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The Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked the Antonovsky Bridge area, preventing the Russian Armed Forces and civilians from leaving Kherson without hindrance

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The Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked the Antonovsky Bridge area, preventing the Russian Armed Forces and civilians from leaving Kherson without hindrance

If someone has any idea that the Ukrainian side is giving Russian troops the opportunity to leave the right bank of the Kherson region without hindrance, without striking and simply taking a wait-and-see position, then we can definitely say: these are just illusions.


Just a few hours ago, the Ukrainian military used the American HIMARS universal missile systems to strike at the Antonovsky bridge area and at the crossing to the left bank of the Dnieper operating there.

These missile strikes were directed not only against Russian troops, but also against civilians, who, after reports of the withdrawal of the Russian army, finally decided for themselves that they were not going to remain under the Kyiv regime. In other words, many Kherson residents were initially skeptical about statements that Russian troops from the right bank would leave, and therefore were not going to leave their homes. Now the flow of people to leave Kherson turned out to be significant. People are trying to take every opportunity to cross to the other side of the Dnieper.

Against this background, the Ukrainian military command is already drawing out the lines of approach for the Hymars MLRS missiles to Crimea, noting that now the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have the opportunity to directly strike at the territory of the Crimean peninsula. It is noted that this will be possible after the missile launchers are placed in Kherson itself and that the range of their flight covers the distance to the northern borders of Crimea. That is, they say directly both that they are going to continue to hit the territory of Russia, and that they are ready to place a shock weapon in the city itself.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 11 November 2022 06: 30
    +17
    Khikhly spit on agreements, they have the opportunity - they beat, this is not our leadership ...
    1. vitvit123
      vitvit123 11 November 2022 06: 39
      +22
      Yes, I also think all the same that there was an agreement and talked about it yesterday, but the Ukrainians turned out to be who they were always ... the laughter of a madman is already slipping .. I already hide the situation in the war from my wife, because it’s not possible for her explain without words about betrayal, sabotage, delirium and surrealism...
      1. Asad
        Asad 11 November 2022 06: 58
        +3
        Techniques probably abandoned again? Yesterday I wrote about an agreement during our retreat, or there was none or they threw it again.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 11 November 2022 07: 18
          +12
          And where did the praising comments to the Tuvan reindeer herder disappear to?
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 11 November 2022 07: 50
            +8
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And where did the praising comments to the Tuvan reindeer herder disappear to?

