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The Drive: Americans have found a new way to use Stinger missiles

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The Drive: Americans have found a new way to use Stinger missiles

According to the American edition of The Drive, the US Army has found a new way to use the Stinger missile - now it can be launched from the Javelin launcher.


According to the publication, work on the joint use of Stinger missiles and the Javelin installation, it turns out, has been going on since September 2020, but only recently the details of this military experiment became known to the general public.

A year ago, video footage of test tests was published, where a Stinger missile launched from a Javelin installation hit a drone. The tests themselves took place in March 2021, writes The Drive.

To launch the "stingers" they used a modified Javelin installation, which has higher performance. This installation, called the Javelin Lightweight Command Launch Unit, can detect a target at twice the distance at night and three times as much during the day as the original installation, the publication notes. In addition, these indicators do not depend on weather conditions.

The upgraded Javelin unit is also equipped with infrared optics and weighs significantly less than a conventional unit.

Recall that until recently, Stinger missiles were launched only from the same name hand-held anti-aircraft missile system.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 11 November 2022 12: 35
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    I would like to see how this process looks like. They crossed a dart with a sting!
    1. svp67
      svp67 11 November 2022 13: 46
      +5
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Crossed a dart with a sting!

      We were able to place them in the same package. A solution that has been asking for a VERY long time. NWO has now spurred all such questions
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 11 November 2022 13: 47
        +1
        At the very bottom I posted how it looks with Stinger.
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 11 November 2022 12: 38
    -2
    The price of such an installation will probably be cosmic?
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 November 2022 12: 43
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    Why did you decide to cross it with the Javelin, and not just finalize the Stinger? Well, they know better, the main thing is that the performance characteristics have increased.
    1. cold wind
      cold wind 11 November 2022 12: 58
      +14
      Because Stingers and Javelins are standard equipment for an infantry platoon. They are in Bradley / Stryker / MRAP and are used depending on the task. Accordingly, it is logical to have a single launcher and different missiles in transport and launch containers than two launchers that are different but identical in functionality. Stupidly cheaper and takes up less space, operators need to be taught for one complex.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 11 November 2022 13: 14
        +2
        Cheaper and takes up less space
        Perhaps it will be after they completely switch to a new installation. Only this "cheaper" will have to be covered for a long time, because. new installations will not be manufactured for free.
    2. Entropy
      Entropy 11 November 2022 13: 15
      +2
      because it is convenient to have a launcher for all occasions, changing types of missiles?
      1. ilya.muromczev2013
        ilya.muromczev2013 12 November 2022 02: 40
        +1
        In reality, this "convenience" is highly questionable. Any universal thing loses to the "mono" version. Remember the same knife with a set of different saw forks, or a jacket with a "winter" lining - neither this nor that (hell knows what) ...
  4. Voronezh
    Voronezh 11 November 2022 12: 48
    -2
    Didn't understand anything. Did they attach a javelin scope to a stinger? But the main thing is when the GOS of the stinger missile captures the target. And the point is that the sighting javelin sees further. Until the GOS sees the launch target, there will be no launch.
    1. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 11 November 2022 13: 13
      +2
      Everything is very simple. In order for the GOS of the missile to capture the target, the operator must keep the aiming mark of the sight on the target for some time. And for this he must see the goal. For shooting at NIGHT at the Stinger, it was necessary to install a separate unit to the existing standard sight. And so 1) it is no longer necessary 2) the reaction time is reduced - LWCLU allows you to see the target at NIGHT (and during the day) much earlier than the Stinger sight of the previous technological generation.
      Trials to do this began in 2020. The Americans honestly admit that it was the events in Ukraine that spurred the development to finish.
      I just did not understand whether the frame of the recognizer "friend or foe" remains in this case or not. Since this decision is mainly seen as a fight against small drones, then perhaps not.
      1. Voronezh
        Voronezh 11 November 2022 14: 39
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        It's clear. It only turns out that the launch range was limited not by the ability to capture the target of the GOS of the missile, but by the ability to detect this target with the sight of the launcher
        1. Foul skeptic
          Foul skeptic 11 November 2022 15: 01
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          the launch range was limited not by the ability to capture the target of the GOS of the missile, but by the ability to detect this target with the PU sight

          Yes. This is for all MANPADS with passive guidance. The GOS has a field of view. And in order for the target to hit this field of view, it is necessary to direct the rocket towards the target. And at night you don’t see it, and in the case of a drone, you don’t hear it.
  5. Nexcom
    Nexcom 11 November 2022 12: 48
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    N-yes, it turns out that another hemorrhagic appeared to our flyers .... Because of the zarrazy-pen dos nya ....

