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Ukraine confirms Russian night strikes on military and energy facilities

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Ukraine confirms Russian night strikes on military and energy facilities

Russian troops continue to strike at the critical infrastructure of Ukraine, over the past day, explosions have thundered in many regions of the country. The "arrivals" are reported by local authorities, as well as by the Ukrainian press.


An air alert throughout Ukraine was announced in the evening. A series of explosions sounded in Kharkov and its environs, local public confirmed that the sounds of arrivals were heard in the city. Nikopol in the Dnepropetrovsk region also came under attack, which is confirmed by the publications of the local press. It is not disclosed which objects were hit, and there is no information about what hits were inflicted, but most likely the Geran-2 kamikaze drones worked on military and energy facilities.

It also flew over Nikolaev, which, to the surprise of the operational command "South" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, remained in the affected area even after the withdrawal of Russian troops to the right bank of the Dnieper. There are no obstacles for Russian missiles and drones, Ukrainian air defense cannot cope with strikes, although on paper everything is quite the opposite. Arrivals were confirmed in the Cherkasy region, but the governor of this region, Igor Tribunets, said that it was allegedly "working" air defense, shooting down Russian missiles and drones. He did not confirm hits on objects, but he did not refute them either, he simply ignored the question. In the near zone, objects in Artemovsk and Druzhkovka were hit.

Meanwhile, the United States said that the constant attacks of Russian troops on the energy system of Ukraine carry "huge risks", so the Americans will help Kyiv protect critical infrastructure from strikes. In addition, Washington promises to restore everything that "Russia has destroyed."

We are just as determined to help Ukraine protect critical infrastructure and, of course, replace and repair what is damaged.

- said the head of the US State Department, Anthony Blinken.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 13 November 2022 08: 33
    +18
    Bring down the bank servers, it will be fun in Ukraine.
    1. Fisherman
      Fisherman 13 November 2022 08: 43
      +22
      at first there will be a shock .... then the Yankees will bring bucks in cash and begin to issue mercenary bucks right in the green. Last night it was a "disturbing fire" ... when our people really beat us - the whole of Ukraine howls! But to replace the Internet with them by looking at the stars in the dark sky, so that during the day zombies walk along the streets of Kyiv and look again at what is happening around, at nature and the weather, appreciate life and do not think about going to die. It will be better for everyone!
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 13 November 2022 09: 27
        +7
        We fire harassing fire "once a month", so, of course, this will not give the desired effect .. at least every day a little key objects were disabled, the effect would also be good. And then we wrote here, we are saving rockets with shahids so that bam and bomb everything at once .. this would not be bad either, but at least we need to bomb in any way .. if we can’t often massively, then we need every day not massively, one at a time turn off the city..
        1. mitroha
          mitroha 13 November 2022 09: 44
          +7
          In addition, Washington promises to restore everything that "Russia has destroyed."

          Let them begin. At the same time, they will calculate how much more expensive the transformer is than a flower.
          The brave ones made promises after the elections, although even the administrative resource, coupled with dead souls, did not give a significant advantage, which means everything is very bad.
          1. Fisherman
            Fisherman 13 November 2022 22: 23
            +5
            so the transformers are all over, the warehouses are empty, our Zaporozhye transformer bombed not so long ago, the European standard does not work and the control systems are not the same system, for about a year now picking them in the dark.
        2. Fisherman
          Fisherman 13 November 2022 22: 21
          +3
          you should not turn off the light in advance and destroy the system with it, such actions must be carried out in cold weather and on the eve of the Great Offensive in order to immediately paralyze the possibilities of logistics, communications and control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    2. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 13 November 2022 11: 10
      +7
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Bring down the bank servers, it will be fun in Ukraine.

      It is necessary to cut the cables at the shavers, it will be fun for everyone.
  2. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 13 November 2022 08: 38
    -17
    I have a stupid question - if the Ukrainians still release their announced shahid moped in commercial quantities by NG, is the Russian air defense ready to repel the simultaneous arrival of at least 10000 of these pieces?
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 13 November 2022 08: 41
      +7
      Not a single air defense system can withstand 10 pieces. But you still need to prepare "mare drivers".
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 13 November 2022 08: 44
      +6
      10 kilopedes at a time belay I can believe in two dozen in some one direction ... It seems Shilka is best suited for this. Particularly important objects may be covered. About the rest, no
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 13 November 2022 08: 57
        +5
        dmi.pris-for such a mass of kamikaze drones, you will need to have dozens of Shilok, Tunguska and even cannon artillery on a narrow section of the front, which makes all this equipment an excellent target for MLRS! production sites can be a deterrent as a defense against massive strikes from such weapons.
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 13 November 2022 09: 01
          +3
          What front are you talking about? I'm talking about the protection of objects in the rear, hundreds of miles from the front. Catching them at the front is hopeless
          1. Romario_Argo
            Romario_Argo 13 November 2022 09: 40
            +4
            the goals of the NWO are also the overthrow of the fascist regime
            - you need to cut off the head of the snake
            destroy Zelensky, Zaluzhny and selectively the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine
            LOT: Zelensky - "0", Zaluzhny - "06"
            1. dmi.pris
              dmi.pris 13 November 2022 09: 49
              +1
              This had to be done right away. Now it will already look like revenge. However, our enemies used to be destroyed over the hill in years ..
              1. Romario_Argo
                Romario_Argo 13 November 2022 10: 25
                0
                now it will look like our MOVE under the G20 summit
                1. Ded60
                  Ded60 13 November 2022 13: 17
                  +5
                  So I'm wondering - what's the difference, how for whom it will look like ?? Will this slavish glance at someone ever get rid of? Oh oh oh, what will they say? .... further down the list, who will say.
        2. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 13 November 2022 09: 30
          +1
          Yes, I also want to add. Such a "moped" flies from one specific direction. They do not maneuver, as far as I know. Can objects be covered with mesh balloons?
          1. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 13 November 2022 11: 04
            -2
            Quote: dmi.pris
            Yes, I also want to add. Such a "moped" flies from one specific direction.They don't maneuveras far as I know. Can objects be covered with mesh balloons?

