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Two World War II planes collided in the air during an air show in the United States

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Two World War II planes collided in the air during an air show in the United States

In the United States, two World War II aircraft collided during an air show in Dallas, Texas. According to the American press, the crews had no chance to survive.


The annual "Wings Over Dallas" airshow, run by a local organization dedicated to the preservation and restoration of World War II aircraft, ended in tragedy. During the showing of the episode dedicated to the events of WWII, two planes collided in the air, we are talking about a bomber and a fighter. The event was held at the Dallas Executive Airport.

According to the Federal Office of Civil aviation United States, a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress bomber and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra fighter collided in the air. Judging by the video, the fighter pilot wanted to fly in front of the nose of the bomber, but miscalculated and a collision occurred. Both planes broke up while still in the air, debris fell to the ground. According to emergency services, both crew died, no one survived.

(...) the two planes collided around 13:30 at Dallas Executive Airport on the 5300 block of Challenger Drive, off Highway 67 in Red Bird. According to WFAA-TV (Channel 8), a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress was involved in the crash.

the Dallas Fire and Rescue Service said in a statement.

According to preliminary data, there was a crew of five people on board the bomber, but this is inaccurate, there was only one in the fighter. A large fire started at the crash site, which was promptly extinguished. Whether there were casualties on the ground as a result of the incident is not reported.

The B-17 Flying Fortress is an American four-engine heavy bomber produced since 1934. Participated in the battles of World War II, today there are only a few copies of this bomber left in the world.

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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 13 November 2022 07: 47
    +13
    World War II continues to gather its harvest, where did the "driver" of the fighter buy his rights?
    1. Bingo
      Bingo 13 November 2022 07: 53
      +10
      Quote: tralflot1832
      World War 2 continues to gather its harvest

      The Germans had one, 301 victories on the account ...
      After the war, Barkhorn joined the West German Air Force. In the mid-60s, while testing a new VTOL fighter, Barkhorn's plane lost control and crashed to the ground. When the wounded Gerhard was pulled out of the wrecked car, he muttered only one phrase through his strength: "302nd!" Barkhorn retired in 1976.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 13 November 2022 07: 58
        +6
        Heard about this, but it turns out that he is still that joker!
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 13 November 2022 08: 12
        +6
        The fate of Buckhorn is interesting, he was nevertheless finished off by love for speed. The question is, just who was driving. After an accident in the car, his wife died instantly, he died after 5 days.
        1. novel66
          novel66 13 November 2022 09: 49
          +2
          Either he or Hartman, it seems that both were there, but their accounts are still ....
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 13 November 2022 09: 52
            -3
            The search movement is well developed in the Kuban. They attribute too much to themselves. Yes, and in the Kuban appeared in the regiment of Kozhedub "Kuban whatnot".
            1. NAF-NAF
              NAF-NAF 13 November 2022 09: 59
              +7
              Not Kozhedub, but Pokryshkin.
              And I completely agree about the German postscripts.
            2. novel66
              novel66 13 November 2022 10: 10
              0
              That's why we had to change planes! But stubborn bastards
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 13 November 2022 10: 15
                -1
                We must look for this episode in the Kuban, I don’t remember which German had it in his memoirs. 7 times they made holes in the plane, he reached the airfield and took the plane for the next flight from another pilot.
                1. novel66
                  novel66 13 November 2022 10: 27
                  +4
                  and Hartman escaped, pretending to be wounded, from the truck, he was also shot down more than once
            3. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 13 November 2022 10: 10
              +1
              We will correct according to the remarks, "Kuban whatnot" regiment Pokryshkin A.I.
              1. novel66
                novel66 13 November 2022 10: 29
                +1
                really ... we confuse the pedals! cheer up now!!!
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 13 November 2022 10: 44
                  +4
                  Back in 1968, as a child, I was lucky enough to pick mushrooms as a child, to perform natural needs on crosses on the wings of a downed Yu 88, in the area of ​​Drinking Lake in Murmansk. By the way, it was well preserved. Most likely it was shot down in winter. hi
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 13 November 2022 10: 52
                    0
                    I had to break off something! hi
                    1. tralflot1832
                      tralflot1832 13 November 2022 10: 55
                      0
                      Now I’m sorry, there was something to break off. Under the USSR, they didn’t stand on ceremony with the wreckage. True, I once saw an aircraft cannon in metal at school. The KGB overwrought the whole class, after that.
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 13 November 2022 11: 31
                        +1
                        I had an AM-23 under my bed in the officer’s hostel, I wanted to bring a souvenir home ... it didn’t grow together
              2. NAF-NAF
                NAF-NAF 13 November 2022 11: 52
                +2
                Quote: tralflot1832
                We will correct according to the remarks, "Kuban whatnot" regiment Pokryshkin A.I.

