Two World War II planes collided in the air during an air show in the United States

In the United States, two World War II aircraft collided during an air show in Dallas, Texas. According to the American press, the crews had no chance to survive.

The annual "Wings Over Dallas" airshow, run by a local organization dedicated to the preservation and restoration of World War II aircraft, ended in tragedy. During the showing of the episode dedicated to the events of WWII, two planes collided in the air, we are talking about a bomber and a fighter. The event was held at the Dallas Executive Airport.

According to the Federal Office of Civil aviation United States, a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress bomber and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra fighter collided in the air. Judging by the video, the fighter pilot wanted to fly in front of the nose of the bomber, but miscalculated and a collision occurred. Both planes broke up while still in the air, debris fell to the ground. According to emergency services, both crew died, no one survived.

(...) the two planes collided around 13:30 at Dallas Executive Airport on the 5300 block of Challenger Drive, off Highway 67 in Red Bird. According to WFAA-TV (Channel 8), a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress was involved in the crash.

the Dallas Fire and Rescue Service said in a statement.

According to preliminary data, there was a crew of five people on board the bomber, but this is inaccurate, there was only one in the fighter. A large fire started at the crash site, which was promptly extinguished. Whether there were casualties on the ground as a result of the incident is not reported.

The B-17 Flying Fortress is an American four-engine heavy bomber produced since 1934. Participated in the battles of World War II, today there are only a few copies of this bomber left in the world.

Comments

[tralflot1832]

World War II continues to gather its harvest, where did the "driver" of the fighter buy his rights?

[Bingo]

Quote: tralflot1832

World War 2 continues to gather its harvest

The Germans had one, 301 victories on the account ...

After the war, Barkhorn joined the West German Air Force. In the mid-60s, while testing a new VTOL fighter, Barkhorn's plane lost control and crashed to the ground. When the wounded Gerhard was pulled out of the wrecked car, he muttered only one phrase through his strength: "302nd!" Barkhorn retired in 1976.

[tralflot1832]

Heard about this, but it turns out that he is still that joker!

[tralflot1832]

The fate of Buckhorn is interesting, he was nevertheless finished off by love for speed. The question is, just who was driving. After an accident in the car, his wife died instantly, he died after 5 days.

[novel66]

Either he or Hartman, it seems that both were there, but their accounts are still ....

[tralflot1832]

The search movement is well developed in the Kuban. They attribute too much to themselves. Yes, and in the Kuban appeared in the regiment of Kozhedub "Kuban whatnot".

[NAF-NAF]

Not Kozhedub, but Pokryshkin.
And I completely agree about the German postscripts.

[novel66]

That's why we had to change planes! But stubborn bastards

[tralflot1832]

We must look for this episode in the Kuban, I don’t remember which German had it in his memoirs. 7 times they made holes in the plane, he reached the airfield and took the plane for the next flight from another pilot.

[novel66]

and Hartman escaped, pretending to be wounded, from the truck, he was also shot down more than once

[tralflot1832]

We will correct according to the remarks, "Kuban whatnot" regiment Pokryshkin A.I.

[novel66]

really ... we confuse the pedals! cheer up now!!!

[tralflot1832]

Back in 1968, as a child, I was lucky enough to pick mushrooms as a child, to perform natural needs on crosses on the wings of a downed Yu 88, in the area of ​​Drinking Lake in Murmansk. By the way, it was well preserved. Most likely it was shot down in winter.

[novel66]

I had to break off something!

[tralflot1832]

Now I’m sorry, there was something to break off. Under the USSR, they didn’t stand on ceremony with the wreckage. True, I once saw an aircraft cannon in metal at school. The KGB overwrought the whole class, after that.

[novel66]

I had an AM-23 under my bed in the officer’s hostel, I wanted to bring a souvenir home ... it didn’t grow together

[NAF-NAF]

Quote: tralflot1832

We will correct according to the remarks, "Kuban whatnot" regiment Pokryshkin A.I.

Well, if you really correct it, then Captain Pokryshkin in the spring of 1943 was only a commander in the 16th GvIAP (Isaev's regiment)

[Silver99]

The second plane intentionally went to ram

[mitroha]

As an option, something happened to the pilot. Seizure or similar
Not the full video, it is not clear whether he changed the direction of the flight.

