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Sweden announced the supply of modern weapons systems to Ukraine

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Sweden announced the supply of modern weapons systems to Ukraine

Sweden plans to be actively involved in the supply of arms to Ukraine, the Swedish government will make a decision on the allocation of military assistance in the near future. In the meantime, in Stockholm they only promise to supply Kyiv with modern weapons.


The Swedish Ministry of Defense announced the supply of weapons to Ukraine, but refused to disclose which weapons is being discussed. In Kyiv itself, they hope that the Swedes will supply the Armed Forces with Archer self-propelled howitzers and RBS 70 man-portable anti-aircraft missile systems, which were repeatedly discussed at the Swedish-Ukrainian negotiations. At the end of the summer, the Swedes agreed to consider the supply of self-propelled guns and air defense systems.

We intend to return as soon as possible with the subsequent support of Ukraine - both political, financial and military, which includes the transfer of more modern weapons systems

Swedish Defense Minister Paul Jonsson said.

Currently, the Swedish government is preparing a new document that will spell out all aspects of military assistance to Ukraine, from the supply of weapons and equipment to the training of the Ukrainian military. Military instructors from Sweden are participating in the training of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the UK, they plan to join the training mission of the European Union and even let part of the Ukrainian military into their territory.

Earlier, Sweden supplied Ukraine with seven packages of military assistance, which included: anti-tank missiles and grenade launchers, demining equipment, machine guns, Robot 17 portable short-range anti-ship missile systems, body armor and field rations, artillery shells and much more.
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  1. nellyjuri
    nellyjuri 13 November 2022 11: 03
    +2
    Let them send the spirit of Charles 12 over Ukraine. Near Poltava.
    1. poquello
      poquello 13 November 2022 11: 19
      -11
      Quote from nellyjuri
      Let them send the spirit of Charles 12 over Ukraine. Near Poltava.

      the bourgeoisie gathered a noble shobljak against us, well, let them crawl, so soon the Swedes, innocently killed in dill, will also go
      1. mitroha
        mitroha 13 November 2022 11: 56
        +9
        Quote: poquello
        Quote from nellyjuri
        Let them send the spirit of Charles 12 over Ukraine. Near Poltava.

        the bourgeoisie gathered a noble shobljak against us, well, let them crawl, so soon the Swedes, innocently killed in dill, will also go

        The Swedes are in such a hurry to wave, they fall out of their shoes
        1. poquello
          poquello 13 November 2022 12: 03
          0
          Quote: Mitroha
          Quote: poquello
          Quote from nellyjuri
          Let them send the spirit of Charles 12 over Ukraine. Near Poltava.

          the bourgeoisie gathered a noble shobljak against us, well, let them crawl, so soon the Swedes, innocently killed in dill, will also go

          The Swedes are in such a hurry to wave, they fall out of their shoes

          I didn’t understand why this topic was, nevertheless, the Americans and the Chinese are now rummaging through their pockets, and the Americans rather don’t even rummage, but impudently rob Europeans under the slogan “stop Russia”, and the Chinese rummage quietly
          1. Abbot
            Abbot 13 November 2022 12: 47
            +5
            Currently, the Swedish government is preparing a new document that will spell out all aspects of military assistance to Ukraine, from the supply of weapons and equipment to the training of the Ukrainian military

            With the world on a thread, a naked shirt. There's nothing to be done, the countries of the West see a profit for themselves in the defeat of Russia, these devils will supply anything to Ukraine. At the moment there is no way to force them not to deliver, we have no leverage. And I don’t particularly observe active actions so that such levers appear. Another thing is how effective this hodgepodge of different systems and weapons is on the battlefield. In order for the Swedish armor to influence the "successes" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the battlefield, it's not even visible yet, so I'll put it neatly. Informationally - yes, it works. And on ukrov, and on us.
            1. guest
              guest 13 November 2022 15: 38
              +2
              Quote: Abbot
              Force not to deliver at the moment there is no way

              There are opportunities, but they categorically do not want to use them.
              Quote: Abbot
              Another thing is how effective this hodgepodge of different systems and weapons is on the battlefield.

              As our last "regroupings" show, it is very effective.
            2. Alex Tarhov
              Alex Tarhov 13 November 2022 22: 52
              0
              We seem to have no weapons and no satellites. Weapons are being transported across the entire outskirts, everyone sees everything and ... they fuck around the cities. theater of the absurd
          2. mitroha
            mitroha 13 November 2022 13: 31
            +2
            Quote: poquello
            I don't understand what this thread is about

            Moreover, in many Western countries, either inadequate or paid puppets are at the helm, and anyone wins, but not the population of those countries that are just rummaging through their pockets. Sweden is also affected, and the population will be affected
            1. poquello
              poquello 13 November 2022 13: 39
              -4
              Quote: Mitroha
              Quote: poquello
              I don't understand what this thread is about