            They do not maneuver, because no one even bothered to rewrite the flight control program)) And so, even though "artistic ballet in the air" can be flashed, there are ready-made firmware a long time ago good And I would look at the work of air defense, when the shahid moped "Saber Dance" gets up in the air)))))))))))))
        3. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 13 November 2022 11: 14
          +1
          Quote: Thrifty
          !We need to identify the place of production of drones, and take it to pieces! Only the defeat of places of production can be a deterrent as a defense against massive strikes with such weapons.

          But it seems to me that the destruction of the ruling elite Svido Ukria is more effective than everything else. In any case, any military operation begins with the destruction of decision-making centers. Will they appoint new ones? Destroy new ones. For this, Russia has
          technical capabilities .
          1. Ded60
            Ded60 13 November 2022 13: 19
            0
            And who, in your opinion, is the "ruling elite" of Ukraine and where are the "decision-making centers"?
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 13 November 2022 14: 04
              -1
              Quote: Ded60
              And who, in your opinion, is the "ruling elite" of Ukraine and where are the "decision-making centers"?

              And in your opinion?
      2. YOUR
        YOUR 13 November 2022 09: 12
        +3
        There is a film on the TV program "Military Acceptance", a film about the ZRPK "Pantsir". They were never able to shoot down a plane target from cannons. Although the operator of the target put it under fire in every possible way. They destroyed it with a rocket.
        1. Lykases1
          Lykases1 13 November 2022 09: 31
          -1
          I have a hunch that the cannons of the Shell are for a helicopter, maybe a Tomahawk. Also watched this video. He does not take small targets. Most likely, shells with remote detonation are needed. But they still need to be invented, and then produced in the right quantities. Yes, and the missiles of the Shell, in my opinion, are less effective than those of the Thor. And the base on KAMAZ is unstable. Why it is promoted so much is not clear.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 13 November 2022 09: 35
            +4
            Mukharovsky, I don’t know where he got these figures from, wrote that the Shell in Syria did not prove itself very well. Only 18% of downed targets, Buk showed excellently up to 80% of destroyed targets. But the cost of the rocket and the UAV assembled on the knee cannot be compared.
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik 13 November 2022 12: 39
          -1
          Quote: YOUR
          There is a film on the TV program "Military Acceptance", a film about the ZRPK "Pantsir". They were never able to shoot down a plane target from cannons. Although the operator of the target put it under fire in every possible way. They destroyed it with a rocket.

          In my opinion, it was the other way around, and I remember we have already discussed this. Maybe not with you, but the fact is that "Shell" almost failed.
    3. Fisherman
      Fisherman 13 November 2022 08: 44
      +5
      The question is really stupid. A developed enterprise should produce 10 shahid mopeds for at least a year. And then rest against the only effective system from such drones - against the Shell, which is ALREADY in the army.
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 13 November 2022 08: 50
        +2
        There is no effective system now. How many shells are needed to protect one large object? Several pieces. And they, you correctly noted, are necessary in the troops.
        1. novel66
          novel66 13 November 2022 10: 06
          -1
          Yes, and zsu57-2, for sure there is still somewhere, but it needs to be finalized
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 13 November 2022 08: 51
      +2
      Corona without a virus - I have a dumber question - why, instead of reprofiling in Russia, are enterprises of the Russian military-industrial complex being massively liquidated? infrastructure! When will the Kremlin decide to fight for real, when all selfish interests will be protected, and when our 300-odd billion dollars will simply be completely taken away from us?
    5. Or me
      Or me 13 November 2022 08: 56
      +2

      Corona without virus (Retired)
      Today, 08: 38
      NEW
      -3
      I have a stupid question - if the Ukrainians still release their announced shahid moped in commercial quantities by NG, is the Russian air defense ready to repel the simultaneous arrival of at least 10000 of these pieces?
      They still need to be made.
    6. vitvit123
      vitvit123 13 November 2022 09: 29
      -2
      I rarely agree with you, but I also tell everyone that this game can be played in two..
    7. Hey
      Hey 13 November 2022 09: 32
      +4
      is Russian air defense ready to repel the simultaneous arrival of at least 10000 of these pieces?

