The President of Serbia said that the decision of the Russian command to leave Kherson came as a surprise to him

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The President of Serbia said that the decision of the Russian command to leave Kherson came as a surprise to him

Since early this morning, Ukrainian troops have entered at least 7 settlements in the Kherson and Nikolaev regions, after they were abandoned by Russian servicemen who retreated beyond the Dnieper. In particular, Snigirevka came under the control of the enemy, in the area of ​​​​which fierce battles were going on yesterday morning, and after local battles, by the way, won by the RF Armed Forces, Russian troops received an order from the command to retreat.

Statements are being circulated in Ukrainian public pages, on the one hand, that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are still afraid to approach Kherson, and, on the other hand, that the first units of the Ukrainian army may enter the city before the morning of November 11.



Against this background, the statement of Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic regarding the decision of the Russian command to leave the right bank of the Kherson region, along with, in fact, Kherson itself, attracts attention.

The Serbian President, during negotiations with his French counterpart Emmanuel Macron, said that the decision of the Russian command to leave Kherson came as a complete surprise to him.

Vucic:

I must admit that I was wrong in my predictions, saying earlier that the Russian army would defend Kherson with all its might. I thought that there they would put up strong resistance.

The President of Serbia, continuing his commentary on the current situation, said that in any case, "you need to understand that in Serbia, militarily, you need to take care of yourself." According to Aleksandar Vučić, this is the only way to maintain its military neutrality and protect the interests of Serbia.

Vučić's latest statements are perceived in such a way that now one cannot rely on anyone, nor any allies and partners, but it is worth taking care of one's own security.
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  1. +81
    10 November 2022 20: 29
    The President of Serbia said that the decision of the Russian command to leave Kherson came as a surprise to him


    To be honest, he's not alone in this.
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    2. +43
      10 November 2022 20: 39
      Yes, what is there in Serbia, here the same majority is confused. And as for those who remained and simply did not understand what happened.
      1. +23
        10 November 2022 21: 07
        Quote from Mitos
        Yes, what is there in Serbia, here the same majority is confused. And as for those who remained and simply did not understand what happened.

        What happened ... "brilliant" reshuffle. The judo master outplayed himself.
        1. +10
          11 November 2022 00: 03
          The President of Serbia, continuing his commentary on the current situation, said that in any case, "you need to understand that in Serbia, militarily, you need to take care of yourself."

          Or "we do not count on Russia's military assistance." Sadly.
      2. +21
        10 November 2022 22: 26
        It seems that even Ukraine and the United States are confused. In, as we have them.
        1. +2
          11 November 2022 01: 30
          The President of Serbia said that the decision of the Russian command to leave Kherson came as a surprise to him
          And before that, he said that Kherson for us is listed as Stalingrad! They surrendered Stalingrad to the Germans .... am
          1. +1
            11 November 2022 03: 40
            ... Kherson for us is listed as Stalingrad!

            We need to urgently change. It's not Stalingrad, it's just, say, Minsk.
            If they reach Moscow, then yes, we have a historical habit on these frontiers!
            Let's lure into the depths, and there ...
            1. +1
              11 November 2022 04: 58
              Quote from tsvetahaki
              We need to urgently change.

              "I take off my shoes, then I put on my shoes,
              I admire myself in the water "....
              V. Vysotsky
    3. +50
      10 November 2022 20: 46
      Yes, even the Ukrainians did not expect such a bold step. They didn’t think that the Russian command would choose a shame larger than Khasavyurt
      1. +36
        10 November 2022 21: 01
        a shame larger than Khasavyurt
        Someone likes to remember the shameful Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. So here he decided to surpass all the figures of the past
        1. +18
          10 November 2022 21: 58
          The Brest peace is not so obscene. Lenin foresaw everything: you can at least promise the Moon to the Germans, you won’t have to fulfill the conditions. And it was not necessary - Germany was covered. And the Bolsheviks threw more firewood and almost did not establish Soviet power in Germany. Almost didn't work out.
          1. +23
            10 November 2022 22: 06
            Quite right. The young Soviet government needed a breather. But what the current one needs, with such a term of government, is a mystery ...
            1. 0
              11 November 2022 00: 12
              Quote from alexoff
              They didn’t think that the Russian command would choose a shame larger than Khasavyurt

              By the way, the new Khasavyurt (or Minsk-3) has not yet happened and God forbid it will not happen. Hope dies last.
          2. -5
            11 November 2022 01: 36
            Lenin predicted everything

            Another multiplayer lover. It is good that the Entente allies kept their word and took into account the interests of Russia, and the Brest Peace was canceled, as it was not, and Germany was forced to pay indemnity to Russia. Although Russia concluded a separate peace with the Germans, contrary to agreements with the allies.
            1. 0
              11 November 2022 10: 22
              That's what you said nonsense, honestly. Before that, there were normal comments. Read the Entente agreement with Wrangel, who promised 5 annual budgets of the Republic of Ingushetia for 1913, and how did the British pump Baku oil to recall? Lenin, in response to claims for tsarist debts and the debts of the VP, put forward a counter-claim for intervention.
        2. +9
          10 November 2022 23: 14
          Quote: Gardamir
          ....Someone likes to remember the shameful peace of Brest-Litovsk. .....

