The defeat of the 14th SS division "Galicia" and "inconvenient" facts for modern Ukraine

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The defeat of the 14th SS division "Galicia" and "inconvenient" facts for modern Ukraine

The 14th SS Grenadier Division "Galicia", created by the Wehrmacht in 1943 on the territory of Western Ukraine, after the coup in 2014, began to be glorified by the Kyiv authorities.

Tellingly, the members of this fascist formation in Ukraine are now considered national heroes. Moreover, two years ago, the press service of the Lviv administration announced that the SS division "Galicia" consisted of "Ukrainian patriots" who voluntarily joined its ranks in order to further create the backbone of the army, whose goal would be to restore the independent state of Ukraine.



In this regard, it is worth dwelling on a number of “inconvenient” facts for the current Kyiv authorities, which will debunk the myth of the “national heroes of Ukraine” from the aforementioned fascist formation.

Let's start with the fact that there was no talk of creating an army to restore an independent Ukraine. The SS division "Galicia" performed the functions of fighting partisans in Eastern Europe and Galicia.

By the way, this formation cannot be called an army either. The only major battle of the fascist division was the battle with the advancing Red Army near Brody (Lvov region).

It is worth noting that modern Ukrainian "historians" present this battle as a "baptism of fire" of the SS division "Galicia". In fact, it was her complete defeat.

It happened on July 22, 1944, when the 14th SS division with other formations of the 13th Wehrmacht Corps was supposed to hold back the advance of the troops of the 1st Ukrainian Front on a 30-kilometer stretch in the area of ​​​​the important Brody transport hub.

It all ended with the fact that the Red Army, advancing in two directions, first took the defending formations of the Wehrmacht into “pincers”, and then into a complete encirclement.

According to historians, out of more than 15 thousand Nazis from "Galicia", only about 500 soldiers and officers managed to get out of the encirclement. In total, more than 28 thousand Wehrmacht soldiers were destroyed in this battle. Another 17 were captured.

Such is the "baptism of fire".



Finally, it is worth mentioning other “inconvenient” facts for modern Ukraine.

For example, members of the fascist formation of the SS "Galicia" have never been and could not be "Ukrainian patriots." After all, the word "Ukrainian", as well as the corresponding paraphernalia, like a trident, were banned in the division. Its fighters were called "Galicians", and the command and recruitment of volunteers were carried out by the Germans (with the exception of Evgen the Runaway).

Another misconception of the "experts" from our "western neighbor" is that only Ukrainians fought in the troops of the 1st Ukrainian Front (apparently they made such a conclusion from the name).

However, for the Kyiv authorities, the truth should look much more preferable. Otherwise, if we assume that there were Ukrainian patriots in the SS "Galicia", and only Ukrainians fought in the troops of the 1st Ukrainian Front, then it turns out that during the Great Patriotic War, Ukrainians fought with Ukrainians. It doesn't sound very patriotic...
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  1. +6
    November 10, 2022
    Let's not pull necromongers out of oblivion, shall we?
    The USSR, as a state, won the Great Patriotic War. Rather, the USSR won the Great Patriotic War. Then there was no game, and they didn’t win, but they won.
    But now to pull out the archives to show that today's enemy is bad, because many years ago the military ancestors were bad - just sow noise.
    1. +2
      November 10, 2022
      Quote from Fangaro
      But now to pull out the archives to show that today's enemy is bad, because many years ago the military ancestors were bad - just sow noise

      Here the proverb is true, which says that an apple does not fall far from an apple tree. Modern skakuas are not far from their grandfathers and great-grandfathers ...
      1. 0
        November 10, 2022
        Quote: Luminman
        Here the proverb is true, which says that an apple does not fall far from an apple tree. Modern skakuas are not far from their grandfathers and great-grandfathers ...


        And who is not far from Vlasov and the ROA?
        1. +1
          November 10, 2022
          I think the one who returned the symbols of the Russian Empire back, and tried and is trying to discredit everything Soviet.
      2. 0
        November 11, 2022
        Ukraine is full of people in the Armed Forces of Ukraine whose ancestors fought in the Red Army.
    2. -1
      November 11, 2022
      Now they will start throwing various objects at me,
      but - the longer I live, the more clearly I understand
      that the USSR won the Second World War (recapturing the territory), but WWII did not.

