Head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff: We are observing the first signs of the withdrawal of Russian troops from the right bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region

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Head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff: We are observing the first signs of the withdrawal of Russian troops from the right bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region

The United States is observing the first signs of the withdrawal of Russian armed forces from the territory of Kherson and the right bank of the Dnieper. This was stated by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US Armed Forces, General Mark Milley.

However, according to the American general, the withdrawal of 20-30 thousand Russian troops from the right bank of the Dnieper will take quite a long time. We are talking about days and even weeks, Milli emphasized.



The head of the US Chiefs of Staff also tried to explain the meaning of the withdrawal of troops. Milli believes that the Russian military command made such a decision in order, firstly, to preserve personnel and equipment, and secondly, to restore defense lines south of the Dnieper. However, the American general is not sure about this for sure.

It should be noted that the Ukrainian authorities also reacted with great suspicion to the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kherson. According to representatives of the Kyiv regime, so far there is no evidence that Russian troops are retreating from the right bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region.

Recall that yesterday, Russian Defense Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu agreed with the arguments of the commander of the troops in the special military operation, General of the Army Sergei Surovikin, and ordered the withdrawal of Russian troops to the left bank of the Dnieper River.

This decision was explained by the need to save the lives of soldiers, as well as considerations for the evacuation of civilians from a potentially dangerous zone on the right bank of the Dnieper. The position of Shoigu and Surovikin was supported even by such determined military figures as the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov and businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin.
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    1. -4
      10 November 2022 12: 33
      Negotiated, the Russian troops are calmly leaving Kherson, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not shoot at those who leave!
      1. +5
        10 November 2022 12: 37
        What idiot will interfere with those who give you the city?
        1. -9
          10 November 2022 12: 40
          Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
          What idiot will interfere with those who give you the city?

          Do not allow all heavy equipment to be withdrawn for Lenl-Lease in Ukrainian, therefore, an agreement. From Izyum 1 TA RF, I took out all the equipment that I could drive ... there was also an agreement.
        2. +3
          10 November 2022 12: 48
          Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
          What idiot will interfere with those who give you the city?

          And why such nobility to your enemy?
          To shred the accumulations near the crossing and not to advance somewhere near Chernobaevka, sooner or later, but from Chernobaevka they will be drawn to the crossing, what damage is there for those who are shelling at the fleeing?
          1. -1
            10 November 2022 12: 52
            They will stop leaving.
            And then you will not have to lazily occupy what is left, but to storm.
            1. +2
              10 November 2022 13: 35
              Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
              They will stop leaving.

              We are leaving due to supply problems, if we are left with only what we have now, + small supplies in the winter that will not be ahead of the daily consumption of equipment, ammunition, fuel, etc.
              1. +1
                10 November 2022 13: 39
                I haven't seen it myself, but they say there the river is like a wide sea.
                Can cargo submarines be used?
                1. +1
                  10 November 2022 14: 06
                  Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
                  Can cargo submarines be used?

                  No, a submarine needs a steep bank with a margin to the bottom, and at the bottom of the Dnieper, at least from the left, there are only swamps.
                  1. +1
                    10 November 2022 15: 26
                    Thanks for the clear and concise answer.
        3. +1
          10 November 2022 13: 25
          the city will be given away in any case, but shelling the targeted crossings is the most for the dill ...
          in short, the conclusion, without big losses, you don’t have to wait ...
          1. 0
            10 November 2022 13: 35
            Then it makes no sense to withdraw.
            As long as you can drive ammunition, equipment, etc. THERE, from there it’s peaceful.
            And prepare the deblockade.
            1. 0
              11 November 2022 18: 36
              there is no point in taking it out.

              In my opinion, this is not a question of "war" at all ...
              it's politics
              or an agreement
              either the Kremlin simply does not pull this war economically ...

              Surovikin: "The most appropriate option is to organize defense along the barrier line of the Dnieper River"
              Shoigu: "Proceed to withdraw troops across the Dnieper River"

              "Expedient! The retention of Kherson has become inexpedient. The very goal of holding the city has ceased to correspond to the price that will have to be paid for it. Such a formula is applicable not only to Kherson, but to entire subjects. To everything." ©
      2. AAK
        -1
        10 November 2022 12: 40
        Have dill videos with equipment abandoned by Russian troops in the Kherson region already gone on the Web, again the "Izyum-Balakleysky" march? We save people - we leave the equipment to Bandera?
        1. -1
          10 November 2022 12: 49
          . the coast of several thousand units of military equipment and weapons.

