What is wrong with the official version of the death of Kirill Stremousov

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What is wrong with the official version of the death of Kirill Stremousov
Kirill Stremousov was buried on November 11 in Simferopol. Source: primechaniya.ru


The last day of Kirill Stremousov


In his last interview, Kirill Stremousov quite clearly and very emotionally expressed himself about the surrender of Kherson:

“I am primarily interested in the civilian population. Interested in the residents of Kherson, whom I personally promised that Russia will forever be in Kherson. Believe me, I have a moral right to declare this... Moral and ethical right... To the point that I am ready to resign my powers and not be - you know how? - in this general system, a person who is not responsible for his words. But on the other hand, if we talk about this situation, which can happen when our troops, for example, can leave Kherson, there is still a very large number of our fellow citizens in the city. Who received Russian passports, who believed us. And you know, at some stage it will be a blow not just to the back, but one more blow to people who will simply be abandoned. We declare that the Russians do not abandon their own.”

What is clear from this interview? First of all, that Kirill Stremousov was ready to the last to resist the withdrawal of the Russian army from Kherson. The words about the resignation of the deputy head of the regional administration are significant. If this happened, then Stremousov would have every reason to speak more openly about the situation. Simply put, he would not have been pressed by the burden of responsibility of an official position in the Kherson administration. A couple of rhetorical questions in this regard. How deeply was Stremousov involved in the details of the operation to withdraw their Kherson? How would he comment on the concessions that suddenly fell on Russia: the London Stock Exchange refused to ban the circulation of Russian steel, India was actually allowed to buy our oil at a price above the established ceiling, and Europe unblocked the transit of 20 tons of Russian fertilizers to Africa? Let us leave these questions to the investigation, if, of course, it is announced.


The funeral of Kirill Stremousov. Source: kherson-news.ru

Now about the situation around the accident. Here, probably, the largest number of white spots. It’s worth starting with the fact that the details of any resonant tragedy, one way or another, become public. The information society has taught us this. Let's go back a couple of months back to September 20, when the Russian patriot and talented artist Sergei Puskepalis tragically died. At his own expense, he bought an armored cash-in-transit Ford Transit for the militias, equipped it with humanitarian aid, and set off along the M8 highway from Yaroslavl to the Donbass. The moment of Sergei's death was caught on camera and was on the air the very next day.

In the situation with the death of Stremousov, there is still not a single video evidence of his movement along the Kherson highway. It is clear that all the cameras on the highway have been removed for a long time, so that the enemy could not intercept the materials with the movement of Russian equipment. Most likely, video recorders were also confiscated from the local population - after all, no one canceled martial law. But no one took the smartphones from local residents, but as a result, we do not see a single photo and video from the accident site. Official materials, together with the final version, appear 6-7 hours after the first news of the death of Stremousov. And this is where the fun begins.

Difficulty understanding the situation


Kirill Stremousov is the second most important official in the Kherson regional administration. In conditions when the region is under martial law, and the enemy is several tens of kilometers away, administration officials of this rank should not just roll along public roads. Simply because on these roads it is easiest to organize an assassination attempt on them. Therefore, we proceed from the version that Kirill Stremousov did not just move in an armored car, but as part of a motorcade. Why is a tuple needed? To accommodate an armed guard of a VIP person. In addition, the terrorists do not have a clear understanding in which particular car the protected person is moving. According to the regulations, such an important official must be guarded by FSO officers who are equipped with special means of communication. However, until the very evening it was not clear where exactly Stremousov got into a fatal accident - near Genichesk, where the Kherson administration moved, or near Nova Kakhovka. It turned out that the accident happened at the intersection of highways M-14, connecting Kherson with Melitopol, and R-47, connecting Novaya Kakhovka and Genichesk.

To justify the official version, in fairness, it is worth saying that such uncertainty could be associated with elementary security. Stremousov died on the left bank of the Dnieper, a few dozen kilometers from the line of contact. This means that the specialists of the Armed Forces of Ukraine could easily determine the place and strike from the very first photographs from the scene of the accident. For example, HIMARS missiles. The death of an official of such a rank would inevitably attract a lot of attention, including employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations and special services, who are always on the list of targets of Ukrainian terrorists. Vladimir Saldo, the first of the officials who confirmed the death of the patriot, also expressed himself very ambiguously:

“Today, Kirill Stremousov died on the territory of the Kherson region.”

But even if the version with forced conspiracy is true, then why don't the authorities openly explain themselves after the fact to the indifferent part of the public?


Location of the accident. Source: youtube.com

On the officially presented frames, a very unusual picture appears. In the middle of the road, near the four-wheel strikers, there is a frame from an SUV, presumably a Lexus LX, and a few meters away is an inverted armored capsule, in which, obviously, Stremousov died. Neither the cars of the cortege (if there was one at all) are visible, nor the culprit of the accident, who was declared to be an unnamed truck.

According to one version, the truck made a dangerous maneuver, as a result of which the official's car was fatally damaged. According to another version, the truck not only made a maneuver, but crashed into a Lexus, and with such force that it tore off the armored vehicles from the frame. If so, where is the truck? Why was it not filmed by reporters who were the first to get to the scene of the tragedy? According to the version voiced by the aif.ru portal:

“The SUV followed the truck and got into an accident at the moment of leaving the junction. The truck made a sudden lane change, which forced the driver of the SUV to maneuver and avoid the collision, causing the SUV to overturn at high speed.”

