"Lament of Yaroslavna": again about hemostatic tourniquets

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"Lament of Yaroslavna": again about hemostatic tourniquets

On November 8, Alexander "RAZVEDOS" Arutyunov, widely known in narrow circles, posted short video postdedicated to the product "Mikhailov tourniquet hemostatic "FEST" disposable No. 1".

It would seem, well, laid out and laid out, why mumble something? However, curiosity led me to manufacturer's official website, where I was met by a huge banner:




It follows from it that the tourniquet is hemostatic and is the best tool for EMERGENCY stop bleeding. It is assumed that any and from any places, since there are no footnotes and asterisks. At this point, I would like to recall the concept of "Public offer" (Civil Code Article 437):

1. Advertising and other offers addressed to an indefinite circle of persons are considered as an invitation to make offers, unless otherwise expressly stated in the offer;

2. An offer containing all the essential terms of the contract, from which the will of the person making the offer is seen to conclude an agreement on the conditions specified in the offer with anyone who responds, is recognized as an offer (public offer).

I doubt that I am able to correctly interpret the law in this case, so let's go from the opposite. Advertising slogans without specific information are NOT a public offer, but here we specifically indicate the specialization of the product, which is also confirmed by MONIKA's FUV tests - it turns out that this is a public offer, and after using this product, the blood will stop. To be honest, I highly doubt that arterial bleeding will stop for reasons other than "the patient's blood has dried up", but let's turn to tests.

Requirements for a tourniquet:

1) Must completely stop the flow of blood from the damaged artery. Next come criteria like the absence of a pulse, but we have already learned the most important thing. The product should stop arterial bleeding;
2) The tourniquet should not injure the arteries, nerves and underlying tissues;
3) It must be possible to use the product in any climatic conditions and in any lighting;
4) It must be possible to apply a tourniquet on bare skin;
5) The tourniquet should be easily and quickly applied and removed just as quickly;
6) The tourniquet should be easily washed from dirt and blood or be disposable;
7) Be strong enough and easy to apply.

Harnesses from different manufacturers and even an Esmarch harness participated in the testing, and for comparison we used simulator "Vladimir Mikhailov".

Criteria for requirements for participants:

1) The possibility of applying a tourniquet to oneself with one hand;
2) The possibility of applying a tourniquet to the thigh of an adult victim;
3) Thermal resistance from -25 to +40 degrees Celsius;
4) The ability to apply a tourniquet on a clamped limb;
5) Reliability of fixation of the tourniquet application, excluding the possibility of unintentional weakening;
6) Convenience of short-term loosening and subsequent tension of the tourniquet;
7) Possibility of attaching notes to the harness over time;
8) The possibility of applying to the skin of the victim;
9) Ease of use.

The long-suffering tourniquet of Esmarch does not pass through points: 3, 6, 8 and 9. Yes, the absolutely subjective point No. 9 was also not passed, because the design of the tourniquet "does not allow it to be conveniently transported and applied". According to experts, the Esmarch tourniquet is intended for use only in stationary conditions, which is the same as “written in the instruction manual". Here I was stunned, because the Esmarch tourniquet is still part of the first-aid kit of the armed forces of the Russian Federation. As they say, one of the turtles... got it wrong.

Thus, the head of the Department of Disaster Medicine, Doctor of Medical Sciences, Professor Volodin A.S. and Associate Professor of the Department of Disaster Medicine, Candidate of Medical Sciences Volfson S.D. decided that the FEST tourniquet meets all the requirements.

A certificate of conformity to something issued by VNIITSI LLC is also available. Legally, everything is fine, you will not find fault. This is what made it possible to actively complete car first-aid kits with this product, all according to the law.


Another stumbling block is the car first aid kit. Since 2021, the Ministry of Health has given motorists the opportunity to assemble a mandatory first aid kit on their own, but enterprising manufacturers quickly offered a cheap and angry option. 400 rubles for an indulgence from the law is not so much, especially against the backdrop of the cost of OSAGO.

Let's get back to the harness. I invite the reader to get to know patented venous tourniquet "FEST".


And then compare it with hemostatic tourniquet "FEST".


The main difference is that a hemostatic can be used for arterial bleeding, but not a venous one.

And now I want to remind you of the Rudnev contactor, which is used on the Alpha harness, in order to draw attention to the difference in the materials of execution of the two products. If we assume that nanotechnology was not used in the design of the FEST harness, the question arises - why is the Rudnev contactor made of durable metal and not plastic?