      Firstly, can the Ukrainian industry produce such a number of drones.
      I think it can. They have at least three directional giants. Yuzhmash, MotorSich, Antonov.
      Secondly - Can Russia prevent their production?
      I think maybe BUT since she is currently sleeping or chewing a certain substance, and according to these enterprises, a minimum has arrived, which allows not only to restore ordinary aircraft, but also to produce the required number of drones.
      My proposal for the destruction of these objects is to strike at them with decommissioned missiles of the Strategic Missile Forces, only with TNT filling.
      Thirdly, will Russian intelligence be able to open the places of preliminary storage and concentration in the places of launches of these devices? If reconnaissance works as before the start of the NMD, then a breakthrough of our air defense is guaranteed.
      Fourthly, is our state capable of strengthening air defense with anti-drone units. According to the type of VNOS and air units on piston aircraft and with fighter drones. However, this topic has already been discussed on the site.
      All this can be done, if there is a desire.
      Conclusion: There will be a desire and will to win - a breakthrough of 10000 drones is not possible, otherwise our cities, as now, will be bombarded.
      1. Architect
        Architect 13 November 2022 09: 45
        0
        Firstly, can the Ukrainian industry produce such a number of drones.
        I think it can. They have at least three directional giants. Yuzhmash, MotorSich, Antonov.

        Of course it can. If they have learned how to produce missiles for Himars, even from imported components, then what is Shahid's prototype for them?
      2. KCA
        KCA 13 November 2022 10: 15
        -1
        The launch of an ICBM will immediately detect the US early warning system and they will be very tense and can immediately launch their ICBMs, but not at all with TNT or RDX
        1. Hey
          Hey 13 November 2022 10: 58
          0
          The launch of an ICBM will immediately detect the US early warning system and they will be very tense and can immediately launch their ICBMs, but not at all with TNT or RDX

          We need the destruction of enterprises and not a nuclear war, so we can notify both NATO and Ukraine in advance about the launches of these missiles, so that the latter would withdraw civilians from the territories of enterprises. Even use the media and the Internet.
          1. KCA
            KCA 13 November 2022 14: 43
            0
            Will the Americans immediately believe and will not raise a howl? Or in general, they will close up their provocation with nuclear weapons or spent nuclear fuel
      3. solar
        solar 13 November 2022 12: 18
        0
        My proposal for the destruction of these objects is to strike at them with decommissioned missiles of the Strategic Missile Forces

        Yes, and the Third World War is not far away, if strategic missiles are fired en masse. Americans don't have nerves of steel either.
    8. mitroha
      mitroha 13 November 2022 09: 48
      +2
      Quote: Crown without virus
      I have a stupid question - if the Ukrainians still release their announced shahid moped in commercial quantities by NG, is the Russian air defense ready to repel the simultaneous arrival of at least 10000 of these pieces?

      And why gouge 10000 drones that have not yet been released, when it’s easier to gouge a production plant?
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 13 November 2022 10: 15
        -1
        Here we understand this, in the General Staff this is a problem
        1. Vadim Voroshilov
          Vadim Voroshilov 13 November 2022 10: 30
          +2
          already the Garant is not pulling ... since March, a continuous drain ... the more they retreat, the more refugees .... so soon half of Russia will become refugees
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik 13 November 2022 12: 40
          -1
          Quote: vitvit123
          Here we understand this, in the General Staff this is a problem

          Not the General Staff, rather in the Kremlin, where money rules the show.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 13 November 2022 13: 34
            +1
            And I agree and no .. if everything is so simple, money rules the show, then how did we start the war, because it was clear to the fool that we would not see money ..
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 13 November 2022 14: 09
              0
              Quote: vitvit123
              And I agree and no .. if everything is so simple, money rules the show, then how did we start the war, because it was clear to the fool that we would not see money ..

              There was a plan "A", fast and victorious, of course with an agreement, but they threw it away, but there was no plan "B", because I was used to freebies and swoops. I hoped to correct the zero ratings (real ones) and distract from the economic situation in the country, but it did not grow together. Probably now he bites his lips and tears his hair in a certain place. Now, according to their logic, it is necessary to get out and save their capital, so the surrender of everything that is possible has gone. I think soon our brains will boil in general. Although much more. If everything went according to plan "A", then the capital would for the most part remain intact, the winners would not be judged by them (the West), it would simply be scary, but as always there was not enough courage, by their very nature they are petty swindlers who seized on a freebie.
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 13 November 2022 14: 15
                0
                There is no answer to my question in your comment .., because if plan A had worked together, then the money would have been taken away from the Kremlin anyway .. therefore, I don’t see the logic in your comment so far, sorry ..
                These are not logical remarks, about the fact that now the loot does not allow to fight, but it did start a war, because there was a plan A, but there was no plan B .. where is the answer to the question: why did they start then, if the loot rules everything?
                1. lis-ik
                  lis-ik 13 November 2022 14: 27
                  0
                  Quote: vitvit123
                  These are not logical remarks, about the fact that now the loot does not allow to fight, but it did start a war, because there was a plan A, but there was no plan B .. where is the answer to the question: why did they start then, if the loot rules everything?