Armor did not save


The evening footage from the scene shows that the armored Lexus has obvious damage to the front, both on the free-standing frame and on the inverted armored capsule. Therefore, if the coup took place, then as a result of a head-on collision. Which, by the way, is not surprising - a car with several tons of armor has a high center of gravity. Either the Lexus rolled over from an unsuccessful maneuver, and after that it crashed into something massive, which is why the armored capsule was torn off. Frontal impacts in frame armored vehicles are always very dangerous - fastenings to the frame often do not withstand overloads, and the overweight body simply flies off.

Even unarmored versions of frame SUVs do not always cope with blows at harmless speeds - just look at how the body of the UAZ Patriot flies off the mounts when it collides with an obstacle at 60 km / h. Of course, Lexus is not a UAZ, but even in an accident it is not capable of holding a body that has become several times heavier on the frame. By the way, depending on the level of booking, the weight of the Lexus armor can reach more than five tons.

Judging by the footage from the place of death of Stremousov, the frame of the armored car has already been moved from the scene of the accident. After such a terrible accident, the frame cannot stand parallel to the movement at an intact bump stop. The second participant in the accident was either already evacuated or, for some reason, was not shown on camera. In any case, even for a truck, a hit by a five-ton armored car at good speed did not end in anything good - it would not have gotten anywhere on its own. This is the version according to which the culprit of the accident fled the scene of the accident. However, Stremousov's car could have collided not with a truck, but with an army armored vehicle, of which there are plenty on the roads of the Kherson region. After such a blow, a hypothetical MTLB, BMP, or even more so, a tank could well retreat under its own power.




These frames show that the front part of the body and frames are deformed from a frontal impact. Source: youtube.com

Could Stremousov have survived the crash if he had buckled up? It is difficult to predict here, but one thing is clear - the power structure of the armored body remained intact, and the pillows worked. By the way, in an armored car, you should definitely buckle up. The armored capsule protects not only from bullets and shrapnel, but also from a land mine explosion. Unfastened passengers often receive serious injuries from impacts on the inside of the cabin, even airbags do not save, and sometimes exacerbate the consequences. In most of the videos, Kirill Stremousov travels by car unfastened. Whether it was worth it for him to take such risks in the hope of quickly leaving the wrecked armored car, the question is again rhetorical.

Inconsistencies and inconsistencies in the official version of the death of the second person in the administration of the Kherson region will inevitably give rise to alternative versions of what happened. And also to give propaganda slogans into the hands of enemies. An honest and impartial investigation will easily put an end to this.

Kirill Stremousov was buried on November 11 in Simferopol. The patriot of Russia has five children, and the sixth child will be born soon. He was only 45 years old. We express our sincere condolences to the family and friends of Cyril.
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  1. +35
    14 November 2022 06: 06
    Questions will remain open, but when will they be answered?
    1. -1
      14 November 2022 07: 01
      If not for the date, there would be questions. request
      Do you still need answers?
      1. AUL
        +52
        14 November 2022 09: 47
        Quote: Olezhek
        If not for the date, there would be questions. request
        Do you still need answers?

        Masherov... Evdokimov... Stremousov... No man - no problem!
        But there was no accident on Chubais, which is a pity ...
        1. +11
          14 November 2022 16: 17
          Quote from AUL
          Quote: Olezhek
          If not for the date, there would be questions. request
          Do you still need answers?

          Masherov... Evdokimov... Stremousov... No man - no problem!
          But there was no accident on Chubais, which is a pity ...

          Yes, there was Kvachkov, they could not immediately prove it and put him in jail on a far-fetched other case.
          в
        2. +8
          14 November 2022 19: 15
          But there was no accident on Chubais, which is a pity ...

          So Chubais is yours!
        3. +1
          14 November 2022 19: 37
          Evdokimov? you are serious, well, yes, he participated in the robbery of coal deposits (on the side of the ATP, if anything, all sorts of "gozmans" and others), but it was an ordinary car accident, in those years, if opponents or his patrons removed him, who no longer needed him, do not bother on staging, filled up simply and cheaply, like Khodorkovsky, the mayor of Nefteyugansk Petukhov.
          1. +1
            15 November 2022 19: 46
            Quote from: bdfy_bdfy
            Evdokimov? are you serious, well, yes, he participated in the robbery of coal deposits

            [b] [/ b] There is no need to denigrate a person. He tried to restore order in the Altai Territory and covered the feeder for some. Have you ever been at the scene of the accident yourself? There is only one birch in the field that his car hit. I personally talked with guys from the garage of the regional administration and they all say that Evdokimov’s driver was a real assistant. Before Evdokimov, he worked in Kazakhstan, he drove Nazarbayev. So at any speed he could drive around this lonely birch.
            1. +1
              18 November 2022 16: 58
              I wanted to write you a detailed answer, on all counts, I changed my mind, I will only write that you, in your perception, are replacing the concept of the stage image of the actor (does not pull on the artist) and the real personality and biography of this character.
      2. +39
        14 November 2022 11: 41
        A comrade was slapped for his words that one should answer for the bazaar or get out. And we have it everywhere, from the Kremlin to the bathhouse. So he came, like Givi with the others.
    2. -10
      14 November 2022 07: 11
      Do they even need these answers? Without that, the Lexus was clearly flying at high speed, clearly leaving behind all the rules of traffic rules. Draw your own conclusions
      1. -23
        14 November 2022 07: 12
        Do they even need these answers? Without that it's clear


        I agree. Absolutely. hi
      2. +22
        14 November 2022 12: 51
        Quote: YOUR
        Without that, the Lexus was clearly flying at high speed, clearly leaving behind all the rules of traffic rules.