          If they are taken out, then what about the equipment? and how do they get around?
        2. 0
          11 November 2022 15: 10
          There is a lot going on on the net. Maybe these shots were taken when leaving Izyum and the estuary?
      3. +5
        10 November 2022 12: 41
        They are taken away on barges and ferries, which are pushed by tugboats.
        Bridges and pontoon crossings are damaged - only if you leave on foot or in light vehicles.
      4. -3
        10 November 2022 12: 49
        Quote: Vovk
        Negotiated, the Russian troops are calmly leaving Kherson, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not shoot at those who leave!

        You, apart from the word contract, do you know others?
        1. +1
          10 November 2022 13: 22
          Quote: Dalmatia
          You, apart from the word contract, do you know others?

          I know - "a cunning plan", "leveling the front", "we do not abandon our own", etc.
      5. +4
        10 November 2022 13: 21
        They do not just retreat, but also abandon equipment without blowing up: 2 BMP-1, MLRS "Grad" and 2 tanks found by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Kherson front.

        In the feedback bot, they expressed the following idea:

        “The abandoned equipment is not undermined, because the commanders are afraid to take responsibility for themselves: they say that their own generals will punish them now for this. This stupidity in the army is solved by a simple order, but there is none.”

        We do not undertake to assert that this is the case and that there is no order. We refuse to believe that combat orders and orders for combat support do not prescribe items obvious from combat manuals and manuals.

        But what we undertake to assert is that all the equipment left by the Ukrainian formations can be tied to a specific official by establishing the ownership of each abandoned piece of equipment.

        And ask the commanders of the formations for all this equipment. Pick up war logs. Make normal investigations. And arrange a demonstrative flogging. The main thing is that this is not carried out for show and unsubscribe from above, for a week tearing off personnel from combat operations. And they did a due diligence.

        Yes, the war will write off a lot. But writing off voluntarily abandoned non-mined equipment is criminal.
        1. 0
          10 November 2022 13: 47
          Quote: Alexandr Sharapov
          This stupidity in the army is solved by a simple order, but it is not

          We hope that when we tick from the left bank with a broadcast on TV, Surovikin and Shoigu will still draw conclusions and give such an order if, according to the charter, this is dangerous for junior commanders.
      6. -1
        10 November 2022 13: 44
        Soon we will find out, if they calmly let them leave, then 110% of the agreement. People write that yesterday morning there weren’t any of our people in different settlements, and then there were blowing up of bridges. As I understand it, they started moving at night from 8 to 9.
      7. 0
        10 November 2022 14: 22
        As long as there are many troops there, still in the field, they will not be substituted. When the part leaves, first of all, part of the heavy equipment, at this moment there will be strikes on those who have accumulated for the crossing.
    2. 0
      10 November 2022 12: 35
      I make a prediction - if the troops at the crossing do not have a nightmare, that is, an agreement and one can only guess which one.


      This decision was explained by the need to save the lives of soldiers, as well as considerations for the evacuation of civilians from a potentially dangerous zone on the right bank of the Dnieper


      Hmm. If the troops are withdrawn, why would the zone be potentially dangerous?
      1. +6
        10 November 2022 12: 46
        Is there no way to ask for early elections of the president and deputies for the coming weekend?
        Only without their favorite "electronic" voting. I just really want to express admiration for the actions of the authorities and what they are doing.
        And at the same time publish a list of their male relatives (that way, up to and including nephews) with a mark on their military duty.
        1. 0
          11 November 2022 15: 13
          Can. And why without electronic? Look how famously they vote on it in America)) are we worse? And if you want to express it, sign up as a volunteer and go to Kueva. So you will express everything to Volodya Zelensky.
          1. 0
            11 November 2022 19: 49
            I don’t remember that we would switch to “you”. But, apparently, it's just a matter of upbringing and culture.
            I gave many years to military service and now, having received a summons, I did not run to hide. Therefore, it is not necessary for me to tell here what and how to do it.
            And about electronic voting - that's when in America it will give such crazy results as we have now (when, according to the results of in-person voting, representatives of united Russia lost en masse, and then, after 4 hours, the e-voting system in Moscow "hung", the final results with electronics turned out to be 20% different from the face-to-face ones .... well, this is ridiculous. When we have courts, the CEC will work the same way as in the USA, then we can talk about something ... but for now, just look for example, the TV presenter Yevgeny Popov was elected - how did the voting results change in his polling station, after the "freeze" of the electronics, and only then talk.
            And it doesn’t matter to me at all how it is in the USA, it’s important to me how it is with us, and this is not a question for Zelensky ...
      2. +2
        10 November 2022 12: 59
        The agreement is unequivocal, but we were in a passive position ... if there was no agreement, then when retreating to beat the enemy, the most correct decision, especially at crossings .. the bottom line is that we are very losing to the enemy in possession of information, numerical strength and some types of weapons, in particular the notorious chimera, which we still haven’t knocked out a single one ... and how many problems they have caused us ...
        1. -3
          10 November 2022 13: 11
          Quote: vitvit123
          when retreating to beat the enemy, the right decision, especially at crossings