          Ara! And at the same time to scold the Bolsheviks, not remembering that complete devastation of that time, that famine ....
          And now the Bolsheviks have been gone for a very long time.
          1. +2
            11 November 2022 03: 26
            History has shown that Russia came out victorious and survived, albeit under the name of the USSR. But whether the Russian Federation will come out after the policy of appeasement is still unknown.
            1. 0
              11 November 2022 13: 29
              Quote: Glock-17
              History has shown that Russia came out victorious and survived .......

              This happened because the Bolsheviks "took power", but not only. They also took RESPONSIBILITY for the country and what is happening in it. What they could not do and did not want --- Nicholas2 and the Provisional Government
        3. +4
          10 November 2022 23: 31
          In a while, they will announce that our frozen reserves in Europe fell into the cauldron, it will not work to return them, it’s a pity, let them take them away for the restoration of Ukraine. Such a cunning plan - they will fix everything, and then we will take a new one. At the same time, Europe, as it were, will not brazenly steal money, but we will give it back ourselves, which means you can invest in EU bonds. Everyone is happy, well, except for us, but who cares about us?
          1. 0
            11 November 2022 08: 03
            Quote from alexoff
            In a while, they will announce that our frozen reserves in Europe fell into the cauldron, it will not work to return them, it’s a pity, let them take them away for the restoration of Ukraine.

            No . Not this way . I'm sure our three hundred billion were given to the Americans in the form of compensation, why don't you interfere, and we will deal with the Svidoukra ... Commerce .... Abramovichi ... in power.
    4. +2
      11 November 2022 01: 54
      It's a cunning plan.
      This is not a retreat, but a regrouping.

      Everything is going according to plan, for more than 8 months in a row.

      PS Strelkov said that already 300.000 mobiles are not enough. This is only 1 wave of mobilization. More will be mobilized.
      Looks like Strelkov is right again.
      1. -1
        11 November 2022 08: 10
        even to me, who is absolutely far from the army, it is clear that more troops are needed for decisive offensives (and the people would support large-scale mobilization), but no one was going to attack the campaign.
  2. +6
    10 November 2022 20: 37
    Well, I expected, but I thought that at least they would fight. And thought not so fast
    1. +25
      10 November 2022 20: 46
      I am naivete. I thought when Shoigu agreed to hand over Kherson, now the FSB officers will burst in and throw him into the isolation ward for violating the constitution). Like a performance to remove Shoigu. But no performance turns out to be different)
      1. +11
        10 November 2022 20: 57
        Quote: Damir Shamaev
        I thought when Shoigu agreed to hand over Kherson, now the FSB officers will burst in and throw him into the isolation ward for violating the constitution)
        By the way. I voted for this amendment. It is impossible to alienate
        1. +15
          10 November 2022 21: 37
          Quote: Tusv
          By the way. I voted for this amendment. It is impossible to alienate

          So, don't alienate laughing.
          For some reason, everyone forgets that in our country the guarantor and a certain circle of people are ABOVE the law for life, and therefore are not subject to jurisdiction in any way request
        2. +5
          10 November 2022 22: 55
          I voted for this amendment. It is impossible to alienate


          Naive .. you voted for the eternal kingdom of one person .. What was then repeatedly mentioned by many !!
          Everything else was initially ridiculous to take seriously ..
      2. +2
        11 November 2022 00: 17
        Damir, which FSB?
        He will be hanged the second star of the Hero of Russia as the "chief peacemaker" ....
  3. +9
    10 November 2022 20: 41
    it was not a surprise to everyone that the military spirit of the Ukrainians is raised to be in charge! Yes, and Erdogan used to say that ports in Nikolaev are needed for grain! Now, at least think about what it was!
    1. +12
      10 November 2022 20: 48
      The cunning plan is to raise Biden's rating so that with this victory he can blur the stuffing in the elections.
    2. +33
      10 November 2022 21: 01
      Now, at least think about what it was!
      What's there to think about? Business and nothing personal. The bourgeoisie has no nationality. The international bourgeoisie divides peoples into nationalities and sets them against each other for their interests. During the world wars, the bourgeoisie of the belligerents did not become poorer.
      1. -2
        10 November 2022 21: 18
        I think this is an overly simplified picture of the world.
        1. +7
          10 November 2022 21: 44
          this is the "skeleton and brain" of the modern world, and where do you place it on it, "muscles, tendons, blood vessels, etc." - will change the appearance and form, some principles of functioning, but will not change the inner essence in any way ...
      2. 0
        11 November 2022 10: 25
        I can’t help but upvote, and from the very beginning, the NWO did not cut off the energy sector in Ukraine because “respectable” people are spinning money there.
  4. +18
    10 November 2022 20: 44
    So it is, the Serbs can only rely on themselves! Unfortunately for us ....
    1. +9
      10 November 2022 21: 39
      "We do not hand over our own" now, it seems, should be understood as "we do not hand over our own to the board."
  5. +22
    10 November 2022 20: 45
    Everything in the world is a### from what is happening in Kherson. Ukrainians are so in this state that they are afraid to approach .. they are digging fortifications in Crimea, they will retreat to Simferopol
    1. +8
      10 November 2022 22: 09
      Ukrainians are not afraid to enter Kherson, but simply comply with the terms of the agreement, that's all!
      1. +3
        10 November 2022 23: 01
        Quote: vitvit123
        Ukrainians are not afraid to enter Kherson, but simply comply with the terms of the agreement, that's all!