        That's right, and there is no need to attract a "conspiracy theory". The video from the scene of the accident shows that the armored capsule flew sixty meters, demolished the side bumper for thirty meters. At the same time, the Lexus left the roundabout at such a speed, so it’s not worth talking about cutting it with a truck. The truck could, without suspecting anything, rebuild to the right closer to the striker. At this time, a Lexus could fly under the trailer, not expecting such an obstacle. At such a speed, the driver simply could not hold a heavy armored car when leaving the ring traffic. In any case, adjusting an accident at such a speed is too complicated a way to get rid of a person.
        And then the finger sucking begins:
        According to the regulations, such an important official must be guarded by FSO officers who are equipped with special means of communication.

        Why drag the FSO? Under normal conditions, the heads of subjects and their deputies are not included in the list of persons subject to state. protection established by federal law. In accordance with the law, only the president, by his decision, can provide such officials with state. security. But most likely, in the zone of warfare, the protection of the deputy head of the administration was carried out by other power structures.
        In any case, an outstanding man died, our man. Condolences to the family and his associates.
        1. +4
          14 November 2022 20: 56
          Agree with your arguments. I’ll also add - after a “frontal impact” of a car with such a mass and speed, the frame must be deformed. We see an ideal frame. Where did people see the deformation? Conspiracy theorists.
          1. +2
            14 November 2022 23: 57
            Quote: Kezhmar
            I’ll also add - after a “frontal impact” of a car with such a mass and speed, the frame must be deformed. We see an ideal frame.

            Yes, the frame is not damaged. It can be seen that the main blow fell on the upper part of the armored capsule, which is more like diving under a semi-trailer.
            The people are greatly misled by the photograph, in which, apparently, the frame has already been dragged to the opposite side of the road. After that, it is no longer possible to understand who moved where. Here in the article both photos of the frame are already after moving. I understood something for myself only after watching the video, which shows the final relative position of the parts of the car on the road.
        2. 0
          17 November 2022 07: 01
          FSO give them to everyone.
          In the Second World War, I don’t remember which general, Popel, apparently, drove around in his car without a bunch of guards, since they drove into enemy territory, which, according to the plan, our units should have already been. They look and there are German tanks, the general decided to go around through the neighboring town - and there is German artillery. In general, having made a big detour, they returned to their own and the general entered the headquarters with the words - "And how long have your generals been going to reconnaissance?"
          The article is not about anything.
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      1. -24
        14 November 2022 07: 55
        There are many questions. But the parallels must be looked for deeper.


        Why make it so difficult?
        And why is this blah blah blah about "big money" ??
        Ischo can mention about reptloids?
        1. +37
          14 November 2022 08: 00
          Yes, thanks for reminding me, I forgot to mention the "reptilians" and the Martians from Mars, who have been leading the "reverse" offensive for almost 9 months ...
          1. -8
            14 November 2022 13: 11
            And in which direction are you advancing? A pub, a store ...
          2. -8
            14 November 2022 16: 00
            And I'm wondering, who is this "patriotic" who puts pluses on the defector Monster? Does he almost openly throw feces at Russia in every comment and work against it? Or if "against", then for "us"? Few revolutions? So read Khodakovsky gentlemen "patriots" ..
            And in general, it is probably necessary to write to the FSB regarding the author of this article. I'll think about it. Like adults, many were under uniform for a long time. And they are being led to articles by miserable provocateurs.
        2. +6
          14 November 2022 10: 47
          Quote: Olezhek
          Why make it so difficult?

          Then that all wrong was with the official version from the very beginning. Here on the resource, of course, they tried to immediately drag in the Ukrainian DRG, SBU, etc. in the comments, but there were more common sense.
          And after a while, the questions do not become less. And there are no answers.
        3. +8
          14 November 2022 16: 15
          Quote: Olezhek
          Ischo can mention about reptloids?

          Reptilians is a collective name. Denoting soulless people, with a cold calculation of their own profit. They do not care about the value of human life in a single sense. in the plural, too, do not care. The fate of peoples does not matter. The main thing is profit, money, influence on humanity as a whole. Vipers, cold-blooded reptiles, and therefore reptilians
      2. +6
        14 November 2022 09: 23
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        A strange explosion on the Crimean bridge...