          Somewhere under another article I already wrote that if you hit at the crossing, then there is a high probability that the troops will simply remain in the city, they say they cannot cross. And then Ukraine gets a city fight, and it will be a hellish meat grinder for both sides.
          And at the same time, I agree that NOT to hit the crossing when the troops are in the most vulnerable position means letting go of a powerful group.
          1. +3
            10 November 2022 14: 26
            logically, the strikes should be when part of the troops has already crossed and the grouping will weaken, leave their places and logistics will be disrupted.
          2. +1
            10 November 2022 14: 36
            I read your comment .. all the same, in my opinion, the crossing is the most vulnerable spot ...
            If you adapt to your logic, then you can release half of the group, and destroy the last crossing ones .. and the city is intact and the enemy was decently destroyed .. yes, it was possible to give us a nightmare from the enemy, but they don’t nightmare, so it’s an agreement!
            1. -4
              10 November 2022 14: 44
              Quote from solar
              logically, the strikes should be when part of the troops has already crossed and the grouping will weaken, leave their places and logistics will be disrupted.


              Quote: vitvit123

              you can release half of the group, and destroy the last crossing


              This is the outcome that worries me the most, because it is the most obvious solution. Hit the first - the rest will be the city, albeit with supply problems, but they will not die in boats among the Dnieper like sheep in a slaughterhouse, but will sell their lives at a higher price.

              So the Armed Forces of Ukraine will now slowly and smoothly creep up to the city, giving the impression of an inexorable offensive, so that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would be loaded onto ferries as quickly as possible, and when intelligence says "these are the last ones" - they will strike both banks and the river.
              1. +1
                10 November 2022 16: 27
                Well, what can I say, we'll see .. if it doesn't, then it definitely means there was an agreement and I return to what I wrote in the first comment ..
    3. +6
      10 November 2022 12: 36
      Oh Mother, if only for a day they would allow obscene language, huh?! And I don’t want to comment, some emotions and curses.
      1. +1
        10 November 2022 12: 40
        Quote: Murmur 55
        And I don’t want to comment, some emotions and curses.

        Got abilities? Can you repeat?

        1. +1
          10 November 2022 12: 47
          yuriy55 hi, to be honest, it’s funny, witty, I don’t feel like repeating what? The cawing of crows? Or open your mouth without words? This regrouping makes me crazy, no laughing matter, don't get angry.
          1. 0
            10 November 2022 12: 54
            Quote: Murmur 55
            The cawing of crows? Or open your mouth without words?

            The mat should be beautiful, juicy and loud so that it reaches people, but does not offend them. A mat without words that roses through a gas mask to sniff.
            (old mariman)..
          2. 0
            10 November 2022 12: 57
            Quote: Murmur 55
            This regrouping makes me crazy, no laughing matter, don't get angry.

            To be honest, it feels the same...
            Laughter is really inappropriate here ... Since February, I have been trying to find something that would justify just such a move of the NWO ... So I found it ... Confirmed the assumptions ...
    4. +2
      10 November 2022 12: 36
      to restore defense lines south of the Dnieper

      Why mobs then?
      1. 0
        10 November 2022 12: 40
        Hitriy Zhuk hi, we will see. The text of your comment.
    5. -2
      10 November 2022 12: 39
      According to representatives of the Kyiv regime, there is no evidence yet
      You might think they see something there. Now the owner will say that they have begun to take away, then the pig farmer will "see" this.
    6. +9
      10 November 2022 12: 40
      If, after this withdrawal of our troops, political negotiations between the Kremlin and the Ukronazi regime in Kyiv begin on the terms of the Nazis, I will consider this as a betrayal and betrayal of the country's top leadership, and under no circumstances will I support this government.
      Once we went through this and it ended very badly for our country.
      1. -1
        10 November 2022 12: 44
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        If, after this withdrawal of our troops, political negotiations between the Kremlin and the Ukronazi regime in Kyiv begin on the terms of the Nazis, I will consider this as a betrayal and betrayal of the country's top leadership, and under no circumstances will I support this government.
        Once we went through this and it ended very badly for our country.



