, they will simply be forced to re-sign the contract, calling them "volunteers."
  22. Tagan
    Tagan 14 November 2022 16: 50
    0
    Quote from: bdfy_bdfy
    in general, my opinion should be called on everyone and student deferment, this is a very muddy topic, fake students are easily bought, but if this law is valid throughout the Russian Federation in the LDNR, it should be valid until it is canceled throughout Russia.

    Did you buy fake student body? And in general, what is it? A fake diploma is still all right.)) You write it with such confidence. No, of course you can buy a generalissimo's certificate in the underpass, no one argues.
    It is not difficult to check whether the "students" are fake or not.
    There are results of the Unified State Examination, there is data on the passing scores of each specialty, positions for enrollment with reference to the TIN.
    Why take revenge on a blizzard?))
  23. KVIRTU
    KVIRTU 14 November 2022 17: 35
    0
    This is a military, not a review, why do you go