              Moreover, in many Western countries, either inadequate or paid puppets are at the helm, and anyone wins, but not the population of those countries. Sweden is also affected, and the population will be affected

              these things are generally obvious, of course it will affect
            2. Alex Tarhov
              Alex Tarhov 13 November 2022 22: 54
              -3
              Why do you care? And it doesn't matter that there are mobilized and there is a huge retreat? About which our people told the whole world
              1. mitroha
                mitroha 14 November 2022 07: 51
                +2
                Piggy, for such work, with your stupid stuffing, you need to take money from you, and not pay. Level up, funny...
      2. Evil 55
        Evil 55 13 November 2022 12: 45
        +5
        Until Russia realizes its significant place in the world order, they will gnaw at it and try to trample all sorts of small-power mongrels into shit .. hi
        1. Bro
          Bro 13 November 2022 14: 49
          +1
          It’s not enough to realize, we still need to work on it inside the country, everyone should unite for victory
        2. AG-76
          AG-76 14 November 2022 19: 33
          0
          To have a significant place in the world order, one must have results and strength in order to gain a foothold in this place. In the meantime, there are no forces, no results, only attempts and puffing out of the cheeks for "significance". That is why all the mongrels and jackals gnaw and trample into the shit, because they are no longer afraid. When Russian troops were near Kyiv, threatening encirclement and blockade, the mutts were still afraid...
  2. SKVichyakow
    SKVichyakow 13 November 2022 11: 05
    +29
    And these cattle supply weapons, knowing that nothing will happen to them for this. Impunity breeds permissiveness.
    1. SARMAT123
      SARMAT123 13 November 2022 11: 16
      +20
      I'm also shocked to be honest. They are already delivering open. And ours are still mumbling about partnership. Supply hydrocarbons
      1. gromit
        gromit 13 November 2022 12: 17
        +7
        Until recently, the Russians were fined for the word "war".
        Why should the Swedes not supply weapons to the Ukrainians?
        Is there a UN decision?
        Or a declaration of war by the Russian Federation?

        They invest in their military-industrial complex, create jobs. In the future, they also count on economic preferences. All the same, Ukraine is a major supplier of raw materials and electricity, there are a lot of useful things there.
        1. Abbot
          Abbot 13 November 2022 13: 20
          +1
          Quote from Gromit
          In the future, they also count on economic preferences. All the same, Ukraine is a major supplier of raw materials and electricity, there are a lot of useful things there.

          Oh is it? It has been a month since Ukraine stopped exporting electricity to the EU. The reasons, I hope, do not need to be explained. In general, these fairy tales about economic cooperation, Western investment and other crap are firmly entrenched in the brains. Romania, Bulgaria, the Baltics, the Balkans... and other economic miracles. Even Poland. You will apply for help there, they will tell you a lot of interesting things about economic preferences and benefits.
          1. gromit
            gromit 13 November 2022 16: 16
            -2
            As they stopped exporting, they will resume. I will even explain the reasons - 60% of Ukrainian electricity comes from nuclear power plants. The rest is HPS. Is one destroyed? And the accompanying infrastructure will be restored in a couple of months after the end of the war.

            Maybe crap, but in Poland they live on average richer than in the Russian Federation. There are 40 billionaires for 7 million Poles, and in the Russian Federation only officially - 103.
            Here is the answer to why Western propaganda is successful.
            In Latvia, Russians are discriminated against, but they look across the border at the Pskov region with its 12000 rubles per capita and prefer their swamp to Russian "prosperity".
            Until there is an inspiring social idea, nothing will shine for the Russian world.
            1. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke 13 November 2022 20: 52
              +3
              Quote from Gromit
              As they stopped exporting, they will resume. I will even explain the reasons - 60% of Ukrainian electricity comes from nuclear power plants.

              Westinghouse will supply them with such fuel assemblies that Chernobyl will seem like a paradise.
            2. Abbot
              Abbot 13 November 2022 21: 46
              +5
              Quote from Gromit
              As they stopped exporting, they will resume. I will even explain the reasons - 60% of Ukrainian electricity comes from nuclear power plants. The rest is HPS. Is one destroyed? And the accompanying infrastructure will be restored in a couple of months after the end of the war.

              Maybe crap, but in Poland they live on average richer than in the Russian Federation. There are 40 billionaires for 7 million Poles, and in the Russian Federation only officially - 103.
              Here is the answer to why Western propaganda is successful.
              In Latvia, Russians are discriminated against, but they look across the border at the Pskov region with its 12000 rubles per capita and prefer their swamp to Russian "prosperity".
              Until there is an inspiring social idea, nothing will shine for the Russian world.

              Sorry, but you seem to be under illusions imposed by that very propaganda. The 60% share of nuclear energy is the result of a long-term decline in production at thermal power plants, wear and tear of distribution network equipment and transformer stations. In the same Makar, export capacities are formed due to a drop in domestic electricity consumption due to de-industrialization. Have you heard of this one? Ukraine was selling to the West the resulting surpluses, which will not grow at such a pace either. The Ukrainian industrial potential is being destroyed consistently and systematically, and with it the energy sector. Ask yourself, is the EU nafeihua Ukraine as a supplier of relatively cheap electricity to European markets? Let me remind you what happened to the nuclear power industry in Lithuania. It was destroyed, the only nuclear power plant was liquidated. This was one of the conditions for joining the EU. Therefore, forget about "Ukraine is a major electricity supplier", this is a sales market.