        But it seems so.
    2. 0
      11 November 2022 10: 27
      Simferopol is in a pit, it’s not very convenient to defend it, I live in this Simferopol and rocks surround me left and right. Few people are interested in what is happening with the Crimeans and what kind of internal massacre will begin here.
  6. +19
    10 November 2022 20: 45
    Quote: Vucic
    I was wrong in my predictions, saying earlier that the Russian army would defend Kherson with all its might.

    Such a bullshit, Sasha. But not only you - we're all crazy here.
  7. +23
    10 November 2022 20: 47
    Well, on the other hand, the accounts of the embassy in the USA were unblocked and Pavlovka was taken, maybe even Igor Medvedev will receive a visa to the USA back
    1. +5
      10 November 2022 21: 42
      Quote from alexoff
      Well, on the other hand, the accounts of the embassy in the USA were unblocked and Pavlovka was taken, maybe even Igor Medvedev will receive a visa to the USA back

      I would like to see the whole price list or menu.
      1. +2
        10 November 2022 23: 05
        The caring Russian state protects you from a heart attack, and therefore hides the menu. Most likely, only the price list is in writing, the menu was traditionally voiced verbally, so that the client would not swear at the establishment later.
  8. +10
    10 November 2022 20: 47
    Not only for him. The army was greatly weakened under Yeltsin and his successor Putin.
  9. +18
    10 November 2022 20: 49
    So I think, where are our hundreds of planes, helicopters, tanks? Which would demolish this offensive Khokhl to dust. How can you not see and not destroy such an amount of the enemy. Looks like a real deal. We just give everything away, and then we try to return it with the blood of our guys. Or it's time to draw org conclusions, and with prison terms
    1. +19
      10 November 2022 20: 58
      Will you draw your own conclusions? =))) I am always touched by such statements - It is necessary to do, it is necessary to imprison, it is necessary to shoot, etc. In the end, all this is chatter in the kitchen and nothing more!
      I personally realized a long time ago that at the top, everyone doesn’t care about people, frankly, they don’t care. Both for new citizens and for our own.
    2. +10
      10 November 2022 20: 59
      And we had them Everything is only on paper at parades and at various ostentatious biathlons. Now, in a real war, you have to make up for everything.
    3. +14
      10 November 2022 21: 03
      and where are our hundreds of planes, helicopters, tanks?
      optimized
      1. +13
        10 November 2022 21: 47
        Here, at 419 ARZ, they are also waiting for optimization.
    4. +3
      10 November 2022 21: 33
      Quote: pexotinec
      Or it's time to draw org conclusions, and with prison terms

      - And what follows from this?
      - You must live! Sew a criminal case and chintz robes!
      “Do you think they will all sit down?”
      “I believe that all this should be sewn!”
      (my free interpretation of the famous song)))
    5. +10
      10 November 2022 21: 41
      Quote: pexotinec
      We just give everything, and then with the blood of our guys we try to return

      Yes, no one will return anything. Events are developing very quickly. Everything will end with resignation and "demilitarized zones". After such a deafening drape, the army is unlikely to find the strength to fight for territories that will merge anyway.
      NATO's redeployment is assuming "Overlord" proportions. Borrell has already attended to urgently establish a transport network for the transfer of troops.
      1. +4
        11 November 2022 01: 40
        Quote: samarin1969
        Yes, no one will return anything.

        This is a new strategy for demilitarization and denazification by the surrender of Russian cities! negative
  10. -4
    10 November 2022 20: 49
    And from whom was Serbia going to defend itself?
    1. +15
      10 November 2022 21: 47
      Quote: Normann
      And from whom was Serbia going to defend itself?

      From whomever it is going, the main thing is that trust in Russia has once again been undermined.
  11. MMX
    +11
    10 November 2022 20: 50
    I must admit that I was wrong in my predictions, saying earlier that the Russian army would defend Kherson with all its might. I thought that there they would put up strong resistance.


    1. Tim
      +33
      10 November 2022 20: 56
      I look at this face and understand how he threw the Russian people! There are no words, only mats.
      1. 0
        11 November 2022 21: 56
        There, Botox seems to have eaten into the brain so much that it smoothed out the convolutions ...
  12. -12
    10 November 2022 20: 51
    What an interesting submission of articles on VO, for commentators. bully
    1. +7
      10 November 2022 21: 03
      hi Yes class. there is a place to talk. otherwise you’re bored in retirement, So at least you’ll talk with smart people, maybe you’ll find out something new and express your opinion and no one will give you gas for it laughing
      1. 0
        10 November 2022 21: 51
        And before the Internet, in the USSR there was a place for communication, a pub. It’s not for nothing that in Murmansk they called it a “scuffle”. So I would have said which house, entrance, floor. The client pays.
    2. -9
      10 November 2022 21: 44
      Quote: tralflot1832
      What an interesting submission of articles on

      Yeah. "Nothing personal just business"...
    3. +14
      10 November 2022 21: 55
      Quote: tralflot1832
      What an interesting submission of articles on VO, for commentators. bully