        I thought I was the only one who found the explosion on the bridge strange. 1. Let's assume that the perpetrators of the terrorist attack did not explode at the top point of the bridge, which would be logical, but at the bottom, only because there was a meeting with a train in which there were fuel tanks in this place. (A meeting of a car with a train with fuel - an accident or a planned calculation?) 2. Of course, I am not an explosives engineer and I have no idea about the theory of explosions, but the strange collapse of the bridge spans is puzzling. One span collapsed with its middle into the sea. It can be assumed that it was there, in the middle of the span, that the explosion occurred. Then why did the neighboring span fall off the support with its far end, from the place of the explosion, and not the near one? Maybe my questions are not worth a damn, but still ....
        1. +3
          14 November 2022 09: 32
          Then why did the neighboring span fall off the support with its far end, from the place of the explosion, and not the near one?
          I don’t know how the spans are connected, but if there is such a connection, then the span that collapsed in the middle could pull the adjacent span behind it. For this reason, the far end of the neighboring one was pulled off the support.
          1. +4
            14 November 2022 10: 23
            Quote: Vasilyevich Pensioner
            I don't know how the spans are connected,

            The spans should not be interconnected and the span, for sure, with one of its two supports.
            The temperature gap is the reason.
            1. +3
              14 November 2022 12: 27
              But there is a small detail, the bridge is earthquake resistant. I will assume that this requires dynamic links between spans.
        2. -9
          14 November 2022 12: 35
          Don't rack your brains, it was a missile attack, any normal rocket scientist will tell you.
      3. +6
        14 November 2022 10: 42
        All mixed up in one pile, and the Nord Stream, and blowing up houses and terrorist attacks against commanders. By the way, why odious? Their odiousness is that they fought against the Nazis? It’s a pity you can’t put more than one minus on such a rotten comment.
      4. +10
        14 November 2022 13: 26
        We have all the jambs for one reason - the oak electorate. Until the Russians sweep away United Russia, things will still be there. The root of evil is the children and godfathers of the United Russia deputies, including those over the hill. The government, corrupt officials, local authorities are all tied to the oligarchic business, which grazes all the Russian government and its offspring, who have crawled into the middle-class business. And the president is the tail of a pissed-off dog, which is unable to wag it (the dog).
        1. +1
          14 November 2022 16: 14
          Many will agree with you, including me. Yes, the matter is small: who will demolish it and how? If the upper echelon, then everything will remain the same (at best), or the RF will be irrevocably covered (in the worst case). And if from below ... Most likely, nothing will come of it. To suppress poorly and disunitedly organized protests, the gendarmerie will be enough, which will mercilessly smash them. And for a well-organized general "event" there is neither an authoritative organizing force, nor a universally unifying idea. Is it the army? But she will be ordered to lay down her arms and she will obey. This was already the case in 91 and 93. Yes, and the special services will show the initiative that the authorities need. I don't have an answer to my own question. It is clear that a very troubled time awaits Russia.
          1. +5
            14 November 2022 16: 55
            Duc, so I say - oak electorate. It would not be good to screw up your brains and go together and vote with a paper ballot, well, let's say, for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (I think the most sincere faction, even if they are old people). With paper documents, the decoy CEC does not shine.
          2. +3
            14 November 2022 22: 27
            Quote: Frank Muller
            Yes, the matter is small: who will demolish it and how?

            No, that's not the only question. How and who and whom will they put in place of those who have left? Here is the QUESTION. Such a war of everyone will begin with everyone, plus "partners" will immediately arrive with cookies for the places that did not fall into the division, and shorts for those who fell .. It will not seem to anyone. Because the people at the top, those in the opposition are the same, from the same people. And there is no faith in either one or the other.
    4. +21
      14 November 2022 07: 48
      There will be no answers throughout.
      And after 50 years.
      Abramovich rules.
      They are ruled by London (city). Exchanges.
      Money rules London
      1. 0
        17 November 2022 15: 02
        You are absolutely right. Only about 50 years is a mistake. Everything will end much faster and its too. We don't see good luck.
    5. +4
      14 November 2022 07: 55
      Reminiscent of the death of Masherov, he was too independent of the system.
    6. +1
      14 November 2022 12: 02
      On the Soviet-Finnish war, in my opinion, not everything was declassified. What can we say about the current conflict?
      1. -1
        14 November 2022 15: 39
        What exactly needs to be declassified on the Russian-Finnish war?
    7. aleksejkabanec
      0
      14 November 2022 22: 16
      Quote: parusnik
      Questions will remain open, but when will they be answered?

      Then when there will be answers on the cruiser "Moscow" and other similar incidents. hi
    8. +2
      15 November 2022 02: 46
      Tell me, uncle, not for nothing
      Moscow burned by fire
      The Frenchman is given away?

      Admit it, then Kutuzov took
      A big bribe from the French?

      Not just because he was blind,
      The State Department obviously intervened here.

      The king signed the agreement
      And left a civilian in the city?

      And they burned all of Moscow at once,
      by order of Arakcheev,

      And where was Denis Davydov?
      Probably drank with Bonaparte.

      And the French drone was not shot down,
      when Bagration died.

      Miloradovich was a scoundrel,
      in the battle near Maloyaroslavets.

      Imam Shamil wrote this.
      He knows better from the Caucasian rocks.

      How much were the orders
      For the Battle of Borodino?