              Calculations of the standard of living of the Poles by the number of billionaires in Russia amused. They reminded Rezun, who, using tarpaulin boots, revealed insidious plans for an attack on Europe. The stories are different, the method is the same. By the way, in the Pskov region the average salary is about 35 thousand. Where did you get "12000 rubles per capita" from, I don't know. Probably fables about Ukraine from the same opera. No offense.
              1. gromit
                gromit 13 November 2022 23: 51
                -5
                No offense.
                It's not nice to disappoint you.
                There are only 11 nuclear power plants in the Russian Federation, which is less than in Ukraine, taking into account the population difference. (And we from the Leningrad region, by the way, supply Finland).
                And the average salary of 35 thousand in the Pskov region does not take into account children, maternity leave, pensioners and the disabled.
                The average per capita income in the Pskov region is 12 (data from VCIOM)
                But don't worry about them.
                BEYOND the poverty line 34% of the population of Tyva, 30% - Ingushetia, 24% - KBR, 22% - Altai, 23% - Kalmykia, EAO, KChR., 20% - Chechnya (hello effective Kadyrov!) ... Further laziness to list, use Yandex and official sources.

                After the collapse of the USSR, how many power units were launched on the territory of the Russian Federation?
                How many in Ukraine?
                Use the search and you will find out that the collapse, impoverishment and powerlessness of Ukraine are somewhat exaggerated.

                PS I would be glad if we fought against a miserable and impoverished state. Only it's not.
                And I did not begin to calculate the absolute value of the billions of the bourgeois in Poland and the Russian Federation, so as not to disturb the braces once again. And there the difference is not 10 times, but much more.
                1. Abbot
                  Abbot 14 November 2022 01: 01
                  +2
                  Quote from Gromit
                  I would be glad if we fought with a miserable and impoverished state. Only it's not.

                  It's exactly like that. Therefore, for the Armed Forces of Ukraine they are assembled all over the world. The provision is completely Western. Don't you see it? Information is constantly published on VO. And if we still have our own resources, then this is precisely the colossal backlog of the Soviet period, looking at which one can only cry behind the curtain.
                  Quote from Gromit
                  The average per capita income in the Pskov region is 12 (data from VCIOM)

                  VTsIOM? Are you seriously? The All-Russian Center for the Study of Public Opinion... Forgive me, but... I am speechless and fall into a stupor. Are other figures and data also from VTsIOM? How would it be okay, what can I say ... admit defeat.
                  1. gromit
                    gromit 14 November 2022 09: 14
                    0
                    Here is a link to Rosstat, section on Inequality and Poverty.
                    https://rosstat.gov.ru/folder/13723

                    53% of the country's citizens live on income below 27 thousand rubles. 34,5% - less than 19 thousand rubles, and 20,6% - less than 14 thousand rubles.

                    How the median salary is calculated and how it differs from the average salary in the region I am too lazy to argue.
                    It's the internet, you can't convince anyone here
                    1. Abbot
                      Abbot 14 November 2022 10: 01
                      -1
                      Quote from Gromit
                      Here is a link to Rosstat, section on Inequality and Poverty.
                      https://rosstat.gov.ru/folder/13723

                      Rsstat? How unexpected! And where did VCIOM go? Okay, we read on your link: the average per capita monetary income of the population by subjects - Pskov region. (37th position in the table), 2020 - 26,444, 2021 - 29,303, 2022 for the II quarter - 32,090. There is data for August - the last month of the reporting period - 37,439. https://rosstat.gov.ru/storage/mediabank/Urov_10subg-nm.xlsx
                      Quote from Gromit
                      53% of the country's citizens live on income below 27 thousand rubles. 34,5% - less than 19 thousand rubles, and 20,6% - less than 14 thousand rubles.

                      From the Pskov region you did not succeed, we are already talking for the whole of Russia. Okay, I don't mind. You understand, I'm not saying that the incomes of people in Russia are milk rivers and jelly banks. But you obviously underestimate, even in comparison with Latvia. By the way, what about in Latvia? Depopulation, migration, degradation. But the idea of ​​Western superiority and European well-being is so ingrained in the brains of some interlocutors that even outright fascist actions and discrimination can be turned a blind eye. And they are not friendly with numbers.
                      Quote from Gromit
                      How the median salary is calculated and how it differs from the average salary in the region I am too lazy to argue.

                      As you wish, the above is enough for me.
                      1. gromit
                        gromit 14 November 2022 11: 38
                        +1
                        It's nice to communicate with a real interlocutor, and not with a bot.

                        I'll try to argue.
                        So, I voiced the data of some survey (which also caused my legitimate distrust until I spent half an hour working with open sources and a calculator), instead of the seemingly quite decent Rosstat. Why do I think that it is closer to reality?

                        In an attempt to analyze the situation, I used the following information: Rosstat, a note from the Russian newspaper (article - Every fifth Pskov citizen receives less than 15.tr)
                        And the statistical database bdex.ru
                        Average salary - when the salaries of all employees are added up and divided by their number.
                        The median salary is when we discard the highest and lowest paid employees in pairs until we reach the middle of the list.