                  That's how he answered
                  If everything went according to plan "A", then the capital would for the most part remain intact, the winners would not be judged by them (the West), it would simply be scary, but as always there was not enough courage, because in their essence they are petty swindlers who seized on a freebie.
                  1. vitvit123
                    vitvit123 13 November 2022 14: 32
                    +1
                    No, I don’t absolutely disagree .. if everything went according to plan A, then why did you get the idea that the capital would remain intact? What winners? If the winners of Ukraine? How else would they judge and exactly such sanctions would be introduced! Yeah, we took ukra insolently, and the West just sits and thinks: well, these are the winners, we will not judge them! This is if you won the Western countries, then yes you would be the winner, but with a cover, this is just another battle ..
                    1. lis-ik
                      lis-ik 13 November 2022 14: 53
                      +1
                      After Putin's first statements, they really became frightened, but then concessions and sanctions went on increasing. If there were no gestures and there would be a well-thought-out plan of the operation, then they would roam and everything would go on as before, your shirt is closer to the body. We would leave for the sake of form those that were from the fourteenth and would add a few new ones that are easily bypassed. Haven't you noticed that after each empty threat, they pressed more and more.
                      1. vitvit123
                        vitvit123 13 November 2022 15: 12
                        0
                        After each empty threat, maybe they pressed more, I even agree, it seems to be so, but I don’t agree with the fact that everything would remain practically the same if they suddenly won snoring .. they would show us that we can continue do what we want, why would such love?. No, I do not agree that there would be minimal sanctions ...
                        and in general, I will already skip to another topic, if we return to the beginning of the war, today we can already say that in the way that was planned for us, with our training and weapons, of course, we could not win according to plan A, but these are thoughts in hindsight, with which we are all smart .. and even now, we will probably be able to win if we conduct a tough, even brutal war somewhere. There is no other way to win this war
                      2. lis-ik
                        lis-ik 13 November 2022 15: 20
                        0
                        Quote: vitvit123
                        , but these are thoughts in hindsight, with which we are all smart .. and even now, we can probably win if we conduct a tough, even brutal war somewhere. There is no other way to win this war

                        So from the very beginning, many, including myself, wrote here that half measures and curtseys won’t win the war, but apparently in the Kremlin they either knew exactly what our parade army was worth or money decides everything. Well, there are simply no other options. The question is different. Where did everything go, even if it was old, Meehan repeatedly posted photos from the West 80 exercises, where is that armada? I understand that a lot went to the countries of the former union, but the Russian Federation has two-thirds left. Where is it?
                      3. vitvit123
                        vitvit123 13 November 2022 15: 33
                        +1
                        Yes, there is no logic, if the Kremlin knew that this would be the case, because the army is front, they are ready for anything for money, etc. , could not start this war, unless there are schizophrenics, and they are not schizophrenics ..
                        Well, you remembered about the West 80 .., stunned 42 years have passed .. and what was there in the West 80, are there many tanks? Shells? to the people? This is just a picture, and they remembered when the grandmother was in the girls ..
                        Prigozhin even said that he had a much greater consumption of shells than Stalingrad! And this is bitterly no more than one direction .. and there the front is very long, all the shells must have been shot, there is already a shortage somewhere, and the enemy is hitting our warehouses in the rear .. in general, what was there to watch in the 80th year?
                        My opinion is that now it is urgent to transfer the economy to a military footing, we first need to mobilize the economy and, in parallel, mobilize for the army. Mobilization into the army must first be carried out in a limited number, gradually, as the industry begins to produce more military products, it is necessary to increase conscripts .. but this is a very difficult option, but I probably don’t see another ..
                        If only they turn off electricity throughout the country, maybe then it is still possible to win with limited resources, although I already think that it will not work ..
                      4. lis-ik
                        lis-ik 13 November 2022 15: 45
                        0
                        Quote: vitvit123
                        My opinion is that now it is urgent to transfer the economy to a military footing

                        What economy? Oil or gas? Everything that can be optimized for us has long been optimized, and what is not, they go bankrupt, it is not clear how Uralvagonzavod has avoided this so far. About the resources of the USSR, of course, I understand that a lot of time has passed. But huge warehouses with artillery shells and other equipment, where did everything go? Has it expired? It is unlikely that they sold what they could to an underdeveloped country. There, this will do. Everything has evaporated somewhere, in cities with a population of over a million, bomb shelters have been given over to service stations and warehouses. Putin bankrupted more enterprises than Yeltsin in the 90s, this is probably a clear task, they couldn’t even get the stolen stuff to work properly. Instead of releasing finished products with added value, they stupidly traded in raw materials. Why invest? They are temporary workers.
                      5. vitvit123
                        vitvit123 13 November 2022 16: 04
                        0
                        Well, this is already, as always, everything is generalized, partially taken from the present, I don’t see the specifics ..
                        I like to include a fool in such cases, and maybe really ..
                        What economy? Well, for example, nuclear! World leader! The fact that you are talking about oil, gas .. my opinion does not say anything, all this garbage, there are countries that are also exporters of resources, but also produce high-tech products in parallel .. the same America ...
                        The bankruptcy of the military-industrial complex .. to some extent you are right, even to a greater extent, the military-industrial complex did not produce high-tech products, and no one bought old products, we did not have a war, so many military-industrial complex enterprises died down ..
                        Regarding the sale of shells .. who needs this junk? This junk is produced and produced by many countries of the former socialist camp ..
                        Some of them were probably lost during fires in warehouses, some were sold, and the main one was shot in 8.5 months ..
                        As for the bankruptcy of enterprises, I'm not exactly sure, because. just not sure. There, when he stepped in for another 4 years, under the supervision of Misha, 2% of the rules .. and in general, this economy is a very difficult thing, the more you try to learn, the more incomprehensible .. I don’t like generalized statements, because there will always be some truth in them and no one will say how much% this share of truth is great ... that's why I don't like this populism .. something like that ..
                      6. lis-ik
                        lis-ik 13 November 2022 16: 35
                        0
                        And I agree on something, but this does not detract from the current crisis, both in leadership and in production (there is practically nothing to mobilize), the situation is so crappy that there is simply no way out without decisions that are unpopular for the pvtin clans.
                      7. vitvit123
                        vitvit123 13 November 2022 17: 00
                        +1
                        Well, how is there nothing to mobilize? For example: the same Motovilikha plant, which I think you are focusing on? .. we have a lot of enterprises working for the defense industry! Of course, they didn’t mobilize much, but with this state of affairs, they need to be caught up even more and there are a lot of such enterprises around the country .. the same shipyards that produce ships, factories that produce aircraft, helicopter engines, and Christmas trees are the sticks of everyone, all subcontractors , that's a lot of factories. Introduce military administration, responsibility under the laws of war, etc.
                        What is the whole problem? The fact that no one is responsible for the jambs! Impunity breeds lawlessness! Here it is necessary to remove impunity and things will go smoothly .. but of course, this is a bunch of unpopular solutions! But otherwise it can be very painful ...
                    2. Ivan Ivanov
                      Ivan Ivanov 13 November 2022 15: 27
                      0
                      Yes, it looks more like a problem of two chairs, when it seems that you want to keep your dignity and dependencies / connections / weaknesses can not be canceled.
                      1. vitvit123
                        vitvit123 13 November 2022 15: 38
                        0
                        Well, here again (sorry for the corrosiveness), the second follows from the first. There will be dignity, there will be connections, etc. so sit on the first chair and the second one will remain under you
                      2. Ivan Ivanov
                        Ivan Ivanov 13 November 2022 15: 44
                        0
                        The trouble is that a significant part of the current relationships contradict dignity, for 30 years they were often wound up according to a different principle.
                      3. vitvit123
                        vitvit123 13 November 2022 15: 48
                        0
                        Then I got completely confused..
                        Admin write what you want
    9. Hagen
      Hagen 13 November 2022 10: 00
      +1
      Quote: Corona without virus
      if Ukrainians still release their announced shahid-moped in commercial quantities by NG, is Russia’s air defense ready