            Never admired him ... Woodcarving, harems, playing tanks, ten years allotted to the country for the construction of the Army. The VKS, the Navy are wasted ... to no avail Yes, there were breakthroughs in Nuclear weapons ... Yes, hypersonic missiles, armats, su-57 ... But all this is in single copies ... The army is not built, the industry is not ready, the country dances and sings at all sorts of show-goes .... Allies like Serbia are at a loss What is with Russia, with the glorious Russian army? And everything is simple ... In the galley, not everyone rows correctly, many tabany, imitate rowing .. forward. It means a bag on the head, a stone at the feet and overboard. No ballast is needed on board the galley.
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          3. Yngvar
            Yngvar 11 November 2022 17: 49
            0
            "A little war - we are the shire of the taiga! We climb the cedar, we beat the bump, we hand over the chipmunk to the general store ..."
        2. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 07: 36
          -15
          there will always be abandoned equipment, until you see a photo of what was thrown except for trifles
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 11 November 2022 07: 42
            +9
            Wow little things!! Although it is difficult to have a dialogue with your perception of reality, but there are a lot of videos with abandoned equipment in the cart: a typhoon, tanks ..., where can you look for a larger one, if this is trifles for you? .. maybe if you give them an avik, you will see?
            Although I want to note that abandoned equipment can be disinformation, but with our "successes" I believe in the worst
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 08: 33
              -12
              from the sofa you can better see how it should be))) but in reality, according to all laws, it must be left, for example, at night so that the enemy does not notice the withdrawal of troops from the position for longer, the equipment is left
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 11 November 2022 08: 55
                -1
                I understand correctly that you mean yourself with a sofa ...
                Well, if you really continue your art, then you need to leave models or broken equipment that cannot be restored for a long time ..
                I see you are not in trouble...
                1. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 09: 00
                  -6
                  while you are setting up the layouts, the enemy knows about your departure and will gladly shoot in the back, and so at night they retreated in silence on foot, plunged into a car and drove off 10 km until they found
                  1. Alexander Salenko
                    Alexander Salenko 11 November 2022 09: 43
                    +3
                    Can you imagine how the mass of Urals with Kamaz roars? Yes, and you need to adjust them during the day, you are stuck in the 19th century, so then you could leave at night and that neighing of horses could burn the whole operation.
                    1. Nastia makarova
                      Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 10: 14
                      -3
                      Here I am talking to him about it! therefore, the equipment was left in positions
                      1. Alexander Salenko
                        Alexander Salenko 11 November 2022 10: 17
                        0
                        And they walk? They leave the equipment either due to a lack of fuel, or due to a breakdown, believe as an experienced tourist that it is better to go badly than go well.
                      2. Nastia makarova
                        Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 10: 26
                        0
                        walking away from the position ...............
                      3. Alexander Salenko
                        Alexander Salenko 11 November 2022 10: 38
                        0
                        Nastya, you didn’t understand along the way how much to walk away, 5 km, 10 km, to carry shells and zinc with cartridges or carry them? Maybe quit? It doesn't happen unnoticed. and nevermind day or night. It’s even hotter at night, because you have to turn on the headlights and the light can be seen from 5 km and beyond, there would be a high-rise from which you can see. And the spotter drone doesn’t care what time of day it is.
                      4. Nastia makarova
                        Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 11: 46
                        -3
                        you didn’t understand what I’m talking about, I’m talking about the fact that if they throw equipment and ammunition, then this is normal
                      5. Alexander Salenko
                        Alexander Salenko 11 November 2022 15: 31
                        +2
                        This is normal in us and will fly, take an interest in the evacuation of Odessa, they even managed to take out the horses there.
                  2. vitvit123
                    vitvit123 11 November 2022 09: 45
                    0
                    Your wealth has no limit!!..
                    Everyone, I can't compete with you..
                    Goodbye ..
              2. Mikhail Ya2
                Mikhail Ya2 11 November 2022 09: 21
                +3
                Or maybe you need to fight, and not announce the withdrawal of troops 3 days before the start? Why do these messages surovikina shuygu? Who fights like this?
                1. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 09: 31
                  -4
                  withdrawal started 2 weeks ago yet!!! withdrew the rear services, medical services, the National Guard, as well as part of the paratroopers, after the announcement, only the one who covered the retreat was withdrawn
              3. Two diplomas
                Two diplomas 11 November 2022 17: 44
                -1
                Zadolbali you already with this sofa. Unlike your sofa, many of us landed on our sofa with such length of service that you still have to live and live.
              4. Yngvar
                Yngvar 11 November 2022 17: 51
                +2
                Aha! 111th way to exhaust the enemy - by running away quickly and for a long time!?
        3. vitvit123
          vitvit123 11 November 2022 07: 38
          +2
          They threw it, they threw it ... everything is as always, this is already a mockery of the fraer ...
        4. cold wind
          cold wind 11 November 2022 08: 28
          +1
          There was no agreement whatsoever. We are forced to flee from Kherson, as well as from the Kyiv, Kharkov, Sumak and other regions. This is purely a military necessity. They are not going to negotiate with us at all, there is no need. They want our surrender.
          1. Div Divich
            Div Divich 12 November 2022 21: 51
            0
            I agree. After the mobilization of people, it will only be enough to fight for the DPR and LPR.
            Kherson became a problem, because of the Dnieper River, the damaged bridge put an end to supplies, it would not have been possible to fight for a long time without supplies.