                        And what do we get with this approach?
                        The average IT salary in this region is 46t. But the average salary of a Go developer is 64 tons, a system administrator is 29 tons. Tester 26t,
                        In medicine, the average is 33t.r.
                        Trade - average 27 tr. (Manager 38 tr, cashier 24 tr, seller 20 tr)
                        Average salary in the agricultural sector 26.t.r.
                        (It's generally bad.)

                        The number of chief doctors, directors and advanced developers is much inferior to the number of nurses, order pickers and system administrators.
                        The poor also marry and have children. So, children do not earn, and their average number is 2.
                        Accordingly, the income of the parents must be divided by 2.

                        That is why telephone surveys give such a strange picture.

                        I'm not saying that it's good in Latvia, I'm just explaining what the border Russian region looks like, which, in theory, should form a positive impression among Russian Latvians.

                        For 8 years, Russian Ukrainians were shown Poland on the one hand, and Donetsk on the other. Here is the result.
                      2. Abbot
                        Abbot 14 November 2022 12: 16
                        0
                        Quote from Gromit
                        It's nice to communicate with a real interlocutor, and not with a bot.

                        Mutually
                      3. Abbot
                        Abbot 14 November 2022 13: 11
                        0
                        Let me remind you where we started.
                        In Latvia, Russians are discriminated against, but they look across the border at the Pskov region with its 12000 rubles per capita and prefer their swamp to Russian "prosperity". Until there is an inspiring social idea, nothing will shine for the Russian world.

                        Agree, with 12 thousand per capita you got excited. You wrote a lot about incomes in Russia, that official statistics, due to the obvious spread in incomes due to terrible social stratification, contain flaws and do not fully reflect reality. Yes, I won't mind. But in the same Latvia, the department of statistics is the same, the stratification is the same, the flaws are the same, only with national specifics. All these are sad grimaces of post-Soviet capitalism. And if you write "what does the border Russian region look like, which, in theory, should form a positive impression among Russian Latvians", then you will reasonably be noticed that modern Latvia does not in any way draw on the billboard of prosperity. Migration from the Pskov region to Latvia is not observed. But you can find out what kind of charts they drew before membership in the EU and NATO. And here I want to return you to your main delusion
                        In the future, they also count on economic preferences. All the same, Ukraine is a major supplier of raw materials and electricity, there are a lot of useful things there.

                        With the same scrupulousness and a calculator in hand, take a look at the Ukrainian economy in its "development", especially after the signing of the association. The West had the option of joining the EU, but they chose a different path - a coup d'état, the ATO, a war with the Russian Federation. Or they could postpone the entry, play with early elections and suck out of Ukraine everything that you pointed out - raw materials, energy, specialists, etc., simultaneously filling all social niches with a pro-Western worldview. But mayo, sho mayo.
                      4. gromit
                        gromit 14 November 2022 14: 14
                        +1
                        I understand what our main misunderstanding is.
                        "In the future, they are also counting on economic preferences."
                        This does not apply to Ukrainians.

                        It is the Swedes who, in addition to developing their own military-industrial complex, expect to participate in the division of Ukrainian resources.
                      5. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 14 November 2022 15: 18
                        +2
                        Quote: Abbot
                        12 thousand per capita you got excited

                        Is not a fact. Take for example my family and my friend's family. I have 3 young children + wife, he only has a wife. I work alone, my friend has two. I have a salary of 37, his wife has 30 + 20. As a result, he has a per capita income of 25, I have less than 10. On average, let it be 12, but here's the catch - which family is more promising for the state in theory, and in fact?
                        PS And to understand how the Poles and the Balts live, you need to go there. I have a sister in Estonia for permanent residence, lives much better than the average resident of Russia. A fact that I have personally witnessed.
                      6. Abbot
                        Abbot 14 November 2022 15: 59
                        +2
                        It remains only to wish for NG, which is just around the corner, salary increases and financial well-being for your family. On the p.s. If your sister is an average resident of Estonia, then I have nothing to object to. And I wish her financial well-being. I wish everyone an increase in financial savings in bank accounts. Absolutely!
                      7. gromit
                        gromit 14 November 2022 16: 02
                        0
                        Good example.
                        In theory, you are more promising, a healthy family with enough children.

                        But here the inhuman logic of capitalism comes into play.
                        In fact, your friend's family is more profitable.
                        The total wage is greater, hence the explicit and implicit taxes are also greater.
                        More precisely, the employer gives 43% to the state, and the employee sees only -13%
                        The gray salary also does not save.
                        Indeed, in each trading iteration, 20% VAT is sewn up.

                        Simplified: A farmer sold a cow for meat - VAT, sold a sausage factory to a store - VAT, sold a sausage store to a citizen - VAT.
                        Of course, all this VAT from each operation is included in the price and paid by citizens.

                        The ideal scheme is as follows: a citizen should be born in another impoverished country, grow up, emigrate, work hard, then die of overwork before reaching retirement age and leaving no offspring.