                Well, if you really correct it, then Captain Pokryshkin in the spring of 1943 was only a commander in the 16th GvIAP (Isaev's regiment)
    2. Silver99
      Silver99 13 November 2022 08: 16
      +4
      The second plane intentionally went to ram
      1. mitroha
        mitroha 13 November 2022 08: 54
        0
        As an option, something happened to the pilot. Seizure or similar
        Not the full video, it is not clear whether he changed the direction of the flight.
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 13 November 2022 09: 26
        0
        He told you that, well, stop writing crap.
    3. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 13 November 2022 08: 47
      +5
      In the United States, authentic aircraft crashes constantly occur during various "historical" Avishaws. The reasons are always the same - either the failure of the old technology or the recklessness of the pilots.
    4. svp67
      svp67 13 November 2022 09: 21
      +8
      Quote: tralflot1832
      2 world continues to gather its harvest,

      No, not her. Harvest recklessness and disregard for the rules
      Quote: tralflot1832
      fighter jet driver where did he buy his license?

      In the same place as our pilot, who seems to have rammed the Maxim Gorky plane, only there were much more victims
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 13 November 2022 11: 29
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        In the same place as our pilot, who seems to have rammed the Maxim Gorky plane, only there were much more victims

        Showing off does not lead to anything good, as in this case.
      2. Alex92
        Alex92 14 November 2022 06: 49
        0
        It was different with Gorky, it looked like an accident there, although the NKVD attributed everything to the pilot "I" (I already forgot his last name), they flew in parallel, and here, judging by the video, the pilot perfectly saw the plane in front of him
        1. svp67
          svp67 14 November 2022 08: 40
          0
          Quote: Alex92
          , they flew in parallel,

          Yes, really, only the pilot then crashed into the wing of the Gorky, on the descending "Nesterov loop"
    5. dauria
      dauria 13 November 2022 12: 56
      +3
      2 world continues to gather its harvest,

      No. Harvest is collected by the phrase "Look how I can"
  2. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 13 November 2022 07: 58
    +3
    Why are there five people at the air show in the cockpit of the "flying fortress"?
    1. mmaxx
      mmaxx 13 November 2022 08: 03
      +8
      People wanted to ride a retro bomber. Yes, and the bomber needs to be fed. Still, the money is not superfluous. No one knew that there would be a kamikazde-i d and t.
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 13 November 2022 08: 13
        +10
        We must give them their due. They take care of old military equipment. Well, what about this? Tragedy .. That's how "Maxim Gorky" died
    2. Grigorievich
      Grigorievich 13 November 2022 08: 05
      +10
      Actually, the full crew of the "flying fortress" is 11 people. It's a pity for both the pilots and the planes.
    3. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 13 November 2022 08: 08
      +4
      Usually, such an aircraft as the B17 in the states contains more than one person, which is why there were so many people in the cockpit, although they could also roll the "barn" allows.
    4. svp67
      svp67 14 November 2022 08: 40
      0
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Why are there five people at the air show in the cockpit of the "flying fortress"?

      They earned money ... and there is nothing seditious here
  3. U-58
    U-58 13 November 2022 08: 01
    +4
    I watched the video.
    The disaster is very reminiscent of the incident with "Maxim Gorky".
    A small bird rams an eagle.
    And now figure out what was in the pilot's head.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 13 November 2022 11: 32
      0
      Quote: U-58
      And now figure out what was in the pilot's head.

      I wanted to impress the public, but did not calculate.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 November 2022 08: 19
    +5
    You can’t name it otherwise than an attempt at recklessness for a more effective picture. That "pleased" the audience of the show. Aviation rules are obviously not for everyone.
  5. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 13 November 2022 08: 23
    -1
    kamikaze avenged X\Nagasaki
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 13 November 2022 08: 52
      +8
      hi Bombs were not thrown at Nagasaki and Hiroshima at 17, but at 29. This is more like revenge for Hamburg.
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 November 2022 08: 48
    +1
    the pilot of the fighter wanted to fly in front of the nose of the bomber, but miscalculated and a collision occurred.
    Violation of elementary rules.
  7. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 November 2022 09: 24
    +8
    It is a pity and people and planes. Condolences to the dead. One thing is good, at least they don’t forget their history, otherwise these fucking politicians reduced everything to the sewer level.
  8. Dronza
    Dronza 13 November 2022 09: 57
    +3
    It's a pity the planes of the Second World War, there are fewer and fewer of them alive, and here there are two at once.
  9. vovochkarzhevsky
    vovochkarzhevsky 13 November 2022 09: 59
    +2
    This shot explains everything, the fighter pilot was blinded by the sun.

    1. Sergey3
      Sergey3 13 November 2022 10: 32
      +1
      Yes, on the drum, who was blinded by what, let them repeat an encore several times on the Fu-35s!
  10. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 13 November 2022 10: 42
    +2
    It is very similar to the death of our aircraft "Maxim Gorky" on May 18, 1935. The same carelessness of a fighter pilot.
    1. Arisaka
      Arisaka 13 November 2022 17: 05
      0
      The Soviet press laid all the blame on N. P. Blagin, who violated discipline and arbitrarily performed an aerobatics maneuver that led to a disaster. On September 12, 1935, the Polish newspaper Sword published a false letter with anti-communist appeals, allegedly signed by Blagin, from which it followed that Blagin acted intentionally. Later it was reprinted by the newspaper of Russian emigrants in Paris, Vozrozhdenie.