            If there had been an agreement, they would have obviously left the region, and not to the other side of the river.
    2. Peter1First
      Peter1First 11 November 2022 08: 21
      +5
      This is because "they" have Faberge harder than ours. Our soft-bodied scrap was to make the transfer of ammunition across the Dnieper by helicopters or the dropping of cargo with parachutes by bombers, and America is not too lazy to bring weapons, equipment and ammunition across the ocean by planes to Rzeszow ... We were scrapped to cover the Antonovsky bridge with steel sheets and drive on, but Ukrainians, despite the shelling, restored the railway bridge near Odessa and built crossings over the Ingulets and Seversky Donets ... Ours lost almost half of the Black Sea fleet, and the Ukrainian Navy methodically and patiently chose the moment with outdated missiles and drowned .. ..Let's go further: -will it be better for us from the withdrawal of troops from behind the Dnieper? -The answer is negative! From the high right bank, all our defenses will be visible at a glance! The Dnieper is not a reservoir, it is not so wide, there will definitely be attacks on boats on our side and the DRG, and maybe even larger attacks. How are we going to hold the Kinburn Spit now? They will release water through the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station anyway, so that there is no pressure in the North Crimean canal. The forces and means of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be directed to other sectors of the front - the shelling from the Haimars on our defense will double. Points U and highmars will already reach Armyansk. Now on the right bank they will begin to identify those who voted in the referendum and other sympathizers - there will be numerous extrajudicial reprisals that they will not notice in the West, but for that they will definitely organize another 1 Bucha - which they will "see" there. Plus, from the "returned" territories, hundreds of thousands of remaining men are also mobilized as cannon fodder in the Armed Forces of Ukraine! The right-bank people will end up cursing us, just as the "rescued" boy cursed Don Quixote...
      1. Mikhail Ya2
        Mikhail Ya2 11 November 2022 08: 38
        -1
        There were reports that Ukraine was buying 30 armored boats. There will be something to force the Dnieper
    3. Mikhail Ya2
      Mikhail Ya2 11 November 2022 08: 34
      +3
      Was it a boy? Maybe there was no contract? From the Ukrainian side, and from the Russian side, it has never been said that there are at least some obligations from that side.
      1. perun1988
        perun1988 11 November 2022 09: 48
        +3
        Now only a few have contracts in their imagination to justify themselves. If the agreements were in reality, we will definitely not know about them.
    4. solar
      solar 11 November 2022 11: 50
      +3
      on fictitious agreements ...
      There is no evidence that he took place.
  2. Dimy4
    Dimy4 11 November 2022 06: 30
    +14
    Our supreme genius, where are you? Withdraw troops immediately beyond the Urals, the guns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will definitely not get there ... for now, at least.
    1. freddyk
      freddyk 11 November 2022 07: 08
      +7
      Quote: Dimy4
      Our supreme genius, where are you? Withdraw troops immediately beyond the Urals

      This will be one of the requirements in the negotiations. Ukrainians have already talked about this.
  3. Belisarius
    Belisarius 11 November 2022 06: 31
    +10
    Everything is as usual - we thought that it would not get worse, but they knocked from below ......
    The agreement failed again ... The partners again deceived the authorities of the Russian Federation. And this is how the military correspondents write, the enemy "treacherously" shoots in the back instead of decorously and nobly letting the Russian troops leave ...
    Now it remains only to hope that it will be possible to at least save some of the people and prevent the appearance of a large number of prisoners
  4. coinsam
    coinsam 11 November 2022 06: 31
    -2
    So in the end, what is the result of these strikes?
    1. Belisarius
      Belisarius 11 November 2022 06: 37
      +5
      Quote from monetam
      So in the end, what is the result of these strikes?