      In fact, the question is not idle. And it can be divided into two parts: 1. What can we (we will be able to quickly manufacture and supply to the troops) oppose such equipment if it appears in the Armed Forces of Ukraine (even if not Ukrainian-made, but purchased by the United States from a third country)? 2. What will we do if the antidote against this technique appears first in the United States, read from the Armed Forces of Ukraine? And the fact that this will happen someday, and soon enough, I have no doubt ...
  3. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 13 November 2022 08: 41
    +2
    "We are just as determined to help Ukraine protect critical infrastructure and, of course, replace and repair what is damaged"
    Well, of course they will help! With a long-range vision that everything will pass into the hands of the United States! Although they still warm their hands there quite well!
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 13 November 2022 08: 47
      0
      If you look at the exchanges and the articles under them, Western experts, Americans without bombs, it is better to carry out de-industrialization in Europe without enduring energy.
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            1. Ivan Ivanov
              Ivan Ivanov 13 November 2022 15: 35
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              Have you forgotten how the enemies of the USSR themselves, who seized the RSFSR, did with the Chechen separatists and the territory of Chechnya? Or, as always with the enemies of the USSR, "Is this different?"
              Provocative question. This is in fact completely different, Chechnya at that moment was a terrorist entity, confirmed more than once. Kuev of 2014 was captured by the Bandera junta, it was she who became a separatist / violator of the constitution, Yanukovych had every right, constitutional and international, to eliminate them, and we - to help him in this. Instead, the junta was recognized, the republics were called "self-proclaimed" for 8 years, in order to maintain partnership with partners who, naturally, not for the first time, cheated us.
        2. your vsr 66-67
          your vsr 66-67 13 November 2022 10: 14
          +3
          "enemies of the USSR who captured the RSFSR ...."
          Tatra, I myself am from the USSR, and I love and respect that country very much! But it looks like you have the phrase I highlighted, this is your favorite dish! You know how tired it is to read the same dish in your comments!
          enemies of the USSR who captured the RSFSR,
          Change the menu!!!
        3. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 13 November 2022 11: 02
          +2
          There, the same terrorist separatists as the Chechen ones, only they occupied almost the entire territory of the former Ukraine in 2014, creating a terrorist pseudo-state near Russia for terror and fascism.
          It's as if Chechen terrorists seized the Kremlin, power structures and most of the Russian Federation physically.
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 13 November 2022 09: 05
      +6
      Dear, you would at least write something new. Otherwise, everything is like a blueprint for you. This is not serious, at least
      1. tatra
        tatra 13 November 2022 09: 16
        -11
        First, let the enemies of the USSR lead by example. Otherwise, all 30 years after you captured the RSFSR, you have the same thing. And your current propaganda against the Ukrainian enemies of the USSR is almost 100% the same as your propaganda against the Soviet people.
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 13 November 2022 09: 26
          +3
          I captured the RSFSR??!! Are you out of your mind? I was 27 years old then, and I worked as an electrician for instrumentation and automation in the energy sector .. Take a sedative ..
          1. tatra
            tatra 13 November 2022 09: 43
            -10
            HERE is the mentality of the enemies of the USSR who captured the RSFSR. For 30 years they have categorically refused to take responsibility for their seizure of the RSFSR, and for everything that they have done with Russia and the Russian people, but at the same time they believe that they have every right to do whatever they want to do with Russia and its people, including plunging them into this unnecessary to Russia and the people "small victorious ...". which has already caused huge economic, human, reputational damage to Russia and the people, and then everything will only get worse. But they don't care about it.
            And when they are all accused together, they cowardly whine "but I have nothing to do with it ...". They do not have WE, there is only "but I, me, I have ..."
      2. mitroha
        mitroha 13 November 2022 09: 51
        +3
        Quote: dmi.pris
        It's not serious, at least.