        The Foreign Ministry said that Moscow had no conditions for negotiations with Kyiv

        “There are no preconditions on our part, except for the main condition: for Ukraine to show goodwill,” the deputy foreign minister said.

        Read more at RBC:
        https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/636a344a9a79474492e4d0e2
      2. +6
        10 November 2022 12: 47
        Comrade, you needed to understand this back in 2015 after the conclusion of the Minsk conspiracy and the murder of ALL ideological Russian patriots in which such a shame would be impossible!
      3. +2
        10 November 2022 12: 51
        Lyokha from Android hi, and? What will you do if this happens? I don’t tease or tease, it’s just that, just like many others, it’s bad at heart, but what can you do. They want to sell gas at a higher price from December 1 by 8,5% for all consumers, let's laugh over Europe.
        1. 0
          10 November 2022 13: 14
          Alone I can't do anything...but millions like me can do it
      4. +2
        10 November 2022 12: 55
        They have been going for a long time, otherwise why do you think they are leaving?
        1. -1
          10 November 2022 13: 23
          That's right, Abramovich rules. The UN enters Kherson after receiving confirmation of security.
      5. -1
        10 November 2022 13: 01
        I would say that it is reasonable if you accurately announced the date and time of the start of the special operation before February 24, substantiated its necessity and provided a specific plan of action.
        But something tells me that until February 24 you repeated the words of Channel One about "the mythical invasion of the Russian army on the Ukrainian ** well")))
    7. +1
      10 November 2022 12: 40
      The head of the US Chiefs of Staff also tried to explain the meaning of the withdrawal of troops.
      However, the American general is not sure about this for sure.
      "Curators" do not understand what is happening.
    8. +4
      10 November 2022 12: 41
      Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
      to restore defense lines south of the Dnieper

      Why mobs then?

      And then the mobs will be left to die heroically when crossing the Dnieper. Well, if we manage not to carry out another "regrouping" to Rostov.
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    10. +7
      10 November 2022 12: 43
      And Stremousov, IMHO, was removed because of his position, and it seems to me that this is not a Ukro-Reich.
    11. +7
      10 November 2022 12: 44
      to restore defense lines south of the Dnieper

      This means only one thing - you can now forget about Odessa and Nikolaev. It is practically impossible to cross the Dnieper again in the lower reaches, with the ukrovermacht entrenched on the other side. Therefore, the Bandera Tsegabonia will continue to exist. For to fill it up is possible only by depriving it of access to the sea. There is one more extremely unpleasant thing - we are now unable to provide any assistance to Pridnestrovie in principle. This means that in the near future they will begin to destroy it .. Finished the game, great strategists ..
      1. +5
        10 November 2022 12: 52

        Transnistria, we now can not in principle. This means that in the near future they will begin to destroy it .. Finished the game, great strategists ..

        strategists have not thought about it yet, they have a memory like aquarium fish
      2. +2
        10 November 2022 12: 56
        It was possible to forget about them in April with the first retreat.
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    13. -5
      10 November 2022 12: 45
      Quote: Vovk
      Negotiated, the Russian troops are calmly leaving Kherson, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not shoot at those who leave!

      Well, ask the clown what happened, why your Armed Forces of Ukraine do not dare to shoot at the Russian troops.
      1. +2
        10 November 2022 13: 01
        Quote: Tagan
        Well, ask the clown what happened, why your Armed Forces of Ukraine do not dare to shoot at the Russian troops.