    In fact, unification is a plus. That's the whole question, how much will such a launcher cost amers?
    The more expensive - the better: high go broke soon ....

    Threat and Svidomity will master such a shaitan-pipe? probably the device has become more complicated and from the cries of Glory to Ukraine it will not work ...
  6. Foul skeptic
    Foul skeptic 11 November 2022 13: 32
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    until recently, Stinger missiles were launched only from the same-name hand-held anti-aircraft missile system.

    Of course not.
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 11 November 2022 13: 34
    -1
    This is what this thing looks like.
    What do you think is the best way to use it.
    1. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 11 November 2022 13: 45
      +1
      This is a photo from trial tests where it was hung on a frame and rods and cables were wound up to be able to work without an operator. Leaving the mechanism for launching the basic version of Stinger. To understand the very possibility of launching. The final version is the same Javelin in terms of ergonomics, just with a “tube” with a surface-to-air missile, and not a surface-to-surface one.
      You just need to understand that the presented option is just a development of the concept. By 2027, when the new M-SHORAD Increment 3 rocket is adopted instead of the Stinger, the concept will become a fact.
    2. Nexcom
      Nexcom 11 November 2022 13: 53
      +1
      Yes, let them keep this crap there at least five of us - the more uncomfortable they are, the better for us
  8. Bingo
    Bingo 11 November 2022 14: 26
    +1
    It is not clear what kind of drone, again, against the Geraniums - the same thing, after all ... The head in the rocket is the same, it will not capture the same way. Plus, that one launcher for two pipes is, of course, a matter. But now we have to think about how to shove an anti-drone rifle in there))) And for geraniums, also a cannon with programmable ammunition)))
    1. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 11 November 2022 14: 57
      -1
      The head in the rocket is the same, it won't capture the same

      On what is such a belief based? Especially when you consider that Stinger has a little more than one "head" options. And the APU was supplied not multispectral.
      1. Bingo
        Bingo 11 November 2022 15: 46
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        Demonstrate the capture of Geranium by the Stinger. With any head. Or even describe the mechanism. On WHAT exactly can be hovered over.
        1. Foul skeptic
          Foul skeptic 11 November 2022 16: 08
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          On the CONTRAST of the target against the sky in the SW IR range. Exactly in the same way as our Willows do it.


          The problem with Geraniums is not that the GOS of the missile cannot see them, but that it is not given such an opportunity. Why do you think strikes are now carried out in the dark, although the first ones were in the light?
          1. Bingo
            Bingo 11 November 2022 16: 57
            -1
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            Why do you think strikes are now carried out in the dark, although the first ones were in the light?

            That's because the contrast - the picture looks good. And here it is in real life:

            And the picture - yes ... Good contrast ... Tell me, so that instead of Stinger they cling to the camera, Geranium does not go astray, just like our Willows, but a photo with a flower will turn out well.
            Contrast, damn it ... Sea with air ...

            But Geranka is the same temperature as the air, and you can’t see NIFIGA in the guidance head.
            1. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 11 November 2022 17: 29
              +2
              And here it is in real life:

              Once again - the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have missiles with multispectral seekers. Therefore, for rattles that are hard to see in the IR range, the capture may break. Once. In your photos, maybe the one who did the launch is holding MANPADS for the first time in his life. You draw a conclusion from a special case - Eagles shoot down with Stingers, but Geranium, in your opinion, is not shot down. lol Two.
              Contrast, damn it ... Sea with air ...

              Hand face. What does the contrast of the horizon line have to do with it. See how the photo shows the supports in the visible part of the spectrum. And how they can be seen against the background of the sea in the SW IR range. The same will happen against the sky, as the clouds will be filtered out by the UV channel of the GOS (clouds are transparent to ultraviolet)
              But Geranka is the same temperature as the air, and you can’t see NIFIGA in the guidance head.