      Well, what do you think? What is the result of strikes on targeted crossings?
      Killed, wounded, abandoned and burned equipment. Thank God if it was possible to transport the remaining fighters. Blows also went on the left bank
      1. coinsam
        coinsam 11 November 2022 06: 47
        +2
        I think that information should be given by eyewitnesses, or people who should know it from eyewitnesses.
        1. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 11 November 2022 09: 46
          +2
          Well, wouldn't you take advantage of such an opportunity to hit the enemy when he is not very able to respond? Retreat is the most difficult type of database maintenance.
  5. Klaus8691
    Klaus8691 11 November 2022 06: 33
    +11
    Well, what do we want? So that they see us off with flowers? For them, this is a war with the enemy to the bitter end. With what price is another matter, but before victory. And what our leadership needs in this situation - everything is covered in darkness ...
  6. g_ae
    g_ae 11 November 2022 06: 36
    +18
    And what? Was it possible? It turns out that you can hit the bridges across the Dnieper in order to disrupt the logistics? Yes, I don't believe it! This is the newest word in military affairs, but the guys in the General Staff don’t know!
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 07: 38
      -8
      depending on what to hit, our artillery doesn’t reach the bridges, but they get it
      1. g_ae
        g_ae 11 November 2022 07: 50
        +9
        We don't have enough artillery. It's just that someone does not have enough brains, but someone has a conscience. More precisely, completely absent.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 08: 33
          -5
          then they do the right thing by folding their
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 November 2022 06: 40
    +7
    rocket strikes were not only against Russian troops, but also against civilians
    But is it surprising? Why don’t the Armed Forces suddenly use this opportunity and will not strike? They will be at every opportunity, and even more so for the civilian population in order to sow fear, panic, to show that the Russian army cannot protect them. As they say, two in one - and causing as much damage as possible and a propaganda move.
    1. vitvit123
      vitvit123 11 November 2022 06: 44
      0
      Yes, no one denied the opportunity for the Armed Forces to strike at the retreating ones, many hoped that ours would at least once again somehow agree on an ironclad basis .. such a chic exchange, we give them a strategic retreat .., but the Ukrainians are great, they do everything right ..
  8. Dmitrii
    Dmitrii 11 November 2022 06: 40
    -1
    We'll see what it all leads to ... We still can't influence these "difficult decisions".
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 11 November 2022 07: 55
      -2
      Quote from Dmitry
      We still have no influence on these "difficult decisions".

      I'm sure we influence all these "difficult decisions". The public mood is very subtly scanned by our chiefs ... They can’t get the situation - the tops cannot, the bottoms don’t want - a nightmare of any government ... They probe moods, scan the mood of society ...
  9. Li17
    Li17 11 November 2022 06: 41
    -1
    So it seems that we have already withdrawn everyone and are starting to regroup the troops? As usual readiness on paper and victory in the brave reports of Konoshenkov!
    By the way, I recently talked with a friend from Belarus, distant relatives of acquaintances came from Ukraine. The most curious thing is that those who were waiting for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and met the liberators from Russia ... began to disappear and all that! Those. a purely Stalinist approach, who was in occupation received the stigma of a prisoner and problems in the future! Looks waiting and rushed! So they thrashed not according to civilians in their understanding.
    1. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 11 November 2022 09: 49
      0
      You just don’t have to talk nonsense about those who were in the occupation, where does this nonsense come from? Even the Vlasovites, who fled to the West and were extradited to the USSR with serious terms and execution, were punished by 15%. The rest were deprived of their rights, they could not choose and be elected and a certain place of residence.
      1. Li17
        Li17 11 November 2022 15: 23
        0
        Quote: Alexander Salenko
        Even the Vlasovites, who fled to the West and were extradited to the USSR with serious terms and execution, were punished by 15%. The rest were deprived of their rights, they could not choose and be elected and a certain place of residence.