                        People are the new oil, a renewable resource.
                        And unfortunately, except for slogans, the Russian Federation is no different from the Western colonialists.

                        In theory, of course, because in practice, having lost the war and collapsed, we ourselves will become suppliers of human raw materials. And in the countries of suppliers they live as badly as possible, so that raw materials do not linger.
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      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik 13 November 2022 13: 20
        +1
        Quote: SARMAT123
        I'm also shocked to be honest. They are already delivering open. And ours are still mumbling about partnership. Supply hydrocarbons

        Yes, what a shock, their business friends are there and they will never trample against. They steal here, but live there, although the phrase is commonplace, it is essentially true.
      3. guest
        guest 13 November 2022 15: 41
        -3
        Well, it’s useless to expect something else from the comprador elite that has settled in us since the 90s.
    2. Hitriy Zhuk
      Hitriy Zhuk 13 November 2022 11: 17
      -2
      You can fit something to the barmaley if they promise to climb only in Europe.
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 13 November 2022 11: 36
        +3
        Of course, you can stimulate the local Kurds. They settled there, as far as they know.
        1. stankow
          stankow 13 November 2022 11: 54
          -12
          And what is ten shells? Laughter, not a fire mission. And where did he go? When did you get back to the OP? No, they don't fight like that.
          1. Negro
            Negro 13 November 2022 18: 55
            +1
            Quote: stankow
            No, they don't fight like that.

            So do not fight those who do not have such opportunities. And Archer is the best self-propelled gun of its class today. 6 vehicles can arrive, ship 5 tons of shells to conditional Belgorod and leave. For everything about everything - three minutes. At the same time, the calculation does not even leave the cars.
            1. stankow
              stankow 14 November 2022 01: 32
              0
              That's not how they fight. This is not a computer game for you. You have a historical chance - see how art works - for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, for the militia. But not what correspondents show! Watch the video. If you don't understand what's going on, we'll explain! I have the honor, reserve officer, artillery captain.
              1. Negro
                Negro 14 November 2022 07: 32
                -1
                Quote: stankow
                But not what correspondents show! Watch the video

                Sounds contradictory, you know.
                1. stankow
                  stankow 14 November 2022 12: 50
                  0
                  Why "controversial". You need to have an eye to see in a fraction of a second how the position is prepared and what combat work has been done. If they publish pictures and videos, I will try to comment. We have seen a lot of interesting things in 9 months. More than with the advent of the Internet 30 years ago.
                  1. Negro
                    Negro 14 November 2022 13: 23
                    -1
                    Many things. For example, I remember positions around which half a wagon of empty shells was piled. This means that counter-battery work is not carried out by the enemy. Or this gun hits the white light like a pretty penny and, accordingly, does not bother the enemy.

                    Archers allow you to work in a fundamentally different way. In fact, this is no longer artillery, but another OTRK.
                    1. stankow
                      stankow 14 November 2022 23: 48
                      0
                      So if there are a bunch of shells around - the weapon should not harm the enemy? laughing laughing I am speechless! wink
                      1. Negro
                        Negro 15 November 2022 08: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: stankow
                        So if there are a lot of shells around - do not harm the enemy

                        Naturally. We saw a lot of fields plowed by artillery. If this artillery position had seriously interfered with someone, they would have flown back quite quickly.
                      2. stankow
                        stankow 15 November 2022 22: 53
                        0
                        We saw you, briefly. And how it turns out, why and when - you don’t want to know. You have your own version, which explains and replaces all art. science. Well, live with it. Just a lot to miss wink
                      3. Negro
                        Negro 16 November 2022 00: 18
                        0
                        Do you have something to say on the topic or just ran in to check in?
                      4. stankow
                        stankow 16 November 2022 12: 19
                        0
                        I said many times, but no, everything is on your own, you know better.
    3. novel66
      novel66 13 November 2022 11: 54
      0
      although questions still remain .... for example
  3. Hey
    Hey 13 November 2022 11: 08
    +20
    If you do not take offensive actions and do not strive to overthrow the current Ukrainian government, but sit on the defensive, then Ukraine will be so pumped up with weapons that it can turn into the collapse of Russia.
    1. tun5t
      tun5t 13 November 2022 11: 18
      -10
      maybe, it can’t... In knowledge (Veda is in Sanskrit, and Sanskrit is a means of control, sounds, vibrations emitted by the speaker and completely influencing matter, depending on the status of the speaker), so in knowledge this victory has already happened, it remains for us to embody - be sure!
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 13 November 2022 20: 59
        +1
        Quote: tun5t
        in knowledge this victory has already happened, it remains for us to realize it - be sure!