      Well don't look askance at me
      For a simple question.
      Forgive me, you, uncle, our tribe,
      We grew up in a time like this...
      And became a victim of bad thoughts,
      That the power of a bribe is dimensionless
  2. +33
    14 November 2022 06: 25
    THE COURTESE WAS DRIVING FROM THE CRIMEA

    Kirill Stremousov could go to the Kherson region from the Crimea. This was reported to KP-Krym by a man named Ivan (name changed, approx. Ed), who on the ill-fated day of November 9 was returning from a new region of Russia. The interlocutor of the publication missed the Chongar checkpoint with Kirill Stremousov's cortege. According to Ivan, the cortege of the deputy head of the Kherson administration was quite recognizable - an armored SUV and several escort vehicles.


    According to the Crimean official news, it was said that there was a cortege of five cars. What happened next is unclear.
    With sanctions, the work of politicians is really disgusting. Ukraine on a silver platter receives a whole Kherson and the vacated "non-virtual" corps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The Russian Federation supplies the raw materials necessary for the "partners". This is absurd.
    It is Russia that should sink all the ships of the Odessa direction until the torture of prisoners of war and repressions against civilians stop!
    Even when the Russian army owned the initiative, conditions were put forward for Russia - this is unnatural.

    ps Who sent a "signal" to whom by this death - here it is even forbidden to think together. There are still a few media figures with similar views, like Stremousov.
  3. +17
    14 November 2022 06: 26
    I'm sorry Kirill. Genuinely saddened to hear of his death. There is even something mystical in coincidences. Ours leave Kherson and the death of Cyril. A real Russian patriot.
    1. +36
      14 November 2022 06: 47
      There is even something mystical in coincidences.
      "Coincidence? I don't think?" (c) Zakharchenko died after he announced that he would carry out nationalization in the Donbass. Another coincidence? True, after a while he stated that he was not understood that way. But ... the verdict had already been passed.
      1. -9
        14 November 2022 06: 54
        Zakharchenko, died after he announced that he would carry out nationalization in the Donbass. Another coincidence?

        And Stremousov, what did he say? hi Maybe I missed?
        I watched poetry, he read it in a telegram, cheered us up. If hohls are involved, then what's the point of hiding? Always report. There, a prosecutor was recently killed in Luhansk, and there are a lot of assassination attempts, everyone reports, everyone says ... request
        To compare with Zakharchenko ... Well, the figures are clearly unequal in scale ...
      2. 0
        14 November 2022 08: 25
        Zakharchenko in his last interviews looked morally tired, as if he was expecting death. But Borodai managed to jump off this express train.
  4. +37
    14 November 2022 06: 54
    As a former traffic police inspector who has been dealing with traffic accidents for many years, I can say one thing, judging by the photographs that I saw, there are signs of slipping and rollover on the body and asphalt, but neither the place of impact nor the scree of fragments from the impact is visible, there is only a trace of braking from truck sparks, in general there are more questions than answers
    1. -32
      14 November 2022 07: 09
      As a former traffic police inspector who has been dealing with traffic accidents for many years, I can say one thing, judging by the photographs that I saw on the back


      Well, you can go to the place and declare that you are going to conduct an "independent investigation".
      Next - typical Hollywood ...
      1. +22
        14 November 2022 07: 54
        Not Hollywood, but the corpse of a former traffic police inspector.
        1. -15
          14 November 2022 08: 08
          Not Hollywood but


          Well, dear - this is a favorite / hackneyed plot of Hollywood / American detective / their own TV movies - a former policeman (honest and experienced, and therefore fired from his job) begins an investigation into a mysterious murder ...

          lol
          1. 0
            14 November 2022 11: 22
            Our scenario is much shorter: a shot from a passing car.
  5. -11
    14 November 2022 06: 54
    What is wrong with the official version of the death of Kirill Stremousov


    ask dangerous questions
  6. +27
    14 November 2022 07: 00
    Ambiguous, all with the death of Stremousov!
    On the one hand, you are inclined to the version that it was removed so as not to blurt out too much. And on the other hand, who knew him before the beginning of summer and that he could know someone to clean him up.
    Well, he would have criticized the authorities and the army, and that, whoever does not criticize it now, Comrade Strelkov criticized the authorities for all 8 months without embarrassment in terms, as a result, they did nothing with them, they even let them into the NWO.
    Could they just calmly scare him so that he wouldn’t talk too much, that he could blurt out too much?
    An accident is possible with a military vehicle, for example, an "armored personnel carrier" that went into the oncoming lane, or vice versa, the Stremous car, and the warriors, realizing who was in the car, decided to retreat so as not to be substituted, well, this is just my guess.
    The main thing is why there were suspicions that he was removed, this is that the story is muddy, the news stopped as if on cue, even in the cart of the military corporals, as if on cue, they fell silent on this topic and all this during the day.
    1. -22
      14 November 2022 07: 06
      Ambiguous, all with the death of Stremousov!


      Even the "daughters of officers" hesitate
      1. +11
        14 November 2022 07: 33
        If you don’t like someone else’s point of view, then you still shouldn’t hang labels.
    2. +9
      14 November 2022 07: 58
      He could not only "blurt out", but also deed to disapprove of the reverse offensive.
      1. +1
        14 November 2022 11: 53
        Quote: lelik613
        He could not only "blurt out", but also deed to disapprove of the reverse offensive.