        I willingly believe that recently some finally were sent to a resort in Turkey. And one painted sadist was released! And the mercenaries sentenced to death were sent home! It’s good that at least without awards, although Abramovich may have presented commemorative signs!
  10. km-21
    km-21 11 November 2022 06: 42
    -11
    I have always affirmed and continue to affirm. Until Russia begins to strike at NATO territory, demonstrating its readiness to go all the way, the West will put pressure on Russia with all the means at its disposal in any situation and at every opportunity, up to the complete destruction of our country.

    If we are at war with NATO, then NATO members must feel the power of our blows in their own skin. Otherwise, they have every reason to understand that Russia is not capable of defending itself against them. And then they will kill us.
    1. U-58
      U-58 11 November 2022 06: 57
      +6
      What about NATO!
      At the decision-making center in Kyiv, at least gasp!
      No way.
      So what are our future plans???
    2. Lykases1
      Lykases1 11 November 2022 07: 16
      +4
      Sorry if I hurt your patriotic feelings, but if NATO fought against us, the war would be over by now.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 07: 39
        -3
        if you didn’t support NATO, then Ukraine would no longer exist
        1. Mikhail Ya2
          Mikhail Ya2 11 November 2022 08: 43
          0
          This means a complete failure of intelligence and military and political analytics, since they did not calculate such a possibility
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 08: 59
            0
            this is the main miscalculation, they thought that a trifle would throw up like 1000 javelins and calm down
            1. stelltok
              stelltok 11 November 2022 09: 16
              0
              Or they thought that the CIS, the CSTO would help. And the CIS, the CSTO .... well, you understand
            2. Mikhail Ya2
              Mikhail Ya2 11 November 2022 09: 20
              0
              And if NATO decided to transfer tanks and aircraft? Then it would be a complete failure.
              1. Nastia makarova
                Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 09: 26
                0
                it’s not evening yet, but they already transferred more than 600 tanks
        2. hector
          hector 11 November 2022 10: 05
          0
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          if you didn’t support NATO, then Ukraine would no longer exist

          If yes, if only, then beans would grow in the mouth.
        3. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 11 November 2022 17: 53
          0
          if you didn’t support NATO, then Ukraine would no longer exist
          Here, now look what would happen if the entire NATO bloc was involved with all their military-industrial complex, and not with metered arms deliveries and a certain number of ideological mercenaries.
    3. Alexandr2637
      Alexandr2637 11 November 2022 07: 40
      +3
      If we are at war with NATO

      What are we fighting with NATO? Come to your senses! We haven't started yet.
      After a while (while we are chewing the snot), if the Khokhls are supplied with modern tanks and planes, air defense, soldiers will be trained ... Then how will we start !!! (I'm even afraid to imagine where ours will be thrown back).
    4. hector
      hector 11 November 2022 10: 04
      0
      Quote: km-21
      If we are at war with NATO, then NATO members must feel the power of our blows in their own skin.

      Yes, how can you think like that about expensive partners? Unfortunately, we demonstrate mainly power and not power
  11. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 11 November 2022 06: 50
    +14
    Impotent in the Kremlin put on notice? This war showed all the rot of power! And everyone laughed at Arestovich's forecasts!
  12. U-58
    U-58 11 November 2022 06: 54
    0
    All repeats.
    On the dance floor forty-first year ....
    And what to expect from these ghouls?
    We ourselves gave them the opportunity to frolic from the heart.
    What we sow, we will reap.
  13. Dartanian
    Dartanian 11 November 2022 06: 56
    +1
    This was to be expected. The clown has not been Zelensky for a long time, the jester is sitting with us and not alone, but touring with a whole circus
    1. Alexandr2637
      Alexandr2637 11 November 2022 07: 32
      -2
      the jester sits with us and not alone, but tours with a whole circus