        It is not yet known who is really the "clown" now ... Why don't the Armed Forces of Ukraine shoot at the "courageously retreating" troops of the Russian Federation? - Negotiated + Armed Forces of Ukraine simply still does not believe in their happiness + the Armed Forces of Ukraine think that this is another "cunning ambush plan" of the Russian troops.
        1. -1
          10 November 2022 13: 32
          Why don't they believe this after Kyiv-Kharkov - the grain deal - they achieve their goals.
    14. +4
      10 November 2022 12: 46
      The Russian army leaves Kherson and the entire right bank of the region

      Yesterday there was an article on the site, today comments have been disabled, the administration of the site is becoming more and more politicized every year and one gets the feeling that they are all members of the "Edros" party. Here, the members of the forum clearly expressed their position on this issue, almost unanimously, this has not been observed for a long time. What kind of dermocracy we have in the country, this is also on the site.
      1. +3
        10 November 2022 13: 11
        What's with the site administration?
        Do you understand why they do this?
        When I wrote many months ago - do not rejoice at the fact that those media that we do not like are closing and surviving, because it will be like in that quote (close in meaning) - "when they came for me, there was no one left of those who could help me! - everyone at that time was only accused of supporting the fifth column, and so on.
        And now we are wondering why comments are turned off, and why they are afraid to write openly about many things, ask questions ...
        - Yes, because we ourselves helped to come to this.
        1. +1
          10 November 2022 15: 43
          Of course, there is an understanding of what is happening, I also know very well about the capabilities of our special services, various departments of "K", etc., we will not list, that early idea of ​​​​the site developers "truth is born in a dispute" has lost its meaning, I read your comments and I know your position on everything. Well, the removal of comments and articles, of course, can be explained in other words, I will not name them.
    15. -2
      10 November 2022 12: 50
      According to representatives of the Kyiv regime, so far there is no evidence that Russian troops are retreating from the right bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region.....
      But they won’t be, the withdrawal of troops is carried out according to a certain plan, cover units, combat security units are working .... the withdrawal of troops is not as a result of the active actions of the enemy, but vice versa .... when trying to go over to the attack, they receive a worthy rebuff, roads are mined, ambushes are organized ... as such, the enemy does not have the opportunity to move freely forward, he only enters where we ourselves retreated from. Plus, he constantly runs into various surprises, so, frankly, he is a little afraid to go ahead.
    16. 0
      10 November 2022 12: 50
      Now events will develop in two ways, we need to get together, destroy bridges and clear the left bank. (Plan in case we have equipment, ammunition and capabilities left). If there are none left (and the prerequisites are visible), you need to move Ukraine away from the borders, sit in deep defense and destroy the economy of Krajina ..... Or Khasovyurt
    17. +2
      10 November 2022 12: 57
      Quote: Quote Lavrov
      Is there no way to ask for early elections of the president and deputies for the coming weekend?
      Only without your favorite "electronic" voting. I just really want to express admiration for the actions of the authorities and what they are doing.
      And at the same time publish a list of their male relatives (that way, up to and including nephews) with a mark on their military duty.

      I will answer your quote with a quote from a joke:
      Of course, he will eat something, but who will give him !!!

      bully
    18. +1
      10 November 2022 12: 59
      It seems that the holders of "foreign passports" and "relatives abroad" defeated the "homemade patriots" in the Russian government.
      1. 0
        10 November 2022 21: 03
        And there are those who do not have relatives, accounts and property abroad? Without a second citizenship, there may be someone.
    19. +1
      10 November 2022 13: 01
      We are withdrawing troops, bridges in Zaporozhye and Dnepropetrovsk, of course, no one is bombing, which means that the released forces will be delivered before ours, to another sector of the front, everything is brilliant as always.
      1. +1
        10 November 2022 13: 19
        To Donetsk and Lugansk. Then we regroup, manage to rebuild Marik and all together in Taganrog. Well, the "liberators" are moving forward, probably to the Crimean peninsula.
      2. 0
        10 November 2022 13: 37
        Just launch a voting ballot on the topic: on which sector of the front will the next regrouping be with the goal of ..... well, there is a large choice, substitute what you need yourself.
        I've already run tacos on a grain deal. and turned out to be right.
        Now I offer the following options:
        1. Zaporizhia along the reservoir in order to refill the seaside route even with fire
        2. Methodical knocking out of warehouses and air defense in the Kherson region and a throw across the Dnieper.
        3. Attack on the north of the LPR
        4. Attack on Donetsk.
        5. Strike in the Ugledar area and the dissection of troops into 2 parts + shelling of the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov
        I vote for 1 and tries the 2nd option. As the most productive in the long term.. This will actually turn Crimea into a besieged region. Other options will not give such noticeable success.
    20. 0
      10 November 2022 13: 04
      Does anyone have thoughtful thoughts on the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine "are about to blow up" and "the only guarantee it will not be blown up is to let the Armed Forces of Ukraine to fire a cannon shot at the hydroelectric power station."
      Taking into account the "current realities" from Maria Zakharova, I have such questions as how many HPPs will be given to Ukraine:
      1) A hydroelectric power station with an earthen embankment on the right bank will not be given away, and the embankment will be used as a springboard to contain the approaches to the construction of the dam itself.
      Of the minuses of this option, for the entire time of the NMD, not a single bridgehead on the enemy shore was retained by us, of the recent Oskol River.
      2) Silently we give away half of the hydroelectric dam.
      3) We are giving away the entire dam, an absurd option, but nothing can be done if, for example, Zelensky suddenly responds to the request of M. Zakharova and still gives a "written guarantee" of a horror story promoted by the General Staff of the Russian Federation and with surprise encountered in Ukraine, the version with the "undermining" of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station.