      40 million of the killed gene pool, sorry - these are not seeds even once.

      From an economic point of view, the USSR lost the war to smithereens,
      and this cannot be denied.
      Eastern bloc economic recovery
      The Soviet Union with its own ruined economy
      was overpriced. In the absence of staff including.

      Therefore, I think - from an economic and demographic point of view, WWII
      USA won.
    3. 0
      January 1 2023
      Quote from Fangaro
      Let's not pull necromongers out of oblivion, shall we?

      How to condemn Stalin, so there is no talk of necromongerism! Even a trace, everything is as it was now! Is it true? And when it comes to REAL bloody ghouls, cowardly years, capable of fighting only with the unarmed, so "oh, it was all a long time ago, no need to remember !!" Do not pull out the archives! How little is written there! Nothing is needed, do not touch our "heroes" !! Ugh...
  2. +8
    November 10, 2022
    According to historians, out of more than 15 thousand Nazis from "Galicia", only about 500 soldiers and officers managed to get out of the encirclement.

    Viktor Shunkov in the book "Soldiers of Destruction" (about the SS troops - banned in Russia) wrote that the Galicians were not taken prisoner then. In general, rightly so ... what
    1. +6
      November 10, 2022
      Quote: Pane Kohanku
      Galicians then did not take our prisoners.

      And they did it right ...
    2. +3
      November 11, 2022
      Quote: Pan Kohanku
      According to historians, out of more than 15 thousand Nazis from "Galicia", only about 500 soldiers and officers managed to get out of the encirclement.

      Viktor Shunkov in the book "Soldiers of Destruction" (about the SS troops - banned in Russia) wrote that the Galicians were not taken prisoner then. In general, rightly so ... what

      Firstly, not 500, but over three thousand survived.

      Secondly, a new staff was recruited from the same Galicians, with a staffing level greater than the previous one. The division fought against the partisans of Eastern Europe and re-engaged with the Red Army from mid-April to May 6, 1945. After she retreated beyond the Line of Demarcation and surrendered to the allies.

      Thirdly, it was not issued by the allies. So they successfully bred and multiplied in Canada, America, Western Europe. Everyone remembers the first team, but few people know about the second.
  3. +2
    November 10, 2022
    Roman battalions fought.
    Greeks and Macedonians. French people.
    North American Stadtians: North and South.
    Formerly subjects of the Russian Empire.
    Chinese. Russians. Ukrainians. Yugoslavs.
    Not educated enough to list more.
    It's not about nationality. This is about different beliefs, politics, economics, the weakness of power in the territory, or vice versa, the strength of power.
    And, personal opinion, there is no shame in history. History cannot be reproached. But if history is forgotten, it will return with a new scythe of souls and lives.
  4. +2
    November 10, 2022
    Yes, modern Ukrainians, after 30 years of zombification, even have a "golden rain" in their eyes, but they will still scream that this is God's dew !!!
    1. +2
      November 10, 2022
      Quote: Greg Miller
      Yes, modern Ukrainians, after 30 years of zombification, even have a "golden rain" in their eyes, but they will still scream that this is God's dew !!!

      So they scream! wink
    2. -1
      November 10, 2022
      to modern Ukrainians after 30 years of zombification
      And what can you say about the Chechens with whom they fought for more than 10 years? Which a year ago they discussed how they deftly raked maroon berets.
      Now tell me fairy tales that in the special operation only the Chechens fought, and the Russians hid.
      1. -6
        November 10, 2022
        And what can you say about the Chukchi with whom, in fact, they fought for a century? And what about the Crimean Tatars, who have been our thorn in the ages?
  5. +9
    November 10, 2022
    Let's remember the merits of our ancestors, against today's background? Shall we sprinkle bitter pills with sugar? Then, the cities were not handed over to the nationalists. The nationalists were shot, not exchanged. They tried, gave a deadline, until a certain time, "rotted in the Gulag"
    1. +4
      November 10, 2022
      Quote: parusnik
      Nationalists were shot, not exchanged. They tried, gave a deadline, until a certain time, "rotted in the Gulag"