        Can you be more specific, what could he have done? raise uprising)))
        1. 0
          14 November 2022 19: 02
          Let's say organize a militia for rearguard battles in the city.
          1. +1
            14 November 2022 19: 39
            From which of the local residents or something, it didn’t hurt so much, they wanted to fight there and didn’t rush to protect themselves from ukrov. So it’s unlikely request
    3. +3
      14 November 2022 10: 48
      A head-on collision with an armored personnel carrier is fatal for an armored jeep. But not with a wagon. So under suspicion is an armored personnel carrier, not a truck. For a truck, a collision with an armored jeep is a big nuisance; it would not have left the scene of an accident on its own. There are no fewer questions.
    4. +2
      14 November 2022 19: 22
      leks
      the story is muddy, the news stopped as if on cue

      That's why they are silent, because it's a shame if their own people die because of someone's sloppiness (it seems that all the participants in the accident). Somehow it does not fit with Konashenkov's peppy reports. Although in war such senseless and stupid sacrifices are inevitable. They are called "non-combat losses" ...
  7. +1
    14 November 2022 07: 44
    I think the whole truth about what happened, we will never know ...
  8. +1
    14 November 2022 07: 58
    * How would he comment on the unexpected relaxations that fell on Russia: the London Stock Exchange refused to ban the circulation of Russian steel, India was actually allowed to buy our oil at a price above the established ceiling, and Europe unblocked the transit of 20 thousand tons of Russian fertilizers to Africa? repeat other people's nonsense: it was not about steel, but about non-ferrous metals (copper, aluminum, nickel), but, firstly, Russia has a large share in world trade (5,6,7%, respectively), so they were not against Western sanctions were introduced, secondly, such a ban would lead to price chaos on the LME (as happened in March with nickel), thirdly, the influence of Chinese metal exchanges would increase. As for India, the United States cannot allow or prohibit anything —they have been persuading India for six months not to buy our oil, and India doesn’t care. Another thing is that it buys our oil at a 30% discount, which is already close to the price ceiling, apparently. As for fertilizers, we decided to give them to Africa for free .So no need to nspirology
    1. +5
      14 November 2022 08: 42
      And all this happened after the surrender of Kherson. There are coincidences in life...
      1. +4
        14 November 2022 11: 35
        Why would suddenly? "Recall that in early October, the LME sent a discussion document to market participants on a possible ban on the sale of Russian metal on the stock exchange." - The answer to this document had to be given before October 28., what does Kherson have to do with it? Regarding India, he already explained: "The United States is not opposed to India continuing to buy Russian oil at prices exceeding the ceiling set by the G7, if it does not use the services of Western companies for this. This was stated by US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, Reuters reports."- -that is, the United States prohibits India from using the services of Western companies (they can), but they cannot prohibit India from buying oil through other companies, therefore they "do not mind".
      2. -2
        14 November 2022 19: 03
        Of course it's purely random...
  9. +2
    14 November 2022 08: 02
    I doubt the conspiracy theory.
    Here, most likely, the situation is the same as with Mikhail Evdokimov.
    Someone drove in excess, someone did not see, well, the result is always sad.
  10. +2
    14 November 2022 08: 03
    Or maybe everything is easier? Why can't you see the truck? Whose truck is it? Yes, most likely our dear, with a soldier who happily carries and, knowing the order in such places, believing that everyone should be afraid of him so strong and .... I had to cut my own drivers! there, after all, he is the king, no one will deprive anyone of their rights, and say thank you that he finally came to the war! And what a Lexus for him! That's why silence!
  11. Eug
    +5
    14 November 2022 08: 04
    "... I am ready to lay down my powers and not be - you know how? - in this general system a person who is not responsible for his words ..."
    But this can already be perceived as a hint and a challenge ...
  12. +4
    14 November 2022 08: 04
    India was allowed .... They kicked the Americans away through the forest - well, we "allow" them. Direct indulgences of the century.
  13. +1
    14 November 2022 08: 17
    Kirill Stremousov was killed. Killed them, I think. And I sincerely hope that those from the Kremlin who gave the order to kill him will certainly answer for this.
    1. +3
      14 November 2022 09: 30
      Quote: Alt22
      Kirill Stremousov was killed. Killed them, I think. And I sincerely hope that those from the Kremlin who gave the order to kill him will certainly answer for this.


      No one answered for "Mozgovoy's list". There were also strange deaths of Bolotov and Zhilin. All these deaths are united by two facts: people were non-systemic and this happened "in the zone of responsibility" of Russia.
      1. +2
        14 November 2022 10: 00
        Moreover, it is not even necessary to personally kill yourself - it is enough to leak the location data to "respected partners", and then - here it is, "ukroDRG"!
        By the way, Mozgovoy, Zakharchenko, and Stremousov were all supporters of socialism.
  14. +1
    14 November 2022 08: 36
    How would he comment on the concessions that suddenly fell on Russia: the London Stock Exchange refused to ban the circulation of Russian steel, India was actually allowed to buy our oil at a price above the established ceiling, and Europe unblocked the transit of 20 tons of Russian fertilizers to Africa?