      Which option is the most possible?
      1. +2
        10 November 2022 13: 42
        3rd. Since we are clearly not going to attack, there is no use in bridgeheads. They won't even give us guarantees. Just knocked out by artillery. True, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not undermine it, this no longer makes sense. On the contrary, they will yell about the evil orcs who want to drown Kherson. Ours will most likely fade away. And the Armed Forces of Ukraine will get a good crossing for a further offensive.
        1. 0
          10 November 2022 14: 00
          Quote: Single-n
          True, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not undermine it, this no longer makes sense.

          Well, now what’s the point of flooding the banks in the rear, where there are no trenches, depots of ammunition, fuel and lubricants and other things that could somehow speed up the advance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or reduce their losses with the help of battles on the right bank?
          1. +1
            10 November 2022 14: 07
            Destruction of temporary crossings.
            But this is more of an excuse for the RF Armed Forces. Even if instead of the Dnieper there is a river of lava, it is quite possible to supply a group of 10-20 thousand people by air. Most likely, the MLRS and artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine gouged all field warehouses and supply points. Or they showed that they can easily do it.
            And the water after the explosion of the dam would have left in a few days maximum.
    21. -3
      10 November 2022 13: 17
      Quote: Vovk

      It is not yet known who is really the "clown" now ... Why don't the Armed Forces of Ukraine shoot at the "courageously retreating" troops of the Russian Federation? - Negotiated + Armed Forces of Ukraine simply still does not believe in their happiness + the Armed Forces of Ukraine think that this is another "cunning ambush plan" of the Russian troops.

      You and the soles of a Russian soldier are not worth procrastinating on this matter.
    22. +2
      10 November 2022 13: 38
      The exit from Kherson and the right bank of the Dnieper is a forced, conscious necessity dictated by circumstances. The operation of redeployment or organized retreat is one of the most difficult activities for military units. It is necessary to prepare barrier lines of defense, install minefields that block the passage of equipment to the enemy, select the most trained fighters in the barrier detachments, providing ammunition and equipment. Withdraw heavy equipment from the front line and evacuate it with minimal losses (if a decision is made to take out the equipment), transporting it to the left bank of the Dnieper. According to various sources, 3 airborne divisions are to be evacuated, plus attached artillery, air defense and several tank battalions. If the decision is made to leave light, abandoning the technique, then this will be an escape. By withdrawing troops, we do not get involved in a long confrontation in unfavorable conditions for ourselves, with very difficult opportunities for supplying the group, with development into a modern version of the Battle of Stalingrad. If during the Second World War it was justified to conduct bloody battles for Stalingrad, thereby preventing the German troops from breaking through to the oil of Baku, then maintaining a foothold on the right bank of the Dnieper today has no such strategic value.
    23. 0
      10 November 2022 15: 33
      A defeat no one expected. And something else was said about Kyiv. Perhaps soon Zaporozhye will become a bargaining chip.
    24. 0
      10 November 2022 20: 58
      The position of Shoigu and Surovikin was supported even by such determined military figures as the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov and businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin.

      Well, yes - military figures. And who among us can be called military figures - Shoigu and Gerasimov or what?
    25. -1
      12 November 2022 16: 35
      Do the military and politicians of the ZDRT (Stars and Stripes Democratic Republican Territories) have vision like mine, or what? Days passed - they noticed.

    "Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

    “Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"