      Absolutely agree. And this jester is also a traitor! But rather "a mishandled Cossack". A protege of EBN, a student of Sobchak, etc. ... And we will not see victory while THEY are at the helm.
  14. Passer
    Passer 11 November 2022 06: 56
    +4
    Something is not entirely clear: who is "regrouping to more advantageous positions"? Ours or the Armed Forces?
  15. carpenter
    carpenter 11 November 2022 07: 01
    0
    a few hours ago, the Ukrainian military used the American universal HIMARS missile systems to strike at the area of ​​​​the Antonovsky bridge

    I have one question - "Russian troops mined the Antonovsky bridge and will it be blown up?"
    Because on this bridge, after entering Kherson, the Nazis will supply weapons and supplies to the front.
  16. tatra
    tatra 11 November 2022 07: 01
    -2
    Maybe it was necessary to first withdraw the main Russian military units and equipment, and then announce a "goodwill gesture", as Putin said yesterday?
  17. carpenter
    carpenter 11 November 2022 07: 05
    -1
    in the Ukrainian military command, they are already drawing out the lines of approach for the Haimars MLRS missiles to the Crimea, noting that now the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have the opportunity to directly strike at the territory of the Crimean peninsula.

    And so the surprise was formed. In this case, you need an answer in Kyiv.
    1. Alexandr2637
      Alexandr2637 11 November 2022 07: 34
      -1
      And so the surprise was formed. In this case, you need an answer in Kyiv.

      Needed, but not available.
  18. freddyk
    freddyk 11 November 2022 07: 12
    -5
    Quote from Dmitry
    Let's see where it all leads

    General Surovikin will shoot himself, because he took responsibility
  19. Two
    Two 11 November 2022 07: 17
    0
    hi Star boys rule! Leaning obsequiously and reverently breathing into the reindeer herder's ear, they whisper to him about solving their obviously acute problems! When will this farce end?
  20. Vladlxh
    Vladlxh 11 November 2022 07: 22
    0
    Did anyone have such illusions?
  21. navigator777
    navigator777 11 November 2022 07: 23
    -2
    Betrayal is always a "hard decision" ....
  22. Mechanictrak
    Mechanictrak 11 November 2022 07: 24
    +1
    It turns out that our air defense is powerless against the NATO missile defense system!
    Since the crossing area, and even more so the bridge, in this situation should be covered by at least a dozen different air defense systems. And the rockets fly quietly.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 11 November 2022 07: 40
      -2
      smoke the textbook, read the info and don't write nonsense
      1. Mechanictrak
        Mechanictrak 11 November 2022 08: 48
        -1
        And you think that according to the textbook, one with 200 should be left for cover and all the rules are covered. Fight according to textbooks
  23. hellcos
    hellcos 11 November 2022 07: 39
    0
    The "alarmists" at the beginning of the NWO turned out to be right - they could not achieve their goals with the available means. Now only a shameful world awaits us. These attacks on the retreating already look like a mockery, we can’t even competently hide behind. It's all sad
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 11 November 2022 08: 21
      +3
      It is sad that in February, many enthusiastically supported their grandfather with his crazy proposal to capture the Outskirts

      Grandfather is certainly to blame, because he then had to understand the real state of the army. And the situation in Ukraine, that no one is waiting for him there

      The rest are to blame for letting their grandfather sit for 22 years until he went crazy, and began to make such decisions.