      Nothing, there will be a holiday on your street, now they will throw an article on how "Europe is freezing" and you can again throw slogans and collect plus signs with your comrades. By the way, your company was not there yesterday.
      1. -11
        10 November 2022 22: 00
        I haven’t been drowning something lately that Europe will freeze. But heating will rise in price. And here you arrange a get-together at VO.
      2. +1
        11 November 2022 10: 34
        And I'm without training manuals and not even from Russia. We are also shocked by what is happening here. We are worried, of course. But the whole discussion on VO has already turned into a complete srach. The most interesting thing is that when the Russians were standing near Kyiv, nowhere and no one in Ukrainian publics poured mud on the military leadership of their country. Maybe that's why they are now in Kherson, and you are all here at VO.
  13. +8
    10 November 2022 20: 55
    “You need to understand that in Serbia, militarily, you need to take care of yourself.”
    Yeah.. rely on yourself. The Russian people together with the Serbian people, which cannot be said about ...
  14. +20
    10 November 2022 20: 55
    “You need to understand that in Serbia, militarily, you need to take care of yourself.” You understood everything correctly Alexander, I feel here too, there is no one to rely on in this. The United States, like a rocket for 300 km, is supplying the Ghouls, so it will start soon! We will not shoot at their cities, otherwise how can we look our partners in the eye!
    1. +6
      10 November 2022 22: 16
      But how can you shoot at their cities! There are people there! But when they are according to ours, then the Russians, maybe they won’t have to pay pensions, and something else.
  15. +2
    10 November 2022 20: 56
    If he knew how we are about ...... and from this decision!
    1. 0
      11 November 2022 10: 32
      I think that he roughly guesses, and this concerns him directly, the Kosovars are now completely overwhelmed.
  16. +29
    10 November 2022 21: 00
    Yes, here, to put it mildly, everyone is in a state of knowing the emotional component of a plant called horseradish. Shariy walked very well on this topic, I don’t watch it all the time, but here, in general, I agree with him 100% - it all looks like a betrayal of the motherland by all top officials, including himself. Especially delivered about the difficulty of supply))) Well, whatever one may say, it is very difficult for those who do not know how and do not want to, but like to receive money while sitting in the general's chair. The supply situation, according to underexperts, is so sad that the supply of besieged Leningrad is probably a kindergarten.
  17. +31
    10 November 2022 21: 05
    The State Duma of the Russian Federation voted today against the proposal to request information from the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff "on the strategic plan to leave the bridgehead on the right bank of the Dnieper River and the regional center of the Kherson region of the Russian Federation without a fight instead of creating conditions for expanding the bridgehead and protecting against fire damage along the crossings and directly along Kherson ".

    Such an initiative was made by communist deputies Alexei Kurinny, Nikolai Kolomeitsev and Yevgeny Bessonov, a PolitNavigator correspondent reports.

    “According to our assessment, the abandonment of Kherson will allow the enemy to go directly to the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, to discharge the water of the Kakhovka reservoir and force the Russian Armed Forces to move 30-40 km from the water’s edge of the left bank of the Dnieper without a fight, to create conditions for fire destruction of the land corridor to the Crimea deprive the Zaporozhye NPP of safe operation by lowering the water level and stop the supply of water through the Crimean Canal to the Republic of Crimea, thus creating conditions for the further withdrawal of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the withdrawal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine directly to the territory of the Republic of Crimea with the possible occupation of its territory by Ukraine”, - says the text of the protocol instruction proposed by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

    61 deputies voted for him, 193 were against.

    ““United Russia” is not interested in the problem of surrendering the territory to Russia? She habitually used her favorite trick - she did not vote with almost the entire composition of the faction. Only four "United Russia" found the courage to support our initiative. I would even like to mention them separately. These are deputies Bessarabov, Valuev, Sholokhov and Gadzhiev. Like this. The rest of the seemingly opposition factions also decided not to vote on such an important issue for the country. Neither the Liberal Democratic Party nor the New People are interested in information on the surrender of Kherson. Even the SRHR (with the exception of two abstentions) did not vote. There was Kherson - and it is not. United Russia and the diverse cardboard opposition are not very worried about this, ”deputy Sergey Obukhov is indignant in his TG channel.
    1. -12
      10 November 2022 21: 49
      Quote: azkolt
      request from the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff information "on the strategic plan to leave without a fight

      It would be foolish to tell the strategic plan (if any) to four hundred professional balabols. It's easier to tell Arestovich directly. At least there will be a chance that he will distort everything out of habit when he reports to the authorities. So this initiative of the current communists is just cheap PR.
      1. +3
        10 November 2022 23: 11
        Arestovich was told the campaign back in June when he announced that after Lisichansk not a single city would be surrendered. That's how it happened for some reason. Therefore, Pavlovka was taken by the forces of two divisions, but Uglegorsk was not taken - nizya, the city!
      2. 0
        12 November 2022 16: 12
        Do you seriously think that there is some kind of strategic plan in this?)))) Leaving Kherson and leaving the strategic foothold is a strategy (sorry) of flight! And in any case, the Moscow Region must answer to these "talkers", this is how it is done all over the world. They keep the answer otherwise it breeds impunity. I turn back what I want and I don’t keep an answer. After all, they won’t ask why they left, but they should ask, in my opinion, how it happened that the army was preparing for war for 8 years, but was not ready. Can you list the problems? Why did only the 20th army turn out to be essentially ready, while the rest were not. Why are those who made these miscalculations not punished? Why weren't they replaced by Teplinsky and Ivanaev? By the way, it seems Prigozhin asked, and who captured this bridgehead on the right bank of the Dnieper, so it seems that Surovikin commanded the Southern Group, although I could be wrong.
        1. 0
          12 November 2022 19: 29
          Quote: azkolt
          Do you seriously think that there is some kind of strategic intent in this?