              That's why you get into arguments about something you don't understand at all. You are confusing IR and Short wave IR. This is not familiar to the layman from the films "thermal imaging"

              That same "thermal imaging", far IF range - the central picture.
              Near IR in the spectrum near the visible part, therefore high definition and contrast, since the atmosphere is transparent to these rays
            2. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 11 November 2022 18: 08
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              Here's a visual representation of how the sensor will perceive an air "cold" target in IR

              The only difference is that the GOS MANPADS has matrices with a lower resolution, so the far IR will have problems with capturing, the near one will not.
          2. Synoid
            Synoid 12 November 2022 12: 28
            -2
            They hit targets at night to reduce civilian losses, but Bandera's sing-alongs don't understand this to you, right?
            1. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 14 November 2022 09: 04
              -1
              Because of such narrow-minded people, including you, we have sailed to the sad situation that has developed at the moment. Because there are no brains, more like unfounded accusations of others.
              In the photo above, which Bingo provided with Stinger and Geranka on them, is it day or night?
              1. Synoid
                Synoid 18 November 2022 14: 42
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                People like me work and howl for the good of the Motherland. Power is a fickle thing.
                And such vile as you breed panic and gossip.
                1. Foul skeptic
                  Foul skeptic 18 November 2022 16: 41
                  -1
                  like me work and howl for the good of the motherland.

                  Freudian typo. ))
                  And such vile as you breed panic and gossip.

                  Please, indicate my text in which you saw "breeding panic and spreading gossip."
                  And also I ask you to answer my question to you from the previous message
                  In the photo above, which Bingo provided with Stinger and Geranka on them, is it day or night?
                  1. Synoid
                    Synoid 19 November 2022 08: 42
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                    Please, indicate my text in which you saw "breeding panic and spreading gossip."[quote][/quote]
                    Information without evidence is not gossip?
                    Learn the great and the mighty.
                    I don’t answer stupid questions, since it does not carry a semantic load, from the word at all.
                    1. Foul skeptic
                      Foul skeptic 21 November 2022 09: 28
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                      Information without evidence is not gossip?

                      Okay, to rephrase, what information did you consider requiring separate proof?
                      I don’t answer stupid questions, since it does not carry a semantic load, from the word at all.

                      The answer to this "stupid" question will instantly and unequivocally show the groundlessness of your accusations against me. That is why you even on a repeated request to answer, move away from the question.
                      Therefore, I will help you. Here is a picture from the conversation above, which shows an attempt to bring down Geranium.

                      It shows that the time of day is light.
                      My words are confirmed. Your accusations are unfounded.
                      All the best.
                      1. Synoid
                        Synoid 22 November 2022 12: 07
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                        The photo shows two strips from the cigarette butts of the villagers. What is indicated there by arrows and signatures is super evidence. Look at Malevich's black square, Geranium and Stinger are also there.
                      2. Foul skeptic
                        Foul skeptic 22 November 2022 12: 44
                        -1
                        The photo shows two strips from the cigarette butts of the villagers.

                        This is a video storyboard, find it and you will be happy.
                        What is indicated there by arrows and signatures is super evidence.

                        Then why is your righteous anger directed at me and not the person who posted this photo?
                        Donkey obstinacy where everything is clear is not the best indicator.
                        Here is a video with Geranium on a topvar - is it dark?
                        https://topwar.ru/202279-protivnik-pytalsja-sbit-udarnye-drony-geran-2-nad-odesskim-portom-s-pomoschju-strelkovogo-oruzhija.html

                        And is it dark here?
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02AISGS4Gaw

                        There are a lot of similar videos on the net and a small cart. But you keep persisting.
                      3. Synoid
                        Synoid 24 November 2022 14: 33
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                        Are you blind or.....? any point in the sky can be called a spaceship. Who posted this is a provocateur, and those who spread "toothless old women" according to Vysotsky.
  9. Berkut752
    Berkut752 11 November 2022 23: 19
    -2
    There you go, good boys. Now share with us, otherwise it’s all Ukrainians and Ukrainians.
    And the RF Armed Forces have been waiting for a long time.
  10. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 12 November 2022 05: 28
    0
    This only says one thing, that this infa is sucked from the finger.
  11. Fangaro
    Fangaro 12 November 2022 16: 11
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    Of course they are not brainwashed. Americans from ZPDRT. But what if their Stinger flew like a boomerang to them!
  12. Bayun
    Bayun 12 November 2022 16: 52
    +1
    unification of ATGMs / MANPADS is a logical smart solution. The anti-aircraft missile, apparently, will simply be longer, and the essence of the targeting of the "pipe" is the same in both cases.
  13. Private SA
    Private SA 13 November 2022 10: 26
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    Quote: Bayun
    unification of ATGMs / MANPADS is a logical smart solution. The anti-aircraft missile, apparently, will simply be longer, and the essence of the targeting of the "pipe" is the same in both cases.

    Yes, we thought of unifying the launcher ... We should have done it before unification
    RPG-7 and "Needles" think of it ... By replacing barrels of different diameters in the mountains of Afghanistan,
    hanging on a hump...