        The main thing is not to jump out beyond the limits prescribed by the doctor. tongue
        1. tun5t
          tun5t 14 November 2022 17: 18
          -1
          Come on, dear, the Vedas are meant for the strong in spirit and nerves. The rest would have to start from the basics ... but here I dragged the properties of time in an ant tribe with a sinful deed! Sorry for the flight of desires, the reality is simple - why the heck raise your head above the horizon, if there, on the horizon, the object of all desires is the enemy, our dear!
          In general, it doesn’t matter, the victory is ours, and the price is three by three (Bavishti Purana is in your understanding, if there are such smart tongue lol )
    2. poquello
      poquello 13 November 2022 11: 21
      -11
      Quote: MUD
      If you do not take offensive actions and do not strive to overthrow the current Ukrainian government, but sit on the defensive, then Ukraine will be so pumped up with weapons that it can turn into the collapse of Russia.

      it's like this, pumped up there and then the collapse?
    3. guest
      guest 13 November 2022 15: 43
      +2
      Quote: MUD
      Ukraine will be so pumped up with weapons that it can turn into the collapse of Russia.

      So this is the main goal of the West.
  4. Buyan
    Buyan 13 November 2022 11: 09
    +3
    In all wars, the Swedes always shit on us fool
    1. poquello
      poquello 13 November 2022 11: 25
      0
      Quote from Buyan
      In all wars, the Swedes always shit on us fool

      they have a long memory and zero gratitude, now they say such thanks all the time for the fact that Peter1 did not take their capital, he regretted
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 14 November 2022 18: 01
      -1
      Quote from Buyan
      In all wars, the Swedes always shit on us

      Maybe that's why they crap, so that later they can sell the Baltic states again.
      They beat the price. what
  5. tun5t
    tun5t 13 November 2022 11: 12
    -2
    Quote from nellyjuri
    Let them send the spirit of Charles 12 over Ukraine. Near Poltava.

    good laughing hi drinks
  6. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 13 November 2022 11: 18
    +4
    Has the stork from Gorki -9 noticed the red lines yet?
    1. guest
      guest 13 November 2022 15: 44
      0
      Well the party line always fluctuates, no matter the color.
  7. Dartanian
    Dartanian 13 November 2022 11: 20
    0
    Surrender of Kherson on the face .... All and sundry will supply weapons to the Ukrainians and spit on us all, too, and who is not lazy
    1. tun5t
      tun5t 13 November 2022 11: 27
      -3
      According to euronews, eloquent footage shows how the “waiters” of their Nazis meet in Kherson with delight and flowers, a lot can be said on the topic from the point of view of knowledge, one thing is important - everyone is equal before God, but when they turn away, it’s worse for them.
      1. solar
        solar 13 November 2022 17: 03
        +2
        Did they ever turn around? March videos from Kherson - Russian military greet such crowds with the same yellow-black flags
  8. coinsam
    coinsam 13 November 2022 11: 24
    +3
    This, of course, is objectively bad.
    But, apparently, they no longer have anything of the old.
  9. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 13 November 2022 11: 28
    +8
    And our authorities are still dreaming of continuing negotiations and "friendship" with the West! Even the bears in the forest have already understood: the goal of the West is to destroy Russia with the hands of Ukroreikh! Well, how much you can mumble - it's time to start fighting the enemy!
    1. spirit
      spirit 13 November 2022 12: 58
      +4
      Well, bears live in the forest, we have) And the children of "Putin's patriots" are just in the west. Who is a lover of Scandinavian real estate there? Timchenko?)
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 13 November 2022 20: 40
        -1
        Timchenko is a well-deserved "patriot".
        Once he took Sobchak on Cessna from under a subscription not to leave the hillock, saving Putin from investigation.
        So he is already "his own on the board."
    2. guest
      guest 13 November 2022 15: 47
      +1
      Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
      It's time to start fighting the enemy!

      This is certainly true, but how to do it while some enemies still have influence on our power.
    3. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 13 November 2022 20: 33
      0
      It has long been known that there are brown and white bears.
      It turns out that there are also "shitty" bears.
  10. Dronza
    Dronza 13 November 2022 11: 32
    -3
    The Swedes have not bad artillery systems, it would be necessary to trophy a couple for analysis.
  11. Leonidych
    Leonidych 13 November 2022 11: 33
    +4
    Bad, very bad. There are more and more modern weapons. Another wave of mobilization. If we sit on the defensive and wait for the whole West to arm them, train them, then all this for us may end badly in autumn. But let's hope that we still have the military and politicians who do not want defeat. All hope is in them. And our fighters.
    1. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 13 November 2022 11: 37
      -3
      Leonidych hi, hope, hope, of course.
      1. Leonidych
        Leonidych 13 November 2022 11: 52
        +2
        And what else remains. You can't jump above your head anyway.
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 November 2022 11: 35
    +2
    at the end of the summer, the Swedes agreed to consider the supply of self-propelled guns and air defense systems.
    And already the end of autumn and accession to NATO is looming, so it's time. If I'm not mistaken, the Swedes, even before the start of the NMD, supplied weapons to Ukraine, making a footnote that it was defensive. Now it's time for heavy weapons. So far, everything is according to the plan of the Anglo-Saxons.
  13. Sebostyuan
    Sebostyuan 13 November 2022 11: 38
    -10
    For now, the army has found an antidote. These are KUB, Lancet, LMUR. If the industry succeeds in mass-producing these products, and in the army they become commonplace as ATGMs, then the Europeans will have dark days.
    1. neworange88
      neworange88 13 November 2022 11: 50
      -1
      Well, I don’t know. Does anyone have accurate data on the losses of Western equipment in Ukraine?
      Unless the military-analytical portal Lostarmour collected, calculated and published data on confirmed losses in Ukraine of the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, transferred from the countries of the Western world to Kyiv during a special operation by Russia. But the list contains only those weapons for which there is a photograph or video. It is clear that not everything was photographed and filmed. Our Defense Ministry would do well to sort out the losses of foreign equipment. How much, where and when. Otherwise, it’s like a secret.
      . we are talking about proven destruction or damage. So, towed howitzers M777 with a 155-mm caliber of American-British production were destroyed - 33, damaged - 3. 155-mm damaged - 3. American M1 self-propelled guns of 155-mm caliber destroyed - 1, damaged - 109. European (Germany, Italy and Great Britain) FH155 towed howitzers of 6-mm caliber destroyed - 5, damaged - 70.