Conclusions


I have formed individual conclusions about the product and an opinion about the manufacturer, but I do not want to end with this. Literally a day before the release of the post, Alexander published my article on products of the LEAF project. On the day the post was published, Alexander published an article from Vlad Harrigan, Sergey Kasper and Victor L. in the group Gray Zone Medicinededicated to comparison of hemostatic agents. In our country, in general, there are many people who have been successfully working on the development of the medical field for a long time, producing, importing, testing and modernizing instruments that are actively used during a special military operation.

Problems with the Esmarch harness, the need to reform the approach to self-help and mutual assistance in the framework of hostilities were reported long before the start of the NWO. At the beginning of the NWO, this and problems with first-aid kits were shouted from every iron. All in order for the conditional “someone” to pay attention to a free niche and offer their product. Considering all the legal beauty of some products and the absoluteness in passing expert tests, I am afraid that the Esmarch tourniquet will soon seem to us the standard for completing first-aid kits. I would like, of course, to say hello to the responsible persons and demand that this be prevented, but here only time will tell where we will end up.
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  1. +10
    15 November 2022 05: 56
    Plastic breaks in the cold...
    I imagine a picture ... at minus 25, a tourniquet with a plastic buckle is applied and tightened to the victim, and it is groaning and falling apart ...
    at such a moment, I want to strangle with this tourniquet the one who came up with this for our Siberian winter conditions.
    1. -6
      15 November 2022 07: 32
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Plastic breaks in the cold...
      I imagine a picture ... at minus 25, a tourniquet with a plastic buckle is applied and tightened to the victim, and it is groaning and falling apart ...
      at such a moment, I want to strangle with this tourniquet the one who came up with this for our Siberian winter conditions.

      Already reached Siberia? On bezrybe and cancer-pike.
      1. +7
        15 November 2022 13: 40
        Do you think that the need to stop bleeding occurs only during combat operations?
        In fact, traffic accidents, accidents at home, all kinds of injuries at work - take place throughout our country (including the Urals, the Arctic, Siberia, and Altai + the Arctic and Antarctic) ..
        An all-weather universal device is required.
      2. +5
        15 November 2022 15: 45
        Already reached Siberia? On bezrybe and cancer-pike.

        With such an attitude, I won’t be surprised if they reach it, but why did metal buckles end in Russia without fish?
  2. +8
    15 November 2022 05: 57
    Requirements for a tourniquet:

    Some nonsense. I remember exactly in the rules for applying a tourniquet, point one ONLY on clothes or on fabric. The same for the turnstile, but then the turnstiles were self-made, and only Esmarch was burned.
    From nefig to do rummaged - that's right
    Harness rules:
    it should be applied exclusively to clothing, if it is not there, any fabric should be used

    https://www.aramed.ru/o-tovarakh/nalozhenie-zhguta/
    That's the joke, one of the first tourniquets that COULD be put on the skin:

    Criteria for requirements for participants:
    1) The possibility of applying a tourniquet to oneself with one hand;

    belay
    Is that Esmarha? Where the first 2-3 rounds should be applied beforehand by STRETCHING the tourniquet?!
    The requirements are generally some kind of strange, which means it should not injure nerves / tissues? Here you can put it on - ANYONE can pull it - and hello necrosis.
    1. +2
      15 November 2022 07: 19
      Quote from Bingo
      The requirements are generally some kind of strange, which means it should not injure nerves / tissues?

      Before steam necrosis, or even three hours after application, and with this shelter it’s not just to peel off bare skin, you can cut the muscle through a rag, for sure at the buckle! Cool stuff for sure.
      1. +4
        15 November 2022 15: 17
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Before steam necrosis, or even three hours after application,

        If it is wrong to impose rounds, When folds of skin stick out between them, necrosis will be earlier. hi
    2. 0
      15 November 2022 15: 15
      Quote from Bingo
      That's the joke, one of the first tourniquets that COULD be put on the skin:

      Alpha is a good tourniquet, the question is about its length - sometimes it is not enough. Yes, and the contactor as an add-on, and not in the kit. In general, the problem with tourniquets is that it is very difficult for them to provide self-help. The turnstile rules here. As for necrosis, tourniquets, especially RAT, are of course more traumatic. Plus clumsy hands when applying a tourniquet.
      According to the article - the author mentioned the LEAF project. Yes, good medicine, but it is many times more expensive than Rino, although Rino is no worse. Even now, the Rino turnstile on Alik is 650 rubles, while LEAF is 2500. hi
  3. +6
    15 November 2022 07: 59
    APU standard, installation of a SICH tourniquet on any limb in 30 seconds. Before passing the standard, the soldier is forced to spin with his hands raised up until his head is spinning. I’m wondering if any of the manufacturers of the above harnesses tried to wind their products at least by hand during this time?
  4. +4
    15 November 2022 08: 44
    This cheap crap seems to have been designed for car first aid kits. Like, to be. Really - slag.
  5. +1
    15 November 2022 10: 28
    This is capitalism, baby.
    Why improve something, choose the best options?
    The market will do everything.
    It seems that in the environment of managers it is still customary to entrust the work to the "invisible hand".
    She does fit well in her pocket.
    1. +6
      15 November 2022 11: 03
      For some reason, no capitalism interferes with Israeli first-aid kits.
      1. +2
        15 November 2022 11: 26
        Quote: Dmitry Rigov
        For some reason, no capitalism interferes with Israeli first-aid kits.

        Well, in Israel today you produce a first-aid kit, and maybe tomorrow you will run around with it. smile
        1. +1
          15 November 2022 12: 04
          The buckle from the last photo, in the form of a snake, is a masterpiece! It is optimal for mass production by laser sheet cutting. Let me explain, turning the laser on and off reduces its resource, therefore, when calculating the price of an order, there are columns "number of inclusions" and "linear meters of cut". It is a necessity to recoup machine repair. And these buckles can be cut in hundreds from one sheet of metal, with one beam switching on, until the entire sheet is cut into buckles, consuming the laser resource only for running meters (and minutes) of the cut.
          so in Israel today you produce a first aid kit, and maybe tomorrow

          The manufacturer will be caught by the widow of the deceased, with a weapon or just a heavier frying pan. And she will most likely be acquitted by those who do not want to go into battle with this "first aid kit".
          1. 0
            15 November 2022 14: 57
            Quote: eule
            The manufacturer will be caught by the widow of the deceased, with a weapon or just a heavier frying pan. And she will most likely be acquitted by those who do not want to go into battle with this "first aid kit".

            Duc ... the verdict is clear - suicide in a way that is dangerous to others, committed with particular cynicism and cruelty.
          2. +2
            15 November 2022 15: 27
            Quote: eule
            It is optimal for mass production by laser sheet cutting.

            The Rudnev contactor was invented even before the advent of laser cutting of metal, and it is made by stamping. Pls have polymer contactors. wink
          3. 0
            22 November 2022 10: 48
            There, the edges are sharp after cutting, then it will be necessary to machine them separately and you can forget about cheapness.
        2. +5
          15 November 2022 15: 19
          Quote: Alexey RA
          so in Israel today you produce a first aid kit, and maybe tomorrow you will run around with it.

          USA, Europe - there are also high-quality first-aid kits. wink
          The problem is that we have feudal, wild capitalism. And I have been talking about this since the first day of registration at VO. hi
  6. +2
    15 November 2022 11: 33
    reported long before the onset of SVO. At the beginning of the NWO, this and problems with first-aid kits were shouted from every iron. All in order for the conditional “someone” to pay attention to a free niche and offer their product.


    If you look, but everything else that is bought - such as boots or bulletproof vests, then it is unlikely that the manufacturer decides what to put and how to occupy a niche ...... Everyone knows - about the reference samples of boots and before the CBO. Warriors buy them with "their" money .... standard American military boots are seasonal. And the suppliers have dark glasses on their eyes. And all the military need to walk a lot - this is not for special forces.
    1. 0
      15 November 2022 15: 21
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Warriors buy them with "their" money .... standard American military boots are seasonal.

      Or Chinese replicas. And very high quality.
      1. 0
        15 November 2022 15: 54
        There are also our not bad manufacturers .... But they buy garbage .... In a war, you may not meet the enemy, but you will have to walk a lot with your legs, in a bulletproof vest (which could be with weight distribution)
  7. +1
    15 November 2022 12: 08
    They spawned a bunch of all sorts of "medical and biological agencies" ... By the way, did the minister of "health" serve in the army? What did the minister of "social protection" do for the "social protection" of the wounded on the battlefield? That's not how they win.

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