Turkey has developed an OZGUR radar with AFAR for fighters and attack drones

The Turkish defense company Aselsan introduced an active phased array radar (AFAR), developed in-house as part of the OZGUR project. It is planned to equip the F-16 fighters of the Turkish Air Force and attack aircraft with this airborne radar. Drones Akinci.

At the moment, it is planned to upgrade 35 F-16 Block 30 aircraft (out of 43 in operation), equipping them with new radar, avionics and other auxiliary systems. Along with the Block 30 modification, 117 Block 40 and 110 Block 50 are serving in the Air Force, however, these versions are not subject to modernization, since there is only the source code for the Block 30 iteration.

The latest gallium nitride radar technology allows it to operate more efficiently than most AFAR radars currently available. The radar has the capabilities of electronic warfare and can simultaneously work on air, ground and sea targets

- noted in the publication Aviation Online.

Along with plans to modernize the fighter fleet on its own, Ankara is counting on Washington's help. As President Recep Tayyip Erdogan noted, in connection with the elections to the US Congress, he hopes to resolve this issue in the near future: Turkey is seeking approval by the US authorities for a program to improve 40 F-16 Block 70 and 79 F-16 Block 40/50+ fighters to the level of Block 70.

Comments

[antivirus]

As with Iran, we will buy from a friend.
You give international cooperation to the military-industrial complex.
Russia with the USA and Turkey

[Doccor18]

Let the Su-35 buy, out of old friendship ...

[Greg Miller]

Why bother with the Su-35? Sell ​​"Poplars" to "partners" right away, so that they have something to hit Moscow ... Turkey has been and will be a geopolitical adversary. And the fact that she decided to cash in on the resale of Russian raw materials to Europe does not make her an ally of Russia.

[cold wind]

Akinji with this radar and the entire weapon system.

[Fangaro]

That this system is better than all the others - I do not believe.
What is modern - I believe. Otherwise, they wouldn't write about it. About the use of some kind of gallium nitrides - interesting.
To this day, I believed that silicon was the head of everything.

[mitroha]

Quote from Fangaro

That this system is better than all the others - I do not believe.
What is modern - I believe

It is doubtful that this is a purely Turkish development. They didn’t master the engines for bayraktars in any way, with a tank the stone flower was not very good. And then again AFAR.

[HattinGokbori88]

In fact, they made an engine with the same performance as the Austrian Rotax 912. But what Ukraine offered had an excellent weight-to-thrust ratio, so they use it. But the Turks have plans to switch to a full-fledged domestic engine in the same way that they completely replaced Canadian optical and target capsules with domestic ones.
The performance of the local helicopter engine is improving every day and is already being used on transport helicopters. But yes, unfortunately the performance of the local tank engines is poor and Turkey doesn't have time to wait that long, so they try very hard to buy the South Korean ones, but the United States blocks the deal repeatedly.

[Expert2017]

Bayraktars are now coming with OLS Argos 2 from Europeans. The first one is used on Orions. AFAR Israel helped them do it. Like a lot with UAVs. The engine was made by Ukrainians.

[rtv]

Gallium nitride and gallium arsenide have been used in such products for a long time and there is no novelty in this. Microwave devices based on them show better characteristics than silicon

[orionvitt]

Quote from Fangaro

That this system is better than all the others - I do not believe

I agree with you. Since when, the Turks have something better than the countries involved in this life. Barryzhit, yes, consumer goods, too, it's theirs, Turkish. And here is the latest radar (better than the rest ), sorry. Especially on their disposable drones, which are against normal air defense, showed their zero effectiveness. This is not for you to drive naked partisans through the desert.

[Alien From]

Even the Turks work tirelessly, we only have parades.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Alien From

Even the Turks work tirelessly, we only have parades.

There is a constant struggle for cash flows, and their further dispersion.

[Vita vko]

AFAR is a small piece from the promised F-35s. But for Turkey, this is practically space technology.

[HattinGokbori88]

ASELSAN has been manufacturing and selling radars with AESA for quite some time now. I don't know how your huge industry works now, but last I read on a website sponsored by the Chinese government that Russia is still trying[1].
Even India is ditching Russian-made radars from its massive fleet of Su-30MKIs and adding western radars with AESA that they produce locally with help from the west. Whereas the Russian arms industry as a whole far outstrips a smaller, resource-poor country like Turkey thanks to a huge head start. If Turkey stays by the side of its Islamist patriots for another 30 years, they may surprise Russia with more than just drones or AESA radars.

1. https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2020/07/13/why-russia-cant-make-an-aesa-radar/

[Genry]

Quote: HattinGokbori88

I don't know how your huge industry works now, but last I read on a website sponsored by the Chinese government that Russia is still trying to

If you don't know, don't announce your stupidity officially.
And many articles on the Internet are even worse than they write on fences. Just the one you read.

Quote: HattinGokbori88

Even India is dropping Russian-made radars from its huge fleet of Su-30MKIs and adding Western radars with AESA,

You are specifically lying, since the Indians were supplied with open-tire aircraft and they were equipped with any available electronics ordered by India.

[d4rkmesa]

The radar on the Su-30MKI is not so easy to change, it is too closely integrated with the SLA and onboard computer.