        No, this is just a very serious reason to see a doctor. Especially a woman.
        1. Lykases1
          Lykases1 13 November 2022 10: 27
          0
          And could you answer a few questions? Perhaps I will understand the current situation more clearly. Let's fantasize. The government of Sakhalin decided to secede from Russia and subsequently join Japan. A referendum was announced next weekend. How should Russia react? I suspect that troops will be sent to this region. Further - a referendum was held, a decision was made. The question is - is everything done from the point of view of international law? And what, so it was possible? Just took the region and left the squad? And Japan took and landed troops to protect its new territory. AND? Do you see any parallels in this case? Well, separately the questions that concern me - can, from the point of view of international law, a part of a state secede from the country and join another country? Can the state prevent this, including by military means? Are there similar examples in world history and the history of Russia? Is there a feeling that the saying is valid - "What is supposed to Jupiter is not supposed to be a bull."
          1. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 13 November 2022 11: 11
            -4
            Are there similar examples in world history and the history of Russia?

            Of course I have good
            Chechnya wanted to secede from the Russian Federation - they returned it back good
            Crimea and 4 new subjects wanted to return to the Russian Federation - returned hi
            It's just a matter of political will
            Well, from the point of view of international law, SIMULTANEOUSLY both the right of nations to self-determination and the inviolability of the borders of states are recognized =) So here it is convenient for anyone to use which clause of the UN Charter, he does so bully
            1. Lykases1
              Lykases1 13 November 2022 11: 52
              0
              At the expense of self-determination, perhaps a little different. Do the people have a right? Yes. Autonomous region within the state. I doubt that the UN charter encourages the collapse of states. And you gave sound examples. But then it turns out that Russia can restore control over the rebellious territory by military means, but Ukraine cannot. Weird. It turns out the right of the strong. Well, or, if you look at the course of the special operation, relatively strong. Otherwise, how would you not have to grab a machine gun and protect the Voronezh, Kursk and Belgorod regions from self-determination. On the one hand, it seems funny, but if you think about it, it’s kind of not.
              1. Virus-free crown
                Virus-free crown 13 November 2022 15: 58
                0
                You better read the UN Charter yourself, otherwise if I cite a dozen articles that the CBO does not comply with, consider that I will sit for life))))))))))))))
    3. Mikhail Sidorov
      Mikhail Sidorov 13 November 2022 09: 05
      +6
      The Russian enemies of the USSR proved that they are fighting not with some Nazis, but with the entire Ukrainian people.

      But what are you. You support the Nazis. Wow, but I often spanked you pluses. request
      1. tatra
        tatra 13 November 2022 09: 21
        -14
        Ha, here is the fierce hatred of the enemies of the USSR, who seized the RSFSR, for dissidents. If they are against them, and what they have done, then they immediately label them "enemies of the people" and "agents of enemy states."
        You and your Yeltsin-Putin government for the whole 8 months have not been able to explain to the Russian people WHY you arranged all this, and your "philanthropy" towards the inhabitants of Donbass is just as deceitful and hypocritical as in your slander on the Soviet people.
        1. Arslan17
          Arslan17 13 November 2022 09: 49
          +2
          Under Yeltsin, American proteges were in power, as they are now in Ukraine. And they provoked conflicts in these regions. As soon as the government changed, the ideological support for conflicts disappeared. Because these people were just opposed to the imposed liberal values.
          It is also clear that under Yeltsin Russia was being groomed as a tyrant against China. As now Ukraine against Russia.
    4. Roman Efremov
      Roman Efremov 13 November 2022 09: 23
      +5
      We are at war not with the Ukrainian people, but with the STATE OF UKRAINE. Which must be destroyed.
      1. tatra
        tatra 13 November 2022 09: 27
        -10
        That's how something 80 years ago decided that the State of the USSR should be destroyed.
        1. Roman Efremov
          Roman Efremov 13 November 2022 10: 54
          +2
          Your messages are surprisingly meaningless and ridiculous. You are either a "tsipsota" (recently learned such a wonderful term), or a sick person. In any case, I will end the discussion with you.
    5. vitvit123
      vitvit123 13 November 2022 09: 32
      +1
      Putin wants to freeze the people're coming out..and why not freeze something? If I had dreamed, then I would have bombed, probably at key facilities, and not playing spillikins! Therefore, this statement is debatable..
    6. lis-ik
      lis-ik 13 November 2022 14: 22
      +1
      Quote: tatra
      The Russian enemies of the USSR proved that they are fighting not with some Nazis, but with the entire Ukrainian people.