    "- This is a monstrous coincidence! Isn't it clear? No. This is not a duke. This is a rag!
    - Madame, what do you want from him? England surrendered. "(c) xf "The same Munchausen"
  15. +3
    14 November 2022 08: 38
    Or maybe because he spoke about this "not war" as an operation to destroy the Slavs?
    1. 0
      14 November 2022 13: 13
      operations to destroy the Slavs

      unimaginable nonsense, centuries-old slogans about the "Slavic brotherhood" are outdated - the Poles, Czechs and Bulgarians will not let you lie (everything is fine with them and they themselves are happy to participate in the destruction of Russian citizens)
  16. -4
    14 November 2022 08: 40
    Gazimagomadov was also killed ... Principled, uncomfortable people are eliminated one way or another, and the caravan moves on, well, or "Titanic is sailing" @.
  17. +1
    14 November 2022 08: 56
    Inconsistencies and inconsistencies in the official version of the death of the second person in the administration of the Kherson region will inevitably give rise to alternative versions of what happened.
    The author did not stand aside, gave birth to his own version. How not to earn a pretty penny on hot.
  18. +7
    14 November 2022 09: 24
    There will be no answers.
    One can ask oneself: And how many official EDRA functionaries in power died there and nearby? Didn't hear, like 0.
    And how many figures died not from the EDRA, from the Russian Spring and about? - enough.

    The conclusion can be drawn that a gradual clearing is underway .... It indirectly confirms that some of the leaders of the Russian Spring died strangely, some were squeezed out of the rue breeding, and some literally fled from power (I won’t give examples, I ran across biographies separately sometimes) so as not to get under "weirdness"...
  19. TIR
    +3
    14 November 2022 09: 30
    It's just that there are billions of dollars at stake. And he could easily break the deal. The oligarchs do not forgive this. To them, money is more valuable than the Motherland and the lives of people.
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  21. +3
    14 November 2022 09: 33
    A strange war - Jews on both sides are fighting the Slavs with the hands of the Slavs. IMHO, the SVO should have been carried out on the territory of the criminal organized criminal group of the Chabad sect.
  22. -3
    14 November 2022 09: 35
    Whoever is needed is killed.
    What, he is the first, or what? And not the last. The person began to speak or, God forbid, to do something wrong? "You need it or ku, or y." (With)
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  24. +3
    14 November 2022 10: 25
    it's hard to look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if it's not there))).
    1. Stremousov (God rest his soul), like all the leaders of the new regions - talking heads (you need to call a spade a spade), as far as they are not independent, even within their regions, they are so short-lived, on the horizon of the political horizon.
    2. Whatever opinion Stremousov himself personally had, no one even asked him, I will say more, he did not dedicate to the plans of the high military command. No one there is dedicated to such things, about the true goals and objectives, up to a certain point a very small circle of people know and people like Stremousov are not included in this list.
    3. The fact that the Russian Federation will receive (should receive) some preferences after the withdrawal of troops to the Dnieper line is not known only by a primary school student, therefore, the role of Stremousov and other local leaders is absent here.
    4. Give birth to alternative versions of his death as much as you like, he didn’t decide anything alive, and even dead, he couldn’t decide anything. It’s a pity for a person and his family, a terrible combination of circumstances, nothing more.
    1. +4
      14 November 2022 16: 13
      Perhaps the only sane opinion in this thread. Respect and upvote
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    1. +1
      14 November 2022 14: 07
      We are not in the 90s, you say?


      No, not the 90s.
  26. -3
    14 November 2022 10: 48
    Next on the list:
    Prigozhin, Strelkov, Milchakov. Our government does not need patriots.
    1. +2
      14 November 2022 16: 15
      Prigogine for what? He is his own person "in the system." Not a "patriot", but "nothing personal - a businessman." Earned some money, started playing war. And Strelkov, as he was flooded with the DPR, is of no interest to anyone. Nobody pays any attention to him
  27. +4
    14 November 2022 10: 59
    I don't think there will be any answers. For me, it's quite obvious. There are no coincidences.
  28. +3
    14 November 2022 11: 13
    NWO turned into a kind of Chechen war, while people were digesting in the meat grinder of war, someone stuffed their wallet, in principle, all wars are like that
  29. +2
    14 November 2022 12: 10
    In the photo, the body lies on the roof without side windows. If the car is armored, the thickness of the glasses is large enough and they cannot crumble from impact, because. must hold a bullet, where the layers of glass are glued with a film. Something does not look like an armored capsule ...
  30. -2
    14 November 2022 12: 13
    Somehow, unlocking some 300 tons of fertilizers from Europe does not fit with the total export of fertilizers from Russia, this is only 000/1 part. Everything is in the public domain. We have one office, it has bulk carriers of 30 tons, like they are without problems, fertilizers are dragged to the world. Who needs this stuffing, about an agreement.
  31. -4
    14 November 2022 13: 15
    What professionalism .... I suggest that all zealous commentators be included in the composition of the investigating authorities as freelancers and hand over all the unsolved cases to them (especially on the theft of bicycles and vodka in stores). There is an opinion that the detection rate will increase and life will become easier for all of us .. .at the same time something about the assassination of Kennedy and Princess Diana .... also interesting!
  32. -3
    14 November 2022 13: 20
    Quote: Alt22
    Kirill Stremousov was killed. Killed them, I think. And I sincerely hope that those from the Kremlin who gave the order to kill him will certainly answer for this.