          Quote: Lesovik
          strategic intent (if any)

          In general, I just expressed my opinion about the deputy's initiative.
          1. 0
            13 November 2022 11: 08
            What's wrong with this initiative? The text of your comment is too short and so on...
            1. 0
              13 November 2022 11: 11
              Quote: azkolt
              What's wrong with this initiative?

              Quote: Lesovik
              It would be foolish to tell the strategic plan (if any) to four hundred professional balabols. It's easier to tell Arestovich directly. At least there will be a chance that he will distort everything out of habit when he reports to the authorities. So this initiative of the current communists is just cheap PR.
              1. 0
                13 November 2022 12: 42
                I repeat the question, do you seriously think that there is some kind of strategic intent in this?)))) Leaving Kherson and leaving the strategic foothold is a strategy (sorry) of flight! And the Duma was created precisely for this purpose, in order to pass laws and listen to the reports of people vested in power and paraffinized. And again I repeat, do you think that the army is not accountable? The minister of defense is appointed by the president, but approved by the Duma. And balabols, not balabols, they became such in the system just built by our government. In a world where there is no such thing, the minister would fly off immediately for such things, well, in any case, he would keep the answer.
                1. 0
                  13 November 2022 13: 50
                  Quote: azkolt
                  I repeat the question

                  Are you not reading my comments at all?
                  Quote: Lesovik
                  It would be foolish to tell the strategic intent (if any)
                  1. 0
                    13 November 2022 16: 46
                    And what should I read in your answers, quoting me?)))) Some kind of balabolstvo about deputies - balabalov and that's it. just a transfusion from empty to empty. Are you reading my questions?
                    1. 0
                      13 November 2022 17: 42
                      Quote: azkolt
                      And what should I read in your answers,

                      Mdya ... If you read them, you would not ask again. There you can find answers to your questions in the most accessible way. If you can't understand them, then I can't help you.
                      1. 0
                        13 November 2022 19: 08
                        That's exactly what m-dya,))) I answered your, balabolsky post about the deputies of the balabols and asked you specifically, I repeat for those who are in the armored train Did you see the caps? And there is no need to cite again only my quotes, that I understand that you blurted out without thinking what seems to be happening to you. For an armored train fighter doubly, once again the MO should answer? Or not? Maybe soon they will hand over Belgorod and what to ask them for no reason, because you see the balabol deputies? So far, I see only one balabol here and it's you, as you probably already guessed!
                      2. 0
                        13 November 2022 19: 49
                        Quote: azkolt
                        And no need to cite again only my quotes

                        Yes, I haven’t given you just anyone’s quotes, but you ... stubbornly don’t want to understand a shish. So I repeat once again - in this case, I'm not your doctor.
                        Quote: azkolt
                        So far I see only one balabol here

                        The fact that you finally looked in the mirror is good.
                      3. 0
                        13 November 2022 20: 45
                        You didn’t even read the question in caps, balabol?))) Twisted your ass!)))
                      4. 0
                        13 November 2022 21: 00
                        Quote: azkolt
                        You even

                        Not "you", but "you".
                        Quote: azkolt
                        Twisted his butt!

                        Don't attribute your hobbies to me.
                      5. 0
                        13 November 2022 21: 15
                        Everything is clear with YOU (do you think I owe you with various local clowns?) balabolishka!
                      6. 0
                        13 November 2022 22: 21
                        Quote: azkolt
                        All clear

                        The Govorun bird is smart and quick-witted.
                      7. 0
                        14 November 2022 21: 31
                        This is clearly not about you//////////////////////////////////
                      8. 0
                        14 November 2022 21: 55
                        Naturally, not about me) And why have you already been given light?
                      9. 0
                        15 November 2022 19: 17
                        Quote: Lesovik
                        Quote: azkolt
                        All clear

                        The Govorun bird is smart and quick-witted.


                        Quote: azkolt
                        This is clearly not about you//////////////////////////////////

                        Quote: Lesovik
                        Of course not about me)

                        Yes, you are no different in mind, as well as ingenuity!
                        Go man, go, you're tiring me!
                      10. 0
                        15 November 2022 20: 31
                        Quote: azkolt
                        Yes, you are not smart

                        So I'm not a talking bird) Not like you)
                      11. 0
                        15 November 2022 20: 52
                        You are a bird - balabol!))) ////////////////////////
                      12. 0
                        15 November 2022 21: 10
                        Quote: azkolt
                        You are a balabol bird!

                        Well, in any case, I can’t overdo you)))
    2. +3
      10 November 2022 22: 05
      Quote: azkolt
      This initiative was taken communist deputies Alexey Kurinny, Nikolay Kolomeytsev and Evgeny Bessonov,

      Quote: azkolt
      61 deputies voted for him, 193 were against.

      Quote: azkolt
      Only four "United Russia" found the courage to support our initiative. I would even like to mention them separately. These are deputies Bessarabov, Valuev, Sholokhov and Gadzhiev.