[Ros 56]

He told you that, well, stop writing crap.

[Monster_Fat]

In the United States, authentic aircraft crashes constantly occur during various "historical" Avishaws. The reasons are always the same - either the failure of the old technology or the recklessness of the pilots.

[svp67]

Quote: tralflot1832

2 world continues to gather its harvest,

No, not her. Harvest recklessness and disregard for the rules

Quote: tralflot1832

fighter jet driver where did he buy his license?

In the same place as our pilot, who seems to have rammed the Maxim Gorky plane, only there were much more victims

[Piramidon]

Quote: svp67

In the same place as our pilot, who seems to have rammed the Maxim Gorky plane, only there were much more victims

Showing off does not lead to anything good, as in this case.

[Alex92]

It was different with Gorky, it looked like an accident there, although the NKVD attributed everything to the pilot "I" (I already forgot his last name), they flew in parallel, and here, judging by the video, the pilot perfectly saw the plane in front of him

[svp67]

Quote: Alex92

, they flew in parallel,

Yes, really, only the pilot then crashed into the wing of the Gorky, on the descending "Nesterov loop"

[dauria]

2 world continues to gather its harvest,

No. Harvest is collected by the phrase "Look how I can"

[dmi.pris1]

Why are there five people at the air show in the cockpit of the "flying fortress"?

[mmaxx]

People wanted to ride a retro bomber. Yes, and the bomber needs to be fed. Still, the money is not superfluous. No one knew that there would be a kamikazde-i d and t.

[dmi.pris1]

We must give them their due. They take care of old military equipment. Well, what about this? Tragedy .. That's how "Maxim Gorky" died

[Grigorievich]

Actually, the full crew of the "flying fortress" is 11 people. It's a pity for both the pilots and the planes.

[tralflot1832]

Usually, such an aircraft as the B17 in the states contains more than one person, which is why there were so many people in the cockpit, although they could also roll the "barn" allows.

[svp67]

Quote: dmi.pris

Why are there five people at the air show in the cockpit of the "flying fortress"?

They earned money ... and there is nothing seditious here

[U-58]

I watched the video.
The disaster is very reminiscent of the incident with "Maxim Gorky".
A small bird rams an eagle.
And now figure out what was in the pilot's head.

[Piramidon]

Quote: U-58

And now figure out what was in the pilot's head.

I wanted to impress the public, but did not calculate.

[rotmistr60]

You can’t name it otherwise than an attempt at recklessness for a more effective picture. That "pleased" the audience of the show. Aviation rules are obviously not for everyone.

[Yaro Polk]

kamikaze avenged X\Nagasaki

[tralflot1832]

Bombs were not thrown at Nagasaki and Hiroshima at 17, but at 29. This is more like revenge for Hamburg.

[aszzz888]

the pilot of the fighter wanted to fly in front of the nose of the bomber, but miscalculated and a collision occurred.

Violation of elementary rules.

[Ros 56]

It is a pity and people and planes. Condolences to the dead. One thing is good, at least they don’t forget their history, otherwise these fucking politicians reduced everything to the sewer level.

[Dronza]

It's a pity the planes of the Second World War, there are fewer and fewer of them alive, and here there are two at once.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

This shot explains everything, the fighter pilot was blinded by the sun.

[Sergey3]

Yes, on the drum, who was blinded by what, let them repeat an encore several times on the Fu-35s!

[Aviator_]

It is very similar to the death of our aircraft "Maxim Gorky" on May 18, 1935. The same carelessness of a fighter pilot.

[Arisaka]

The Soviet press laid all the blame on N. P. Blagin, who violated discipline and arbitrarily performed an aerobatics maneuver that led to a disaster. On September 12, 1935, the Polish newspaper Sword published a false letter with anti-communist appeals, allegedly signed by Blagin, from which it followed that Blagin acted intentionally. Later it was reprinted by the newspaper of Russian emigrants in Paris, Vozrozhdenie.

One way or another, N. P. Blagin was buried along with all the victims of the tragedy. Assistance was rendered to the widow and daughter of Blagin: they received a new apartment, their daughter was transferred to a new school; the widow, daughter and one of Blagin's parents were granted pensions for the loss of a breadwinner; the family was surrounded by the care and attention of local party leaders.