      Irin, well enough already, you are like the ever-memorable Novodvorskaya, but on the contrary, I treat the USSR with warmth and respect, but you are stuck. Yes, the government in the Russian Federation is now treacherous and corrupt, but there is no Ukrainian people in your understanding. There is an anti-Russian population, for the most part, and if the authorities of the Russian Federation did not chew snot and twist their asses in front of the West, then the "Ukrainian people" would have restored Donbass long ago.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 November 2022 08: 46
    +1
    Meanwhile, the United States announced the constant attacks of Russian troops on the energy system of Ukraine carry "huge risks", therefore Americans will help Kyiv to protect critical infrastructure from strikes.
    It remains to find out how "help".
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 13 November 2022 08: 57
      +1
      They will probably buy Chinese diesel generators, you need to watch the sales volume? bully
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 13 November 2022 09: 14
        +1

        tralflot1832 (Andrey S.)
        Today, 08: 57
        NEW

        +1
        They will probably buy Chinese diesel generators, you need to watch the sales volume?
        Apparently, therefore, the canoe very much wants to meet Comrade. Si on G 20 wink
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 13 November 2022 09: 25
          0
          Baida: Hello Mr. Mao Tse Tung! wassat
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 13 November 2022 09: 32
        +4
        A diesel generator is good, but it does not work by itself, and how many solariums they will need cannot be said in a fairy tale or described with a pen. wassat
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 13 November 2022 09: 41
          +2
          Let them add a pedal drive. bully
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 13 November 2022 09: 56
            +1
            And what, this is an idea, at the same time they will warm up. laughing
  6. Fred Dozer
    Fred Dozer 13 November 2022 09: 04
    +2
    When Hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico in September 2017, it destroyed the island's power grid. It took the island 328 days, or roughly 11 months, to restore power to all customers who lost power during the hurricane, which became the longest power outage in US history.
    1. Chief Officer Lom
      Chief Officer Lom 13 November 2022 09: 16
      0
      Well, we still can’t compare with a hurricane - it completely swept away all the overhead wires. This can be repeated only by carpet nuclear bombardment. But it will not be possible to quickly restore dozens of large Soviet-built power facilities after their explosions, it needs to be restored practically on the spot. It is easier for them to rebuild their own, American ones.
  7. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 13 November 2022 09: 09
    -4
    I am answering my own post about the miserable 10.000 shahid mopeds hi
    Here we stupidly buy 100.000 hang gliders around the world (they are on sale for sure), 100.000 control units for UAVs from aliexpress, we do shamanism with pairing for a week, a program of autonomous flight is being finalized by first-year students for a couple of weeks, a week of tests - and voila - 100.000 kamikaze are ready, it remains to buy car trailers, and "forward into battle and with a song")) Instead of a pilot, we hang 100 kg of plastid and "smile and wave"
    That's what we would want - a long time ago we would have done this, but nobody needs this nafik in our country !!! am request
  8. JonnyT
    JonnyT 13 November 2022 09: 11
    +1
    If the Russian authorities want to force the Ukrainian regime into negotiations, then it is necessary to inflict a crushing military defeat on the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other military formations of Ukraine.

    Energy strikes have no effect, mostly civilians suffer from them, which only causes more anger.

    Therefore, only boilers and the physical destruction of the armed formations of the Nazi regime will allow Ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table.

    Z.Y. It is possible to decipher the cradle of Ukrainian nationalism - the west of the country, all the same, the Poles will take it away. And redirect logistics routes through Belarus - there is a sane leadership and a single economic space
    So when the Abramovichs come to Vova to ask not to hit the Westerners, he must choose a side - either he is with the people and the army of Russia, or with usurers and fascists.
    1. iouris
      iouris 13 November 2022 09: 20
      0
      Quote: JonnyT
      it is necessary to inflict a crushing military defeat for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other military formations of Ukraine

      It is necessary to inflict a crushing defeat on the USA, Britain and so on.
      And forget about Ukraine. She's gone.
    2. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 13 November 2022 09: 42
      -2
      IMHO, he and others like him have long chosen a side.
  9. iouris
    iouris 13 November 2022 09: 18
    0
    And when the Kakhovskaya HPP is blown up, what will be the answer?
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 13 November 2022 09: 43
      -1
      Another gesture of goodwill, you have to understand.
  10. vb158
    vb158 13 November 2022 09: 27
    +1
    mě by zajímalo kolik má vojáků rusko a kolik ukrajina a kolik tam je z nato vojáků a co špionážní stroje nad ruskem a jeho hranici v pásmu mezinárodním
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 November 2022 09: 29
    +1
    So they need banderve. And striped, what about striped? Stripes love to promise.
  12. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 13 November 2022 09: 30
    +3
    well .. let the mattress covers be restored .. because Russia no longer has mopeds with missiles)
  13. Arkady007
    Arkady007 13 November 2022 09: 41
    0
    When did the Americans do what for free? Never and no one.
  14. Alex 2019
    Alex 2019 13 November 2022 09: 43
    -3
    Representatives of the elites and offshore aristocracy, after retreating from Kherson, are actively trying to promote the idea of ​​a separate peace instead of bringing the NWO to the end. These rats, one after another, are running in all directions, betraying Putin. In this difficult time, all our people need to be loyal to the President and stand up for the NVO and Russia to the end
    After the lights go out for Bandera, it is vital to deprive the West of arms supplies. I think the command understands this no worse than ordinary people, and the president would like to wish the courage to make decisions and be closer to the people, this will bring our victory closer and save the lives of the military doing their duty
    1. Vadim Voroshilov
      Vadim Voroshilov 13 November 2022 10: 35
      +1
      Do you know the Guarantor's plans? ... something about denazification, de-Sovietization, demilitarization is not heard ... as well as about nuclear strikes ..... since March, throws from Ze to negotiators from Russia .... what will they merge next - Crimea?
      So far, it is clear that for Kherson, Roman Abramovich returned $ 6 billion from sanctions .... We are changing the lives of new Russian citizens for dollars to the oligarch
  15. Dronza
    Dronza 13 November 2022 10: 01
    -1
    In no case do not stop with blows - every day, on all life-supporting nodes. It would be nice to add more transport hubs, railway crossings across the border. It would have been a song. And then the people are perplexed - why are we still not bombing?
  16. Crete 25
    Crete 25 13 November 2022 10: 59
    -1
    Since they don’t reveal anything, it means they didn’t hit anything important. The fork is no longer enough.
  17. blackcat
    blackcat 13 November 2022 11: 04
    0
    Quote: MUD
    is Russian air defense ready to repel the simultaneous arrival of at least 10000 of these pieces?