      I quoted parts.
      And now, let those who ignore the elections wrap their snot on their sleeves and keep silent in a rag!
      Those who chose abstentions and those who did not vote - even more so.
    3. -8
      10 November 2022 22: 35
      When there is a war, who among the deputies submitted this request, everyone to the front line! Let them look for the reason there.
      1. +4
        10 November 2022 23: 17
        Quote: tralflot1832
        When there is a war, who among the deputies submitted this request, everyone to the front line! Let them look for the reason there.

        So, they say, the war is not going on, "we have not started yet."
      2. 0
        12 November 2022 16: 15
        I correctly understood that to send those to the front. who made the request, and not those who ignored it?)))) Interesting logic! So you think that everything is fine and you don’t need to be responsible for mistakes, and let those who want to know the reason for leaving Russian lands fight?
    4. +3
      11 November 2022 00: 28
      61 deputies voted for him, 193 were against.

      ““United Russia” is not interested in the problem of surrendering the territory to Russia? She habitually used her favorite trick - she did not vote with almost the entire composition of the faction.

      Then let the Edros party in full force then liberate the territory of the Kherson region.
  18. +10
    10 November 2022 21: 10
    For the majority of Russian citizens, this decision came as a surprise. Unfortunately.
    It seems that the authorities are transferring the population from citizens to those living in this territory.
    Will the population of the territory of the Russian Federation turn from living here into those who choose the government? Don't know. I don't even know for myself.
  19. -4
    10 November 2022 21: 11
    Hold on bro. Let's deal with the birds. And we won't forget you.
  20. -9
    10 November 2022 21: 16
    Serb Vučić, go to NATO already. Rely on yourself there.
  21. -2
    10 November 2022 21: 18
    Vucic, and we are already accustomed to such monevry
  22. +7
    10 November 2022 21: 24
    The decisions of the Russian command are the decisions of President Putin. President Putin's decisions should amaze his subjects and allies (M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin). They are amazing. While everyone is amazed, we are invincible!
  23. +7
    10 November 2022 21: 26
    Russia will lose the allies it has left. His old arms market, etc. After Kyiv, Kharkov and especially Kherson dug their own grave.
  24. +10
    10 November 2022 21: 31
    From such a "maneuver" everyone went crazy, even Ukrainians still do not believe. I think that for a bold and unexpected "maneuver" on a city of the Russian Federation surrendered without a fight, a number of general-strategists will receive a second star of the Hero, and a firefighter will also receive the title of generalisimo.
    1. +3
      10 November 2022 23: 01
      Quote: svit55
      even hoh.ly still do not believe.

      They expected anything but this! And now they are in a stupor. They do not believe - well, how can you be so stupid?
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  26. +10
    10 November 2022 21: 39
    Yes, the Serbs brothers will now think many times that the Russians do not abandon their own, they abandoned their Serbs as well, the main thing is not to upset the partners of the guarantor. In Belarus, now they will also think hard .....
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  28. +3
    10 November 2022 22: 03
    Sun-faced 2015 taught nothing. The outskirts will gather forces for another 10 years, and then somewhere in 2030 it will go to the Crimea, and Donetsk on a new one, but of course it will no longer be in power.
    Only a pale-faced man can step on the same rake 2 times, and a stupid pale-faced many times.
    1. +4
      10 November 2022 22: 14
      In 2030 he will go to the Crimea .. you are an optimist, however !! ..
    2. +1
      10 November 2022 23: 13
      In 2030? Judging by the trenches in the north of Crimea, they are expected in the spring, if not earlier
    3. 0
      11 November 2022 01: 44
      They are already digging trenches in Crimea, and you swung for 10 years
  29. +8
    10 November 2022 22: 04
    They showed weakness, now Serbia does not rely on Russia. Lost ten chimars.
  30. +3
    10 November 2022 22: 04
    Everything went according to plan,
    Konashenkov will not let you lie.

    When something went wrong
    missed this moment.
  31. +14
    10 November 2022 22: 05
    It's just that no one can yet believe that our "leaders" Abramovichs, Rotenbergs, Chubais, Lavrovs, Peskovs, Shoigu, Beglovs, Sobchaks, Fridmans, Avens, Yakunins, Turchaks, Surkovs, Matvienki, Volodins, etc. according to the list are draining our country. More precisely, it becomes obvious even to the most ardent "patriots"
  32. +4
    10 November 2022 22: 05
    Quote: Damir Shamaev
    I am naivete. I thought when Shoigu agreed to hand over Kherson, now the FSB officers will burst in and throw him into the isolation ward for violating the constitution). Like a performance to remove Shoigu. But no performance turns out to be different)

    You, however, like me, should not have been addicted to watching videos from the 20th Congress of the Communists of China belay feel laughing
    We are not in China.