      And do not blame the stupefying effect of propaganda. Propaganda is originally designed for stupid
  24. al3x
    al3x 11 November 2022 08: 15
    +1
    You can not criticize - article. Perhaps you need to rejoice and dance the whole country? All the same, the authorities deftly fenced themselves off from the people, adopting a number of laws before the start of the operation by the country and tightening the existing ones. There was good experience with the constitution ... Why the hell was it all started? What would be a liquid guess?
  25. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 11 November 2022 08: 18
    0
    The author should not have rushed to spread the material. And commentators could wait. So that you don't look funny.
  26. Viktor29
    Viktor29 11 November 2022 08: 25
    +1
    There was no agreement and the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no obligation to fulfill promises that they did not give us. The prayer of M Zakharova remained unheeded.
    The crossing near the Antonovsky bridge is auxiliary, there is a fully functioning passage at the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station. After the publication of satellite images, Putin, Surovikin, Shoigu turned out to be arrogant liars and cowards, fooling the population of the Russian Federation with an unintelligible "undermining the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station" with a "catastrophe for a week", having practically no funds to carry out such an undermining.
    Surely they are not hitting the bridge, but the accumulation of equipment near the bridge, because it is slow.
    1. OlesyaiLesya
      OlesyaiLesya 11 November 2022 09: 02
      -5
      ALL? Speak out or work? .......
      1. Viktor29
        Viktor29 11 November 2022 09: 11
        +3
        He objected to the rest that there was no agreement, and what's wrong - do you have data on the time and the persons who participated in the negotiations?
        Satellite images about lies that are not interesting for you are here:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Bg_3-UVyI
        1. Mikhail Ya2
          Mikhail Ya2 11 November 2022 09: 23
          -1
          It’s just that if we consider all defeats as an agreement, then the pill of defeat is not so bitter, but leaving the right bank is a military defeat
  27. perun1988
    perun1988 11 November 2022 09: 43
    -1
    Calmly, as long as there is no war: "Why did Surovikin decide not to arrange "Stalingrad-2" near Kherson."
  28. digger
    digger 11 November 2022 10: 00
    -1
    what do the commanders of the crews of these Highmars ... and the whole crew is most likely Americans. So ....... survived .... emotions over the edge ...... there are not enough mats ......
  29. Bagatur
    Bagatur 11 November 2022 10: 56
    +1
    What did the Russian Armed Forces do if the Ukrainians retreated? Rvzee not bombed?
  30. vovochkarzhevsky
    vovochkarzhevsky 11 November 2022 12: 51
    0
    I talked about this yesterday.

    Now for the current situation. Retreat from flight differ from each other in the speed of movement. The retreat behind a large water barrier is generally trash.
    I do not want to be a bad seer, but big losses cannot be avoided. All military science speaks of this, for troops are folded up, crowded together, and are transformed from striking power into a goal.
    That is why the Red Army / KA held the bridgeheads with all their might, because the supply of these under fire incurs fewer losses than the evacuation under the same fire of their own troops, especially when there is a thin rearguard in cover.


    And actually, no foresight, the usual logic of hostilities, let the enemy concentrate in the crossing areas, and then strike. request
  31. Li17
    Li17 11 November 2022 15: 32
    0
    Quote: lithium17
    You just don’t have to talk nonsense about those who were in the occupation

    The grandfather on the line of his wife, for being in occupation, was drafted into the army after his release. I personally looked at the documents, served in a security company, according to him, awards did not apply to them! Well, in my profiles there was a column about relatives, they were not captured ... In my autobiography, I also indicated such nonsense!
  32. Alexey_Kalashnikov
    Alexey_Kalashnikov 11 November 2022 15: 51
    -2
    Quote: Santa Fe
    It is sad that in February, many enthusiastically supported their grandfather with his crazy proposal to capture the Outskirts

    Grandfather is certainly to blame, because he then had to understand the real state of the army. And the situation in Ukraine, that no one is waiting for him there

    The rest are to blame for letting their grandfather sit for 22 years until he went crazy, and began to make such decisions.

    And do not blame the stupefying effect of propaganda. Propaganda is originally designed for stupid

    Yes everything is correct. He became a star and went crazy from court flattery. Nobody can stand it. I have never voted for Putin. Let's not forget he is Yeltsin's henchman. And a lot of people haven't voted for him yet. And now in general for him a pipe. But Pafilova's CEC will draw any percentage. We don't have the tools to send him into retirement and into court. The guys at the front have tools.
  33. air wolf
    air wolf 12 November 2022 09: 27
    +1
    Stop writing nonsense, this is not VSU, not VFU, but Bandera!