      One way or another, N. P. Blagin was buried along with all the victims of the tragedy. Assistance was rendered to the widow and daughter of Blagin: they received a new apartment, their daughter was transferred to a new school; the widow, daughter and one of Blagin's parents were granted pensions for the loss of a breadwinner; the family was surrounded by the care and attention of local party leaders.

      In 2010, a memorandum containing the results of an investigation conducted by the NKVD in 1935 was declassified. It follows from it that 1-1,5 hours before the flight with the pilots participating in the flight with "Maxim Gorky", the workers of the film factory of military training films V. G. Ryazhsky and A. A. Pullin met. With the approval of the senior leadership of the Air Force, they insisted on changing the flight scenario, and the pilots, without the knowledge of the flight director and immediate superiors, were forced to agree. The purpose of documentary filmmakers is to ensure the filming of aerial aerobatic figures next to the "Maxim Gorky" for propaganda work. After the tragedy, Ryazhsky and Pullin were convicted.
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 13 November 2022 17: 42
        0
        In 2010 year memorandum was declassified with the results of an investigation conducted by the NKVD in 1935.
        "It's all very noble" (don Sera), but I would like to see a scan of this note.
        1. Arisaka
          Arisaka 13 November 2022 19: 37
          0
          I could not find the scan when I read it, only the contents of the letter. Perhaps it is somewhere in the collections and so on.

          The letter of the head of the NKVD G.G. Yagoda to Stalin dated June 14, 1935 says:

          "The investigation carried out by the NKVD into the circumstances preceding the crash of the Maxim Gorky aircraft established that on May 18 of this year, an hour and a half before the flight, pilots Zhurov, Rybushkin, Blagin and employees of the Moscow film factory gathered in the pilot's room of the TsAGI flight test station military training films Ryazhsky V.G., Ter-Oganesov K.Ya., and Pullin A.A., to discuss the order of the flight of aircraft and their filming. the plane must be during the flight, the pilot Blagin, in the presence of Zhurov and Rybushkin, announced that he intended to do aerobatics on a fighter for scale during the escort of Maxim Gorky.

          Zhurov, who was present at the discussion, objected to Blagin's proposal, pointing out to the latter that he should not do during the flight of the figures. Despite this, Ryazhsky and Pullin, employees of the Moscow Film Factory of Military Training Films, continuing the discussion of this issue without Zhurov’s participation, entered into direct negotiations with Blagin, agreeing with the latter that he would produce figures on a fighter jet for filming ...

          We have brought to criminal responsibility workers of the film factory of military training films Ryazhsky V.G. and Pullin A.A., guilty of having, without any permission, agreed with Blagin on the production of aerobatics for filming, which was the direct cause of the death of the Maxim Gorky aircraft.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 13 November 2022 19: 51
            +1
            Thanks for the info. It looks like the filmmakers ruined the plane and a lot of people for the sake of a spectacular shot. There was infa that in the 90s, the KVN worker Maslyakov, on the set of some of his programs, ruined a helicopter in much the same way (for the sake of the frame). There were relatively few casualties.
            1. Alex92
              Alex92 14 November 2022 06: 56
              0
              Come on, the pilot obeys the filmmakers, or the leadership of the unit? If it was forbidden, why did you violate the order? If there was no order, then all this is just chatter, he did it, he made a mistake, he paid with his life. But what was inflated with the "anti-Soviet conspiracy" is, of course, a disgrace to the then NKVD, why then is the "traitor" buried along with the rest?
  11. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 13 November 2022 13: 09
    +1
    It was necessary not to stick together, but if they already stuck, then stribati with a parachute.
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 13 November 2022 15: 54
      0
      There, most often, the old men are at the helm ... There was not enough reaction speed!
  12. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 13 November 2022 15: 35
    0
    I thought the flying fortress was stronger. Well, then immediately the fuselage fell off. It must have been rotten from old age. And the fighter pilot is probably a descendant of the German aces.
  13. Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 13 November 2022 18: 01
    0
    We had such a case in the 30s with the Maxim Gorky aircraft, unfortunately. Only there the people died - mother do not grieve.
  14. vadimtt
    vadimtt 14 November 2022 10: 10
    0
    Pity the crew. These are retired pilots and technicians who are extremely passionate about military history. They do everything on bare enthusiasm, for their hard-earned money. And the show receives money to continue restoration work.
    It is a pity, because of the depressing legislation, in our country such a movement is impossible.
    1. your1970
      your1970 14 November 2022 12: 04
      0
      Quote: vadimtt
      Pity the crew. These are retired pilots and technicians who are extremely passionate about military history. They do everything on bare enthusiasm, for their hard-earned money. And the show receives money to continue restoration work.
      Sorry, because of the depressing legislation, in our country such a movement is impossible.

      And now calculate on the calculator - how much would insurance cost for our person? If the fighter had remained alive:
      1) payments for 5 dead
      2) payments for the destroyed B17
      3) payments for possible damage on the ground to airport property

      Can you imagine the size of the tariff to cover 20-30 million rubles?
      That is why we do not have amateur air as such, too much money is needed ....