In 2010, a memorandum containing the results of an investigation conducted by the NKVD in 1935 was declassified. It follows from it that 1-1,5 hours before the flight with the pilots participating in the flight with "Maxim Gorky", the workers of the film factory of military training films V. G. Ryazhsky and A. A. Pullin met. With the approval of the senior leadership of the Air Force, they insisted on changing the flight scenario, and the pilots, without the knowledge of the flight director and immediate superiors, were forced to agree. The purpose of documentary filmmakers is to ensure the filming of aerial aerobatic figures next to the "Maxim Gorky" for propaganda work. After the tragedy, Ryazhsky and Pullin were convicted.

[Aviator_]

In 2010 year memorandum was declassified with the results of an investigation conducted by the NKVD in 1935.

"It's all very noble" (don Sera), but I would like to see a scan of this note.

[Arisaka]

I could not find the scan when I read it, only the contents of the letter. Perhaps it is somewhere in the collections and so on.

The letter of the head of the NKVD G.G. Yagoda to Stalin dated June 14, 1935 says:

"The investigation carried out by the NKVD into the circumstances preceding the crash of the Maxim Gorky aircraft established that on May 18 of this year, an hour and a half before the flight, pilots Zhurov, Rybushkin, Blagin and employees of the Moscow film factory gathered in the pilot's room of the TsAGI flight test station military training films Ryazhsky V.G., Ter-Oganesov K.Ya., and Pullin A.A., to discuss the order of the flight of aircraft and their filming. the plane must be during the flight, the pilot Blagin, in the presence of Zhurov and Rybushkin, announced that he intended to do aerobatics on a fighter for scale during the escort of Maxim Gorky.

Zhurov, who was present at the discussion, objected to Blagin's proposal, pointing out to the latter that he should not do during the flight of the figures. Despite this, Ryazhsky and Pullin, employees of the Moscow Film Factory of Military Training Films, continuing the discussion of this issue without Zhurov’s participation, entered into direct negotiations with Blagin, agreeing with the latter that he would produce figures on a fighter jet for filming ...

We have brought to criminal responsibility workers of the film factory of military training films Ryazhsky V.G. and Pullin A.A., guilty of having, without any permission, agreed with Blagin on the production of aerobatics for filming, which was the direct cause of the death of the Maxim Gorky aircraft.

[Aviator_]

Thanks for the info. It looks like the filmmakers ruined the plane and a lot of people for the sake of a spectacular shot. There was infa that in the 90s, the KVN worker Maslyakov, on the set of some of his programs, ruined a helicopter in much the same way (for the sake of the frame). There were relatively few casualties.

[Alex92]

Come on, the pilot obeys the filmmakers, or the leadership of the unit? If it was forbidden, why did you violate the order? If there was no order, then all this is just chatter, he did it, he made a mistake, he paid with his life. But what was inflated with the "anti-Soviet conspiracy" is, of course, a disgrace to the then NKVD, why then is the "traitor" buried along with the rest?

[Yun Klob]

It was necessary not to stick together, but if they already stuck, then stribati with a parachute.

[saygon66]

There, most often, the old men are at the helm ... There was not enough reaction speed!

[Old Horseradish]

I thought the flying fortress was stronger. Well, then immediately the fuselage fell off. It must have been rotten from old age. And the fighter pilot is probably a descendant of the German aces.

[Pane Kohanku]

We had such a case in the 30s with the Maxim Gorky aircraft, unfortunately. Only there the people died - mother do not grieve.

[vadimtt]

Pity the crew. These are retired pilots and technicians who are extremely passionate about military history. They do everything on bare enthusiasm, for their hard-earned money. And the show receives money to continue restoration work.
It is a pity, because of the depressing legislation, in our country such a movement is impossible.

[your1970]

Quote: vadimtt

Pity the crew. These are retired pilots and technicians who are extremely passionate about military history. They do everything on bare enthusiasm, for their hard-earned money. And the show receives money to continue restoration work.
Sorry, because of the depressing legislation, in our country such a movement is impossible.

And now calculate on the calculator - how much would insurance cost for our person? If the fighter had remained alive:
1) payments for 5 dead
2) payments for the destroyed B17
3) payments for possible damage on the ground to airport property

Can you imagine the size of the tariff to cover 20-30 million rubles?
That is why we do not have amateur air as such, too much money is needed ....