    recourse request
  33. +27
    10 November 2022 22: 06
    Dear Vucic, believe me, for many Russians the abandonment of Kherson was not just a surprise, but a shock. Imagine a country where, since 2008, on TV, Shoigu and others like him have been re-equipping the army from day to day until February 24, 2022. 70% of modern weapons were rearmed. They prepared a highly professional contract army, invented a lot of things that have no analogues in the world on new physical principles. Even the Americans and the British were threatened in Syria and the seas of the oceans of the world. All sorts of international games and exercises muddied with excellent performance. And from February 24, in 4 days, Kanashenkov practically destroyed the entire aviation of Ukraine, and its air defense ceased to exist, according to his stories. And suddenly ... We all find out that half of the contract soldiers at the beginning of the NWO fled from the army. That the air defense of Ukraine still shoots down our planes, helicopters, drones. That enemy aircraft, already destroyed twice in number, continues to fly and fight. It turns out that our fleet is a trough with Caliber launchers, except for launching these missiles, they can’t do anything else. That at parades and exhibitions new equipment is window dressing, but equipment is fighting in the NWO of the 70-80s. That communication and intelligence turns out to be with Ukrainians and NATO is much better. That our valiant military took cities and villages for months with great difficulty and bloodshed, and then with a stroke of the pen the Kremlin gave them to the enemy in one day. That it turns out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are 5 times larger than the Russian army and it is necessary to stir up mobilization. Men who yesterday still worked as managers and taxi drivers - into the trenches, against mercenaries and tanks. And that relatives and governors, and not the Moscow Region, should collect equipment for them. Yes, and the equipment is stolen in the army. That our aviation, which dominates Ukraine, clings to the ground and flies with free-falling bombs and NURSs, as in the Second World War, without crossing the front line. And that Russian cities can be given away to the enemy without a fight, spitting on the referendum, the constitution, the thousands who died for liberation, and so on. That the authorities can deceive the people with undercover agreements and think that this people will support it in the future. Sorry, Vucic, but this is modern Russia. Where the military is fighting and the politicians are fighting for capital. And the authorities do not care about the opinion of the people and what they think about it. And we ourselves are to blame for this, for so many years we supported the authorities, the elections.
    1. Tim
      +10
      10 November 2022 22: 13
      I wonder how long this mess will continue? How long will the Russian people endure this?
      1. +4
        10 November 2022 22: 37
        It's time to revive the ''People's Will'' party, together with the executive committee.
      2. +10
        10 November 2022 22: 42
        Exactly as long as part of the military command decides to stop this circus and take power into their own hands. After that, the armies will give the order to put an end to the regime in Kyiv once and for all, to fight at full strength until the victory. Then start building Russia according to the version of China - with the death penalty for corruption and socialism in the capitalist version.
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        2. +1
          10 November 2022 23: 19
          Throughout history, we have not had military coups, as well as among close peoples. Only the palace ones, well, and one revolution. Judging by the fact that during regroupings, the military simply salute and immediately retreat, and do not resist criminal orders, saying that until we evacuate everyone, we don’t have to talk about any coups, this from the series that Ukrainians will freeze
        3. 0
          11 November 2022 08: 40
          so it is, only true patriots, senior officers can be relied upon in this situation.
      3. +1
        11 November 2022 02: 32
        Does he still exist? Well, this same "Russian people"? By the way, a similar question about the "American, English, German peoples." Population - IS, a fact. And about the people - big doubts ...
    2. +3
      10 November 2022 22: 16
      Here you are strong !!! Stronger probably hard to say! And everything is on point!! Already trembling takes !!!
  34. +1
    10 November 2022 22: 30
    Yes, not only he The whole of Europe is oshuella Surrender without a fight ...
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  36. +2
    10 November 2022 22: 33
    What fucking army?! The commanders say to take off the clothes from the dead vushniks, Podolya collects clothes, because they simply cannot dress 200k soldiers. Helmets, no armor. GDP just framed. Shoigu, as a minister, must answer for the plundering. For 10 years of connivance. This is not a shower build. Really the second day mood shit.
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    2. +11
      10 November 2022 23: 51
      Well, as if the entire vertical was just built by the GDP, which is now hiding behind its subordinates. Do not forget who our supreme commander in chief is and that it is he who, first of all, must take responsibility for this failure, you can read "Article 4. Powers of the President of the Russian Federation in the field of defense." Now the press will disperse that the tsar is not to blame, the boyars are bad again.
    3. +2
      11 November 2022 00: 21
      Podolyaka even did not report on his collection .... he is still a Cossack
  37. +5
    10 November 2022 22: 39
    A little more than a day passed before the truth about the lies with short legs of Surovikin-Shoigu and GDP for the company was revealed.
    At 8 min 50 sec a fresh satellite image of the lock of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station completely suitable for supplying the right bank + spare 3 thrown duplicate bridges is shown.
    - Greetings to all Russian bloggers who publish pictures of damaged barges near Antonovsky Bridge.
    Now the caution of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the involuntarily arising question of "lure" for them in Kherson is very clear.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Bg_3-UVyI
    Video with subtitles, you can include translation into Russian.
    1. +2
      10 November 2022 22: 52
      Oh, how I want to believe ... Ready to mentally cling to every straw, maybe just lost heart
    2. +11
      10 November 2022 23: 21
      For all the time, the Russian army has never shown unexpected somersaults after Gostomel, it is hard to believe in cunning plans
    3. -1
      11 November 2022 00: 12
      And supply something to whom? Troops withdraw.
      1. +1
        11 November 2022 08: 38
        Quote: Two diplomas
        And supply something to whom?