    what good luck to such a good luck put pluses ...
  33. +1
    14 November 2022 15: 24
    Bednov, Mozgovoy, Tolstykh, Pavlov... didn't fit either
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  35. PC
    +1
    14 November 2022 16: 46
    Questions, questions, and no answers yet. And Cyril is sincerely sorry!
  36. 0
    14 November 2022 17: 00
    Vladlen Dorofeev
    REVOLUTION DEVOURS ITS HEROES, EVEN IF IT IS COURT....
  37. -1
    14 November 2022 19: 16
    It’s a pity, of course, for a responsible official and an honest person, and his family ...
    But... It's likely an accident. If a person was not very responsible for his safety, then it could well have been a "banal" accident with a dead unfastened passenger. And if your own military equipment was involved in an accident, then this story needs to be hushed up, because it's a shame ... I think "accidents" with military equipment always happen where there are a lot of them. Including, because of the carelessness of the military.
    Perhaps that is why the Russian media are silent ...
    Please note that both Russian, Ukrainian and Western media are silent, although it would be beneficial for everyone to inflate the story by accusing each other of ordering. Compare with the reaction to the murder of Daria Dugina. There they immediately "found everyone" and "found everything out."
    But, I think, in reality, the deceased (let the earth rest in peace!) did not influence the situation so much. Therefore, the enemy does not see any propaganda reasons here.
    Well, it’s better for “ours” to quickly forget, and hush up some shameful facts.
    We won’t know the whole truth anyway until someone takes the initiative and investigates.
    1. 0
      14 November 2022 21: 28
      Quite logical. Otherwise, the Kiyans would have long been trumpeting about another remosh
  38. -1
    14 November 2022 19: 43
    The devil knows, maybe it’s true an accident, they would like to bang, they would blow it up and write it off to the SBU, not in the first, as they say. In any case, the death of Stremousov is a symbol of the death of the Russian World.
  39. 0
    14 November 2022 20: 21
    Their own and eliminated, it's obvious. Lawlessness, as they like in our country, they took a patriot of a person who was not ready to give up moral principles and killed him so as not to interfere.
  40. +1
    14 November 2022 20: 55
    In a car accident, where the deputy head of the administration of the Kherson region Kirill Stremousov died, two more people became involved.
    Minister of health of the region Vadim Ilmiyev told journalists about this on Wednesday evening.
    According to the minister, three cars were involved in the accident.
    “One person died and two more were injured,” Ilmiev said.
    He added that the injured are receiving the necessary medical assistance.
    Kirill Sergeevich Stremousov died in an accident. Its driver survived.
  41. 0
    14 November 2022 20: 59
    What is wrong with the official version of death

    All wrong. This is a murder, and an exemplary one. What awaits true patriots in case of disagreement with the authorities.
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    1. 0
      16 November 2022 02: 11
      Quote from hexace
      Ukrainian talks about liquidation by special services with the help of an accident involving a truck.

      This happened with Chernovol. His body is still in the refrigerator of the Kyiv court medical .... since 1999. The family constantly demands further examinations... as soon as the previous one confirms the official version. These remains have longed for all the medical forensics of Ukraine /, and they went to the Russian Federation both to the Bundes and to Poland ... but no, the family wants to see themselves as a victim of state special services and they don’t care that such accidents in Ukraine are not an exception but a rule. Well, I wanted to drive the trucks to turn 180 through 4 lanes (in the opening set for this, but without a single sign), but cho, everyone here does it. Well, Toyota Chernovola flew at a speed of 160 - 180 km per hour. where 90 is supposed to be, nonsense.
      They say they beat me on the head with a leg four times, right on the back of the head ... it was a court medical forensic specialist who found these traces in 1915, after another examination in the ear, he whispered to some deputy that they were from brass knuckles .... In 15, this forensic doctor was Konstantin Tkachenko from the city .Chernivtsi, and I was there for a day and turned this skull under a microscope in all directions, and the cracks were painted in order to show that "mesh", and then they were photographed with luminescence, they looked for different metals ... they did a lot of this to understand cause and sequence. I’ll be a grandmother, but I didn’t even think about brass knuckles (taking into account the results of the research) ... from the word at all (although this question was asked by the investigator of the prosecutor’s office). As well as there was no doubt that Chernovol "left" the car through the windshield, with his head in the direction of the side of the kakmaz. .. anyway.
      I will say one thing. No investigation in the world can restore the picture of such accidents with 100% certainty. Well, we are not gods, mistakes in the investigation begin to be made from the first minutes, and then increase progressively due to a causal relationship + new mistakes. It turns out inconsistencies, contradictions ... which can no longer be corrected or logically explained. Human factor.
      And it's all filled with speculation.
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  44. -1
    15 November 2022 18: 21
    A tough guy, he didn’t wear seat belts, he’ll have to raise his children differently.
  45. -2
    16 November 2022 17: 15
    It is clear that he was killed - liquidated.
    And not ukroDRG - but, as I think, their own. More precisely, Putin's. Too many uncomfortable questions he could ask, too much he could tell - that the city, ready for defense, was really well fortified and protected. That there were no critical supply problems, as official propaganda rubs people in, in fact. That the majority were for Russia, and not "waiters". He could and wanted to tell about this - for which he was killed in order to avoid publicity.
  46. 0
    22 November 2022 16: 57
    And the tires on the front and back are different ... There wasn’t enough money ...