      Also, 2 units of Soviet field guns BS-3 of 100 mm caliber, model 1944, were destroyed. In total, 1 unit was destroyed: British L119 towed howitzers of 105-mm caliber, Czechoslovak self-propelled guns vz.77 Dana (“Dana”) 152-mm and RM-70 MLRS (version of the Soviet MLRS BM-21 or Grad), as well as the Soviet 152-mm divisional self-propelled howitzer 2S3 "Acacia".

      https://topcor.ru/29308-opublikovany-podtverzhdennye-poteri-artillerii-nato-na-ukraine.html
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 13 November 2022 12: 04
        -1
        I think not a single chimera was caught ... which is the saddest thing in my opinion
        1. neworange88
          neworange88 13 November 2022 12: 18
          -4
          Quote: vitvit123
          I think not a single chimera was caught ... which is the saddest thing in my opinion


          The destruction of HIMARS has been repeatedly announced and the vidos seem to be there.
          https://yandex.ru/video/touch/preview/16133518148619266668

          Here is another video at the link below. The RF Armed Forces showed the destruction of the American HIMARS, which hit the Antonovsky bridge in Kherson.
          https://topwar.ru/199984-vs-rf-pokazali-unichtozhenie-amerikanskogo-himars-bivshego-po-antonovskomu-mostu-v-hersone.html
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 13 November 2022 13: 32
            +5
            The first link refers to Kanashenkov and there is no point in looking further ..
            Second link: where did you see the chimera there? I saw only an explosion of some kind of equipment there!
            Well, when will we stop wishful thinking?
            There is even info stuffing and it confirms that we didn’t catch anything, because. at first, when the Americans put chimeras, then Kanashegkov and others like them tried to splurge in every possible way, like we beat them out and they are not afraid of us, but now everyone is silent! Something now no one is talking about that we are blowing up chimeras! Because now the people are already accustomed to chimeras and the news on chimeras is commonplace for them, you can not reassure! Chimeras kicked us out of Kherson and a large number of su .. if we could catch chimeras, then they wouldn’t leave Kherson .. all this is very simple, so it’s even difficult to explain ..
    2. stankow
      stankow 13 November 2022 11: 56
      0
      The production of Lancets seems to have been adjusted.
      1. neworange88
        neworange88 13 November 2022 12: 04
        +1
        We need a modification with a range of 100-150 km. A sort of Lancet-4. Here it will be a thing. And it is desirable that these Lancets be placed on a machine like rockets in MLRS, as the Chinese recently showed their BBPs in this design at an exhibition. The Lancet is very difficult to detect. , it was announced about laser protection so that the air defense would not shoot down the Lancet.
        1. Sebostyuan
          Sebostyuan 13 November 2022 13: 00
          0
          Such a system is also needed, but it will be a different weapon. SZBPL.
      2. Sebostyuan
        Sebostyuan 13 November 2022 13: 08
        +3
        Settled. TG channel "Spetsnaz Archangels" said that we have a lot of them.
        And there should be more. At the company level, an addition to the ATGM calculations. Then the infantry will be able to conduct their counter-battery work without lengthy coordination.
  14. bath
    bath 13 November 2022 11: 55
    +1
    Everything is caused by Russia's weakness, everything stems from Russia's strategic mistakes.

    All this pandered to the encouragement of foreign states.
  15. km-21
    km-21 13 November 2022 12: 02
    -2
    The West, under the talk of its weakness and fatigue, is nevertheless steadily increasing the supply of weapons (as well as personnel) to Kyiv. Russia, for its part, is responding with partial mobilization and waves of attacks by Iranian drones. It is obvious that the West (in the field of conventional weapons) has much more military resources than Russia, which in the end, sooner or later, will ensure the strategic superiority of the Kyiv regime over our very limited contingent. Therefore, if we want to defeat at least Ukraine, the supply of weapons to Kyiv must be stopped.