    Firstly, can the Ukrainian industry produce such a number of drones.
    I think it can. They have at least three directional giants. Yuzhmash, MotorSich, Antonov.
    Secondly - Can Russia prevent their production?
    I think maybe BUT since she is currently sleeping or chewing a certain substance, and according to these enterprises, a minimum has arrived, which allows not only to restore ordinary aircraft, but also to produce the required number of drones.
    My proposal for the destruction of these objects is to strike at them with decommissioned missiles of the Strategic Missile Forces, only with TNT filling.
    Thirdly, will Russian intelligence be able to open the places of preliminary storage and concentration in the places of launches of these devices? If reconnaissance works as before the start of the NMD, then a breakthrough of our air defense is guaranteed.
    Fourthly, is our state capable of strengthening air defense with anti-drone units. According to the type of VNOS and air units on piston aircraft and with fighter drones. However, this topic has already been discussed on the site.
    All this can be done, if there is a desire.
    Conclusion: There will be a desire and will to win - a breakthrough of 10000 drones is not possible, otherwise our cities, as now, will be bombarded.

    The decommissioned missiles of the Strategic Missile Forces are cool, but with a fright they can fly from the Americans, the system will record the start and then understand what kind of filling they have, nuclear or TNT am
  18. Lewww
    Lewww 13 November 2022 11: 35
    0
    Quote: Alex 2019
    After the lights go out for Bandera, it is vital to deprive the West of arms supplies.
    This should have been done from the very beginning of the operation, but alas, it is still not being done.
    Railway the bridges are intact, the trains run, the ports are functioning, the weapons are still coming, the gas continues to flow through Ukraine, and she uses it.
    This raises a lot of awkward questions...
    And the destruction of tepeshki mainly affects the civilian population, increasing the intensity of hostility and further expanding the split between Russians and Ukrainians, increasing the fierce hatred of Ukrainians for everything Russian. Moreover, in addition, it increases the sympathy of the societies of foreign states for the "unfortunate" Ukraine and, as a result, justifies the need to continue helping it, including the supply of weapons.
    These executions of tepeshki are another window dressing of the Moscow Region for domestic inhabitants: when there is no concrete result, we will report on the process
    1. the same doctor
      the same doctor 15 November 2022 08: 23
      0
      Absolutely right. We must destroy critical targets. The same transformer substations at power plants. And why destroy small change at distribution grids, if the main power plant stops?
      If you spoil the little things, then it is better to drop the power line supports.
  19. iouris
    iouris 13 November 2022 12: 20
    +1
    Does the Kremenchug refinery work? Where is the oilman from?
    1. the same doctor
      the same doctor 15 November 2022 08: 26
      0
      According to the data published in the KP, during the time of the NWO we supplied Europe with 300 billion more goods than we received from them. Why shouldn't they fight? It is possible to share some of these free resources with Ukrainians. And then they will confiscate this proceeds stored from them.
  20. Rage66
    Rage66 13 November 2022 15: 30
    +1
    And why do they not write anything about how the Wagnerites took out a defector from Kyiv?
  21. oleg_627
    oleg_627 13 November 2022 15: 57
    +1
    If our troops withdrew from Kherson, then the most correct thing is to destroy the Kyiv and Dnieper hydroelectric power stations. Let it drown everything that is possible. And there will definitely not be electricity. withdraw troops from Kherson. If we are not fired upon, then this will be a betrayal
  22. Vladimir100
    Vladimir100 13 November 2022 17: 13
    +2
    Load missile factories at 300% and build 20 more new ones, including those in the LPR and DPR, and beat beat and beat turning Hochland into a wild field.
    And no Americans will help them because the production of missiles is two orders of magnitude cheaper than the elimination of the consequences of their use.
    And also to drown out the fuck all their vaunted guidance systems by imposing on them the traditional war of the 20th century with artillery shelling in the squares and hand-to-hand fights and see how long they last.
    The voice of America and freedom have been successfully jammed for decades, is it really impossible to drown out the guidance systems of hymers and other crap.
    What do radio operators do?
  23. 7 poplar
    7 poplar 13 November 2022 23: 00
    +1
    you have to keep bombing! every day and throughout the infrastructure!
  24. cat-begemot
    cat-begemot 14 November 2022 04: 35
    +1
    If the Americans promise to help and restore the 404 energy system, then it’s a pity, it seems like no light will be seen from the economic hole anyway.
  25. the same doctor
    the same doctor 15 November 2022 08: 19
    0
    Weak blows only train and tone up the Bandera regime.