      Exactly! It can be seen how much the priorities of power have changed - the Gulag was condemned, and the Nazis were exchanged!
  6. -1
    November 10, 2022
    The history of Ukraine is now being written by the descendants of these SS men and the Anglo-Saxons support them in this.
    There is no way to oppose this to weak Russia now ... the UN vote showed this well.
    1. +2
      November 10, 2022
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      There is no way to oppose this to weak Russia now ...
      A state that possesses nuclear weapons, which can "destroy the whole world" three times, cannot be weak by definition, and if we take into account the largest amount of resources in the world and the ability to do without any supply of anything, then the question not in the state, but in the administration!
      1. -1
        November 11, 2022
        A state that possesses nuclear weapons, which can "the whole world into dust" three times, cannot be weak by definition

        You wrote about the USSR, however.
        1. +2
          November 11, 2022
          Quote from solar
          You wrote about the USSR, however.
          And what has changed in our nuclear triad?!
      2. -1
        November 11, 2022
        A state with a large army armed with modern weapons, but with a useless government, a worthless military command and a completely corrupt state apparatus, cannot be strong in its essence. I took the liberty of paraphrasing Clausewitz somewhat.
        1. +1
          November 11, 2022
          Quote: Frank Muller
          useless government, useless military command and completely corrupt state apparatus, it cannot be strong in its essence
          Basically you confirmed my post. smile
  7. +1
    November 10, 2022
    The defeat of the 14th SS division "Galicia" and "inconvenient" facts for modern Ukraine


    We are certainly proud of our grandfathers. But can we talk about the events of this century?
  8. +3
    November 10, 2022
    So what's new in the article?
    That the current ones are even worse than those?
    That they should not be taken prisoner, but hanged?
    I personally completely agree.
    Yes, the state does not agree with me, it has a moratorium. Apparently, some people dream of returning to Europe.
  9. +7
    November 10, 2022
    I don’t understand what the RF Armed Forces have to do with the victories of the Red Army? In the Russian Federation, everything Soviet is desecrated, albeit not as loudly as it was done and is being done in 404 and Eastern Europe, but it is being done. And the Russian Federation appropriated the victory in the Great Patriotic War. And he wants to assign other victories. Some monuments to the Italian fascists in the Voronezh region are worth something. After all, officials allowed them! Or as the guarantor said: "Flies separately, cutlets separately." Well, yes, promises are cutlets, and flies are deeds. Everything for the people!
    1. +2
      November 10, 2022
      And the most disgusting thing is that the mausoleum from which Stalin took the Parade in 1945 is draped on the Victory Parade, and simultaneously with the Red Banner of the Red Army, the tricolor is brought out, under which the roa fought against the Red Army.
      1. +2
        November 11, 2022
        So according to modern history, it is not known who commanded ...... so excerpts are heard - they won in spite of Stalin,
    2. -1
      November 11, 2022
      In unison with you, I remembered a remark from the film "Chapaev": "Do you want to cling to someone else's glory!? Well, get their divisions to hell!" This powerful brotherhood approaches the legacy of victory selectively, according to the principle: what is profitable - we glorify, what is not profitable - we blaspheme, or we hush up. I dare to assure you that if the ruling oligarchy had wanted to, they would have spoiled the memory of the Second World War, rewriting its history in the bud. And Vlasov and others like him would be made heroes - martyrs. Or is it still ahead?
  10. 0
    November 10, 2022
    They buried some Nazis in 1944, now we need to bury those who remained unfinished.
    1. 0
      January 2 2023
      They buried some Nazis in 1944, now we need to bury those who remained unfinished

      And here let me argue with you, those who were not finished off died out on their own, and they were replaced by conscious traitors to their history and their ancestors, to whom uncles from across the ocean came up with "stories from the transcendental world" and replaced their brains with chaff.
  11. 0
    November 11, 2022
    Quote from Lavander

    And who is not far from Vlasov and the ROA?