    The experience of the previous eight months suggests that it is not in our power to reliably suppress the transport infrastructure of Ukraine. It is also not very successful to make Ukraine's power industry look like a nightmare. At the very least, the strikes that are inflicted on the Ukrainian infrastructure do not greatly reduce the combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    The only way left to influence the West is to identify a real threat to the existence of the West itself. To do this, it is necessary to remind the Europeans in the strongest possible way about Russian nuclear weapons and demonstrate Russia's readiness to go all the way. Moreover, this should be done not with rhetorical statements, but with a demonstrative (!!!) warning (!!!) single (!!!) nuclear strike on Polish Rzeszow, the most important transport and logistics hub of NATO in this conflict.

    After such an act, the Europeans will realize the real prospect of their death and think about their behavior, which in the end gives a chance to agree on peaceful coexistence. Any other options will either lead to the defeat of Russia and its unilateral destruction, or to a full-scale nuclear war with the destruction of a significant part of all mankind.
    1. Ivan Fokin_2
      Ivan Fokin_2 13 November 2022 12: 58
      -1
      Of course, it’s good for psheks, but it’s better for the railway tunnel in the west of Sharovria, a blow is needed without fail with a warning to "dear partners" the next ones will be for you. For a long time we will pretend to be noble.
    2. Negro
      Negro 13 November 2022 18: 50
      +2
      Quote: km-21
      Moreover, this should be done not with rhetorical statements, but with a demonstrative (!!!) warning (!!!) single (!!!) nuclear strike on Polish Rzeszow - the most important transport and logistics hub of NATO in this conflict.

      After such an act, the Europeans will realize the real prospect of their death and think about their behavior,

      )))
      Do you still want to beg for a preventive full-scale strike?
  16. iouris
    iouris 13 November 2022 12: 24
    0
    And they also blew up the gas pipeline... Or accomplices.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 13 November 2022 20: 11
      0
      Quote: iouris
      And they also blew up the gas pipeline... Or accomplices.

      The gas pipeline is not to them, but to economic competitors.
      Why feel sorry for him.
  17. Arkady007
    Arkady007 13 November 2022 12: 25
    +7
    The less success we have, the more opponents we will have.
  18. Anadyrean
    Anadyrean 13 November 2022 12: 34
    0
    Complete repetition of 1941. Nearly.
  19. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 13 November 2022 12: 40
    +9
    This decision was prompted by Sweden's lightning-fast operation to redeploy Russian troops from Kherson to the left bank of the Dnieper. Does the Kremlin realize the consequences of their idiotic decisions - the voluntary surrender of their own territories to the enemy - and that the image of Russia is already below the plinth in the world?
  20. Stakan
    Stakan 13 November 2022 13: 02
    -3
    The whole of Europe is rushing weapons to ukroreich again .. And they don’t think about the future, because this is the blood of Russian soldiers! You have to answer..
  21. Tim
    Tim 13 November 2022 13: 09
    0
    Is it possible to destroy the Swedish maritime transport during the delivery of weapons destined for Ukraine? Sweden is not yet a member of NATO.
    1. solar
      solar 13 November 2022 17: 06
      +1
      NATO has already stated that in the event of attacks on Sweden and Finland, they will consider this an attack on NATO.
  22. Ogorodov_Sergey
    Ogorodov_Sergey 13 November 2022 13: 36
    0
    The Russian people have acquired a new meaning. Foolish "saving the world" goes out of the heads. Welcome REVENGE. We will get to the Swedes, but first we need to punish the traitors in the leadership.
  23. Vlad Victorich
    Vlad Victorich 13 November 2022 13: 58
    0
    Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
    And our authorities are still dreaming of continuing negotiations and "friendship" with the West! Even the bears in the forest have already understood: the goal of the West is to destroy Russia with the hands of Ukroreikh! Well, how much you can mumble - it's time to start fighting the enemy!

    This is when it’s a shame for the State ... And so, if without an anthem and without a flag, with Comrade. Tchaikovsky, despite the murmur of the population ... then you can chew on the "patriotic" chaff for a long time. Although no. Apparently not for long. The curtain will be in any case: either for us or not for us.
  24. opuonmed
    opuonmed 13 November 2022 15: 06
    +1
    Sweden gives weapons to kill Russian soldiers! let's remember it!
  25. Negro
    Negro 13 November 2022 18: 59
    0
    In Kyiv itself, they hope that the Swedes will supply Archer self-propelled howitzers to the Armed Forces of Ukraine


    Hmm, it seems that the best and most expensive of the wheeled self-propelled guns has not yet been in battle. Well, let's see.
  26. DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 13 November 2022 20: 04
    +1
    Quote: guest
    Quote: Abbot
    Force not to deliver at the moment there is no way

    There are opportunities, but they categorically do not want to use them.

    Could you list these possibilities?
    This is about the possibilities of influencing the Swedes.
  27. Stanislav82
    Stanislav82 13 November 2022 21: 58
    0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhJoTtj1Q_E просто оставлю для просмотра.
  28. oleg-nekrasov-19
    oleg-nekrasov-19 14 November 2022 09: 58
    +1
    Well, you can promise a lot of things, as well as announce bully
  29. shnaiderander
    shnaiderander 14 November 2022 13: 49
    0
    They forgot Poltava. Nothing will happen to you, you will wash yourself with blood.