        The right bank could be supplied in winter without the threat of blockade, but Surovikin and Shoigu lied and said otherwise.
  38. 0
    10 November 2022 23: 20
    It was a surprise for all of us!
  39. +4
    10 November 2022 23: 40
    I hope he is not disappointed in us as a reliable partner. lol
  40. +6
    10 November 2022 23: 46
    It seems to me that the whole world is here ah ... and I realized that the giant is on clay feet. So let's start learning language?
  41. 0
    11 November 2022 00: 07
    This means that he will do as Brussels demands of him.
  42. +4
    11 November 2022 00: 08
    Indians refuse to pay for oil in rubles. This is the first swallow. The weak and cowards are not digested in the world.
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  46. +7
    11 November 2022 00: 55
    Hmm, the shame is of course large-scale, the President of Serbia meant that you should not count on Russia if it already abandons its cities, I think not only in Serbia they understood this, but also in other countries that there is no trust in the Kremlin, what is the use of an alliance with our country, colossal image losses in the international arena, and the population is losing faith in the leadership of the army and the country in particular, we cannot cope with an army that has practically no aviation and advanced technology, all their secondhand equipment is not the first freshness, with very rare exceptions, even the victories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine may inspire Western countries to supply modern equipment, which will make the situation at the front even sadder. The end result is a global disgrace. I can imagine how hard it is for our guys now, how demoralized they are by such behavior of the leadership, the lives of our soldiers given for this land were essentially in vain.
  47. +4
    11 November 2022 00: 56
    "And the king is naked!"
    Who would have thought that our supreme as a statesman would be worse than some clown.
  48. -1
    11 November 2022 01: 16
    I must admit that I was wrong in my predictions, saying earlier that the Russian army would defend Kherson with all its might. I thought that there they would put up strong resistance.
    The southeast of Ukraine is very similar to Kosovo, BUT unfortunately for Vucic, Serbia is not Ukraine, and Kosovo is not Donbass. The originality of the decisions made is evident to the leaders of the EU and the USA. The winter period 2022-2023 in Ukraine promises to be hot. Euro-American fans of "chess games" and "Oscars" for the best "male role and direction" obviously do not confuse the combinatorics of actions and decisions with anything else. As a "seed" rhetorical question: What is the difference between Maserati and Bugati? wink
  49. +5
    11 November 2022 02: 53
    In diplomatic language, the Serbian leader makes it clear that Russia no longer exists as a potential military ally for Serbia.
    But Erdogan praised. Representing the country with which Russia fought the most.
    1. +2
      11 November 2022 03: 18
      And how many other leaders of third countries have not said so, but thought!
      1. +2
        11 November 2022 03: 51
        Exactly. In general, only those who are capable of causing real damage to the enemy are considered. At a minimum, stand up for yourself, protect your interests, not counting on someone's mercy.
  50. +5
    11 November 2022 03: 12
    The abandonment of Kherson is a) the end of Transnistria in the foreseeable future b) Serbia realizes that we are no good as an ally.
    You can not talk about such trifles as the loss of a bridgehead. We here seriously discussed Nikolaev, Odessa. The adults at the top decided everything differently and it seems like a long time ago.
    1. 0
      13 November 2022 05: 52
      I agree with everything, except that these are adults, in fact they are narrow-minded people living in a very simplified world, not seeing a lot of coverage, they do not take into account all the important details and therefore make mistakes again and again. Life forces them to do now what they were told to do years ago, but they are now doing what will save themselves, with great reluctance. These are not serious people sitting in serious places.
      1. 0
        14 November 2022 02: 45
        They just have a different concept of seriousness. Preservation of capital, cash flows, contacts with "partners" and so on. Serious people make big money and leave it to posterity. And you and I are naive idealists for them. If the 110 or so richest people own 35 percent of all the wealth in the country, what are they going to worry about? About their fortunes or about the well-being of millions of people unknown to them ...
  51. +2
    11 November 2022 03: 49
    there, it seems the whole world has gone crazy from the difficult decisions of Russian strategists... through the efforts of our leadership, a real image is being created that the Russian Armed Forces are a paper tiger..
  52. +3
    11 November 2022 04: 08
    Yes, it's a shock for all of us, but it's true. Just think, Vucic, what are the words of our Supreme Commander and his shobla worth! We also feel betrayed. Until we have the father of nations “Stalin” at our head, they will ruin everything. !! I feel sorry for the people who accepted our citizenship!
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  54. +3
    11 November 2022 05: 30
    We need to carry out SVO in the Kremlin! Otherwise we'll merge! The judoka played too hard, surrounded himself with oligarchs who are traitors and have only selfish interests and influence... It’s unlikely that he’ll be able to win.
  55. +3
    11 November 2022 06: 01
    Can not understand anything. Leave Kherson, save the lives of the soldiers and then take it again and put twice as much.
    1. 0
      11 November 2022 11: 52
      Are you sure they will hire him again?
  56. +1
    11 November 2022 06: 45
    And this is the opinion of friends...) And the enemies are simply wiping their feet. All SVO goals have been achieved...
  57. +1
    11 November 2022 07: 26
    It (this decision) came as a surprise to everyone.
  58. +1
    11 November 2022 08: 06
    In other words, Vucic said that he had decided who he was.
  59. -1
    11 November 2022 09: 03
    Vučić did not expect it. Who expected it? Now, it seems, everyone is a little in shock. But most likely this is part of some plan. There is definitely a plan. It's just that ordinary people don't know it. I think Russia definitely has some trump cards up its sleeve. And she will show them, only later. Let fellow Serbs not worry, everything will be fine))
    1. +1
      12 November 2022 09: 50
      We heard this after fleeing the Kharkov region
  60. 0
    11 November 2022 11: 30
    You are not alone in such conclusions. Russia is also perplexed.
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