    And in the Russian Federation, Vlasov became a national hero?
    1. +1
      November 11, 2022
      In St. Petersburg, they hung up a memorial plaque to Mannerheim and there was nothing to do, it’s good that they removed it.
  12. 0
    November 11, 2022
    We must be aware that a large detachment of Ukrainian soldiers fought as part of the USSR army, who also took part in the liberation of Czechoslovakia and Prague. The division of Galicia is Western Ukraine, from the time of the former Austria-Hungary. Interestingly, the killers come to power after returning. am
  13. 0
    November 11, 2022
    To tell the truth, the SS - division "Galicia" was recruited on a competitive basis, because. more than 100 people were willing to go to war with the Soviets. Instead of the SS "thunders and lightnings", in the right buttonhole they were allowed to wear the emblem of the division in the form of a lion. Fascist greeting "Sieg heil!" was replaced by the usual army trump card. Their officers were Germans, non-commissioned officers - from among the local brethren, who had experience in serving in the army (mostly in the Polish one). By the way, neither the OUN (b) nor the OUN (m) had anything to do with the acquisition of "Galicia". Nevertheless, Konev, having learned from the scouts who was opposing him on the sector of the front planned for the offensive, ordered that no prisoners be taken. But all of them could not do without them, and some of the “Galicians” thundered into the Stalinist camps, and those of them who did not rot in Siberia and Kolyma took advantage of the Khrushchev amnesty and are now revered in Ukraine like heroes - fighters against the accursed Stalinist tyranny. What to do, history is a latrine of politicians: whoever defecates, then stinks.
  14. 0
    November 12, 2022
    Ho..hly, those for whom Ukrainian surzhik is their native language are cowardly and vile. Only notorious scoundrels can ban the native language of the majority of the country's population. During the Great Patriotic War, the German Nazis did not FORBIDDEN the RUSSIAN LANGUAGE in the occupied territories. The current Ukronazis are worse than the German Nazis of the Hitlerite spill.
  15. 0
    November 12, 2022
    If the facts are inconvenient, so much the worse for the facts. This is not the time to analyze the facts. Now the main thing is the conviction in the rightness of one's cause, the awareness of the danger threatening everyone (without exception), the readiness and ability to nominate talented leaders instead of mediocre or wreckers.
  16. 0
    November 12, 2022
    It was the lowest division, which consisted not only of Ukrainians, but also of representatives of other nationalities. The name does not mean that it was a purely Ukrainian part in terms of the size of the division. Although Himmler allowed selected Ukrainians to join the unit, they were often or mostly convicted criminals. If Ukrainians are so proud of their ancestors, let General Surikov act. am
  17. 0
    November 13, 2022
    Governor of the Galician District D. Otto von Wächter, who proposed the creation of an SS weapons division intended for deployment on the Eastern Front. The creation of the 14th Grenadier Division was solemnly announced in various places in Galicia in April 1943.
    The first stage of recruitment of volunteers began in June 1943. Initially, Vakhter's proposals (although supported by Ukrainian circles) were rejected. However, in Berlin, Wächter secured the support of Himmler, who demanded that the division be built from Galicians, whom he considered more Aryan. The terms Ukrainian, Ukraine were not to appear in the references, in order to emphasize the heritage of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the term "Galicia" should have been used.
  18. 0
    November 13, 2022
    In Kosovo there was a special school for Ukrainians. The teachers were Ukrainians, but under the command of the Germans. Ukrainians with blond hair and a special type of face were selected there, which were supposed to resemble German muzzles. With two who served time in the Soviet "pioneer camps", some were younger, according to them, who spent five years, who were ten, were released from the camps, they went home to the Ivano-Frankivsk region. With some it turned out to work in the fleet. They did not share their exploits, they grew wiser. They only said that they were youngsters and they were lucky that they did not participate in the executions. Those who participated disappeared without a trace.

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