[evgen1221]

So, and after how long will Ukraine demand it for itself and for free?

[scientist]

Quote: evgen1221

is it for free?

No one will give even a nail to Ukraine for free. All funded by American sponsors. And they can print $ as much as they want, because other countries are engaged in the supply of these candy wrappers.

[solar]

It happens that the Turks give for free. When raising money for Bayraktar, the Bayraktar firm sometimes gives UAVs for free, offering to spend the money collected on other tasks. This was the case, for example, when collecting money in Ukraine and the Baltic states.

[scientist]

Quote from solar

Turks and give for free

For one "free" $ that is widely publicized in the media to create an image, they receive 100% profit from each shipment. And they are definitely not paid by Ukrainians. Everything is stolen there already at the government level, enterprises will not even see last year's cent. Therefore, everything is done under contracts directly with the American funds that finance the war.

[solar]

you, as I understand it, cannot bring any contracts. As well as evidence that "they receive 100% profit from each delivery" (do they sell drugs or UAVs at all? :)).
In principle, everyone can believe in what he sees fit.

[scientist]

Quote from solar

In principle, everyone can believe

This is not a matter of faith, but of knowledge and experience. Even if I personally worked in the Soros Foundation, all the same, contracts of this kind are under a great secrecy stamp.
But you correctly remembered about drugs, because everyone knows that the most profitable business after the drug trade is the arms trade.

[HattinGokbori88]

ASELSAN is also among the few companies that produce AESA radars. I wonder why AFAR's choice if they have access to block 30 source code!

[Genry]

"Well, you are a Turk!"
AESA and AFAR are one and the same.

[solar]

As far as I understand, this will be the world's first mass-produced radar based on gallium nitride, before that it was produced only on the basis of gallium arsenide.
Ground-based radars with gallium nitride have already been announced, sort of.
One of the main problems of increasing the power and compactness of semiconductors is that the existing semiconductors have a sufficiently low upper limit of the temperature range, which forces the use of complex cooling and requires special attention when creating modules, for example, special substrates.
Gallium nitride, unlike arsenide, allows operation at noticeably higher temperatures, which simplifies cooling and makes it possible to create more powerful and compact APAA transceiver modules.

[Genry]

Quote from solar

Gallium nitride, unlike arsenide, allows operation at noticeably higher temperatures, which simplifies cooling and makes it possible to create more powerful and compact APAA transceiver modules.

The problem is the receiver part, which is made of low noise materials and whatever you use, the receiver needs to be cooled as there is unbeatable "thermal noise".

[solar]

The problem is the power of the transmitting part.

[Genry]

Quote from solar

The problem is the power of the transmitting part.

This problem has long been solved in electronic warfare systems. There, the power is incommensurable with AFAR.

[solar]

this problem has not been solved in airborne afars, more precisely, it has been partially solved due to large and expensive tricks with cooling. Only now modules based on gallium nitride began to appear.

[Genry]

Quote from solar

this problem has not been solved in onboard afars, more precisely, it has been partially solved due to large and expensive tricks with cooling.

Don't confuse electronics and design issues. You need to cool and it does not depend on the type of electronics. The radiation efficiency is not more than 40% - this is ideal (theoretical limit is 50%).

Quote from solar

Only now modules based on gallium nitride began to appear.

The Boeing EA-18G Growler REP aircraft has long been known for having this technology.
In Russia, presumably - Khibiny.

[solar]

there is no radar based on gallium nitride on the growler.

You need to cool and it does not depend on the type of electronics.

The possibility of cooling depends, among other things, on the temperature difference.

[Genry]

Quote from solar

there is no radar based on the growler.

On Growler, the REB complex on GaN. I have already mentioned incommensurability.
If you read the material about Growler, you would go to the F-35, which so far flies only in Israel with their avionics complex. The native complex is not very good yet, since a lot of features are embedded in it (one of them is REP).

Quote from solar

The possibility of cooling depends, among other things, on the temperature difference.

Kindergarten in vests.
Thermal output of the cooling system (or heat pump), i.e. how much heat it can dissipate.
Once again, this is not an electronic problem. This is a constructive design using tricky technologies, like antifreeze in a car (the higher the boiling point, the higher the power can be obtained from the engine).

[d4rkmesa]

The Yusov Navy has already ordered something like APG-79 v.4 with GaN, so it's not the first.

[ASM]

This is bullshit, they haven’t even been able to produce chassis for tanks for the second decade. In Turkey, there are no production cycles closed to their own country - they are only trying to mold someone else's into some final products. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with this, but until it is limited due to some political reasons.

[Thorvlobnor IV]

I don’t know exactly when Turkey began to develop chassis for tanks, but Aselsan was founded in 1975 and since then has been developing and manufacturing communications, radar, avionics, electronic warfare, air defense and weapons control systems. In 2015, the newest radar and electronic warfare plant was opened for $157 million.

[VitaminBF3mg]

Yes, all this crap, the Turks, as they didn’t know how, they won’t master it further. Tomatoes are something else

[d4rkmesa]

You still have many wonderful discoveries... In fact, countries like South Korea and Turkey already have comparable capabilities in many areas and are actively pushing ours in emerging markets.

[Nickelium]

Why did you include the Turks here? They only collect.